I know you mean well, but I have to disagree with the message of your video. Whether something "matters" or not is wholly subjective. We only care about things that we have evolved to care about, there is no standard off of which we can base a statement that says "scientific discovery is more important than feeding and reproducing". It's completely arbitrary. A species of alien more intelligent than us may very well view us how you view other species. They may think our primal curiosity is cute.
Information resides in the relationship between the interpreter and the interpreted. Meaning resides only with the interpreter, as information needs to be processed before any meaning can be attributed to it. So my answer would be no, there's no meaning intrinsic to the universe when all interpreting entities are left out.
Also, it's kinda arrogant to proclaim that we're the only species who cares when there could be other life out there that also cares about knowing about the universe.
The entire universe would -by definition- be meaningless without us, for it is us, intelligent, emotional observers, that give meaning to things. The world without us would be like a play without an audience; utterly pointless. And yes, humanity is deeply flawed, but we can and should use science & technology to improve ourselves, transcend biology, and realize our full potential (which may very well be infinite and 'godlike').
Earth never meant anything, with or without us, Earth doesn't have any importance in the universe, if it Earth would vanish one day, or if we vanish one day, the universe wouldn't even notice.
@kyleisreallycool I beg to differ, even if humans hadden risen to hegemony on Earth as its dominant species some other species would have, and in turn they would have had to face all the challenges of civilization adolescence, then probably some shmuck of that species of have the same sense of worthlessness as you .... but all in all the I believe in the potential of humanity , all we are is but a stepping stone to what we can be ....
And we can save the planet from the meteor in the near future. I like people, and I am prop people. Anti-humanist view our potential say "Meh, fuck it, it is too hard". They see our potential, yet only think we can do negative net gain to it, when that is demonstrably wrong.
I would argue that considering we are but a spec that will wink out one day, and not be remembered, does the question really even matter? Existence matters because we are here, but we are only here for an infinitesimally small period of time. So existence I guess only very briefly matters. I don't even know where I'm going with this :P
"Meaning" is itself a human concept, so no without humans nothing has "meaning". But that doesn't mean "meaning" is important. It's just important to us. :-)
I think I can generally agree with that, the only scale of measurement we can apply to the world is our scale or actually that being taken a step further, the only way I can see the world is my way of seeing at.
That is not resulting in a deadlock or in stagnation, it just reveals some interesting truth:
Things only mean something if they mean something to me/you/us, and there is no other objective standart.
@Nederdien There ya go. :-) Likewise wondering about things beyond just eating and reproduction seems lofty because it is important to us. But a fish or a duck or a mushroom or a bacterium has as much right to be here as I do and outside of the human perspective, isn't necessarily less important. It's interesting how we project our values onto reality as if they were intrinsic values. They aren't intrinsic to anything but us. ;-) I feel incredibly lucky to be here and leave it at that. :-)
Don't always agree with you, but you're right on here. We can be stupid, fact remains the most complex matter in the known universe rests in our skulls.
"Environmentalism" is a bit of a fallacy, actually.
History has shown time and again that, no matter how much the environment changes, life can always find a way to adapt itself to the new and changing conditions, even if former life gets left behind.
Humanity can't "save the environment". They can only try to save themselves.
@SpotxSpot Yes, life adapts to changing environmental conditions, but I am concerned with maintaining the environmental conditions that suit humans. We need to do this until we can terraform other planets/gain the ability to control the climate. I am concerned with the survival of humans and everything humans need to survive.
It boggles my mind how videos like annoying orange or fred get millions of views while yours get a few thousand. So well put and thought provocative 5/5
I know you mean well, but I have to disagree with the message of your video. Whether something "matters" or not is wholly subjective. We only care about things that we have evolved to care about, there is no standard off of which we can base a statement that says "scientific discovery is more important than feeding and reproducing". It's completely arbitrary. A species of alien more intelligent than us may very well view us how you view other species. They may think our primal curiosity is cute.
frankmademedoit 2 months ago
Short answer: Yes.
ValugaTheLord 4 months ago
subscribed; i look forward to your future videos!
miretchin 6 months ago
The only species on the planet that can question, dominated by people that don't.
miretchin 6 months ago
wOw ur a very smart person i love all ur vidds :D
calmorangutan93 6 months ago
Er. Really Human centric :p
AtheistYeti 7 months ago
Information resides in the relationship between the interpreter and the interpreted. Meaning resides only with the interpreter, as information needs to be processed before any meaning can be attributed to it. So my answer would be no, there's no meaning intrinsic to the universe when all interpreting entities are left out.
Also, it's kinda arrogant to proclaim that we're the only species who cares when there could be other life out there that also cares about knowing about the universe.
FHomeBrew 7 months ago
WE are a way for the universe to know itself .....
Technologeek92 7 months ago
The entire universe would -by definition- be meaningless without us, for it is us, intelligent, emotional observers, that give meaning to things. The world without us would be like a play without an audience; utterly pointless. And yes, humanity is deeply flawed, but we can and should use science & technology to improve ourselves, transcend biology, and realize our full potential (which may very well be infinite and 'godlike').
Parapon3ra 8 months ago
Earth never meant anything, with or without us, Earth doesn't have any importance in the universe, if it Earth would vanish one day, or if we vanish one day, the universe wouldn't even notice.
Shadowmov3r 8 months ago 2
the world would be better off without human filth.
kyleisreallycool 9 months ago 3
@kyleisreallycool Then why don't you lead by example and kill yourself, asshole?
Parapon3ra 8 months ago
@kyleisreallycool I beg to differ, even if humans hadden risen to hegemony on Earth as its dominant species some other species would have, and in turn they would have had to face all the challenges of civilization adolescence, then probably some shmuck of that species of have the same sense of worthlessness as you .... but all in all the I believe in the potential of humanity , all we are is but a stepping stone to what we can be ....
Technologeek92 7 months ago
No, it doesn't.
BlazeTheMovieFan 9 months ago
And we can save the planet from the meteor in the near future. I like people, and I am prop people. Anti-humanist view our potential say "Meh, fuck it, it is too hard". They see our potential, yet only think we can do negative net gain to it, when that is demonstrably wrong.
joshrocks11 9 months ago
transcribed "the fact is no other species cares"
Well no species you've heard of, which indicates a lack of research and knowledge
But hay why let stuff like that get in the way of a vid
RevDevilin 9 months ago
I've always said that once you get rid of all the people, all of the world's problems just go away.
squirreljester2 9 months ago
Does the World mean anything without us?
No continuousness - no one to assign value to stuff.
The more advanced a culture becomes the more value is assigned to more things.
jesokingcryst 9 months ago
Earth would be far better off without us. We're the only species earth developed that can potentially destroy it.
sphinxpress 9 months ago
without us, things would just BE, no need for any discovering, The universe can go on just fine without us. But yeah, we;re pretty fukin amazing:)
uprockbiddy 9 months ago
Without Christian Weston Chandler DEFINITELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
onoratodanny 9 months ago
first question, does it mean anything WITH us?
neomp5 9 months ago
@neomp5 I agree, human life is about as important as a condom to a pope. A modern pope that is, not the orgie doing popes pre 16th century/
DarkProject 9 months ago
I would argue that considering we are but a spec that will wink out one day, and not be remembered, does the question really even matter? Existence matters because we are here, but we are only here for an infinitesimally small period of time. So existence I guess only very briefly matters. I don't even know where I'm going with this :P
Swidhelm 9 months ago
Never thought about it like this. But is it the same concept with time?
Bigkiller488 9 months ago
"Meaning" is itself a human concept, so no without humans nothing has "meaning". But that doesn't mean "meaning" is important. It's just important to us. :-)
PlasteredDragon 9 months ago 19
@PlasteredDragon well said!
niekvdbogert 9 months ago
@PlasteredDragon Spot on there
julianwhitee 9 months ago
I think I can generally agree with that, the only scale of measurement we can apply to the world is our scale or actually that being taken a step further, the only way I can see the world is my way of seeing at.
That is not resulting in a deadlock or in stagnation, it just reveals some interesting truth:
Things only mean something if they mean something to me/you/us, and there is no other objective standart.
Nederdien 9 months ago
@Nederdien There ya go. :-) Likewise wondering about things beyond just eating and reproduction seems lofty because it is important to us. But a fish or a duck or a mushroom or a bacterium has as much right to be here as I do and outside of the human perspective, isn't necessarily less important. It's interesting how we project our values onto reality as if they were intrinsic values. They aren't intrinsic to anything but us. ;-) I feel incredibly lucky to be here and leave it at that. :-)
PlasteredDragon 9 months ago
We give every thing meaning like we give our lives meaning we exist we should make the most of said existence.
MoMember88 9 months ago
Don't always agree with you, but you're right on here. We can be stupid, fact remains the most complex matter in the known universe rests in our skulls.
andid 9 months ago
This is a great counter argument against people who think the world would be better off without humans.
ZigTheHunter 9 months ago
"Environmentalism" is a bit of a fallacy, actually.
History has shown time and again that, no matter how much the environment changes, life can always find a way to adapt itself to the new and changing conditions, even if former life gets left behind.
Humanity can't "save the environment". They can only try to save themselves.
SpotxSpot 9 months ago
@SpotxSpot Yes, life adapts to changing environmental conditions, but I am concerned with maintaining the environmental conditions that suit humans. We need to do this until we can terraform other planets/gain the ability to control the climate. I am concerned with the survival of humans and everything humans need to survive.
pgdevil 9 months ago
Sense when does it have to mean anything at all?
NetraAmorosi 9 months ago
I am one of your biggest critics, but this is a damn good video here. This video shows exactly why you SHOULD be an environmentalist.
pgdevil 9 months ago 2
@pgdevil
I dont see how that applies.
AssholePatrol 9 months ago
@AssholePatrol It applies because at this point in time, there can be no humans without the Earth.
pgdevil 9 months ago
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pgdevil 9 months ago
It boggles my mind how videos like annoying orange or fred get millions of views while yours get a few thousand. So well put and thought provocative 5/5
cloudsat7326 9 months ago 20
@cloudsat7326 Couldn't have said it better myself
Connnacht 9 months ago