Haraway's "Cyborg Manifesto"

[argie1940]

Haraway explorations refer to the "actual situation of women in their integration/exploitation into a world system of prodcution/reproduction and communication, calles the informatics of domination. The home, workplace, market, public arena, the body itself - all can be dispersed and interfaced in nearly infinite, polymorphous ways, with large consequences for women and others..." (page 163).

[SovereignBeing]

this is another push for their borg races of cloned robots who are better slaves than the current set .. they are already creating synthetics & clones in their underground bases.. These artifiical 'people' will be programmed to do anything they want, they will be devoid of emotion.. they will no longer have to use mind control to create assassins, monarchs, green stars, presidents etc.. they will just create all these programs from the lab...

[jamdogs]

ISIS!

[tomgarden]

nuggy. Its so interesting. Cos before you know it, conversations like these are going to be mainstreamed with the arrival of the Bicentennial man. lol. where would they fit in... its wierd

[Iberianwildwolf]

It's hard to interpret these concepts. You were brave! Thanks for sharing.

[CaptainHusky]

Prepare to assume.....

CORTEX COMMAND!!!!!!!!!

[terpsitheartemis]

Great....its so difficult to grasp you know we dont really have a concept of all this - so its difficult to accept as it is difficult to love an intersex person we have to know what is s-he? a man a woman what as what can i love you what shall i be but as soon you start this question- you already have crossed the border... good- bad do - do not value- de value man - machine

[Victimoftheinsane]

this is isis, isn't it?

[OgallalaKnowhow]

I think that there is an easy mistranslation that can be made reading 'Cyborg Manifesto'.

The cyborg is not a teleological singularity. It is a way to examine human interaction with technology not as tools but as actors that shape our lives.

Harraway is being extremely playful, interested in 'fruitful couplings' - the twist on Marx is a jest more than a revisitation.

And that is the problem with post-humanism, adherents will consider themselves a vanguard - 'a next step'. To what?

[zezt]

LOVE the music, but errrm dya think we can talk in English instead of postpostmodernlish?

Are you saying you dont mind being plugged into the maan's machine?

[rich02468]

rather than the violence perpetrated by our bi-polar gender system, we would invite the soft static wash of a genderless system, preferring the constant penetration of the surgical knife and silicon chips. A useful fictional tool perhaps, but in application, who would create or own such technology? To whom does it belong, the creator or the user? The human body, springing from the earth, is sufficient, and to invite external means of control and surveillance is an injustice.

[28g34ajbsd]

to rich02468: (hyper-)reality check, dude: the Internet is already an extension of your body. you don't need the posthumanists having to have to explain it to ya, just brush off old MacLuan's books.

[awh06]

Thanks so much for the video!

I finally feel that i have a better grip on it all!

[ouncefeather]

why run away from being human/human being? has human potential been so much misapplied that some believe there is no more HUMAN potential still to explore? i think humanity aspiring machinewards is denigrating/detrimental/dysfun­ctional/despairing/delusional.­.. dangerous and self-destructive. humanity looking to itself in isolation as if a self-made artefact and so spiralling in toward nullification. without purpose there is no meaning, if meaning is solely self-defined then it is arbitrary

[Acumensch]

I think humans are fundamentally flawed and cannot live comfortably in the world without falsifying it. Once we embrace posthumanity, ideas like cyborgs seem more plausible. I used your idea to interpret Haraway, except I made a video using clips from "Ghost in the Shell".

[WilliamBaus]

What do you think of the idea that as technology increases our ability to initiate destructive force increases, eventually to the point where it becomes a relative certainty that any race that attains this pinnacle of technological innovation will destroy itself?

[iconoclashing]

I guess my answer would be that I hope that isn't the case. I think the power of Haraway's work is her insistence that we incorporate traditionally feminized modes of thought into our traditionally masculinized understanding of technology. I think the ways of thinking that privilege life over miltary power have been feminized, and in order to keep ourselves from self-annihilation, we need to stop separating technology from 'feminine' thought.

[WilliamBaus]

Ok I agree it would be good to integrate the inward focus (fem) with the outward focus (mas) but technology by its very definition is masculine (control or manipulation of the external).

[WilliamBaus]

So I don't that that we can really integrate the two...but my main point was that as technology increases even the accidental not the intentional could cause our extinction. A virus, a host of self replicating nanobots that decide re-assimilate everything into gold...not to mention that if someone is willing to solve their problems by strapping a bomb on their back they would probably release a virus or some technology to destroy the world...

[Keim4ever]

@WilliamBaus well as technology increases and as we start to merge with machines, we start to spread throughout the cosmos, making us more stable. (even with more destructive weapons)

And people act and behave in destructive ways mostly due to defects, a poor upbringing, and being around and when people believe in things that isn't true.

[maggaphone]

this is a cool idea