These guys were on the right path when they said that the media doesn't think like us (the average American). That disconnect is brought about by the fact that they (media) all attended the same bastion of looney left programing "schools". Therein lies the same disconnect presented in the democratic party for the same reason. Don't eat all of the rich, eat the rich left looney professors.
Sounds like you are the one who has been indoctrinated by loony people. PJTV is a shitepile started by a Hollywood failure who rebranded himself as a conservative since his stuff was so bad, no one wanted it. So now he plays the conservative victim of liberal oppression in Hollywood
@DawnOfTheDead991 I could care less where PJTV came from, what their motives are, or where they are going, the bottom lime is that message imparted in this video is 100% correct, The fact that it came out of a monkey's ass would not make it less so.
God gave us common sence and my common sence tells me to put two in the chest and one in the head of any motherfucker who try's to take my life or my family's life this man gives me hope for this country proud to be from the south
"If your enemy comes to kill you, kill him first." That goes for individuals as well as groups and nations. That goes for the armed burglar, al qaeda, and Iran. It is not saintly to allow yourself to be slaughtered. CNN anchors need to realize that most of us do not live in the penthouse suite of a secured condo.
Who needs an AK47 for home defense?!? Isn't that a "Man Caused Disaster" maker's weapon? What kind of person would want an AK47 next to their bed?!?!? Who does that?
Oh my God there's an AK47 next to my bed!!! How did that get there?!? And there's an AR15 on the other side too!!! Where did those things come from?!?!?
Oh that's right, I bought them and put them there. (And the AK makes a pretty good "in case of terrorists" weapon!)
I really wish I was in the market for a new truck!
Socialism, Marxism, Communisim have drenched this earths soil with blood far more than Capitalism ever has. Once the gov. has a hand in Capitalism, there is no more free market or free enterprise. Capitalism will only work when the gov. stays out of it.
No he did not, but he did command his disciples to sell the cloths off there back if need be to purchase a sword. See Luke 22:36. Christ didn't need a sword first because no man could harm him unless it was the will of the Father for it to be so and two he had 12 armed bodyguards with him, his Apostles.
@ViCe1986 But his disciples were unarmed. As well as the early Christians were ardent pacifists who lived a simple life of communal poverty, much like a monk would to this day.
Read the New Testament Christ clearly instructs his disciples at the Last Supper to sell there garments and buy a sword if they don't have one already, and Peter and the Apostles were armed bodyguards of Christ. In Peter himself Chief Apostle and future prophet of the Church attacked the guard in Gethsemane, not to mention Christ beating men with a whip in John 2.
Read the Bible Christ advocated self defense except during his crucifiction, he told them to SUFFER that.
Self defense is a mental illness?? Well if the US Constitution and the Holy Word of God is a mental disease then I am proud to be insane in the membrane!
@ViCe1986 I never thought self defense is a mental illness, But getting too paranoid and defensive is not a good way to live. It is still pretty safe in the USA. It ain't Stalingrad, yet
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the Holy Word of God. I study the sacred scriptures and do recall there important teachings throughout the day.
Also learn your psychology, Schizophrenia is not hearing voices, it is a paranoid state where the patient feels that some ambitious body or organization it trying to harm or personally undermine them constantly. In VERY VERY rare cases is accompanied by audio and visual hallucinations.
Declaring that the CIA is planting tiny sores in my head to take control of my mind, is schizophrenic.
Hallucinations are not uncommon, a good whack to the head can cause temporary or long term auditory and/or visual hallucinations. Also they can be cause by intoxication of various legal and illegal drugs, as well as moderate to severe sleep deprivation.
Contrary to your false opinion, hallucinations are not rare in any society, and rarely root from mental illness.
@ViCe1986 ........Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[
How could we expect you to get anything correct as you still believe in Santa christ. how can you study scriptures and believe that shit...except this one about your mom....Ezekiel 2320
@ViCe1986 Jesus even said to "sell your cloak and buy a sword" Luke 22:36 and thats what I would of told that retarded reporter when she asked that stupid question.
I strongly disagree, his Apostles were armed and he prevented them from stopping his capture and crucifixion. Had he desired he could of prevented this, but he fully submitted to the will of the Father and drank the bitter cup so man could be redeemed and inherit life eternal by obeying Christ's commandment's.
Never underestimate the power of Hillary, she is the kryptonite to commonsense and leadership. Very deadly to non liberals if exposed in prolonged doses.
@kidluna Yeah. Have you read the news? Have you read what his political convictions are? They don't exist. Have you read anything about his opinions, behavior, etc? Either you are a totally brainwashed or a dumbass.
@kidluna Yes, I don't think anyone is to blame for the actions of a crazy person. Accept for maybe his family who didn't get him the help he needed or local law enforcement who did nothing with him. The politics of the country didn't get him to pull that trigger you moron.
Seeing that he was a psychotic young man that had no current political ideology but previously declared himself a liberal. Yes, I see absolutely no connection at all, even in the faintest with the conservatives, the Republican Party, or the Tea Party movement at all in any way shape or form.
If you have a better case of blaming the liberals since he claimed to be a liberal.
Seeing that the Tucson shooter was a socialist/Marxist, I fail to see how conservatives are to blame if anyone is to blame for this it is the Democrat's Liberal militant wing.
The Tuscon shooter was not a socialist Marxist, which seems to be what a dimwit teabagger woudl call anyone not a fellow teabagger. He was a psycho who did it for a totally insane reasons because he was NUTS.
@DawnOfTheDead991 I agree with you that the Tuscon shooter was insane, plain and simple. Don't forget that within HOURS of the shooting, left wing hacks like Paul Krugman were trying to blame it on Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. We call liberals PeeBaggers now by the way...thanks to your Socialist Marxist Occupy Wall Street goons for Peeing in public parks and being exponentially more destructive and obstuctive to peoples lives who have actual jobs, than there ever was at a Tea Party rally.
@ourben Is that why the US is still one of the most powerful nations, and most free nation in the world? If you look at the history of the US you will find that although have been, still are stupid people in the US but many are extremely smart and if not for the US the world would be a much darker place and that is a fact
@ourben you stated that the US was stupid, I demonstrated why it is not b/c a stupid country could not have done 1/4, thats being generous, of what the US has done. England has an important history as do all countries, it is the leaders that ruin them. From your comment I understand it as saying America is a waste of space and all its people are stupid, a very bigoted statement. Just b/c you don't agree with someone doesn't make them stupid.
@ace098765431 No. The US is very, very stupid. Don't get me wrong, there are things I like about America... Canada, Mexico and leaving.
But seriously, I don't think America is a waste of space. I think half the Americans in it are. You have the greatest people in the world, and the worst people in the world. That is why the US is stupid. It's simultaneous good and bad, but really huge.
Like Michael Jackson, he IS America. Enormously talented musician, fucks kids. That's how the world sees you.
@ourben I'm pretty sure that people like the Hamas, terrorist groups, the North Koran govt, and Middle Eastern govts that kill people b/c they don't beleive in Islam are the worst.
@ourben Can you please be specific on the "horrible things" B/c last time I checked the US abolished slavery, help win WWI and WWII, passed the Civil Rights act, invted the radio, TV, created the automoble industry, created the first microchips, and also created the Internet, just to name a few things. Also are we not the ones that help other countries such Hatti, the countries affected by the Tsunami, to name just a few.
@ace098765431 If the US was so great, the civil rights act (enacted long after European countries had set the precedent) wouldn't have been needed. Baird invented TV. Tesla invented radio. Turing invented the computer. Ford was the only one you got almost right. Countries all over the world assist each other. The US nuked Japan, pays for Israel's incineration of Palestinian civilians and instigated the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@ourben See Telsa was in the US when he invented the radio, also was not television mass produced in the US and offered compitition to the ones in UK? You are right in that countries all over the world assist each other. So you would rather have US soliders invade Japan, a nation in which it told its citizens to fight to last man, woman, and child, and in the end their would have been more deaths without the nukes. Mind you the US warned Japan and Japan did not listen the first time.
@ace098765431 How are you calculating that there would have been more deaths? That bomb indiscriminately decimated CIVILIANS. We needn't mention the fallout...
@ourben oh my, well lets see if we had invaded Japan then we would have to fight at every single city that we pass in Japan, killilng men, women, and children b/c they would fight back. What about Japan not surrendering the first time the nuke was dropped on them, its b/c the Japanese govt was willing to sacrifice everyone to win and their was also a foiled plot that Japanese generals had to ensure that Japan would continue to fight despite have 2 nukes dropped on them.
@ace098765431 Well they didn't continue did they? So the entire fucking premise of your argument is fucking dead in the water. I cannot even make analogy of this. You are beyond absurd.
@ourben See Isreal is a democracy, the other middle eastern countries are theocratic, I think you got confused. Also I'm pretty sure that on many occations that middle eastern leaders have stated that Iseral is evil, that it should be destroyed, and that may of the religious leaders of Islam want to destroy Isreal. Also you are saying that little Iseral is major reason for all the problems in the middle east, like the public women beatings, stonings and children suicide bombers?
@ace098765431 You said yourself it's a Jewish state. D you actually know what a democracy is? You do know Judaism is a religion, don't you? Israel is a major contributor to all the crimes against persons you mention yes. I am saying that. I am saying that, and so are the firebombed corpses of Palestinian children.
@ourben Jewish is also a race and also you have to understand that the people in Iseral have more freedom in the entire middle east. Does Iseral go to far at times yes but after being threatened and constant terrorist attacks a country has to take action. Also which side is the one that uses children as human shields? Which is the side that has its leaders publicaly anounce that the holocaust is a hoax and threatens to NUKE its enemies?
@ace098765431 It's only a race if both (a) you believe definitive genetic races really exist and (b) you believe people choosing to convert to Judaism are members of that race. If you're still trying to work that out, you may as well stop - it's not actually possible. They are threatened mostly because they threaten their neighbours. You do know that Israel isn't a country that was discovered? It was stolen by British parliament after WWII and given to Z-type Jews as a reparation.
@ourben See there are Jews who don't blieve in Judism. Yeah it had nothing to do with mass genocide of a people, nor that the middle east was fighting each other for that same plot of land. See the middle east was still just as violent even before Iseral was created in that spot after WWII. You are right in that the UN did not make things easy and should be blamed for the poor job they did at country division.
@ace098765431 Then they're not Jews. They just have Jewish heritage. Israel should not have been formed the way it was. Christians got over not having a country. Jews almost had. The rest of the world was only waiting for Islam to grow the fuck up. Now it's all a big fucking mess of braindead idiots fighting each other over who's invisible friend has the biggest dick.
The Israeli administration is the kingmaker. They could effectively end their war against Palestine in a heartbeat.
@ourben No Israel can not, b/c the rest of the middle east wants to NUKE them from existance. If the other middle eastern countries would understand that everyone as the right to disagree with each other without killing them, then it would be a better place. The things is the healthcare bill past also implaments heavy regulation on private healthcare which has forced them to raise the rates inorder to still be open.
@ace098765431 On Israel, that's complete tripe. You can't punch somebody in the face and then when they hit you back say that's why you punched them in the first place. They are causing the friction. They need to grow up.
On private healthcare raising the rates, again, complete tripe. They raise the rates whenever they like because they're parasitic antisocial scumbags. They don't need to raise anything. They do it because they can.
@ourben You don't understand how private healthcare works at all. A company provides a service that allows them to make a profit, that profit is used to provide the service, pay for its workers, and expand. When the govt steps in and starts mandating how much a company must provide, more than what they usally provides. That company has to thus increase its rates for the increase in services provided inorder to maintain their company.
@ace098765431 You don't understand profit or business. Profits go to the fatcats who only do anything to get rich. Public heathcare isn't profit orientated and therefore cheaper by definition. The government has every right to tell them what they can and can't do. Healthcare, if you haven't noticed, is a matter of life and death.
@ourben See with Obamacare you can opt out of its service, but you still have to pay for it. ANd if you don't have insurance you will be fined $1000. Funny how most people in the US don't like Obamacare, and also that more people prefer private over public healthcare. No sometimes, depending on the cercumstances, some could go to a church and ask for help or a charity, or to their familes and friends for help. Also sometimes doctors are nice and help out if they can.
@ourben And also if these evil companies just raised the rates willy nilly they wouldn't have any customers at all, b/c then the customers would just go to another one that doesn't jack up the prices at will. Its called compitition, more compititon lower rates and better services unless the govt steps in and tries to force these companies to provide more services than noramally than they would.
@ourben Bravo from what you have described you prefer a communistic govt. Also you logic makes no sense. See profits are used to hep expand or improve a business, how else can a company grow and get better? If they don't have profits then it can't grow and it can't change to make itself better. In everything the govt does, Postal service, education, healthcare, and social security there is no profit and they are even falling short by billions. The got is enefficent you know that.
@ace098765431 No I haven't. The public sector is the best competition the private sector can get. Plus the public sector doesn't NEED profits you idiot. It can expand and get better whenever it likes. That's why civilised society (see also: the rest of the developed world) treasure it.
@ourben A business can't just randomly state I want to buy 8 office buildings without profits, b/c as I have stated before thats not how businesses work. The public sector HAS NO COMPITITION, theres only one provider; THE GOVT. Did you not see what happened to Cuba, and the USSR or to every single country that tried to take out the private sector.
@ourben The reason why public sector healhcare, and the like, are bad is b/c that means the govt is now in compitition with the private sector, and which sector is the one that makes all the laws, thats right the govt (the Public sector). So the govt can pass laws that would benefit the public sector and hurt the priavte sector, thats how Obamacare works.
@ourben You have to understand the difference b/w capitalism itself and the people who use it. You also have to understand that every time public/private partnerships formed it ends up bad, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Amtrak, Citidroup, the postal service. You see private corperations focus on making sure every dollar has a return, the govt makes sure that they help out the special intrest groups and get re-elected.
@ourben "the people support the govt, the govt should not support the people. Friendliness and charity of our countrymen can lways be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune...Federal aid in such cases encourages teh expectation of paternal care on the part of the govt and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct" Pres Grover Cleveland (Dem 1887)
@ourben You seem to be the one who does not understand what welfare is, I have showed you two people, a founding father, and a former pres who explain what welfare should mean, and what the constitution means when it says promote the general welfare, you have not explained what welfare means at all.
@ace098765431 No, you've carefully selected two quotes that don't support your argument.
welfare [noun]:
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1.
the good fortune, health, happiness, prosperity, etc., of a person, group, or organization; well-being: to look after a child's welfare; the physical or moral welfare of society.
@ourben You really don't understand do you. Both those peope I have quoted spoke specifically what promote the general welfare means IN THE CONSTITUTION. Its the responibility of the people to look out for one other, to help each other out in times of trouble, not soly rely on govt to fix every problem that they have.
@ace098765431 Looking out for one another, helping each other out in times of trouble. Yeah, I can reconcile that with paying a meagre tax to ensure I do my part. Why can't you?
@ourben See when we pay taxes the govt spends the money, we don't. So the govt can use our tax dollars on any progam they deme fit, be it on bailouts, stimulus bills (both of which have failed), and so on. i understand that we have to pay taxes so the govt can exsist, but so far the govt has shown us that it does a terrible job of spending the money where it is needed most.
@ourben Not too mention that the more money you make the more taxes you pay. So if you work hard to get more money the govt takes more of your money and spends it on things you don't want.
@ace098765431 The more you earn the more you're taxed is wrong? What?
The government spends money on wars I don't want. Do you want wars? The government spends money on schools I don't need. Do you want to destroy schools?
@ourben Lets see, public schools-bad (as you well know) and we spend $122 billion on it, Postal service-bad lost $8.5 billion this year alone. Govt sucks at managing money, their loss is our tax money loss, money that could have been used to saved more lives. I understand that we need to pay taxes, but so far the US is bad at managing it. And also any system can be abused but not everyone in the private sector are evil, and many of those "evil" pirvate healthcare companies help save lives.
@ourben See if I work hard I earn $15 an hour, if I work harder I can earn $30 an hour, but that also means that more of my hard earn money is taken from me. See I thought you wanted everyone to be treated equally, and TAKING money just b/c you have more of it is not fair to those who have worked hard to earn it.
@ourben There are websties dedicated to showing others just how well the US spends our tax dollars. Type in Ferderal govt waste (for the US) and you will just how effective the US govt is on spendng tax dollars.
@ourben See when the US real debt is about 64 trillion dollars, and hundrends of billions of dollars are wasted on crap programs, it usually means something is extremely worng with the way govt is being run. I am not advoating that we over throw it, like some left radicals, I am simply stating that the govt has proven to be an unreliable body to trust your money to.
@ourben Seriously? Even though it was captialism that allowed the US to become the richest nation in the world? Even though it was the govt that kept on spending money on bad programes, giving money to CEOs who screwed up their own companies, and still you think that govt is the anwser?
@ourben No, I pretty sure that when the US started out capitalism push the US into prosparity, and China became rich when it stoped being communist and allowed free trade, and becoming more capitalistic.
@ace098765431 No it didn't. China became rich because China was communist while it's customers were capitalist. China will the become the new big capitalists and the USA will either edge further toward state dependency or further towards abject poverty. The Chinese workforce, who incidentally are rapidly unionising (see also: socialism), are making their wage demands heard. Capitalist USA wages have been dropping for years. Communist Chinas are increasing.
@ourben I thought you understood the difference b/w Communism and socalism. You are going to have to face facts capitalism, when it is not souless or when it is not super regulated, is best systems we have and helps nations prosper.
@ourben Sorry, but it seems the history of capitalism shows that it helps countries prosper. What caused the "money ills" was that both govt and people did not take care or managed their money responsibly.
@ourben actually it does, it just depends on how much captialism, or free the market is allowed to be. China is no longer technically communist. It has allowed a form of very regulated capitalism, so more like socialist China. Of course their people and govt still act in many ways like their still communist, with the internet blocks and putting people in jail who disagree with the govt. Also where did you get that USA wages are droping, didn't we incrase the minimum wage?
@ourben you can also do your part as well by volunteering, or helpng out by spending your money on charities that don't spend your money on things that you don't like, such as the military or "pointless" wars. No one feels good, or think they have helped the world when they pay their taxes
@ourben Are there companies that have greedy CEOs yes, but NOT ALL OF THEM. As for the Isreal thing, there these groups called terrorists that try and build bombs, and attack civilians, and in many cases these groups are funded by the muslem govts. I think when the terrorts stop attacking Isreal, govts stop threating them, stop using women and children as soliders and human shields, and allow people to express themselves freely without threat of death, then there can peace.
@ourben Yes you NEED profits, b/c you see when you make a product you put a certain amount of money in, the cost to build it, ship it, and sell, in hopes that you will get more money back than what you put in, thats how all businesses work. I make a product its costs 5$ to make I sell it and make $10 net profit of $5. I then use that profit to help buy food, a house, a car, and then also to invest and improve my production so I can make more and perhaps make it better. THATS HOW IT WORKS
@ace098765431 Yes I know that's how it works. What you refuse to acknowledge is that not all public sector industries need to make profit because they are funded systematically.
@ourben Yes they do, who else are they suppose have paychecks. See if a business makes a profit then it can be used to expand the govt or pay the owner's salary, then it wouldn't need to be funded. Please name one public sector industry that is sucessful, and that is not losing more money that it gains.
@ourben By your attitude towards private businesses, such as "private providers and in cahoots" and that "compitition is bull****" I had assumed that you just hate private businesses in gerernal. See if one private company is being unfair to its customers those customers go to a DIFFERENT private company, and the preivous one goes out of business thats how it works.
@ourben A little history lesson, in late 1940s the UN helps establish the country of Israel, dividing the lands b/w Israel and the Palastinians. Then Eypt, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and the Palastinians attacked Israel so as to stop them from being a country by attacking them in 1948. Israel won and took some land, however not all of the land that was given to the Palastinians, the rest was anexed by Eygpt and Jordan and niether country allowed the Palaistinans to form their own nation.
@ourben Did you not read the part where I said that where multiple countreis attacked Isreal first, then what lands remaind for the Palastinians was TAKEN by JORDAN and EYGPT, mind you these countries anexed those lands and refuesed to give those lands back to the Palastinians. Then attacked again, they striking first, in 1967 against Israel.
@ourben a private doctor's office vist in Canada can range at about $900. See they have been fighting for over 1000 years, we are beyond who punched first. Also I don't hear Isreal claiming to NUKE the other middle eastern countries, and they sure don't send women and children to kill their enemies. You understand that the middle eastern countries want to NUKE them from exsistance, use of atomic bombs to destroy every bit of Isreal down to the last child right?
@ace098765431 Private healthcare is a rip off. Whose side are you on? They are not beyond it, because Israel IS IMPLEMENTING IT!
Has Israel been nuked? NO. Does Palestine have nukes? NO. It's all talk mate. Israel needs to do the right thing and stop their racist massacre and you need to stop believing things because they make life comfortable.
@ourben Also Israel is has not been nuked b/c I think it is defending itself rather well. Also when a group of people, men, women, and children attack Israely soliders with rocks, knives, and/or guns what choice do they but defend themseleves, esspecially when these people are suicide bombers. Is Israel to blame for the corrupt, intolerant, theocracy of the middle eastern govts? Also it was Jordan and Eygpt that anexed the rest of the Palastinian lands, so their real beef should be with them.
@ace098765431 It hasn't been nuked because NOBODY WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO IT!
Wow, children attack invading soldiers with rocks and knives, what terrible little children they are. When I come to your house and rape your sister, I can trust you'll sit down quietly and watch TV then, right?
@ourben Oh so the common Israel solider just walks in and decides to rape random people. And straping bombs to kids and women thats fine is b/c those evil jews are just plan evil. Using hospitals and schools as miliatry bases, where else can terrorists meet up and plot to destroy those evil jews. Sorry but Im sideing with the country that doesn't publicly exicute people who say they don't believe in Muhamd, use kids as soliders and human shields, see women as 2nd class humans.
@ace098765431 Palestine as a country does not do those things. I'm fucking stunned that you're still contesting this point about trained killers having the right to defend themselves in somebody else's country by killing children from the air with illegal incendiary weapons.
@ourben What is more with public healthcare, if someone is already paying for private healtcare they have to pay for the public healthcare in their taxes, so they are paying for a service they are not using, that is not fair. If you think all private healthcare businesses are so bad then why not just have the public healthcare? Well you know the answer, its b/c usally the govt sucks at spending money where its most needed and likes to spend it on things we don't agree with.
@ourben You seem to see only the negative in the US and ignore all the good it has actually done. The US has done more good than bad and the bad that the US did do has and continues to correct them.
@ourben oh yes bad things needto be addressed, however it is just as important to look back and see how in the past those same bad things were dealt with. Learning from the past both how the bad things happen AND what was doen to correct them.
@ourben now did the US do bad things, yes but we then corrected those mistakes. I think the US has done a great deal for the world already. Also if don't like the US then why not just leave if it is so full of stupid people. Of course you might not want to go to Mexico, they are fighting a war with the drug cartels, as for Canada well it is nice but they have their own problems, healthcare being one of them (see Steven Crowder's video on Canadian Healthcare).
@ourben The US has healthcare to. Also if you watch video I mentioned earlier you would see that most people in Canada have to wait 2-10 hours to see a doctor, not including the time it takes to see nurse. See Canada garentees that you will get a doctor, its when you will be able to see the doctor thats the trick. Of course public healthcare is also super expensive which is why so many countries in Europe are having problems with debt.
@ace098765431 Public healthcare is cheaper. I'm not a complete idiot. Either stop lying or research properly. The US per capita pay twice what Canadians do. Which is even more embarrassing when consider that everyone in Canada has access. Waiting times are not ideal, but it beats a cash lockout infinitely - it's not even an argument. I'm fucking stunned that you think it is.
@ourben IF that is the case then why are the countries in Europe having money problems and why is the UK trying to deminish its public healthcare program? A man with a broken clavical bone had to wait 7 hrs to see a doctor, you should very well know that time is a major factor when dealing with sick people. Also you have people who raise money, by charity or help from friends and family that allow them to afford the treatment.
@ace098765431 The US is having money problems. The entire western world is reeling from the problem US banks and US deregulation created. The UK is destroying it's public healthcare because a right wing fascist administration without the mandate to govern is smashing it to pieces. One person waiting a long time doesn't mean the whole system is bad, neither does it mean it's ideologically defunct. At least he isn't paying on the door for it. Yeah we have charities, so do you. What is your point?
@ourben True one person waiting a long time doesn't mean the whole system is bad, however when the majority of the people have to wait 2-10 hours and not can't see a doctor on weekends, there is a major problem. See it might be good in theory, however as we are seeing it does not work in real life. I am saying that charities can help families pay for medical bills, unlike in some places where you have the promise of it but have to wait a 6 months to have an appointment.
@ace098765431 I'm taking my mum to see a doctor at 9AM tomorrow. She called this afternoon and made an appointment. It was no hassle at all. It works in real like. It could be better, don't get me wrong. But the way to fix is not to take it away and move to a solely private system. For example, if we weren't invested in Afghanistan, we could easily pour that money into home affairs and pull waiting lists down.
@ourben Indeed the healthcare system needs to be fixed, however going completely govt run is not the answer, b/c govt likes to money and spend it on things we don't agree on as you have stated. So we both agree that the US did great things, I just think that the US has done more good than bad, and the bad that it has done it has tried to correct.
@ace098765431 The bad it has done is truly terrible to be fair. Nobody wants a solely public healthcare system. They just want a complete one. Private providers can still do what they like in countries with public healthcare. It's no different to what the US has, they have two systems. We have what you have and we have an NHS.
@ourben Also Lets see we have Israel, the only Jewish nation in the world and the only real democratic nation in the middle east, surrounded by countries that want to nuke them off the face of the earth and believe that the holocaust was a lie. Also Israel is fighting terrorist organizations that target civilians and use women and children as suicide bombers. Not too mention that people in Israel have more freedom than their next door neighbors.
@ace098765431 You squashed your own argument with that opener. It's not democratic if it is theocratic. Do you know the difference? Oh you do? Then how are you reconciling it?
Holocaust deniers are a minority. Zionists, also a minority, are the driving force for most if not all of the aggression toward Israel. Israel's neighbours have less freedom because of Israel.
Whose side are you even on man? Whose side do you think it is you're defending?
@ourben He is correct. Jesus could call down "12 legions of angels" any time He wanted to, and it only took ONE angel to kill 186,000 Assyrians in one night. Not that He'd need the help of angels since He created everything that exists, both visible and invisible, so with a single word He could send anything/anyone He wanted into oblivion. Instead He came in love and mercy.If America is stupid, it is because they have turned their back on God and now worship idols, such as Government, Obama etc.
@ourben "mentally unhinged"? LOL. And you know this to be true because...? If it's because I believe the bible, then that makes about 2 billion people alive today also "mentally unhinged". It must be pretty scary to live in a world where 1 of 3 people is "mentally unhinged"? Since you live in the USA, it's worse - 4 out of 5 people around you are "mentally unhinged". That's a frightening place to be, is it not?
@ourben OK. I made two assumptions. One is that you called me "mentally unhinged" because I believe the Bible, and secondly that you would be afraid of someone who is "mentally unhinged". If the former is not true, then please elaborate on why you consider me to be "mentally unhinged". If the latter is not true, then you have nothing to fear. According to the Bible, Christians are to live peaceably with everyone as much as possible.
@13KJQ The most contemptible people are conservative Christian like you: hatefilled, greedy little creeps who hide behind religion. If you have all that faith, why do you need all those guns and material possessions? You give decent Christians a bad name. Who are all those people worshiping Obama and the government? You are just projecting your childish fanaticism on others.
@DawnOfTheDead991 Ouch. I think you're doing a little generalizing and projecting of your own? I for one have no firearms, and live in a modest rented house with my wife and two sons. By "worshiping" I mean basically who or what one looks to as their principal provider. From the Christian perspective it is either God or an idol. The idol can be the government, a leader, or some other group. From what I can tell many people in the west look to their government for "answers" to their "problems".
@DawnOfTheDead991 I am indeed hate filled and greedy. Not sure what a "little creep" is but no doubt I've "creeped out" someone in my life. The thing is, as a bible believing Christian I know that ALL mankind are hate filled and greedy. Because I've acknowledged Christ as Lord, He has forgiven me for my hate and greed, and empowers me day by day to be less hateful and less greedy. We are commanded to love our enemies, and to be generous to others, especially the poor.
@DawnOfTheDead991 One last thing. No true Christian will tell you they're without sin. This is why God choosing flawed, defective, sinful people to spread the message of the gospel is so amazing. The expression "don't shoot the messenger" never was so fitting as it is to Christians speaking with non-Christians. If your house is on fire and a serial-rapist, murderer bangs on your door and yells "fire!", his character doesn't make the truth he is stating any less true.
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." Western Washington has suffered a rash of home invasions lately. Some of the homeowners were armed, some were not: but it is curious how little the citizen who survives because he fights back is congratulated. I can't feel sorry because a young man invades another's home and meets an early death. I pity him. Whether he had bad friends, or a meth problem, or was a thoroughly bad man, he made a choice, and it went wrong for him.
The Liberal agenda is... to crush all of what can maintain the existence of good so as to automatically allow for the continued flourishing of evil. What they truly choose to ignore, is that complete eventual evil can only lead to complete annihilation!
"Did not have legal guns" is the key phrase. This is why gun control [to which liberals are always constantly trying to push] would NEVER WORK. Why are you restraining the person/victim's chance of defending himself while not even denting the chance of a robber/murderer's chance of killing them? Great logic liberals.... great logic.
Ask yourself if they take away guns from good citizens does that also mean you are taking guns away from the criminals? A little known fact criminals don't follow the rules (They are Criminals they break the rules) Also if you were a Criminal would you break in a house you know that the people there have guns?I don't think so..
There is a terrible epidemic of people coming through your door and killing your family. That is why it is so important to protect against that. I must have had someone walk through my door and kill my family several times this morning.
@AEgamesFtw : Tell me about it. What about those pussies living in fear with their smoke detectors and fire extinguishers, or the idiots wearing their seat belts every day? I didn't die in a car accident yesterday and my house didn't burn down today. Nothing bad ever happens. Unicorns and rainbows everywhere
conservative genocide 2012...or rapture. in terms you inbreds will git...
milorosen 5 days ago
These guys were on the right path when they said that the media doesn't think like us (the average American). That disconnect is brought about by the fact that they (media) all attended the same bastion of looney left programing "schools". Therein lies the same disconnect presented in the democratic party for the same reason. Don't eat all of the rich, eat the rich left looney professors.
romeotangohotel 1 month ago
Sounds like you are the one who has been indoctrinated by loony people. PJTV is a shitepile started by a Hollywood failure who rebranded himself as a conservative since his stuff was so bad, no one wanted it. So now he plays the conservative victim of liberal oppression in Hollywood
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
@DawnOfTheDead991 I could care less where PJTV came from, what their motives are, or where they are going, the bottom lime is that message imparted in this video is 100% correct, The fact that it came out of a monkey's ass would not make it less so.
romeotangohotel 2 weeks ago
God gave us common sence and my common sence tells me to put two in the chest and one in the head of any motherfucker who try's to take my life or my family's life this man gives me hope for this country proud to be from the south
TheAngelofvengance 3 months ago
"If your enemy comes to kill you, kill him first." That goes for individuals as well as groups and nations. That goes for the armed burglar, al qaeda, and Iran. It is not saintly to allow yourself to be slaughtered. CNN anchors need to realize that most of us do not live in the penthouse suite of a secured condo.
koyunbaba73 4 months ago
Watch as the mainstream media bitch tries to slant the story, not report it. CNN sucks.
iceviper6215 5 months ago
I LOVE THE GUY...WOOHOO
beasley1987 7 months ago
Who needs an AK47 for home defense?!? Isn't that a "Man Caused Disaster" maker's weapon? What kind of person would want an AK47 next to their bed?!?!? Who does that?
Oh my God there's an AK47 next to my bed!!! How did that get there?!? And there's an AR15 on the other side too!!! Where did those things come from?!?!?
Oh that's right, I bought them and put them there. (And the AK makes a pretty good "in case of terrorists" weapon!)
I really wish I was in the market for a new truck!
futuresonex 7 months ago
Socialism, Marxism, Communisim have drenched this earths soil with blood far more than Capitalism ever has. Once the gov. has a hand in Capitalism, there is no more free market or free enterprise. Capitalism will only work when the gov. stays out of it.
420hartless5150 9 months ago 3
Who tf are "some people"?
thebamf100 9 months ago
"YOU don't have a problem with God, do you?!"
Priceless!
Praie God and pass the ammunition....maybe for a combo Glaad rally and target practice!Just kidding....a little.
Rextrent 10 months ago
@Rextrent Serj tanken?
idontneedaname85 10 months ago
Best line EVER:
CNN: "Would Jesus carry a Gun?"
Awesome Guy: "No, they didn't have guns back then."
The guy is my hero of the hour!
ViCe1986 10 months ago 24
@ViCe1986
I say from now on he is to be called "Epic God/gun guy".
RetSquid 8 months ago 2
@ViCe1986 Jesus didn't carry a sword or a spear, which they did have back then.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991
No he did not, but he did command his disciples to sell the cloths off there back if need be to purchase a sword. See Luke 22:36. Christ didn't need a sword first because no man could harm him unless it was the will of the Father for it to be so and two he had 12 armed bodyguards with him, his Apostles.
ViCe1986 6 months ago
@ViCe1986 But his disciples were unarmed. As well as the early Christians were ardent pacifists who lived a simple life of communal poverty, much like a monk would to this day.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991
Read the New Testament Christ clearly instructs his disciples at the Last Supper to sell there garments and buy a sword if they don't have one already, and Peter and the Apostles were armed bodyguards of Christ. In Peter himself Chief Apostle and future prophet of the Church attacked the guard in Gethsemane, not to mention Christ beating men with a whip in John 2.
Read the Bible Christ advocated self defense except during his crucifiction, he told them to SUFFER that.
ViCe1986 6 months ago
@ViCe1986 If reading the Bible or being a Christian makes me into some lunatic like you, I'll pass.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991
Self defense is a mental illness?? Well if the US Constitution and the Holy Word of God is a mental disease then I am proud to be insane in the membrane!
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 I never thought self defense is a mental illness, But getting too paranoid and defensive is not a good way to live. It is still pretty safe in the USA. It ain't Stalingrad, yet
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
Where did you hear the Holy Word of God, in your head? Hearing voices in your head is a sign of mental illness, called schizophrenia
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
@DawnOfTheDead991
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the Holy Word of God. I study the sacred scriptures and do recall there important teachings throughout the day.
Also learn your psychology, Schizophrenia is not hearing voices, it is a paranoid state where the patient feels that some ambitious body or organization it trying to harm or personally undermine them constantly. In VERY VERY rare cases is accompanied by audio and visual hallucinations.
Declaring the CIA is planting
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
Declaring that the CIA is planting tiny sores in my head to take control of my mind, is schizophrenic.
Hallucinations are not uncommon, a good whack to the head can cause temporary or long term auditory and/or visual hallucinations. Also they can be cause by intoxication of various legal and illegal drugs, as well as moderate to severe sleep deprivation.
Contrary to your false opinion, hallucinations are not rare in any society, and rarely root from mental illness.
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 ........Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[
How could we expect you to get anything correct as you still believe in Santa christ. how can you study scriptures and believe that shit...except this one about your mom....Ezekiel 2320
milorosen 5 days ago
@ViCe1986 Jesus even said to "sell your cloak and buy a sword" Luke 22:36 and thats what I would of told that retarded reporter when she asked that stupid question.
txm4gunnut 6 months ago
@ViCe1986 If Jesus did have a gun he probably wouldn't have been crucified.
AynRandRevolution 3 weeks ago
@AynRandRevolution
I strongly disagree, his Apostles were armed and he prevented them from stopping his capture and crucifixion. Had he desired he could of prevented this, but he fully submitted to the will of the Father and drank the bitter cup so man could be redeemed and inherit life eternal by obeying Christ's commandment's.
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@AynRandRevolution What if he had a jet fighter bomber?
DawnOfTheDead991 2 weeks ago
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STEVEN CROWDER DRINKS HIS MAN CHOWDER!
np001 11 months ago
@np001 You wish.
MerlinsJester 10 months ago
Its a little weird to see Bill Whittle as the host and not one of the two guys on the side.
superlucci 11 months ago
lady, it's an interview, not countodwn with olbermann
SteelandSouls15 11 months ago
@NJburbsSeeker Just get a really big nightstand. :)
jesusfanatic07 11 months ago
Did I hear Steven Green seggest a mortar for home defense?
jesusfanatic07 1 year ago
@jesusfanatic07 Yeah but how can you fit in your night stand?
NJburbsSeeker 11 months ago
@jesusfanatic07 I would, that would be awsome
Valdrag 11 months ago
@jesusfanatic07
That's for the zombie apocalypse, don't waste the mortar on the burglars just use the AK.
That's what we call using proportionate force.
ViCe1986 10 months ago
@ViCe1986 So whats the 205mm cannon under my bed for?
jesusfanatic07 10 months ago
@jesusfanatic07
In case Hilliary Clinton attacks?
ViCe1986 10 months ago
@ViCe1986 LOL what would she do, annoy me to death? I do like the way you think though.
jesusfanatic07 10 months ago
@jesusfanatic07
Never underestimate the power of Hillary, she is the kryptonite to commonsense and leadership. Very deadly to non liberals if exposed in prolonged doses.
ViCe1986 10 months ago
@jesusfanatic07
Yes, which is why he is my new role model!
ViCe1986 6 months ago
and the conservatives are blameless for what happened in Tucson?
kidluna 1 year ago
@kidluna Yeah. Have you read the news? Have you read what his political convictions are? They don't exist. Have you read anything about his opinions, behavior, etc? Either you are a totally brainwashed or a dumbass.
Evangeline220 1 year ago
@kidluna Yes, I don't think anyone is to blame for the actions of a crazy person. Accept for maybe his family who didn't get him the help he needed or local law enforcement who did nothing with him. The politics of the country didn't get him to pull that trigger you moron.
NJburbsSeeker 11 months ago
@kidluna
Seeing that he was a psychotic young man that had no current political ideology but previously declared himself a liberal. Yes, I see absolutely no connection at all, even in the faintest with the conservatives, the Republican Party, or the Tea Party movement at all in any way shape or form.
If you have a better case of blaming the liberals since he claimed to be a liberal.
ViCe1986 10 months ago
@kidluna
Seeing that the Tucson shooter was a socialist/Marxist, I fail to see how conservatives are to blame if anyone is to blame for this it is the Democrat's Liberal militant wing.
ViCe1986 6 months ago
The Tuscon shooter was not a socialist Marxist, which seems to be what a dimwit teabagger woudl call anyone not a fellow teabagger. He was a psycho who did it for a totally insane reasons because he was NUTS.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991 I agree with you that the Tuscon shooter was insane, plain and simple. Don't forget that within HOURS of the shooting, left wing hacks like Paul Krugman were trying to blame it on Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. We call liberals PeeBaggers now by the way...thanks to your Socialist Marxist Occupy Wall Street goons for Peeing in public parks and being exponentially more destructive and obstuctive to peoples lives who have actual jobs, than there ever was at a Tea Party rally.
TheHosswood 1 month ago
"he was so powerful he didn't need any weapon"
America is the stupidest country in the history of the world.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Is that why the US is still one of the most powerful nations, and most free nation in the world? If you look at the history of the US you will find that although have been, still are stupid people in the US but many are extremely smart and if not for the US the world would be a much darker place and that is a fact
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 And it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for England. What do you think your point is?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben you stated that the US was stupid, I demonstrated why it is not b/c a stupid country could not have done 1/4, thats being generous, of what the US has done. England has an important history as do all countries, it is the leaders that ruin them. From your comment I understand it as saying America is a waste of space and all its people are stupid, a very bigoted statement. Just b/c you don't agree with someone doesn't make them stupid.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 No. The US is very, very stupid. Don't get me wrong, there are things I like about America... Canada, Mexico and leaving.
But seriously, I don't think America is a waste of space. I think half the Americans in it are. You have the greatest people in the world, and the worst people in the world. That is why the US is stupid. It's simultaneous good and bad, but really huge.
Like Michael Jackson, he IS America. Enormously talented musician, fucks kids. That's how the world sees you.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben I'm pretty sure that people like the Hamas, terrorist groups, the North Koran govt, and Middle Eastern govts that kill people b/c they don't beleive in Islam are the worst.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 They do horrible things yeah. But we expect a lot better from the US.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Can you please be specific on the "horrible things" B/c last time I checked the US abolished slavery, help win WWI and WWII, passed the Civil Rights act, invted the radio, TV, created the automoble industry, created the first microchips, and also created the Internet, just to name a few things. Also are we not the ones that help other countries such Hatti, the countries affected by the Tsunami, to name just a few.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 If the US was so great, the civil rights act (enacted long after European countries had set the precedent) wouldn't have been needed. Baird invented TV. Tesla invented radio. Turing invented the computer. Ford was the only one you got almost right. Countries all over the world assist each other. The US nuked Japan, pays for Israel's incineration of Palestinian civilians and instigated the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Try harder next time.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See Telsa was in the US when he invented the radio, also was not television mass produced in the US and offered compitition to the ones in UK? You are right in that countries all over the world assist each other. So you would rather have US soliders invade Japan, a nation in which it told its citizens to fight to last man, woman, and child, and in the end their would have been more deaths without the nukes. Mind you the US warned Japan and Japan did not listen the first time.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 How are you calculating that there would have been more deaths? That bomb indiscriminately decimated CIVILIANS. We needn't mention the fallout...
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben oh my, well lets see if we had invaded Japan then we would have to fight at every single city that we pass in Japan, killilng men, women, and children b/c they would fight back. What about Japan not surrendering the first time the nuke was dropped on them, its b/c the Japanese govt was willing to sacrifice everyone to win and their was also a foiled plot that Japanese generals had to ensure that Japan would continue to fight despite have 2 nukes dropped on them.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Well they didn't continue did they? So the entire fucking premise of your argument is fucking dead in the water. I cannot even make analogy of this. You are beyond absurd.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See Isreal is a democracy, the other middle eastern countries are theocratic, I think you got confused. Also I'm pretty sure that on many occations that middle eastern leaders have stated that Iseral is evil, that it should be destroyed, and that may of the religious leaders of Islam want to destroy Isreal. Also you are saying that little Iseral is major reason for all the problems in the middle east, like the public women beatings, stonings and children suicide bombers?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 You said yourself it's a Jewish state. D you actually know what a democracy is? You do know Judaism is a religion, don't you? Israel is a major contributor to all the crimes against persons you mention yes. I am saying that. I am saying that, and so are the firebombed corpses of Palestinian children.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Jewish is also a race and also you have to understand that the people in Iseral have more freedom in the entire middle east. Does Iseral go to far at times yes but after being threatened and constant terrorist attacks a country has to take action. Also which side is the one that uses children as human shields? Which is the side that has its leaders publicaly anounce that the holocaust is a hoax and threatens to NUKE its enemies?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 It's only a race if both (a) you believe definitive genetic races really exist and (b) you believe people choosing to convert to Judaism are members of that race. If you're still trying to work that out, you may as well stop - it's not actually possible. They are threatened mostly because they threaten their neighbours. You do know that Israel isn't a country that was discovered? It was stolen by British parliament after WWII and given to Z-type Jews as a reparation.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See there are Jews who don't blieve in Judism. Yeah it had nothing to do with mass genocide of a people, nor that the middle east was fighting each other for that same plot of land. See the middle east was still just as violent even before Iseral was created in that spot after WWII. You are right in that the UN did not make things easy and should be blamed for the poor job they did at country division.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Then they're not Jews. They just have Jewish heritage. Israel should not have been formed the way it was. Christians got over not having a country. Jews almost had. The rest of the world was only waiting for Islam to grow the fuck up. Now it's all a big fucking mess of braindead idiots fighting each other over who's invisible friend has the biggest dick.
The Israeli administration is the kingmaker. They could effectively end their war against Palestine in a heartbeat.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben No Israel can not, b/c the rest of the middle east wants to NUKE them from existance. If the other middle eastern countries would understand that everyone as the right to disagree with each other without killing them, then it would be a better place. The things is the healthcare bill past also implaments heavy regulation on private healthcare which has forced them to raise the rates inorder to still be open.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 On Israel, that's complete tripe. You can't punch somebody in the face and then when they hit you back say that's why you punched them in the first place. They are causing the friction. They need to grow up.
On private healthcare raising the rates, again, complete tripe. They raise the rates whenever they like because they're parasitic antisocial scumbags. They don't need to raise anything. They do it because they can.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben You don't understand how private healthcare works at all. A company provides a service that allows them to make a profit, that profit is used to provide the service, pay for its workers, and expand. When the govt steps in and starts mandating how much a company must provide, more than what they usally provides. That company has to thus increase its rates for the increase in services provided inorder to maintain their company.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 You don't understand profit or business. Profits go to the fatcats who only do anything to get rich. Public heathcare isn't profit orientated and therefore cheaper by definition. The government has every right to tell them what they can and can't do. Healthcare, if you haven't noticed, is a matter of life and death.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See with Obamacare you can opt out of its service, but you still have to pay for it. ANd if you don't have insurance you will be fined $1000. Funny how most people in the US don't like Obamacare, and also that more people prefer private over public healthcare. No sometimes, depending on the cercumstances, some could go to a church and ask for help or a charity, or to their familes and friends for help. Also sometimes doctors are nice and help out if they can.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 U.S. Constitution - Article I, Section 8
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben And also if these evil companies just raised the rates willy nilly they wouldn't have any customers at all, b/c then the customers would just go to another one that doesn't jack up the prices at will. Its called compitition, more compititon lower rates and better services unless the govt steps in and tries to force these companies to provide more services than noramally than they would.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 They have customers because before public healthcare there was no alternative for civilians. It was buy or die.
Competition is bullshit too. Private providers are all in cahoots. The best competition for the private sector is the government.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Bravo from what you have described you prefer a communistic govt. Also you logic makes no sense. See profits are used to hep expand or improve a business, how else can a company grow and get better? If they don't have profits then it can't grow and it can't change to make itself better. In everything the govt does, Postal service, education, healthcare, and social security there is no profit and they are even falling short by billions. The got is enefficent you know that.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 No I haven't. The public sector is the best competition the private sector can get. Plus the public sector doesn't NEED profits you idiot. It can expand and get better whenever it likes. That's why civilised society (see also: the rest of the developed world) treasure it.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben A business can't just randomly state I want to buy 8 office buildings without profits, b/c as I have stated before thats not how businesses work. The public sector HAS NO COMPITITION, theres only one provider; THE GOVT. Did you not see what happened to Cuba, and the USSR or to every single country that tried to take out the private sector.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 I didn't say take out the private sector. You need both. Stop putting words in my mouth and actually pay attention to what I'm saying.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben The reason why public sector healhcare, and the like, are bad is b/c that means the govt is now in compitition with the private sector, and which sector is the one that makes all the laws, thats right the govt (the Public sector). So the govt can pass laws that would benefit the public sector and hurt the priavte sector, thats how Obamacare works.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 You are wrong on just about everything. You have no idea what a right is or what welfare means.
Customers who aren't happy with a particular private company do not always have the liberty of choice.
Google "Firms fight move to obtain cheap anti-blindness drug Avastin"
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben You have to understand the difference b/w capitalism itself and the people who use it. You also have to understand that every time public/private partnerships formed it ends up bad, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Amtrak, Citidroup, the postal service. You see private corperations focus on making sure every dollar has a return, the govt makes sure that they help out the special intrest groups and get re-elected.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben "the people support the govt, the govt should not support the people. Friendliness and charity of our countrymen can lways be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune...Federal aid in such cases encourages teh expectation of paternal care on the part of the govt and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct" Pres Grover Cleveland (Dem 1887)
ace098765431 1 year ago
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@ace098765431 When was that from? Was it before the Civil Rights Act? Right. I thought so.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben You seem to be the one who does not understand what welfare is, I have showed you two people, a founding father, and a former pres who explain what welfare should mean, and what the constitution means when it says promote the general welfare, you have not explained what welfare means at all.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 No, you've carefully selected two quotes that don't support your argument.
welfare [noun]:
–noun
1.
the good fortune, health, happiness, prosperity, etc., of a person, group, or organization; well-being: to look after a child's welfare; the physical or moral welfare of society.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben You really don't understand do you. Both those peope I have quoted spoke specifically what promote the general welfare means IN THE CONSTITUTION. Its the responibility of the people to look out for one other, to help each other out in times of trouble, not soly rely on govt to fix every problem that they have.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Looking out for one another, helping each other out in times of trouble. Yeah, I can reconcile that with paying a meagre tax to ensure I do my part. Why can't you?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See when we pay taxes the govt spends the money, we don't. So the govt can use our tax dollars on any progam they deme fit, be it on bailouts, stimulus bills (both of which have failed), and so on. i understand that we have to pay taxes so the govt can exsist, but so far the govt has shown us that it does a terrible job of spending the money where it is needed most.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Be that as it may, it does not erase the fact that healthcare in private hands is exploited to further degree.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Not too mention that the more money you make the more taxes you pay. So if you work hard to get more money the govt takes more of your money and spends it on things you don't want.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 The more you earn the more you're taxed is wrong? What?
The government spends money on wars I don't want. Do you want wars? The government spends money on schools I don't need. Do you want to destroy schools?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Lets see, public schools-bad (as you well know) and we spend $122 billion on it, Postal service-bad lost $8.5 billion this year alone. Govt sucks at managing money, their loss is our tax money loss, money that could have been used to saved more lives. I understand that we need to pay taxes, but so far the US is bad at managing it. And also any system can be abused but not everyone in the private sector are evil, and many of those "evil" pirvate healthcare companies help save lives.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben See if I work hard I earn $15 an hour, if I work harder I can earn $30 an hour, but that also means that more of my hard earn money is taken from me. See I thought you wanted everyone to be treated equally, and TAKING money just b/c you have more of it is not fair to those who have worked hard to earn it.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben There are websties dedicated to showing others just how well the US spends our tax dollars. Type in Ferderal govt waste (for the US) and you will just how effective the US govt is on spendng tax dollars.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 A problem in government does not mean government is a problem.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben See when the US real debt is about 64 trillion dollars, and hundrends of billions of dollars are wasted on crap programs, it usually means something is extremely worng with the way govt is being run. I am not advoating that we over throw it, like some left radicals, I am simply stating that the govt has proven to be an unreliable body to trust your money to.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Capitalism caused all the money ills. You're trying to solve x by solving y.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Seriously? Even though it was captialism that allowed the US to become the richest nation in the world? Even though it was the govt that kept on spending money on bad programes, giving money to CEOs who screwed up their own companies, and still you think that govt is the anwser?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Did it though? Or did it make China the richest nation in the world?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben No, I pretty sure that when the US started out capitalism push the US into prosparity, and China became rich when it stoped being communist and allowed free trade, and becoming more capitalistic.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 No it didn't. China became rich because China was communist while it's customers were capitalist. China will the become the new big capitalists and the USA will either edge further toward state dependency or further towards abject poverty. The Chinese workforce, who incidentally are rapidly unionising (see also: socialism), are making their wage demands heard. Capitalist USA wages have been dropping for years. Communist Chinas are increasing.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben I thought you understood the difference b/w Communism and socalism. You are going to have to face facts capitalism, when it is not souless or when it is not super regulated, is best systems we have and helps nations prosper.
ace098765431 1 year ago 8
@ace098765431 What?
ourben 6 months ago
@ourben Sorry, but it seems the history of capitalism shows that it helps countries prosper. What caused the "money ills" was that both govt and people did not take care or managed their money responsibly.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 It doesn't help ubiquitously. That is key. You ignore it.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben actually it does, it just depends on how much captialism, or free the market is allowed to be. China is no longer technically communist. It has allowed a form of very regulated capitalism, so more like socialist China. Of course their people and govt still act in many ways like their still communist, with the internet blocks and putting people in jail who disagree with the govt. Also where did you get that USA wages are droping, didn't we incrase the minimum wage?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben you can also do your part as well by volunteering, or helpng out by spending your money on charities that don't spend your money on things that you don't like, such as the military or "pointless" wars. No one feels good, or think they have helped the world when they pay their taxes
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Well maybe they'll start feeling good when they know there taxes are saving lives.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Are there companies that have greedy CEOs yes, but NOT ALL OF THEM. As for the Isreal thing, there these groups called terrorists that try and build bombs, and attack civilians, and in many cases these groups are funded by the muslem govts. I think when the terrorts stop attacking Isreal, govts stop threating them, stop using women and children as soliders and human shields, and allow people to express themselves freely without threat of death, then there can peace.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Israel STARTED IT. Every time THEY START IT.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Yes you NEED profits, b/c you see when you make a product you put a certain amount of money in, the cost to build it, ship it, and sell, in hopes that you will get more money back than what you put in, thats how all businesses work. I make a product its costs 5$ to make I sell it and make $10 net profit of $5. I then use that profit to help buy food, a house, a car, and then also to invest and improve my production so I can make more and perhaps make it better. THATS HOW IT WORKS
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Yes I know that's how it works. What you refuse to acknowledge is that not all public sector industries need to make profit because they are funded systematically.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Yes they do, who else are they suppose have paychecks. See if a business makes a profit then it can be used to expand the govt or pay the owner's salary, then it wouldn't need to be funded. Please name one public sector industry that is sucessful, and that is not losing more money that it gains.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben By your attitude towards private businesses, such as "private providers and in cahoots" and that "compitition is bull****" I had assumed that you just hate private businesses in gerernal. See if one private company is being unfair to its customers those customers go to a DIFFERENT private company, and the preivous one goes out of business thats how it works.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ourben A little history lesson, in late 1940s the UN helps establish the country of Israel, dividing the lands b/w Israel and the Palastinians. Then Eypt, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and the Palastinians attacked Israel so as to stop them from being a country by attacking them in 1948. Israel won and took some land, however not all of the land that was given to the Palastinians, the rest was anexed by Eygpt and Jordan and niether country allowed the Palaistinans to form their own nation.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Congratulations. Now you know Israel's administration is handling stolen goods.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Did you not read the part where I said that where multiple countreis attacked Isreal first, then what lands remaind for the Palastinians was TAKEN by JORDAN and EYGPT, mind you these countries anexed those lands and refuesed to give those lands back to the Palastinians. Then attacked again, they striking first, in 1967 against Israel.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Yeah of course I read it. I just don't see what the point you think you're making is.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben if you have what we have then why is a private doctors office vist so expensive?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 "if you have what we have then why is a private doctors office vist so expensive?"
I have no idea what you are asking me. A private doctors office visit where? Where is it so expensive?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben a private doctor's office vist in Canada can range at about $900. See they have been fighting for over 1000 years, we are beyond who punched first. Also I don't hear Isreal claiming to NUKE the other middle eastern countries, and they sure don't send women and children to kill their enemies. You understand that the middle eastern countries want to NUKE them from exsistance, use of atomic bombs to destroy every bit of Isreal down to the last child right?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Private healthcare is a rip off. Whose side are you on? They are not beyond it, because Israel IS IMPLEMENTING IT!
Has Israel been nuked? NO. Does Palestine have nukes? NO. It's all talk mate. Israel needs to do the right thing and stop their racist massacre and you need to stop believing things because they make life comfortable.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Also Israel is has not been nuked b/c I think it is defending itself rather well. Also when a group of people, men, women, and children attack Israely soliders with rocks, knives, and/or guns what choice do they but defend themseleves, esspecially when these people are suicide bombers. Is Israel to blame for the corrupt, intolerant, theocracy of the middle eastern govts? Also it was Jordan and Eygpt that anexed the rest of the Palastinian lands, so their real beef should be with them.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 It hasn't been nuked because NOBODY WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO IT!
Wow, children attack invading soldiers with rocks and knives, what terrible little children they are. When I come to your house and rape your sister, I can trust you'll sit down quietly and watch TV then, right?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Oh so the common Israel solider just walks in and decides to rape random people. And straping bombs to kids and women thats fine is b/c those evil jews are just plan evil. Using hospitals and schools as miliatry bases, where else can terrorists meet up and plot to destroy those evil jews. Sorry but Im sideing with the country that doesn't publicly exicute people who say they don't believe in Muhamd, use kids as soliders and human shields, see women as 2nd class humans.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Palestine as a country does not do those things. I'm fucking stunned that you're still contesting this point about trained killers having the right to defend themselves in somebody else's country by killing children from the air with illegal incendiary weapons.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben What is more with public healthcare, if someone is already paying for private healtcare they have to pay for the public healthcare in their taxes, so they are paying for a service they are not using, that is not fair. If you think all private healthcare businesses are so bad then why not just have the public healthcare? Well you know the answer, its b/c usally the govt sucks at spending money where its most needed and likes to spend it on things we don't agree with.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Don't talk crap. You can opt out of public healthcare.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben You seem to see only the negative in the US and ignore all the good it has actually done. The US has done more good than bad and the bad that the US did do has and continues to correct them.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 I don't only see the negative. I only have a problem with the negative.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben What about the actions the US took to correct the negative, or do just ignore that as well?
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 No I don't ignore it. It's just that the bad things are a tad more pressing. Wouldn't you agree?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben oh yes bad things needto be addressed, however it is just as important to look back and see how in the past those same bad things were dealt with. Learning from the past both how the bad things happen AND what was doen to correct them.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Exactly. Look at history for the good and the bad. Civil Rights = good. The Federal Reserve = bad.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben now did the US do bad things, yes but we then corrected those mistakes. I think the US has done a great deal for the world already. Also if don't like the US then why not just leave if it is so full of stupid people. Of course you might not want to go to Mexico, they are fighting a war with the drug cartels, as for Canada well it is nice but they have their own problems, healthcare being one of them (see Steven Crowder's video on Canadian Healthcare).
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 At least Canada has healthcare. Where does the WHO rank the US amongst developed countries again? Isn't it, um, 37th?
See also: the 36 countries doing a better job taking care of their citizens.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben The US has healthcare to. Also if you watch video I mentioned earlier you would see that most people in Canada have to wait 2-10 hours to see a doctor, not including the time it takes to see nurse. See Canada garentees that you will get a doctor, its when you will be able to see the doctor thats the trick. Of course public healthcare is also super expensive which is why so many countries in Europe are having problems with debt.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 Public healthcare is cheaper. I'm not a complete idiot. Either stop lying or research properly. The US per capita pay twice what Canadians do. Which is even more embarrassing when consider that everyone in Canada has access. Waiting times are not ideal, but it beats a cash lockout infinitely - it's not even an argument. I'm fucking stunned that you think it is.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben IF that is the case then why are the countries in Europe having money problems and why is the UK trying to deminish its public healthcare program? A man with a broken clavical bone had to wait 7 hrs to see a doctor, you should very well know that time is a major factor when dealing with sick people. Also you have people who raise money, by charity or help from friends and family that allow them to afford the treatment.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 The US is having money problems. The entire western world is reeling from the problem US banks and US deregulation created. The UK is destroying it's public healthcare because a right wing fascist administration without the mandate to govern is smashing it to pieces. One person waiting a long time doesn't mean the whole system is bad, neither does it mean it's ideologically defunct. At least he isn't paying on the door for it. Yeah we have charities, so do you. What is your point?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben True one person waiting a long time doesn't mean the whole system is bad, however when the majority of the people have to wait 2-10 hours and not can't see a doctor on weekends, there is a major problem. See it might be good in theory, however as we are seeing it does not work in real life. I am saying that charities can help families pay for medical bills, unlike in some places where you have the promise of it but have to wait a 6 months to have an appointment.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 I'm taking my mum to see a doctor at 9AM tomorrow. She called this afternoon and made an appointment. It was no hassle at all. It works in real like. It could be better, don't get me wrong. But the way to fix is not to take it away and move to a solely private system. For example, if we weren't invested in Afghanistan, we could easily pour that money into home affairs and pull waiting lists down.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Indeed the healthcare system needs to be fixed, however going completely govt run is not the answer, b/c govt likes to money and spend it on things we don't agree on as you have stated. So we both agree that the US did great things, I just think that the US has done more good than bad, and the bad that it has done it has tried to correct.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 The bad it has done is truly terrible to be fair. Nobody wants a solely public healthcare system. They just want a complete one. Private providers can still do what they like in countries with public healthcare. It's no different to what the US has, they have two systems. We have what you have and we have an NHS.
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben Also Lets see we have Israel, the only Jewish nation in the world and the only real democratic nation in the middle east, surrounded by countries that want to nuke them off the face of the earth and believe that the holocaust was a lie. Also Israel is fighting terrorist organizations that target civilians and use women and children as suicide bombers. Not too mention that people in Israel have more freedom than their next door neighbors.
ace098765431 1 year ago
@ace098765431 You squashed your own argument with that opener. It's not democratic if it is theocratic. Do you know the difference? Oh you do? Then how are you reconciling it?
Holocaust deniers are a minority. Zionists, also a minority, are the driving force for most if not all of the aggression toward Israel. Israel's neighbours have less freedom because of Israel.
Whose side are you even on man? Whose side do you think it is you're defending?
ourben 1 year ago
@ourben He is correct. Jesus could call down "12 legions of angels" any time He wanted to, and it only took ONE angel to kill 186,000 Assyrians in one night. Not that He'd need the help of angels since He created everything that exists, both visible and invisible, so with a single word He could send anything/anyone He wanted into oblivion. Instead He came in love and mercy.If America is stupid, it is because they have turned their back on God and now worship idols, such as Government, Obama etc.
13KJQ 6 months ago
@13KJQ You're mentally unhinged.
ourben 6 months ago
@ourben "mentally unhinged"? LOL. And you know this to be true because...? If it's because I believe the bible, then that makes about 2 billion people alive today also "mentally unhinged". It must be pretty scary to live in a world where 1 of 3 people is "mentally unhinged"? Since you live in the USA, it's worse - 4 out of 5 people around you are "mentally unhinged". That's a frightening place to be, is it not?
13KJQ 6 months ago
@13KJQ What exactly is your point? That I should be scared because many people are wrong?
ourben 6 months ago
@ourben OK. I made two assumptions. One is that you called me "mentally unhinged" because I believe the Bible, and secondly that you would be afraid of someone who is "mentally unhinged". If the former is not true, then please elaborate on why you consider me to be "mentally unhinged". If the latter is not true, then you have nothing to fear. According to the Bible, Christians are to live peaceably with everyone as much as possible.
13KJQ 6 months ago
@13KJQ If you are a Christian who believes people are to live peaceably then you're all right by me.
ourben 6 months ago
@13KJQ Classic strawman argument, He was referring to you, not all those other people.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@13KJQ The most contemptible people are conservative Christian like you: hatefilled, greedy little creeps who hide behind religion. If you have all that faith, why do you need all those guns and material possessions? You give decent Christians a bad name. Who are all those people worshiping Obama and the government? You are just projecting your childish fanaticism on others.
DawnOfTheDead991 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991 Ouch. I think you're doing a little generalizing and projecting of your own? I for one have no firearms, and live in a modest rented house with my wife and two sons. By "worshiping" I mean basically who or what one looks to as their principal provider. From the Christian perspective it is either God or an idol. The idol can be the government, a leader, or some other group. From what I can tell many people in the west look to their government for "answers" to their "problems".
13KJQ 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991 I am indeed hate filled and greedy. Not sure what a "little creep" is but no doubt I've "creeped out" someone in my life. The thing is, as a bible believing Christian I know that ALL mankind are hate filled and greedy. Because I've acknowledged Christ as Lord, He has forgiven me for my hate and greed, and empowers me day by day to be less hateful and less greedy. We are commanded to love our enemies, and to be generous to others, especially the poor.
13KJQ 6 months ago
@DawnOfTheDead991 One last thing. No true Christian will tell you they're without sin. This is why God choosing flawed, defective, sinful people to spread the message of the gospel is so amazing. The expression "don't shoot the messenger" never was so fitting as it is to Christians speaking with non-Christians. If your house is on fire and a serial-rapist, murderer bangs on your door and yells "fire!", his character doesn't make the truth he is stating any less true.
13KJQ 6 months ago
@ourben
It won't be so stupid when He returns to purge this world of evil with his righteous wrath.
ViCe1986 6 months ago
apostals had swords
machtr 1 year ago
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." Western Washington has suffered a rash of home invasions lately. Some of the homeowners were armed, some were not: but it is curious how little the citizen who survives because he fights back is congratulated. I can't feel sorry because a young man invades another's home and meets an early death. I pity him. Whether he had bad friends, or a meth problem, or was a thoroughly bad man, he made a choice, and it went wrong for him.
668mirabai 1 year ago
The Liberal agenda is... to crush all of what can maintain the existence of good so as to automatically allow for the continued flourishing of evil. What they truly choose to ignore, is that complete eventual evil can only lead to complete annihilation!
edlove1220 1 year ago
"Did not have legal guns" is the key phrase. This is why gun control [to which liberals are always constantly trying to push] would NEVER WORK. Why are you restraining the person/victim's chance of defending himself while not even denting the chance of a robber/murderer's chance of killing them? Great logic liberals.... great logic.
theaznfishy 1 year ago
Ask yourself if they take away guns from good citizens does that also mean you are taking guns away from the criminals? A little known fact criminals don't follow the rules (They are Criminals they break the rules) Also if you were a Criminal would you break in a house you know that the people there have guns?I don't think so..
Myhosi 1 year ago
There is a terrible epidemic of people coming through your door and killing your family. That is why it is so important to protect against that. I must have had someone walk through my door and kill my family several times this morning.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
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HippyInASuit 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw : Tell me about it. What about those pussies living in fear with their smoke detectors and fire extinguishers, or the idiots wearing their seat belts every day? I didn't die in a car accident yesterday and my house didn't burn down today. Nothing bad ever happens. Unicorns and rainbows everywhere