Slavoj Zizek. On Belief and Otherness. 2002 1/6

[dragmio]

He saw thru Shrek wonderfully. It's pure modern hipocrisy. Like, it isn't important what you look like, but princess must get ugly to marry Shrek. Or what's worse, we're sooo politically correct, but the bad guy is soooo short. So, we can't ridicule ugly, but we can ridicule short?

[vulvatronic]

a respect for other when at war...god damn it! it means you don´t torture the enemy to death with most imaginative way and eat his/her eyeballs, &c! stupid question, mr B, and I DON`T agree with you on this, mr Z... there are certain rules of respect for OTHER everywhere...depending on situation...even with nazis, even at war...now this is Z at his wrst, just bullshitting, and you brainless fans can´t see your bloody hero´s just hitting air at the moment...

[ExMachine]

@vulvatronic - Zizek doesn't advocate torture. His point is that the other doesn't know where their own truth lies. So to respect the lie someone tells about themselves is to approach the situation in totally the wrong way. Listen to the glossing he gives to the point. Hatred, anger, can be progressive. If a black person hated those who viciously repressed them in segregationist america or apartheid south africa- and if that anger led to their challenging the situation and changing it...

[BehaviorModification]

"Tout comprendre, c´est tout pardonner." Yes, even the oppressors. All seeks equilibrium. Human behavior being no different. It's driven by desire, which is based upon a near infinite number of factors from cultural to genetic; all of which are then spurned along by moment-to-moment circumstance. This CAN be overridden if one is willing. Yet, to 'will' one has to 'care.' Only then can one even consider 'thinking' & be made aware of 'options.' & only then will ideas manifest into relevance.

[toucanchrist]

Radical academia.......that's one gem of an oxymoron!

[sharonvideo]

"for the old story to go on" YEAH MAN!!

[shakeyourdimsims]

to me part of the significance of this guy is that he speaks what very few people are willing to say. to accept what Zizek says here is to reject what is one of this epoch's central ethos. regardless of whether people agree i say he's got balls

[radicalantitheist]

9.00 minutes in for the best quote in the world

[feifeishuangyu]

"...the same old story is being told.

...it is to prevent us froming asking why not telling another story

we make fun of ourselves...we make fun of all the beliefs...while continuing to practice them

one should fight a certain attitude...the prohibition to firmly assert your position..."

[feifeishuangyu]

"...the same old story is being told.

...it is to prevent us froming asking why not telling another story

we make fun of ourselves...we make fun of all the beliefs...while continuing to practice them

one should fight a certain attitude...the prohibition to firmly assert your position..."

[feifeishuangyu]

"...the same old story is being told.

...it is to prevent us froming asking why not telling another story

we make fun of ourselves...we make fun of all the beliefs...while continuing to practice them

one should fight a certain attitude...the prohibition to firmly assert your position..."

[feifeishuangyu]

"...the same old story is being told.

...it is to prevent us froming asking why not telling another story

we make fun of ourselves...we make fun of all the beliefs...while continuing to practice them

one should fight a certain attitude...the prohibition to firmly assert your position..."

[feifeishuangyu]

Zizek is a brilliant thinker!

[feifeishuangyu]

Zizek is a brilliant thinker!

[boynamedblue]

interesting point of view, but i disagree with his rejection of qualifying an opinion.

[sicknessuntodeath]

At Aikigenius.

Why re-iterate that somebody is re-iterating somebody, surely thats just re-iterating yourself?

Again.

[sicknessuntodeath]

@aikigenius

Why re-iterate that somebody is re-iterating somebody, surely thats just re-iterating yourself?

[KoroOutbreak]

That flickering in the video is driving me nuts! What a terrible waste.

[thejoysofsound]

Yeah man - it's totally spazzing me out - I can't watch anymore. Mixed with his accent - harsh rolling R's and lisp - it's like an assault on the senses. I can't actually focus on what he's trying to say.

[28g34ajbsd]

Yes, but that's just a *small* fraction of his charm :)

[ZizekianRevolution]

i meant to give a negative thumbs up but i accidentally did otherwise:(

[aikigenius]

but what is the unvarying story behind shrek? and what more does zizek suggest than what marcuse proposed in his essay 'on tolerance'?

[0neironaut]

True Love... among many others

[dhyanabum]

Wow, deep.

[Egorend]

dear egsvideo:

this clip doesn't seem to be the beginning of the talk....?

[rebellionsucks]

Interesting that Zizek has the attitude he describes with regard his own beliefs. For example, he will say "I am a Marxist, a Communist" but he then backtracks, asserts the impossibility of the working class being the agent of radical social change.

But then, this is the only way for his political position to be ignored so that he may go on being a philosopher - he must deny that he is a Marxist, even as he says "I am a Marxist"

[Mariborchan]

I think there isn't an inconsistency here. He firmly states what he is, but doesn't want his views to be taken wrongly, so he points out what he doesn't believe in. he is a marxist, but wants to show he doesn't agree with one of marxist ideas working in our time. If he would use the evasive attitude he attacks here, he would never state that he is a marxist, but would only say "i agree with marxists in some point, [but I don't really have a political position]" or something like that.

[dantesh88]

But he is not really a Marxist, he is much more of an hegelian/lacanian and therefore on one level removed from Marxism - an indealist

[randylahey123]

Yes but Zizek has reinterpreted Hegelian concept of history and dialectics (in sublime object of ideology) through Lacan and rejects Hegel as a "idealist-monist" and says "in Hegel is the strongest affirmation yet of difference and contingency"(intro to sublime...) he even argues (paradoxically) that Hegel is the first post-Marxist!

[sweenith]

@randylahey123 But Marx was a Hegelian. So that makes Marx a post-Marxist. lol

[ExMachine]

@rebellionsucks - I haven't heard Zizek claim working class revolutionary agency is impossible. Only that - it isn't there today-; where is the massive militant working class movement that Zizek is denying? His point is that there isn't one today(decline of fordist organized labour etc), that's the problem.

Yet Zizek positing himself as a 'philosopher' is suspicious and does smack of a certain double-think. 'Let them read Hegel'. The problem of professional radicals.

[herma57]

Who decides Who is Other?

[richidpraah]

the other? maybe i should see this thing first..

[haliburton]

you do

[FuriousBataille]

Excellent. I hope this has to do with the book of the same name. That is the first Zizek I owned after finding it at a used bookstore.

[davius4321]

ANOTHER ZIZEK! EXCELLENT! Thanks a lot...