Re-Cut of Sheen's Opening Scene in Apocalypse Now... (additional material)

[fastacid714]

I love all the arm chair quarter backs, helo here helo there cambodia fat brando you gotta love it

[gijoe989]

i love martin sheen gijoe989. 

[PennyWisee14]

this is fucking terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr­rrrrrible

[joshgura]

its amazing to consider that charlie sheen was in this movie as well, swimming in his papa's balls. its also amazing that the sheen brothers own a korean corner store on 10 and B.

[JohnACorp782]

This was bullshit. Two pics of a jungle doesn't make it any better, only worse.

[Glaborifec]

"When Charlie squats in the bush he gets stronger". That's because he has Tiger Blood!!!

[Keith459001]

fishing on R&R

[wdchefdave56]

You ever fall asleep with nothing but a ceiling for "back-ground" noise... a helicopter would be the last of your problems!

Or, the beginning.

Does anyone remember when Arnold and everybody else wanted to be as "BAD ASS" as "Martin Sheen"?

Martin still rules... chain Charlie... forget Emilio... I am dead.

[t8trtot]

Also, why is there a Sea Knight helo in the shot? That does not say Nam the way a Heuy says Nam. And the edit between the fan and the helo seems trite. We get it, the fan makes us think of a helo...why show it? It's called "closure" let the audience do a little of the work...your giving them what amounts to "visual exposition"...why not show the flies buzzing in the room and the bedsprings that are squeaking, too. Jeunet can do that because he's a master. Re-cut one of his films, pal.

[DukeofConDao]

@t8trtot

excuse me. that helicopter is a Sea Knight? I don't think so. It belongs to the Vietnamese military. I agree the edit of the fan and copter is a bit silly. I'm sure fans of Boccaccio were pissed when Shakespeare butchered his masterworks. ;) as for the inserts of the jungle that's the real deal, pal, not the friggin' Philippines playing stand-in or for that matter lazy, fat bottomed Filipinos playing Khmers. hey pal, unlike you I've lived in Preah Veng...

[DukeofConDao]

@t8trtot

@t8trtot

excuse me. that helicopter is a Sea Knight? I don't think so. It belongs to the Vietnamese military. I agree the edit of the fan and copter is a bit silly. I'm sure fans of Boccaccio were pissed when Shakespeare butchered his masterworks. ;) as for the inserts of the jungle that's the real deal, pal, not the friggin' Philippines playing stand-in or for that matter lazy, fat bottomed Filipinos playing Khmers. hey pal, unlike you I've lived in Preah Veng...

[RManFlint]

@t8trtot I agree. Trite, obvious and hackneyed.

[t8trtot]

Why do this? Why take something that is a masterwork and try to "improve" it? Is this for some class or something? And why bash the fact that FFC chose poor locations for his shoot? I'm sure tat he would have had a difficult time explaining to the studio and insurance underwriters how he actually intends to take an entire movie production into CAMBODIA in the mid-late 1970's... Sure dangermouse made the gray album...that means you HAVE TO RECUT this entire film. Entire. Film.

[DukeofConDao]

@t8trtot

I wish Coppola did take an entire production into Cambodia in the late 70s. He would have made history instead of a flawed masterpiece. (although, he might not have made it out alive). Perhaps he would have made for the Khmer Rouge something on the order of Battleship Potemkin like Eisenstein did for the Leninist regime. I did not re-cut entire film.

[icanmyshoetie]

this sucks

[Kelter82]

Cut out those two "shots" of the jungle. They look stock and REALLY don't mesh well. I don't think you need any shot to the jungle at all, seeing as it's perfectly clear what a jungle is. But, if you must, use the jungle shots from earlier in the opening (part where the helicopter goes by).

[gdwhat]

@Kelter82 Part of the beauty of the original scene is it's NOT shown. Nobody needs to explain what a jungle looks like. Picture it yourself and it looks like whatever the viewer thinks it should look like. This is one of the reasons critics often say 'the book is better than the movie' when a movie is made. Sometimes the beauty lies in letting the observer picture things themselves. Coppola manages to do this in this scene by excluding what he knows we can picture ourselves.

[Kelter82]

@gdwhat perfectly said. Lack of "filler," as you might call it, also magnifies whatever is meant to be center stage. You cut away from that and it causes the viewer to lose focus, and therefore he or she can't (in this case) become lost alongside the protagonist.

[pliouso]

wow Martin Sheen was VERY good looking when he was younger!!

[mattcarrelo]

Everyone stop bitching... If you don't like it, jog on.

I've got this shit on repeat!

[Joeweeeeeeee]

this blows the original is better

[Joeweeeeeeee]

this is shit

[TomMonty81]

Really messy. Where was this additional material found? I honestly think this material is fake and is not connected to the original production at all. The extra jungle shot is a still and is in the wrong aspect ratio. The sound is all over the place. It feels like watching a really rough daily edit or a quick off line edit.

[morfius93638]

best war movie ever! never get out of the boat unless your prepared to go all the way

[extruvian]

Saigon … shit; I'm still only in Saigon … Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back in the jungle.

[LTstudios]

You could have at least put the Jpeg in the right aspect ratio...

[mattcarrelo]

@LTstudios Are you having a laugh, mate?

[imissthe90s1]

Kurtz was supposed to be thin and tall, but marlon brando was obese when he howed up for filming so they kept him in the shadows to try to cover this up slightly. the helicopters they used in apocalypse now were philipene because the americans wouldn't let coppola use them, the film (as well as platoon) was shot in the philipenes because the vietnemese don't allow them to film there.

[DukeofConDao]

@imissthe90s1

great points...

I spent almost a month last year in Cambodia jungle. It's not possible to be a fat fu*k out there. plus, Khmers don't have fat bottoms like his jungle warriors did.

[yiyo2008monte]

@imissthe90s1 kurtz was a sinister character that's why he was lurking in the shadows

[t8trtot]

@yiyo2008monte Brando was a fat-ass and the shadows were the only way the Director could have him on film.

[tzoyia1]

Is Sheen the narrator or is his brother?

[UberSecret]

@tzoyia1 Neither one. It's their Father, Martin Sheen.

[bassanglr]

this is gayyyy!!!!!!!!!

[kkkaldav]

I like how you cut to a picture of the jungle when Sheen says "jungle". Maybe when he says "getting softer" you could cut to a picture of a cushion or a marshmallow or something (just make sure it's a vietnamese cuchion/marshallow - for realism you see). Keep up the good work.

[dumpsky]

@kkkaldav LOOOL! brilliant! i think that when sheen says: "when i was here, i wanted to be there and when i was there i wanted to be here" we should cut between here and there and everywhere and when he says "been here a week now" we should definetly see a calendar where the leafs drop in slomo gettin all jumbled by helicopters and shit...

[TomCanBreathInSpace]

why would you do that?

[DukeofConDao]

1) demands of film pacing today

2) the POV street shot looks about as much like Saigon as Paris does to Madrid obviously Coppola had nobody on crew who knew the difference. the Cambodian jungle scene is so ridiculous. those faux Khmers have fat asses something you'd never see in Cambodia. I know because unlike Brando I've lived in Sprey Veng province.

3) because I Can! if DangerMouse can re-mix Jay-Z and the Beatles into the Grey album why can't I re-cut Apocalypse Now.

[tmutazz]

@DukeofConDao You could at least filmed a Vietnam era helicopter...that was a blackhawk.

[TheSoundGuy19]

I just dont know where to start here...u added basically a crappy bit of copter footage and a jungle jpeg?!

[DukeofConDao]

as I said below at least that was a Vietnam military copter flying near Ton Son Nhut. yes, it was a still shot but again shot in 'Nam not a stand-in country. those fat bottomed Khmers of Coppola still make me laugh! if you read Conrad you'll know that Kurtz was rail thin unlike that fat fu** Brando. it's absolutely impossible for someone to be that FAT in Kampuchea's jungles. why do I know this? I have spent time deep in those jungles.

[DukeofConDao]

at least some of the material was shot in Vietnam!

[TheSoundGuy19]

WTF was that?

[MrDUBMERC]

censor

[MrDUBMERC]

H iT was right

[panzolater]

run charlie run..........

[DukeofConDao]

you are correct sir but what you don't know is the irony in that shot because that copter was shot in Vietnam and is operated by their current military. also, since you have such a sharp eye not only did I drop out frames in the dolly to the window but I added a jungle scene which doesn't exist in the original. tell me that his director's was genius? or using fat bottomed Filipinos in the place of Cambodians...

[CLJuvenal]

Of course Coppola didn't add the extra chopper frames. You go from a huey to a 5-prop in the editing. Way to blow it

[thomasmantellwilliam]

1:10 Every Minute...

[thomasmantellwilliam]

Fuck Charlie

[zzhamstring]

A paradox of sorts, reminds me of being a prisoner of my own thoughts, memories