@sutonchef What don't you get? I believe in Jesus & his teachings & I also believe that there is only ONE god and the Jesus is his messenger not son. God is not a man.
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@SirMuslim786 What ???? Br don't misquote Luke 19,the verse u r talking about is OUT OF CONTEXT.read Luke 19 starting from verse 11 to get the whole Context.In Luke 19 Jesus is talking about a nobleman who gave 10 pound's to each of his slave to do business,one of his slave did not invested the money given to him,because he was scared that the nobleman will kill him if he lost the money in business.this Parable is called Parable of the ten pounds.. Jesus never promoted terrorism
Obiosly he is not from God, The god of Abraham, because he ordered killings and beheadings.-while jesus had given his life to mankind and never had took advantage of women and children as his sexslaves,-From abrahan, isaac, moses, david, Isaah, john the baptist are one of the real prophets of God of the most hIgh Jehovah, adonai YHWH,--Since they follow the 10 momandmants of God, and does not consent plogamy at all--for God hated who does polygamy, phidopilia, Idoletry, murder, -What else ???
All about Muhammad (the founder of Islam, the supreme example for Muslims).
PLEASE: All Christians and Muslims (who are ignorant of their Religion and say Islam is peace) please 'copy and paste', THE WHOLE OF THE ABOVE (two lines) - on youtube address bar - NOT AGAINST CHRISTIAN RELIGION TO WATCH THIS VIDEO, educational I found.
IN THE END ISLAM WILL FALL - Please spread the truth about MUHAMMAD
I am a Christian! All I can say that Jesus is who he says he is! Either that or he is a Lier! And even muslims know he is not a lier. We need to stop all of this talk if he is God or if he is not God and just go tot he Bible and read who he is!
@TheSaundersroadoxo they will be deceived by not letting them enter heaven. and these people you mentioned it was there choice to Apostate and no one loses but them, and in fact Islam is for those people with and open mind, not those you view things from one angle only, and for your information we Muslims are ordered to be logical thinkers read "Thus clearly do We spell out these messages unto people who use their reason." [30:28] and [39:42] so don't get Islam mixed up with Muslims
@ManInControI if Islam is evil and Rancid why are more people accepting it more then other Religion If Islam is Evil why would we be commanded to give charity why would Evil command it's followers to feed the poor to be good to the orphans, tell me if Islam is evil why does it tell us to Respect and take care of our old parents while yours are in old age homes why would Islam Tell use to stay away from the evil your society enjoys, my friend redefine Evil for your self
@muslim1ahmed More people are not accepting Islam than any other religion that is a myth, unless you have proof to the contrary.
Islam is evil because it condones murder theft lies and rape in the name of God.Islam is evil because it denies the truth that Jesus was the son of God who died on the cross us. Islam is evil because it worships a false idol and followers the teachings of a murderer, thief and paedophile.
@muslim1ahmed first of all, atheism is fastest growing Ideology.Secondly if Islam is growing very fast,it is just following the prophecy of revelation."The beast and his mark".Those who submit to the beast and his deceiver will perish.Yeshua already predicted false prophets and Misleaders and about prophets who come in his name.Thirdly if Islam is accepted in millions by lost sheep,it still doesn't justify its authenticity.Fourthly know a man by his fruit - look at muhammed.
@MrTheCorrupter What proof is there that Atheism is the fastest growing Ideology. I can easy bring proof that Islam is in fact a growing religion. If you read the bible Jesus predicted (prophesied) that their will be a prophet to come after him and their is no doubt about this. Prophet Muhammad Did not only bring light to his people but those after him. your short comings should not be our lose if you can't understand what Islam truly means
@muslim1ahmed Doesnt matter if we have shortcomings!! we dont care what you believe but feel tingly inside when some Arab bedouin takes up the name Yeshua and plagiarize Jewish sources - albeit imperfectly.Sorry mate Yeshua never predicted the arrival of any prophet, he was the son of god who came to end the prophetic line.Read the parable Mark 12:2 addressing this issue.Secondly, the predictions you are talking about is discussed in detail by Sam Shamoun - find it on utube.Its the holy spirit.
@MrTheCorrupter It does matter if there is short comings because our salvation is on the line, I would not follow falsehood god Clearly mad the truth easy to find for those who strive towards it Read the bible (Luke 11:9) God mad the true path clear from falsehood. and yet you people question it like you have authority to define what truth is our not Let the books speak from them self's Allah says in 4:82 if the book was from other then from god we would have found contradiction. . . .
@muslim1ahmed The verse you quoted says "Ask and you shall seek".Salvation is only in Yeshua Messihah.Let the bible speak for itself::lets see if Islamic Isa and Yeshua are one;John8:58:before Abraham was I am.John10:30 I(jesus) and the father(yahweh) are one.John 14:9 He who has seen me has seen the father.john5:19 whatever the father does the son also does.John14:13 I (Jesus) will do whatever you ask in my(Jesus) name,john 8:54My father(God) will glorify me(Jesus).Want me to quote more?
@MrTheCorrupter Salvation is with God not The messenger. John 14:28 "for the Father is greater than I" .John 5:37 "And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form," John 8: 29" The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always DO WHAT PLEASES HIM." John 8 :26 " But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world." John 17:1 Jesus looks towards the heavens and prayed (to who)
@muslim1ahmed Part 1 : The answer is in your question.This is called the idea of trinity.Jesus meant "No one has seen Gods true form in all its glory".Jesus was again praying to a higher self that sent him,what the trinity refers to as Father(Yahweh).PROOF : Genesis 19:27 the lord stood before Abraham(So a mere mortal saw god in a human form). Genesis 32:22-32 Jacob wrestles with the lord(again the same case).So you cant possibly deduce that jesus meant no one has seen god(in its literal sense)
@MrTheCorrupter and another question. if Jesus is god doesn't that mean god died ? and if only the body of Christ died doesn't that mean the son is no eternal and there for can not be god.
@muslim1ahmed Part 2 :Genesis 11:7 let us go down and confuse their language.Who is he that stood with god and god is speaking to? - Correlate this with john8:58 (Jesus) speaks Before Abraham was,I am.John 5:21 The son gives life to whom so ever he pleases.Who can give life other than god?who can do what god does,other than god, who can be before Abraham?who can defeat death?who was standing with god in the beginning of time?Hope I addressed your queries and know a prophet by his fruit(math7:16)
@MrTheCorrupter one no were in the bible did Jesus explicitly claim to be god nor did he hind any thing. the verses you claim to proof your point can be interpreted in many ways. but for some you just simply misunderstanding it from your own bible for instance john 5:21 "the son gives life to whom so ever he pleases" the answer is in the verses before it read 19" “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing"
@muslim1ahmed I can do nothing by himself,but the son can do whatever the father does.So,is it mutually contradictory?NO.The son and the father are one.That was my whole point.One can only understand the bible if you read through OT prophecy -relate it with NT prophecy,from A toZ.Matt 13:10-11 Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.”(nothing explicit)
@MrTheCorrupter we can go on and on with this but we will get no where. so we need to be open minded and not depend on faith alone. and judge with logic, i have a question The Trinity Doctrine stats that the father is not the son and the son is not the holy ghost but all three are one right. and all three are co-equal and co-eternal. so how can the father be greater then the son if they are co-equal?
@muslim1ahmed To answer your question, How can the father be greater than the son?.You dont need to guess.The answer is there in the bible.John 17:5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began(SO Yeshua shares equal glory along with his father from the beginning of time).While on earth, as man and among mortals his glory is taken away and thus the father is greater.When he returned ,he shared the same glory.Hope that cleared your doubt.
@MrTheCorrupter sorry i took so long i just finished school so i couldn't reply any faster. so for Matt 13:10-11 the mysteries also know in Islam as the unseen or unknown is the knowledge given to the prophets of God to make the people believe and this is how the prophet prophesied
@MrTheCorrupter If you Read the bible No were in it does Jesus claim to be God, only after he had left this world was is states of a Messenger changed to that of God himself . and in the bible time and time again he only claims to be sent by god (father) or as the messenger John8 : 25 "Who are you?" they asked. "Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. 26 "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
.....I rest my case. This whole show is bullshit propaganda and it is rather immature to point out that ones own religion is right and everything else is bs.....
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
We approach to Hadees from Quran. The reason for this is Quran is the word from God thus no error. So when ever hadees contradict with Quran that particular hadees is tagged as a weak hadees. Here the chain need not to be weak. Let there be no compulsion in religion"(2:256)" This is Quranic verse so we pay attention to it. We don't accept many hadees in Buhari and other Books as sahee. I think you have to go one step deep into the science of hadees.
the trinity is simple The Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) is God..the WORD of God (Jesus before becoming human) is God..Old testament...Prophizes about the word of God been sent by God and his Spirit..Isaiah 48:16...Whenever u pray u do it in Gods" name(singular) NOT NAMES(plural) Jesus said to babtize in the NAME(singular) of the FATHER and the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT..they are all and the same GOD ONE GOD forever and ever, why do u think Jesus can forgive people's sin?? which only God can do?
@njfreddy i under stand that you say the holy spirit is the holy ghost whose god manifested and Jesus is the son at the same time god whose the father so your saying three in one but why do you talk like their three different beings and in John 1:18 no one has seen the father (god) but in Luke 3:20-22 the holy spirit is seen by Jesus so the holy spirit has to be Different from the father and at the same in Exodus 33:20 no one survives seeing the father but Jesus sow the holy Ghost yet he did
@muslim1ahmed AMEN I LOVE UR QUESTION..The spirit of God is God, the Word of God is God!..his Word became Flesh, and since he was now human we had to give him a name.. he was name Jesus..WHy do u think He did things only God and only God can do?? Like forgive peoples sin? live with out sin? Jesus says he can raise u from the Dead..he also says he can raise himself from the dead, remember the words Jesus said to Thomas when Thomas saw him alive again..bless those that didnt see but still believe
@njfreddy if Jesus sow the Holy ghost then does that not mean god is a bird in Luke 3:20-22 and does god really have to die for our sins to be forgiven and what is the meaning of death in your bible. and one more why would i follow a book that is meant to be from god at the same time it contradicts in self clearly and man that where inspired by the holy ghost wrote it hundred of years after god died and how do we know they where really inspired you can choose to answer any one you like
@muslim1ahmed PART 1 understand this..God can never take back his word or any promise, God said that the penalty for sin is DEATH, God created humanity perfect, but Lucifer contaminated his Creation with Sin, Now all humans are born with a sinful nature, no human cant ever be with God unless ur immaculate{sinless} But remmember what God said!! THE PENALTY FOR SIN IS DEATH and God cant take this words back..But Because God is LOVE and he Loves us so much, He decided to take the sins of the world
@njfreddy Allah u Akbar you said God can never take back his word or any promise and sin is punishable by death one god did take back many of the thing he said like in Hosea 11:8 ,Amos 7:3,Exodus 32:14 " and God revoked His evil that He had said that He would do to them and He did not do it"Jonah 3:9-10 and the penalty of sin is death then the prophet like Davide and Lot and Noah should be put to death a cording to the bible Romans 6: 23 and in Psalm 146:8 " the LORD loves the righteous".
@njfreddy and Is Davide righteous by committed adultery and Murder. aren't they our remodels aren't they the man of god. ok tell me why is Matthew 27:51-53 is they only Verses in the bible that talk about this incident will it should be a big thing for the bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised if that Author was not lying and Mark 16:9-20 where add to the bible go to bible gateway "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9–20"
@muslim1ahmed when u say Davidi he righteous i will say no, only Jesus was the only human being in the history of humanity that Never, EVER sinned..and about Matthew 27:51-53 why is it only mention in Matt, i dont know, there are things that are mention in John that not mention in the other 3 Gospels and vice versa but the most important thing they ALL agree that Jesus is the son of God and that he died for the sins of mankind and was raise on the 3rd day and that is christianity in a nutshell
@njfreddy lets take it one at a time first about the prophets Davide how can he be a evil man at the same time be one of god messengers read John 13:20 and look at the men of god and Revelation 11:10, Matthew 10:40-41,Matthew 23:34, John 13:20, John 15:20, Acts 11:25-30, Acts 13:1 and Acts 15:32 so a man of god can never sin because how can the holy ghost talk thought a sinner 2 Peter 1:21, and in 1 Thessalonians 2:13 only the believer are inspired and in Acts 2:30 hes a prophet now think ?
@muslim1ahmed Let me ask u a Question, Mary the Mother of Jesus is consider the greatest woman that ever Lived, even greater then muhammed's mother! ..why is that?? pls why is she consider the greatest?
@njfreddy Mary is one of the best may god be pleased with her and she gave birth to one of Gods best messengers she has a higher statues then any woman in this world because was closer to god then any of them but she was not has good as a messenger because they are the most closest to god some of them talked to him while others received revelations you tell me what did the Jew call Mary after she came home with baby Jesus. what did the Jews do to the messengers after Moses.
@njfreddy the Jews use to kill the man of god they tried kill Muhammad and they killed John the Baptist and his father Zachariah.every time a messenger would come they would either disbelieve in him or try killing him at the end of the day Jesus nor Mary is better then any other prophet or messenger of god they are all equal in some ways but god gave each one something better then the other like god talk to Moses and Jonah his people followed him and Joseph who was the most beautiful man
@njfreddy what is your proof that he tried to enforce Islam on them but in fact they had freedom of religion and the Quran it self gives rights to the Jew's and other people to worship what ever they wanted. Allah said "Let there be no compulsion in religion"(2:256) so please don't follow the lies that are spread about Muhammad because the people to day are driven by this world and they hate the truth for this reason Muhammad's life was in danger and the Jew's tried to kill him.
@SoldierOfChrist110 my Friend prophet Muhammad did it for i reason and i could tell you that their was a peace treaty between him and the Jews of Medina and that the Jews broke the treaty violated the Right of a Muslim woman and attempted to kill the Prophet (PBUH). even though he was the most patient one he gave them 10 days the leave the city or fight and they choice to fight and that was a fair punishment for them. but wait a minute weren't the Jew who killed Jesus?
But Muhammad also killed people in unprovoked attacks. But even if what you say is true, look at what Jesus did. Jesus still loved the Jews no matter what they did. Jesus never killed anyone. Compare Jesus to Muhammad and you will see the big difference.
@SoldierOfChrist110 ok tell me when did he kill people in an unprovoked Attack the Quran it self condemns to Attack other people unjustifiably god Said in 2:90"You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors. " it clearly stats no fighting except in self defense. tell me if Muhammad was so evil why would he commend people to pay charity to fast and pray to one god
@SoldierOfChrist110 why would he tell us to treat the orphens and the poor in in a good manners why would he tell us to love are brothers what we love for our self. he taught equality between a man and is slave and to show mercy to your parents and to forbid evil and say the truth even if it's against you.
Of course there is some good in the Quran because if there wasn't no Muslim would follow it. However, compare the teachings of Muhammad to the teachings of Jesus and you will see the difference. Let me quote you a verse that many Muslims are following today:
(Muslim 1:33) the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
@SoldierOfChrist110 if i would had compared it you would have been shocked how much Resemblance it is but unlike Muhammad Jesus (PBUT) was not sent i new law. and this is what is says in your bible "Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God. (3 John 1:11) so is Mohammad not a man of god all your taught to see was the said that is misunderstood stood the most
You could not get so different of people than Jesus and Muhammad. Think of good and evil, light and darkness, black and white. The teachings of Muhammad were nothing like the teachings of Jesus. Muhammad was a man of a false god. Muhammad did not worhsip the true God, Jehovah. And why are you quoting me 3 John 1:11? Muslims claim the gospel is corrupted and yet you quote me the very gospel you accuse of being corrupt? Isn't that being two-faced?
@SoldierOfChrist110 The reason i quote the Gospels is i to believe that they where once the Clean word of God until they where corrupted thats why we Muslim do not belie them nor do we believe it is 100% the word of god because it is very doubtful (sorry if you take it as an insult) and no two people could be closer then Jesus and Muhammad in teachings Muhammad taught to wardship one GOD to fast , pray and give charity to do what is good and to forbid. what is evil did Jesus not teach this?
Ok, explain this contradiction to me: Muslims will say that God's word can't be changed. But they will say that the Bible was God's word but it got corrupted over time. How can God's word get corrupted if God's word can't be changed? Can you explain this big contradiction? And please explain this verse:
(Muslim 1:33) the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah.......
@SoldierOfChrist110 my dear friend you have to under stand one thing when Islam talk about fighting it does not talk about the innocent people or the people you have made a covenant but in fact it talks about the people who our Prophet was at war with in times of war and if you would have read the Quran it clearly stat freedom of religion in 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion" and chapter 109. Muslim 1:33 is not a verses it is a hadith which was reported saying of the prophet
@SoldierOfChrist110 don't take it out of context the prophet Muhammad was talking spreading the Message and fighting the oppressors till they stop read the rest of the Hadtih and read Verses (8:39) "And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do" he was fighting against oppression and to establish the laws of the all mighty lord
@SoldierOfChrist110 and if you read the full Hadith it tells him to order people to fast pay charity and to do good what evil is in that did not Jesus say Luke 12:53``They will be divided, father against son and son against father ... etc`` Jesus was ONLY sent to the lost sheep of Israel but Muhammad was a mercy to this world it is the people that miss understood him he was never wrong your own life is in your hand like the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion
I noticed you didn't explain the big contradiction that I mentioned lol. By the way, that isn't what Muslim 1:33 says. Muhammad said that he has been commanded to fight against people UNTIL THEY TESTIFY THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH. This says nothing about fighting only the oppressors. Yes, being a follower of Jesus means you may be hated, even by your own family. Compare Jesus to Muhammad and you will see who the war lord is--Muhammad!
@SoldierOfChrist110 Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:13) same thing here
@SoldierOfChrist110 and about the bible being corrupt your own prophet (moses) said it would be corrupt Deuteronomy 31:25-29 `` 27 For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! `` tell me why did the lord let Lucifer become evil why did god kill the people in japan why do millions of people die of poverty because it is the decree of god and no man can go against it
You havn't explained the contradiction. You said the Bible WAS the word of God but it got corrupted over time, but yet muslims say God's word can't be changed. Why can't you explain this contradiction? By the way, Christians are under the new covenant which means we obey the teachings of Jesus. Nowhere does Jesus teach violence like Muhammad did so please stop attacking straw man. I'm off to bed now. God bless.
@SoldierOfChrist110 God him self said in the quran that they corrupted the scripture no where in the bible does Jesus say he was the last messenger and that the bible was the final word of god. tell me what does moses mean in Deuteronomy 31:25-29 read it for your self. yes god did let man corrupt the bible. god gave free will to man but no where in the bible did god promise to protect the bible from corruption unlike to quran which was given immunity from it
@SoldierOfChrist110 this should be easy for the bible if it is the infallible word of god. Allah says in the Quran 4:82"Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction".so tell me Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God (2 Samuel 24: 1) or Satan(I Chronicles 2 1:1)
You still havn't explained your big contradiction. You said that the Bible WAS the word of God but it got corrupted over time. But yet Muslims say that God's word can't be changed. How do you explain this? How can you say that the Bible was God's word that got changed but yet you claim that God's word can't be changed? Why can't you explain this contradiction?
@SoldierOfChrist110 when we say god's word can't be changed we mean the quran only and Abrogation is not part of that change tell me where in the bible does god say that he would preserved the books from corruption .and what does moses mean in Deuteronomy 31:25-29. and if the bible was the word of god. then does that mean god is not infallible because he can't stop making errors in the bible
No, you was the one that said the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But how can God's word get corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't explained this contradiction.
@SoldierOfChrist110 it's ether two things your god is not infallible like you claim because of the mistakes the bible contains or it has rewritten by many man and from your own bible. and many things it the bible can't be explained by you people. for instance how can god let his messengers do evil acts like lut and David and Salomon and many other men. and when we say the word of god we mean the true word of god not the changed word of god
Your still not answering the contradiction you made. You said that the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But you also say that God's word can't be changed. So if the Bible was the word of God then how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't explained this contradiction.
You said to me that the Bible was God's word but got corrupted. But Muslims also say that God's word can't be changed. So, if the Bible was originally the word of God then how could it have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed?
@SoldierOfChrist110 tell me how am i contradicting my self bring me a verses in the Quran or the bible which says god's word cannot be changed you have no proof to support your view. you people can never answer our Questions if the bible is the word of god then something must be wrong with your god because he is no better then man? tell me what god can't stop the bible from corruption or has trouble in math because he can't get his numbers right. you tell who is god?
I repeat again, you told me that the Bible was God's word but got corrupted over time. However, muslims insist that God's word can't be changed. How do you explain this big contradiction? If the Bible use to be God's word then how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? After all this time you have still tried to evade your contradiction.
@SoldierOfChrist110 am not trying to deviate from anything you bring be a verses in the Quran ( with out pulling it out of context) which says one the bible is truly the word of god and two the word of god cannot be changed
I repeat again, it was you who told me that the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. You still havn't explained this big contradiction.
@SoldierOfChrist110 now your putting word's in to my mouth. lets assume god word can't be change and even then the quran is still valid and is the word of God because Jesus said their would be a prophet after him because he left the signs and the test of a prophet if he is from god or not. so lets go back the bible is the infalible word of "God" then tell me which bible should i follow the 73 books of the roman catholic or the 66 books of the Protestant and did god forget to edit the bible
@SoldierOfChrist110 so tell me why does the bible contradict itself so much if it is the infallible word of god. and tell me were in my book the glories Qurran does god say the bible was unchanged and please for the love of god don't repeat your self come up with an answer where?
Your still not answering your contradiction. You said that the Bible WAS the word of God but got corrupted over time. However, as a muslim you claim that God's word can't be changed. So how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? It was you who said that the Bible was the word of God, but yet you insist that the Bible got corrupted. Please explain your contradiction.
@SoldierOfChrist110 the true bible is lost can't you face the facts and am not contradicting myself we Muslims never said that the word of god can't be changed and were did you get that idea from haven't you watched the video the shiekh answerd your so called contradiction and the bible we have TODAY cannot be fully the word of the all might not even half of it
I see, your trying to evade your contradiction. Many, many muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. They say that the Bible can't be God's word because God's word can't be changed. But you said that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted. Therefore you contradicted yourself. Everyone else on here can see you contradiction. Thankyou for proving that Islam is a religion of deception.
@SoldierOfChrist110 you haven't proven anything all you did was say i was contradicting my self when in reality i wasn't because the bible could not be the word of god because god is not that stupid to make errors he is the god who created all things and the lies told by Christians about him our be on believable and in reality when you compare the two religions you'll find that Christianity is the religion of deception and lies and to begin with the new T is not the word of god
I repeat, you said to me that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted over time. However, Muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. Therefore how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't answered this contradiction.
@SoldierOfChrist110 please tell me or show me were in the quran does it say the words of god can not be changed (in general) and tell me does the bible contain errors yes or no
It is the muslims who tell me that God's word can't be changed. This is the argument that muslims use to say the Quran is the word of God. They tell me that the Quran is God's word because God's word can't be changed. But you told me that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted. So how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed?
@SoldierOfChrist110 when we say the words of god can't be change we mean the QURAN not the bible ALLAH said in the Quran that he would protected from corruption tell me were in the bible does god make that Promise 15:9 "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian" and Again when we say the word of god can not be changed we mean the QURAN NOT the bible Allah said it was corrupted so for what reason would we say it 100% the word of god
It was you who said that the Bible was God's word, but yet you accuse the Bible of being corrupt. By your own logic you are saying that God's word can indeed be changed. And if the Bible was a man made hoax then why hasn't anyone been able to destroy the Bible? The Bible has endured far more than the Quran.
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed did not believe the text of the Bible to be corrupted. He tells Christians and Jews to study, obey, judge by and hold fast to their scriptures (Quran 3:93, 5:46,47,66,68). The historical evidence proves that there has been no corruption of the biblical text before or after the time of Muhammed.
@evo55 when you quote from the quran make sure you read it before you say any thing no were in the quran does it say "Gospels" but Gospel singular if you look up the word bible it came from the Greek word biblia which means the BOOKS not one but many and yes God does confirm the GOSPEL which was given to Jesus i ask you what GOSPEL was written in the time of Jesus while he was alive?
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed mistakenly believed the Gospel was a book sent from God and given to Jesus, instead of a message inspired by the Holy Spirit and given to Jesus. Muhammed also was ignorant of the fact that Gospel or Evangelion means "good news". The word "Injil" comes from the Greek word "evangelion" via Aramaic, and means "good news". Had Muhammed understood this, he would have used the Arabic words for "good news" or "glad tidings" instead of Injil.
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed had a limited understanding of the Bible, which he believed to be the Torah, the Zabur (Psalms) and the Gospel. Had he truly been a prophet of God, he should have known that the Bible consists of more than just 3 books. He mistakenly believed the Torah to be one book, instead of the five first books of the Bible. He also believed the Gospel to be a book given to Jesus, which it is not. The Gospel was a message given to Jesus which he preached and taught to his disciples.
@evo55 my friend you have limited understanding of the Islam and what Muhammad taught no were in the Quran does it say bible once and when Allah talks about the books before he Says the Zabur (Psalms) where sent or given to Davide and the Torah is referred to the book of the Jews that was given or sent to moses(First FIVE and job)) Excluding the tablets given to moses on mount Shani, and their is no Evidence that the bible or the Torah was written in Arabic in the time of the Prophet (PBUH)
@evo55 and again your taking the quran out of historical context the only reason god says judge them by what was reviled Therine is because the Jews of Median did not believe that Muhammad was a messenger so for what reason would they be judged by Sharia law if they don't believe in it. and the bible the one we have to day is incapable of being the word of god for many reasons such as errors contradictories.. etc. and as a Muslim i can nether deny it as the word of god nor believe it.
@muslim1ahmed The evidence of the Dead Sea Scrolls which date to the time of Jesus proves that the Torah used by the Jews of Medina is the same Torah used today. There has been no corruption of the text as Muslims mistakenly believe.
@evo55 the first know Translation of the Bible ( N and O ) Was in 867 AD 235 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad and no Arab Spoke Hebrew Except the Jews of Medina and Yemen. and even with the Dead sea Scrolls not All are identical and i even heard no two are the same but i can't accept that fact because i am not sure of it and even with out them the bible contains too much error and contradictions that it can not be 100 % the word of god
@muslim1ahmed The first known translation of the Bible was from Hebrew into Greek done by Jews in Alexandria, Egypt before the Christian Era. This translation was called the Septuagint and was the Bible used by early Christians, who were primarily Greek speaking Jews. The Septuagint can be found online and proves Muhamed to be in error in what he says about the Torah and biblical prophets. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain the Hebrew Bible. The Hebrew Bible also proves Mhmd to be in error..
@evo55 come up with a better way to disproof Muhammad to start with the bible is corrupt and can not be the word of god ( the one we have with us today) which god makes errors and Contradiction
@muslim1ahmed You contradict your own prophet. Muhammed did not believe the written text of the Bible to be corrupted. He tells Christians and Jews to study, obey and hold fast to their scriptures (Quran 3:93; 5:46,47,66,68). The historical evidence proves that the Bible used in the time of Muhammed is the same Bible used today. There has been no corruption of the text. You are believing a lie of Satan to keep you trapped in Islam.
@jefeisdguard please read your bible Ishmael was named by Yahweh your god (Genesis 16:7-16) he was circumcised with the house of Abraham(Genesis 17) he was the first son and the older one out of the two and your god promised to make him a nation (Genesis 21:11-13) and in the old T he is one of the seeds of Abraham. and Muhammad is more then a Prophet he is a messenger of god and like the prophets and messengers before people failed to see the truth and people like them are not liked by evil
he was the first son and the older one out of the two and your god promised to make him a nation (Genesis 21:11-13) and in the old T he is one of the seeds of Abraham
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All of Gods promises to a [cast out] Ishmael ends in Genesis 25:13-16
There, as a father, he is also King & patriarch of the families of his 12 sons, the 12 princes. All prophets would come from Isaacs seed!
Proving Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c he is NOT from the seed of Isaac.
but wait who is that prophet for 600 years their was no person who claimed to be a prophet except Muhammad and he was the comforter talked about in John 15: 26
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Meaning of the word “paraclete” in dictionary(dot)com means: comforter, Holy Spirit. Jesus said in Luke 24:39 that a spirit has NO flesh or bones. So the comforter = paraclete = Holy Spirit = Spirit of Truth = Holy Ghost = John 14:26 = Luke 12:10
@jefeisdguard and in your own bible a messenger is said to come in two places and the only messenger to come after Jesus was Muhammad in john 1:19-22 the Jews ask John the Baptist is he was three people first of which was the return on Elijah and the second one THE PROPHET and last was the Messiah Jesus Christ the awaited Messiah, but wait who is that prophet for 600 years their was no person who claimed to be a prophet except Muhammad and he was the comforter talked about in John 15: 26
and Muhammad is more then a Prophet he is a messenger of god and like the prophets and messengers before people failed to see the truth and people like them are not liked by evil
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You must PROVE Muhammad came from the seed of Isaac in order for Muhammad to be a prophet. God called ONLY the seed of Isaac.
Remember, Isaac, is the son of a free woman Sarah & Abraham & was the only one of the 2 PROMISED by God.
please read your bible Ishmael was named by Yahweh your god (Genesis 16:7-16) he was circumcised with the house of Abraham(Genesis 17)
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This is where your assumptions end & knowledge begins. All of Abrahams house & his workers were covered under the 1st covenant with God. This was the covenant of circumcision.
ONLY ISAAC RECEIVED THE 2ND COVENANT WITH GOD B4 HE WAS EVEN BORN! Gen 17:19 & 21
Proving Muhammad is NOT a prophet & Islam a false religion.
the Jews ask John the Baptist is he was three people first of which was the return on Elijah and the second one THE PROPHET and last was the Messiah Jesus Christ the awaited Messiah,
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John the Baptist was born for ONE reason & ONE reason ONLY!
To shout, to LOUDLY PROCLAIM THE COMING OF JESUS!
Jesus said, that John was likened to that of Elijah, meaning both had the same charisma.
the only messenger to come after Jesus was Muhammad in john 1:19-22
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If Muhammad were to come after Jesus then why would the apostles have to wait 600 yrs? Are the apostles STILL alive for Muhammad? No. Do YOU see how faulty yours & Islams logic is? The Holy Spirit came IMMEDIATELY, not HUNDREDS OF YEARS, after Jesus was risen to heaven to impart the gifts of healing, miracles & speaking in tongues.
and in your own bible a messenger is said to come in two places
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In all prophesies from the bible, the messeneger, prophet, messiah to come is Jesus; God. Bible mentions nothing about Muhammad b/c Muhammad is NOT a prophet. You will see how all yours & Islams assumptions are w/o merit, but deceptively insidious. The lie that has spanned 1,400 yrs.
@jefeisdguard Ishmael is not a CAST out like you claim. Muhammad was the Descendant of Kedar (Genesis 25:13-16) the grandson of Ishmael and you must be confused read (Genesis 21:11-13) "I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your OFFSPRING." Genesis 21:12 Or SEED. and look at the book your taken the info from went through years of editing, and the bible we have to day can't be from god and it's easy to proof that. What God Makes mistakes?
who are you to say Muhammad come with a lie like Jesus and the others he claimed to be a prophet like the prophet he was opposed and almost killed like the Prophet all worshiped one god ALONE not THREE
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We can always discuss the one God argument. What is important & what could spell the doom for all Islam, allah, muslims & quran is this question begging for an answer: Where is Muhammad validated as a prophet scripturally in the bible?
@jefeisdguard and yes at one point the bible was truly the word of god if it was the infallible word of god. god would have not sent down another one. the bible my friend is incapable of being the word of god when Moses him self said the book will be corrupted ( Deuteronomy 31:25-29 ) and who are you to say Muhammad come with a lie like Jesus and the others he claimed to be a prophet like the prophet he was opposed and almost killed like the Prophet all worshiped one god ALONE not THREE
Muhammad was the Descendant of Kedar (Genesis 25:13-16) the grandson of Ishmael
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Muhammads lineage is from Ishmaels 2nd born son, Kedar, NOT his 1st born son, Nebajoth. Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c God never gave a 2nd covenant to Ishmael (God did to Isaac, tho, B4 Isaac was born! Gen 17:19 & 21) who was banished permanently & never had his seed called by God.
Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son:
Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, […] in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called
Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away
@jefeisdguard lying is not to why to spread ur religion my friend you failed to quote verses 11 and 13 in Gen 21 because they hold the truth Gen 21;11" The matter DISTRESSED Abraham GREATLY because it concerned his SON." gen 21:13 "I will make the SON of the SLAVE into a nation also, BECAUSE he is your offspring.” . lets take things one at a time so we can better understand our deferences. you said nothing in the quran can be trusted then please answer the following question about your bible
Are you saved by works as well as faith? Ephesians 2:8-9 says no and James 2:24 says yes.and if the bible in hole is the word of god why is there contradictions and errors in both the new and old T for instance
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Which of these did Jesus speak? Quran is CURSED for mouthing words Jesus never spoke; so where are the ‘words’ from Jesus in the verses you post?
The formula is simple: repent, believe & promote Gods words; NOT allahs words.
@jefeisdguard you want me to proof Prophet Muhammad's prophethood okay lets start with one thing no where in the bible does it say Jesus is the last and final messenger but he did say their would be false prophets and truth full ones to and Muhammad said the same thing now lets take a look at what the bible say about a true prophet.:" Numbers 12:6 a true prophet has revelations and has them in dream through out prophet Muhammad's prophethood he had constant dreams and revelations
@jefeisdguard 1 John 4:1-3 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God" prophet Muhammad taught that Jesus was the Messiah that he was god that he was sent to the children of Israel and in many places in the quran it call him the messiah the Christ he is praised in the quran
and prophet Muhammad did not put any word into any ones mouth it was a revelations from god and tell me how many times in the bible does god take a new covenant from the people Prophet Muhammad was a Messenger not a prophet
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Jesus spoke the words of God in the bible (John 12:49)
HOW CAN GOD SPEAK THRU THE WORDS OF MERE PAGAN ME LIKE YOUR QURANIC SCRIBES?
Why did your quranic scribes ‘script’ even words for Abraham,Moses, Noah, Mary, disciples & prophets?
you want me to proof Prophet Muhammad's prophethood okay lets start with one thing no where in the bible does it say Jesus is the last and final messenger but he did say their would be false prophets and truth full ones to
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What has that to do w/anything? All who prophesy are prophets, even today!
Many have the gifts of prophesy & gifted to preach, teach & evangelize.
But theres NO prophet alive or dead can say the words Jesus did: “I am …” or “In my name …”
@jefeisdguard and prophet Muhammad did not put any word into any ones mouth it was a revelations from god and tell me how many times in the bible does god take a new covenant from the people Prophet Muhammad was a Messenger not a prophet only he came with a new covenant from god with new laws but very similar to those of the prophet befrom him. you did not give me a legitimate reason for these contradiction why am i goingto trust a book that contradicts it self especially when mt salvation
only he came w/new covenant from god w/new laws but very similar to those of the prophet befrom him. you did not give me a legitimate reason for these contradiction why am i goingto trust a book that contradicts it self especially when mt salvation
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Whats the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE? Words of Jesus.
Find the “errors, contradictions & lies” from words of Jesus in NT.
Only from these words would a contradiction matter, b/c they are the ‘key’ to paradise.
is on the line and again you say he is not a true prophet WHY is the question
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B/c Muhammad is NEVER sanctioned by God thru Ishmael. God ONLY validated Isaac. ALL PROPHETS WILL GO THRU THE SEEDS OF ISAAC & JACOB! Even your quran says so!
Only seeds of Isaac & Jacob will all prophets come Gen 28:13-14 & Heb 11:17-18 & reaffirmed thru quran!
prophet Muhammad taught that Jesus was the Messiah that he was god that he was sent to the children of Israel and in many places in the quran it call him the messiah the Christ he is praised in the quran
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WRONG! Muhammad did NO such thing! Muhammad NEVER preached the words Jesus spoke of in the NT! NEVER! Muh’d was too busy raiding, pillaging & plundering to get the female captives for his rapes! Q 4:24 = right hand possessions
@jefeisdguard Do me a favor compare Muhammad to some of your Prophets in the bible like Solomon the prophet who went after other god and build TEMPLES for THEM (1 Kings 11:4) and then after his death god punished him by dividing his kingdom (1 Kings 11:9-13) Lot After Getting DRUNK committed Incest With is own two Daughter (Genesis 19:32-36) and according to Founder of Christianity (Paul) he was a Righteous man. tell me are these the men of god And Noah Drunk and Naked (Genesis 9:21)
and according to Founder of Christianity (Paul) he was a Righteous man.
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Paul became a slave to Jesus after he met Jesus as the ‘light’ on the road to Damascus. But B4 that, Paul was Saul. Saul was a murderer. Jesus changed him. Can anyone prove Paul murdered while under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost? Matt10:19-20 & 27, Luke 12:12, Exodus 4:12 & 15, 1 Corinthians 2:13
What has that to do with Islam? The 1st slaves were WHITE, not from Africa. The muslims were exporting slaves from Africa to the world market. America received 5% of the slave from Africa & were put to work immediately on farms. The slaves Islam bought were used for SEX, not work. Islam castrated most of the men. Muslims & Africans caught & sold Africans & were transported by Spanish or Dutch ships.
@jefeisdguard no man is perfect Muhammad mad a mistake and some prophets did but not the mistakes you accused them of because these are the men of god and they are not ordinary man they are men with a mission. they are the best amongst us and we take lessons from their lives "Prophets were GodÂ’s specially called and inspired messengers. They were "holy men of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21). and yes the quran does talk about their mistakes
no man is perfect Muh’d mad a mistake and some prophets did but not the mistakes you accused them of b/c these are the men of god and they are not ordinary man they are men with a mission.
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Muh’d RAPED Safiya & Rayhanah! Muh’d has SEX w/CHILD! Muh’d has SEX w/daughter-in-law! Muh’d beheaded HUNDREDS of boys! Muh’d had SEXw/all his beautiful captives in “right hand possession” (Q 4:24)
He made a mistake? Boy ohh boy, what an understatement!
You wrote: -QUOTE- just like Jesus, Muh’d did not speak from his desires read the quran ``53:3 Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. 53:4 It is not but a revelation revealed`` -UNQUOTE- Comparing Jesus to Muh’d is like comparing apples(Jesus) to road apples (Muh’d) Bukhari:V4B52N203 “I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, ‘He who obeys me, obeys Allah, and he who disobeys me, disobeys Allah.’” “Verily, Your Lord (allah) is ever quick to fulfill ur whims & desires” Aisha – Bukhari 4721
@jefeisdguard you just lied about Muhammad and misquoted my book. and look at this you failed to quote verses 14 in Deuteronomy 21:10-14. says ``However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB it just goes to show us how badly you misquote our books and your books to
you just lied about Muh’d & misquoted … Deut 21:10-14. says ``However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
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So, where exactly does Deut 21:14 suggest “sex slave”?
21:14 … thou shalt let her go … thou shalt not sell her … thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
then you quoted "I have fabricated things against God ...." Al-Tabari 6:111 this hadith clearly goes against the quran. it weak hadith
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Weak? But true nevertheless right? Not only has Muhammad “FABRICATED” words to God NOT in the bible, but ur quran has also!
The quran has dialogues from Jesus, Mary, Moses, Noah, Abraham, disciples & prophets NONE ever said! & is why quran is CURSED via Rev 22:18 & Deut 4:2
Joining Islam is like buying a ticket to hell, for me.
@jefeisdguard and your taking your info from people who hate Islam and Muslim wrong place to learn islam Read the Quran and hadith for yourself stop going on answering islam and other webs which lie about us and our books Hatred makes them ignorant and ignorance lead to lying about something which they have no clue of
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB it just goes to show us how badly you misquote our books and your books to
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Actually YOU misquoted Deut 21:14. From what source did you get your quote from? Does Islam have its own Christian bible? I got mine from the KJV bible.
so he can worship Allah The one lord of all. and then you said "Muh’d had sex w/his wives & slaves, while fasting" and then you quoted Sahih Bukhari's Hadiths vol 1, Bk 6, # 316. read before you quote !!!!
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So, you know & I know Muh’d is a nympho, right? Remember? He has the libido to 30 men! (Bukhari,Vol 1, Bk 5, # 268)
What makes you think he doesn’t have sex while fasting, regardless?
and all the thing you just qutoed where from Tabati and ibn Isahq the two that are not accepted do to their lack of chian in narrations and authenticity. the same reason you don't accept the gospel of barnabas and many other
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NO! Ur talking aplles & road apples. WE don’t accept Gospel of Barnabus b/c Jesus NEVER met Muhammad yet says Muhammad is the TRUE Messiah!
and us muslim look at the authenticity of the hadith and the chain of narrations before we follow or believe the hadith is true because after the prophet died their where many hypocrites who lied about hadith and made fabrication and so on.
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Ok, so you admit many muslim scholars “FABRICATED” hadiths, right? Fabricate from what? The truth? Can YOU explain why ur quranic scribes “FABRICATED” a dialogue bwtn allah: & Jesus, Moses, Noah & Abraham?
@sutonchef What don't you get? I believe in Jesus & his teachings & I also believe that there is only ONE god and the Jesus is his messenger not son. God is not a man.
ServantOfAllah567 3 weeks ago
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND JESUS IS HIS SON
sutonchef 3 weeks ago in playlist gospel
Why pick Jesus or Muhammad? Why not both?:) In Islam we respect Jesus & a Muslim can't be a Muslim unless you believe in Jesus, so ya.
ServantOfAllah567 3 weeks ago
@ServantOfAllah567 JESUS SON OF GOD IS THE ONLY WAY
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THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND JESUS IS HIS SON
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tigersforchrist 3 weeks ago
Islam simply is NOT compatible with Western Society. Muslims will be delivered from this evil or we'll all be "reverted" back to 7th century Arabia.
WillyT3117 4 weeks ago
@SirMuslim786 What ???? Br don't misquote Luke 19,the verse u r talking about is OUT OF CONTEXT.read Luke 19 starting from verse 11 to get the whole Context.In Luke 19 Jesus is talking about a nobleman who gave 10 pound's to each of his slave to do business,one of his slave did not invested the money given to him,because he was scared that the nobleman will kill him if he lost the money in business.this Parable is called Parable of the ten pounds.. Jesus never promoted terrorism
amanvds 1 month ago
Obiosly he is not from God, The god of Abraham, because he ordered killings and beheadings.-while jesus had given his life to mankind and never had took advantage of women and children as his sexslaves,-From abrahan, isaac, moses, david, Isaah, john the baptist are one of the real prophets of God of the most hIgh Jehovah, adonai YHWH,--Since they follow the 10 momandmants of God, and does not consent plogamy at all--for God hated who does polygamy, phidopilia, Idoletry, murder, -What else ???
wildsurfer67 1 month ago
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mohammad was a pedophiole, and u can not read a book as a normal person because islam make u retard
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alineferreirademello 1 month ago
hi pity muslims are fool by muhamad...
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miladmeah 3 months ago
@SirMuslim786
you are a fool dont know anything about jesus. you cannot find such a great personality in your muhammed.
jesus is love who prayed for them who killed him. so try to understand jesus,s love.
donthomas333 3 months ago
excuse me, Im sorry i mean R.I.P MR. MAKAVELI Salam Alaikum
edgarhuiltron 4 months ago
I am Muslim, Jehovah Witness and NEITHER RI..P 2pac
edgarhuiltron 4 months ago
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edgarhuiltron 4 months ago
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AhmadDakhlallah1 4 months ago
I am a Christian! All I can say that Jesus is who he says he is! Either that or he is a Lier! And even muslims know he is not a lier. We need to stop all of this talk if he is God or if he is not God and just go tot he Bible and read who he is!
viper2808 5 months ago
Learn Arabic, then translate the meanings of Hadith. Reading them in English is like learning at the 8th grade level.
hamzah938 6 months ago
Islam is the fastest rejected religion in the world.
llKeon 6 months ago
@TheSaundersroadoxo they will be deceived by not letting them enter heaven. and these people you mentioned it was there choice to Apostate and no one loses but them, and in fact Islam is for those people with and open mind, not those you view things from one angle only, and for your information we Muslims are ordered to be logical thinkers read "Thus clearly do We spell out these messages unto people who use their reason." [30:28] and [39:42] so don't get Islam mixed up with Muslims
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Islam is evil and rancid
ManInControI 6 months ago
@ManInControI if Islam is evil and Rancid why are more people accepting it more then other Religion If Islam is Evil why would we be commanded to give charity why would Evil command it's followers to feed the poor to be good to the orphans, tell me if Islam is evil why does it tell us to Respect and take care of our old parents while yours are in old age homes why would Islam Tell use to stay away from the evil your society enjoys, my friend redefine Evil for your self
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed More people are not accepting Islam than any other religion that is a myth, unless you have proof to the contrary.
Islam is evil because it condones murder theft lies and rape in the name of God.Islam is evil because it denies the truth that Jesus was the son of God who died on the cross us. Islam is evil because it worships a false idol and followers the teachings of a murderer, thief and paedophile.
Wake up Muhammad was not a prophet
ManInControI 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed first of all, atheism is fastest growing Ideology.Secondly if Islam is growing very fast,it is just following the prophecy of revelation."The beast and his mark".Those who submit to the beast and his deceiver will perish.Yeshua already predicted false prophets and Misleaders and about prophets who come in his name.Thirdly if Islam is accepted in millions by lost sheep,it still doesn't justify its authenticity.Fourthly know a man by his fruit - look at muhammed.
MrTheCorrupter 6 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter What proof is there that Atheism is the fastest growing Ideology. I can easy bring proof that Islam is in fact a growing religion. If you read the bible Jesus predicted (prophesied) that their will be a prophet to come after him and their is no doubt about this. Prophet Muhammad Did not only bring light to his people but those after him. your short comings should not be our lose if you can't understand what Islam truly means
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Doesnt matter if we have shortcomings!! we dont care what you believe but feel tingly inside when some Arab bedouin takes up the name Yeshua and plagiarize Jewish sources - albeit imperfectly.Sorry mate Yeshua never predicted the arrival of any prophet, he was the son of god who came to end the prophetic line.Read the parable Mark 12:2 addressing this issue.Secondly, the predictions you are talking about is discussed in detail by Sam Shamoun - find it on utube.Its the holy spirit.
MrTheCorrupter 6 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter It does matter if there is short comings because our salvation is on the line, I would not follow falsehood god Clearly mad the truth easy to find for those who strive towards it Read the bible (Luke 11:9) God mad the true path clear from falsehood. and yet you people question it like you have authority to define what truth is our not Let the books speak from them self's Allah says in 4:82 if the book was from other then from god we would have found contradiction. . . .
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed The verse you quoted says "Ask and you shall seek".Salvation is only in Yeshua Messihah.Let the bible speak for itself::lets see if Islamic Isa and Yeshua are one;John8:58:before Abraham was I am.John10:30 I(jesus) and the father(yahweh) are one.John 14:9 He who has seen me has seen the father.john5:19 whatever the father does the son also does.John14:13 I (Jesus) will do whatever you ask in my(Jesus) name,john 8:54My father(God) will glorify me(Jesus).Want me to quote more?
MrTheCorrupter 6 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter Salvation is with God not The messenger. John 14:28 "for the Father is greater than I" .John 5:37 "And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form," John 8: 29" The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always DO WHAT PLEASES HIM." John 8 :26 " But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world." John 17:1 Jesus looks towards the heavens and prayed (to who)
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Part 1 : The answer is in your question.This is called the idea of trinity.Jesus meant "No one has seen Gods true form in all its glory".Jesus was again praying to a higher self that sent him,what the trinity refers to as Father(Yahweh).PROOF : Genesis 19:27 the lord stood before Abraham(So a mere mortal saw god in a human form). Genesis 32:22-32 Jacob wrestles with the lord(again the same case).So you cant possibly deduce that jesus meant no one has seen god(in its literal sense)
MrTheCorrupter 6 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter and another question. if Jesus is god doesn't that mean god died ? and if only the body of Christ died doesn't that mean the son is no eternal and there for can not be god.
muslim1ahmed 5 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Part 2 :Genesis 11:7 let us go down and confuse their language.Who is he that stood with god and god is speaking to? - Correlate this with john8:58 (Jesus) speaks Before Abraham was,I am.John 5:21 The son gives life to whom so ever he pleases.Who can give life other than god?who can do what god does,other than god, who can be before Abraham?who can defeat death?who was standing with god in the beginning of time?Hope I addressed your queries and know a prophet by his fruit(math7:16)
MrTheCorrupter 6 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter one no were in the bible did Jesus explicitly claim to be god nor did he hind any thing. the verses you claim to proof your point can be interpreted in many ways. but for some you just simply misunderstanding it from your own bible for instance john 5:21 "the son gives life to whom so ever he pleases" the answer is in the verses before it read 19" “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing"
muslim1ahmed 5 months ago
@muslim1ahmed I can do nothing by himself,but the son can do whatever the father does.So,is it mutually contradictory?NO.The son and the father are one.That was my whole point.One can only understand the bible if you read through OT prophecy -relate it with NT prophecy,from A toZ.Matt 13:10-11 Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.”(nothing explicit)
MrTheCorrupter 5 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter we can go on and on with this but we will get no where. so we need to be open minded and not depend on faith alone. and judge with logic, i have a question The Trinity Doctrine stats that the father is not the son and the son is not the holy ghost but all three are one right. and all three are co-equal and co-eternal. so how can the father be greater then the son if they are co-equal?
muslim1ahmed 5 months ago
@muslim1ahmed To answer your question, How can the father be greater than the son?.You dont need to guess.The answer is there in the bible.John 17:5And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began(SO Yeshua shares equal glory along with his father from the beginning of time).While on earth, as man and among mortals his glory is taken away and thus the father is greater.When he returned ,he shared the same glory.Hope that cleared your doubt.
MrTheCorrupter 5 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter sorry i took so long i just finished school so i couldn't reply any faster. so for Matt 13:10-11 the mysteries also know in Islam as the unseen or unknown is the knowledge given to the prophets of God to make the people believe and this is how the prophet prophesied
muslim1ahmed 5 months ago
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@MrTheCorrupter i have to go now I'll reply later i still have more to say.
muslim1ahmed 5 months ago
@MrTheCorrupter If you Read the bible No were in it does Jesus claim to be God, only after he had left this world was is states of a Messenger changed to that of God himself . and in the bible time and time again he only claims to be sent by god (father) or as the messenger John8 : 25 "Who are you?" they asked. "Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. 26 "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
muslim1ahmed 6 months ago
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A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
.....I rest my case. This whole show is bullshit propaganda and it is rather immature to point out that ones own religion is right and everything else is bs.....
nodoctoryet 7 months ago
the fact is -- it seems people want to just forget this fact - these things are in Islam - no one seems to get that thru their head and that is scary
why not keep talking about it ?? it needs to get thru the West's head and have them underststand
Yizlanu 9 months ago
you guys are attacking muslims since >>>>>>> wooooow ( a lomg time ago )
where is the individual freedom?? leave them alone guys,
hamdan762 9 months ago
i meant can't be changed
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
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1400 years ago
Quran:
{Surah-71-nuh (Noah) -vs-26}
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
quranresponse 10 months ago
that was a really quick break lol
DiscipleInstinct 10 months ago
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Did Jesus preach jihad?
Luke-ch-19-vs-27(Jesus spiking)
Moreover, these enemies of mine that did not want me to become king over them bring here and slaughter them before me.
bibleresponse 11 months ago
Luke-ch-22-vs-37 (Jesus speaking)
For I tell you that this which is written must be accomplished in me, namely, ‘and he was reckoned with lawless ones.
Acts-ch-4-vs-8(author speaking)
Then peter filled with Holy Spirit.
Acts-ch-4-vs-10(peter speaking)
That in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene. 2 corinthians-ch-12-vs-1(Paul speaking)
I have to boast. It is not beneficial; but I shall pass on to supernatural vision and revelations of the load.
bibleresponse 11 months ago
We approach to Hadees from Quran. The reason for this is Quran is the word from God thus no error. So when ever hadees contradict with Quran that particular hadees is tagged as a weak hadees. Here the chain need not to be weak. Let there be no compulsion in religion"(2:256)" This is Quranic verse so we pay attention to it. We don't accept many hadees in Buhari and other Books as sahee. I think you have to go one step deep into the science of hadees.
Rifka is 4rm our country. by ICCR-Sri Lanka.
shandona1 1 year ago
the trinity is simple The Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) is God..the WORD of God (Jesus before becoming human) is God..Old testament...Prophizes about the word of God been sent by God and his Spirit..Isaiah 48:16...Whenever u pray u do it in Gods" name(singular) NOT NAMES(plural) Jesus said to babtize in the NAME(singular) of the FATHER and the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT..they are all and the same GOD ONE GOD forever and ever, why do u think Jesus can forgive people's sin?? which only God can do?
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy i under stand that you say the holy spirit is the holy ghost whose god manifested and Jesus is the son at the same time god whose the father so your saying three in one but why do you talk like their three different beings and in John 1:18 no one has seen the father (god) but in Luke 3:20-22 the holy spirit is seen by Jesus so the holy spirit has to be Different from the father and at the same in Exodus 33:20 no one survives seeing the father but Jesus sow the holy Ghost yet he did
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed AMEN I LOVE UR QUESTION..The spirit of God is God, the Word of God is God!..his Word became Flesh, and since he was now human we had to give him a name.. he was name Jesus..WHy do u think He did things only God and only God can do?? Like forgive peoples sin? live with out sin? Jesus says he can raise u from the Dead..he also says he can raise himself from the dead, remember the words Jesus said to Thomas when Thomas saw him alive again..bless those that didnt see but still believe
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy if Jesus sow the Holy ghost then does that not mean god is a bird in Luke 3:20-22 and does god really have to die for our sins to be forgiven and what is the meaning of death in your bible. and one more why would i follow a book that is meant to be from god at the same time it contradicts in self clearly and man that where inspired by the holy ghost wrote it hundred of years after god died and how do we know they where really inspired you can choose to answer any one you like
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed PART 1 understand this..God can never take back his word or any promise, God said that the penalty for sin is DEATH, God created humanity perfect, but Lucifer contaminated his Creation with Sin, Now all humans are born with a sinful nature, no human cant ever be with God unless ur immaculate{sinless} But remmember what God said!! THE PENALTY FOR SIN IS DEATH and God cant take this words back..But Because God is LOVE and he Loves us so much, He decided to take the sins of the world
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy Allah u Akbar you said God can never take back his word or any promise and sin is punishable by death one god did take back many of the thing he said like in Hosea 11:8 ,Amos 7:3,Exodus 32:14 " and God revoked His evil that He had said that He would do to them and He did not do it"Jonah 3:9-10 and the penalty of sin is death then the prophet like Davide and Lot and Noah should be put to death a cording to the bible Romans 6: 23 and in Psalm 146:8 " the LORD loves the righteous".
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed Read my respomse again obviously u didnt read it!!..i mean read it again about why Jesus died
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy and Is Davide righteous by committed adultery and Murder. aren't they our remodels aren't they the man of god. ok tell me why is Matthew 27:51-53 is they only Verses in the bible that talk about this incident will it should be a big thing for the bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised if that Author was not lying and Mark 16:9-20 where add to the bible go to bible gateway "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9–20"
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed when u say Davidi he righteous i will say no, only Jesus was the only human being in the history of humanity that Never, EVER sinned..and about Matthew 27:51-53 why is it only mention in Matt, i dont know, there are things that are mention in John that not mention in the other 3 Gospels and vice versa but the most important thing they ALL agree that Jesus is the son of God and that he died for the sins of mankind and was raise on the 3rd day and that is christianity in a nutshell
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy lets take it one at a time first about the prophets Davide how can he be a evil man at the same time be one of god messengers read John 13:20 and look at the men of god and Revelation 11:10, Matthew 10:40-41,Matthew 23:34, John 13:20, John 15:20, Acts 11:25-30, Acts 13:1 and Acts 15:32 so a man of god can never sin because how can the holy ghost talk thought a sinner 2 Peter 1:21, and in 1 Thessalonians 2:13 only the believer are inspired and in Acts 2:30 hes a prophet now think ?
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed Let me ask u a Question, Mary the Mother of Jesus is consider the greatest woman that ever Lived, even greater then muhammed's mother! ..why is that?? pls why is she consider the greatest?
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy Mary is one of the best may god be pleased with her and she gave birth to one of Gods best messengers she has a higher statues then any woman in this world because was closer to god then any of them but she was not has good as a messenger because they are the most closest to god some of them talked to him while others received revelations you tell me what did the Jew call Mary after she came home with baby Jesus. what did the Jews do to the messengers after Moses.
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@njfreddy the Jews use to kill the man of god they tried kill Muhammad and they killed John the Baptist and his father Zachariah.every time a messenger would come they would either disbelieve in him or try killing him at the end of the day Jesus nor Mary is better then any other prophet or messenger of god they are all equal in some ways but god gave each one something better then the other like god talk to Moses and Jonah his people followed him and Joseph who was the most beautiful man
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed the Jews tried to kill muhammed after muhammed wanted to force his new found faith on them!!
njfreddy 1 year ago
@njfreddy what is your proof that he tried to enforce Islam on them but in fact they had freedom of religion and the Quran it self gives rights to the Jew's and other people to worship what ever they wanted. Allah said "Let there be no compulsion in religion"(2:256) so please don't follow the lies that are spread about Muhammad because the people to day are driven by this world and they hate the truth for this reason Muhammad's life was in danger and the Jew's tried to kill him.
muslim1ahmed 1 year ago
@muslim1ahmed
Muhhamad was the one that beheaded hundreds of Jews in one day. How many Jews did Jesus kill? None.
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 my Friend prophet Muhammad did it for i reason and i could tell you that their was a peace treaty between him and the Jews of Medina and that the Jews broke the treaty violated the Right of a Muslim woman and attempted to kill the Prophet (PBUH). even though he was the most patient one he gave them 10 days the leave the city or fight and they choice to fight and that was a fair punishment for them. but wait a minute weren't the Jew who killed Jesus?
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
But Muhammad also killed people in unprovoked attacks. But even if what you say is true, look at what Jesus did. Jesus still loved the Jews no matter what they did. Jesus never killed anyone. Compare Jesus to Muhammad and you will see the big difference.
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 ok tell me when did he kill people in an unprovoked Attack the Quran it self condemns to Attack other people unjustifiably god Said in 2:90"You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors. " it clearly stats no fighting except in self defense. tell me if Muhammad was so evil why would he commend people to pay charity to fast and pray to one god
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 why would he tell us to treat the orphens and the poor in in a good manners why would he tell us to love are brothers what we love for our self. he taught equality between a man and is slave and to show mercy to your parents and to forbid evil and say the truth even if it's against you.
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
Of course there is some good in the Quran because if there wasn't no Muslim would follow it. However, compare the teachings of Muhammad to the teachings of Jesus and you will see the difference. Let me quote you a verse that many Muslims are following today:
(Muslim 1:33) the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 if i would had compared it you would have been shocked how much Resemblance it is but unlike Muhammad Jesus (PBUT) was not sent i new law. and this is what is says in your bible "Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God. (3 John 1:11) so is Mohammad not a man of god all your taught to see was the said that is misunderstood stood the most
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
You could not get so different of people than Jesus and Muhammad. Think of good and evil, light and darkness, black and white. The teachings of Muhammad were nothing like the teachings of Jesus. Muhammad was a man of a false god. Muhammad did not worhsip the true God, Jehovah. And why are you quoting me 3 John 1:11? Muslims claim the gospel is corrupted and yet you quote me the very gospel you accuse of being corrupt? Isn't that being two-faced?
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 The reason i quote the Gospels is i to believe that they where once the Clean word of God until they where corrupted thats why we Muslim do not belie them nor do we believe it is 100% the word of god because it is very doubtful (sorry if you take it as an insult) and no two people could be closer then Jesus and Muhammad in teachings Muhammad taught to wardship one GOD to fast , pray and give charity to do what is good and to forbid. what is evil did Jesus not teach this?
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
Ok, explain this contradiction to me: Muslims will say that God's word can't be changed. But they will say that the Bible was God's word but it got corrupted over time. How can God's word get corrupted if God's word can't be changed? Can you explain this big contradiction? And please explain this verse:
(Muslim 1:33) the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah.......
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
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@SoldierOfChrist110 my dear friend you have to under stand one thing when Islam talk about fighting it does not talk about the innocent people or the people you have made a covenant but in fact it talks about the people who our Prophet was at war with in times of war and if you would have read the Quran it clearly stat freedom of religion in 2:256 "Let there be no compulsion in religion" and chapter 109. Muslim 1:33 is not a verses it is a hadith which was reported saying of the prophet
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 don't take it out of context the prophet Muhammad was talking spreading the Message and fighting the oppressors till they stop read the rest of the Hadtih and read Verses (8:39) "And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do" he was fighting against oppression and to establish the laws of the all mighty lord
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 and if you read the full Hadith it tells him to order people to fast pay charity and to do good what evil is in that did not Jesus say Luke 12:53``They will be divided, father against son and son against father ... etc`` Jesus was ONLY sent to the lost sheep of Israel but Muhammad was a mercy to this world it is the people that miss understood him he was never wrong your own life is in your hand like the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
I noticed you didn't explain the big contradiction that I mentioned lol. By the way, that isn't what Muslim 1:33 says. Muhammad said that he has been commanded to fight against people UNTIL THEY TESTIFY THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH. This says nothing about fighting only the oppressors. Yes, being a follower of Jesus means you may be hated, even by your own family. Compare Jesus to Muhammad and you will see who the war lord is--Muhammad!
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
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@SoldierOfChrist110 Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:13) same thing here
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 and about the bible being corrupt your own prophet (moses) said it would be corrupt Deuteronomy 31:25-29 `` 27 For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! `` tell me why did the lord let Lucifer become evil why did god kill the people in japan why do millions of people die of poverty because it is the decree of god and no man can go against it
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
You havn't explained the contradiction. You said the Bible WAS the word of God but it got corrupted over time, but yet muslims say God's word can't be changed. Why can't you explain this contradiction? By the way, Christians are under the new covenant which means we obey the teachings of Jesus. Nowhere does Jesus teach violence like Muhammad did so please stop attacking straw man. I'm off to bed now. God bless.
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 God him self said in the quran that they corrupted the scripture no where in the bible does Jesus say he was the last messenger and that the bible was the final word of god. tell me what does moses mean in Deuteronomy 31:25-29 read it for your self. yes god did let man corrupt the bible. god gave free will to man but no where in the bible did god promise to protect the bible from corruption unlike to quran which was given immunity from it
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 this should be easy for the bible if it is the infallible word of god. Allah says in the Quran 4:82"Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction".so tell me Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God (2 Samuel 24: 1) or Satan(I Chronicles 2 1:1)
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
You still havn't explained your big contradiction. You said that the Bible WAS the word of God but it got corrupted over time. But yet Muslims say that God's word can't be changed. How do you explain this? How can you say that the Bible was God's word that got changed but yet you claim that God's word can't be changed? Why can't you explain this contradiction?
SoldierOfChrist110 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 when we say god's word can't be changed we mean the quran only and Abrogation is not part of that change tell me where in the bible does god say that he would preserved the books from corruption .and what does moses mean in Deuteronomy 31:25-29. and if the bible was the word of god. then does that mean god is not infallible because he can't stop making errors in the bible
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 and can you as a Christan that the bible 100% the word of god. just say the bible is 100% the word of god WITH out CHANGE
muslim1ahmed 10 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
No, you was the one that said the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But how can God's word get corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't explained this contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 because it was wrong in the first place?
TheGamanic 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 it's ether two things your god is not infallible like you claim because of the mistakes the bible contains or it has rewritten by many man and from your own bible. and many things it the bible can't be explained by you people. for instance how can god let his messengers do evil acts like lut and David and Salomon and many other men. and when we say the word of god we mean the true word of god not the changed word of god
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
Your still not answering the contradiction you made. You said that the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But you also say that God's word can't be changed. So if the Bible was the word of God then how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't explained this contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 what is their to proof i never said the word of god can be changed and you keep on repeating your self?
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
You said to me that the Bible was God's word but got corrupted. But Muslims also say that God's word can't be changed. So, if the Bible was originally the word of God then how could it have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed?
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 tell me how am i contradicting my self bring me a verses in the Quran or the bible which says god's word cannot be changed you have no proof to support your view. you people can never answer our Questions if the bible is the word of god then something must be wrong with your god because he is no better then man? tell me what god can't stop the bible from corruption or has trouble in math because he can't get his numbers right. you tell who is god?
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
I repeat again, you told me that the Bible was God's word but got corrupted over time. However, muslims insist that God's word can't be changed. How do you explain this big contradiction? If the Bible use to be God's word then how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? After all this time you have still tried to evade your contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 am not trying to deviate from anything you bring be a verses in the Quran ( with out pulling it out of context) which says one the bible is truly the word of god and two the word of god cannot be changed
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
I repeat again, it was you who told me that the Bible was the word of God but got corrupted over time. But muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. You still havn't explained this big contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 now your putting word's in to my mouth. lets assume god word can't be change and even then the quran is still valid and is the word of God because Jesus said their would be a prophet after him because he left the signs and the test of a prophet if he is from god or not. so lets go back the bible is the infalible word of "God" then tell me which bible should i follow the 73 books of the roman catholic or the 66 books of the Protestant and did god forget to edit the bible
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 so tell me why does the bible contradict itself so much if it is the infallible word of god. and tell me were in my book the glories Qurran does god say the bible was unchanged and please for the love of god don't repeat your self come up with an answer where?
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
Your still not answering your contradiction. You said that the Bible WAS the word of God but got corrupted over time. However, as a muslim you claim that God's word can't be changed. So how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? It was you who said that the Bible was the word of God, but yet you insist that the Bible got corrupted. Please explain your contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 you want your answer her it is /watch?v=ol-GXm6jDSc
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
No, please explain your contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 the true bible is lost can't you face the facts and am not contradicting myself we Muslims never said that the word of god can't be changed and were did you get that idea from haven't you watched the video the shiekh answerd your so called contradiction and the bible we have TODAY cannot be fully the word of the all might not even half of it
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
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SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
I see, your trying to evade your contradiction. Many, many muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. They say that the Bible can't be God's word because God's word can't be changed. But you said that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted. Therefore you contradicted yourself. Everyone else on here can see you contradiction. Thankyou for proving that Islam is a religion of deception.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 you haven't proven anything all you did was say i was contradicting my self when in reality i wasn't because the bible could not be the word of god because god is not that stupid to make errors he is the god who created all things and the lies told by Christians about him our be on believable and in reality when you compare the two religions you'll find that Christianity is the religion of deception and lies and to begin with the new T is not the word of god
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
I repeat, you said to me that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted over time. However, Muslims tell me that God's word can't be changed. Therefore how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed? You still havn't answered this contradiction.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 please tell me or show me were in the quran does it say the words of god can not be changed (in general) and tell me does the bible contain errors yes or no
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
It is the muslims who tell me that God's word can't be changed. This is the argument that muslims use to say the Quran is the word of God. They tell me that the Quran is God's word because God's word can't be changed. But you told me that the Bible WAS God's word but got corrupted. So how could the Bible have been corrupted if God's word can't be changed?
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@SoldierOfChrist110 when we say the words of god can't be change we mean the QURAN not the bible ALLAH said in the Quran that he would protected from corruption tell me were in the bible does god make that Promise 15:9 "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian" and Again when we say the word of god can not be changed we mean the QURAN NOT the bible Allah said it was corrupted so for what reason would we say it 100% the word of god
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
It was you who said that the Bible was God's word, but yet you accuse the Bible of being corrupt. By your own logic you are saying that God's word can indeed be changed. And if the Bible was a man made hoax then why hasn't anyone been able to destroy the Bible? The Bible has endured far more than the Quran.
SoldierOfChrist110 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed did not believe the text of the Bible to be corrupted. He tells Christians and Jews to study, obey, judge by and hold fast to their scriptures (Quran 3:93, 5:46,47,66,68). The historical evidence proves that there has been no corruption of the biblical text before or after the time of Muhammed.
evo55 9 months ago
@evo55 when you quote from the quran make sure you read it before you say any thing no were in the quran does it say "Gospels" but Gospel singular if you look up the word bible it came from the Greek word biblia which means the BOOKS not one but many and yes God does confirm the GOSPEL which was given to Jesus i ask you what GOSPEL was written in the time of Jesus while he was alive?
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed mistakenly believed the Gospel was a book sent from God and given to Jesus, instead of a message inspired by the Holy Spirit and given to Jesus. Muhammed also was ignorant of the fact that Gospel or Evangelion means "good news". The word "Injil" comes from the Greek word "evangelion" via Aramaic, and means "good news". Had Muhammed understood this, he would have used the Arabic words for "good news" or "glad tidings" instead of Injil.
evo55 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed Muhammed had a limited understanding of the Bible, which he believed to be the Torah, the Zabur (Psalms) and the Gospel. Had he truly been a prophet of God, he should have known that the Bible consists of more than just 3 books. He mistakenly believed the Torah to be one book, instead of the five first books of the Bible. He also believed the Gospel to be a book given to Jesus, which it is not. The Gospel was a message given to Jesus which he preached and taught to his disciples.
evo55 9 months ago
@evo55 my friend you have limited understanding of the Islam and what Muhammad taught no were in the Quran does it say bible once and when Allah talks about the books before he Says the Zabur (Psalms) where sent or given to Davide and the Torah is referred to the book of the Jews that was given or sent to moses(First FIVE and job)) Excluding the tablets given to moses on mount Shani, and their is no Evidence that the bible or the Torah was written in Arabic in the time of the Prophet (PBUH)
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@evo55 and again your taking the quran out of historical context the only reason god says judge them by what was reviled Therine is because the Jews of Median did not believe that Muhammad was a messenger so for what reason would they be judged by Sharia law if they don't believe in it. and the bible the one we have to day is incapable of being the word of god for many reasons such as errors contradictories.. etc. and as a Muslim i can nether deny it as the word of god nor believe it.
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed The evidence of the Dead Sea Scrolls which date to the time of Jesus proves that the Torah used by the Jews of Medina is the same Torah used today. There has been no corruption of the text as Muslims mistakenly believe.
evo55 9 months ago
@evo55 the first know Translation of the Bible ( N and O ) Was in 867 AD 235 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad and no Arab Spoke Hebrew Except the Jews of Medina and Yemen. and even with the Dead sea Scrolls not All are identical and i even heard no two are the same but i can't accept that fact because i am not sure of it and even with out them the bible contains too much error and contradictions that it can not be 100 % the word of god
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed The first known translation of the Bible was from Hebrew into Greek done by Jews in Alexandria, Egypt before the Christian Era. This translation was called the Septuagint and was the Bible used by early Christians, who were primarily Greek speaking Jews. The Septuagint can be found online and proves Muhamed to be in error in what he says about the Torah and biblical prophets. The Dead Sea Scrolls contain the Hebrew Bible. The Hebrew Bible also proves Mhmd to be in error..
evo55 9 months ago
@evo55 come up with a better way to disproof Muhammad to start with the bible is corrupt and can not be the word of god ( the one we have with us today) which god makes errors and Contradiction
muslim1ahmed 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed You contradict your own prophet. Muhammed did not believe the written text of the Bible to be corrupted. He tells Christians and Jews to study, obey and hold fast to their scriptures (Quran 3:93; 5:46,47,66,68). The historical evidence proves that the Bible used in the time of Muhammed is the same Bible used today. There has been no corruption of the text. You are believing a lie of Satan to keep you trapped in Islam.
evo55 9 months ago
@muslim1ahmed
Can you prove Muhammad is a prophet?
If all muslims believe Muh'd is found in various locations thru-out the bible then where does the bible validate Muhammad as a prophet?
Did Muhammad come from the seed of Isaac? B/c it is ONLY Isaac whose seed was called by God! It is ONLY Isaac who was given the 2nd covenant by God!
Ishmael? He was [cast out], forfeits all rights & birthrights.
According to God, Ishmael was the 'son of the bondwoman' NOT Abraham & Isaac was Abrahams ONLY son!
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard please read your bible Ishmael was named by Yahweh your god (Genesis 16:7-16) he was circumcised with the house of Abraham(Genesis 17) he was the first son and the older one out of the two and your god promised to make him a nation (Genesis 21:11-13) and in the old T he is one of the seeds of Abraham. and Muhammad is more then a Prophet he is a messenger of god and like the prophets and messengers before people failed to see the truth and people like them are not liked by evil
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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he was the first son and the older one out of the two and your god promised to make him a nation (Genesis 21:11-13) and in the old T he is one of the seeds of Abraham
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All of Gods promises to a [cast out] Ishmael ends in Genesis 25:13-16
There, as a father, he is also King & patriarch of the families of his 12 sons, the 12 princes. All prophets would come from Isaacs seed!
Proving Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c he is NOT from the seed of Isaac.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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but wait who is that prophet for 600 years their was no person who claimed to be a prophet except Muhammad and he was the comforter talked about in John 15: 26
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Meaning of the word “paraclete” in dictionary(dot)com means: comforter, Holy Spirit. Jesus said in Luke 24:39 that a spirit has NO flesh or bones. So the comforter = paraclete = Holy Spirit = Spirit of Truth = Holy Ghost = John 14:26 = Luke 12:10
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard and in your own bible a messenger is said to come in two places and the only messenger to come after Jesus was Muhammad in john 1:19-22 the Jews ask John the Baptist is he was three people first of which was the return on Elijah and the second one THE PROPHET and last was the Messiah Jesus Christ the awaited Messiah, but wait who is that prophet for 600 years their was no person who claimed to be a prophet except Muhammad and he was the comforter talked about in John 15: 26
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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and Muhammad is more then a Prophet he is a messenger of god and like the prophets and messengers before people failed to see the truth and people like them are not liked by evil
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You must PROVE Muhammad came from the seed of Isaac in order for Muhammad to be a prophet. God called ONLY the seed of Isaac.
Remember, Isaac, is the son of a free woman Sarah & Abraham & was the only one of the 2 PROMISED by God.
Ishmael is the son of the bondwoman.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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please read your bible Ishmael was named by Yahweh your god (Genesis 16:7-16) he was circumcised with the house of Abraham(Genesis 17)
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This is where your assumptions end & knowledge begins. All of Abrahams house & his workers were covered under the 1st covenant with God. This was the covenant of circumcision.
ONLY ISAAC RECEIVED THE 2ND COVENANT WITH GOD B4 HE WAS EVEN BORN! Gen 17:19 & 21
Proving Muhammad is NOT a prophet & Islam a false religion.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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the Jews ask John the Baptist is he was three people first of which was the return on Elijah and the second one THE PROPHET and last was the Messiah Jesus Christ the awaited Messiah,
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John the Baptist was born for ONE reason & ONE reason ONLY!
To shout, to LOUDLY PROCLAIM THE COMING OF JESUS!
Jesus said, that John was likened to that of Elijah, meaning both had the same charisma.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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the only messenger to come after Jesus was Muhammad in john 1:19-22
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If Muhammad were to come after Jesus then why would the apostles have to wait 600 yrs? Are the apostles STILL alive for Muhammad? No. Do YOU see how faulty yours & Islams logic is? The Holy Spirit came IMMEDIATELY, not HUNDREDS OF YEARS, after Jesus was risen to heaven to impart the gifts of healing, miracles & speaking in tongues.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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and in your own bible a messenger is said to come in two places
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In all prophesies from the bible, the messeneger, prophet, messiah to come is Jesus; God. Bible mentions nothing about Muhammad b/c Muhammad is NOT a prophet. You will see how all yours & Islams assumptions are w/o merit, but deceptively insidious. The lie that has spanned 1,400 yrs.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard Ishmael is not a CAST out like you claim. Muhammad was the Descendant of Kedar (Genesis 25:13-16) the grandson of Ishmael and you must be confused read (Genesis 21:11-13) "I will make the son of the slave into a nation also, because he is your OFFSPRING." Genesis 21:12 Or SEED. and look at the book your taken the info from went through years of editing, and the bible we have to day can't be from god and it's easy to proof that. What God Makes mistakes?
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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who are you to say Muhammad come with a lie like Jesus and the others he claimed to be a prophet like the prophet he was opposed and almost killed like the Prophet all worshiped one god ALONE not THREE
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We can always discuss the one God argument. What is important & what could spell the doom for all Islam, allah, muslims & quran is this question begging for an answer: Where is Muhammad validated as a prophet scripturally in the bible?
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard and yes at one point the bible was truly the word of god if it was the infallible word of god. god would have not sent down another one. the bible my friend is incapable of being the word of god when Moses him self said the book will be corrupted ( Deuteronomy 31:25-29 ) and who are you to say Muhammad come with a lie like Jesus and the others he claimed to be a prophet like the prophet he was opposed and almost killed like the Prophet all worshiped one god ALONE not THREE
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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Muhammad was the Descendant of Kedar (Genesis 25:13-16) the grandson of Ishmael
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Muhammads lineage is from Ishmaels 2nd born son, Kedar, NOT his 1st born son, Nebajoth. Muhammad is NOT a prophet b/c God never gave a 2nd covenant to Ishmael (God did to Isaac, tho, B4 Isaac was born! Gen 17:19 & 21) who was banished permanently & never had his seed called by God.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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Ishmael is not a CAST out like you claim.
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Gen 21:10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son:
Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, […] in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called
Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard lying is not to why to spread ur religion my friend you failed to quote verses 11 and 13 in Gen 21 because they hold the truth Gen 21;11" The matter DISTRESSED Abraham GREATLY because it concerned his SON." gen 21:13 "I will make the SON of the SLAVE into a nation also, BECAUSE he is your offspring.” . lets take things one at a time so we can better understand our deferences. you said nothing in the quran can be trusted then please answer the following question about your bible
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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Are you saved by works as well as faith? Ephesians 2:8-9 says no and James 2:24 says yes.and if the bible in hole is the word of god why is there contradictions and errors in both the new and old T for instance
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Which of these did Jesus speak? Quran is CURSED for mouthing words Jesus never spoke; so where are the ‘words’ from Jesus in the verses you post?
The formula is simple: repent, believe & promote Gods words; NOT allahs words.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard you want me to proof Prophet Muhammad's prophethood okay lets start with one thing no where in the bible does it say Jesus is the last and final messenger but he did say their would be false prophets and truth full ones to and Muhammad said the same thing now lets take a look at what the bible say about a true prophet.:" Numbers 12:6 a true prophet has revelations and has them in dream through out prophet Muhammad's prophethood he had constant dreams and revelations
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard 1 John 4:1-3 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God" prophet Muhammad taught that Jesus was the Messiah that he was god that he was sent to the children of Israel and in many places in the quran it call him the messiah the Christ he is praised in the quran
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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and prophet Muhammad did not put any word into any ones mouth it was a revelations from god and tell me how many times in the bible does god take a new covenant from the people Prophet Muhammad was a Messenger not a prophet
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Jesus spoke the words of God in the bible (John 12:49)
HOW CAN GOD SPEAK THRU THE WORDS OF MERE PAGAN ME LIKE YOUR QURANIC SCRIBES?
Why did your quranic scribes ‘script’ even words for Abraham,Moses, Noah, Mary, disciples & prophets?
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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you want me to proof Prophet Muhammad's prophethood okay lets start with one thing no where in the bible does it say Jesus is the last and final messenger but he did say their would be false prophets and truth full ones to
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What has that to do w/anything? All who prophesy are prophets, even today!
Many have the gifts of prophesy & gifted to preach, teach & evangelize.
But theres NO prophet alive or dead can say the words Jesus did: “I am …” or “In my name …”
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard and prophet Muhammad did not put any word into any ones mouth it was a revelations from god and tell me how many times in the bible does god take a new covenant from the people Prophet Muhammad was a Messenger not a prophet only he came with a new covenant from god with new laws but very similar to those of the prophet befrom him. you did not give me a legitimate reason for these contradiction why am i goingto trust a book that contradicts it self especially when mt salvation
muslim1ahmed 8 months ago
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only he came w/new covenant from god w/new laws but very similar to those of the prophet befrom him. you did not give me a legitimate reason for these contradiction why am i goingto trust a book that contradicts it self especially when mt salvation
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Whats the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE BIBLE? Words of Jesus.
Find the “errors, contradictions & lies” from words of Jesus in NT.
Only from these words would a contradiction matter, b/c they are the ‘key’ to paradise.
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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is on the line and again you say he is not a true prophet WHY is the question
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B/c Muhammad is NEVER sanctioned by God thru Ishmael. God ONLY validated Isaac. ALL PROPHETS WILL GO THRU THE SEEDS OF ISAAC & JACOB! Even your quran says so!
Only seeds of Isaac & Jacob will all prophets come Gen 28:13-14 & Heb 11:17-18 & reaffirmed thru quran!
Q 19:49, Q 12:38 & Q 29:27 & Q 6:84 & Q 21:72 & Q 38:45 Q 14:7
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
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prophet Muhammad taught that Jesus was the Messiah that he was god that he was sent to the children of Israel and in many places in the quran it call him the messiah the Christ he is praised in the quran
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WRONG! Muhammad did NO such thing! Muhammad NEVER preached the words Jesus spoke of in the NT! NEVER! Muh’d was too busy raiding, pillaging & plundering to get the female captives for his rapes! Q 4:24 = right hand possessions
jefeisdguard 8 months ago
@jefeisdguard Do me a favor compare Muhammad to some of your Prophets in the bible like Solomon the prophet who went after other god and build TEMPLES for THEM (1 Kings 11:4) and then after his death god punished him by dividing his kingdom (1 Kings 11:9-13) Lot After Getting DRUNK committed Incest With is own two Daughter (Genesis 19:32-36) and according to Founder of Christianity (Paul) he was a Righteous man. tell me are these the men of god And Noah Drunk and Naked (Genesis 9:21)
muslim1ahmed 7 months ago
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and according to Founder of Christianity (Paul) he was a Righteous man.
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Paul became a slave to Jesus after he met Jesus as the ‘light’ on the road to Damascus. But B4 that, Paul was Saul. Saul was a murderer. Jesus changed him. Can anyone prove Paul murdered while under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost? Matt10:19-20 & 27, Luke 12:12, Exodus 4:12 & 15, 1 Corinthians 2:13
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
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and a few decades ago didn't america have slavery
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What has that to do with Islam? The 1st slaves were WHITE, not from Africa. The muslims were exporting slaves from Africa to the world market. America received 5% of the slave from Africa & were put to work immediately on farms. The slaves Islam bought were used for SEX, not work. Islam castrated most of the men. Muslims & Africans caught & sold Africans & were transported by Spanish or Dutch ships.
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
@jefeisdguard no man is perfect Muhammad mad a mistake and some prophets did but not the mistakes you accused them of because these are the men of god and they are not ordinary man they are men with a mission. they are the best amongst us and we take lessons from their lives "Prophets were GodÂ’s specially called and inspired messengers. They were "holy men of God who spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:21). and yes the quran does talk about their mistakes
muslim1ahmed 7 months ago
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no man is perfect Muh’d mad a mistake and some prophets did but not the mistakes you accused them of b/c these are the men of god and they are not ordinary man they are men with a mission.
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Muh’d RAPED Safiya & Rayhanah! Muh’d has SEX w/CHILD! Muh’d has SEX w/daughter-in-law! Muh’d beheaded HUNDREDS of boys! Muh’d had SEXw/all his beautiful captives in “right hand possession” (Q 4:24)
He made a mistake? Boy ohh boy, what an understatement!
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
@jefeisdguard you just lied about Muhammad and misquoted my book. and look at this you failed to quote verses 14 in Deuteronomy 21:10-14. says ``However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB it just goes to show us how badly you misquote our books and your books to
muslim1ahmed 7 months ago
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you just lied about Muh’d & misquoted … Deut 21:10-14. says ``However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
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So, where exactly does Deut 21:14 suggest “sex slave”?
21:14 … thou shalt let her go … thou shalt not sell her … thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
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then you quoted "I have fabricated things against God ...." Al-Tabari 6:111 this hadith clearly goes against the quran. it weak hadith
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Weak? But true nevertheless right? Not only has Muhammad “FABRICATED” words to God NOT in the bible, but ur quran has also!
The quran has dialogues from Jesus, Mary, Moses, Noah, Abraham, disciples & prophets NONE ever said! & is why quran is CURSED via Rev 22:18 & Deut 4:2
Joining Islam is like buying a ticket to hell, for me.
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
@jefeisdguard and your taking your info from people who hate Islam and Muslim wrong place to learn islam Read the Quran and hadith for yourself stop going on answering islam and other webs which lie about us and our books Hatred makes them ignorant and ignorance lead to lying about something which they have no clue of
muslim1ahmed 7 months ago
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Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB it just goes to show us how badly you misquote our books and your books to
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Actually YOU misquoted Deut 21:14. From what source did you get your quote from? Does Islam have its own Christian bible? I got mine from the KJV bible.
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
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so he can worship Allah The one lord of all. and then you said "Muh’d had sex w/his wives & slaves, while fasting" and then you quoted Sahih Bukhari's Hadiths vol 1, Bk 6, # 316. read before you quote !!!!
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So, you know & I know Muh’d is a nympho, right? Remember? He has the libido to 30 men! (Bukhari,Vol 1, Bk 5, # 268)
What makes you think he doesn’t have sex while fasting, regardless?
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
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and all the thing you just qutoed where from Tabati and ibn Isahq the two that are not accepted do to their lack of chian in narrations and authenticity. the same reason you don't accept the gospel of barnabas and many other
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NO! Ur talking aplles & road apples. WE don’t accept Gospel of Barnabus b/c Jesus NEVER met Muhammad yet says Muhammad is the TRUE Messiah!
What kind of BS is that? DO U BELIEVE THAT CRAP?
jefeisdguard 7 months ago
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and us muslim look at the authenticity of the hadith and the chain of narrations before we follow or believe the hadith is true because after the prophet died their where many hypocrites who lied about hadith and made fabrication and so on.
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Ok, so you admit many muslim scholars “FABRICATED” hadiths, right? Fabricate from what? The truth? Can YOU explain why ur quranic scribes “FABRICATED” a dialogue bwtn allah: & Jesus, Moses, Noah & Abraham?
jefeisdguard 7 months ago