Of all the cars we raced with our Fords...the Mopars were the toughest there were. They were dependable, tough, fast, awesome on the top end and you had to be on top of your game to beat them. i used to get really pissed off at how ell these guys cars ran. Then I switched my anger towards Ford for not giving us more to work with.. and I remain that way today...Ford engineering management is the shits and none of them truly understand drag racing.. They all need fired by Mr. Ford.
To the nit wit that says the Hemi;s are shit motors..let me say this...the only shit involved here is between his ears..go to a drag strip and tell me how many fuel cars use anything but a "Chrysler based Hemispherical" type engine...certainly none of the low life small block Chevrolet crap....the Hemi rules and was banned form Nascar and NHRA Super Stock so the Chibbies could win cause up against the Mopars..the Chibbies never had a prayer.
@aminimaleffort..I do not know..I'm going to say sometime in the 90's because at around that time the Mopar guys started getting riled up with NHRA and new associations sprang up like Pacific Street Car Association that allowed them.
The best Chamber shape for a Hemi is that of the Original 392, it's biggest problem was 4 head bolts per cyl....whicvh pretty much limited Cylinder pressures, Brad Anderson uses that same Chamber is his Engines.,..BAE
@raginroadrunner ..I started out somewhere in the late fifties, on into the sixties and ever since I have not left the world of high horsepower gas engineS and heavy thumbing diesel. Worked for em..all..been there and back...and what makes a "HemI" Mopar so unique is that you can set a cylinder head on a block without the valves ..look down through an intake port and straight on through the exhaust port....a straight line...this is one thing that makes them so lethal on the top end..the flow...
you write to yourself, how cute. how i a hemi head on my valve and guide machine right now, what you are saying is not true. you cannot look into the intake and see out the exhaust.
@aminimaleffort...dam close to it..I know from how you sound you are a Chibbie guy that got your ass kicked by a Mopar..it's OK,,you not the first and you dam sure won;t be the last one..Chibbie Dudes have to learn the hard way..but a good ass kicking shuts em up..
@aminimaleffort ..I don't have to look at anything to know that when we staged against a Mopar it was game on and it wasn't that chickencrap bracket racing..it was balls to the walls round robin...the most durable, best running and best driven survived..all the rest went on the trailers...it was a real man's racing back then..compared to today.. this is for wimps...too many know it all's that think they got a real rig when in reality all they got is............"Crap"...
That computes as the wedge head Ford small blocks make incredible torque and hp......... In Nitro funny car, is the same thing true???...and top fuel???.....ya never get a technical update off of the TV just the same old blabber mouths going on and on about the same old thing...Thx....RR
The thing that has me confused in that in NHRA Pro Stock, the wedge head Chevs are stomping the hell out of the Mopar Hemi's...whats up with that???..is this another problem Detroit has with getting the right people in the car or what???..Some body help me out with this as I live so far from a major drag strip all I get to see is on "Speed" channel...
Lots of interest???..no one else is doing anyhting with them...Hemi's have a problem with evacuation of exhaust gasses..they are hard to get them to pass emmissions..that may be why the new Hemi is not really a Hemi at all ,it does not use a domed piston.. their advantage is just fractions of what it used to be with new technology in bowl configurations....the Ford Tunnel Port was just as strong, Ford determination was not.
@raginroadrunner Super stock hemis sound fucking amazing though, they really sing in the upper rpm's! O own a Plymouth Fury with a 400 cubic inch big block wedge, however, and there's alot to be said about that motor too. It has the same bore as a 440, for example.
@ScoopDaddy488 Yeah, thanks. As I said, alot of people argue with me about the 400 having a larger bore than the 440, I get tired of posting bore sizes lol I just call 'em "about the same" the major difference being stroke, 440 has 8 or 9 mm on the 400 if I remember correctly.
@DeAdiSSu3 I feel you, I think the 400 has about the same stroke of a 360 I think, I know the 440 and hemi ran a 3.75 stroke. Chrysler should have built the last hemi's with the 440 or 400 bore, I know the 400 was a later engine but I know it was on the drawing board during that time, a 450+ inch hemi would have for real erased the ls6 454 from ever being mentioned lol.
@ScoopDaddy488 Yeah it's a really cool package, the 383 and 400 big blocks have a very short stroke, which means that they rev freely like a small block, but that "big block" torque comes in extremely early and there's alot of it! They also get decent mileage, only real drawback is the weight of the block itself. I'm building up a 400 big block for my '73 fury actually, it's already got a working rotating assembly topped off with keith black racing pistons. I'm fuckin' pumped! Lol
@DeAdiSSu3 I am doing a 440 build myself, 440 source aluminum heads and forged budget rods, a lunati voodoo cam, going to run forged pistons I think i am going to run SRP, eddy performer intake, summit 750 carb, pro-form 1.6 rockers. I have everything except the rods, pistons and rockers to build it just saving up the dough to finish it. I imagine with it being balanced and some good block work running 10.5-10.8 compression range It will make close to 500hp. Never had a big block so im stoked.
@DeAdiSSu3 I also plan to run a 150 shot on it, the motor is going in a 83 d150, that I am making a 69 super bee six pack clone out of it, I already have a 6 pack hood on it blacked out, going to paint it the new b5 blue, and put a white super bee stripe on the back like they had. I got me some widend wheel vintiques steelies for the back, it already had the steelies on it to begin with. Just going to be a nice friday night cruiser, and a saturday night foot brake bruiser.
@ScoopDaddy488 Oh FUCK yes! What motor are you going to run? That sounds like a really fun project, i'm kind of bummed that I can't work on that car haha
@DeAdiSSu3 A 440, later on I might do a 440 source stroker kit, go to 500 or 512 ci, but the motor is a 11,000 mile low compression motor home motor, and I am just going to freshen it up with the goodies for the time being I really dont want to spend $1800 right now for a full rotating assembly, I figured tho making a truck interpetation of a super bee would be unique and fun and functional. I got some red 440 decals to go on the scoop to mimic the SIX PACK callout on the hood.
@DeAdiSSu3 I just hope it don't get stole lol, I have a bunch of crap in my garage, along with that a 2010 challenger r/t, so the ole trucky will sit outside in the weather. Its been a long time coming, I def would like to grudge race some lightnings maybe for a little coin, there is a few around here that run pretty damn good, I might have to 200 shot em or more lol.
@Tarten46 ...Ford started experimentation with the "HemI" concept many years ago but war production put it on hold. The "Hemispherical" concept was not a Chrysler original but rather one that came out of an obscure car maker in Northern Michigan that went out of business earlyin the first part of the century. About this time some German engine makers worked with it but gave it up. The strange thing about it is that no one else has had any interest in the design since that time.
@raginroadrunner chrysler noticed its merits during war time production. they made it work and most late model engines use it. looks like theres lots of interest in it.
Charlie just lives down the road from me, and this is the first time I have ever seen him race the warfish. I used to go watch him run his Beretta, with his Dad.
martin looks like a short track at the high end, GREAT DRIVER! the shift points sounded perfect and he has a lot of guts running it out the back door at this track.
Super stock has had different itterations over the last 35 years, but these cars have evolved for the better. I raced in 79 to 82 with a SS/J 66 deuce and the best improvements were tubbing, six point cages or better for rigidity, any rear end, transmission replacements, and improvements in engine parts for longevity. Things just evolve for the better but the intent is still the same. These cars run a full 2 seconds quicker than in 1968. Not bad for 41 year old technology with improvements.
Of all the cars we raced with our Fords...the Mopars were the toughest there were. They were dependable, tough, fast, awesome on the top end and you had to be on top of your game to beat them. i used to get really pissed off at how ell these guys cars ran. Then I switched my anger towards Ford for not giving us more to work with.. and I remain that way today...Ford engineering management is the shits and none of them truly understand drag racing.. They all need fired by Mr. Ford.
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
car manufacturers do no build for racers.
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
To the nit wit that says the Hemi;s are shit motors..let me say this...the only shit involved here is between his ears..go to a drag strip and tell me how many fuel cars use anything but a "Chrysler based Hemispherical" type engine...certainly none of the low life small block Chevrolet crap....the Hemi rules and was banned form Nascar and NHRA Super Stock so the Chibbies could win cause up against the Mopars..the Chibbies never had a prayer.
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
exactly when were the hemi cars banned from SS/ class?
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@aminimaleffort..I do not know..I'm going to say sometime in the 90's because at around that time the Mopar guys started getting riled up with NHRA and new associations sprang up like Pacific Street Car Association that allowed them.
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
SS is a stock class, hemi's still fun in Super Stock.
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
The best Chamber shape for a Hemi is that of the Original 392, it's biggest problem was 4 head bolts per cyl....whicvh pretty much limited Cylinder pressures, Brad Anderson uses that same Chamber is his Engines.,..BAE
ChiefCabioch 7 months ago
What is your mechanical background???..please advise...RR
raginroadrunner 8 months ago
@raginroadrunner ..I started out somewhere in the late fifties, on into the sixties and ever since I have not left the world of high horsepower gas engineS and heavy thumbing diesel. Worked for em..all..been there and back...and what makes a "HemI" Mopar so unique is that you can set a cylinder head on a block without the valves ..look down through an intake port and straight on through the exhaust port....a straight line...this is one thing that makes them so lethal on the top end..the flow...
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
you write to yourself, how cute. how i a hemi head on my valve and guide machine right now, what you are saying is not true. you cannot look into the intake and see out the exhaust.
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@aminimaleffort...dam close to it..I know from how you sound you are a Chibbie guy that got your ass kicked by a Mopar..it's OK,,you not the first and you dam sure won;t be the last one..Chibbie Dudes have to learn the hard way..but a good ass kicking shuts em up..
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
you might want to go look at NHRA and IHRA statistics before you talk shit.
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@aminimaleffort ..I don't have to look at anything to know that when we staged against a Mopar it was game on and it wasn't that chickencrap bracket racing..it was balls to the walls round robin...the most durable, best running and best driven survived..all the rest went on the trailers...it was a real man's racing back then..compared to today.. this is for wimps...too many know it all's that think they got a real rig when in reality all they got is............"Crap"...
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
That computes as the wedge head Ford small blocks make incredible torque and hp......... In Nitro funny car, is the same thing true???...and top fuel???.....ya never get a technical update off of the TV just the same old blabber mouths going on and on about the same old thing...Thx....RR
raginroadrunner 8 months ago
That should have been a red light. He never stopped moving in the lights.
TheTodd2u 8 months ago
The thing that has me confused in that in NHRA Pro Stock, the wedge head Chevs are stomping the hell out of the Mopar Hemi's...whats up with that???..is this another problem Detroit has with getting the right people in the car or what???..Some body help me out with this as I live so far from a major drag strip all I get to see is on "Speed" channel...
raginroadrunner 9 months ago
@raginroadrunner
hemi is a shit motor, old technology
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@aminimaleffort..Dude..you got serious mental problems....you need to take a couple of cases of "Ex Lax"...
raginroadrunner 2 months ago
@raginroadrunner
alright dumbass, what makes it so good? it was proven 25 years ago that it is not the
hemispherical combustion chambers, let's see what you know.
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
Lots of interest???..no one else is doing anyhting with them...Hemi's have a problem with evacuation of exhaust gasses..they are hard to get them to pass emmissions..that may be why the new Hemi is not really a Hemi at all ,it does not use a domed piston.. their advantage is just fractions of what it used to be with new technology in bowl configurations....the Ford Tunnel Port was just as strong, Ford determination was not.
raginroadrunner 10 months ago
@raginroadrunner Super stock hemis sound fucking amazing though, they really sing in the upper rpm's! O own a Plymouth Fury with a 400 cubic inch big block wedge, however, and there's alot to be said about that motor too. It has the same bore as a 440, for example.
DeAdiSSu3 9 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 I just say "it has the same bore" because so many people argue with me if I say the 400 had a slightly larger bore than the 440....
DeAdiSSu3 8 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 400 4.380 bore, 440 4.320 bore, hemi 4.25 bore
ScoopDaddy488 7 months ago
@ScoopDaddy488 Yeah, thanks. As I said, alot of people argue with me about the 400 having a larger bore than the 440, I get tired of posting bore sizes lol I just call 'em "about the same" the major difference being stroke, 440 has 8 or 9 mm on the 400 if I remember correctly.
DeAdiSSu3 7 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 I feel you, I think the 400 has about the same stroke of a 360 I think, I know the 440 and hemi ran a 3.75 stroke. Chrysler should have built the last hemi's with the 440 or 400 bore, I know the 400 was a later engine but I know it was on the drawing board during that time, a 450+ inch hemi would have for real erased the ls6 454 from ever being mentioned lol.
ScoopDaddy488 6 months ago
@ScoopDaddy488 Yeah it's a really cool package, the 383 and 400 big blocks have a very short stroke, which means that they rev freely like a small block, but that "big block" torque comes in extremely early and there's alot of it! They also get decent mileage, only real drawback is the weight of the block itself. I'm building up a 400 big block for my '73 fury actually, it's already got a working rotating assembly topped off with keith black racing pistons. I'm fuckin' pumped! Lol
DeAdiSSu3 6 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 I am doing a 440 build myself, 440 source aluminum heads and forged budget rods, a lunati voodoo cam, going to run forged pistons I think i am going to run SRP, eddy performer intake, summit 750 carb, pro-form 1.6 rockers. I have everything except the rods, pistons and rockers to build it just saving up the dough to finish it. I imagine with it being balanced and some good block work running 10.5-10.8 compression range It will make close to 500hp. Never had a big block so im stoked.
ScoopDaddy488 6 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 I also plan to run a 150 shot on it, the motor is going in a 83 d150, that I am making a 69 super bee six pack clone out of it, I already have a 6 pack hood on it blacked out, going to paint it the new b5 blue, and put a white super bee stripe on the back like they had. I got me some widend wheel vintiques steelies for the back, it already had the steelies on it to begin with. Just going to be a nice friday night cruiser, and a saturday night foot brake bruiser.
ScoopDaddy488 6 months ago
@ScoopDaddy488 Oh FUCK yes! What motor are you going to run? That sounds like a really fun project, i'm kind of bummed that I can't work on that car haha
DeAdiSSu3 6 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 A 440, later on I might do a 440 source stroker kit, go to 500 or 512 ci, but the motor is a 11,000 mile low compression motor home motor, and I am just going to freshen it up with the goodies for the time being I really dont want to spend $1800 right now for a full rotating assembly, I figured tho making a truck interpetation of a super bee would be unique and fun and functional. I got some red 440 decals to go on the scoop to mimic the SIX PACK callout on the hood.
ScoopDaddy488 6 months ago
@ScoopDaddy488 Wow...so how does it feel, knowing you'll have the most unique, badass truck in your area? Lol
DeAdiSSu3 6 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3 I just hope it don't get stole lol, I have a bunch of crap in my garage, along with that a 2010 challenger r/t, so the ole trucky will sit outside in the weather. Its been a long time coming, I def would like to grudge race some lightnings maybe for a little coin, there is a few around here that run pretty damn good, I might have to 200 shot em or more lol.
ScoopDaddy488 5 months ago
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@DeAdiSSu3
this from a 19 year old kid who lives in his parents house
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@DeAdiSSu3
sure you do, which car are you going to claim you have today?
aminimaleffort 2 months ago
@aminimaleffort Come again? I own a '73 Fury III hardtop coupe...??
DeAdiSSu3 2 months ago
Glad to see that Ford 9" rear axle putting down the power..
raginroadrunner 10 months ago
That is " Rafterman" from Full Metal Jacket. He showed the car at the Orange County Ca Car Show one time. Cool guy.
quantico80 11 months ago
We'd like to take this time to thank Ford and GM for using Chrysler Hemi's in their funny cars and top fuel racers...........
Tarten46 11 months ago
@Tarten46 ...Ford started experimentation with the "HemI" concept many years ago but war production put it on hold. The "Hemispherical" concept was not a Chrysler original but rather one that came out of an obscure car maker in Northern Michigan that went out of business earlyin the first part of the century. About this time some German engine makers worked with it but gave it up. The strange thing about it is that no one else has had any interest in the design since that time.
raginroadrunner 10 months ago
@raginroadrunner chrysler noticed its merits during war time production. they made it work and most late model engines use it. looks like theres lots of interest in it.
Tarten46 10 months ago
i'd rather walk then drive a mopar, but thats a bad ass machine
bigbadbronco86 1 year ago
@bigbadbronco86 You probably walk every where you go. Probably have no license or car.
SuperKing1320 1 year ago
@SuperKing1320 yea i just get your mom to come pick me up, she doesnt seem to mind much
bigbadbronco86 1 year ago
left early?
MrToiletclogger 1 year ago
That thing is, just, downright NASTY!!
rlh450rr 1 year ago
Underwhelming paint job for such a great car.
robkal56 1 year ago
'Super stock has had different itterations over the last 35 years, but these cars have evolved for the better.'
Nonsense. They have evolved into the super UN-AFFORDABLE and COMPLEX.
440John 1 year ago
Charlie just lives down the road from me, and this is the first time I have ever seen him race the warfish. I used to go watch him run his Beretta, with his Dad.
brewster1958 2 years ago
oh GOD I love that sound.
ProfessorIgor 2 years ago
CONGRATS! To Charlie Westcott Sr. for his U.S. Nats win in the Hemi Shootout.
I LOVE these cars!!!
lookatmattscar 2 years ago
martin looks like a short track at the high end, GREAT DRIVER! the shift points sounded perfect and he has a lot of guts running it out the back door at this track.
enginear10 2 years ago
gotta agree with you enginear10, shut down area does not look very long at all!
tfxbillet 2 years ago
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Ivansson92 2 years ago
Very liked!
robwiley01 2 years ago
This was at US 131 Dragway, Martin MI.
ERICFORTUIN 2 years ago
@ERICFORTUIN I love that stripe i live up in saginaw, nice car!
xtreme01hac10docter 1 year ago
any idea what track this is?
BUDS6T7 2 years ago
A Mopar in it's finest form! It gets no better than this! One haulin HEMI !!
69moparman 2 years ago 2
Take a look at the manifolds on the Hemis now. Almost a tunnel ram! I still like watching them run!
edloughery 3 years ago
"Super Stock" my ass. What this car is, is nothing more than an Pro Stocker circa 1972 sans tunnel ram and Lenco trans.
Electrix
electrixladyland69 3 years ago
Super stock has had different itterations over the last 35 years, but these cars have evolved for the better. I raced in 79 to 82 with a SS/J 66 deuce and the best improvements were tubbing, six point cages or better for rigidity, any rear end, transmission replacements, and improvements in engine parts for longevity. Things just evolve for the better but the intent is still the same. These cars run a full 2 seconds quicker than in 1968. Not bad for 41 year old technology with improvements.
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tfxbillet 2 years ago