Um... question: where does one learn to write fugues or even counter point for that matter? I'm a music student and I've taken all the music theory I can take at college and counter point hasn't even been mentioned and I'd love to starting writing fugues.
@dakrushel I am not sure if fugue composition is taught in university anymore, since it is such an ancient form (at least not where I study), and "supposedly" has few applications in this modern world. I would recommend looking at Bach's works and analyses. But before that, you need a strong background in harmony and counterpoint. I learned those through private lessons on the theoretical component of the Royal Conservatory of Music system in Canada. Where do you go to school for music?
@zeryx28 I'm attending a small college in Canada. I've got tonal harmony pretty well nailed down now but I know nothing of counterpoint though I have a measure of familiarity with Bach, especially his organ works. Was there anything along the lines of a textbook for contrapuntal theory or composition and if so, where could I find it?
@MrEbaby2010 Haha thanks. No I was born in Canada, but my parents are from HK. The score isn't on my website, so if you would like a copy, please PM me your e-mail and I'd gladly send it to you. Cheers.
@MrEbaby2010 Actually, I just checked my website and yes, the score is there. When you say "difficulty in downloading this piece" do you mean the score or an audio recording, or the slideshow video itself?
@zeryx28 I ahve just downloaded the hard copy (score). Thanks for your beautiful composition. BTW, do you speak Cantonese and write Chinese. If yes, let's communcate in Chinese next time. for a more vivid discussion.
@zeryx28 I ahve just downloaded the hard copy (score). Thanks for your beautiful composition. BTW, do you speak Cantonese and write Chinese. If yes, let's communcate in Chinese next time. for a more vivid discussion. In factr, I am deeply impressed by your fugal writing 'Nokia fugue'.
I"m working on several fugues, too, and I can say that this is one of the better fugues I've heard! I generally write for strings (I'm a violinist) but have tried piano, too. Unfortunately I do tend to have problems when I get stuck, and often I can't get more than one minute out of a subject. Any advice?
@Ilkeyrion Kudos for writing fugues. I have the same problem of length of the composition when it comes to fugue. I find it helps to lay out an overall structure and plan each of the entries well. Depending on how versatile your subject is, the number of different configurations may vary. Example: Exposition, bridge, subject accompanied with bridge material, ..., re-exposition, subject with pedal. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier provides lots of innovative ideas. Cheers.
The pedal makes a very interesting end to this beautiful fugue. The use of a cryptogrammic fugue theme sounds particularly familiar to me! Extremely well written, congratulations. I look forward to listen to your next composition.
ummm... Bach? :?P i'm just having trouble processing the idea that anyone alive today could craft something of such intricacy and perfection. Vincent, you've outdone yourself again! :D any advice for the amateur fugue writer?
@peteralaric Haha, that's very flattering. Bach is my hero. :) (Well, one of several. Mily Balakirev is another composer whom I hold to high regard.)
For me, much of fugue writing is by luck. I almost follow these same steps whenever I attempt to write a fugue: (i) Come up with a subject that sounds interesting on its own and perhaps as its inversion. (ii) Countersubject (CS). (iii) Try to extend the subject canonically for some length. (iv) Try to reuse the CS. (v) Reuse pre-existing motifs.
uh... yeah, you just caused me to do a little Wikipedia-ing, and i would have to agree with you. it's hard enough to write music that sounds good when played ~forwards~ and ~right side up~, much less in all directions! :?P
thanks for the advice re: fugue writing. i intend to take it to heart.
p.s.: the ending of this fugue is magic. very nicely done.
Opus just means "composition." Composers often use "Opus #" to catalogue their compositions for chronological reference. Some composers choose to catalogue only selected pieces of music. In my case, I only catalogue performance art music. Other things such as arrangements are not catalogued. Hope that answers your question.
Um... question: where does one learn to write fugues or even counter point for that matter? I'm a music student and I've taken all the music theory I can take at college and counter point hasn't even been mentioned and I'd love to starting writing fugues.
dakrushel 1 week ago
@dakrushel I am not sure if fugue composition is taught in university anymore, since it is such an ancient form (at least not where I study), and "supposedly" has few applications in this modern world. I would recommend looking at Bach's works and analyses. But before that, you need a strong background in harmony and counterpoint. I learned those through private lessons on the theoretical component of the Royal Conservatory of Music system in Canada. Where do you go to school for music?
zeryx28 1 week ago
@zeryx28 I'm attending a small college in Canada. I've got tonal harmony pretty well nailed down now but I know nothing of counterpoint though I have a measure of familiarity with Bach, especially his organ works. Was there anything along the lines of a textbook for contrapuntal theory or composition and if so, where could I find it?
dakrushel 1 week ago
Very good.
setbyserver 5 months ago
played faster it would also be a gigue..,-)
IldivoRenatello 7 months ago
You care talent, gorgeous and handsome. Are you an emigrant from HK? I ahve difficult in downloading this peice. Can you help me? Thanks. 多謝!
MrEbaby2010 10 months ago
@MrEbaby2010 Haha thanks. No I was born in Canada, but my parents are from HK. The score isn't on my website, so if you would like a copy, please PM me your e-mail and I'd gladly send it to you. Cheers.
zeryx28 10 months ago
@MrEbaby2010 Actually, I just checked my website and yes, the score is there. When you say "difficulty in downloading this piece" do you mean the score or an audio recording, or the slideshow video itself?
zeryx28 10 months ago
@zeryx28 I ahve just downloaded the hard copy (score). Thanks for your beautiful composition. BTW, do you speak Cantonese and write Chinese. If yes, let's communcate in Chinese next time. for a more vivid discussion.
MrEbaby2010 10 months ago
@zeryx28 I ahve just downloaded the hard copy (score). Thanks for your beautiful composition. BTW, do you speak Cantonese and write Chinese. If yes, let's communcate in Chinese next time. for a more vivid discussion. In factr, I am deeply impressed by your fugal writing 'Nokia fugue'.
MrEbaby2010 10 months ago
I"m working on several fugues, too, and I can say that this is one of the better fugues I've heard! I generally write for strings (I'm a violinist) but have tried piano, too. Unfortunately I do tend to have problems when I get stuck, and often I can't get more than one minute out of a subject. Any advice?
Ilkeyrion 1 year ago
@Ilkeyrion Kudos for writing fugues. I have the same problem of length of the composition when it comes to fugue. I find it helps to lay out an overall structure and plan each of the entries well. Depending on how versatile your subject is, the number of different configurations may vary. Example: Exposition, bridge, subject accompanied with bridge material, ..., re-exposition, subject with pedal. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier provides lots of innovative ideas. Cheers.
zeryx28 1 year ago
Counterpoint must be your second native language.
It's very nice to see that someone has sense of the finest art of music these days.
LukBartosUB 1 year ago
good
googlekopfkind 1 year ago
The pedal makes a very interesting end to this beautiful fugue. The use of a cryptogrammic fugue theme sounds particularly familiar to me! Extremely well written, congratulations. I look forward to listen to your next composition.
Daniel
tocalpianix 2 years ago 4
ummm... Bach? :?P i'm just having trouble processing the idea that anyone alive today could craft something of such intricacy and perfection. Vincent, you've outdone yourself again! :D any advice for the amateur fugue writer?
peteralaric 2 years ago 5
@peteralaric Haha, that's very flattering. Bach is my hero. :) (Well, one of several. Mily Balakirev is another composer whom I hold to high regard.)
For me, much of fugue writing is by luck. I almost follow these same steps whenever I attempt to write a fugue: (i) Come up with a subject that sounds interesting on its own and perhaps as its inversion. (ii) Countersubject (CS). (iii) Try to extend the subject canonically for some length. (iv) Try to reuse the CS. (v) Reuse pre-existing motifs.
zeryx28 2 years ago
But when I look at a bach piece that uses retrogradation, inverted canon, or mensuration canon, I am beyond words. @___@
zeryx28 2 years ago
uh... yeah, you just caused me to do a little Wikipedia-ing, and i would have to agree with you. it's hard enough to write music that sounds good when played ~forwards~ and ~right side up~, much less in all directions! :?P
thanks for the advice re: fugue writing. i intend to take it to heart.
p.s.: the ending of this fugue is magic. very nicely done.
peteralaric 2 years ago
you really have to pay close attention to count how many tmes the theme appears!
I'm trying... lol This is such an interesting idea! With awesome results! wowow
XxSarah
songpidgeon 2 years ago
Great! I particulary love how you mix all the minor modes (I don't know how you say these in english...). Great ideas! just great ;)
Mtoutex 2 years ago 2
you made this?
XaldBalghostriped 2 years ago 3
@XaldBalghostriped Yes, I am the composer of this piece of music. :)
zeryx28 2 years ago
cool... you're awesome
what is opus btw?
XaldBalghostriped 2 years ago
@XaldBalghostriped Thanks. :)
Opus just means "composition." Composers often use "Opus #" to catalogue their compositions for chronological reference. Some composers choose to catalogue only selected pieces of music. In my case, I only catalogue performance art music. Other things such as arrangements are not catalogued. Hope that answers your question.
zeryx28 2 years ago
Cool..
thnx!
XaldBalghostriped 2 years ago
Oh wow! This is awesome Vincent! Thanks so much!!! :D
Sycra 2 years ago 3