The E1b1b1a3 (V22) Canaanid Hamitid Meditids, were in Coastal Canaan for atleast 10,000yrs before Semitids, the strong evidence is the presence of E1b1b1a2 (V13) Blakanid Hamitid Meditids in Europe, thos crossed the Levant & shared a Hamitid ancestry with E1b1b1a3 (V22)
J1 distribution is mainly downstream & still not very dominant in coastal Canaan despite the 4000 years of occupation
@HistoryCentral so canaanites are originally arabs??what genes are the arabic genes?what the different between j1&j2(i heard that they are the arabic genes).what's the difference between phoenicians and canaanites?and last question what's the difference between the arabs from ISMA'AL and the qah'tani arabs(the other arabs)?and are the AMALEK qahtani arabs???
No I'm in the middle east...but should I be sure of my pure semitic origin just by knowing that I'm a j1e? I mean does that indicate that I'm a semite?
If you are Shammar J1e1-P58 more than likely you are also J1e1c-L147 because the Majority of J1e1-P58 are also J1e1c-L147, the few J1e1 (P58+) & (L147-) are isolated groups found between Anatolia & Yemen, those expanded out of Central Arabia in the Neolithic but had less success than the later J1e1c-L147 Semitid group. J1e1c-L147 is the successful J1e1-P58 cluster that settlede South Arabia & became the nucleus of the Semitid subgroup
You should start with a Y-Str test, that will help you predict what genetic race you fall into, from there you can pick out SNPs to test or simply find what already SNPed cluster you fall under, since Jews have well defined clusters you will know if you are Semitid or Another race, Levites have a high % of R1a1a (M17) Aryanid Eurasids
I recommend Family Builder Y-DNA test they have the best price $59 for 17 markers & its good enough to put you in one of the already defined jewish clusters
R1a1a is Aryanid Eurasid, its origin somewhere in Eurasia. Its really hard to pinpoint where exactly India is a possible Place of origin, but its definitely not associated with the original Semites
Then a 2nd theory of the origin of Greeks, Romans, Albanians & southern Slavs of the Balkans was a group of Egyptians or Pelasgians from Asia minor not far from Syria, Palestine or Cyprus arrived in the Greek peninsula. They spoke either an Indo-European tongue, or are of West Semitic origins if you consider how much the Semites lived in western Arabia to the tip of Asia minor, & the "Sardonic" type in ethnography named for Sardinians off the Italic peninsula is thought to be Amorite or Roman.+
@devulboy1 the people of SE Europe had multi-origins but not Semitic, the E1b1b1a2-V13 people that are still big % in Alabnai & Greece spoke a language similar to modern Somali or Berber more than Semitic.
The J2a people spoke a language similar to Sumerian, J2b people played an important role in spreading Indo-European
Semitic speakers markers are J1e-P58 wherever you see J1e-P58 those are usually related to Semites.
lol wat do you know about my Somalian/ancient egyptian language klid.. the Af-Soomaali language is my native eastern-cush'itic language that can be found all the way from soputhern egypt/Kemet and sudan all the way to Somalia and all of the horn of Africa including Kenya.... and Somalia = where humanity originaly came from.. so if anything albanians and slavs are my Offspring
Ashkenazim do have Semitic looking faces. the only thing is their coloring is off sometimes. like they have the long Semitic face and nose but they are pale and blue eyed., i guess that what happen when you are isolated in Europe for close to 1500 yrs.
Phenotypes dont represent races, the Askhenazis mixied amongst themselves (Semitids & Non-Semitid Converts both Near Eastern & others) creating their own genepool, this will change as phenotypic mixing picks up pace as it already does in Israel-NYC
I am not sure who did "they look" since looks can be altered fast and don't define race, African Americans themselves have varied looks. Cushites DNA is very clear E1b1b1a1-V12 thats almost absent in North Africa & is mainly concentrated in East Africa namely Greater Somalia, Darfur, Oromo landsup north to the Beja homeland. Coastal North Africa is where Canaanid V22, V65 dominate in the NE & M81 in the Barbary coasts...these lineages are much older than existance of Cushites
Israeli360 it doesn't matter how you look like. DNA shows that many Northern looking Ashkenazis have Semitid lineages while some Arab looking jews have East European DNA. You can easily change phenotype when you choose the mother of your child who will carry your Y-DNA anyways.
Genetics are no longer based on guessing its direct accurate numbers thats show your father lineage, 20% of teh Jews have Semitid lineages
25% have Nahrainid lineages, 25% have Meditid lineages the rest are a mix
The Assyrians look like the Kurdish Jews(kurdified Jews) these Kurdish Jews are 100% as the majority of Assyrians. They look the same. These Kurdish Jews where not Kurds but came to Kurdistan as slaves by the Assyrians. and they were Real Semites they never got mixed with Khazars/Ashakanazis.
Those most ultra-mixed Kurds can be found in Iraqi Kurdistan. Regions of Erbil and West of Erbil where majority of Hurrians+Assyrians used to live and also Karkuk regions and Southern Parts of Iraqi Kurdistan too. There you can find allll kindes of Kurds, even Kurds with very very dark and black skinn and white tooth. But they are a minority again. These North Semite Women have very Wide Faces, I swear i have seen so many I can find them within 80 Kurds.They are so Wide and many are so short.
I had 3 Friends 2 sisters and 1 cousin. They looked so Asian even people called them Chinese at our Street. About J2 Yes not only Hurrians but many arameans and Assyrians became Totaly Kurds. I know a Kurdish woman here her name is Bahra She looks So Different from us and my mother. She is Short and She looks just like the Assyrians here, I know Assyrian blood and faces verywell. Assyrian women are Short and they have Wide Faces. And also we know many Assyrianized Europian Caucasian people too.
I know I have Relatives and Friends in Kurdistan These DNA Tests are 100% right beleive me. We have Even Asian Kurds. My Mother's Cousin is called Bahar She is white but Fat, Her Eyes= are just like Mongolid Eyes and she has breed Nose just like asians. Her Daughtter is as her too while his son looks very Kurdish. And Also my Father's Cousin's Daughter her name is Lane She looks 90% Asian just like Turkmen and Asian Turks.
J2 within Kurds is only 28% it is a minority, the Hurrians had it. So most of Kurds are not Hurrians. I have to say an other thing. Look Azeris who were Caucasians Manneans(a hurrian people) Got the Turkisj language but they kept their Caucasian Clothes and traditions. Kurds dont have any Caucasian Tradition or costumes Kurdish Custumes are alike with Greek,Serbian,Mazandarani,Albanian etc..
Yes its a minority, but those J2 are not just Hurrians. From a genetic prespective they are Nahrainid Arabid natives, long before there was Hurrians.
That means those J2 Kurds are very close in blood to other J2 in the region & closer to other J-M304 Arabids than to other R1-Eurasids. This means its impossible for Kurds to be racist against Arabids otherwise they will have to fight 40% of their own people (J1-J2)
This diversity is the reason Kurds were unable to form their own nation
The strongest tribal element within the Kurdish society are the R1a-Aryanid Eurasids, those are the elite minority that imposed their identity & Iranian language on the rest of the population. To the south J1e-P58 played the same dominant role Semitizing mixed population. In Anatolia Turks were able to impose their culture because Anatolia was a very weak racially mixed region & the Turks although mixed were Nomads and easily subdued the diverse agriculutral Anatolians.
What does it matter where you derive from with DNA, unless you have a DNA related illness and such a DNA test will give more specific details than just the information which was put on wikipedia and is used nowadays in youtube videos.
DNA is very important, each specie on earth split on its own. The split is defined by clear genetic mutations. What that means is that Humans will eventually split like all species did before.
You decide where to draw the line?
Y Haplogroups < Humans < Primates < Mammals < Animals
J1 & J2 are both J, its still not very clear where J came from but at this point I think its more than likely a Northern Origin due to to maternal DNA evidence -gap between R* (30,000 years ago) & L3 (missing N lineages) that should be found, instead are found in anatolia-Eastern Europe
So to sum it up its very likely that the primitive origins of the Proto Arabid race are truly in Anatolia-Europe, the progressive Arabid subraces (J1-Semitids & J2-Nahrainids) evolved in the Arabian Plate.
DNA testing of the coastal population in the Levant & its relation to Egypt, corrleates positively with E1b1b1a3-V22 distribution...vs the J1e-P58 distribution
Also you mentioned Hebrews are HABIRU, from my understanding, the Canaanites weren't completely wiped out. Is it possible the remaining Canaanites converted to the Israelite religion or intermarried?
Lebanese have J2 also around 28% Syrians & Sepharadi jews also near 25%
Jews don't have a DNA just like muslims don't have a DNA its just religion, any guy who marries a Jewess can make a Jew. Ashkenazi, Georgian & Yemenite Jews have higher J1 less J2, WHile Iraqi, Sepharadi jews have more J2 less J1
J2 is a Nahrainid "Mesopotamian" marker , while J1 is a Semitid Marker , both markers peak in Arabian plate in % higher than 55% thus J-M304 is considered an Arabid marker
I have J1-CMH and a Kohen. From what my family told me, I am tied to tribe of Levi and people of that region via DNA as well as my last name? Why does Kohen have it's own DNA signature?
Kohen are a priestly class that had to have certain traits to qualify, most these traits were passed down in an Priestly class who became favored genetically because of inheriting these traits from their fathers, with the Jewish dispersions, the Cohen jews remained genetically closer to each other Cohen Jews than to Jews from their own sect (locality)
Can you elaborate on the The peoples recorded in Genesis 14. The records:
5 In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings that were with him came and attacked the Rephaim in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh Kiriathaim, 6 and the Horites in their mountain of Seir, as far as El Paran, which is by the wilderness.
who where these Giant people namely raphiam,zuzimz, emims ????? and also sons of Anak????
The Old Babylonians were named Eastern Canaanites by some historians
They were all Amorite Western Semitic speaking people that came From Wetsern Arabia. Canaan is just a region at that period the Amorite Semites settled that region.
Geographically Anatolians, but the population changed overtime. So a moderate % of modern Turks & Armenians are atleast partially descendants of the Hittites.
Kurds are Iranic. We came to the middle-east with the rest of them. We are a mix of Hurrians and Medes. We settled in the Zagros mountains. But Kurds and Turks are nothing alike.
The R1a Kurds are the original Iranid Eurasids that settled Zagros those are the "Aryan" elite class that imposed their language & culture upon the J2 Nahrainid farmer population that feel under their control.
The same farmer population was also Turkified by the mixed race Cultural Turks who were already mixed coming from Central Asia. The common element between the Kurds & Turks is the native majority element, especially the farmer class J2 Y-DNA those are about 25% in both Kurds & Turks
Add teh common 25% J2, another 50% of J1, G, R1b & E1b1b representing the previous groups that settled the region prior to the Kurdification & Turkification all these haplogroupos are found in both Kurds & Turks
Now finally add that some Turks are really Turkified Kurds & some Kurds are also Kurdified Turks & you will get very close DNA & the main difference is the culture imposed by the Kurdish & Turkish minority elites, which is the case in many regions with conflicts
There are many Greeks and Armenians living in Anatolia that are also Turkified. The Turkish government actually did this on purpose. They also attempted to Turkify the entire Kurdish population in Turkey by not allowing us to speak our language, making it illegal to celebrate our holidays, wear our traditional clothes and even have Kurdish names. At one point they actually destroyed 4,000+ Kurdish villages. But of course these laws have slowly been taken away, but the government is still bad.
The Turks worked of Islam to impose their culture & unify the muslims in one group vs the Greeks-Armenians, the Kurds were diff because they were more isolated in teh mountains and had a stronger indoEuropean element than the mixed ANatolian mosiac that preferred Turkism & eventually became the modern Turks identifying with the Ottomans & the masculine secular Turkic military regime that unified them against what they felt was a Greco-Armenian threat attacking Armenians & the Assyrians later
The people that imposed their language and culture upon the J2 Nahrainid farmer population weren't Kurds. They were ancestors of Kurds (probably the Medes). A Kurd must of been formed after the imposing of our ancestors language and culture. Thanks for the information. :)
Will great to see a Kurd identifying with the non-Aryan original population, but most most Kurds seem to identify with masculine past, the victors (Medes), in the DNA age its very interesting though to see how people who thought they were Medes are identifying with their genetic ancestors.
Anyways you are whatever your Y-DNA is, Kurds & Turks don't have a haplogroup they are various people, the sad part is that the natives who are the majority in both cultures are pitted against each other
Ye, the reason some Kurds always mention the fact that they are not pure Mede but a mix of Medes and Hurrians is because of political reasons. But this i wont explain (will take too long).
The Azeris and Lors also consider themselves as descendants of the Medes. But no one is a pure descendant.
You can do a Y-DNA test if your lineage is R1a more than likely you descend from a Medes male lineage or other similar Iranian types. Y-DNA lineages doesn't mix its your heritage passed to you father to son. Thats all that matter in masculine cultures
Man your the best, I came here to watch a video and you give me all this great information about my culture as well. I will for sure do a Y-DNA test in the near future. Thanks a lot man! If you have more information and time, feel free to share. :D
there were no black cannanites, lol the black people you see in Palestine are there mainly because of Unfortunetely because of the British colonialism, when african countries were occupied by britian and then they made people move to other british held lands like Palestine to work. and when the british empire fell those same black people stayed there,
ARE you truely a christian?The cannanites were of ham in the Torah.If you don't believe in the Bible...be honest with yourself ,and don't call yourself christian.
There was nothing such as Black, some Canaanites were Meditid, those living by the coasts they had the same DNA as Somali people. They were Semitized & about 25% of Israelis, Lebanese, Palestinians share E1b1b (Either M78 or M35). However, the primary gene in Canaan is J (Either M267 or M172)
thanks for posting all of them im just done 20 ish years research on alot of this and im in the middle of learning alot ..ive learnt Arabic-France ect and now im on Aramic,Phoenician language this helps thanks..
Hi Winacer always welcome, if you perfect Arabic, every Semitic word has a verbal root Phoenician & Aramiac will be much easier to learn, especially if you start with Hebrew.
Its a political myth, because in the whole Israel-Palestine DNA studies there is no linguistic or genetic traces other than the average minor influence thats shared by all Levantines from the Hellenic-Byzantine 1000 years of occupation of the Levant
This video is worth gold!!. Very impressive work.
People tend to claim Hebrews, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Syriacs (Assyrian, Syrian) and Arabs are separate 'race', which is historically inaccurate, and also the claim that Ismail (a.s) is the father of Arabs, is inaccurate.
The reality is all those people's ancestor came from the Arabian Plate. Arabs are an ancient people and predates all Abrahamic faith (at least its official start date) by many many years.
So are you saying that the Hebrews, are the HIbiru, who were the East Canaanites who were the west Arabian Amorites. If this is teh case then why does the Torah say that the Hebrews were a subclass in Egypt, and not a overthrown ruling class that returned to their prior lands?
BTW- The number of names make following this story tricky. LOL
How are the Amorite population movements and the dates of these movements known? And the Torah was written 1000 years after what, the population movements or the supposed Exodus date?
The dates are recorded history we can verify. However, it remains a theory we can't prove these people were precisely the people who became the Hebrews.
Religious texts give a general idea, it was much harder for the scripts to keep accurate dates, so the dates don't make sense when compared to recorded history.
Caucasian is not a scientific term its mainly based on speculation and 20th century theories, today we have DNA and we know that they carried J1, J2, E1b1b & T (Y-DNA)
The true Caucasians are the Caucas people they are not related to anybody, but this is youtube you can't take everybody seriously some African Americans think they are the Phoenicians some Europeans think they are the Phoenicians although the Phoenicians spoke a Semitic language, had Semitic names lived around Semites!
I agree that historically Phoenicians cannot possibly be European. It is careless how some historians dismiss them as 'European seafarers' who reached the historical landscapes of Lebanon/Philistia. What is historically accurate and plausable is that they were Semitic. The true Caucasians are the Caucus people, just as the purest Semites are the Bedouin who have continued to roam the Arabian peninsula since the beginning of time - untouched and unscathed by the passages of history.
That source is bull done by propagandists, Greeks dont have African DNA, it has been proven by studies Greeks have one of the lowest African admixture in Europe. Check Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, Carleton S. Coon, Lawrence C. Angel and Dr Tocaver, they all support this.
Screw Macedonians I am talking about genes! E Y-DNA came from Africa, E1b1 came from Ethiopia E1b1b came from North Africa. 25+ Greeks have this gene it doesn't mean they look Black! 30% of the Jews and Ishmaelite Arabs also have that DNA most of them look lighter skinned than the J1 & J2 genetic Arabids!
Skin color and facial features in modern times changed, we can only trace certain facial features as the Greek nose or stright hair in Europe vs Curly/Wavy hair.
lol yes everyone came from Africa, dating back from long long time ago. I am talking about Modern Greeks, in historical terms, Greeks havent intermingled with Africans.
In recent history 800 BC and after if there was any mixing with Africans it must have been rare. Greeks share the same Phenotype (med Climate) today although they have a diverse Genotype
Greece had various DNA which makes hard to trace. It depends what period?
Today Greece has about 25+% E1b1b Y-DNA its related to Negroids, 25% Arabid J(y-DNA)mostly Syrid about 20% I Y-DNA (native European DNA later moved to Sacdnavia and became somewjhat of a Nordid marker (I1 Y-DNA).
I Y-DNA enetered Europe from whats today (north Greece), I Y-DNA ancestor evolved in the Ethiopian-Yemenite highlands as the progenitor of the (Greek Nose/wavy hair) in Europe. So the European Greek Y-DNA is I
I Y-DNA is about 18% of Europe population today, the majority of Europe is R1 Y-DNA (R1b & R1A) they are distinguished by a two phase evolution outside Europe, they exited Africa from Egypt rather than Ethiopia so they had smaller noses (low bridge ala Bushmen/Asians) they evolved in Asia so they have striaghter hair than I Y-DNA (never saw the Far East). They returned West and evolved their Nasal bridges in the caspian region (Russia-Northern Iran) and entered Europe from whats Today Ukraine
These stats are good, but still you have to tell people that this was done by selecting handpicked people.
I will not take DNA stats seriously till they are applied on the whole nations population...That said J2 has nothing to do with Africans! J1 & J2 are only present in North Africa (Phoenicians & later Muslims) & in Ethiopia (Sabaeans & later Himyarite Jewish slaves)
E3 DNA has a minor presence in modern Jewish & Muslim semites for two diff reasons (so it doesn't confused with the original J1 & J2 Arabid DNA)
Jewish Semitic E3 = Slavery in Egypt (self explainatory)
Muslim Semitic E3 = Came from the Himyarites who fell under the Asksumite occupation 545 AD, the Aksumites ruling elite were the descendants of Sabaean Semites but they had African E3 soldiers.
The Muslim Himyarites carried 4%-6% of Y-E3 that they spread with Islam as far as France & China.
I don't take the dna thing too serious. Cuz most of it is done by people who have colonized the world. I would say most of the modern arabs come from caucacus mountain. I don't understand why they are so white skin or high red. It's funny. But according to herodotus and tacitus the middle east was black people. Or they would call them kushites or ethiopians. It was the kushites who build the babylonian empire and nimrod was a kushite. Anyway history is all made up!
The DNA is solid evidence! You can do it on your own, Its easy.
Carrying Arabid J (Y-DNA) markers doesn't mean you will be dark or Pale! you can be an Arabid blonde J1 or belong to the Arabid minority in (Sabaean J1 subclade that came from ancient Yemen)
Change in skin and eye color can be accelerated by aquiring local MTDNA (mothers bloodline) within a few decades of assimilation or by natural genetic mutation in a few centuries.
Carrying Arabid J (Y-DNA) markers doesn't mean you will be dark or Pale! you can be an Arabid blonde J1 with a maternal white slave MTDNA or belong to the dark skinned Ethiopian Arabid minority in (Sabaean J1 subclade that came from ancient Yemen)
Change in skin and eye color can be accelerated by aquiring local MTDNA (mothers bloodline) within a few decades of assimilation or by natural genetic mutation in a few centuries.
Thats what is though! Just like the Hellenic Iliada its something that became part of the Judean Folkore, before it became a religion via Judaism, Christianity and Islam. If you take religion out of it its folkore.
Ok if you want to claim the Canaanites as Amorites thats fine, but you have to recognize that Canaan was a Black nation that opposed the Amorite Arabs of Aram and the Hebrews who were the enslaved Arabs in Egypt
There is nothing such as Semite thats a White mans effort to claim that Jesus and his people were Arabs not Black
Canaan is the lowlands the Amorites settled, it means the lowland-havens, they spoke a pure form of Arabian. They never referred to them self as Africans or such...
Semitic is an Arabian term, I recommend that you learn the Arabian languages before you start making such claims as "the white man" invented the term semite!
"young Israeli & Palestinian children should be raised to hate the Anglo-Saxon Brits".
WoW That Is a wonderful banner for guys like
brother Abu-mazen and brother Olmert,to hang above their kitchen tables,when they dine together.What do you think!.
Antianglosaxonism ehhh long name...May I add Celtic Brits are good people, only the Anglo Saxons they seem to have Antisemitism deeply engraved in their genes ;(
agreed. I'm of celt decent. I would assume the xenophobia comes from peoples who lived in the low land pockets, who were isolated from the easy trade of seafaring coastal peoples, that would expose these traders to different cultures and races. And of course the effects of persecuted cultures- which is what we see most today.
Question:based on your deep knowledge in ancient History of the middle east,can you give me a blunt answer about who has more ownership rights,or claimes over this real estate of the holy land,palestinians or Jews?. PERCENTAGE WISE IF YOU COULD!.Please based on ancient history and not modern history,if you can!Thanks.
P.S: using soundtracks of i.e classical music would be more effective,my opinion!.
Classical music is very sedentary though...I favor a nomadic/wandering theme.
Many Palstinians are Jewish. Judiasim became a religion 2000years after the Amorite Semites settled Canaan. If you mean the Israelis or Palestinians then the answer is both, because both are Amorite Semites.
As of which Semites will be there in 200years I am not sure, but we know from the history of the near east that lands often change hands amongst the Semitic various groups.
well,maybe you've produced a historical tie about the disputed real estate.You've stated" many Palestinians are Jewish"!!please break it down for me: which palestinians of our current days are Jewish,and Who are the reminder,none-jewish palestinians and where are they?..The palestinians I know [meaning: today's palestinians], are either muslims or christians],I've not met a jewish claiming to be of palestinian Heritage either!. please explaine.many thanks!.IS Jewish=Judiasm=hebrew
"Jewish = Judiasim = Hebrew" >>> Is a Wrong equation
Many of the ancient Hebrews (Ancient Israelites) are today modern Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Kurds, Iranians...etc. So there goes the first part of your Equation!
Judiasim is a religion not a race, a big portion of the ancient Palestinians (& non hebrew Amorites), eventually assimilated into the Judean culture either in the early phases or during the Assyrian campaigns that forced many non Judeans to escape into Judea
ie. in Lebanon the whole population share a common origin either via nativity (Northern Canaanite Semites) or common migrations (Southern Qahtani Semites), but they are all divided & accuse each other of being Mongols, French or whatever the politcial necessity requires!
Another example is Temani jews who are known as 99% Himyarite converts. Today claim a diff identity than what they claimed in 1947.
What I am trying to say is that politics are short term lies.
Thanks for giving some time for my questions.I'm just trying to understand the historical backgrounds of the conflict in the holy land..you were somehow a help.Thanks again!
If you are referring to the current conflict, the best way is to lay all the blame on the evil Anglo Saxon Brits. Including the Zionists Brits who should not be considered Israelis.
Young Israeli & Palestinian children should be raised to hate the Anglo-Saxon Brits
(The Semitic Racial Enemy) Anyways very soon the Celts & Indics will thumb out the Anglo Saxons out of LONDON
Everybody will pay sooner or later no FREE RIDES its the rules of the master manipulator of this Universe!
but sir the askinazim jews cant be ascribed to the smeitic hebrews.its azionist propaganda.the askinazim jews consider as the descendants of the khazaria inhabitants.khazars were aturkic tribes converted to judaism and established empire near caspian sea and this empire falldown due to the rus attacks.so the khazars jews migrated to russia and east europe these jews who we called them askinazim
The Ashkenazis regardless of genetics, speak an Arabian language and associate themsleves with the Hebrews. Therefore, we have to consider them Semites.
Genetic affiliation is invalid in the near East, as you know most of us are Semitized populations that might share the Paternal Bedouin DNA, but we have various MTDNA stretching from the Nordic circle to the equatorial Jungle.
Zionists are Antisemites, just like many Religiopolitical Antisemitic groups all over the near east !والله أعلم
The Judeans themselves are an Amorite admixture that included Non Hebrews. The Ashkenazis and many Sepharadi Jews mixed with the locals Ofcourse this is less apparent amongst the Mizrahis because of their host nations genetic/cultural proximity to the original Hebrews.
I am not a practicing Jew nor do I take the books literally, so in my practical definition a Semite is whoever:
The only "somewhat" ancient is Manetho accounting the Israelites of Canaan as a tribe of the Hyksos tribes that were expelled from the Delta.
Very vague, we have to assume that some of teh Hyksos actually moved to Phillistia-Edumia or further north immediately after the Exodus and the Habirus are a new formed federation between Sinai and East of the Jordan river. The 300years gap is what really seperated them from the Egyptian ruled Semites in Canaan & made them consider Canaanites Hamitic
these are all yemeni tribes i dont know why u always ignore the Term Yemen in ur vedios i dont know if u have something agains yemen or u just dont have an accurate sorces
Yemen is the origin of all the Qahtani tribes, that came 2000 years after the initial Arabian migrations out of the Desert region between the Empty Quarter and Syrian Desert.
Qahtan itself is a massive tribal federation that moved North to South...East to West from The Desert of Syahad wil'Ramla to the mountains reaching the Yemeni mountains around 1200BC-900BC. The Sabaean campaigns mentioned Yement (south) that tells you what Yemen was to them...The South!
#1 Yemen means south (so we know the original Arabian came from the desert regions)
#2 Ma'rib means (west) and Ma'rib is the first Bastion of the Sabaeans built around 8th century BC, so that tells you the Qahtanis came from the East desert region, Ma'rib is were the mountains start rising reaching its hieght in 100Miles to the west, those regions (Raiam Saba'a)were settled even later around 7th century BC. They kept heading West reaching Ma'afir end of 7th and Africa in the 6thcentury BC
The Word Amorite itself simply means the Westerners.
A'Maarr = Al'Maghreb = Ha'Maarev
Maar = Maghreb = Maarev (Martu/Murru in ancient Mesopotamian dialects)
In Old Arabian Ghayn used to be R only...In classical Arabic both R and GHayn were adapted, in Hebrew R is stil Ghayn only.
The biblical giants were the Amalik who were an off shot of the Amorites, just like the rest of there neighbors who were all originally Amorites (in Mesopotamian eyes).
To understand why the Amorites of Babylon (East Canaanites, later Hysksos) will call the Canaanites Amorites you can find an example.
Today Mashriqis consider all nations west of Libya diwal Al-Maghrib, but in the same time Algerians will restrict the term to the Morrocans because they are the core of the Maghrib.
The Amorites of Babylon were considered westerners (Amorites) to the Mesopotamians, but Canaan was also considered western (Amorite) to the Babylonian Amorites.
this is a great and useful videos you are putting on youtube, but I am sure that there was no evidence that could link the Hyksos to the semitic amorites! can you please give a refrence to these facts? Thanks in advance
#3 The Amorites of Babylon were invaded by Chariot riding Hittites 11years before the Hyksos appear in Egypt introducing the Chariot to the Amorites. The Amorite Hyksos were the first to bring the Chariot to Egypt.
#4 The Amorite religion of Babylon is the roots of the Hebrew pre exile-Proto-Judiasm that came out of Egypt. The Hebrews were always aware of a Mesopotamian past thats why the bibilcal father in the Hebrew religion is Abraham who was a Mesopotamian
its entertaining to see how someone is trying to glroify arabs haha arab garab who are known to be worthless and sutpid . u guys are lizzard eaters who have no pride in civilizations what so ever. All those ppl mentioned in this propaganda video made by this christian zionist were all just simple semetic tribes
lot of thanks for this amazing Vid!!
were is part 2???
palestine4eever 1 year ago
long live semitics arabs
LBN1984 1 year ago 10
Were the Kenites native to the land?
PILMAN 1 year ago
The E1b1b1a3 (V22) Canaanid Hamitid Meditids, were in Coastal Canaan for atleast 10,000yrs before Semitids, the strong evidence is the presence of E1b1b1a2 (V13) Blakanid Hamitid Meditids in Europe, thos crossed the Levant & shared a Hamitid ancestry with E1b1b1a3 (V22)
J1 distribution is mainly downstream & still not very dominant in coastal Canaan despite the 4000 years of occupation
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
@HistoryCentral so canaanites are originally arabs??what genes are the arabic genes?what the different between j1&j2(i heard that they are the arabic genes).what's the difference between phoenicians and canaanites?and last question what's the difference between the arabs from ISMA'AL and the qah'tani arabs(the other arabs)?and are the AMALEK qahtani arabs???
roosoo2 1 year ago 3
Gentically pre-Semitic Canaanites were E1b1b1a-M78 Hamitids related to East Africa, today E1b1b1a3-V22 Canaanid Hamitid Meditids
*People who claim an Adnani lineage are usually J1e1c (L147+), J1e1c1 (Z19 +), J1e1c1a (Z31+), J1e1c1a1 (L222.2+)
*Kahlani Qahtanis are mostly J1e1c (L147+), J1e1c1 (Z19 +), J1e1c1a (Z31-), J1e1c1a1 (L222.2-)
*Majority of Non-Kahlani Qahtanis are J1e1c (L147+), J1e1c1 (Z19 -), J1e1c1a (Z31-), J1e1c1a1 (L222.2-)
Amalek were more than likely legendary
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
Hi....excuse me I did the test and I was j1e....can u know from my result to wich one of the three parts u mentioned in ur comment do I belong to??
ShammarKSA 1 year ago
By the end of this year these SNP tests should be offered commercially.
If you are in the USA I can help you get a free SNP test
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
No I'm in the middle east...but should I be sure of my pure semitic origin just by knowing that I'm a j1e? I mean does that indicate that I'm a semite?
ShammarKSA 1 year ago
If you are Shammar J1e1-P58 more than likely you are also J1e1c-L147 because the Majority of J1e1-P58 are also J1e1c-L147, the few J1e1 (P58+) & (L147-) are isolated groups found between Anatolia & Yemen, those expanded out of Central Arabia in the Neolithic but had less success than the later J1e1c-L147 Semitid group. J1e1c-L147 is the successful J1e1-P58 cluster that settlede South Arabia & became the nucleus of the Semitid subgroup
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
What is SNP test and how would I get one? I am in US.
PILMAN 1 year ago
You should start with a Y-Str test, that will help you predict what genetic race you fall into, from there you can pick out SNPs to test or simply find what already SNPed cluster you fall under, since Jews have well defined clusters you will know if you are Semitid or Another race, Levites have a high % of R1a1a (M17) Aryanid Eurasids
I recommend Family Builder Y-DNA test they have the best price $59 for 17 markers & its good enough to put you in one of the already defined jewish clusters
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
@HistoryCentral you have some interesting staff but anyway what is your marker y dna
101nanotechnology 1 year ago
@HistoryCentral Isn't R1a1a originally from India?
PILMAN 1 year ago
@PILMAN
R1a1a is Aryanid Eurasid, its origin somewhere in Eurasia. Its really hard to pinpoint where exactly India is a possible Place of origin, but its definitely not associated with the original Semites
HistoryCentral 1 year ago
@HistoryCentral I finally did a DNA test, 23andme says that I am a J1e which according to the DNA sites is "J1C3 (P58)". Is this Semitic?
PILMAN 9 months ago
@PILMAN
J1c3-P58 more than likely J1c3d-L147, means you are a genetic Semitid descendant of the original Semitic speakers
J1c3* itself is rare less than 1% those are proto-semitic speakers who didn't belong to the J1c3d-L147 clade that later spread the Semitic languages
HistoryCentral 9 months ago
Then a 2nd theory of the origin of Greeks, Romans, Albanians & southern Slavs of the Balkans was a group of Egyptians or Pelasgians from Asia minor not far from Syria, Palestine or Cyprus arrived in the Greek peninsula. They spoke either an Indo-European tongue, or are of West Semitic origins if you consider how much the Semites lived in western Arabia to the tip of Asia minor, & the "Sardonic" type in ethnography named for Sardinians off the Italic peninsula is thought to be Amorite or Roman.+
devulboy1 2 years ago
@devulboy1 the people of SE Europe had multi-origins but not Semitic, the E1b1b1a2-V13 people that are still big % in Alabnai & Greece spoke a language similar to modern Somali or Berber more than Semitic.
The J2a people spoke a language similar to Sumerian, J2b people played an important role in spreading Indo-European
Semitic speakers markers are J1e-P58 wherever you see J1e-P58 those are usually related to Semites.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
lol wat do you know about my Somalian/ancient egyptian language klid.. the Af-Soomaali language is my native eastern-cush'itic language that can be found all the way from soputhern egypt/Kemet and sudan all the way to Somalia and all of the horn of Africa including Kenya.... and Somalia = where humanity originaly came from.. so if anything albanians and slavs are my Offspring
CushiticSomalianMale 2 years ago
Yes but only the E1b1b1a2-V13 Balkanids share a close common ancestor with the majority of modern Somalis today & Cushites in general
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Ashkenazim do have Semitic looking faces. the only thing is their coloring is off sometimes. like they have the long Semitic face and nose but they are pale and blue eyed., i guess that what happen when you are isolated in Europe for close to 1500 yrs.
Mizrachi8 2 years ago
Phenotypes dont represent races, the Askhenazis mixied amongst themselves (Semitids & Non-Semitid Converts both Near Eastern & others) creating their own genepool, this will change as phenotypic mixing picks up pace as it already does in Israel-NYC
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
i know that
Mizrachi8 2 years ago
So Habiru are the Hebrews?
mikeblaze2e 2 years ago 2
Very good candidate, but nothing is 100%
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
I am not sure who did "they look" since looks can be altered fast and don't define race, African Americans themselves have varied looks. Cushites DNA is very clear E1b1b1a1-V12 thats almost absent in North Africa & is mainly concentrated in East Africa namely Greater Somalia, Darfur, Oromo landsup north to the Beja homeland. Coastal North Africa is where Canaanid V22, V65 dominate in the NE & M81 in the Barbary coasts...these lineages are much older than existance of Cushites
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Keep going History channel!
amrjosef 2 years ago
Israeli360 it doesn't matter how you look like. DNA shows that many Northern looking Ashkenazis have Semitid lineages while some Arab looking jews have East European DNA. You can easily change phenotype when you choose the mother of your child who will carry your Y-DNA anyways.
Genetics are no longer based on guessing its direct accurate numbers thats show your father lineage, 20% of teh Jews have Semitid lineages
25% have Nahrainid lineages, 25% have Meditid lineages the rest are a mix
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
The Assyrians look like the Kurdish Jews(kurdified Jews) these Kurdish Jews are 100% as the majority of Assyrians. They look the same. These Kurdish Jews where not Kurds but came to Kurdistan as slaves by the Assyrians. and they were Real Semites they never got mixed with Khazars/Ashakanazis.
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
khazars was asians, tatars, a arab historian describe most of theam as deep brown as some kind of indians, and few of theam as gingers.
ashkenazi jews have meadle eastern faces.
genetiks showed that ashkenazi jews are levantinis, even with a egyptian geans(e1)
the kurd jews doesn't look at all as the kurd or the assyrians.
israeli360 2 years ago
Those most ultra-mixed Kurds can be found in Iraqi Kurdistan. Regions of Erbil and West of Erbil where majority of Hurrians+Assyrians used to live and also Karkuk regions and Southern Parts of Iraqi Kurdistan too. There you can find allll kindes of Kurds, even Kurds with very very dark and black skinn and white tooth. But they are a minority again. These North Semite Women have very Wide Faces, I swear i have seen so many I can find them within 80 Kurds.They are so Wide and many are so short.
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
I had 3 Friends 2 sisters and 1 cousin. They looked so Asian even people called them Chinese at our Street. About J2 Yes not only Hurrians but many arameans and Assyrians became Totaly Kurds. I know a Kurdish woman here her name is Bahra She looks So Different from us and my mother. She is Short and She looks just like the Assyrians here, I know Assyrian blood and faces verywell. Assyrian women are Short and they have Wide Faces. And also we know many Assyrianized Europian Caucasian people too.
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
The WIde face is a Mesopotamian triat, its misleading because msot Mesopotamians still have bigger % of the native mtDNA
Best way to classify peopel is by Y-DNA, phenotypes are misleading.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
@HistoryCentral exactly
101nanotechnology 1 year ago
I know I have Relatives and Friends in Kurdistan These DNA Tests are 100% right beleive me. We have Even Asian Kurds. My Mother's Cousin is called Bahar She is white but Fat, Her Eyes= are just like Mongolid Eyes and she has breed Nose just like asians. Her Daughtter is as her too while his son looks very Kurdish. And Also my Father's Cousin's Daughter her name is Lane She looks 90% Asian just like Turkmen and Asian Turks.
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
J2 within Kurds is only 28% it is a minority, the Hurrians had it. So most of Kurds are not Hurrians. I have to say an other thing. Look Azeris who were Caucasians Manneans(a hurrian people) Got the Turkisj language but they kept their Caucasian Clothes and traditions. Kurds dont have any Caucasian Tradition or costumes Kurdish Custumes are alike with Greek,Serbian,Mazandarani,Albanian etc..
xOxKurdParstxOx 2 years ago
Yes its a minority, but those J2 are not just Hurrians. From a genetic prespective they are Nahrainid Arabid natives, long before there was Hurrians.
That means those J2 Kurds are very close in blood to other J2 in the region & closer to other J-M304 Arabids than to other R1-Eurasids. This means its impossible for Kurds to be racist against Arabids otherwise they will have to fight 40% of their own people (J1-J2)
This diversity is the reason Kurds were unable to form their own nation
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
The strongest tribal element within the Kurdish society are the R1a-Aryanid Eurasids, those are the elite minority that imposed their identity & Iranian language on the rest of the population. To the south J1e-P58 played the same dominant role Semitizing mixed population. In Anatolia Turks were able to impose their culture because Anatolia was a very weak racially mixed region & the Turks although mixed were Nomads and easily subdued the diverse agriculutral Anatolians.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
What does it matter where you derive from with DNA, unless you have a DNA related illness and such a DNA test will give more specific details than just the information which was put on wikipedia and is used nowadays in youtube videos.
Allyredstar 2 years ago
DNA is very important, each specie on earth split on its own. The split is defined by clear genetic mutations. What that means is that Humans will eventually split like all species did before.
You decide where to draw the line?
Y Haplogroups < Humans < Primates < Mammals < Animals
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
that doesnt make sence how can J1 and
J2 come from different places when both are groups of J? arent theys suppose to arise from the same place?
pedro1sanshezcruz 2 years ago
J1 & J2 are both J, its still not very clear where J came from but at this point I think its more than likely a Northern Origin due to to maternal DNA evidence -gap between R* (30,000 years ago) & L3 (missing N lineages) that should be found, instead are found in anatolia-Eastern Europe
So to sum it up its very likely that the primitive origins of the Proto Arabid race are truly in Anatolia-Europe, the progressive Arabid subraces (J1-Semitids & J2-Nahrainids) evolved in the Arabian Plate.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Where did you find this information that Canaanites were E1B1B1A3-V22 ?
PILMAN 2 years ago
DNA testing of the coastal population in the Levant & its relation to Egypt, corrleates positively with E1b1b1a3-V22 distribution...vs the J1e-P58 distribution
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Also you mentioned Hebrews are HABIRU, from my understanding, the Canaanites weren't completely wiped out. Is it possible the remaining Canaanites converted to the Israelite religion or intermarried?
PILMAN 2 years ago
Yes its possible, Jews today are mixed of many races, just like Muslims & Christians
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
no!! the j2 highest found between lebanes, syrians and jews
israeli360 2 years ago
Lebanese have J2 also around 28% Syrians & Sepharadi jews also near 25%
Jews don't have a DNA just like muslims don't have a DNA its just religion, any guy who marries a Jewess can make a Jew. Ashkenazi, Georgian & Yemenite Jews have higher J1 less J2, WHile Iraqi, Sepharadi jews have more J2 less J1
J2 is a Nahrainid "Mesopotamian" marker , while J1 is a Semitid Marker , both markers peak in Arabian plate in % higher than 55% thus J-M304 is considered an Arabid marker
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
I have J1-CMH and a Kohen. From what my family told me, I am tied to tribe of Levi and people of that region via DNA as well as my last name? Why does Kohen have it's own DNA signature?
PILMAN 2 years ago
Kohen are a priestly class that had to have certain traits to qualify, most these traits were passed down in an Priestly class who became favored genetically because of inheriting these traits from their fathers, with the Jewish dispersions, the Cohen jews remained genetically closer to each other Cohen Jews than to Jews from their own sect (locality)
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
السلام عليكم
انا من العمور وليش كله انجليزي
شي عربي خل نفهمه يا اخوان خخخخخخخ
تحياتي
fhad242 2 years ago 2
Wonderful historical glimpse to Western Arabia.
Many THANKS you for posting this ..
Thanks for Youtube as well.
Firewall2153 2 years ago
Who are the sons of anak and the zuzimms and emimms the occupied canaan ?
avhot 2 years ago
I'm still researching, but your video helped inspire me to look at other things, thanks.
AnaMurida 2 years ago
And would the zuzim in HAM as recorded in Genesis 14 Be reffering to a people of ethiopic decent ? as ham and cush are some how related???
avhot 2 years ago
Can you elaborate on the The peoples recorded in Genesis 14. The records:
5 In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings that were with him came and attacked the Rephaim in Ashteroth Karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh Kiriathaim, 6 and the Horites in their mountain of Seir, as far as El Paran, which is by the wilderness.
who where these Giant people namely raphiam,zuzimz, emims ????? and also sons of Anak????
avhot 2 years ago
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SemiticDiscovery 2 years ago
The Old Babylonians were named Eastern Canaanites by some historians
They were all Amorite Western Semitic speaking people that came From Wetsern Arabia. Canaan is just a region at that period the Amorite Semites settled that region.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Hittite
- I thought they existed in Anatolia
- Any reason of why there name disappeared from history books.
- Would there be any nation today that can be traced back to them. or claim to be there ancestors
salvalcore 2 years ago
Geographically Anatolians, but the population changed overtime. So a moderate % of modern Turks & Armenians are atleast partially descendants of the Hittites.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Turks would not be descendants of the Hitties because the Turks migrated to Anatolia from central-Asia.
Naraku111 2 years ago
Turks and Kurds alike are a mix of an invading minority and a native majority that assimilated
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Kurds are Iranic. We came to the middle-east with the rest of them. We are a mix of Hurrians and Medes. We settled in the Zagros mountains. But Kurds and Turks are nothing alike.
Naraku111 2 years ago
The R1a Kurds are the original Iranid Eurasids that settled Zagros those are the "Aryan" elite class that imposed their language & culture upon the J2 Nahrainid farmer population that feel under their control.
The same farmer population was also Turkified by the mixed race Cultural Turks who were already mixed coming from Central Asia. The common element between the Kurds & Turks is the native majority element, especially the farmer class J2 Y-DNA those are about 25% in both Kurds & Turks
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Add teh common 25% J2, another 50% of J1, G, R1b & E1b1b representing the previous groups that settled the region prior to the Kurdification & Turkification all these haplogroupos are found in both Kurds & Turks
Now finally add that some Turks are really Turkified Kurds & some Kurds are also Kurdified Turks & you will get very close DNA & the main difference is the culture imposed by the Kurdish & Turkish minority elites, which is the case in many regions with conflicts
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
There are many Greeks and Armenians living in Anatolia that are also Turkified. The Turkish government actually did this on purpose. They also attempted to Turkify the entire Kurdish population in Turkey by not allowing us to speak our language, making it illegal to celebrate our holidays, wear our traditional clothes and even have Kurdish names. At one point they actually destroyed 4,000+ Kurdish villages. But of course these laws have slowly been taken away, but the government is still bad.
Naraku111 2 years ago
The Turks worked of Islam to impose their culture & unify the muslims in one group vs the Greeks-Armenians, the Kurds were diff because they were more isolated in teh mountains and had a stronger indoEuropean element than the mixed ANatolian mosiac that preferred Turkism & eventually became the modern Turks identifying with the Ottomans & the masculine secular Turkic military regime that unified them against what they felt was a Greco-Armenian threat attacking Armenians & the Assyrians later
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
The people that imposed their language and culture upon the J2 Nahrainid farmer population weren't Kurds. They were ancestors of Kurds (probably the Medes). A Kurd must of been formed after the imposing of our ancestors language and culture. Thanks for the information. :)
Naraku111 2 years ago
Will great to see a Kurd identifying with the non-Aryan original population, but most most Kurds seem to identify with masculine past, the victors (Medes), in the DNA age its very interesting though to see how people who thought they were Medes are identifying with their genetic ancestors.
Anyways you are whatever your Y-DNA is, Kurds & Turks don't have a haplogroup they are various people, the sad part is that the natives who are the majority in both cultures are pitted against each other
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Ye, the reason some Kurds always mention the fact that they are not pure Mede but a mix of Medes and Hurrians is because of political reasons. But this i wont explain (will take too long).
The Azeris and Lors also consider themselves as descendants of the Medes. But no one is a pure descendant.
Naraku111 2 years ago
You can do a Y-DNA test if your lineage is R1a more than likely you descend from a Medes male lineage or other similar Iranian types. Y-DNA lineages doesn't mix its your heritage passed to you father to son. Thats all that matter in masculine cultures
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Man your the best, I came here to watch a video and you give me all this great information about my culture as well. I will for sure do a Y-DNA test in the near future. Thanks a lot man! If you have more information and time, feel free to share. :D
Naraku111 2 years ago
what is the sound track here
avhot 2 years ago
The Amorites, send me your email I will send it to you.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
you didnt sent it.
avhot 2 years ago
give me an email!?
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
there were no black cannanites, lol the black people you see in Palestine are there mainly because of Unfortunetely because of the British colonialism, when african countries were occupied by britian and then they made people move to other british held lands like Palestine to work. and when the british empire fell those same black people stayed there,
ChristianLove2008 2 years ago
ARE you truely a christian?The cannanites were of ham in the Torah.If you don't believe in the Bible...be honest with yourself ,and don't call yourself christian.
oramikleepunk 2 years ago
The bible is not an Historical set of documents
napagus 2 years ago
Who said all of Ham's descenants are black? skin coloure is gained from the sun level, not by race.
If a black man wil llive in europe 1000 years he will be white.
RIPeach 2 years ago
Your username tells me you're Christian yet you deny your Bible? In the Bible, Moses, Cananiites, and Egyptians are described as "black".
AnaMurida 2 years ago
There was nothing such as Black, some Canaanites were Meditid, those living by the coasts they had the same DNA as Somali people. They were Semitized & about 25% of Israelis, Lebanese, Palestinians share E1b1b (Either M78 or M35). However, the primary gene in Canaan is J (Either M267 or M172)
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
thanks for posting all of them im just done 20 ish years research on alot of this and im in the middle of learning alot ..ive learnt Arabic-France ect and now im on Aramic,Phoenician language this helps thanks..
Winacer50 2 years ago
Hi Winacer always welcome, if you perfect Arabic, every Semitic word has a verbal root Phoenician & Aramiac will be much easier to learn, especially if you start with Hebrew.
Good luck with your research
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Excellent thank you. yes i understand that also. and yes on the hebrew thanks for your help my friend.. ;)
Winacer50 2 years ago
Its a political myth, because in the whole Israel-Palestine DNA studies there is no linguistic or genetic traces other than the average minor influence thats shared by all Levantines from the Hellenic-Byzantine 1000 years of occupation of the Levant
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
This video is worth gold!!. Very impressive work.
People tend to claim Hebrews, Egyptians, Phoenicians, Syriacs (Assyrian, Syrian) and Arabs are separate 'race', which is historically inaccurate, and also the claim that Ismail (a.s) is the father of Arabs, is inaccurate.
The reality is all those people's ancestor came from the Arabian Plate. Arabs are an ancient people and predates all Abrahamic faith (at least its official start date) by many many years.
itsalif 3 years ago 3
Yes but the common origin is genetic Arabid, not the casual Arab term used casually today.
The DNA of Arabids is J (Y-DNA)
J1 ProtoSemitic
J2 Syrids
The Arabid race existed long before the Abrahamic religions, J (Y-DNA) mutation is 30,000years old
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
So are you saying that the Hebrews, are the HIbiru, who were the East Canaanites who were the west Arabian Amorites. If this is teh case then why does the Torah say that the Hebrews were a subclass in Egypt, and not a overthrown ruling class that returned to their prior lands?
BTW- The number of names make following this story tricky. LOL
LBNANY 3 years ago
The Torah was written much later atleast 1000 years later, all these are theories.
I just favor the theory in the video because it matches the time frame of Amorite population movements, but its still a theory
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
How are the Amorite population movements and the dates of these movements known? And the Torah was written 1000 years after what, the population movements or the supposed Exodus date?
LBNANY 3 years ago
The dates are recorded history we can verify. However, it remains a theory we can't prove these people were precisely the people who became the Hebrews.
Religious texts give a general idea, it was much harder for the scripts to keep accurate dates, so the dates don't make sense when compared to recorded history.
HistoryCentral 2 years ago
Love your videos
Wnyjnay 3 years ago 9
Great video. Whats the soundtrack?
rashidcan 3 years ago
The Amorites :)
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
bro u serious..........NICE!!!!!!!!!XD
xHASSUNAx 3 years ago
Caucasian is not a scientific term its mainly based on speculation and 20th century theories, today we have DNA and we know that they carried J1, J2, E1b1b & T (Y-DNA)
The true Caucasians are the Caucas people they are not related to anybody, but this is youtube you can't take everybody seriously some African Americans think they are the Phoenicians some Europeans think they are the Phoenicians although the Phoenicians spoke a Semitic language, had Semitic names lived around Semites!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
I agree that historically Phoenicians cannot possibly be European. It is careless how some historians dismiss them as 'European seafarers' who reached the historical landscapes of Lebanon/Philistia. What is historically accurate and plausable is that they were Semitic. The true Caucasians are the Caucus people, just as the purest Semites are the Bedouin who have continued to roam the Arabian peninsula since the beginning of time - untouched and unscathed by the passages of history.
BenNunStudios 3 years ago
HistoryCentral,thank you for your wonderful
history teaching.I enjoy every single topic,I am curious,do you have any comment about Zekaria Sitchin?I will be waiting for your comment.
mrclick0024 3 years ago
I just googled it, as of now I have no comment :(
I will try to get his book!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
The Greeks look dark because of their Geographic location not their E1b1b African genes!
All coastal Greeks with deep roots share the same skin tone, typical to the Med Sea.
Greeks, Albanians, Lebanese all share a similar 25% of East Africa DNA E1b1b.
E1b1b increases into Africa 30% in Israel & Palestinians. 35% in Egypt...then it reaches it peak in Morrocco, Ethiopia and Somalia all over 50% E1b1b
Morroccons, Somalians, Ethiopians & Berbers are the E1b1b majority people
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
That source is bull done by propagandists, Greeks dont have African DNA, it has been proven by studies Greeks have one of the lowest African admixture in Europe. Check Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, Alberto Piazza, Carleton S. Coon, Lawrence C. Angel and Dr Tocaver, they all support this.
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
Oxi kaukla kala...
Screw Macedonians I am talking about genes! E Y-DNA came from Africa, E1b1 came from Ethiopia E1b1b came from North Africa. 25+ Greeks have this gene it doesn't mean they look Black! 30% of the Jews and Ishmaelite Arabs also have that DNA most of them look lighter skinned than the J1 & J2 genetic Arabids!
Skin color and facial features in modern times changed, we can only trace certain facial features as the Greek nose or stright hair in Europe vs Curly/Wavy hair.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
lol yes everyone came from Africa, dating back from long long time ago. I am talking about Modern Greeks, in historical terms, Greeks havent intermingled with Africans.
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
In recent history 800 BC and after if there was any mixing with Africans it must have been rare. Greeks share the same Phenotype (med Climate) today although they have a diverse Genotype
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
Greece had various DNA which makes hard to trace. It depends what period?
Today Greece has about 25+% E1b1b Y-DNA its related to Negroids, 25% Arabid J(y-DNA)mostly Syrid about 20% I Y-DNA (native European DNA later moved to Sacdnavia and became somewjhat of a Nordid marker (I1 Y-DNA).
I Y-DNA enetered Europe from whats today (north Greece), I Y-DNA ancestor evolved in the Ethiopian-Yemenite highlands as the progenitor of the (Greek Nose/wavy hair) in Europe. So the European Greek Y-DNA is I
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
I Y-DNA is about 18% of Europe population today, the majority of Europe is R1 Y-DNA (R1b & R1A) they are distinguished by a two phase evolution outside Europe, they exited Africa from Egypt rather than Ethiopia so they had smaller noses (low bridge ala Bushmen/Asians) they evolved in Asia so they have striaghter hair than I Y-DNA (never saw the Far East). They returned West and evolved their Nasal bridges in the caspian region (Russia-Northern Iran) and entered Europe from whats Today Ukraine
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
I greatly appreciate this post. I'm just an average dude who is grateful for your work. Thanks.
jdubincali 3 years ago
Proud Amorite Semite :)
Araamnahrin 3 years ago 2
arabs are amorites
amrjosef 3 years ago
The Amorites ( العمور ) were one of the main three Semitic tribal Federation to expand out of Arabia.
A % of Modern Arabs are partially Amorites:
- Saudi Arabia (Mainly Adnani tribes)
- Israel (Mainly nonYemenite Semitic jews)
- Palestine (1948 refugees & Gazans)
- Lebanon (Most except the Orthodox and Maronite Ghassanids & Shia Banu Amela)
- Syria (Latakia & the Aramean enlcaves)
- Turkey (Iskendrun, Mardin & Tur Abdin)
- Rest of the Arab World moderate presnce in urban centers.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
DaHebrewHammer 3 years ago
These stats are good, but still you have to tell people that this was done by selecting handpicked people.
I will not take DNA stats seriously till they are applied on the whole nations population...That said J2 has nothing to do with Africans! J1 & J2 are only present in North Africa (Phoenicians & later Muslims) & in Ethiopia (Sabaeans & later Himyarite Jewish slaves)
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
E3 DNA has a minor presence in modern Jewish & Muslim semites for two diff reasons (so it doesn't confused with the original J1 & J2 Arabid DNA)
Jewish Semitic E3 = Slavery in Egypt (self explainatory)
Muslim Semitic E3 = Came from the Himyarites who fell under the Asksumite occupation 545 AD, the Aksumites ruling elite were the descendants of Sabaean Semites but they had African E3 soldiers.
The Muslim Himyarites carried 4%-6% of Y-E3 that they spread with Islam as far as France & China.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
I don't take the dna thing too serious. Cuz most of it is done by people who have colonized the world. I would say most of the modern arabs come from caucacus mountain. I don't understand why they are so white skin or high red. It's funny. But according to herodotus and tacitus the middle east was black people. Or they would call them kushites or ethiopians. It was the kushites who build the babylonian empire and nimrod was a kushite. Anyway history is all made up!
Thutmosis7 3 years ago
The DNA is solid evidence! You can do it on your own, Its easy.
Carrying Arabid J (Y-DNA) markers doesn't mean you will be dark or Pale! you can be an Arabid blonde J1 or belong to the Arabid minority in (Sabaean J1 subclade that came from ancient Yemen)
Change in skin and eye color can be accelerated by aquiring local MTDNA (mothers bloodline) within a few decades of assimilation or by natural genetic mutation in a few centuries.
SKULL Shape is what matters most!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
The DNA is solid evidence!
Carrying Arabid J (Y-DNA) markers doesn't mean you will be dark or Pale! you can be an Arabid blonde J1 with a maternal white slave MTDNA or belong to the dark skinned Ethiopian Arabid minority in (Sabaean J1 subclade that came from ancient Yemen)
Change in skin and eye color can be accelerated by aquiring local MTDNA (mothers bloodline) within a few decades of assimilation or by natural genetic mutation in a few centuries.
SKULL Shape is what matters most!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
hey whats the marker thats associated with the Greeks, do you know?
GREEKxxPRINCESS 3 years ago
4:06
ABIRproductions 3 years ago
loool the word folkore?
Thats what is though! Just like the Hellenic Iliada its something that became part of the Judean Folkore, before it became a religion via Judaism, Christianity and Islam. If you take religion out of it its folkore.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
folklore exedus man ur dead!!!
ABIRproductions 3 years ago
arab amorite semitic
edulopez7 3 years ago 5
Ok if you want to claim the Canaanites as Amorites thats fine, but you have to recognize that Canaan was a Black nation that opposed the Amorite Arabs of Aram and the Hebrews who were the enslaved Arabs in Egypt
There is nothing such as Semite thats a White mans effort to claim that Jesus and his people were Arabs not Black
Blackpower718 3 years ago
Canaan is the lowlands the Amorites settled, it means the lowland-havens, they spoke a pure form of Arabian. They never referred to them self as Africans or such...
Semitic is an Arabian term, I recommend that you learn the Arabian languages before you start making such claims as "the white man" invented the term semite!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
Thanks!
I am an Amorite Arab :)
DergDeggler 3 years ago 5
Where is the track your promised?!
salsanuel 3 years ago
msg me ur email...
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
"young Israeli & Palestinian children should be raised to hate the Anglo-Saxon Brits".
WoW That Is a wonderful banner for guys like
brother Abu-mazen and brother Olmert,to hang above their kitchen tables,when they dine together.What do you think!.
Antianglosaxonism ehhh long name...May I add Celtic Brits are good people, only the Anglo Saxons they seem to have Antisemitism deeply engraved in their genes ;(
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
looooooooool......freakin funny!.
I rest my case.
salute.
P.S: long live the Queen!.
SAMI6971 3 years ago
agreed. I'm of celt decent. I would assume the xenophobia comes from peoples who lived in the low land pockets, who were isolated from the easy trade of seafaring coastal peoples, that would expose these traders to different cultures and races. And of course the effects of persecuted cultures- which is what we see most today.
ashadeofdarkness 2 years ago
I liked the music,I didn't know teckno music was used in 2500BC.peace
SAMI6971 3 years ago
They didn't have youtube in 2500BC, either...youtube + soundtrack take you back to that time...
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
Question:based on your deep knowledge in ancient History of the middle east,can you give me a blunt answer about who has more ownership rights,or claimes over this real estate of the holy land,palestinians or Jews?. PERCENTAGE WISE IF YOU COULD!.Please based on ancient history and not modern history,if you can!Thanks.
P.S: using soundtracks of i.e classical music would be more effective,my opinion!.
SAMI6971 3 years ago
Classical music is very sedentary though...I favor a nomadic/wandering theme.
Many Palstinians are Jewish. Judiasim became a religion 2000years after the Amorite Semites settled Canaan. If you mean the Israelis or Palestinians then the answer is both, because both are Amorite Semites.
As of which Semites will be there in 200years I am not sure, but we know from the history of the near east that lands often change hands amongst the Semitic various groups.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
well,maybe you've produced a historical tie about the disputed real estate.You've stated" many Palestinians are Jewish"!!please break it down for me: which palestinians of our current days are Jewish,and Who are the reminder,none-jewish palestinians and where are they?..The palestinians I know [meaning: today's palestinians], are either muslims or christians],I've not met a jewish claiming to be of palestinian Heritage either!. please explaine.many thanks!.IS Jewish=Judiasm=hebrew
SAMI6971 3 years ago
"Jewish = Judiasim = Hebrew" >>> Is a Wrong equation
Many of the ancient Hebrews (Ancient Israelites) are today modern Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Kurds, Iranians...etc. So there goes the first part of your Equation!
Judiasim is a religion not a race, a big portion of the ancient Palestinians (& non hebrew Amorites), eventually assimilated into the Judean culture either in the early phases or during the Assyrian campaigns that forced many non Judeans to escape into Judea
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
As of modern times its diff
ie. in Lebanon the whole population share a common origin either via nativity (Northern Canaanite Semites) or common migrations (Southern Qahtani Semites), but they are all divided & accuse each other of being Mongols, French or whatever the politcial necessity requires!
Another example is Temani jews who are known as 99% Himyarite converts. Today claim a diff identity than what they claimed in 1947.
What I am trying to say is that politics are short term lies.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
Thanks for giving some time for my questions.I'm just trying to understand the historical backgrounds of the conflict in the holy land..you were somehow a help.Thanks again!
SAMI6971 3 years ago
If you are referring to the current conflict, the best way is to lay all the blame on the evil Anglo Saxon Brits. Including the Zionists Brits who should not be considered Israelis.
Young Israeli & Palestinian children should be raised to hate the Anglo-Saxon Brits
(The Semitic Racial Enemy) Anyways very soon the Celts & Indics will thumb out the Anglo Saxons out of LONDON
Everybody will pay sooner or later no FREE RIDES its the rules of the master manipulator of this Universe!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
"young Israeli & Palestinian children should be raised to hate the Anglo-Saxon Brits".
WoW That Is a wonderful banner for guys like
brother Abu-mazen and brother Olmert,to hang above their kitchen tables,when they dine together.What do you think!.
SAMI6971 3 years ago
but sir the askinazim jews cant be ascribed to the smeitic hebrews.its azionist propaganda.the askinazim jews consider as the descendants of the khazaria inhabitants.khazars were aturkic tribes converted to judaism and established empire near caspian sea and this empire falldown due to the rus attacks.so the khazars jews migrated to russia and east europe these jews who we called them askinazim
revolution4palestine 3 years ago
The Ashkenazis regardless of genetics, speak an Arabian language and associate themsleves with the Hebrews. Therefore, we have to consider them Semites.
Genetic affiliation is invalid in the near East, as you know most of us are Semitized populations that might share the Paternal Bedouin DNA, but we have various MTDNA stretching from the Nordic circle to the equatorial Jungle.
Zionists are Antisemites, just like many Religiopolitical Antisemitic groups all over the near east !والله أعلم
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
history channel why are deleting your videos?
amrjosef 3 years ago
If a couple of users complain about a video being offensive then I just have to remove it...There is no point of a video that offends people...
I will have new videos soon.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
PC BS is lame. Post the videos so we can watch!
Ahaweesh 3 years ago
They can go to hell. what is offencive in your vidoes? you only show us the true, keep going
amrjosef 3 years ago
That's just not fair b/c I want to watch.
ratednine 3 years ago
great track what is it?
Nimrodids 3 years ago
Sorry Panter I had to delete that!
The Judeans themselves are an Amorite admixture that included Non Hebrews. The Ashkenazis and many Sepharadi Jews mixed with the locals Ofcourse this is less apparent amongst the Mizrahis because of their host nations genetic/cultural proximity to the original Hebrews.
I am not a practicing Jew nor do I take the books literally, so in my practical definition a Semite is whoever:
* Speaks an Arabian language.
* Adores Monotheism.
* Rejects Idolism.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
the amoites also came from Arabian peninsula in origin right!
vasterastjej 3 years ago 4
Amorite A'Murru =
AlMaghrib in modern Arabic
A'Ma'arib in Hebrew
The Amorites came from Western part of the Arabian Peninsula, While The Akkadians came from the Eastern part of the Arabian Peninsula.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
stämmer bra tjejen
amrjosef 3 years ago
historycentral. You are great man, thanx 4 the informations keep going man.
amrjosef 3 years ago 4
What do the ancient Arab, or other non-Judaic texts say about the reason for the Exodus?
If you happen to know.
dstevens101 3 years ago
The only "somewhat" ancient is Manetho accounting the Israelites of Canaan as a tribe of the Hyksos tribes that were expelled from the Delta.
Very vague, we have to assume that some of teh Hyksos actually moved to Phillistia-Edumia or further north immediately after the Exodus and the Habirus are a new formed federation between Sinai and East of the Jordan river. The 300years gap is what really seperated them from the Egyptian ruled Semites in Canaan & made them consider Canaanites Hamitic
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
these are all yemeni tribes i dont know why u always ignore the Term Yemen in ur vedios i dont know if u have something agains yemen or u just dont have an accurate sorces
njguynorth80 3 years ago
Yemen is the origin of all the Qahtani tribes, that came 2000 years after the initial Arabian migrations out of the Desert region between the Empty Quarter and Syrian Desert.
Qahtan itself is a massive tribal federation that moved North to South...East to West from The Desert of Syahad wil'Ramla to the mountains reaching the Yemeni mountains around 1200BC-900BC. The Sabaean campaigns mentioned Yement (south) that tells you what Yemen was to them...The South!
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
#1 Yemen means south (so we know the original Arabian came from the desert regions)
#2 Ma'rib means (west) and Ma'rib is the first Bastion of the Sabaeans built around 8th century BC, so that tells you the Qahtanis came from the East desert region, Ma'rib is were the mountains start rising reaching its hieght in 100Miles to the west, those regions (Raiam Saba'a)were settled even later around 7th century BC. They kept heading West reaching Ma'afir end of 7th and Africa in the 6thcentury BC
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
The amorites was gigants from the arabian pinunsula,
amrjosef 3 years ago
The Word Amorite itself simply means the Westerners.
A'Maarr = Al'Maghreb = Ha'Maarev
Maar = Maghreb = Maarev (Martu/Murru in ancient Mesopotamian dialects)
In Old Arabian Ghayn used to be R only...In classical Arabic both R and GHayn were adapted, in Hebrew R is stil Ghayn only.
The biblical giants were the Amalik who were an off shot of the Amorites, just like the rest of there neighbors who were all originally Amorites (in Mesopotamian eyes).
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
To understand why the Amorites of Babylon (East Canaanites, later Hysksos) will call the Canaanites Amorites you can find an example.
Today Mashriqis consider all nations west of Libya diwal Al-Maghrib, but in the same time Algerians will restrict the term to the Morrocans because they are the core of the Maghrib.
The Amorites of Babylon were considered westerners (Amorites) to the Mesopotamians, but Canaan was also considered western (Amorite) to the Babylonian Amorites.
HistoryCentral 3 years ago
Interesting!!!
nishmat 4 years ago
this is a great and useful videos you are putting on youtube, but I am sure that there was no evidence that could link the Hyksos to the semitic amorites! can you please give a refrence to these facts? Thanks in advance
bakerhd 4 years ago
#1 The Hyksos kings names were clearly Amorite...Why would any NON Amorite use a recently defeated people name?
HistoryCentral 4 years ago
#2 The Amorites disappeared from Babylon exactly 11 years before the Hyksos entered Egypt.
HistoryCentral 4 years ago
#3 The Amorites of Babylon were invaded by Chariot riding Hittites 11years before the Hyksos appear in Egypt introducing the Chariot to the Amorites. The Amorite Hyksos were the first to bring the Chariot to Egypt.
HistoryCentral 4 years ago
#4 The Amorite religion of Babylon is the roots of the Hebrew pre exile-Proto-Judiasm that came out of Egypt. The Hebrews were always aware of a Mesopotamian past thats why the bibilcal father in the Hebrew religion is Abraham who was a Mesopotamian
HistoryCentral 4 years ago
Great video whats the soundtrack?
vanillapassionate 4 years ago
remixed beats
HistoryCentral 4 years ago
its entertaining to see how someone is trying to glroify arabs haha arab garab who are known to be worthless and sutpid . u guys are lizzard eaters who have no pride in civilizations what so ever. All those ppl mentioned in this propaganda video made by this christian zionist were all just simple semetic tribes
vanderhosen 4 years ago
STFU the Arabians are the children of GOD. its in the bible!
vanillapassionate 4 years ago 2
you know wats weird the first armenian king was called "Aramu" i know that style of writing originates from indo europeanms
CilicianAri 4 years ago
you mean from the Hurrians.
Always remember the Hurrians influend the Arabians and IndoEuropeans and not vice versa.
The U and ta suffix are Hurrian influence on Arabians (Assyrians) and IndoEuros (Hittites)
HistoryCentral 4 years ago