Which is the word of God - the Bible or the Qur'an?

[julio14335]

The koran is the source and defender of islam, does the bible defend christianity?

[quranevil]

The god of this age(satan) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

- 2 Cointhians 4:4

[MilagroVision]

Here's the answer to the title of the video.........The Book of Mormon.

[izlamiztruth]

islam is the best

[paramebolas]

@izlamiztruth NOT!! you neither know islam or christianity!!!

[izlamiztruth]

@paramebolas I DO .

[wolfpax22]

I don't particularly understand why the comment I made on this page critical of the Bible stands while those I made questioning Islam or both faiths have disappeared. I raised a perfectly valid answer to this question. "How about neither?" By reducing this debate to say that only the Bible or the Quran must be "The word of God" you commit what is called a false dichotomy. You put up two answers saying that one or the other must be correct while denying all other possibilities.

[melissakarim399]

the Quran without a doubt!

[Skelros]

As an atheist, so coming from a neutral position in this question, I say: The Kuran (german) makes more sense - not taking the general question of religion into account, that is.

[acceptjesus1]

@Skelros it's a question about who is really holy? Jesus, Bible, or Mohammad, Quran?

Jesus said, no marriage in heaven, divorce is sin, 1 wife, commanded us to be holy, do not commit adultery. Islam says, it's OK to commit adultery with your sex slave girls, divorce is OK, have sex for 3 days, then dump the girl, multiple wives OK, plenty of sex and alcohol in heaven, I presume in front of God's throne as heaven is His throne.

Now with all your intellect you still believe Quran is a holy book?

[TheFazproductions]

@acceptjesus1

yes... because your intellect is not in the right place

[wolfpax22]

@Skelros Yes I suppose anything produced by a single author or at least by a small number of authors would make more sense than a hodgepodge of works written over centuries or more slapped together by a bunch of old men centuries later, and then continually re-edited and re-translated by different people with different interpretations to push for the next 1700 years. But I could write my own piece of fantasy-fiction tonight and claim it came from God and start a religion about it.

[Skelros]

@wolfpax22

yup, i'll sign that. but that god will be cool and all shiny okee?

[HIMAZZZ1991]

MR Shabir Ally, ur my hero

[Raisonic]

Go to the dead sea scrolls article on wikipedia, scroll down to the Significance to the Canon of the Bible part, read the part starting with "According to The Oxford Companion to Archaeology:". If you think some fool on wikipedia wrote this, think again. The quote has a legitimate link attached.This confirms that changes were made to the Torah and thus the Bible as well.

Qur'an for the win!

[aalam0044]

jay smith is very convincing

[Hrvojecroatian]

Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him and forhim. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Colossians 1:15-18

[nofreedomofspeech]

The bible was written long before the koran. The only way the koran could influnce the bible would be through timetravel. Not likely I think... If there are similarities in the bible and the koran, no doubt the koran copied the bible.

[CEDELACR]

the true principles and moral standards that the christians follow came from the book of proverbs and the new testament. Christians are inspired by the new testament.

[tuber153]

And one more thing Mike 17h, what u said in your 1st sentance contradicts what u said in ur 3rd, u as a christian believe Jesus did not marry while he was on earth, well if he does come back a second time, then gets married, how is that a false teaching, and how is that diffrent to jesus saing get married once, and do u have a verse in the bible where jesus said marry only once? id like to read it thank you

[tuber153]

Solomon in the bible got married more than once, why not read ur bible and see how many times he got married, and another thing, don't misquote my scripture in my presence, where in the QUR'AN does it say 'In Quran, Muslims beleive that in the second coming of Jesus he will get married, Quote me the Sura and the Verse, and when you can't find it, shut your mouth and actually read the text instead of going on anti-Islam websites to get ur fallible knowledge.

[kamalabbas123]

many cristian say contradictiion in the quran,where are they.

[positron66]

Google for "70 contradictions in the Quran" and you will find a whole list about it.

[dreadedqb]

I am not a scholar but I was skimming through a few. Several are not. I am sure a scholar on Islam-Muslim or not- would agree.

[ljkuipo]

@kamalabbas123 Jesus said in Matthew5:17

Think not that I have come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets, that means it's fulfilled, Jesus did not say before he returns another prophet will rise up, he said to wait for him only, and nobody else, and he warned of false prophets.

Jesus said in; John4:22 salvation is of the JEWS. Mohamad was not Jewish.

Bible says no sex in heaven,Mohamad says lots of sex in heaven.

[acceptjesus1]

@kamalabbas123 Quran says man is made from clot, and also man is made from dust, a contradiction. Adam is first muslim, Abraham is first muslim, Mohamad is first muslim, contradiction.

Thou shall not kill, kill the infidel, contradiction.Do not commit adultery, it is permitted to have sex with your slave girls contradiction. Do not have idols, or symbols of idolatry, there is a pagan moon crescent on top of every mosque, contradiction. do not drink alcohol, wine drinking permitted in heaven,etc

[TheFazproductions]

@acceptjesus1 lol you're understanding is contradicting, but i guarantee you, that you never actually held the Quran and read where these verses are that you're speaking of.

[acceptjesus1]

Genesis 17:21 " But my covenant I will establish with Isaac " Genesis 21:12 “ And God said unto Abraham "..“ for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. ' Islam says that Ishmael was chosen instead of Isaac? Islam has a very serious problem. If Ishmael was the chosen one, then why are all the Bible stories about Isaac and Jacob; whose name, Allah changed to Israel. If Ishmael was the chosen, why is Allah for Israel instead of Ishmael? This proves that Isaac is the chosen as the scriptures say.

[kedmonton]

@kamalabbas123 We don't say the quran HAS contradictions, we say that it IS a contradiction. Written by one man over 23 years with zero witnesses. Whereas the bible has 500+ documented witnesses, 3000 years in the making, 40 authors, 66 books all in agreement.

By those facts alone we can discredit the Qu'ran.

If you dig deeper you will find many more problems with the Qu'ran as a whole.

[BeholderGuard]

@kedmonton

1: prove that the Qur'an has contradictions

2: The Bible has 66 Book? lol what about the 73 Books of Catholics? or the 75 of Syriacs? Think again

[Rahmat777]

Who tempted David?

(i) The Lord (2 Samuel 24:1)

(ii) Satan (IChronicles 21:1)

Whose the FIRSTBORN?

(i)Israel (Exodus 4:22)

(ii) Ephraim (Jeremiah 31:9)

In what year of King Asas reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?

(a) Twenty-sixth year (1 Kings 15:33 - 16:8).

(b) Thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

If both are true tell me how a man can invade 10 years after his death?

[soniq351]

sure i will look it up.

but still even koran calls Jesus faultless unlike mohamed.

another thing to to be faultless is to be God and thats what Jesus is.

[Aussieruler11]

and to rape babies sticking penisis between their legs is what muslim men like to get upto in their past time. and marry 6 ear old girls and raping them when they r 9 is all mohammed is good for.

[soniq351]

islam is a cult that promotes terror.

the evidence is alll around us every day there are reports of muslim terror.

[cinista2002]

Wow I'm impressed . You really are very stupid. well done keep it up. But u have a long way to go until u become as stupid as your parents lol.

[Aussieruler11]

yeah ure cult is impressive too. REVOLTINGLY IMPRESSIVE.

Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

'It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.'

[cinista2002]

Lol what the fukkk u on about u STUPID homo gay gimp cunt?

Now your just assuming i'm a muslim lol. hahaha dumb prick.

I'm going to contact youtube on your behalf.

I want to nominate you for being the dumbest wanka to ever leave a comment on youtube lol.

Stupid dumb fukkk.

[Aussieruler11]

why is that dumb?? you see thankyou for agreeing on their sik sik culture! that muslim man actually said that. thankyou for agreeing that is the dumbest fucking comment cause that means that mean that muslims are the dumbest fucking people lol.

[cinista2002]

i think u should read what u just typed.

Coz u would realise it doesn't even make any sense lol.

who is khomeini? He's not God!

It's like me saying jesus is evil because george bush said that jesus spoke to him and said it was alright to go to war lol.

So yes i still say u are very stupid. lol

[Aussieruler11]

ok then. explain this -

During Aishas period Muhammad used to fondle her in bath. When menstruating Aisha used to wash Muhammads head(Sahih Bukhari 1.6.298) you praise that shit. u say the quran is great. i see all u dikheads kneeling on the side of the road singing making weird noises.

[cinista2002]

Abrahams nephew, begat two sons by his own daughters while in a drunken stupor (Genesis 19:30-35). lol.

You probably didn't know that was in the bible did u lol.

[ryukenb2k]

Ugh disgusting im muslim sunni from london and you quoted from the minority branch of islam called shia's who contradict the qur'an and muhammad whom be peace, that khomeini is a deviant.peace to you and family.please ask me anything about islam

[gosillygirl]

your bible teaches that it is ok for daughters to have sex with fathers, and brothers with sisters and so on.

[Aussieruler11]

yes and where does it teach that towel head? it has versus in the quran that condone that but not the bible.

[mims2101]

@gosillygirl your a moron! where on earth does the bible say that!

[otheloze]

@gosillygirl hey gossip girl dont just make rubish comments because you want there is know where in the bible that supports such indecent act, i think we all should carefully take a good look at Muhammad life and how decent was he,is he really a man of moral standards, i live that for you all to answer

[XionComrade]

@gosillygirl It never said it was necessarily OK, but it does happen....Technically it would have had to to some extent, basically the entire human race is just a continual inbreed anyway, But I do know the event you are talking about, yeah that was pretty messed up...But it never said God condoned the act, just says it happened. Strange situation lol

[soniq351]

this not a compatition but to see the truth so i hope you will see it to type this in youtube.

How Lord Jesus Changed Radical Muslim Khalil's life - (Part 1/3)

[Rahmat777]

How about your clear up these contradictions? Since you so infactuated with contradictions yourself example both cant be right!

How old was Ahaziah when he began his rule?

(i) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26).

(ii) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).

Who killed Goliath?

(i) David (1 Samuel 17:23, 50).

(ii) Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)

[Rahmat777]

I dont want to a speak anymore to person who deliberatorily lives in denial, despite overwhelming evidence otherwise.

I'll leave without with this that if Moses and Jesus were alive today, they would be following the Quran & be followers of the final prophet, thats what we believe, without any inferiority, they were humble men like the prophet and they would free themselves for the service of the cause of Islam, the submission to Allah's will. Jesus would do exactly that in the second coming.

[soniq351]

you know the Bible is truth and from God as in the book of Job it tells us the earth is a sphere just as we know it is today.

however how can the koran be from God when it make such a huge and simple error saying the sun rests-dwells on mud???

do not be upset i have studied this topic before. peace be with you may the Lord show you the truth

[Rahmat777]

If you have had any knowledge of Arabic you would not embarras yourself like this, in the missionary does when they laughable objections about things they know nothing about in order to convince themselves that they have seen an error. The word Magrib refers to a time (ie. the time when day finishes and night finishwes) OR refers to a place (the west), they dont realise that, they think attack the Quran in its translation is the same as attacking in the Arabic, which ARE the actual words of God.

[Rahmat777]

(ie. the time when day finishes and night STARS)

I also notice you do not post references when it comes to the bible. You maybe able to fool the guilable type, but i verify what i have heard of others.

[soniq351]

you know exactly what im talking about however your pride gets in the way of the truth.

you did not answer my statement that the koran says the sun sits-dwells on mud.

this clearly shows the koran was made from man and not God

[soniq351]

now i will give you contradictions in the koran and all here may look this up and see the koran is not from God. how long is allahs day? 1,000 years 22:47, and 32:5 or 50,000 years- 70:4 ?????? was pharoah drowned or saved? he drowned 17:102-3, 28:40,and 43:55 he was saved- 10:90- 92. will all christians and jews go to hell? yes 3:85, and 5:72 no 2:62, and 5:69

[Rahmat777]

You are wasting your time with what christian apologist has written, most of the time from missionary websaites, they always bring references without substantiating what they say. they hope you will not verify into the matter, and fool yourself as they have fooled others.

[soniq351]

excuse me but all here can search what i have writen where as you have not shown how i have been wrong.

here is another question for you and all here i ask why is mohamed potrayed as the most holy person in the koran when mohamed admits he is not perfect.

YET in the koran we read Jesus is without fault eg maryam 19:19-21 we read "he said: i am only a messenger of the Lord, that i may bestow on thee a FAULTLESS SON: how can i have a son when no mortal man hath toached me....etc.

[Rahmat777]

"ere is another question for you and all here i ask why is mohamed potrayed as the most holy person in the koran"

Give me the exact reference from the Quran which says this? You are very quick in making these comments but not so quick in providing the evidence.

The Quran is in Arabic, to understand exactly what it says. The Arabic word mentioned here here is ZAKI, there are more than 99 attributes of Allah and zaki is not one of them. Muslims can name their children Zaki, so whats your point?

[soniq351]

also for those who want a reliable in debth history on the Bible with detailed information type this in youtube

How We Got Our Bible: New Testament; Chuck Missler Part1

[soniq351]

i may add aswell that this video is not reliable as the speaker(s)do not give full acounts and explainations of the Bible.

we also know that the koran was handed down verbaly aswell and passages in the koran contradict each other as i will further state

[soniq351]

problem with teachings in the koran is that moslems say mohamed was holy even though mohamed broke a promise and treaty with the quraish and killing some of them breaking his word or treaty.

[sayge01]

if the bible is so intact why was there a counsel at nicia to chose what books should be cannonized. Why does the KJV have less books then the Bible used by Catholics. The Qur'an only says that the Bible came from God but was corrupted over time to fit the desires of man. Islam respects the Bible and the Torah we just understand what happened to the book over time.

[soniq351]

no thats incorrect the catholics use the same books as other christians but they also use few more books that are considered by catholics as apocryphal and put there for refrence and teaching etc.

[soniq351]

its eazy islam came 600 years after christianity so the christian faith is the original and the Bible is the book of God.

[Rahmat777]

Thats an illogical arguement, Judaism & Hinduism predate Christianity, are their faiths more original and their books 100% the book of God? If not your premise is inconsistent. You need a better premise than that. Your scholars (who have looked into the matter from its earliet sources) tells the Bible is part the words of man and part word of God. Manuscript study have revealed to them scribes deliberatly inserting new things because they were offended by certain things they read in the bible.

[soniq351]

the bible texts have been past down very well infact when the 2000 year old dead sea scrolls were found it shows how old testament texts were past down nearly perfectly.

also bible prophecy has been perfect and more is to come from them.

also this video has hardly any research into christian texts.

another point is the koran was a copy from judeo and christian texts this can plainly be seen by the flow of the texts is missing in the koran.

[Rahmat777]

There is nothing in the bible worthy copying, There are too many mitakes, insertions, deletions and changes to even know what exactly was the original. The oldest manuscripts are copies of copies of copies of God knows how many copies. Original copies and the first of orignal are lost. After the discovery of manuscripts more ancient than the ones which the bibles were depending upon before 1900 According to the RSV preface, these defects were so MANY and so SERIOUS that it necessitated revision.

[Rahmat777]

"The number of deliberate alterations made in the interest of doctrine is DIFFICULT TO ASSESS." Metzger, Bruce and Ehrman, Bart D. The Text of the New Testament: Its Transmission, Corruption, and Restoration. p265. And more specifically, "In the technical parlance of textual criticism—which I retain for its significant ironies—these scribes corrupted their texts for theological reasons." Keeping up to date with the evolving doctrine of the time. This is from eminent scholars of Christianity.

[soniq351]

no thats incorrect the bible has been passed down correcty infact all historians know the christian texts are older then the koran.

and the koran uses some of the same prophets as the bible yet the bible was writen 600 years before the koran this shows the koran was copied from the bible.

even non christian writers before islam commented on christian teaching thus again confirming the original version.

[Rahmat777]

This is how silly you arguement is. Acc to your own logic the writers of the gospels, copied the writings of the Jews because it mentions their prophets.

The eminent scholars who know sources of the Bible better than you and studied the earliest sources & inside out, have come to the conclusion that the Bible was certainly corrupted, they accept that as fact. It is only the paid missionary who kid themselves and make their fans agree with them blindly because they know everyone cant be scholars

[Rahmat777]

There are so many verses which have been identified as later additions. Three very famous examples of later additions have been mentioned which are not found in the most reliable greek manuscrp are

The woman caught in adultery John 7:53-8:11

The ending of Mark, Mark 16:9-20

Johannine Comma 1 John 5:7

These newly discovered mms contained new bible verses that were not found in later bibles & verses that did not exist except in later mms, which proves they were not original. But INSERTED later.

[soniq351]

no your mixing up the books mathew mark luke and john and infact christianity and islam are branches of the judeo teaching though christianity is the full teaching. i have done some research into this a wile ago and on the koran aswell and i will go through my information and you can look it up yourself aswell

[justdoit4242]

Save yourself the two and half hour debate and go check out this video Don Piper Testimony (Heaven) this Christian man was clinically pronounced dead and he came back to like to tell about the after life...also his book is amazing.

[heavynaps]

i pretty much agree with paazoe. seriously, what is christendom to begi with? the dominion of the church? if so, what's so special about it? i mean, the church is a human organization, which means it has its flaws. Christianity, islam, hinduism, buddhism, all these faiths have different interpretations of the same thing (in my opinion). maybe you have to look pretty hard to see that, but in my opinion, don't look at the established tradition, the heirarchies, or the authorities. search yourself.

[zinjanthropas]

I had heard about this guy J. Smith, but i just dismissed him as just hot, just one of those people trying to make a name for themselves. The guy knows his stuff! He back himself not with just scholarly evidence but hard facts as well, impressive! We need people like him in the Christendom to set the record right. God bless you Jay.

[paazoe]

Time will show all facts. As Jesus said: "For there is nothing hidden, except that it should be made known; neither was anything made secret, but that it should come to light". Time will show everything. The truth is like an olive oil - it will flow out. There's no need to post such boring and time-wasting videos like this one.

[paazoe]

The REAL and the FIRST word of God are FACTS. Everything else (also Bible) is only a comment to the facts, which are hard to understand without it. Facts can not be interpreted. Facts are about to interprete people. God doesn't need to know our interpretation of reality. We need God's interpretation of reality, which He is giving to us by a FACTS from our lives.

[copacetic5]

Hebrews 12:1

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. 2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

[Joshua12777]

well this is a short vid

[DevilishhhhGuy]

The number of variant manuscripts is not indicative of a book being a revelation but indicative that "alteration" has occurred. The more the variants the less the credible the source. The Bible has not only "unknown" authors it based on a Paulian Authority which can never be corroborated. The BIble scrutiny can not be corroborated as the author are not known. Not only this but there is no credible proof how and who recorded the Injeel or EVanjeel during prophet Jesus (pbuh) lifetime.

[DevilishhhhGuy]

As I have stated we as muslim ahve a chronology of scribes and how they recorded the message, we have their seerah recorded there was no disagreement on their authority and knowledge. But there were also those who were very sincere and passed the message orally to others without recording and corroborating with sahabah or prophet Muhammad this leads to suspect and variations similar to how the Bible of Xtians was compiled.

[DevilishhhhGuy]

Remember it was an oral recitation Iqra a proclaimation "recorded" by the close companions. But WHAT of those who did not RECORD but translated the message orally to friends and family until several years after the prohet began recording their own oral interpretation of the Qu'ran without discussing with the Sahabah who ahve written and scrutinised the qu'ran in the presence of the prophet Muhammad (SAW).

[DevilishhhhGuy]

Therefore the Qur'an is the original manuscript, everything else was forbidden because it would therefore lead to individuals referring to the methodology of recording verses and say it has been transalted incorrectly. But what is shorthand and nown to the Sahabah wa snot known to you. The sahabah had also "memorises" the Qur'an during the LIFE time of the prophet Muhammad and were absolute authority.

[DevilishhhhGuy]

There are many variations of Arabic.

Qur'anic Arabic was orally revealed to Muhammad conveyed in an Arabic that not mnay Arabic could actually match, discuss in, debate in. Qur'anic Arabic was recorded by scribes who had their own arabic. If you give a speech would you not record in shorthand, diagramatic and in a manner you would understand best as a scribe. Therefore scripts that COULD NOT BE CORROBORATED were destroyed as they authors did not deem to be authentic.

[DevilishhhhGuy]

Look at how Qur'anic scriptures were scrutinised??? Unlike the BIble authors the Quran'ic scribes were Sahabah actual followers who sat and scrutinised what they had recorded until they were in agreement. ?

[DevilishhhhGuy]

If you understand this you will understand that this is dangerous. This would have left the Qu'ran in the same fate as the Injeel or EVanjeel in english/greek - as this would therefore become the ORAL INTERPRETATION of revelation that did not DIRECTLY COME FROM THE PROPHET BUT hear say or the watered down version.

[DevilishhhhGuy]

Uthman ibn Afwan (pbuh) did not order the destruction of manuscripts on his own whim but with the consultation of the SCRIBES - scrutinising the verses.

[thinktwicex2]

We should not look to the past but look to the futher ---->We must recyle

[almao2006]

Mr Smith are asking for The first script of the Quran. Mr Shabir hat forgotten to say, that Saiduna Outmann maked a Decision what was GENIUS CAPER, which we believe, that was not his Decision but Allahs Decision. Then He was one of the Vier quite-led by Allah.

After making 10 Copys of the collected Quran, he burnt the Original Quran. I m asking why???? I m waiting for you answer...

[almao2006]

First Should we call you "Christian" or "Paulistian".

A religion who said that the africans are animals!!cus they have no souls. The indians are not. This was the cause of the import of african nach Amerika.

Where this ignorance come from????

[wwwhardknocks]

All religious books have been subjected to natural & un-natural corruptions & edits and all religious books are full of both truth & lies. When the truth is revealed, Perhaps what some did not believe about God will have a far greater reward than what others did believe about God. God is the God of truth & without injustice common sense.

[almao2006]

There is only one Truth. The question who have the Truth?

Let your mind work, This is your job to find it.

For me is the Quran the Truth

[DarkMatter911]

Muslims don't hate Christians, we feel sorry 4 you, we don't want you to enter hell by worshiping a man who never claimed to be god. Muslims don't hate jay smith for his "solid archaeological and empirical evidence" (lol by the way)we dislike the way he tries to deceive you! And by the way Arabs are not the only Muslims, there are more non-arab Muslims.

[DarkMatter911]

shabir ally in my opinion easily wins this debate through academic intelligence and logic.

spear223: the quran says the torah and injil were revelations from god and the final revelation of god the quran will be protected by god himself. u seem to be confused the quran does say that they contain genuine revalations but also man-altered and added verses, the quran is to be used as a criterion to judge which is revalation and which is not.

[anytwat]

the queeran is a silly old comic book, you just don't get it do you, you're not actually supposed to believe it ?!!

[aviles7]

Now I know why muslims attack Jay Smith. The man backs up his faith with ROCK SOLID archeology,history and historians with empecable and untarnished reputations. The truth always hurts those who hide from it. Haleluyah!! My GOD YAHWEH have mercy and help bring the gospels to all arab people so they too can be saved in your great day..

[Shakhnozah]

muslims didn't say more than jay does not use the logic, a man who backs up with a rock solid that doesn't have a brain neither a proof, fals history, more than that you are right when you say truth hurts who hide from it, and you forgot that it appears to those who seak it, Alhamdu li'Allah who made from us submitters to his will. arab =not muslim

[spear223]

the Quran says the Torah, Bible, and Quran are all the word of God. It also says Allah's word can't be changed, ever. But Muslims claim the Bible/Torah was changed by the council of Nicea (which, the Quran says is impossible, Allah's words can't be changed), so they're not allowed to read the Torah/Bible, even though it's the word of God, that has been changed, which the Quran says isn't able to be changed. Not logical? Darn right it's not logical!

[haniffali]

i met shabir ally and he is a very humble person and he always has good arguments

[mustafagtgt]

Shabir Ally all ways wins the debate. Its fantastic to hear how the Christian's humiliate them self

[aviles7]

Why your own quran says to listen to those who hold the gospels dear. HA!! there you go! Listen to christians & not to some dirty god like allah..

[Shakhnozah]

do not lie to yourself neither to your future children, quran sais talk to them good and nicely so they know the religion of god and you are astray understanding it, bring the verse so i explain it to you honey

[edammade]

I found it funny when Jay was asking which example of a abbragated Bible verse he qouted.

[edammade]

How can you say Jay won??? He opened his speach saying the Bible was written by over 44 men over 1500 years. How can anyone say this with a straight face?

Jay just rambles on with a hothead about his own misunderstandings and then Shabir corrects him with academic excellence.

[yahya2006]

I find it Ironic that all the Christians say Jay won this debate when Jay himself says he lost the first two debates to Shabir.

[fuckinggodlike]

mohammed and jesus and that are pretty good at what they done and that you cant deny this but cristiano ronaldo is the true chosen one. UNITED

[usernamesarehard]

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[dondagger99]

What a silly waste of human intelect. I suppose the only cool thing is that for a change the two sides are not ruining our world with violence.

[MBI3030]

I really think Muslims do not want to deal with the real problems about the history of their prophet. Jay won this debate hands down...

[aviles7]

Amen!! That's why they hate us!!

[Shakhnozah]

you hate yourself, cuz you don't even search for the truth and when you see it you close your eyes on it and you change it to the lie, and try to imagine that the lie is the truth, but you will get whatever you've done for your soul

[TKCwesker]

Jay wins!

[ninjayrs]

lol i have seen the whole video and to be honest i think the muslim person owned the the chrisian please dont be stubborn and be open minded when u watch this video and watch who wins with an open mind not stubborn becuase there was once a wise man who said "everytime i talk to an open minded and wise person i beat him, and everytime i talk to a close minded person and stubborn he beats me" thanks hope u find this video helpful because i did

[LothairLorraine]

Jay kicked ass.

[LothairLorraine]

All the Muslim did was talk about the Bible! I thought he was a Muslim. Looks like he was just a stealth Christian.

[RealManArab]

may God guide christians

In every debate between Islam and Christianity

Islam wins

coz God says

Nay, We hurl the Truth against falsehood, and it knocks out its brain, and behold, falsehood doth perish! Ah! woe be to you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to Us). (21:18)

[UrIgnoranceIsShowing]

Not! Solid win for Jay Smith - Great Job!

[marocnoord]

Good Very good let me learn more of my faith islam and more of the bible this is how we should act

[yahya2006]

Masha Allah, Shabir Ally put jay to shame

[paagalwalla]

WOW! Jay really won that debate...great Job JAY!

[Sevincle]

Solid win for Jay Smith. Bravo Jay!

[davidbpearson2]

Solid win for Shabir Ally.

[hatsuharu1988]

Why is education still so limited nowadays?

In case you dont get what I mean, the fact that one believes in god comes from a very limited knowledge of the world, in after all the animals in the world lived near Noah's house.

[hatsuharu1988]

I dont think I need to elaborate, unless the one with doubts is retarded or religious (which is almost the same thing).

[carlosox]

Wise men discuss, fools argue. Do we have a bunch of wise men or fools here? The answer is obvious. There are more things common among the major religions of the world than there are disagreements. Yet all the focus is on these insignificant differences. I rest my case.

[a3rabi]

fools don't argue fools think they are always right, rest there case even if they didn't, and walk off.. an argument can be a very good source of logic. that's why debate is a very useful tool for change, decision making, and understanding.