Basically, The Regan/Bush administration helped to cement Saddam's rule in Iraq in hopes of countering Iran, while ignoring the atrocities he committed. In simple terms, they helped put a monster into power, and would later have to shoot him at great cost to everyone.
Yes - saying in one speech that Saddam was a sponsor of terrorism and was amassing WMD and very dangerous and in another saying that it never happened is very consistent (/sarc). Incredible how you can just sit there and say something that is obviously not even close to being true. Have you no shame?
That new Pentagon report vindicates Gore. He was right that Saddam was recruiting, harboring, arming, training and funding thousands of Iraqi and non Iraqi suicide bombers and terrorists.
Interesting. It seems all Al Gore likes to do is insult people who are not in the same party as him. Now he says there is no problem in Iraq and there was no reason to go there in the first place. Aparently he forgot about what he said here.
dangerous thinking there, your arguement sounds like 'if you support terrorists, then later on you have to invade them' I believe the point is, 'just leave well enough alone, interventionism created the problem, so don't try and solve it with the same thing that got you in this mess'
Interesting thinking. I was just pointing out how Al Gore changes his views on things when people he hates agree with him the first time. Unfortunately I know people that are like this, they are very annoying and insult everyone around them. I am not saying you are one of them because there is no evidence to support that theroy, but I respect your opinion.
That is not a response to what he/she said - he/she was commenting on Gore's dishonesty in saying one thing at one time and now saying exactly the opposite - he/she was making no such argument in that post.
Actually Iran and Iraq is ruled by far right bigots like Bush, so rightists like you would be better of living in Iran than leftists that oppose far right ignorance that you see in Iran ect.
it was the neo-cons and the CIA, it wasnt clinton! The Project for the NEw American Century sent clinton a ltter in 98 to tell him to invade iraq and clinton didnt jump on that.
Yeah. This was 15 years ago and Folks, clinton and bush bombed Iraq but never invaded. Even Cheney was talking about how it was a bad idea to invade. Al gore would have never invaded. plain and simple. ONly bush and his neo-con psycho's orchestrated this lie of a war.
The rise of Jihadism in the 90's during Clinton's presidency is what led to 9/11. Clinton, not Bush, set a policy of "regime change" for Hussein. Bush carried it out. If "lies" were used in justification, they are George Tenet's lies from the Clinton administration. Remember Tenet's "Slam Dunk". Tenet was Clinton's CIA chief, it was Clinton's intel. If Bush made a mistake, it was believing anything that came from the Clinton team.
@scj16 That's funny when most of the Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq" if war wasn't necessary Why even give Bush that right if they had no intentions of going to war and to say Al Gore would of never invaded Iraq how can you be sure? We will never know What Al Gore would of would of not done.. I believe he would of went to war Al & Bill bombed Iraq in 1993 and 1998 so he would of went to war that's for sure
Al Gore is a hypocrytical know nothing ass hole just do a little research I don't need to hear anything else he has to say I got music playing now heard too much of his crap already.
Really, all you have to do is listen to what they say themselves. There was no reason for Saddam to have maintained a terror training facility with a 707 mock up if he wasn't allowing it to be used by external terror groups for training. One of the planners of the 1993 WTC attack flew from New York to Baghdad for refuge. Now, today, al-Qaeda says Iraq is their central war against the west. It's really simple. Listen to THEM!
THAT'S your justification for the worst blunder in US foreign policy history?! Saddam wasn't responsible for 9/11. Why are the Bush's so cozy with the oppressive Saudi elite? All the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia & Bush Inc gave the country a free pass. The fact is, Saddam didn't pose a grave threat to us at all! In fact, while Saddam was committing his greatest atrocities, the US turned a blind eye and considered him an ally.
Not my justification. Albright, Gore, Clinton, Sandy Berger, Robert Byrd all were proclaiming the threat from Saddam's WMD and terror support as far back as 1998. It was the Clinton administration that defined the U.S. policy toward Iraq as being "Regime change". Bush just believed Clinton (through George Tenet) and carried it out. It was Clinton's CIA chief that said it was a "Slam Dunk".
Wow, you aren't reading enough. Saddam supported terrorism from day one. We winked at it because he kept Iran in Check. Then, a terrorist with an Iraqi passport tried to blow up the WTC in 1993...get it? SADDAM Sponsored that!! SADDAM DID try to blow up the WTC!!
Part #3 Gore is not lying, then or now, but he is of course trying to score points against his political opposition.
Despite everyone here mixing up facts, Bush #1 did do the smart thing by not taking Baghdad. It would have been the same mess then as it is now. Unfortunately his son was not as smart as his father and let the Afghanistan effort falter in order to chase ghosts in Iraq.
Part #2 But people here are forgetting the difference that 10 years can make. The sanctions placed on Iraq ruined its WMD program so they were a false reason to invade. And the terrorists of today are Al-Qaeda, which Iraq never supported & were not in Iraq at the time. They were in Afghanistan. You wouldn't confuse the IRA or FARC with each other, why confuse different Muslim terrorist groups?
Because the common bond among the groups that threatens American today is Jihadism. Muslim groups by themselves are not threats. It's those who profess Jihadism and it is those groups bin Laden and Zawahiri seek to unite against the U.S. and fight is around the world. Jihadism is the common ideology that must be defeated and proven a failure.
Jihadism does not necessarily bind them. Just look at all of the various insurgency groups in Iraq right now which spend a great deal of time fighting each other. Al-Qaeda in Iraq vs Sunni insurgency vs Shiite insurgency. They do not share all the same goals nor cooperate with each other. There are differences that you are not recognizing.
It's not neccesarily a "bind" as much as it a common view they hold of "crusaders" and "infidels". They- the jihadists- may not necessarily like each other, but they will work together against a perceived "threat to Islam". Then they'll go back to hating each other
Part #1 The terrorists that Gore is speaking of are a different group. They performed actions supported by Iraq that were directed towards Israel and had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda (which wasn't really on the scene yet). And yes, all of the WMDs that are spoken of were had by Saddam at the time. In fact, many were supplied to him by the United States. The chemicals used to gas the Kurds were created from ingredients supplied by the US.
Abu Nidal was killed/died in a town south of Baghdad soon after the war started. He was the one that killed Klinghoffer when he captured the cruise ship Achille Laro. One of the masterminds of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center fled to Baghdad and was granted asylum by Hussein. Salman Pak was a formal, fully operational terrorist training camp with a mock up 727 used to practice hijackings. Hizbollah, Hamas, and Fatah are not known for hijackings.
Where are the scientists? WMD programs are not stacks of empty chemical/biological shell casings (found in Iraq), or centrifuges (found in Iraq), or the 1-1/2 tons of enriched uranium (found in Iraq and removed to Nevada), or the 400 tons of yellowcake uranium (found in Iraq and removed to Nevada), it is the scientists.
Positively surreal! Watching this bloviating buffoon! But this is what happens when a man has no underlying principles and just follows the whims of the times, who cares for nothing but to hear his own boring voice and to picture himself as the leader of the free world as he promotes anything that will ruin it.
You mean Bush wasn't the only one who thought Saddamn Insane had WMD? Who knew? I love the way the Liberal Dhimmicrats point fingers and cut and run when the going gets tough. These guys do a better job of playing the blame game than they do delegating.
"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!" by Alexander Hamilton.
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"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything." by Alexander Hamilton
The ability to flip/flop an issue on Gore's part is astounding. What a hypocrite! Worse, this proves he's willing to lie and deny the national interest today- regardless of his past positions- to bash Bush. Hypocrisy rules in the Democrat party!
what a moron
Redant23 2 years ago
Basically, The Regan/Bush administration helped to cement Saddam's rule in Iraq in hopes of countering Iran, while ignoring the atrocities he committed. In simple terms, they helped put a monster into power, and would later have to shoot him at great cost to everyone.
EdyKelDev 3 years ago
He sounds like Bush II, He is pretty much saying that Bush I is too much of a puss. And claiming that Iraq has weopons of mass destruction!
nef2442 3 years ago
i heard gore is claiming Global worming
has caused the current financial crisis
dasche 3 years ago
Yes - saying in one speech that Saddam was a sponsor of terrorism and was amassing WMD and very dangerous and in another saying that it never happened is very consistent (/sarc). Incredible how you can just sit there and say something that is obviously not even close to being true. Have you no shame?
ReuWil 4 years ago 2
That new Pentagon report vindicates Gore. He was right that Saddam was recruiting, harboring, arming, training and funding thousands of Iraqi and non Iraqi suicide bombers and terrorists.
ikez78 4 years ago
The is why it is so important to vote for Ron Paul. VOTE QUIMBY.. im mean Paul
krist300 4 years ago
Interesting. It seems all Al Gore likes to do is insult people who are not in the same party as him. Now he says there is no problem in Iraq and there was no reason to go there in the first place. Aparently he forgot about what he said here.
wastemanagementdude 4 years ago 3
dangerous thinking there, your arguement sounds like 'if you support terrorists, then later on you have to invade them' I believe the point is, 'just leave well enough alone, interventionism created the problem, so don't try and solve it with the same thing that got you in this mess'
luke666808g 4 years ago
Interesting thinking. I was just pointing out how Al Gore changes his views on things when people he hates agree with him the first time. Unfortunately I know people that are like this, they are very annoying and insult everyone around them. I am not saying you are one of them because there is no evidence to support that theroy, but I respect your opinion.
wastemanagementdude 4 years ago
That is not a response to what he/she said - he/she was commenting on Gore's dishonesty in saying one thing at one time and now saying exactly the opposite - he/she was making no such argument in that post.
ReuWil 4 years ago
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Nuke Isreal,and end all wars.
gaatheistsociety 4 years ago
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Ron Paul for President
atturgalsemaj 4 years ago
Actually Iran and Iraq is ruled by far right bigots like Bush, so rightists like you would be better of living in Iran than leftists that oppose far right ignorance that you see in Iran ect.
Faeden 4 years ago
it was the neo-cons and the CIA, it wasnt clinton! The Project for the NEw American Century sent clinton a ltter in 98 to tell him to invade iraq and clinton didnt jump on that.
scj16 4 years ago
Yeah. This was 15 years ago and Folks, clinton and bush bombed Iraq but never invaded. Even Cheney was talking about how it was a bad idea to invade. Al gore would have never invaded. plain and simple. ONly bush and his neo-con psycho's orchestrated this lie of a war.
scj16 4 years ago
The rise of Jihadism in the 90's during Clinton's presidency is what led to 9/11. Clinton, not Bush, set a policy of "regime change" for Hussein. Bush carried it out. If "lies" were used in justification, they are George Tenet's lies from the Clinton administration. Remember Tenet's "Slam Dunk". Tenet was Clinton's CIA chief, it was Clinton's intel. If Bush made a mistake, it was believing anything that came from the Clinton team.
jjdewitte 4 years ago 3
That's because no one flew airplanes into the WTC then...oh, wait, someone DID try to blow them up in 1993!
usmc7242 4 years ago
@scj16 That's funny when most of the Democrats voted to go to war with Iraq" if war wasn't necessary Why even give Bush that right if they had no intentions of going to war and to say Al Gore would of never invaded Iraq how can you be sure? We will never know What Al Gore would of would of not done.. I believe he would of went to war Al & Bill bombed Iraq in 1993 and 1998 so he would of went to war that's for sure
bubba007ss 1 year ago
Al Gore is a hypocrytical know nothing ass hole just do a little research I don't need to hear anything else he has to say I got music playing now heard too much of his crap already.
gmpowerjustwheel 4 years ago
Umm, this was 15 years ago! The world changes, data changes, and if your smart like Al Gore, your opinon changes with time & data.
There's a difference between giving a speech and bombing a country that posed no immediate threat at the time.
astronautagogo 4 years ago
Really, all you have to do is listen to what they say themselves. There was no reason for Saddam to have maintained a terror training facility with a 707 mock up if he wasn't allowing it to be used by external terror groups for training. One of the planners of the 1993 WTC attack flew from New York to Baghdad for refuge. Now, today, al-Qaeda says Iraq is their central war against the west. It's really simple. Listen to THEM!
jjdewitte 4 years ago
THAT'S your justification for the worst blunder in US foreign policy history?! Saddam wasn't responsible for 9/11. Why are the Bush's so cozy with the oppressive Saudi elite? All the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia & Bush Inc gave the country a free pass. The fact is, Saddam didn't pose a grave threat to us at all! In fact, while Saddam was committing his greatest atrocities, the US turned a blind eye and considered him an ally.
astronautagogo 4 years ago
Not my justification. Albright, Gore, Clinton, Sandy Berger, Robert Byrd all were proclaiming the threat from Saddam's WMD and terror support as far back as 1998. It was the Clinton administration that defined the U.S. policy toward Iraq as being "Regime change". Bush just believed Clinton (through George Tenet) and carried it out. It was Clinton's CIA chief that said it was a "Slam Dunk".
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Wow, you aren't reading enough. Saddam supported terrorism from day one. We winked at it because he kept Iran in Check. Then, a terrorist with an Iraqi passport tried to blow up the WTC in 1993...get it? SADDAM Sponsored that!! SADDAM DID try to blow up the WTC!!
usmc7242 4 years ago 4
"There's a difference between giving a speech and bombing a country that posed no immediate threat at the time."
Tell Uh...bama that. 'Words, Just Words!...' LOL
TruthFacts 3 years ago
Part #3 Gore is not lying, then or now, but he is of course trying to score points against his political opposition.
Despite everyone here mixing up facts, Bush #1 did do the smart thing by not taking Baghdad. It would have been the same mess then as it is now. Unfortunately his son was not as smart as his father and let the Afghanistan effort falter in order to chase ghosts in Iraq.
jeezidontcare 4 years ago
Part #2 But people here are forgetting the difference that 10 years can make. The sanctions placed on Iraq ruined its WMD program so they were a false reason to invade. And the terrorists of today are Al-Qaeda, which Iraq never supported & were not in Iraq at the time. They were in Afghanistan. You wouldn't confuse the IRA or FARC with each other, why confuse different Muslim terrorist groups?
jeezidontcare 4 years ago
Because the common bond among the groups that threatens American today is Jihadism. Muslim groups by themselves are not threats. It's those who profess Jihadism and it is those groups bin Laden and Zawahiri seek to unite against the U.S. and fight is around the world. Jihadism is the common ideology that must be defeated and proven a failure.
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Jihadism does not necessarily bind them. Just look at all of the various insurgency groups in Iraq right now which spend a great deal of time fighting each other. Al-Qaeda in Iraq vs Sunni insurgency vs Shiite insurgency. They do not share all the same goals nor cooperate with each other. There are differences that you are not recognizing.
jeezidontcare 4 years ago
It's not neccesarily a "bind" as much as it a common view they hold of "crusaders" and "infidels". They- the jihadists- may not necessarily like each other, but they will work together against a perceived "threat to Islam". Then they'll go back to hating each other
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Part #1 The terrorists that Gore is speaking of are a different group. They performed actions supported by Iraq that were directed towards Israel and had nothing to do with Al-Qaeda (which wasn't really on the scene yet). And yes, all of the WMDs that are spoken of were had by Saddam at the time. In fact, many were supplied to him by the United States. The chemicals used to gas the Kurds were created from ingredients supplied by the US.
jeezidontcare 4 years ago
Abu Nidal was killed/died in a town south of Baghdad soon after the war started. He was the one that killed Klinghoffer when he captured the cruise ship Achille Laro. One of the masterminds of the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center fled to Baghdad and was granted asylum by Hussein. Salman Pak was a formal, fully operational terrorist training camp with a mock up 727 used to practice hijackings. Hizbollah, Hamas, and Fatah are not known for hijackings.
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Where are the scientists? WMD programs are not stacks of empty chemical/biological shell casings (found in Iraq), or centrifuges (found in Iraq), or the 1-1/2 tons of enriched uranium (found in Iraq and removed to Nevada), or the 400 tons of yellowcake uranium (found in Iraq and removed to Nevada), it is the scientists.
Where are they?
Syria and Iran.
DANEgerus 4 years ago
I think they got spread even further than that. Saddam had almost a year notice because of the time we wasted sucking up to the U.N.
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Illustrates very well the title of Coulters new book : "If Democrats were smart... They would be Republicans"
dogsbd 4 years ago 4
Makes you think: what will the Gorebot be saying about the global warming "crisis" in 15 years?
arcas2000 4 years ago 5
Isn't political expediency a wonderful thing. :)
arkuis 4 years ago
the democrats are lying today, or are stupid.
trombettas 4 years ago
AlG should do another of these speeches, criticizing GWB for not taking action against Iran. :)
protonsoup 4 years ago
So the Iraq war was ACTUALLY instigated by Al Gore!?
GORE LIED PEOPLE DIED!!1 lol!!!
zo1dberg 4 years ago
I'd call Gore more of an accomplice.....
jjdewitte 4 years ago
Positively surreal! Watching this bloviating buffoon! But this is what happens when a man has no underlying principles and just follows the whims of the times, who cares for nothing but to hear his own boring voice and to picture himself as the leader of the free world as he promotes anything that will ruin it.
drawler 4 years ago
Smart enough to be president in 1992, degenerated since them.
gvanderleun 4 years ago
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What a hypocrite! He ADMITS that Saddam had ties to terrorists 15 years ago! And of course, we all know that things NEVER EVER change, EVER.
boycottsociety 4 years ago 2
You mean Bush wasn't the only one who thought Saddamn Insane had WMD? Who knew? I love the way the Liberal Dhimmicrats point fingers and cut and run when the going gets tough. These guys do a better job of playing the blame game than they do delegating.
"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!" by Alexander Hamilton.
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"Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything." by Alexander Hamilton
KCtheKat 4 years ago 3
Al got it right. Let's see him be a man and admit it now.
mattowan 4 years ago 4
I totally agree with Al Gore. Saddam has no ties to terrorism. I mean, how could he, he's dead! ;)
madhiker70 4 years ago 2
...forgot to mention Haliburton.
kyleb2112 4 years ago 3
Repeating Democrat's own words back to them is a SMEAR campaign. Stop the personal attacks of the right wing blah, blah, blah...
kyleb2112 4 years ago 10
5 stars
Userduder 4 years ago 3
The ability to flip/flop an issue on Gore's part is astounding. What a hypocrite! Worse, this proves he's willing to lie and deny the national interest today- regardless of his past positions- to bash Bush. Hypocrisy rules in the Democrat party!
timkaufman 4 years ago 6