What people don't know about is the ace: H.R.1981, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 which is lying in wait. They can, and very well might, copy and paste the full text of SOPA to the end of PCIP. That's the backup. That's the deal that was struck with entertainment industry lobbyists. We will try to push this anti-piracy bill. It probably won't work. Don't worry, we can pass it under an anti-child pornography bill.
Censorship plain and simple they are doing what the Chinese are doing, but in a more wide spread yet hidden movement. The first site to be destroyed is YouTube.
Piracy is only something that prevents the industry from sticking to their old and dated models forever. Keep up with the technology, be reasonable, and you'll be fine.
this bill might actually be a good thing, it will obviously not fly well with the pirates and they are a resourceful bunch we will see innovations in encryption methods and perhaps the first decentralized internet.
I'm happy to say I'm on Keith's side on this one, but as usual his analysis is quite simplistic. I mean it was the corporations colluding with the state that invent the bs notion of intellectual property to begin with.
@solkacorot I'm not sure how much of a genius he was but sometimes when you tell the truth you seem to be a genius or a traitor, depending on your beliefs.
@Zlibservacratican Enforcing censorship requires force or threats of force,,,That is also a way of acquiring money, but don't forget the violence came first. I want people to see that the state is inherently violent.
@kingcherub Guns are not necessary to get money, but money is necessary to get guns. I know what you want people to see, but it is wrong, it is people who are inherently violent.
@Zlibservacratican The state produces nothing. It uses violence or threats of violence to extort money from peaceful people. Even if people are inherently violent, I don't see how giving a group of people a territorial monopoly on the legitimate use of violence solves any condition inherent to humanity. The Hobbesian jungle or Locke's state of nature has no historical basis.
@kingcherub The state produces roads, buildings, education, information, medicine, weapons, soldiers, technology, and energy. The state produces by shuffling money around, the same way businesses produce their products. Of course it isn't the state or the business that actually produces it, but the workers who are employed by the state or business. So the use of violence is now legitimate? All private security firms are allowed legal use of violence even if they are working for small businesses.
@newdimensionfilms Can't you see that none of what you are arguing works without violence. What does the government have that the corporations keep buying from them? The answer is a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. Besides your second example is wrong. if a newspaper doesn't report on something it can't, automatically, be said to be censoring anything, unless it is doing so by threats of force from the state. Censorship always refers to the state, not private entities.
"Can't you see that none of what you are arguing works without violence"
Sure it does. No violence is needed to censor when you control the cable that brings the internet to people's houses. Stop smoking the libertarian pipe and realize that not only the government is capable of censorship.
"if a newspaper doesn't report on something it can't, automatically, be said to be censoring anything"
Newspapers are not the internet. The internet is multi directional, users have a voice on the internet, and that voice can be censored by the ISP. Stop being stupid.
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What people don't know about is the ace: H.R.1981, the Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 which is lying in wait. They can, and very well might, copy and paste the full text of SOPA to the end of PCIP. That's the backup. That's the deal that was struck with entertainment industry lobbyists. We will try to push this anti-piracy bill. It probably won't work. Don't worry, we can pass it under an anti-child pornography bill.
SPREAD EVERYWHERE!!!!!
Task1001 1 month ago
if they cant censor it they will for damn sure try to controll it. it is going to be intresting to see were this really goes.
notdumdum1 2 months ago
From my understanding it is he, the O.G, Fascist! This would mean that America(and others) have been Fascist for a very long time.(;
"The government is the shadow cast upon the people by big business."
---John Dewey---60-70yrs. ago
bozolazic 2 months ago
Strong bipartisan support?!? unphucking real! The one time these clowns decide to work together and its for a bill that will limit the internet.
40blacksabbath 3 months ago
America i getting crazier and more full of itself. Who died and left us Sheriff of the planet? This shit has to stop. We need to stop it!
theescooter 3 months ago 3
Jewish Slavery still exists!
A creative White Artist creates CONTENT and some Jew claims they own it!
TexasStraightShooter 3 months ago
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@TexasStraightShooter wtf are you talking about
go home
LobsterPotsticker 3 months ago
America, please stop calling yourself The Land of the Free. It's just becoming sad now.
mw2000 3 months ago 5
I love stealing from Corporate America.It makes me feel like a true American every time I do it.And no law will ever stop me.
OurOxygen 3 months ago 4
Congress and the senate are not corporations. Without these institutions the lobbyists could wish to ban stuff all they want.
SloterMFmeyer 3 months ago
@SloterMFmeyer i disagree, gov is a corporation
blite13 3 months ago
Treason. Change Obama shitting voters can believe in.
MakesMeAngry 3 months ago
We will all be so better off having Fox News running the internet thank god the government is here to save me once more.
Who needs freedom when we can be taking care of by fox news and the NWO.
johnnycmajor 3 months ago
We are in grave danger, I think our time has run out. We are fucked. Goodbye all. It has been a slice.
johnnycmajor 3 months ago
Cheap shot at Iran.
MrMooseheadbeer 3 months ago
SOPA will ruin the internet. And it will affect ENTIRE WORLD!!!!
So Americans. YOU BETTER FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS BECAUSE ELITES ARE WIPING THE FLOOR OF ALL FREEDOMS RIGHT NOW!!!
4life4win 3 months ago
Copyright trolls, parasites on society. Their greed is destroying the world.
butchman1 3 months ago
I would write a comment here but fear of @)($*@#$(, damn!
Elvisofaces 3 months ago
They'll fail. They'll fail hard.
01000001011100100111 3 months ago
Censorship plain and simple they are doing what the Chinese are doing, but in a more wide spread yet hidden movement. The first site to be destroyed is YouTube.
jetli80 3 months ago
The Corporations are asking for a war against free speech!!!!!!!, I will be on the frontlines Fighting these Fascists Everyday, WHO IS WITH ME??????
TheRevolutionCanada 3 months ago 6
SOPA will ruin everything, but you can't expect swine to understand this, because they are making too much money selling the fark out.
TheAmusingHeckler 3 months ago
Land of the Free!!! I still believe! don't you!
Budvb 3 months ago
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@Budvb Not if we dont get angry and ACT.
RFInterests 3 months ago
Is it just me or has Olbermann been looking unhealthy and/or tired lately?
atchisrj1 3 months ago
@atchisrj1 He's trying out a new "5 o'clock shadow" go-tee.
bunkermunk 3 months ago
No Sen. Wyden The big problem with these bills is that the Government uses them 2 CONTROL EVERYTHING.
newzyoucanuse 3 months ago
Google's gonna win.
areyoublinddenver 3 months ago
We need to arrest the government
TheEricleeparker 3 months ago 6
he forgot to shave its annoying lol
getatmegamer 3 months ago in playlist More videos from MOXNEWSd0tC0M
I love the gull of the government to think they have the capacity to do this.
You will see World War Hacker take place..... get your money out of the banks.
BadSwineDOTcom 3 months ago
Love his outro.
Reynard13Fuchs 3 months ago
time for internet 2.0
dude102388 3 months ago
No more Youtube. No more Google. No more science articles. NO MORE MOXY!
Fuck it! Tom Carpor and Chris Coons are getting some goddamn letters.
biggydx 3 months ago
Piracy is only something that prevents the industry from sticking to their old and dated models forever. Keep up with the technology, be reasonable, and you'll be fine.
Frottjeif 3 months ago
They'll pass it. Just like they pass every fucked up bill. They won't stop until a militia storms the congress and kicks them all out.
chico280 3 months ago
@chico280 Amen to that.
PomeraniansRock1 3 months ago
Is that Olbermann's attempt at no shave November?
OkashaSH5 3 months ago
Welcome to Ameranazi Please leave your rights as you inter our nation
surfjerr 3 months ago
All depends on which side can raise the most money to buy their position in the congress. Pony up Google, Youtube and Facebook
LANDSHARK7130 3 months ago
this bill might actually be a good thing, it will obviously not fly well with the pirates and they are a resourceful bunch we will see innovations in encryption methods and perhaps the first decentralized internet.
neurel111 3 months ago
@neurel111 <=uneducated on the topic
LANDSHARK7130 3 months ago
Welcome to the China censorship plan.
Bastards !!!
TrickShot1100 3 months ago
not bloody likely
LANDSHARK7130 3 months ago
If they're going after bad actors, should Keanu Reeves be worried?
airevolt1 3 months ago in playlist incubus
Television did kill sports. Wtf is Keith talking about?!? He worked for the grimm reaper of sports, ESPN.
joepglass 3 months ago
Nazi Germany.
cne08 3 months ago
Olbermann has such great news topics, yet he still shills for the democunt party.
jRedTree85 3 months ago
@jRedTree85 i know right the republicans are soooo much better. smh
ymkamara420 3 months ago
@ymkamara420 did i say they were? you're a stupid assuming fucktard. lay off the pot, loser.
jRedTree85 3 months ago
@jRedTree85 no u just seem like a dumbass conservative that is all
ymkamara420 3 months ago
Please Filibuster Senator!!!
R11110000 3 months ago
say no to Online Piracy act
hamid954 3 months ago
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fonkymaster 3 months ago
I'm happy to say I'm on Keith's side on this one, but as usual his analysis is quite simplistic. I mean it was the corporations colluding with the state that invent the bs notion of intellectual property to begin with.
kingcherub 3 months ago
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DesertRose0829 3 months ago 2
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.----Mussolini
bozolazic 3 months ago 50
@bozolazic Mussolini was a genius.truth in simplistic logic.
solkacorot 3 months ago
@solkacorot I'm not sure how much of a genius he was but sometimes when you tell the truth you seem to be a genius or a traitor, depending on your beliefs.
bozolazic 3 months ago
@bozolazic this is a quote of Mussolini?
lerch25 2 months ago
Assbags!
talkingprimate 3 months ago
The corporations can't censor anything. Only men with guns can do that...
kingcherub 3 months ago 29
@kingcherub Men with the most money owns the most guns.
Zlibservacratican 3 months ago
@Zlibservacratican Enforcing censorship requires force or threats of force,,,That is also a way of acquiring money, but don't forget the violence came first. I want people to see that the state is inherently violent.
kingcherub 3 months ago
@kingcherub Guns are not necessary to get money, but money is necessary to get guns. I know what you want people to see, but it is wrong, it is people who are inherently violent.
Zlibservacratican 3 months ago
@Zlibservacratican The state produces nothing. It uses violence or threats of violence to extort money from peaceful people. Even if people are inherently violent, I don't see how giving a group of people a territorial monopoly on the legitimate use of violence solves any condition inherent to humanity. The Hobbesian jungle or Locke's state of nature has no historical basis.
kingcherub 3 months ago
@kingcherub The state produces roads, buildings, education, information, medicine, weapons, soldiers, technology, and energy. The state produces by shuffling money around, the same way businesses produce their products. Of course it isn't the state or the business that actually produces it, but the workers who are employed by the state or business. So the use of violence is now legitimate? All private security firms are allowed legal use of violence even if they are working for small businesses.
Zlibservacratican 3 months ago
@kingcherub
The corporations buy the men with guns dumbass.
newdimensionfilms 3 months ago
@kingcherub
Plus when you control the internet service, you can damn well censor whatever you want without owning a gun.
newdimensionfilms 3 months ago
@newdimensionfilms Can't you see that none of what you are arguing works without violence. What does the government have that the corporations keep buying from them? The answer is a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. Besides your second example is wrong. if a newspaper doesn't report on something it can't, automatically, be said to be censoring anything, unless it is doing so by threats of force from the state. Censorship always refers to the state, not private entities.
kingcherub 3 months ago
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@kingcherub
"Can't you see that none of what you are arguing works without violence"
Sure it does. No violence is needed to censor when you control the cable that brings the internet to people's houses. Stop smoking the libertarian pipe and realize that not only the government is capable of censorship.
newdimensionfilms 3 months ago
@kingcherub
"if a newspaper doesn't report on something it can't, automatically, be said to be censoring anything"
Newspapers are not the internet. The internet is multi directional, users have a voice on the internet, and that voice can be censored by the ISP. Stop being stupid.
newdimensionfilms 3 months ago
DEFEND LIBERTY!
IBloodSweatTears 3 months ago