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Khumaini belongs to those who fled the battle while they had promised Imam Hassan that they will stay along. Now they regret what they did and try to mourn by beating the fuck out of themselves. but little they know that they are destined to fire of jahannum for their treason to Islam.
"Treason" to Islam? The Islamic Republic is the only authentically islamic political system in today's world. It has staid true to its principled islamic stance, refusing to bow to those occupation powers whose policies consist in subduing Muslim nations or peoples.
Authorities strive to maintain Islamic orientation in the management of society, economy, culture and politics. No system is perfect, and corruption exists in every society, but the important point is that those in charge are not yielding to such drifts but working on solving such issues wherever they arise.
slovakmath: Whatever you like to believe in or not, please don't insult the beliefs of others nor the idea of God, since provocations of this kind don't even serve your own cause, considering how you seek to bring your views accross.
Yaskachi: No, it is you who are wrong. The Holy Qur'ans description of Allah s.w.t. is purely and thorougly monotheistic. Allah s.w.t. is the Creator, is Absolute, and One. This has nothing to do with paganist idolatry. Give ethymologic pedantism of pseudo-scientific nature a break, and turn towards a recognized academic book for a change!
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Down with terrorist islamic regime in iran. Down with khamenei, Down with rafsanjani, Down with monkey ahmadinejad. Piss & Crap upon Khomeyni & his soul .
Yaskachi, I would rather say: down with the imperialist, oppressive, tyrannical materialist powers to be, which threaten Iran and Islam in order to advance their destructive, anti-human designs.
my comment is directed towards all gods especially the xtian, jewish and muslim definition of god, but not limited to just those three. quit believing in fairy tales and take more calculus and physics
Well, you are of course entitled to your opinion. I provided a few stats that you might want to look up, because the picture is not as bleak as you seem to believe. But then, this will only make for a good surprise as you witness how Iran will progress in the future.
On presstv dot ir, search for "Albright Iran election", then you'll find a report about how Madeleine Albright praised the high voter turnout at the recent Majles election. There are also other reports on the same site, indicating that the definitive voter turnout count stood at over 60%.
My points about HDI evolution aren't invalidated by the inflation issue. And those HDI figures and general economic indicators I cited before, weren't from the Iranian government sources, but from UNHDP, WB and IMF.
lol ur funny im just speechless its improved since shah ha lol oild prices have gone ballastic obvious GDP would improve wake up man i just give up ur head is so far up ur ass its unbelivable whos ur relative in the regime i have no dout uve gat some 1 in this regime which is why ur kill for them
Your information about the evolution of Iran's economic / social indicators appears surprisingly incomplete... fact remains, under the shah, oil prices also "went ballistic", namely after the first oil crisis in 1973, but Iran's HDI, from 1973 to 1978 *stagnated* (I am not making this up, see UNHDP figures), while today, the HDI is *steadily rising*, meaning we are avoiding the Dutch Disease much better than before. I've been talking HDI, not GDP - did you read my postings?
Secondly, look up the WB and IMF stats about the percentage of oil incomes in Iran's budget (not hard currency incomes): it is under 50% now, comparable to Russia, while it was over 80% before the Revolution!
Thirdly, as said, Iran's industrial non-oil sector has been growing *faster* than the oil incomes, *despite* skyrocketting oil prices.
Fourthly, we are exporting no less than 16 billion USD of non-oil commodities now, while under the shah these exports were close to 0.
Critics of the Revolution crack me up, in the sense that they immediately think all those who support the legitimacy of Iran's political order would be "paid" by the government, forgetting that the Islamic Republic was installed by the people through referendum, while voter turnouts at elections are above 65%. No Sir, I have no relatives in any government, I am an ordinary citizen who managed to see through the thick smokescreen of anti-Iran propaganda. You should lookup those stats too!
What do you mean "I'm kill for them"? Actually I am a very peaceful person and have no intention whatsoever to apply violence. However I noticed that exile Iranians who support "opposition" grouplets often tend to be very aggressive as well as threatening, specially when one manages to debunk their allegations! Just look at how violent and rude the language and actions of "opposition" grouplets are.
As said, I am well aware of the definitions. You should, however, look at Iran's HDI-growth after the Revolution! And compare growth of GDP with increase of HDI over time! Iran is by far not the only country that ranks better in GDP than HDI... But the difference between HDI- and GDP-ranking was greater before the Revolution, and more importantly, Iran's HDI constantly increased after the Revolution, while it was stagnating from 1973! So if this is not development, please explain what is.
So what are you suggesting, that we let them bomb us? At least the current government is not importing everything, and from the same people that want to prevent us from developing at that (such as the USA regime); it is promoting self-reliance rather than dependence on outside sources! The shah used to buy the most expensive weapons systems of the world at over-price, while the Islamic Resistance in the Lebanon can beat the US-zionist war machine with light arms made in Iran!
our peoples problems are that tey are paranoide,intrusive, still in the tenth century and gloy days, and this regime is the worst thing that uses some of the weakneses to keep on top the day peoples views change is the day youre type will sticks up youre ass.
There's no reason to be complexed by our history, nor to eternally live in some nostalgic, romanticized past. However, this does not mean we should brush aside history, that we should not be proud of our people's past achievements, or that inversely we should not learn from past mistakes (such as bending over to the west). We must also realize that Islam is part of our identity, and that the Iranian people strive for an Islamic system, which is perfectly apt to face the challenges of modernity.
Everywhere in the world, there are dress codes, and other laws pertaining to public morality. Iran is Islamic, the Iranian people chose to have an Islamic system, and they massively participate in elections, so those who still aren't happy should slowly begin to live with it. There is nothing wrong with translating our traditional Islamic and Iranian (námus) concepts of modesty into law, I largely prefer this to materialist consumerist exploitation of women as is the prevailing case in the west.
If anything, this is an honor, a sign of social advancement and prevalence of spirituality over materialism, none of which qualify as "primitive".
There are plenty of countries where religion plays an important role in society or even politics, one of them being the USA... however the so-called "Christian right" is abusing the very principles of Christianity.
first of all in states you have to work for what you get which means every one is at the bottom and they can clim up.
in you regime if you know any them youre up not because you deserve to be there, so what youre saying about being wealthy therefore every oen emigrateds bullshit
That is a myth of the capitalist system, to make everyone believe one "can" succeed if one "works hard", "educates oneself",... But facts speak otherwise, and material inequality is an organic part of the liberal capitalist social order, and therefore capitalism can only sell people a dream, nothing more. This suffice to fool people even if they know in advance that merely a minority will succeed. Worse, the USA system economically discriminates minorities. And, it keeps criminalizing the poor.
some of the thinks, unlike youre mullah regime that says if you say anything against me at all then your wrong full stop, i agree, they developed in eighteenth century by our resources but im not dum enough to sa they kill peole the same way as mullahs do.
It stems from observation of global events, that the USA and the zionist regime are among the worst human rights offenders in the world. The zionist regime is an apartheid state, the USA torture, kill and destroy nations in complete impunity. They merely manage to control their societies to such a point that fooling their own citizens and world opinion through the global media they control, becomes easy.
To begin with, the zionist regime itself estimates Iranian financial assistance to Hezbollah numbers a few hundred million USD a year... This is *nothing*, compared to Iran's overall budget. Plus, this is a totally necessary foreign policy expenditure which happens to be in Iran's national interest, because it provides a security guarantee against the zionist reigme. The shah spent much more on doing the USA's bidding in places such as Oman or Pakistan, as he sent his army to quell rebels there.
The amount spent by Iran on domestic development projects is many thousands of times superior to the assistance that Hezbollah and other allies might benefit from. That being said, every government has its foreign and security policy budget, Iran is no different.
The problem with fuel is record consumption, due to governmental subsidies, which make it affordable for everyone to own and operate a car. But new refineries are being built anyway, and soon Iran will export fuel, just as it recently became a wheat exporter for the first time in its modern history. Industrial growth is superior to growth of oil income, and Iran's HDI rose from roughly 0.57 in 1975 to 0.76 today, ranking it 16th among developing nations: this is the definition of development!
Additionally keep in mind that these excellent results in terms of development were achieved by the Islamic Republic *despite* 8 years of Imposed War that inflicted no less than 300 billion $ of damage on the Iranian economy, and *despite* doubling of the population... It is nothing short of a feat indeed.
Your are mistaken on Iran's defence capabilities! Iran isn't purchasing much from Russia, it is mainly developing an autonomous defence industry, which is one of the great achievements of the Revolution. The shah regime, which spend 30% of the budget on weapons purchases from the USA, and fully depended on the latter for spare parts. Iran is hugely more advanced today than it was the Revolution in terms of defence technology.
I'm aware of the difference, the point is, that Iran's HDI experienced an impressive growth since the Islamic Revolution. That's a fact attested by the UNHDP figures, so if you did not do that already, I would warmly suggest to look them up.
first of all imperial powers impose themeselves on countries that allow them you dont have to be a dictatorship calling yourself a democracy to stand up to them
japan did exactly what mullahs and khomeni wanted to do in the ww2 and the result was what we know of
since then once they started to grow economiclly does any country even think about trying to go around
Firstly´, Iran's a democracy, since each institution is either directly or indirectly elected by the people. Secondly, the Japan of World War 2 was itself an imperialist power, the Islamic Republic is not. Furthermore, imperialism can be defeated, this was demonstrated on various occasions and in different places, namely Iran since 1979, but also Vietnam, etc. National sovereignty has no price, and today Iran is one of the most politically independent countries in the world.
Because they are developed, with the resources they stole from Africa, Asia and central/south America. Other than that, one does suffer in the secular-liberal west too. Exacerbated consumerism and materialism, which dominate here, can and do drive many people crazy. There is racism, too. And if you happen to be at the lower scales of the socio-economic ladder, then life in the west is hell too!
Why would we expect Iran to be as developed? From the 18th century onwards, we, just like China and India, started to fall behind the west. But today we are awakening, rising again. We are one out of just 15 to launch satellites into space, etc. Let us not compromise our nation's destiny.
also im you yourself live in one of these countries which menas you cant give me any bollocks
between bad and worst being the mullahs i choose bad. i have to emphasis i hav not seen anything towards me that shows the western country to be bad but from their imperialism and world domination ideas i say that. to be faire i have the same opportunities as any other citizen which is not the case with mullahs
The reason most people enjoy living in the west, is simply because it is more wealthy and developed. That's all. But guess what, why is there such a development gap in the world? Indeed, historically it has lots to do with imperialism and colonialism, which set the countries of the south back, and contributed to the development of the west! And in western countries, foreigners living there do not enjoy full citizenship rights either (they can't vote, etc).
Lastly, Iran is developing *very rapidly* under the Islamic Republic. Instead of rejecting your nation's form of government, which was chosen by the people, under the pretexts that Iran is not yet as developed as the west, why not contribute something to Iran's development? You should lookup the UN's Human Development reports (UNHDP) on Iran, and see how rapidly we are catching up on OECD countries, thanks to the Islamic Republic's wise development policies, and despite 8 years of imposed war!
even though i have said that the so called western countries are imperialist but i would live in their world any day over the country that the mullahs have made out of iran
considering how any one theat has the wealth and opportunity is trying to get of the country i dontthink i am the odd one out.
As someone subjected to imperialism (iani agar zire solteh-ye anhá zendegi konid), you will not be alloted the same security and living standards as imperialist powers apply at home! On the contrary, they will mistreat subjugated societies! If you want to know what it would mean for Iran to live under imperialist rule, look no further than Iraq or Afghanistan! Or look at the cruel shah dictatorship, imposed by the CIA through the 1953 coup. That is living under USA/zionist imperialist rule!
Would you, a proud Iranian, want our people to live off the rests (bághi-mándehhá) which exploitative imperialists would be willing to throw at us, instead of fully enjoying our sovereignty and independence as under the current government system?
So you agree that French police has already killed French citizens! You cannot say they were foreigners because of their so-called "ethnic" origins. Citizenship isn't the same as "race".
And I hope you'd agree that it's just as bad and disgusting when French police murder French citizens of north-African or any other descent, for the matter!
When I see an inaccurate comment, I do respond. As for your hilarious allegations and ill-wishings, it seems that I quite hit a nerve by proving your allegations wrong. Time to open your eyes, and to see through the anti-Iran propaganda of BBC, VOA or exiled "opposition" grouplets. I am an ordinary, average Iranian, but I happen to oppose imperialism and to take pride in my religious and national heritage... and there are many millions like me.
You evaded the core issue as well, namely the universality of human rights: how would it be "worse" to illegally kill one's own citizens, than to murder innocents in other country's? Do you believe it would be "ok" to torture people from accross the world, as long as they are foreign nationals? In that case, you would *not* be in the moral position to criticize Iran on human rights.
Let's go on about the USA regime's treatment of its own citizens... Beside the issue of routine police violence and biased court decisions - specially against minorities, the USA regime is also responsible for the thousands of violent deaths that occur every year in America's massive urban getthos and penitentiary, because for several decades, it has been pursuing a policy of systematic criminalization of the poor.
The USA is a huge social concentration camp, and one day, the American people shall rise and overthrow the neo-fascist regime that is keeping them in shackles and drugging them with consumerist mass media culture. Poor people in the USA are either sent to be killed, mutilated or traumatized for life in Iraq / Afghanistan, or they are coerced into "racial" getthos and criminality.
So I am a "cleric" because I remind you some of the facts, which happen to be well known and amply documented? Wow, what "logic"...
Regarding France: I was not referring to the colonial war in Algeria, but to everyday police violence, where numbers of *French citizens* have been injured and killed so far. Update your information.
No, the French and US governments do not "only" kill or torture foreigners - just google "police violence", and learn. Iranian clerics are not "killing" anybody.
Besides, what difference would it make if a government illegally murdered its own peopkle or others? They still are people, no? Do you even know what human rights are about? Seeing how racist your comments sound, I do not think so... research that too, and learn! Before lecturing Islamic Iran on "human rights" or "democracy".
Ok, that's it. I kindly asked you not to use vulgarities here, which you once more failed to do, instead filling this comments section with the same repetitive, inane allegations pepped up with offensive language. You will therefore be excluded from posting any more of this!
My arguments show the democratic and legitimate nature of Iran's political order. That a few people - in this consumerist world - might be tempted by the pursuit of even greater material comfort, and might therefore emigrate to the west, is nothing special really. Evidently, all those who have the opportunity to leave are not doing this! And there are plenty other nations that have greater numbers living overseas than Iran does.
i dont have to say anything that just explains how stupid you are full stop
did i say khatami sid he was abolishing the mullahs regime?
no
i said people voted for him because they saw hime to be against the mullah khamenei and considering you came out of their ass you know how many time ahmadi nejad has criticised the khatami regime and every time khamenei defends that
The vote for president Khatami was first and foremost economic. Citizens sought alternance in the management of the country economy, after two moderate presidential governments. Then, even if we suppose that the Supreme Leader belongs to a given political party - which is wrong -, then how would people's choice to have someone from another party
in charge of the presidency, affect the Islamic Republic's overall legitimacy, which is the object of this discussion?
For instance, if French citizens decide socialist at the next parliamentary election with the purpose of sanctionning president Sarkozy, does that mean they oppose the 5th Republic? No, it doesn't.
Neither does it imply that people would "oppose" the Islamic Republic, if they voted for a candidate who is not of the same political color as the one(s) currently holding positions in some other institution.
But the institutional role of the Supreme Leader is different from a classical chief of the executive. Supreme Leader's executive role is to set directive guidelines for the government, rather than to manage it or to conduct the ensuing policies. Plus, the Assembly of Experts - elected by the people - chooses the Supreme Leader, who is responsible before the Assembly. So, citizens do have direct means of weighing on the choice of their Leader. They needn't use the presidential election for that.
Then, our Leader seyyed 'Ali Khámenei (h.a.), does not belong to a specific political party, and his institutional function obliges him to transcend party politics. In practice, he has to seek legitimacy among all politcal currents, to stay above the pure party political rivalry, except when a crisis requires his intervention as a neutral referee. Because no single party controls all the institutions, including the Assembly of Experts. Hence the balancing decisionmaking style of S.L. Khamenei.
In short, you should learn to be tolerant of the majority vote, which is required from a citizen in any democracy! Democracy cannot function if citizens rejected the whole system as soon as an election outcome turns out not to match their likings... Instead of making hasty, sweeping judgements that are biased, you might want to wait like everyone would in a democracy, then freely express your choice at the next elections, and then again bow to the verdict of the urns.
Supreme Leader seyyed Khámenei (h.a.), far from engaging into party politics, often stated that the reformist and the conservative camps are like the two wings of the nezám. How could your bird possiby fly without either of those wings? So dear are both movements to the Supreme Leader. Nor did the Rahbar spare any efforts to help solving the political crises which opposed reformist, moderate and conservative factions.
Those are your own interpretations, plus you put words in my mouth...
1. Iran is not governed by "the mullahs", but by a mix of professional politicians, civil servants, technocrats, intellectuals, and some religious scholars (not all the clerics though). I never used the word "mullahs", so you must not have paid attention to what I actually wrote.
2. The Iranian government does not need to "kill the people who are against it politically". Iran is a democracy, where citizens can express differing views through elections. Different political currents alternate in power, as a matter of fact.
3. Reformists, moderates and conservatives are political groups competing through elections within the religious-democratic institutions. They differ on policies, but all of them do recognize the legitimacy of the institutional system in which they act... What part of this are you finding so difficult to fathom?
What you are saying, is like suggesting that because Democrat Americans did not vote for Bush, it means they all want to see regime change in the USA, a new constitution, or to abolish the presidential system... You mixed these subjects up, and drew quick conclusions on that basis.
"Speaks English"? I regret, my point remains entirely valid. President Khatami's declarations or promises *never* entailed that he would end the Islamic Republic. He never suggested opposing this order. I challenged you to show otherwise, but obviously there's strictly nothing to support such an allegation.
Turnouts in Iran are greater than in the "stable" west, so your suggestion is proven to be false. Don't just repeat the same rant over and over, try to address this very fact for a second.
As said in 2005 over 60% of voiter turned out, they massively chose Dr Ahmadinejad, and that turnout is higher than in most western countries. What these figures tell us, is that the Islamic Republic enjoys widespread and firm legitimacy, equal to any other stable government.
No doubt most other Khatami voters would be offended by such comments. There was a huge economic vote for president Khatami, to begin with. Then, the politically motivated Khatami-vote, was a classical alternance vote in favor of specific reforms *within the framework of the Islamic Republic*, not a vote *against* it! Khatami absolutely never said he would "abolish" the I.R. if elected. Most reformists are very religious people, there are a handful of secularists, and certainly no islamophobes.
These figures are totally wrong: voter turnout at Iran's presidential elections of 1997 and 2001 was around 90%, so when Khatami got 21 million votes, there were definitely no 14 million non-voters! Where did you get that strange idea from?
As for the 2005 election, turnout was at over 60% - do you realize that this is both a large majority, and *superior* to the average voter turnout of general elections held in western states? This is clear proof of the Islamic Republic's strong legitimacy.
Mohammad Khatami was and is devoted to the Islamic Republic and its founding constitutional principles, as he repeatedly said in reply to radical secularist liberals connected to the refornist movement. So your point about Nategh-Nouri being the "only" candidate of the 1997 electcion who was in favor of the Islamic Republic, falls completely flat.
revolution my ass thiss fag khomeni is the same person that talked anbout free oil fgeedom of expression check how many ew spapers they shout down this year
he fooled youngsters of who over ninty percent regret the revolution
khatami a reformist won 21 million votes when he wa runing any smart person would know 90 percent of people voted for him hate youre mullah regime as does your dad khamenei another 14 million didnt vote which mean they are 100 percent against the mullahs
Where are you getting your figures on former participants to the Revolution from?
Your interpretation of the election results is not correct: first, Mr Khatami is fully committed to the Islamic Republic and never said otherwise, including during his election campaign. Secondly, in 2005, voter turnout stood at 60%, and Dr Ahmadinejad won by a very large margin. Third, if some citizens do not vote, it does not necessarily mean that they consider their political system as "illegitimate".
Since you provide your source to this story? There was no major student protest in Iran two weeks ago. So the case has probably nothing to do with the student movement anyway.
The likes of Ferdosi, Khayyám, Hafez, Molaná, Rudaki, Shams-Tabrizi or 'Attár, if alive today, would certainly support their country, their nation's sacred Revolution and its legitimate political order, against the nefarious propaganda and destabilization attempts by hostile powers such as the US or the zionist occupation/apartheid regimes, who openly talk and dream of "bombing" Iran, or of imposing another neo-colonial puppet on us, like they did after they overthrew Dr Mossadegh!
The part about clerics "killing students" appears to be pretty untrue indeed, since the only student to lose his life at a student protest over the last 10 years, was a Basij member... And, the involved police officer had to stand trial. You do not actually believe that the government - with all the media propaganda against Iran - could possibly "hide" great numbers of student deaths, or that international rights groups would not claim such a thing, do you?
Wrong! The Imam (r.a.) accepted to establish a popular-based armed corps (the IRGC/Basij), because the Revolution and mihan needed to be *defended* / *protected* against the multiple aggressors, that is almost all major regional and world powers, who launched war on Iran as early as september 1980!
Now when did Islamic Iran attack another country? Or where did Iranian leaders even mention "expansion" through offensive use of force? You are confusing the wise and well-guided Iranian leadership with the zionist and US regimes, as well as their allies, who are the ones using lies to justify their wars of aggression and to occupy other nations.
Ferdosi was a poet, ostad Mottahari a scholar of history (and of other disciplines)... a UNESCO-rewarded scholar, should I add. Also no, I am not Arab, but I certainly do not hate our Arab brothers either: racism and "ethnicism" are un-Iranian. You resort not only to insults, but also to false allegations, therefore consider yourself warned a second time. Don't call this "censorship" if you're blocked for losing your temper.
also you have replied to the point i made about real islam and how your type say real islam isnt practiced in iran
adding to that the point one of you made about khomein saying he would have iran destroyed for islam to take over which basically meand ww3 and imposing of the religion on the world just like arabs did to us.he also said he wanted every male over twelve to be soldier making an army of twenty million
I say real Islamic governance is practiced in Iran, not in the wahhabi sheykhdoms or by the deobandi Taleban. The latter did not establish actual Islamic governments, Iran did. That being said, do not expect infaillibility from any ordinary human. What part of this can't you grasp?
As for the Imam's statement, I fail to see how that would imply "world war 3". His point was that in effect, Iran would be nothing without Islam, because the latter forms the core of our common identity. And furthermore, Iranians themselves conducted an Islamic Revolution, and voted to have an Islamic Republic per referendum, so nobody "imposed" anything on them.
As for the Army of Twenty Million, this is a metaphorical expression, meant to symbolize the mobilization of the Iranian people within the Basij, which is a popular army and thus open to volunteers from all age groups.
its understandable for some one like you to say ferdosis work want practical as you would wan our language to be arabic
also if arab rulers imposed use of farsi why it have to be saved
considering how iranians made wine and how they hated arabs and theyre forceful religion i would take the view that they all dank even if they didnt enjoy it
And there you go with prejudice and personal accusations. This was not necessary now, was it. I never said I wished Iranians spoke Arabic. That would be a lie. As said, Arab rulers imposed the use of Farsi because people were finding it increasingly comfortable to communicate in Arabic. And I am not aware of Iranians hating the Arabs (racism is against ancient Iranian culture), not to mention that they freely embraced Islam and its regulations.
Yes exactly. Arab rulers imposed the use of Farsi. You should lookup these facts form objective sources, such as ostad Mottahari's works. As for the allegations about our Imams (a.s.), these are fallacious and insulting.
You say "real Islam" is what the Taliban practied, but how come the deobandi / wahhabis / takfiri-salafi ideologies have been denounced by scores of well guided ulema? Furthermore, if our respected scholars in Islamic Iran believed that girls should be barred from the public education system, then why did none of them *ever* make any statement, nor take any political or legal step in that direction?
Have you actually gotten hold of any evidence that student protesters are being "killed everyday" in prison? Not even international (read: western) human rights groups - whose info stems more from Iranian "opposition" than from on-the-ground observation -, have ever claimed such a thing.
And yes, since the Islamic Republic - like any other system -, is governed by faillible humans - not by any of the Fourteen ma'sumin (a.s.) -, it cannot be "perfect". However, it is exactly this political order that the mo'menin have to establish in order to advance Islamic aims. What you have to ask yourself is, what are the alternatives, can a system closer to Islamic principles be established by faillibles, or would a secular state be in the Iranian people's overall interest? I think not.
You are missing my point: despite the politics associated with the spread of Christianity, how many European or American citizens are calling for abandoning Christianity on the grounds that it would be "alien" to their culture or that it would have been imposed on their forefathers by some prince? Practically none (outside of microscopic far right-wing or esoterist groups)... So why should we Iranians be living in an unreal, romanticized past which has ceased to exist for over thousand years?
you dont give up do you, used islamic science to develope lol
what science did they use greeks came up with maths and the bits that iranians came up with was from scientists that were muslims but talkedabout drinking and never considering after life
egkhayam and ferdosi who says i saved our language from arabs
if we chose the fukin religion why would h have to save it
The Iranian Sufi mystics were Muslim, the "wine" they mention is metaphorical and not meant literally. Ferdosi's work is admirable, but on the practical level, local Arab princes governing Iran imposed the use of Farsi, whereas the Iranian population and elites were enthusiastically using the Arabic language!
So are you saying that just because the Greeks first conceptualized mathematics as a science, it did not progress at the hands of the very same Muslim scientists who saved the said knowledge from obliteration during Europe's dark Middle Ages? In that case,
I would urge you to research on the likes of Khwarazmi, Razi, Farabi, or ibn-Khaldun, al-Kindi, al-Jahez, the list is long indeed, and these scientists all made new discoveries. Islam widely contributed to human civilization through this.
One of the reasons the Safavis introduced a state religion was the rivalry with Ottomans, but this does not change the fact that majority of Iranians were Shia already, and had freely embraced Shi'ism, let's not forget that! Similarly, the Ottomans were pressuring their own Shia minorities to convert to Sunnism. Same kind of policies were conducted by European princes, yet today, no European in his right mind would call for abandoning Christianity or converting back to paganism!
This has nothing to do with why Iran initially embraced Islam: the Iranian state did not seek to convert people to Islam in order to avoid another empire from taking over, actually it is well established that the Sassanid sovereign rejected Islam and was subsequently defeated in battle. So, this episode is entirely different from the Safavids establishing Shi'a Islam as the state religion.
Now if Tony Blair had the required knowledge or intellectual honesty, he would be aware that Islamic societies entered modernity while preserving the role of religion. In Europe however, the Churche's anti-modernist mindset ultimately paved the way to secularism, materialism and atheism. Moslem scientist were busy preserving all the ancient Greek, Egyptian or Persian knowledge, while that had been banned in Europe already. Europe would not have experienced its Renaissance if it wasn't for Islam.
Thanks anyway for citing Tony Blair's comment, as I had not heard it before, and am going to research its exact content and context. But all things being equal, I can already say that this is mere islamophobia which the masonic former British pm and notorious liar is spreading in the service of empire building and economic-financial exploitation of nations.
subhanallah ta'ala, brother/sister sillas, you do not have to explain anything to this denying jahil, I am iranian but I hate iranians that are against Islam and I love my arab and elsewhere brothers and sisters that are muslims, does not matter to me if a brother/sister is iranian or arab.
assalam 'aleik to the pious muslims, (not to the hating kuffar), being iranian or american or arab is not what matters, even so that ayatullah khumeini (r.a) once stated that "if by the demolition of Iran the whole world would become muslims then I would beg of allah ta'ala to demolish iran"
Brother, first off, Islam was not imposed on us; only some revisionist "historians" have made this claim, and for essentially political reasons. The people of Iran embraced Islam progressively, and out of free will.
Secondly, this is not of great relevance nowadays anyway, because Islam is part of Iran's culture and social fabric, after many centuries of presence. It makes no sense to try and reverse this, just as it makes no sense to ask the Americans to convert back to the pagan religions of pre-christianity Europe.
brothers and sisters let us not reply to their ignorence opls.. this man was ruhollah .. if we respond to them we are lowering ourselves.. and we no who we are..we are the shia of the ahlyl bait.. thats greter than any ignorent word they can try to say
lol ur such an ignorent pig.. u are and never will have been worthy of the dirt that was under this mans shoes.. u just talk.. i m sure ur just trailor trash living in america and on the system.. lol just a garbage..
BTW, I am not anti-Iran at all. I embrace the people, philosophy and faith of the original Persians. Until Islam, the kingdom was most certainly the most advanced on earth.
Please do some additional research based on objective publications: Iran was also the most advanced country in the world after Islam. Actually science and philosophy florished after the arrival of Islam. Also, Iranians embraced Islam freely, over several centuries, and nowadays those who still follow the Zoroastrian faith are free to practice their religion too.
From Abu Ali Sina to Khwarazmi, moslem Iranians were among the greatest scientists and thinkers of their times.
And who brought Iran's litteracy rate from under 50% to 90% at record pace, despite 8 years of imposed war, western embargos and doubling of the population? Who has the highest rate of female university students? Who brought water and electricity to those formerly backward villages ruined by the shah's policies? That and much more was achieved by the Islamic Republic.
Of course women, like male homosexuals, are greeted by the Islamist regime with equal disdain, and any 'progress' achieved by either group is due to organized protest and resistance, rather than through some Mullah's compassionate understanding.
Exactly what "organized protests" are you referring to? The government wasn't "forced" to build schools or universities, to provide villages with water and electricity, it launched those development programs right after the Revolution, through Jihad Sazandegi and other organisations. Nor did the Islamic Republic ever question women's rights to study or to participate in social affairs, as the Imam's (r.a.) statements clearly show.
Iranian women were strong participants in the 1979 revolution, but fundamentalists, led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, seized control after the revolution. Once in power, the fundamentalists betrayed the work and humanity of women by implementing a crushing system of gender apartheid. Fundamentalists built their theocracy on the premise that women are physically, intellectually and morally inferior to men, which precludes equal participation in any area of social, or political activity.
You are not stating any example of how "organized protests" (after 1979) "forced" the government to develope the country. So your initial point must be considered as moot moot.
may devil fuck him hard in the ass
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tigersforchrist 4 months ago
mashallah..long live imam khomieni's(RA) revolution!!
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111256able 1 year ago 3
اللهم صلي على محمد وال محمد وعجل فرجهم ولعن عدوهم ياالله ياالله ياالله
313085 1 year ago 2
DORUD BAR EMAM KHOMEINI
MOHAMMADMILANI 2 years ago 5
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Marg Bar Dictator mother fucking islam republick
khomeini ba ahmadinejad koskechan
ghoobe ke mord pedarsag mother fucking islam i ffind a solution to the distroy the islam republick
sexyarmino 2 years ago
mark bar khudie shuma wa khanwadyei mukhtaram i shuma
ya ali
parkourgeneration007 2 years ago
Keep dreaming,sexyyarmino,Islam is bound to shine in the middle east.
thuderbay 2 years ago 3
@sexyarmino
You have lost you brain and your soul !
Please go and seek the path to Allah !
he will throw all of the blind hate out of your heart !
qezelbaash 2 years ago 3
افتقد العالم هذا العالم
titolemechant 2 years ago 2
Allah Iran Islam Cumhuriyet fitne'den fesatlardan korusun ve Imamin mekani cennet olsun
amphea 3 years ago 3
اللهم صلي وسلم على محمد وآل محمد الطيبين الطاهرين.
abiis1 3 years ago 2
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Khumaini belongs to those who fled the battle while they had promised Imam Hassan that they will stay along. Now they regret what they did and try to mourn by beating the fuck out of themselves. but little they know that they are destined to fire of jahannum for their treason to Islam.
sarkar00 3 years ago
"Treason" to Islam? The Islamic Republic is the only authentically islamic political system in today's world. It has staid true to its principled islamic stance, refusing to bow to those occupation powers whose policies consist in subduing Muslim nations or peoples.
sillas09 3 years ago 2
yes okay, although corrupted and totten inside
sarkar00 3 years ago
Authorities strive to maintain Islamic orientation in the management of society, economy, culture and politics. No system is perfect, and corruption exists in every society, but the important point is that those in charge are not yielding to such drifts but working on solving such issues wherever they arise.
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@sillas09
من فکر نمیکنم آیتالله خمینی میخواست دروغ بگه که گفت آب و برق رو مجانی میکنیم. شعورش نمیرسید که داره چی چی میگه.
SheikFazlollahBarDar 11 months ago
slovakmath: Whatever you like to believe in or not, please don't insult the beliefs of others nor the idea of God, since provocations of this kind don't even serve your own cause, considering how you seek to bring your views accross.
sillas09 3 years ago
No , YOU ARE WRONG
Allah is not the same god in the other religions, allah was an idle inside kaabe in saudi arabia
Yaskachi 3 years ago
Yaskachi: No, it is you who are wrong. The Holy Qur'ans description of Allah s.w.t. is purely and thorougly monotheistic. Allah s.w.t. is the Creator, is Absolute, and One. This has nothing to do with paganist idolatry. Give ethymologic pedantism of pseudo-scientific nature a break, and turn towards a recognized academic book for a change!
sillas09 3 years ago
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Down with terrorist islamic regime in iran. Down with khamenei, Down with rafsanjani, Down with monkey ahmadinejad. Piss & Crap upon Khomeyni & his soul .
Yaskachi 3 years ago
Yaskachi, I would rather say: down with the imperialist, oppressive, tyrannical materialist powers to be, which threaten Iran and Islam in order to advance their destructive, anti-human designs.
sillas09 3 years ago
my comment is directed towards all gods especially the xtian, jewish and muslim definition of god, but not limited to just those three. quit believing in fairy tales and take more calculus and physics
slovakmath 3 years ago
wow. way to show how smart you are.
ameshkin69 3 years ago 3
your momma
slovakmath 3 years ago
Dhuuh h duuuh hdhuuhjh my name is slovakmath and im a retard.
ameshkin69 3 years ago
ok you are hundred percent right and mullahs have the ideal regime
GO BACK TO THE MULLAHS REGIME
siavash89 3 years ago
mullahs elections is like going to a fruit store where all the fruit they have is bananas of different sizes
instead of apple and ....
but i give up this is my last post.
you know in fact i think recently there was pol and mullahs state is the ideal state to live in which is why you are living in it.
good like to you mate
with people like you iran as a country needs to be told the same.darker future is approching that country
siavash89 3 years ago
Well, you are of course entitled to your opinion. I provided a few stats that you might want to look up, because the picture is not as bleak as you seem to believe. But then, this will only make for a good surprise as you witness how Iran will progress in the future.
sillas09 3 years ago
I thought the monkey will finally shut up, this was your last post right?
Alijawaad 3 years ago
you know you just make me laugh no
anger doesnt come about
you talk out of your ass and talke it continuely and politely
have you headr of ill rub your back before fuck your ass
thsi is what you do
which is why im certain your mullah born
you talk absalute bollocks but with big words
65 percent turn out
lol....and inflation is about 10 percent too mullahs say. that showed how credable your arguments are. also said every party had representatives.
siavash89 3 years ago
On presstv dot ir, search for "Albright Iran election", then you'll find a report about how Madeleine Albright praised the high voter turnout at the recent Majles election. There are also other reports on the same site, indicating that the definitive voter turnout count stood at over 60%.
sillas09 3 years ago
My points about HDI evolution aren't invalidated by the inflation issue. And those HDI figures and general economic indicators I cited before, weren't from the Iranian government sources, but from UNHDP, WB and IMF.
sillas09 3 years ago
siavash89 3 years ago
Your information about the evolution of Iran's economic / social indicators appears surprisingly incomplete... fact remains, under the shah, oil prices also "went ballistic", namely after the first oil crisis in 1973, but Iran's HDI, from 1973 to 1978 *stagnated* (I am not making this up, see UNHDP figures), while today, the HDI is *steadily rising*, meaning we are avoiding the Dutch Disease much better than before. I've been talking HDI, not GDP - did you read my postings?
sillas09 3 years ago
Secondly, look up the WB and IMF stats about the percentage of oil incomes in Iran's budget (not hard currency incomes): it is under 50% now, comparable to Russia, while it was over 80% before the Revolution!
Thirdly, as said, Iran's industrial non-oil sector has been growing *faster* than the oil incomes, *despite* skyrocketting oil prices.
Fourthly, we are exporting no less than 16 billion USD of non-oil commodities now, while under the shah these exports were close to 0.
sillas09 3 years ago
Critics of the Revolution crack me up, in the sense that they immediately think all those who support the legitimacy of Iran's political order would be "paid" by the government, forgetting that the Islamic Republic was installed by the people through referendum, while voter turnouts at elections are above 65%. No Sir, I have no relatives in any government, I am an ordinary citizen who managed to see through the thick smokescreen of anti-Iran propaganda. You should lookup those stats too!
sillas09 3 years ago
What do you mean "I'm kill for them"? Actually I am a very peaceful person and have no intention whatsoever to apply violence. However I noticed that exile Iranians who support "opposition" grouplets often tend to be very aggressive as well as threatening, specially when one manages to debunk their allegations! Just look at how violent and rude the language and actions of "opposition" grouplets are.
sillas09 3 years ago
idiot
gdp shows countries wealth and hdi shows how well its spent on people
look at the ranking for the figures youll see
siavash89 3 years ago
As said, I am well aware of the definitions. You should, however, look at Iran's HDI-growth after the Revolution! And compare growth of GDP with increase of HDI over time! Iran is by far not the only country that ranks better in GDP than HDI... But the difference between HDI- and GDP-ranking was greater before the Revolution, and more importantly, Iran's HDI constantly increased after the Revolution, while it was stagnating from 1973! So if this is not development, please explain what is.
sillas09 3 years ago
i fucking give up
thats how you fucked up the country
constant shit
ypu just make me laugh
mullahs fight a war with israel and spent little money
lol
wake the fuke up
siavash89 3 years ago
So what are you suggesting, that we let them bomb us? At least the current government is not importing everything, and from the same people that want to prevent us from developing at that (such as the USA regime); it is promoting self-reliance rather than dependence on outside sources! The shah used to buy the most expensive weapons systems of the world at over-price, while the Islamic Resistance in the Lebanon can beat the US-zionist war machine with light arms made in Iran!
sillas09 3 years ago
خائن خودتى اى پست فطرت وطن فروش هندى زاده.اى جيره خوار انگلستان و نوكر پابوس آمريكا. اى قاتل مليونها ايرانى و ويران كننده ايران عزيز.بزودى قبر متعفن تو آبريزگاه عمومى خواهد شد.
iraniabadveazad 3 years ago
Emám (r.a.) key bá Emriká yá Engelis hamkári kardand? Rejime sháh bud keh kámelan vábasteh mishod beh ghodratháye gharbi. Az zamáne piruziye Engheláb, sheytáne bozorg sa'i dárad nezáme montakhebe mardomrá "ta'ghir" dahad. Doshmaniye rejime Ámriká bá Enghelábe Eslámi beh in kháter ast, keh Iráne Eslámi beh anhá 'ejázeh nemidahad systeme siási-eghtesádiashánrá bar keshvare má tahmil konand.
sillas09 3 years ago
our peoples problems are that tey are paranoide,intrusive, still in the tenth century and gloy days, and this regime is the worst thing that uses some of the weakneses to keep on top the day peoples views change is the day youre type will sticks up youre ass.
past is past fuckig move on
siavash89 3 years ago
There's no reason to be complexed by our history, nor to eternally live in some nostalgic, romanticized past. However, this does not mean we should brush aside history, that we should not be proud of our people's past achievements, or that inversely we should not learn from past mistakes (such as bending over to the west). We must also realize that Islam is part of our identity, and that the Iranian people strive for an Islamic system, which is perfectly apt to face the challenges of modernity.
sillas09 3 years ago
secondl in fucked regime if you dontt do it their way then thats it you fuced again.
im not a woman but telling a woman to cover up so i dont look at you shows how premitive youre regime and its religion is
also show me one successful country that runs on religion
siavash89 3 years ago
Everywhere in the world, there are dress codes, and other laws pertaining to public morality. Iran is Islamic, the Iranian people chose to have an Islamic system, and they massively participate in elections, so those who still aren't happy should slowly begin to live with it. There is nothing wrong with translating our traditional Islamic and Iranian (námus) concepts of modesty into law, I largely prefer this to materialist consumerist exploitation of women as is the prevailing case in the west.
sillas09 3 years ago
If anything, this is an honor, a sign of social advancement and prevalence of spirituality over materialism, none of which qualify as "primitive".
There are plenty of countries where religion plays an important role in society or even politics, one of them being the USA... however the so-called "Christian right" is abusing the very principles of Christianity.
sillas09 3 years ago
first of all in states you have to work for what you get which means every one is at the bottom and they can clim up.
in you regime if you know any them youre up not because you deserve to be there, so what youre saying about being wealthy therefore every oen emigrateds bullshit
siavash89 3 years ago
That is a myth of the capitalist system, to make everyone believe one "can" succeed if one "works hard", "educates oneself",... But facts speak otherwise, and material inequality is an organic part of the liberal capitalist social order, and therefore capitalism can only sell people a dream, nothing more. This suffice to fool people even if they know in advance that merely a minority will succeed. Worse, the USA system economically discriminates minorities. And, it keeps criminalizing the poor.
sillas09 3 years ago
its unfortunate that you think the way you do
some of the thinks, unlike youre mullah regime that says if you say anything against me at all then your wrong full stop, i agree, they developed in eighteenth century by our resources but im not dum enough to sa they kill peole the same way as mullahs do.
siavash89 3 years ago
It stems from observation of global events, that the USA and the zionist regime are among the worst human rights offenders in the world. The zionist regime is an apartheid state, the USA torture, kill and destroy nations in complete impunity. They merely manage to control their societies to such a point that fooling their own citizens and world opinion through the global media they control, becomes easy.
sillas09 3 years ago
because they are spending our peoples wealth and oil on fucking hezbollah to save their ass
on useless missiles they buy from russins that make idiots like you think ohhh they are so advanced technologically and developed
why do russians say they are happy with mullahs ha
they ve become our friends now who seprated the northen states from iran
mate they cant produce petrol
what the fuck ....they developed
siavash89 3 years ago
To begin with, the zionist regime itself estimates Iranian financial assistance to Hezbollah numbers a few hundred million USD a year... This is *nothing*, compared to Iran's overall budget. Plus, this is a totally necessary foreign policy expenditure which happens to be in Iran's national interest, because it provides a security guarantee against the zionist reigme. The shah spent much more on doing the USA's bidding in places such as Oman or Pakistan, as he sent his army to quell rebels there.
sillas09 3 years ago
The amount spent by Iran on domestic development projects is many thousands of times superior to the assistance that Hezbollah and other allies might benefit from. That being said, every government has its foreign and security policy budget, Iran is no different.
sillas09 3 years ago
The problem with fuel is record consumption, due to governmental subsidies, which make it affordable for everyone to own and operate a car. But new refineries are being built anyway, and soon Iran will export fuel, just as it recently became a wheat exporter for the first time in its modern history. Industrial growth is superior to growth of oil income, and Iran's HDI rose from roughly 0.57 in 1975 to 0.76 today, ranking it 16th among developing nations: this is the definition of development!
sillas09 3 years ago
Additionally keep in mind that these excellent results in terms of development were achieved by the Islamic Republic *despite* 8 years of Imposed War that inflicted no less than 300 billion $ of damage on the Iranian economy, and *despite* doubling of the population... It is nothing short of a feat indeed.
sillas09 3 years ago
Your are mistaken on Iran's defence capabilities! Iran isn't purchasing much from Russia, it is mainly developing an autonomous defence industry, which is one of the great achievements of the Revolution. The shah regime, which spend 30% of the budget on weapons purchases from the USA, and fully depended on the latter for spare parts. Iran is hugely more advanced today than it was the Revolution in terms of defence technology.
sillas09 3 years ago
you are talking absalute bollocks on developmet
i'm an economist mate
gdp figures rank iran in top 30 countries irans hdi is in ninties
only arab countries are that bad
look up gdp ppp adjusted and hdi
and ill explain what the diffence is later
why is that
siavash89 3 years ago
I'm aware of the difference, the point is, that Iran's HDI experienced an impressive growth since the Islamic Revolution. That's a fact attested by the UNHDP figures, so if you did not do that already, I would warmly suggest to look them up.
sillas09 3 years ago
first of all imperial powers impose themeselves on countries that allow them you dont have to be a dictatorship calling yourself a democracy to stand up to them
japan did exactly what mullahs and khomeni wanted to do in the ww2 and the result was what we know of
since then once they started to grow economiclly does any country even think about trying to go around
you know the answer
siavash89 3 years ago
Firstly´, Iran's a democracy, since each institution is either directly or indirectly elected by the people. Secondly, the Japan of World War 2 was itself an imperialist power, the Islamic Republic is not. Furthermore, imperialism can be defeated, this was demonstrated on various occasions and in different places, namely Iran since 1979, but also Vietnam, etc. National sovereignty has no price, and today Iran is one of the most politically independent countries in the world.
sillas09 3 years ago
look mate you are either just supid or blind
look at the way every one is trying to get of iran to live in the so called imperialist world
have you been to iran
man i am tired of talking and hear shit
there is no perfect stte but the one i live in is as good as it comes and mullahs is one of the worst and i have been to a faire share of countries
siavash89 3 years ago
Because they are developed, with the resources they stole from Africa, Asia and central/south America. Other than that, one does suffer in the secular-liberal west too. Exacerbated consumerism and materialism, which dominate here, can and do drive many people crazy. There is racism, too. And if you happen to be at the lower scales of the socio-economic ladder, then life in the west is hell too!
sillas09 3 years ago
Why would we expect Iran to be as developed? From the 18th century onwards, we, just like China and India, started to fall behind the west. But today we are awakening, rising again. We are one out of just 15 to launch satellites into space, etc. Let us not compromise our nation's destiny.
sillas09 3 years ago
also im you yourself live in one of these countries which menas you cant give me any bollocks
between bad and worst being the mullahs i choose bad. i have to emphasis i hav not seen anything towards me that shows the western country to be bad but from their imperialism and world domination ideas i say that. to be faire i have the same opportunities as any other citizen which is not the case with mullahs
siavash89 3 years ago
The reason most people enjoy living in the west, is simply because it is more wealthy and developed. That's all. But guess what, why is there such a development gap in the world? Indeed, historically it has lots to do with imperialism and colonialism, which set the countries of the south back, and contributed to the development of the west! And in western countries, foreigners living there do not enjoy full citizenship rights either (they can't vote, etc).
sillas09 3 years ago
Lastly, Iran is developing *very rapidly* under the Islamic Republic. Instead of rejecting your nation's form of government, which was chosen by the people, under the pretexts that Iran is not yet as developed as the west, why not contribute something to Iran's development? You should lookup the UN's Human Development reports (UNHDP) on Iran, and see how rapidly we are catching up on OECD countries, thanks to the Islamic Republic's wise development policies, and despite 8 years of imposed war!
sillas09 3 years ago
even though i have said that the so called western countries are imperialist but i would live in their world any day over the country that the mullahs have made out of iran
considering how any one theat has the wealth and opportunity is trying to get of the country i dontthink i am the odd one out.
siavash89 3 years ago
As someone subjected to imperialism (iani agar zire solteh-ye anhá zendegi konid), you will not be alloted the same security and living standards as imperialist powers apply at home! On the contrary, they will mistreat subjugated societies! If you want to know what it would mean for Iran to live under imperialist rule, look no further than Iraq or Afghanistan! Or look at the cruel shah dictatorship, imposed by the CIA through the 1953 coup. That is living under USA/zionist imperialist rule!
sillas09 3 years ago
Would you, a proud Iranian, want our people to live off the rests (bághi-mándehhá) which exploitative imperialists would be willing to throw at us, instead of fully enjoying our sovereignty and independence as under the current government system?
sillas09 3 years ago
idiot you are you have not seen the point i made about the two young algerian "french" boys that were killed by the pole on their motor bike
siavash89 3 years ago
So you agree that French police has already killed French citizens! You cannot say they were foreigners because of their so-called "ethnic" origins. Citizenship isn't the same as "race".
And I hope you'd agree that it's just as bad and disgusting when French police murder French citizens of north-African or any other descent, for the matter!
sillas09 3 years ago
in regards to americans
well you seem t be dum enough to want to say something against any comment thatsmade and id true
now days britain sends people to americans calling it "extradite" to americans , without any evidence for them to do the dirty work
i hope they take you as one
in most cases they havent done anything
but from what you have said in the past few comments you have probubly been involved in few deaths yourself
i bet you know well who z kazemi is
may to well
siavash89 3 years ago
When I see an inaccurate comment, I do respond. As for your hilarious allegations and ill-wishings, it seems that I quite hit a nerve by proving your allegations wrong. Time to open your eyes, and to see through the anti-Iran propaganda of BBC, VOA or exiled "opposition" grouplets. I am an ordinary, average Iranian, but I happen to oppose imperialism and to take pride in my religious and national heritage... and there are many millions like me.
sillas09 3 years ago
You evaded the core issue as well, namely the universality of human rights: how would it be "worse" to illegally kill one's own citizens, than to murder innocents in other country's? Do you believe it would be "ok" to torture people from accross the world, as long as they are foreign nationals? In that case, you would *not* be in the moral position to criticize Iran on human rights.
sillas09 3 years ago
Let's go on about the USA regime's treatment of its own citizens... Beside the issue of routine police violence and biased court decisions - specially against minorities, the USA regime is also responsible for the thousands of violent deaths that occur every year in America's massive urban getthos and penitentiary, because for several decades, it has been pursuing a policy of systematic criminalization of the poor.
sillas09 3 years ago
The USA is a huge social concentration camp, and one day, the American people shall rise and overthrow the neo-fascist regime that is keeping them in shackles and drugging them with consumerist mass media culture. Poor people in the USA are either sent to be killed, mutilated or traumatized for life in Iraq / Afghanistan, or they are coerced into "racial" getthos and criminality.
sillas09 3 years ago
it seems like you are just stupid periode
clearly youre a mullah
french police killsalegerians in numbers
in sixties they found about five hundred muslim kids all dead
so again you talk out of your ass
siavash89 3 years ago
So I am a "cleric" because I remind you some of the facts, which happen to be well known and amply documented? Wow, what "logic"...
Regarding France: I was not referring to the colonial war in Algeria, but to everyday police violence, where numbers of *French citizens* have been injured and killed so far. Update your information.
sillas09 3 years ago
fuck your mum
comparing the mullahs wih the french and he americans....they only kill foreigners in france and states
in iran mullahs kill iranians and look after the arabs
siavash89 3 years ago
No, the French and US governments do not "only" kill or torture foreigners - just google "police violence", and learn. Iranian clerics are not "killing" anybody.
sillas09 3 years ago
Besides, what difference would it make if a government illegally murdered its own peopkle or others? They still are people, no? Do you even know what human rights are about? Seeing how racist your comments sound, I do not think so... research that too, and learn! Before lecturing Islamic Iran on "human rights" or "democracy".
sillas09 3 years ago
Obviously, you have nothing else to resort to, other than insulting me. As long as you cannot communicate in an educated manner, don't comment here.
sillas09 3 years ago
by the way its funny how a fag like you has ran out the country and now supports the mullahs
fuck off back and suck their coks there
o man your type get me annoyed
you look people in the eye and bullshit them and try ass fuck them
absalute idiot
siavash89 3 years ago
Ok, that's it. I kindly asked you not to use vulgarities here, which you once more failed to do, instead filling this comments section with the same repetitive, inane allegations pepped up with offensive language. You will therefore be excluded from posting any more of this!
sillas09 3 years ago
also people vote as i did because my parents told youll have to if you want a job or you want to go uni
they look at this stuff and that will go aginst you
so dont be fuck wit and tell me about democracy when every one knows youre talkin bollocks
youre arguments show exactly why every one that has the opportunity is getting out of the country
siavash89 3 years ago
Voters do not enjoy any privileges over non-voters at university exams. There is no such regulation nor practice.
sillas09 3 years ago
My arguments show the democratic and legitimate nature of Iran's political order. That a few people - in this consumerist world - might be tempted by the pursuit of even greater material comfort, and might therefore emigrate to the west, is nothing special really. Evidently, all those who have the opportunity to leave are not doing this! And there are plenty other nations that have greater numbers living overseas than Iran does.
sillas09 3 years ago
you re just too funny
irans not governed by mullahs lol
i dont have to say anything that just explains how stupid you are full stop
did i say khatami sid he was abolishing the mullahs regime?
no
i said people voted for him because they saw hime to be against the mullah khamenei and considering you came out of their ass you know how many time ahmadi nejad has criticised the khatami regime and every time khamenei defends that
siavash89 3 years ago
The vote for president Khatami was first and foremost economic. Citizens sought alternance in the management of the country economy, after two moderate presidential governments. Then, even if we suppose that the Supreme Leader belongs to a given political party - which is wrong -, then how would people's choice to have someone from another party
in charge of the presidency, affect the Islamic Republic's overall legitimacy, which is the object of this discussion?
sillas09 3 years ago
For instance, if French citizens decide socialist at the next parliamentary election with the purpose of sanctionning president Sarkozy, does that mean they oppose the 5th Republic? No, it doesn't.
Neither does it imply that people would "oppose" the Islamic Republic, if they voted for a candidate who is not of the same political color as the one(s) currently holding positions in some other institution.
sillas09 3 years ago
But the institutional role of the Supreme Leader is different from a classical chief of the executive. Supreme Leader's executive role is to set directive guidelines for the government, rather than to manage it or to conduct the ensuing policies. Plus, the Assembly of Experts - elected by the people - chooses the Supreme Leader, who is responsible before the Assembly. So, citizens do have direct means of weighing on the choice of their Leader. They needn't use the presidential election for that.
sillas09 3 years ago
Then, our Leader seyyed 'Ali Khámenei (h.a.), does not belong to a specific political party, and his institutional function obliges him to transcend party politics. In practice, he has to seek legitimacy among all politcal currents, to stay above the pure party political rivalry, except when a crisis requires his intervention as a neutral referee. Because no single party controls all the institutions, including the Assembly of Experts. Hence the balancing decisionmaking style of S.L. Khamenei.
sillas09 3 years ago
In short, you should learn to be tolerant of the majority vote, which is required from a citizen in any democracy! Democracy cannot function if citizens rejected the whole system as soon as an election outcome turns out not to match their likings... Instead of making hasty, sweeping judgements that are biased, you might want to wait like everyone would in a democracy, then freely express your choice at the next elections, and then again bow to the verdict of the urns.
sillas09 3 years ago
Supreme Leader seyyed Khámenei (h.a.), far from engaging into party politics, often stated that the reformist and the conservative camps are like the two wings of the nezám. How could your bird possiby fly without either of those wings? So dear are both movements to the Supreme Leader. Nor did the Rahbar spare any efforts to help solving the political crises which opposed reformist, moderate and conservative factions.
sillas09 3 years ago
youre type basically show what mullahs are about
first you say mullahs dont kill people that are against them politicaly
then khatami supporters are khamenei supporters
youre one of them which means youl keep denying this but if you say anything against them then they stick something to you and done
siavash89 4 years ago
Those are your own interpretations, plus you put words in my mouth...
1. Iran is not governed by "the mullahs", but by a mix of professional politicians, civil servants, technocrats, intellectuals, and some religious scholars (not all the clerics though). I never used the word "mullahs", so you must not have paid attention to what I actually wrote.
sillas09 3 years ago
2. The Iranian government does not need to "kill the people who are against it politically". Iran is a democracy, where citizens can express differing views through elections. Different political currents alternate in power, as a matter of fact.
sillas09 3 years ago
3. Reformists, moderates and conservatives are political groups competing through elections within the religious-democratic institutions. They differ on policies, but all of them do recognize the legitimacy of the institutional system in which they act... What part of this are you finding so difficult to fathom?
sillas09 3 years ago
What you are saying, is like suggesting that because Democrat Americans did not vote for Bush, it means they all want to see regime change in the USA, a new constitution, or to abolish the presidential system... You mixed these subjects up, and drew quick conclusions on that basis.
sillas09 3 years ago
you are not on this planet
his apeal wa that he speaks english and his going to bring "freedom" which he didnt do abviously
believe me what youre saying is more crap
also 14 million didnt vote when khamenei gave fatwa that every one should vote which means that shit on his head
siavash89 4 years ago
"Speaks English"? I regret, my point remains entirely valid. President Khatami's declarations or promises *never* entailed that he would end the Islamic Republic. He never suggested opposing this order. I challenged you to show otherwise, but obviously there's strictly nothing to support such an allegation.
Turnouts in Iran are greater than in the "stable" west, so your suggestion is proven to be false. Don't just repeat the same rant over and over, try to address this very fact for a second.
sillas09 3 years ago
5/6 that wa meant to be
dont even try to say khatami supporters are followers of the regimes because im agains te islam and mulahs and i voted for him
siavash89 4 years ago
As said in 2005 over 60% of voiter turned out, they massively chose Dr Ahmadinejad, and that turnout is higher than in most western countries. What these figures tell us, is that the Islamic Republic enjoys widespread and firm legitimacy, equal to any other stable government.
sillas09 4 years ago
No doubt most other Khatami voters would be offended by such comments. There was a huge economic vote for president Khatami, to begin with. Then, the politically motivated Khatami-vote, was a classical alternance vote in favor of specific reforms *within the framework of the Islamic Republic*, not a vote *against* it! Khatami absolutely never said he would "abolish" the I.R. if elected. Most reformists are very religious people, there are a handful of secularists, and certainly no islamophobes.
sillas09 4 years ago
so 21 million votes for reformist khatami
14 millon didnt vote who basically shit on khamenei as he said every one should vote
only 7 million oted for noori who is propre mullah
so that means over fifty odd million people are against the mullah regime(5/5) against youre boyfriends
you will deny this again be cause you know its true
so keep living in youre buble but the day will come and i think more mullahs will have sticks up their ass than tree branches in amazon
siavash89 4 years ago
These figures are totally wrong: voter turnout at Iran's presidential elections of 1997 and 2001 was around 90%, so when Khatami got 21 million votes, there were definitely no 14 million non-voters! Where did you get that strange idea from?
As for the 2005 election, turnout was at over 60% - do you realize that this is both a large majority, and *superior* to the average voter turnout of general elections held in western states? This is clear proof of the Islamic Republic's strong legitimacy.
sillas09 4 years ago
Mohammad Khatami was and is devoted to the Islamic Republic and its founding constitutional principles, as he repeatedly said in reply to radical secularist liberals connected to the refornist movement. So your point about Nategh-Nouri being the "only" candidate of the 1997 electcion who was in favor of the Islamic Republic, falls completely flat.
sillas09 4 years ago
revolution my ass thiss fag khomeni is the same person that talked anbout free oil fgeedom of expression check how many ew spapers they shout down this year
he fooled youngsters of who over ninty percent regret the revolution
khatami a reformist won 21 million votes when he wa runing any smart person would know 90 percent of people voted for him hate youre mullah regime as does your dad khamenei another 14 million didnt vote which mean they are 100 percent against the mullahs
siavash89 4 years ago
Where are you getting your figures on former participants to the Revolution from?
Your interpretation of the election results is not correct: first, Mr Khatami is fully committed to the Islamic Republic and never said otherwise, including during his election campaign. Secondly, in 2005, voter turnout stood at 60%, and Dr Ahmadinejad won by a very large margin. Third, if some citizens do not vote, it does not necessarily mean that they consider their political system as "illegitimate".
sillas09 3 years ago
you know youre either just a complete idiot who cuts and pastethings from the internet or youre just jmped out the mullahs ass
id go with the second
fucki idot just two weeks ago they killed a kurd student and said he commited suicide
since you know them well im sure they give you the details
siavash89 4 years ago
Since you provide your source to this story? There was no major student protest in Iran two weeks ago. So the case has probably nothing to do with the student movement anyway.
sillas09 4 years ago
youre bollocks has really gat me worked up now
ostad motahari lol
fuck that power wanting fag i hope hey all kill each other untill they are off the planet
why the fuk you dick he dick heads come out of iran if you like them so fukinmuch go bak and get fukd by the mullah
motahari your joker
ferdosi khayam even hafez
against a mullah like motahari i know youre an asalute arab
do u fuk ur sister too because thats what they do
siavash89 4 years ago
The likes of Ferdosi, Khayyám, Hafez, Molaná, Rudaki, Shams-Tabrizi or 'Attár, if alive today, would certainly support their country, their nation's sacred Revolution and its legitimate political order, against the nefarious propaganda and destabilization attempts by hostile powers such as the US or the zionist occupation/apartheid regimes, who openly talk and dream of "bombing" Iran, or of imposing another neo-colonial puppet on us, like they did after they overthrew Dr Mossadegh!
sillas09 4 years ago
i regards to your hosein
truth hurts mate
thats life
if you think mullahs arent killing political students youre a real fukin hezbi n basiji that eats their dick
they dont come out and brodcast it so how can i prove it you idiot ..thets like sayin prove we have heart in our body
unless i go in i cant prove it
siavash89 4 years ago
The part about clerics "killing students" appears to be pretty untrue indeed, since the only student to lose his life at a student protest over the last 10 years, was a Basij member... And, the involved police officer had to stand trial. You do not actually believe that the government - with all the media propaganda against Iran - could possibly "hide" great numbers of student deaths, or that international rights groups would not claim such a thing, do you?
sillas09 4 years ago
fuck off about he didnt mean it literally
the fuckin fag was tryin take over the world with youre fucked religion
lol youre funny
good thing over in the west they hate youre fukin religion and they arent stupid enough to believe youre shit
siavash89 4 years ago
Wrong! The Imam (r.a.) accepted to establish a popular-based armed corps (the IRGC/Basij), because the Revolution and mihan needed to be *defended* / *protected* against the multiple aggressors, that is almost all major regional and world powers, who launched war on Iran as early as september 1980!
sillas09 4 years ago
Now when did Islamic Iran attack another country? Or where did Iranian leaders even mention "expansion" through offensive use of force? You are confusing the wise and well-guided Iranian leadership with the zionist and US regimes, as well as their allies, who are the ones using lies to justify their wars of aggression and to occupy other nations.
sillas09 4 years ago
get the fuk ut man
stupid idiot
arabs exchanged their daughter for fuck
married and still marry over twenty women
you expect animals like that to impose use of farsi
fuck motahari a mullah a real iranian ferdosi says otherwise. youre abviously an arab which is why you talk bollocks
siavash89 4 years ago
Ferdosi was a poet, ostad Mottahari a scholar of history (and of other disciplines)... a UNESCO-rewarded scholar, should I add. Also no, I am not Arab, but I certainly do not hate our Arab brothers either: racism and "ethnicism" are un-Iranian. You resort not only to insults, but also to false allegations, therefore consider yourself warned a second time. Don't call this "censorship" if you're blocked for losing your temper.
sillas09 4 years ago
also you have replied to the point i made about real islam and how your type say real islam isnt practiced in iran
adding to that the point one of you made about khomein saying he would have iran destroyed for islam to take over which basically meand ww3 and imposing of the religion on the world just like arabs did to us.he also said he wanted every male over twelve to be soldier making an army of twenty million
siavash89 4 years ago
I say real Islamic governance is practiced in Iran, not in the wahhabi sheykhdoms or by the deobandi Taleban. The latter did not establish actual Islamic governments, Iran did. That being said, do not expect infaillibility from any ordinary human. What part of this can't you grasp?
sillas09 4 years ago
As for the Imam's statement, I fail to see how that would imply "world war 3". His point was that in effect, Iran would be nothing without Islam, because the latter forms the core of our common identity. And furthermore, Iranians themselves conducted an Islamic Revolution, and voted to have an Islamic Republic per referendum, so nobody "imposed" anything on them.
sillas09 4 years ago
As for the Army of Twenty Million, this is a metaphorical expression, meant to symbolize the mobilization of the Iranian people within the Basij, which is a popular army and thus open to volunteers from all age groups.
sillas09 4 years ago
its understandable for some one like you to say ferdosis work want practical as you would wan our language to be arabic
also if arab rulers imposed use of farsi why it have to be saved
considering how iranians made wine and how they hated arabs and theyre forceful religion i would take the view that they all dank even if they didnt enjoy it
siavash89 4 years ago
And there you go with prejudice and personal accusations. This was not necessary now, was it. I never said I wished Iranians spoke Arabic. That would be a lie. As said, Arab rulers imposed the use of Farsi because people were finding it increasingly comfortable to communicate in Arabic. And I am not aware of Iranians hating the Arabs (racism is against ancient Iranian culture), not to mention that they freely embraced Islam and its regulations.
sillas09 4 years ago
arab ruleres foced use of farsi
are you on this planet mate
arabs look at iranians like how iranians in iran look at afghans only hundred times worst
you dont know what you are talking about
hoseins wife who was a iranian pricess was bought by ali and he said hed saved her by forcing her to be fucked by some one she didnt care for
siavash89 4 years ago
Yes exactly. Arab rulers imposed the use of Farsi. You should lookup these facts form objective sources, such as ostad Mottahari's works. As for the allegations about our Imams (a.s.), these are fallacious and insulting.
sillas09 4 years ago
get lost forever sick shitty head
haksh 4 years ago
You say "real Islam" is what the Taliban practied, but how come the deobandi / wahhabis / takfiri-salafi ideologies have been denounced by scores of well guided ulema? Furthermore, if our respected scholars in Islamic Iran believed that girls should be barred from the public education system, then why did none of them *ever* make any statement, nor take any political or legal step in that direction?
sillas09 4 years ago
mullahs kill student protesters in prison every fukin day and say they commited suicide and your tpe say its not real islam
well real islam isnt mullahs.isnt egyptions, isnt saudis and you say its not representd by thetaliban
where is then
siavash89 4 years ago
Have you actually gotten hold of any evidence that student protesters are being "killed everyday" in prison? Not even international (read: western) human rights groups - whose info stems more from Iranian "opposition" than from on-the-ground observation -, have ever claimed such a thing.
sillas09 4 years ago
And yes, since the Islamic Republic - like any other system -, is governed by faillible humans - not by any of the Fourteen ma'sumin (a.s.) -, it cannot be "perfect". However, it is exactly this political order that the mo'menin have to establish in order to advance Islamic aims. What you have to ask yourself is, what are the alternatives, can a system closer to Islamic principles be established by faillibles, or would a secular state be in the Iranian people's overall interest? I think not.
sillas09 4 years ago
why do you fucking think europeans and americans are christians
did they choose it no
history turned out that way. romans stablished it and it stock in europe and was taken over to states
the same thng has happened for us
when are you going to wake up
siavash89 4 years ago
You are missing my point: despite the politics associated with the spread of Christianity, how many European or American citizens are calling for abandoning Christianity on the grounds that it would be "alien" to their culture or that it would have been imposed on their forefathers by some prince? Practically none (outside of microscopic far right-wing or esoterist groups)... So why should we Iranians be living in an unreal, romanticized past which has ceased to exist for over thousand years?
sillas09 4 years ago
fuckin hell
you dont give up do you, used islamic science to develope lol
what science did they use greeks came up with maths and the bits that iranians came up with was from scientists that were muslims but talkedabout drinking and never considering after life
egkhayam and ferdosi who says i saved our language from arabs
if we chose the fukin religion why would h have to save it
siavash89 4 years ago
The Iranian Sufi mystics were Muslim, the "wine" they mention is metaphorical and not meant literally. Ferdosi's work is admirable, but on the practical level, local Arab princes governing Iran imposed the use of Farsi, whereas the Iranian population and elites were enthusiastically using the Arabic language!
sillas09 4 years ago
So are you saying that just because the Greeks first conceptualized mathematics as a science, it did not progress at the hands of the very same Muslim scientists who saved the said knowledge from obliteration during Europe's dark Middle Ages? In that case,
I would urge you to research on the likes of Khwarazmi, Razi, Farabi, or ibn-Khaldun, al-Kindi, al-Jahez, the list is long indeed, and these scientists all made new discoveries. Islam widely contributed to human civilization through this.
sillas09 4 years ago
read into how we converted to become shiats to stop the ottomons take over of iran rather than a decision made by choice
we converted to islam in the same way
read and talk rather than follow
thats why blaire says hes read the qoran and instead of islam he turns to modernism
read and talk rather than talk out of youre ass
siavash89 4 years ago
One of the reasons the Safavis introduced a state religion was the rivalry with Ottomans, but this does not change the fact that majority of Iranians were Shia already, and had freely embraced Shi'ism, let's not forget that! Similarly, the Ottomans were pressuring their own Shia minorities to convert to Sunnism. Same kind of policies were conducted by European princes, yet today, no European in his right mind would call for abandoning Christianity or converting back to paganism!
sillas09 4 years ago
This has nothing to do with why Iran initially embraced Islam: the Iranian state did not seek to convert people to Islam in order to avoid another empire from taking over, actually it is well established that the Sassanid sovereign rejected Islam and was subsequently defeated in battle. So, this episode is entirely different from the Safavids establishing Shi'a Islam as the state religion.
sillas09 4 years ago
Now if Tony Blair had the required knowledge or intellectual honesty, he would be aware that Islamic societies entered modernity while preserving the role of religion. In Europe however, the Churche's anti-modernist mindset ultimately paved the way to secularism, materialism and atheism. Moslem scientist were busy preserving all the ancient Greek, Egyptian or Persian knowledge, while that had been banned in Europe already. Europe would not have experienced its Renaissance if it wasn't for Islam.
sillas09 4 years ago
Thanks anyway for citing Tony Blair's comment, as I had not heard it before, and am going to research its exact content and context. But all things being equal, I can already say that this is mere islamophobia which the masonic former British pm and notorious liar is spreading in the service of empire building and economic-financial exploitation of nations.
sillas09 4 years ago
you fuckin puff
whos the jahel
i know more about youre religion the youre whole household
i used to know the joz 30 by heart useless idiot
siavash89 4 years ago
subhanallah ta'ala, brother/sister sillas, you do not have to explain anything to this denying jahil, I am iranian but I hate iranians that are against Islam and I love my arab and elsewhere brothers and sisters that are muslims, does not matter to me if a brother/sister is iranian or arab.
wassalam
bakhtash 4 years ago
assalam 'aleik to the pious muslims, (not to the hating kuffar), being iranian or american or arab is not what matters, even so that ayatullah khumeini (r.a) once stated that "if by the demolition of Iran the whole world would become muslims then I would beg of allah ta'ala to demolish iran"
bakhtash 4 years ago
yes you are right
i bet if they put swords on you neck and force you again youll convert to budadhism and defend it like crazy
read a little rather than following like donkey
useless
siavash89 4 years ago
Brother, first off, Islam was not imposed on us; only some revisionist "historians" have made this claim, and for essentially political reasons. The people of Iran embraced Islam progressively, and out of free will.
sillas09 4 years ago
Secondly, this is not of great relevance nowadays anyway, because Islam is part of Iran's culture and social fabric, after many centuries of presence. It makes no sense to try and reverse this, just as it makes no sense to ask the Americans to convert back to the pagan religions of pre-christianity Europe.
sillas09 4 years ago
Third, Islam is the most complete and ultimate monotheism, open to all humans regarldess of their national background.
sillas09 4 years ago
brothers and sisters let us not reply to their ignorence opls.. this man was ruhollah .. if we respond to them we are lowering ourselves.. and we no who we are..we are the shia of the ahlyl bait.. thats greter than any ignorent word they can try to say
hanonah1115 4 years ago
lol ur such an ignorent pig.. u are and never will have been worthy of the dirt that was under this mans shoes.. u just talk.. i m sure ur just trailor trash living in america and on the system.. lol just a garbage..
hanonah1115 4 years ago
if hes iranian then im from moon and god is a human being
fuck the lieing, killing, animal
siavash89 4 years ago
Musavi and Khomeini are Iranian names.
sillas09 4 years ago
fuck him andhowever follows him
indian twat
siavash89 4 years ago
Apart from using foul language, which is vain and ugly, you are wrong about the Imam (r.a.), because he is Iranian.
sillas09 4 years ago
Can someone translate this please i want to know what he is saying
abedararea 4 years ago
Salam brother, I shall provide a translation when possible. This could take some time but I'll try my best.
sillas09 4 years ago
W Salam Brother may Allah reward you for doing so and teaching us about Ahul Baiet
abedararea 4 years ago
BTW, I am not anti-Iran at all. I embrace the people, philosophy and faith of the original Persians. Until Islam, the kingdom was most certainly the most advanced on earth.
tkwtkwtkw 4 years ago
Please do some additional research based on objective publications: Iran was also the most advanced country in the world after Islam. Actually science and philosophy florished after the arrival of Islam. Also, Iranians embraced Islam freely, over several centuries, and nowadays those who still follow the Zoroastrian faith are free to practice their religion too.
sillas09 4 years ago
From Abu Ali Sina to Khwarazmi, moslem Iranians were among the greatest scientists and thinkers of their times.
And who brought Iran's litteracy rate from under 50% to 90% at record pace, despite 8 years of imposed war, western embargos and doubling of the population? Who has the highest rate of female university students? Who brought water and electricity to those formerly backward villages ruined by the shah's policies? That and much more was achieved by the Islamic Republic.
sillas09 4 years ago
Of course women, like male homosexuals, are greeted by the Islamist regime with equal disdain, and any 'progress' achieved by either group is due to organized protest and resistance, rather than through some Mullah's compassionate understanding.
tkwtkwtkw 4 years ago
Exactly what "organized protests" are you referring to? The government wasn't "forced" to build schools or universities, to provide villages with water and electricity, it launched those development programs right after the Revolution, through Jihad Sazandegi and other organisations. Nor did the Islamic Republic ever question women's rights to study or to participate in social affairs, as the Imam's (r.a.) statements clearly show.
sillas09 4 years ago
Iranian women were strong participants in the 1979 revolution, but fundamentalists, led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, seized control after the revolution. Once in power, the fundamentalists betrayed the work and humanity of women by implementing a crushing system of gender apartheid. Fundamentalists built their theocracy on the premise that women are physically, intellectually and morally inferior to men, which precludes equal participation in any area of social, or political activity.
tkwtkwtkw 4 years ago
You are not stating any example of how "organized protests" (after 1979) "forced" the government to develope the country. So your initial point must be considered as moot moot.
sillas09 4 years ago