"Why can't God just forgive sin?" Muslim-Christian discussion

[Underdogpiano]

Hell is right here on earth, why are we discussing things that is said in a book that is written by humans ages ago, and which proves itself it is incorrect. People are to busy discussing stupid stuff instead of doing something that actually would help the world.

[Eian117]

@Underdogpiano They dicuss these things because they know that there's more to life than what science tells us. The book known as the the Bible is historically and scientifically accurate. Just like how you say that the Bible was written by man.. So are the assumptions of scientist. Science is a product ( guess) of man . So if what's true for you is true for you and what's true for me is true for me, what if my thruth says yours is a lie, is it still true?

[Underdogpiano]

@Eian117

It isn't historically nor scientific accurate i don't know where you get these idea's from?

Tell me what proofs there is an intervention from the Christian God on this earth?

Proof me that Jesus really did cure people.

Tell me why aren't there any people now, who do miracles like Moses or Jesus?

And please don't come up with these fake healers/imposters, why do none of them cure people with no hands or no arms? Tell me about Adam and Eve if that's scientifically accurate..

[Eian117]

@Underdogpiano From sicence. Idk where you're getting the idea that science doesn't provide solid evdience to back up God. And when it comes to those people who "heal" people on tv.. You're right it is fake. It saddens me to see that but the devil will try to make God look bad. Think about it. If God isn't real then why does the world hate Him?

[Underdogpiano]

@Eian117

People hate God because people say that God is all powerful when in fact people are still being murdered, tortured, raped etc. So where is God there? Is it a God who just watch how we are suffering in this world? If it is that God, which he is if he exist, i don't want anything to do with it. If i can give you food in an instance but instead i watch you starve to death would you still like me? But tell me the evidence you have for God.

[MrBigboss20011]

@ceeker248 1 Cor wrote by saint Paul ,Jesus Christ never said such a thing , you Christians Following Paul not Jesus

[akidwaimd]

If Jesus paid the price for our sins, then where is God's forgiveness. If you borrowed $1,000 and I told you that I have forgiven you the debt you owe me, then I have forgiven you. Then do I have the right to ask for your rich uncle's cell phone number or email because I need my $1,000 back????? I just forgave you the debt you owe me. If jesus paid our debts (sins), then God does not need to forgive that debt (sin)? If Jesus paid your $1,000 debt off, then how much do you still owe me? $0.00

[ceeker248]

@akidwaimd God's forgiveness is in the fact that He was under no obligation to pay the price, how much the price was and who paid it is meaningless to the person in debt.

[ceeker248]

@akidwaimd On the other Muhammad has not informed us how in Islam God's infinity perfect attribute of al adl Justice is satisfied, which only can mean it has never been satisfied according to Islam which only can mean the wrath of God still abides on every Sinner. Al Adl has to be just a equally perfect as Ar Rahma or God is not perfect.

[MrBigboss20011]

God died for our sin ? what a stupid idea

[ceeker248]

@MrBigboss20011 1 Cor 1: 18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, “I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE.” 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

[demoskunk]

God created a place for us to suffer for eternity. He let the snake into the Garden. He knew Man would disobey, and his punishment is unjust. God could have just forgiven Adam and Eve. But no, he waited 4,000 years to send himself to Earth to sacrifice himself to himself, so that then he could forgive us?? No one can take your sins onto their shoulders. It's immoral. Jesus was a scapegoat. The story makes no logical sense.

[focusongiving1]

Babythatbody is actually me, I did not realize that I was in the incorrect acct, when I posted..Hey Man peace be unto you, It also states in the good book, do not judge lets he be judge..here you are saying that I am not a good Christian by whose standards not God but yours obviously..It also states in the Good book, in all thy getting get an understanding.. If God is everywhere and always present, then is it safe to say that everyone is holy..I Praise and do my best to embody Christ principles.

[Dreameatertv]

can i come to austrlia :) so many hotties xD

[JonAllenCWBAHSTNU]

Takes a lot of Faith to do what you are doing, and you shouldn't yell so much when one person is very interested in talking to you and is sincere, take time to stop what you are doing to talk to him, also you should listen to what they are saying to you before you respond, you seem to have a great heart for evangelism, Great Job, and I thought you explained justice well, I felt as if you maybe should have answered his questions better instead of shouting the generic stuff tho. Ur Great! -Jon

[PyramidNeoMi]

all die, but he rises again,

he had to die, and to prove to be, a true son of God, was resurrected,

He did not die because of those who loved him, but because of those who wanted to be like him, jealousy.

[sergiuliano]

Jesus died for givin us a forgiveness EXAMPLE, to show us how shall we act when someone is doing bad things to us. He could pass this easyly , but he did the supreme sacrifice for make us follow his steps and model. He put our saving higher that his own life ...

[Rudde47]

You'r both crazy!

[isaacisgud]

uhm why questioning?????

[babythatbody]

Is it God that can't forget sin or man? If God is perfect and he made us in his image, in Genesis, how can we be sinful? Also if Jesus came to save us from our sin, why would he say we will do greater works than him. We should not idolized Jesus, he came so we can follow his principles. This is the main reason why people in Churches blindly follow their leaders because they really don't understand how to embody his principles. If you want to be like Christ read "A Course in Miracles"

[sukruoosten]

@babythatbody i dotn think you are a good Christian then

because jezus will bee the EXECUTIONER END JUDGER

only way to god

praise the son so that the son may praise the father

which puts jezus just only 1 step lower then god

we Christians need to worship god end Jesus

dont know where you get the idea of not praising THE CHRIST

how is part of god, 1 of his 7 souls

[Maykhana]

i wish i was there cos this muslim brother he has done good but still.... the time in this world and in the next aren't the same for example. 1 day in the next world could be as much as 50 million years as in to our time

[openairevangelism]

Good job young man!!!

[jeff61177]

I have a feeling five minutes in hell would be pretty horrible.

[Operation513]

@jeff61177 It would be. But nothing in comparison to eternity in Hell.

[topbluffa1]

@Operation513

good thing there is no such thing then.