13th june 1944, Villers-Bocage, Normandie ...you and your Tiger-crew have nailed that british armored bataillon, Michael! ...a masterpiece in tank-tacticals ...cheers
Fantastic video. Too bad that the Tigers on the western front had to be wasted in tight areas, streets and between orchards instead of in open landscapes, which they were designed to be. Amazing tanks with amazing crew. Germans - be proud!
I wonder what would the outcome of the war might have been if the E-series of panzers might of made during the end of the conflict..(considering that the flaws that the 3 big cats endured). The E/25, E50,E/75 & the E/100 looked very impressive indeed! if these panzers had their flaws sorted well before they (supposedly) saw conflict, who knows what the outcome might of been then? just my imagination running wild i suppose... oscarthegrouch
@tachelesreden Nearly every nation has caused untold pain. Do you think the British and French empires were built on peace? Look at the Mongols hordes that swept through Asia. The Japanese empire. America. Aztecs. The Vikings. The Persian and Egyptian empires. The Muslim armies that swept across Asia, Africa, and Europe. We are all guilty. You are no more guilty than any of them.
@tachelesreden Your technology used into the armored vehicle industry was the best, late in the '30s. However, this technology wasn't used to make the world a better place, but murder men, women and children. But that was just the past, we cannot blame the actual Germany for it. Greetings from Romania.
@tachelesreden Many of us are aware that there is a line between heritage and hate. You should be proud of your history and not be shameful, the wehrmacht fought on against odds that they knew were not good. Instead of surrender, they fought for the end. We believe they fought for their land, their people and their country. Hitler feared his army greatly the SS was evidence that he did not trust them with his life. They are your ancestors, and they deserve honor, and respect.
@tachelesreden They should make you proud that your German. They fought greatly and died honorably. The Wehrmacht was not responsible for any death camps, SS guarded these camps. Because of what they did everyone knows to respect Germany.
@tachelesreden. You probably were not alive during that period in Germany history, so you should feel no guilt as a person from Germnay or for your country. Those events were unfortunate. As far as the German army, the Germans were superior soldiers. According to one author, 100 German soldiers was equivalent to 120 Allied soldiers and on the Eastern Front, the ration was greater, 100 Germans to 200 Russians. Their equipment was excellent as well. Best Regards from U.S.
@MrOrmesby yeah the 88mm gun of the Tiger and King Tiger could destroy anything it faced at will and at ranges where no enemy gun could do any damage at all. But the design of the tank let the gun down. The allied realized it made very little sense to tie up that much limited resources into building a small number of tanks with extreme capabilities when what they needed was a large number of not so highly sophisticated and not so fragile tanks in order to win the war.
@MrOrmesby Yeah the Sherman gun was absolutely ridiculous, it looks like a pea shooter compared to the German 88mm gun. The Tiger was great because of its 88mm gun. Not because of its size. The German designers were incompetent because what they did was counterproductive. They should have realized that they could have made the Tiger much lighter armored simply because the 88mm gun outgunned everything else. Instead they just made it even heavier...
@bengtsson45 The German designers charged with solving the problems of the Tiger tank making the King Tiger tank was incompetent in terms of the problems they tried to solve were made even worse. The Tiger had engine and transmission problems and they just made it worse by making the king Tiger even more heavy and under powered. The Tiger was extremely hard to repair in battle field conditions and the King Tiger was even more complicated which made it virtually impossible to repair.
@SquirrelFromGradLife This is not the fault of the designers but due to very limited resources during the end of the war. The German designers where many years ahead in there thinking.
The designers wanted a fuel injected 1,000 PS engine with a whole new transmission along with a 10.5 cm gun and stabilized sights, stabilized main gun, automatic ammunition feed, a Zeiss stereoscopic range finder and an overpressure and air filtration system.
@bengtsson45 You're actually contradicting your own point. You say it's not the designers fault and then go on to explain about the limited German resources. Yeah the designers were in fact well aware about their limited resources because they sat there in the middle of the air raids. They knew they didn't have all the steel in the world yet they made a heavier tank needing more steel despite the Tiger being more than well armored. That's the definition of incompetence right there.
@SquirrelFromGradLife It´s not like the designers was given much to say in the end. The order was very strict about what they wanted and how they wanted it. One of the first things too be denied for the designers was a new transmission and engine.
The designers are not to blame for this. To even suggest that German desigers where incompetent show´s a high level of ignorance and you would not find a single military historian to agree with you.
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indeed! The KWK L/56 gun was a extremely potent weapon, but as the germans were now up against the soviet 85mm & 100mm armed t-34's, the KWK L/70 gun and its longer barrel, larger propellant discharge quickly restored the balance of firepower for the germans. This was the most fearsome weapon of the war, and could penetrate armour of the JS/2 &Js/3 with relative ease. JS/3 , like pershing, came too late to be called a tank killer... thanks 4 comment anhow... Oscarthegrouch
90 mm gun on m-26 pershing was also a formidable gun.... it came into the war too late to be considered a tank killer even though its armour piercing capabilities were quite good
@oscarthegrouch68 Yes but optics sucked as any other USA tank gun and it lost penetration over long distances, it was effective against the Tiger frontal plate only under 800-1000m, while the Tiger could pierce the Pershing from virtually any distance with APCR rounds.
Could somebody provide the source of music, and possibly the artist? i looked at the comments and it has been asked countless times, unfortunately nobody knew or posted an answer : (
To Blackhawk, also on the subject matter, the lend/lease pact was starting to dissintergrate as was the feeling between the 2 continents. stalin wasted millions of citizens without any mercy ( the yanks were fairly wasteful with the repple depple system; aka the replacement system). I would rather be speakin german 2day instead of fuckin commo, at least u might have a few basic rights... not like the commos as eveidenced still to the day... cheers
To Blackhawk, the soviets didnt go bust till the space race fucked em in the late 50's early 60's. If the might of the entire german resourses, panzer elite, luftwaffe, heeres,kreigsmarine etc couldnt crack the ruskies, surely the seppos would have certainly struggled. As i said, Patton was a war mongering fuck wit and the yanks shut his big trap permantely shut, 4 good reason.in 44 the soviet airforce was pumpin hard, evidenced in history.. cheers
yep, patton wanted to bash the ruskies all the way back to red square, but the seppos (yanks) knew this was impossible! just imagine pissant shermeans against t-34s, not a hope in hell.. thats why they shut pattons trap permantly ... fuck patton and his third army.. seppos would of needed13,500 tigers to that.. flol
@oscarthegrouch68 Beating the soviet union was far from impossible for the americans. The soviet economy was about to collapse. The western part of the soviet union was reduced to rubble and stalin had to keep up an army of many milions. The americans couldve pushed on and destroyed the soviet tanks just like they did with the german armor: airforce.
But the airforce isn`t the answer to everything in war. Especially in the winter airforce is nearly useless. For example, look to the end of ´44 in the ardennes when relatively weak german forces drove the allied lines back.
And even if you`re able to drive back the russians to their homecountry,would you really chase them? War in Russia is a terrible nightmare; you can not compare airfields, streets and (especially) weather conditions to the western european counterparts.
@frodoringbearer Don't forget USA wasn't in Europe only. They had the Marines in the Far East, and they could have made an anphinious assault attacking from both sides, plus they had support of UK which was the largest Empire of the world.
U.S. General Patton had high respect for the German soldier and he wished he had tanks like the Tiger and Panther. At the end of the war , Patton wanted to have the Germans join up with the allies and wipeout Russia.
Ihr dürft nicht vergessen ,das alle Zufuhren für Deutschland gesperrt wurden um den Krieg zu erzeugen!Hitler war nur der Vorwand um D plattzumachen(Wirtschaftlich) !
Ach ja? Gab es ein Embargo z.B. beim Öl, welches die US-Firma Standard Oil bis 1940/41 reichlich an Deutschland verkaufte? Erst durch diese Lieferungen, war es der Wehrmacht möglich ihre(treibstoffintensiven) Blitzkriege durchzuführen.
Und wirtschaftlich war "des Führers Reich" schon 1939 bankrott - trotz der Annexionen Österreichs und der Tschecheslowakei! (und moralisch übrigens erst recht).
Ausserdem wäre es bestimmt intelligenter gewesen sich auf die beiden Standardjäger zu konzentrieren und diese weiterzuentwickeln.Die Me109k und die Ta152 waren 1945 mehr als konkurrenzfähig.Dann hätte man den allierten Bomberverbänden zahlenmäßig ganz anders entgegentreten können.
Soviel zur Luftwaffe-eigentlich geht es im Video ja um den Tiger.(auch davon gab es viel zu wenige-Konzentration auf Panther waer besser gewesen)
Deinem letzten Satz kann ich allerdings uneingeschränkt zustimmen.;-)
Aber der Konflikt lies sich damals schon nicht als eine Auseinandersetzung von einzelnen Waffengattungen sehen.Nach einer kurzen Pattsituation in der Bocage wurde die Wehrmacht schnell aus Frankreich gedrängt. Viele Tigerpanzer wurden nicht durch Feindeinwirkung zerstört sondern mangels Sprit aufgegeben.Selber schuld wenn man die Rüstungswirtschaft, Nachschub und Logistik gnadenlos vernachlässigt und den Krieg als rein militärische Auseinandersetzung betrachtet.
V.a. bei der Luftwaffe hat das Dritte Reich sein chaotisches Gesicht gezeigt.Es sind ja einige Flugzeugtypen entwickelt worden; dann ein paar hundert produziert und schließlich hat man gemerkt das es das Modell "doch nicht bringt"(z.B. Me 210,Me 410,He 177).Die Me262 hätte nur was gebracht wenn sie 2-3 Jahre früher frontreif gewesen wäre.Neben der Entwicklung muss man ja Produktion, Erstellung von ausreichend Kerosin und Ausbildung der Flieger berücksichtigen. All das dauert.
..und lass Dich dabei bitte nicht durch den Pseudo-Dokumentationsstil, der sonoren Hintergrundstimme und v.a. der Mischung aus (Halb-)Wahrheiten, Lügen und Weglassen von Tatsachen verleiten.
Das Bildmaterial ist ganz interessant, aber die Grundaussage des Machwerks total irreführend und verharmlosend.
Das ist ja fast schon eine verherrlichung Hitlers. Viel zu einseitig. Hätte die Doku auch die schlechten seiten Hitlers gezeigt, wäre das ja ganz ok. Die Judenverfolgung und die Euthanasie wurde komplett rasugelassen und das gehört nuneinmal zu einer Doku über Hitler. Mag zwar sein, dass unsere Geschichtsbücher viele Märchen erzählen aber das ist echt dreist
the greatest enemy is one with the best tactics and the best equiptment that is why WWII is listed at the top of all wars that have happened in history the germans made too many advancments
I think the Tiger is a little bit overrated.You have to take many things into accout not only armament.Costs,performance in terrain,armor,speed and off course its main weapon.I think the best Tank in WW2 was the Panther.Its long-barrelled high volocity gun performed better than tiger's 88mm gun.The French even equipped some units with Panther tanks after the war!
@HOMM5 Tiger was good but not the best. Tiger II "Kingtiger" was not good at all. It was slow and had tons of mechanical failures. Most Tiger II's were abandoned by the germans instead of being destroyed in battle.
The Tiger I was good in combat 1 vs 1... But as an allround tank is was not that good.
It is believed by many that the Panzerkampfwagen 5 "Panther" was the best tank of second world war.
Fast, balanced armour and firepower with its 75 milimeter gun. Average production.
Please don't call the Tiger II slow, it was the fastest heavy tank of the war with a max roadspeed of 41km/h.
It also had excelelnt mobility thanks to it's wide tracks and powered steering thuogh it did suffer from beeing rushed into service, never given the chance for the problems to be ironed out.
@Dreachon Indeed, the Tiger Ausf. B was nearly unstoppable, it could counter even the IS2 model 1944 which was the best Russian heavy tank. Only the 17 pdr with APDS rounds was a real menace for the Tiger Ausf. B, no other cannon in the war had a chance to pierce the armor frontally. The problem was that many factories producing it were destroyed by allied bombing and that in late 1944 Germany didn't have enough fuel to make it fully operational.
For the APDS it needed to be very close as in those days such special ammo was very inaccurate.
AS for the Tiger II, it was never given a chance to get fully worked out, the germans already had an update program planned for it including a new 1000 hp engibne and other small adjustment.
IIRC 1 firefly knocked out wittmanns entire tiger group (chances are him too) with 1 shot each at iirc something like 800-1000m without missing, not to bad for an "inaccurate" set of ammo eh?
But i agree, the tiger didnt get a chance for the kinks, but even if it did, by the time those "kinks" got sorted it would be against tanks like the centurion and likely the 20 pwnder which was double to power of the 88mm
A historian proved that the canadian shermans were not able to knock out 3 of them, but that a firefly of a yeomanry reg. was in the perfect position (and recorded as such) of shooting and knocking out 3 tigers fairly recently (ie in the last 2 years iirc),
BTW learn to read, "likely the 20 pounder" doesnt equal "with 20 pounder" i know full well what it was armed with.
As for the APDS round, according to the guy firing the gun of the firefly, he was using it.
Dude, they kept field studies in France about a few years ago, the Canadians were within 150m of Wittmann, 3 tigers were knocked by the british while Wittmans was knocked out by the Canadians.
I can also say if that is what the guy is claiming then he is lying for 2 very obvious reason, 1 is that 17 pounder APDs wasn't delivered to front units until we get to august and 2 that APDS could only be use at less than 500m as beyond it could barely hit a target
@Dreachon... Seen that documentry... and have to agree with you that it was the Canadians that destroyed Wittmans Tiger... I am English... but credit, where credit is due..
@MitchofSmeg ... By August 1944... sorting out the "kinks".. in the Tiger was a moot point... it had stopped being produced... attention had shifted to the Konigs Tiger and the Panther... the Panther had time to sort a lot of it's kinks out...(and became one of the best tanks of the war)... Konigs Tiger didn't have the luxury of time to do so... am certain that the Germans would have done so... If given the time,,, but time had become it's enemy
@MrOrmesby Yeah in true incompetent German fashion they decided the problems of the Tiger being under powered, breaking down and being to heavy would be solved by making the King Tiger even more heavy, more under powered and even more complicated.
Had they realized that the excellent 88mm gun was the only useful thing on the Tiger they had built a lighter tank they could produce in far greater numbers with the devastating 88mm gun but they didn't. Most King Tigers newer made it into battle!
Sorry to say but your just talking nonsense, german engineers were not incompetent as they were able to produce a 70 tonne tank that was faster than any soviet heavy tank and was far better at crossing rough terrain than a sherman.
A Tiger Ii could turn on the spot, neither a sherman or T-34 could do this.
Despite 70 tonnes the tiger II and a weak engine it had a better fuel consumption than the Panther both on and off road.
@Dreachon Actually you're just talking pure shit about the fuel consumption of the King Tiger. The Panther and King Tiger both used the Maybach HL230 and the panther was some 20 tons lighter and therefor had better fuel consumption which is relative because even the Panther had really bad fuel consumption and the King Tiger was horrendous.
You clearly do not know shit about anything you fucking idiot...
The King Tiger was know for just breaking down constantly!
I know more than a fool liek you that can do nothing but posting soviet propaganda and who seesm to have a problem with reading, I said it was fatser than any soviet HEAVY tank.
Remove yourself from this discussion as you know nothing, Tiger II did not constantly break down, it's an old false myths that idiots like you still believe in.
@Dreachon Actually when you start saying such stupid shit that the King Tiger had better fuel economy than the Panther although the King Tiger shared the same engine as the Panther which were some 20 tons lighter making the Panther have much better fuel economy then you're fucking stupid... stupid ignorant fuck...
Don't fucking claim you know anything when you say suck stupid shit..
@Dreachon It's actually a historic fact that both the Panther and the King Tiger used the same Maybach HL230 petrol engine. It's a fact. If you say anything else you're a complete fucking idiot. The engines are still in the fucking tanks that survived. How the fuck do not not realize that. It's the same engine.With the King Tiger being much heavier than the Panther weighing 50% more or some 26 tonnes and using the same engine your statement about the King Tiger having better fuel economy is SHIT
Once again wrong, the Tiger II was far better, it scored also better in servicibility comparable to the panzer IV and scoring far better than the Panther.
What comes next your gonna tell me another ridicoulos thing like the Tiger I and II were slow moving and cumbersome monsters?
German engineers were alot more competent than you as they did know how to make great weapons.
@Dreachon Wrong about what you fucking idiot? you're just making up stupid lies constantly. It's a fucking fact that both the Panther and later Tiger versions as well as the king Tiger used the Maybach HL230 and when you have a vehicle that ways 50% more it can't by definition have a better fuel consumption! How stupid are you.
@Dreachon It's a historical fact that more King Tigers broke down than actually made it into battle. The engine and transmission on the King Tiger was so overloaded because it was basically the same taken from the Tiger tank.
During the winter campaign in Russia the Tiger and King Tigers were basically just stationary of the strain of ice and snow on the transmission and primary drive.
Further more their overlapping road wheel design was terrible for battle field repair.
During the winter battles the Tiger saw plenty of action, it wasn't reduced to beeing stationary, we have have plenty of pictures, reports and footage of Tiger in winetr schemes moving around and fighting.
@Dreachon Now you can't even read anymore. I wrote "Tiger and King Tigers were basically just stationary" which is correct. You're referring to Nazi propaganda material and not to reality. The reality is that both the Tiger and later the King Tiger had so big problems with ice and snow in their drive wheel and their primary drive that they were ordered to basically NOT be moved around. Further more the cold made the weak transmission even more fragile and they broke down all the time.It's a fact
@Dreachon Actually NO you're a fucking IDIOT. Both the Tiger and especially the king Tiger was so heavy they couldn't go over most bridges bridges and they had a nightmare of a time getting them anywhere. Then King Tiger was so big they even had to take the tracks off just to have it on rail cars going to the front.
You're an idiot... a fucking moron that claims the most stupid things ever.. go fuck yourself I am done with your stupidity
And more wrong statements, both the Tiger I and Tiger II had plenty of bridges to cross here in europe were people knew how to build a good infrastructure, problems coems in Russia were they know nothing about building roads and bridges.
As for the tracks this was also for the Tiger I but it was only needed if the train transporting would meet another train, if not the combat tracks would stay on.
These tracks could be fully switched in 30 to 40min.
One doesn't need a 70 ton bridge to get a 70 ton tank acros, we have recorded instances of churchill crocodiles crossing a 9 ton bridge and Ferdinand crossing a 25 ton bridge, both were succesfully crossed.
@Dreachon Further more the King Tiger was so heavy and so wide the Germans could barely get it into battle and had to construct special bridges for it to get to the front.
It was so big and wide they had to take the belts off it to even transport it on rail cars.
Servicing the King Tiger was an absolute nightmare and they had nothing but engine and transmission problems. They were literally sitting ducks in the winter months. It had a good gun in the 88mm though.
@Dreachon When you say it was faster than any soviet tank that's absolutely bullshit. The Tiger and especially King Tiger had one major flaw and that was engine and transmission. It correct that the theoretical top speed was higher but since all King Tigers was speed restricted due a fatal flawed main gear design and a ridiculous fuel consumption they were in fact slower than the T-34 and the T-34 had much wider tracks in comparison making it go over terrain much better.
Read what I posted you idiot, I said soviet HEAVY tank, T-34 is not a heavy tank but i guess to you it is.
T-34 did not have much wider tracks in proportion and with the T-34/85 it had has it's advantage in corssing difficult terrain while the Tiger I and II still had it.
@Dreachon There you fucking go again you moron arguing against historical fact you fucking idiot. Yeah the T-34 had much wider tracks in comparison with both the Tiger and King Tiger. The T-34 weighed in at around 30 tonnes where the Tiger was almost 59 tonnes and the King Tiger was at 70 tonnes. The T-34 had 55cm track, Tiger has 75cm tracks and king Tiger had 80cm tracks.
Since the Tiger weighted more than twice as much as the T-34 it should have had 110cm tracks, and the King Tiger 125 cm!
No, the one going against historical facts is you, you are completely leaving out the lenght of the machine and the suspension which was far superieur in both the Tiger I and II, why the hell do you think that both the Tiger I and II enjoyed such a relatieve lowe ground pressure.
@Dreachon How stupid do one have to be you? Really, you just make up bullshit all day long and keep lying you retard. We all know how long the T-34 was and in fact although it weighed in at half the Tiger's weight it was in fact LONGER than the Tiger. It's a fucking fact you moron. It's inches but it proves you know nothing!
The Tiger had double the ground pressure than the T-34 and the King Tiger came in at 30% more given it was a foot longer and had 80 cm tracks. You know NOTHING bitch..
@HOMM5 If the Tiger was so successful then why did the Germans lose? The Tiger was basically ridiculous but the infamous 88mm gun was absolutely excellent. The Germans could easily have taken the 88mm gun and put it into a smaller tank they could build a larger numbers. The Tiger was over engineered, under powered, too heavy and used too many resources the Germans didn't have.
Actually the Germans lost more Tigers to breakdowns than to enemy fire.
@Teufelsnachbar667 the high velocity 75 mm l-70 of the Panther had better armour penetration than the Tiger's 88 and yes, the few than 50 tones is-2 (not a heavy tank as the Tiger or king Tiger) was not a problem for the Panther even at more than 1500m and about armour. The side armour of the tiger is better than the Panther and the fron is 100mm vertical for the Tiger vs 80mm sloped for the Panther, just the same in combat conditions.
@tonidmc Well i was reading a article by a german tank commander who tells a story about an encounter with an is-2.
They shot 4 times from 100 meters and all hits simply bounced off . They were only able to destroy it with an shot between turret and hull. He also said that it was not possible to destroy an is-2 over the distance of more then 400 meters.
But he was probably wrong, because he didnt see your math right ;)
@Teufelsnachbar667 I read a lots of articles of ww2 and the is2 was so bad welded that a shots froms pak 40's at short distances made a devastating efects blowing the amunition... so that could be a real article but the is2 wasn't so hard to destroy
@tonidmc cool, didnt know that it wasnt so ahrd to destroy it. On the other hand the most articels show that the russians had a hard time finding good commanders and crew members for the tanks. I think that the training was a nother big advantage of german tank troops.
@Teufelsnachbar667 yes, the training of the armoured soviet troops wasn't the best but they had the enormous advantatge of their massive production. that was the final way to defeat the germans.
One of the problems with the iS-2 was the poor quality of it's cast armour, this led to many IS-2 having the equivelant of 90 or even 50mm of armour.
Recorded cases exist of 7.5cm L48 penetrating frontal armour, 8.8cm L56 penetrating from long range and the most embarressing was the penetration of the lower frontal plate by a german anti-tank rifle although I more believe this to have been the bigger 2.8cm schwere panzerbuchse.
@Dreachon Quite right, quality control was a huge problem with Soviet tanks. Armor and ammunition were frequently performing far under what they should have on paper. While the armor of the IS-2 looks impressive, it's quality issues hampered it's effectiveness. Non penetrating hits had a pretty good chance of creating spalling and killing the crew. It's gun also had problems. Ammo storage was poor, and very little could be carried, and reloading times were very long.
German Tank development has been superior for a long time. With the allround Panther, over-engineered Tiger I and Tiger II ( Ideas ahead of productioncapabilities ) the germans set the highest standards in WW2.
Then they had 11 year pause before development started on the Leopard 1. Entered service in 1965 and sold to a range of countries.
Succeded by Leopard 2 , now the best allround mbt in the world.
The German Cats.......... just gets better...........
Years ahead of its time,I stood in the turret of a Tiger back in 1993 no hull though! that tank is now the only fully restored Tiger in the world number 131 at Bovington UK the most popular exibit by far,looks good even next to modern tanks,every now and again you can hear it roar.
this epic music is called "fate" from the "Bangkok Dangerous"-soundtrack ...personnally i prefer WW2-footage with brutal music! enter: Bolt Thrower - anti-tank or enter: Korn - Mr. Rogers ...crazy stuff! :) cheers
Da muss ich TheNeo20012 zustimmen umsonst galt die Wehrmacht nicht als beste Armee der damaligen Zeit, die einzige Armee die selbst den Amerikanern in den Arsch treten konnte zwar nur kurz aber bei der misslichen Lage. Ich wünschte mir es gäbe heute noch mehr von ihnen, da würde es so Überfälle wie in den U-Bahnen wie sie in letzter Zeit statt fanden nicht geben.
@alex842007 Damals haben die Soldaten zusammengehalten. Die Wehrmacht hatte viele fähige Offiziere wobei Manstein und Guderian für mich schon herausstechen. Ohne Manstein wäre die Ostfront nach Stalingrad vermutlich schon zusammengebrochen und Operation Zitadelle hätte es so nicht gegeben.
deutsche soldaten haben ihr leben geopfert nur für ein idioten wie hitler..... mein opa war an der ostfront und er konnte ihn garnicht leiden... und nicht nur er.. hitler hatt denn untergang gebracht bevor der krieg anfing und wenn einer meint das die wehrmacht alles nazis waren der hatt keine ahnung und sollten einfach nur mal die fresse halten.. ich bin stolz auf die soldaten der wehrmacht was sie trotz ein idioten wie hitler geleistet haben..
13th june 1944, Villers-Bocage, Normandie ...you and your Tiger-crew have nailed that british armored bataillon, Michael! ...a masterpiece in tank-tacticals ...cheers
1bottlejackdaniels 3 days ago
9:51
Shouldn't that be 'her' crews?
I'm just sayin'.
the82spartans 5 days ago
i miss my grandpa ss sniper lothar karmoll died in oct.2011 lovely grandpa
bombardemo 6 days ago 2
Fantastic video. Too bad that the Tigers on the western front had to be wasted in tight areas, streets and between orchards instead of in open landscapes, which they were designed to be. Amazing tanks with amazing crew. Germans - be proud!
Guderian80 6 days ago
I wonder what would the outcome of the war might have been if the E-series of panzers might of made during the end of the conflict..(considering that the flaws that the 3 big cats endured). The E/25, E50,E/75 & the E/100 looked very impressive indeed! if these panzers had their flaws sorted well before they (supposedly) saw conflict, who knows what the outcome might of been then? just my imagination running wild i suppose... oscarthegrouch
oscarthegrouch68 1 month ago
@oscarthegrouch68 The Panther served well into the 1970's. I
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tachelesreden 1 month ago
T34 was the best
HUK84 1 month ago
Germany was the best and the mightiest of all times. That is because there was order , hygiene and discipline among german army.
Nemetsa 1 month ago 2
As a nation we are gulity for the rest of our existence.
We brought a lot of pain to millions of people.
But from a tactical point of view, and from a engineering point of view... we were not bad.
Best Regards from Germany.
tachelesreden 1 month ago 15
@tachelesreden You Germans have nothing to be ashamed of, here in America we do!
BandOfBrothers25 1 month ago 3
@tachelesreden Nearly every nation has caused untold pain. Do you think the British and French empires were built on peace? Look at the Mongols hordes that swept through Asia. The Japanese empire. America. Aztecs. The Vikings. The Persian and Egyptian empires. The Muslim armies that swept across Asia, Africa, and Europe. We are all guilty. You are no more guilty than any of them.
jackzero99 1 month ago 2
@tachelesreden
What?
"As a nation we r guilty for the rest of our existance?"
The finance-elite and its controlling american-british forces were probably totally brainwashing you!
Earlier I was thinking like you - than I researched independently the complete 19.th century.
Now I must say: probably we (Germany) were the last hard defence against the NWO at this time.
Saying this means NOT that all was good in this time, but this will never be anywhere...
AntoniusMUC 4 weeks ago 3
@tachelesreden Your technology used into the armored vehicle industry was the best, late in the '30s. However, this technology wasn't used to make the world a better place, but murder men, women and children. But that was just the past, we cannot blame the actual Germany for it. Greetings from Romania.
ShadowzTV 3 weeks ago
@tachelesreden Many of us are aware that there is a line between heritage and hate. You should be proud of your history and not be shameful, the wehrmacht fought on against odds that they knew were not good. Instead of surrender, they fought for the end. We believe they fought for their land, their people and their country. Hitler feared his army greatly the SS was evidence that he did not trust them with his life. They are your ancestors, and they deserve honor, and respect.
GermanWarRemembrance 1 week ago 5
@tachelesreden They should make you proud that your German. They fought greatly and died honorably. The Wehrmacht was not responsible for any death camps, SS guarded these camps. Because of what they did everyone knows to respect Germany.
GermanWarRemembrance 1 week ago 4
@tachelesreden. You probably were not alive during that period in Germany history, so you should feel no guilt as a person from Germnay or for your country. Those events were unfortunate. As far as the German army, the Germans were superior soldiers. According to one author, 100 German soldiers was equivalent to 120 Allied soldiers and on the Eastern Front, the ration was greater, 100 Germans to 200 Russians. Their equipment was excellent as well. Best Regards from U.S.
stickboy1010 16 hours ago
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oscarthegrouch68 1 month ago
@MrOrmesby yeah the 88mm gun of the Tiger and King Tiger could destroy anything it faced at will and at ranges where no enemy gun could do any damage at all. But the design of the tank let the gun down. The allied realized it made very little sense to tie up that much limited resources into building a small number of tanks with extreme capabilities when what they needed was a large number of not so highly sophisticated and not so fragile tanks in order to win the war.
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
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MrOrmesby 1 month ago
@MrOrmesby So now you're agreeing with yourself?..LOL..
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
Amo los tiger
TheKonistiger 2 months ago
@MrOrmesby Yeah the Sherman gun was absolutely ridiculous, it looks like a pea shooter compared to the German 88mm gun. The Tiger was great because of its 88mm gun. Not because of its size. The German designers were incompetent because what they did was counterproductive. They should have realized that they could have made the Tiger much lighter armored simply because the 88mm gun outgunned everything else. Instead they just made it even heavier...
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife German designers incompetent? You just lost all credibility in this discussion..
bengtsson45 2 months ago 7
@bengtsson45 The German designers charged with solving the problems of the Tiger tank making the King Tiger tank was incompetent in terms of the problems they tried to solve were made even worse. The Tiger had engine and transmission problems and they just made it worse by making the king Tiger even more heavy and under powered. The Tiger was extremely hard to repair in battle field conditions and the King Tiger was even more complicated which made it virtually impossible to repair.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife This is not the fault of the designers but due to very limited resources during the end of the war. The German designers where many years ahead in there thinking.
The designers wanted a fuel injected 1,000 PS engine with a whole new transmission along with a 10.5 cm gun and stabilized sights, stabilized main gun, automatic ammunition feed, a Zeiss stereoscopic range finder and an overpressure and air filtration system.
bengtsson45 2 months ago
@bengtsson45 You're actually contradicting your own point. You say it's not the designers fault and then go on to explain about the limited German resources. Yeah the designers were in fact well aware about their limited resources because they sat there in the middle of the air raids. They knew they didn't have all the steel in the world yet they made a heavier tank needing more steel despite the Tiger being more than well armored. That's the definition of incompetence right there.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife It´s not like the designers was given much to say in the end. The order was very strict about what they wanted and how they wanted it. One of the first things too be denied for the designers was a new transmission and engine.
The designers are not to blame for this. To even suggest that German desigers where incompetent show´s a high level of ignorance and you would not find a single military historian to agree with you.
bengtsson45 2 months ago
OH MY GOD!
This video has been done by professional! Period.
MeskovicZ 2 months ago
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jager52 2 months ago
Tiger! Really hero of WW II!
John72777 2 months ago
awesome video..
HDRdark 2 months ago
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mxd8889995 2 months ago
Anyone who know the name of the music?
MrVacak1 2 months ago
@MrVacak1 the name of the band is called 'bangkok dangerous' the songs title is ''fate"
oscarthegrouch68 1 month ago
indeed! The KWK L/56 gun was a extremely potent weapon, but as the germans were now up against the soviet 85mm & 100mm armed t-34's, the KWK L/70 gun and its longer barrel, larger propellant discharge quickly restored the balance of firepower for the germans. This was the most fearsome weapon of the war, and could penetrate armour of the JS/2 &Js/3 with relative ease. JS/3 , like pershing, came too late to be called a tank killer... thanks 4 comment anhow... Oscarthegrouch
oscarthegrouch68 2 months ago
90 mm gun on m-26 pershing was also a formidable gun.... it came into the war too late to be considered a tank killer even though its armour piercing capabilities were quite good
oscarthegrouch68 2 months ago
@oscarthegrouch68 Yes but optics sucked as any other USA tank gun and it lost penetration over long distances, it was effective against the Tiger frontal plate only under 800-1000m, while the Tiger could pierce the Pershing from virtually any distance with APCR rounds.
Ext3rmin4tor 2 months ago
the answer to your Q? = "Fate" by Bangkok Dangerous...... you can see it on you tube
oscarthegrouch68 2 months ago
Could somebody provide the source of music, and possibly the artist? i looked at the comments and it has been asked countless times, unfortunately nobody knew or posted an answer : (
SoulSnatching 3 months ago
his crews... or her crews?
excellent work
5 *s
the82spartans 3 months ago
To Blackhawk, also on the subject matter, the lend/lease pact was starting to dissintergrate as was the feeling between the 2 continents. stalin wasted millions of citizens without any mercy ( the yanks were fairly wasteful with the repple depple system; aka the replacement system). I would rather be speakin german 2day instead of fuckin commo, at least u might have a few basic rights... not like the commos as eveidenced still to the day... cheers
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
To Blackhawk, the soviets didnt go bust till the space race fucked em in the late 50's early 60's. If the might of the entire german resourses, panzer elite, luftwaffe, heeres,kreigsmarine etc couldnt crack the ruskies, surely the seppos would have certainly struggled. As i said, Patton was a war mongering fuck wit and the yanks shut his big trap permantely shut, 4 good reason.in 44 the soviet airforce was pumpin hard, evidenced in history.. cheers
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
yep, patton wanted to bash the ruskies all the way back to red square, but the seppos (yanks) knew this was impossible! just imagine pissant shermeans against t-34s, not a hope in hell.. thats why they shut pattons trap permantly ... fuck patton and his third army.. seppos would of needed13,500 tigers to that.. flol
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
@oscarthegrouch68 Beating the soviet union was far from impossible for the americans. The soviet economy was about to collapse. The western part of the soviet union was reduced to rubble and stalin had to keep up an army of many milions. The americans couldve pushed on and destroyed the soviet tanks just like they did with the german armor: airforce.
TheBlackhawk123 3 months ago
@TheBlackhawk123 your fulla shit
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
@TheBlackhawk123
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
@TheBlackhawk123
But the airforce isn`t the answer to everything in war. Especially in the winter airforce is nearly useless. For example, look to the end of ´44 in the ardennes when relatively weak german forces drove the allied lines back.
And even if you`re able to drive back the russians to their homecountry,would you really chase them? War in Russia is a terrible nightmare; you can not compare airfields, streets and (especially) weather conditions to the western european counterparts.
frodoringbearer 3 months ago
@frodoringbearer Don't forget USA wasn't in Europe only. They had the Marines in the Far East, and they could have made an anphinious assault attacking from both sides, plus they had support of UK which was the largest Empire of the world.
Ext3rmin4tor 2 months ago
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SteelKain 3 months ago
thats how he came down with a mysterious virus, went to hospital and never recovered... think about that eh? seppos didnt want war with commos
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
U.S. General Patton had high respect for the German soldier and he wished he had tanks like the Tiger and Panther. At the end of the war , Patton wanted to have the Germans join up with the allies and wipeout Russia.
captjim007 3 months ago
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oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
does anyone know the author/composer of this music?
oscarthegrouch68 3 months ago
Ihr dürft nicht vergessen ,das alle Zufuhren für Deutschland gesperrt wurden um den Krieg zu erzeugen!Hitler war nur der Vorwand um D plattzumachen(Wirtschaftlich) !
dennie6666 3 months ago
@dennie6666
Ach ja? Gab es ein Embargo z.B. beim Öl, welches die US-Firma Standard Oil bis 1940/41 reichlich an Deutschland verkaufte? Erst durch diese Lieferungen, war es der Wehrmacht möglich ihre(treibstoffintensiven) Blitzkriege durchzuführen.
Und wirtschaftlich war "des Führers Reich" schon 1939 bankrott - trotz der Annexionen Österreichs und der Tschecheslowakei! (und moralisch übrigens erst recht).
frodoringbearer 3 months ago
Skvělé video a moc dojemné,čest wehrmachtu!
milouszek 4 months ago
die waffentechnik ist bis - sogar -
heute
meist überlegen
wäre es damals "33 - 45 "
dazu gekommen ,
das zu erkennen
hätten wir heute kein berlin - sondern " germania "
wie gut oder wie schlecht das ist/wäre überlasse ich euch
osnajo 4 months ago
Schiere Ueberlegenheit, 40-50flugzeuge der yankees kamen auf ein deutsches...
die 133 eingesetzten Tiger in der Normandie hauten schon viele Shermans und britische cromwells weg.... aber wie sollen Tiger Flugzeuge angreifen?
der rest ging durch den Treibstoff verloren, WEIL die allies das alles in Deutschland wegbombten... auch die nahrung fuer die juden in den kz's...
reflecthofgeismar 4 months ago
ich möchte gerne an die eriinern die den tiger fuhren und die durch ihn starben,
ihr seid nicht vergessen, wir denken an euch.
Fuarzendadl 4 months ago
best vid about the legendary TIGER, love that tanks.
greatings from Norway
battydtno1 4 months ago
Ausserdem wäre es bestimmt intelligenter gewesen sich auf die beiden Standardjäger zu konzentrieren und diese weiterzuentwickeln.Die Me109k und die Ta152 waren 1945 mehr als konkurrenzfähig.Dann hätte man den allierten Bomberverbänden zahlenmäßig ganz anders entgegentreten können.
Soviel zur Luftwaffe-eigentlich geht es im Video ja um den Tiger.(auch davon gab es viel zu wenige-Konzentration auf Panther waer besser gewesen)
Deinem letzten Satz kann ich allerdings uneingeschränkt zustimmen.;-)
frodoringbearer 4 months ago
Die deutschen bauten Qualität, die Tomies Quantität
Zinkiebrinki 4 months ago
@Zinkiebrinki
Tja, und was hat im Endeffekt gewonnen...?
frodoringbearer 4 months ago
@frodoringbearer
Die qualität. Ohne Luftüberlegenheit hätte amerika die nazis nicht zurückdrängen können.
Wäre der 2. weltkrieg ein kampf zwischen Panzern gewesen, hätte Nazideutschland Amerika "weggeputzt"
Es war aber nicht so und nur deshalb verlor Nazideutschland an der Westfront
undertaker0629 4 months ago
@undertaker0629
Aber der Konflikt lies sich damals schon nicht als eine Auseinandersetzung von einzelnen Waffengattungen sehen.Nach einer kurzen Pattsituation in der Bocage wurde die Wehrmacht schnell aus Frankreich gedrängt. Viele Tigerpanzer wurden nicht durch Feindeinwirkung zerstört sondern mangels Sprit aufgegeben.Selber schuld wenn man die Rüstungswirtschaft, Nachschub und Logistik gnadenlos vernachlässigt und den Krieg als rein militärische Auseinandersetzung betrachtet.
frodoringbearer 4 months ago
@frodoringbearer
Ja du hast natürich recht. Aber es gab ca insgesamt 100 tiger in der normandie und mehr als 50 davon wurden von Bombern ausgeschaltet
Hätte Deutschland damals ein bisschen mehr auf Projekte wie Die Me262 gesetzt, dann wäre das vlt. Nicht passiert.
Aber glücklicherweise hat Deutschland verloren. Nicht vorzustellen, wie es heute aussehen würde, wenn Deutrschland gewonnen hätte ...
undertaker0629 4 months ago
@undertaker0629
V.a. bei der Luftwaffe hat das Dritte Reich sein chaotisches Gesicht gezeigt.Es sind ja einige Flugzeugtypen entwickelt worden; dann ein paar hundert produziert und schließlich hat man gemerkt das es das Modell "doch nicht bringt"(z.B. Me 210,Me 410,He 177).Die Me262 hätte nur was gebracht wenn sie 2-3 Jahre früher frontreif gewesen wäre.Neben der Entwicklung muss man ja Produktion, Erstellung von ausreichend Kerosin und Ausbildung der Flieger berücksichtigen. All das dauert.
frodoringbearer 4 months ago
@undertaker0629 schau dir mal die doku an..hitlers krieg???was gouido knopp uns verschweigt
mfg
omen4414 4 months ago
@omen4414
danke.. werde ich machen
undertaker0629 4 months ago
@undertaker0629
..und lass Dich dabei bitte nicht durch den Pseudo-Dokumentationsstil, der sonoren Hintergrundstimme und v.a. der Mischung aus (Halb-)Wahrheiten, Lügen und Weglassen von Tatsachen verleiten.
Das Bildmaterial ist ganz interessant, aber die Grundaussage des Machwerks total irreführend und verharmlosend.
frodoringbearer 4 months ago
@frodoringbearer
Ja, diese Doku muss man kritisch betrachten ...
Das ist ja fast schon eine verherrlichung Hitlers. Viel zu einseitig. Hätte die Doku auch die schlechten seiten Hitlers gezeigt, wäre das ja ganz ok. Die Judenverfolgung und die Euthanasie wurde komplett rasugelassen und das gehört nuneinmal zu einer Doku über Hitler. Mag zwar sein, dass unsere Geschichtsbücher viele Märchen erzählen aber das ist echt dreist
undertaker0629 4 months ago
the greatest enemy is one with the best tactics and the best equiptment that is why WWII is listed at the top of all wars that have happened in history the germans made too many advancments
alexshoot 5 months ago
Königstiger >> ALL
goostyler 5 months ago
great pictures...what is the music artist?
preludebb 5 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von GermanWarRemembrance
I think the Tiger is a little bit overrated.You have to take many things into accout not only armament.Costs,performance in terrain,armor,speed and off course its main weapon.I think the best Tank in WW2 was the Panther.Its long-barrelled high volocity gun performed better than tiger's 88mm gun.The French even equipped some units with Panther tanks after the war!
Ahornblatt2000 5 months ago
@Ahornblatt2000 Yes the Panther was the best tank overall in WW2, losing only to production to the T-34.
But the Tiger was more then a simple tank, it was an engineering wonder.
himmelsfaust 5 months ago
Please, please, please someone find out what this music is. It's awesome !!!
60saxon 5 months ago
@60saxon
Yes sir, at your service - It`s "Bangkok Dangerous - Fate".
frodoringbearer 5 months ago
@frodoringbearer
Thanks for that.
131Tigerlover 5 months ago
Thank you. Could somebody provide the source of music, and possibly the artist?
hecmireles 5 months ago
Seeehr schöner Film mit tollen Fotos!!!
Gruß Oli
sunniva1184 5 months ago
My favorite tank of all time :)
xXkillerXx619 6 months ago 2
8:30 russian tanks destroyed.
most succesfull tank in human history. no other tank wom more battles than the King TIger
HOMM5 6 months ago 8
@HOMM5 Tiger was good but not the best. Tiger II "Kingtiger" was not good at all. It was slow and had tons of mechanical failures. Most Tiger II's were abandoned by the germans instead of being destroyed in battle.
The Tiger I was good in combat 1 vs 1... But as an allround tank is was not that good.
It is believed by many that the Panzerkampfwagen 5 "Panther" was the best tank of second world war.
Fast, balanced armour and firepower with its 75 milimeter gun. Average production.
VictumRoManius 3 months ago
@VictumRoManius
Please don't call the Tiger II slow, it was the fastest heavy tank of the war with a max roadspeed of 41km/h.
It also had excelelnt mobility thanks to it's wide tracks and powered steering thuogh it did suffer from beeing rushed into service, never given the chance for the problems to be ironed out.
Dreachon 3 months ago
@Dreachon Indeed, the Tiger Ausf. B was nearly unstoppable, it could counter even the IS2 model 1944 which was the best Russian heavy tank. Only the 17 pdr with APDS rounds was a real menace for the Tiger Ausf. B, no other cannon in the war had a chance to pierce the armor frontally. The problem was that many factories producing it were destroyed by allied bombing and that in late 1944 Germany didn't have enough fuel to make it fully operational.
Ext3rmin4tor 2 months ago
@Ext3rmin4tor
For the APDS it needed to be very close as in those days such special ammo was very inaccurate.
AS for the Tiger II, it was never given a chance to get fully worked out, the germans already had an update program planned for it including a new 1000 hp engibne and other small adjustment.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon
IIRC 1 firefly knocked out wittmanns entire tiger group (chances are him too) with 1 shot each at iirc something like 800-1000m without missing, not to bad for an "inaccurate" set of ammo eh?
But i agree, the tiger didnt get a chance for the kinks, but even if it did, by the time those "kinks" got sorted it would be against tanks like the centurion and likely the 20 pwnder which was double to power of the 88mm
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg
Do not insult both our intelligence by posting such a false comment.
Wittmann's group was not atatcked atll by a lone firefly, anyone claiming is just lying.
They were attacked by 2 british formations at a distance of between 500 and 800m away and the Canadians who were as close as 150m from Wittman.
APDS was not used as at this time it was not supplied to fireflies at all, so drop the act.
First Centurion models were also armed with the 17pdr.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon
A historian proved that the canadian shermans were not able to knock out 3 of them, but that a firefly of a yeomanry reg. was in the perfect position (and recorded as such) of shooting and knocking out 3 tigers fairly recently (ie in the last 2 years iirc),
BTW learn to read, "likely the 20 pounder" doesnt equal "with 20 pounder" i know full well what it was armed with.
As for the APDS round, according to the guy firing the gun of the firefly, he was using it.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg
Dude, they kept field studies in France about a few years ago, the Canadians were within 150m of Wittmann, 3 tigers were knocked by the british while Wittmans was knocked out by the Canadians.
I can also say if that is what the guy is claiming then he is lying for 2 very obvious reason, 1 is that 17 pounder APDs wasn't delivered to front units until we get to august and 2 that APDS could only be use at less than 500m as beyond it could barely hit a target
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon... Seen that documentry... and have to agree with you that it was the Canadians that destroyed Wittmans Tiger... I am English... but credit, where credit is due..
MrOrmesby 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg
As for you knowing what it was armed with, no you don't because if you did you would know it carried a 17 pounder.
The 20 pounder wasn't introduced until 1948.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg ... By August 1944... sorting out the "kinks".. in the Tiger was a moot point... it had stopped being produced... attention had shifted to the Konigs Tiger and the Panther... the Panther had time to sort a lot of it's kinks out...(and became one of the best tanks of the war)... Konigs Tiger didn't have the luxury of time to do so... am certain that the Germans would have done so... If given the time,,, but time had become it's enemy
MrOrmesby 2 months ago
@MrOrmesby Yeah in true incompetent German fashion they decided the problems of the Tiger being under powered, breaking down and being to heavy would be solved by making the King Tiger even more heavy, more under powered and even more complicated.
Had they realized that the excellent 88mm gun was the only useful thing on the Tiger they had built a lighter tank they could produce in far greater numbers with the devastating 88mm gun but they didn't. Most King Tigers newer made it into battle!
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
Sorry to say but your just talking nonsense, german engineers were not incompetent as they were able to produce a 70 tonne tank that was faster than any soviet heavy tank and was far better at crossing rough terrain than a sherman.
A Tiger Ii could turn on the spot, neither a sherman or T-34 could do this.
Despite 70 tonnes the tiger II and a weak engine it had a better fuel consumption than the Panther both on and off road.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon Actually you're just talking pure shit about the fuel consumption of the King Tiger. The Panther and King Tiger both used the Maybach HL230 and the panther was some 20 tons lighter and therefor had better fuel consumption which is relative because even the Panther had really bad fuel consumption and the King Tiger was horrendous.
You clearly do not know shit about anything you fucking idiot...
The King Tiger was know for just breaking down constantly!
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
I know more than a fool liek you that can do nothing but posting soviet propaganda and who seesm to have a problem with reading, I said it was fatser than any soviet HEAVY tank.
Remove yourself from this discussion as you know nothing, Tiger II did not constantly break down, it's an old false myths that idiots like you still believe in.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon Actually when you start saying such stupid shit that the King Tiger had better fuel economy than the Panther although the King Tiger shared the same engine as the Panther which were some 20 tons lighter making the Panther have much better fuel economy then you're fucking stupid... stupid ignorant fuck...
Don't fucking claim you know anything when you say suck stupid shit..
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
The only person who can't claim that is you, your just going of old and outdated propaganda.
Tiger II enjoyed better fuel consumption on and off road than the Panther and better off-road than the Tiger I.
Go read it all in the books by mr. Jentz.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon It's actually a historic fact that both the Panther and the King Tiger used the same Maybach HL230 petrol engine. It's a fact. If you say anything else you're a complete fucking idiot. The engines are still in the fucking tanks that survived. How the fuck do not not realize that. It's the same engine.With the King Tiger being much heavier than the Panther weighing 50% more or some 26 tonnes and using the same engine your statement about the King Tiger having better fuel economy is SHIT
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
Once again wrong, the Tiger II was far better, it scored also better in servicibility comparable to the panzer IV and scoring far better than the Panther.
What comes next your gonna tell me another ridicoulos thing like the Tiger I and II were slow moving and cumbersome monsters?
German engineers were alot more competent than you as they did know how to make great weapons.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon Wrong about what you fucking idiot? you're just making up stupid lies constantly. It's a fucking fact that both the Panther and later Tiger versions as well as the king Tiger used the Maybach HL230 and when you have a vehicle that ways 50% more it can't by definition have a better fuel consumption! How stupid are you.
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
The only stupid person here is you as they did not use the exact same engine they used different versions.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon It's a historical fact that more King Tigers broke down than actually made it into battle. The engine and transmission on the King Tiger was so overloaded because it was basically the same taken from the Tiger tank.
During the winter campaign in Russia the Tiger and King Tigers were basically just stationary of the strain of ice and snow on the transmission and primary drive.
Further more their overlapping road wheel design was terrible for battle field repair.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
During the winter battles the Tiger saw plenty of action, it wasn't reduced to beeing stationary, we have have plenty of pictures, reports and footage of Tiger in winetr schemes moving around and fighting.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon Now you can't even read anymore. I wrote "Tiger and King Tigers were basically just stationary" which is correct. You're referring to Nazi propaganda material and not to reality. The reality is that both the Tiger and later the King Tiger had so big problems with ice and snow in their drive wheel and their primary drive that they were ordered to basically NOT be moved around. Further more the cold made the weak transmission even more fragile and they broke down all the time.It's a fact
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
Wrong again, such orders were not given and Tiger formations spent even the winter going from battlefield to battlefield.
This is why they never got the regular maintenance they needed to keep functioning without problems as they were constantly moving around.
Read some decent books.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon Actually NO you're a fucking IDIOT. Both the Tiger and especially the king Tiger was so heavy they couldn't go over most bridges bridges and they had a nightmare of a time getting them anywhere. Then King Tiger was so big they even had to take the tracks off just to have it on rail cars going to the front.
You're an idiot... a fucking moron that claims the most stupid things ever.. go fuck yourself I am done with your stupidity
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
And more wrong statements, both the Tiger I and Tiger II had plenty of bridges to cross here in europe were people knew how to build a good infrastructure, problems coems in Russia were they know nothing about building roads and bridges.
As for the tracks this was also for the Tiger I but it was only needed if the train transporting would meet another train, if not the combat tracks would stay on.
These tracks could be fully switched in 30 to 40min.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon Actually NO, the small bridges around the french countryside were NOT made for a 70 tonnes monster. No fucking way you fucking idiot
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
One doesn't need a 70 ton bridge to get a 70 ton tank acros, we have recorded instances of churchill crocodiles crossing a 9 ton bridge and Ferdinand crossing a 25 ton bridge, both were succesfully crossed.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon Further more the King Tiger was so heavy and so wide the Germans could barely get it into battle and had to construct special bridges for it to get to the front.
It was so big and wide they had to take the belts off it to even transport it on rail cars.
Servicing the King Tiger was an absolute nightmare and they had nothing but engine and transmission problems. They were literally sitting ducks in the winter months. It had a good gun in the 88mm though.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@Dreachon When you say it was faster than any soviet tank that's absolutely bullshit. The Tiger and especially King Tiger had one major flaw and that was engine and transmission. It correct that the theoretical top speed was higher but since all King Tigers was speed restricted due a fatal flawed main gear design and a ridiculous fuel consumption they were in fact slower than the T-34 and the T-34 had much wider tracks in comparison making it go over terrain much better.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
Read what I posted you idiot, I said soviet HEAVY tank, T-34 is not a heavy tank but i guess to you it is.
T-34 did not have much wider tracks in proportion and with the T-34/85 it had has it's advantage in corssing difficult terrain while the Tiger I and II still had it.
Dreachon 2 months ago
@Dreachon There you fucking go again you moron arguing against historical fact you fucking idiot. Yeah the T-34 had much wider tracks in comparison with both the Tiger and King Tiger. The T-34 weighed in at around 30 tonnes where the Tiger was almost 59 tonnes and the King Tiger was at 70 tonnes. The T-34 had 55cm track, Tiger has 75cm tracks and king Tiger had 80cm tracks.
Since the Tiger weighted more than twice as much as the T-34 it should have had 110cm tracks, and the King Tiger 125 cm!
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
No, the one going against historical facts is you, you are completely leaving out the lenght of the machine and the suspension which was far superieur in both the Tiger I and II, why the hell do you think that both the Tiger I and II enjoyed such a relatieve lowe ground pressure.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@Dreachon How stupid do one have to be you? Really, you just make up bullshit all day long and keep lying you retard. We all know how long the T-34 was and in fact although it weighed in at half the Tiger's weight it was in fact LONGER than the Tiger. It's a fucking fact you moron. It's inches but it proves you know nothing!
The Tiger had double the ground pressure than the T-34 and the King Tiger came in at 30% more given it was a foot longer and had 80 cm tracks. You know NOTHING bitch..
SquirrelFromGradLife 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
Given you seem to have a problem with seperating facts and propaganda here's the real ground pressure for the 3 tanks in question.
Tiger I: 1.05kg/cm2, Tiger II: 1.03kg/cm2 and the T-34/85: 0.87kg/cm2.
Dreachon 1 month ago
@HOMM5 this is not the konigtiger
thetruefarbauti 2 months ago
@HOMM5 If the Tiger was so successful then why did the Germans lose? The Tiger was basically ridiculous but the infamous 88mm gun was absolutely excellent. The Germans could easily have taken the 88mm gun and put it into a smaller tank they could build a larger numbers. The Tiger was over engineered, under powered, too heavy and used too many resources the Germans didn't have.
Actually the Germans lost more Tigers to breakdowns than to enemy fire.
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
Thanks for this great video. Beautiful music too.
Tiger I. A true legend.
feriekonto 6 months ago
Panther had the superior armour but he didnt have the 88 to put up with an IS-2 or the other heavy tanks.
Teufelsnachbar667 6 months ago
@Teufelsnachbar667 the high velocity 75 mm l-70 of the Panther had better armour penetration than the Tiger's 88 and yes, the few than 50 tones is-2 (not a heavy tank as the Tiger or king Tiger) was not a problem for the Panther even at more than 1500m and about armour. The side armour of the tiger is better than the Panther and the fron is 100mm vertical for the Tiger vs 80mm sloped for the Panther, just the same in combat conditions.
tonidmc 6 months ago
@tonidmc Well i was reading a article by a german tank commander who tells a story about an encounter with an is-2.
They shot 4 times from 100 meters and all hits simply bounced off . They were only able to destroy it with an shot between turret and hull. He also said that it was not possible to destroy an is-2 over the distance of more then 400 meters.
But he was probably wrong, because he didnt see your math right ;)
Teufelsnachbar667 6 months ago
@Teufelsnachbar667 I read a lots of articles of ww2 and the is2 was so bad welded that a shots froms pak 40's at short distances made a devastating efects blowing the amunition... so that could be a real article but the is2 wasn't so hard to destroy
tonidmc 6 months ago
@tonidmc cool, didnt know that it wasnt so ahrd to destroy it. On the other hand the most articels show that the russians had a hard time finding good commanders and crew members for the tanks. I think that the training was a nother big advantage of german tank troops.
Teufelsnachbar667 6 months ago
@Teufelsnachbar667 yes, the training of the armoured soviet troops wasn't the best but they had the enormous advantatge of their massive production. that was the final way to defeat the germans.
tonidmc 6 months ago
@Teufelsnachbar667
One of the problems with the iS-2 was the poor quality of it's cast armour, this led to many IS-2 having the equivelant of 90 or even 50mm of armour.
Recorded cases exist of 7.5cm L48 penetrating frontal armour, 8.8cm L56 penetrating from long range and the most embarressing was the penetration of the lower frontal plate by a german anti-tank rifle although I more believe this to have been the bigger 2.8cm schwere panzerbuchse.
Dreachon 6 months ago
@Dreachon Quite right, quality control was a huge problem with Soviet tanks. Armor and ammunition were frequently performing far under what they should have on paper. While the armor of the IS-2 looks impressive, it's quality issues hampered it's effectiveness. Non penetrating hits had a pretty good chance of creating spalling and killing the crew. It's gun also had problems. Ammo storage was poor, and very little could be carried, and reloading times were very long.
PkayerZxz2 5 months ago
пантера кстати, полностью построена на основе русского т 34
TheMokrinskiy 7 months ago
German Tank development has been superior for a long time. With the allround Panther, over-engineered Tiger I and Tiger II ( Ideas ahead of productioncapabilities ) the germans set the highest standards in WW2.
Then they had 11 year pause before development started on the Leopard 1. Entered service in 1965 and sold to a range of countries.
Succeded by Leopard 2 , now the best allround mbt in the world.
The German Cats.......... just gets better...........
Namtov 7 months ago
this stand for white power forever!!!!!!!!
DarioAc87 7 months ago
@DarioAc87 f*ck off racist
lUnseenSniperl 7 months ago
Years ahead of its time,I stood in the turret of a Tiger back in 1993 no hull though! that tank is now the only fully restored Tiger in the world number 131 at Bovington UK the most popular exibit by far,looks good even next to modern tanks,every now and again you can hear it roar.
elswick1542 7 months ago
this epic music is called "fate" from the "Bangkok Dangerous"-soundtrack ...personnally i prefer WW2-footage with brutal music! enter: Bolt Thrower - anti-tank or enter: Korn - Mr. Rogers ...crazy stuff! :) cheers
1bottlejackdaniels 7 months ago
Panthers... The best and most beautiful tanks ever. It's the truth... We have to admit it.
Tagananero 7 months ago
thanks for the great video, the music is wonderful as well!!
donaldbeck73 7 months ago
this legend is michael wittman
konigstiger100 7 months ago
Da muss ich TheNeo20012 zustimmen umsonst galt die Wehrmacht nicht als beste Armee der damaligen Zeit, die einzige Armee die selbst den Amerikanern in den Arsch treten konnte zwar nur kurz aber bei der misslichen Lage. Ich wünschte mir es gäbe heute noch mehr von ihnen, da würde es so Überfälle wie in den U-Bahnen wie sie in letzter Zeit statt fanden nicht geben.
alex842007 7 months ago
@alex842007 Damals haben die Soldaten zusammengehalten. Die Wehrmacht hatte viele fähige Offiziere wobei Manstein und Guderian für mich schon herausstechen. Ohne Manstein wäre die Ostfront nach Stalingrad vermutlich schon zusammengebrochen und Operation Zitadelle hätte es so nicht gegeben.
Strizie1982 7 months ago
@alex842007 sicher nicht; weil dann solche idioten wie du im lager wären!
siggisieg 7 months ago
deutsche soldaten haben ihr leben geopfert nur für ein idioten wie hitler..... mein opa war an der ostfront und er konnte ihn garnicht leiden... und nicht nur er.. hitler hatt denn untergang gebracht bevor der krieg anfing und wenn einer meint das die wehrmacht alles nazis waren der hatt keine ahnung und sollten einfach nur mal die fresse halten.. ich bin stolz auf die soldaten der wehrmacht was sie trotz ein idioten wie hitler geleistet haben..
TheNeo20012 7 months ago 3
Beatiful! Our Brothers in Arms! Against the communist beast in the east!
Greetings from Finland!
Diablotion 8 months ago 40
@Diablotion greetings back from germany ^^ nice that people from other countrys say: i like germany and their army. good video
MareMoertlbauer 3 months ago
@Diablotion I like your comment! This is a beauty indeed! Liebe Gruesse aus deine Ungarische Kamaraden!
FFHEINZ 3 months ago
@Diablotion ... Who defeated and humilated you both.
VictumRoManius 3 months ago
what's the music in this video? Magnificent.
scumbaguk 8 months ago
Germany perfected Tank warfare. Now they're only remembered for their war crimes. Western Propaganda must stop
Awesomeduud 8 months ago 2
The Beauty of warfare engineering.
6062006au 8 months ago
Thanks again! A truly remarkable video. You do great work and I appreciate it!
1ant2beck 8 months ago
people its about the tank, not about propaganda.
Phenomic1337 8 months ago
Your sacrifice will never be forgotten.
RIP fighters of peace and freedom against the Zionist world domination.
Radagis2 8 months ago
Wir am Bodensee jagen gern braune Scheisser...
miromanism 8 months ago
Lass m raten..kurze Haare?
miromanism 8 months ago
Nazipropaganda..
miromanism 8 months ago
@miromanism linksnaiver schwachkopf !!!
DawnSt3v3 8 months ago
@miromanism wo ist das Nazipropaganda, du siehst hir nur einen Panzer der ne Legende ist!
deuschritter 8 months ago
In my view the Panter is equal to the Tiger, is you look at the history.
The panter is A legend to trust me!
Phenomic1337 8 months ago
Wonderful Video, love the soundtrack too.
Mantisman630 8 months ago