Comparing the Bible to Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994) by former Cardinal Ratzinger - h t t p://hostedDOThomeserverDOTcom/warneveryone/new_catechismDOThtm
Where is the Eucharist in the Book of Acts?
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=36_2vhvUMGM
What Every Catholic Should Know - w w wdotyoutubedotcom/view_play_list?p=E1CB721E3CA65D76
Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, by Charles Chiniqu
@BereanBeacon1 Guy Fawkes and the other conspirators were Roman Catholics trying to kill King James and attack England because of their printing of the King James Bible. Rome and England were the bitterest of enemies. Protestant England was taking the gospel to the world through her rising empire and Rome was not about to let that happen. This is why when Alex Jones and others blame Great Britian and the bankers, it is just another attack on the once mighty empire that helped spread the truth
the rcc says that evolution is in line with Christianity and catholics can believe in it. This is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says mary was sinless. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says confess your sins to a priest. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says mary can save you. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says peter was "the rock". this is CONTRARY to the Bible. The rcc murdered MILLIONS of Christians. This is CONTRARY to the Bible.
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
From Bishop Liguoris' "The Glories of Mary", APPROVED by the vatican! "She (Mary) is . . . the only hope of sinners: (p. 69),"We will be heard and saved sooner by going to Mary, and invoking her holy name, than that of Jesus our Savior. We will find salvation sooner going to the mother than going to the Son" (p. 82),"Many things asked of God and not received are asked and received from Mary (p. 82). All obey the precepts of Mary, even God" (p. 115). ALL CATHOLIC LIES!
This is a horrible story. I know about the priests in the confessional, because I was a "devout" Catholic for 29 yrs. It is amazing how we can think that masochism & guilt, sin with a priest-because his body is "holy" is NOT sin but good. The depravity of the Catholic Church the "Mother of Harlots" is total& complete & goes back to the Babylonian religion. I know, I have been mentally and physically abused by priests and nuns, I have smelled the liqueur on priest's breath. CLOSE THESE HELLHOLES!
@reginaDexant YOU close the hellholes if you feel that strongly about them!! Mental and physical abuse, eh? Well, does that mean you have a RIGHT to abuse other people as you do on Youtube?
@reginaDexant Knowing what a liar you are, I bet that you secretly lusted for the priest and that the nuns tried to stop you being a potty-mouthed little brat. Nothing you say can be trusted.
@Beeshitten How dare you? Sister Charlotte is a PROTESTANT MARTYR...the Jesuits later murdered her for this testimony....after GOD allowed her to tell the TRUTH!!! Blessed be the poor little victims of ROMES EVIL SYSTEM of TORTURE!
@Taharah007 God allowed her to tell the truth, but failed to protect her from murder? Sounds like a very capricious god to me. I wouldn't worship such a creature, but then, I don't have masochistic desires to suffer and die. And if you have a spark of integrity, make sure you read about what Protestants did to Catholics when they got the chance! I doubt you'll have the courage to do that- you already reveal a black and white mentality.
@Beeshitten Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
@Beeshitten January 31, 2000 | CNN KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- Roman Catholic priests in the United States are dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than the general population and the cause is often concealed on their death certificates, The Kansas City Star reported in a series of stories that started Sunday.
@reginaDexant God bless you Regina for coming out...I know many have horror stories to tell...these innoncent little nuns will find the tenderness of Jesus when they finally die...
If her story were true, it should have been possible to come up with some kind of evidence for her story. But, as with so many other anti-Catholic tales, there is none
@Kiwichristian Thanks for the "WELL DONE" and even though its rooted in sarcasm .
Its ok Kiwi I still love you as a Brother In Christ and invite you to the correct Faith and pillar of TRUTH (The Catholic Church Jesus Christ established ) :) now thats something to WOW about
@Gatta9 It was half sarcasm. I get accused of flooding, but even i have never made 14 posts in a row. I love you too. BTW: Emperor constantine established the catholic religion, not Christ.
@hockeyrulesus Not so...Protestantism was founded by YESHUA our Messiah..Rome perverted His teachings...and today Rome is the seat of Satan, a DEN OF DEVILS and INIQUITY.
@Taharah007 Read the Early Church writings, and see if you find Protestantism! Your Anti Catholic Beliefs and doctrines are not found before 1500's! Keep believing all the Propaganda these Demon possessed preachers spew!
Satan knows who his enemy is, and that's why you and your Protestains are obsessed with the Catholic Church, even though all the Orthodox Churches have the exact same doctrine and beliefs. Isn't that Strange to you Sweetie????
15But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
3@KiwichristianOn your theory you could not even take a snapshot of a gum tree. You would be making an image of a thing in the earth beneath. YOU STRAIN AT A GNAT AND SWALLOW A CAMEL! This is the fruit of your private interpretation of Scripture. No. God does not forbid the making of images; He forbids the making of images in order to adore them.
2-@Kiwichristian He says, "Thou shalt make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle." In other words, the Jews wTere to make images of things in the heaven above. And if your interpretation be true, why do you violate God's law by making images of things in the earth beneath? Why images of kings and politicians in our parks? Why photographs of friends and relatives?
@Kiwichristian (sighs) How many times must I repeat this ? You will find the commandments given in Exodus, XX. But in that same Book, XXV., 18, you will find God ordering the Jews to make images of Angels! Would you accuse God of not knowing the sense of His own law?
REMEMBER No one wants you to be loyal to any supposed representatives on earth. But loyalty to Christ demands loyalty to those commissioned by Him to teach and guide in His name. Test the claims before you reject them on prejudice only.
Greber once again wrote If, therefore, we, as faithful servants of God, or at any rate, as honest seekers after the truth, try to get into touch with the world of GOOD SPIRITS we are committing NO SIN, but rather, obeying one of God's commandments; an important commandment, for only through contact with the world of good spirits can we arrive at the truth. There is no other way. (p. 6)
1-Who will solve for us the great problem of the Beyond? To whom shall we carry our doubts, in order that we may learn the real truth? Shall we seek it of the various creeds and their ministers? (p. 1)
@BELLA FOR THE RECORD I REVERT WHAT YOU SAID ...Puhleez..get over yourself ...REALLY ?PLEASE EXPLAIN 3-Though there are several other "hidden secrets" that the JW's keep so quiet, this is just the tip of the iceberg and I wondered how widely known it was.
2-He released a book called "Communication with the spirit world" and this book speaks of his (and his wife's) practice of consulting demon spirits.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are aware that their doctrine is derived from Greber's traslation, and continue to use it, and they even stated that Greber wasn't wrong in believing this.
He (Greber) consulted demon spirits to get further clarification on doctrine which caused him to revise John 1:1, where he interjected one letter, the letter "a". He changed the scripture to state that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was A GOD", and such is the belief system that dictates that Jesus and God are 2 different entities.
@Gatta9 Peter himself says the 'Rock' is Christ.....1 Peter 2:6-8 “Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious, and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame. Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone, and a stone of stumbling and a rock [petra] of offense."
1-@johnthreesixteen316 Can Christ and Peter both be foundation stones at the same time? This indeed is the case as St. Peter is simply to be the ministerial head but Christ is the ultimate head upon which all things depend for their existence. The Headship of St. Peter is dependant upon that of Christ as they are not univocally one and the same since one is subordinate to the other.
2-@johnthreesixteen316 Christ further illustrates this point when he calls us to be to be the light and Truth (Matt 5:16; John 14:6) even though He is the Light and Truth (John 8:12). Hence there is no contradiction but rather an affirmation. There is no contradiction, as both Peter and Christ are the "foundation" or "rock" of the Church in different senses.
3-@johnthreesixteen316 Jesus was the cornerstone, author, and foundation of both salvation and Christianity, so Peter who was the head of the apostles is in a lesser way - was the cornerstone of the Church. St. Paul saw no contradiction in this and openly declares that the Apostles and prophets are cornerstones with Christ: "You are fellow citizens with the saints and domestics of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets" -
4-@johnthreesixteen316 Eph 2:20 He also confirms the same thing explicitly of St. Peter, John and James saying " When they had known the grace that was given to me, James and Cephas (Peter the Rock) and John, who seemed to be PILLARS, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship".
5-@johnthreesixteen316 The Papacy would thus become for the Church what a foundation stone is for a building as outside of this building all are not part of it. This stone offers stability and unity as we get from the supreme authority in any society.
@Gatta9 Hello friend. Christ is the Rock, not Peter.....1 Corinthians 10:4 "And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock [petra] that followed them, and that Rock [petra] was Christ."
@Gatta9 Hello friend. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance for us to do " (Eph. 2:8,9).
If you are not a Catholic than There is no accusation against you if you are a Catholic and you teach false doctrine which is Catholicism than God will judge you not me bye..
@joseph941000able Correction If you have abandoned the Catholic Church and changed from the one flock one sheperd program which Christ himself established and ratified on Peter by handing him the KEYS to the kingdom of heaven then you are already in danger of Judgement
John 3:5 says "Amen, amen I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of WATER and Spirit.” The WATER in this passage, according to the constant 2,000-year teaching of the Catholic Church, and according to St. Augustine and all the Church Fathers who dealt with this passage was:
Jesus Christ is referred to as "Mighty God" in Isa 9:6 ("For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us ... And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God ..."). Jehovah is referred to as "Mighty God" in Isa 10:20-21. How can this be if there is only one God (1Cor 8:4, Isa 43:10, 44:6)?
@Gatta9 I am still trying to find your church in the book of Acts. 8000 Jews in Acts 2 and 4 were, converted without any sacraments. Nothing about the Eucharist. If it had been there the religious leaders would have charged them with breaking Levitical Laws. True Christians today have the same salvation as those Jews. You can have your dead sacraments, but as for me and my house, we have the FREE gift of God.
@BereanBeacon1 Amen friend! You speak the truth. We are 'one' in Christ's free gift of salvation. The Roman Catholic Eucharist is a graven image.....a man-made attempt at creating a carbohydrate Jesus. No different than a plaster statue.
@BereanBeacon1 Do you recall me challenging to debate this particular subject LIVE and you declined?You fled like a coward years ago .Now you have an audience composed of heretics and you act as if you have something to prove? Does your audience know about your cowardice desertion?Is the debate on beacon? YES or NO LIVE
@BereanBeacon1 I have one question for you Beacon In a number of places in Scripture we see that the source of truth for the first Christians was the oral teaching of the Apostles (e.g., Acts 2:42, 16:4; 2 Tim.1:11–14). Do you think this apostolic teaching was a valid and reliable guide? Even when this teaching was given orally and not in writing (2 Thess. 2:15)?
2- I am quite justified in showing that what they think to be in Scripture is not there; and also in showing them that many things are there to which they have never adverted. There is a difference between admitting that Scripture is the only authority; and making use of the only authority other people will accept.
The authority of the Church is not; above that of Scripture; but it is above that of the individual judgment as to what Scripture means. Since the New Testament is of supreme authority in itself and in its right sense, I am justified in using it as proof. Then, too, when I am talking to people who profess to accept Scripture only,
5 -But, as I have pointed out, Christ intended that, for He did not order anything to be written, but established His Church and sent it to teach all nations what He had revealed, and its applications in practice.
@Gatta9 ..Christ certainly bestowed relevance on the written word. He quoted it Himself when rebuking the devil in the desert and also in the temple. The written word is the final authority.
@bella50008 The Catholic Church was built by Christ and upon Christ before a line of the New Testament was written. She received her doctrine immediately from the lips of Christ, and is safeguarded from error in her teaching by the Holy Spirit. Between 40 and 80 years after her foundation, some of her members wrote the Books of the New Testament. If the Gospels were the only rule of faith, then before they were written there could have been no Christian rule of faith at all!
4-For example, which Books of Scripture are canonical, the very inspiration of those Books, the teachings on infant baptism, or on the matter and form of the Sacraments, and many other things, are known to us by the traditional and living voice of the Church only.
The divine teaching has been preserved and handed down completely in the Catholic Church, both by that section written in the New Testament, and by that section of revealed truth which was not committed to writing, but which is declared by the living voice of the Church.
2-He demanded faith in His doctrines as they were preached by word of mouth. Before the New Testament was written, the only rule of faith was the oral teaching of the Apostles. Later on, part of the knowledge possessed by the Apostles was committed to writing, but part only. Not all revealed truth was written down.
@Gatta9 Hello friend. All of the truth available to us has been written down. Everything a person needs to know regarding their salvation is contained in the written Word. We don't need any man-made doctrines added to the equation.
Besides the Bible, the Catholic Church recognizes the divinely safeguarded tradition which has been preserved and transmitted in the Church. You must remember that Christ Himself established tradition as the main vehicle by which His teachings would be preserved in the Church and communicated to men. He did not expressly order any Gospels to be written.
4- He would have said to you, "Such is the unanimous teaching of the Apostles as we have received it from Christ." And either you would have accepted the teaching authority of the Church represented by the Apostles, or you would have been without the Christian faith.
3-The Apostles had to win belief in themselves and in their mission before they could win belief in their Master. It was on their testimony that the first converts believed in Christ. Had you lived then, and had you gone to one of the Apostles demanding proof from the written Word, he would have been quite unable to provide proof from Gospels which had not yet been written!
2-The divine authority of the Church was the first fact as far as men were concerned in the order of proof. Before a line of the New Testament was written it was the Church that preached Christ to the first converts. Jesus commanded no writings, but told the Apostles to preach the truth, saying, "Teach all nations." And He promised them, "He who hears you, hears Me."
You would not have the Bible save for the Catholic Church. Also, not all that God has revealed is contained in the Bible. And yet more, the Bible cannot be a sufficient guide when it requires another guide to explain its meaning. Remember that the first Christians owed their faith, not to the Gospels, but to the Church.
@Gatta9 ...Puhleez..get over yourself and the error riddled catholic church. Do you honestly believe that if the people (who may have been catholic) had not canonized the bible that God would not have instructed someone else to do it? That is as ludicrous as your heretical belief that if Mary had said "no" to God Jesus would not have been born! God is much more intelligent than you catholics give Him credit for being. Satan is a liar. The Bible is the final authority.
@bella50008@bella50008 The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
@bella5000The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
@bella50008 It is important to point out that the Catholic Church has never made any false prophecies, nor has she ever erred on doctrinal and theological issues. Some Catholics may have, but the Church, particularly the pope, never has.
@bella50008 Wrong again ..please furnish me with the times Charles Taze Russell predicted the end of this system .Explain to me why Mr Charles Taze Russell is buried under a pyramid?Please tell me about Greber
@bella50008@bella50008 Wrong again ..please furnish me with the times Charles Taze Russell predicted the end of this system .Explain to me why Mr Charles Taze Russell is buried under a pyramid?Please tell me about Greber
@bella50008 If Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel, how can Mt 25:31 say, "When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and ALL the angels with him, ...". Since "all the angels" would certainly include Michael the Archangel, is it possible that Jesus could return with himself?
@bella50008 I know him better than you can possibly imagine bella with 2000 years and the Apostolic sucession Jesus himself established .what can you possibly teach me?
@bella50008 The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
@bella50008 Scripture itself denies that it is the only rule of faith. The last verse of St. John's Gospel tells us that not all concerning Our Lord's work is contained in Scripture.
2-@bella50008 St. Paul tells us over and over again that much of Christian teaching is to be found in tradition. One who clings to the reading of the Bible only might be able to cite hundreds of texts yet not know Christian doctrine by any means. In fact, the adoption of the Bible only has led to as many opinions as there are men amongst non-Catholics.
3-@bella50008 Finally, Scripture tells us most clearly that the Catholic Church is the rule of faith, that Church which Christ sent to teach all nations and which He commanded men to hear and obey. He who believes in Scripture as his only guide ends by believing in his own mistaken interpretations of the Bible, and that means that he ends by believing in himself.
@bella50008 The Catholic Church was built by Christ and upon Christ before a line of the New Testament was written. She received her doctrine immediately from the lips of Christ, and is safeguarded from error in her teaching by the Holy Spirit. Between 40 and 80 years after her foundation, some of her members wrote the Books of the New Testament. If the Gospels were the only rule of faith, then before they were written there could have been no Christian rule of faith at all!
What kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence? This represents about 53% of the time they have existed!
If the name "Jehovah" is so important, then why does Acts 4:12 say, "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name [v10 Jesus Christ] under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved"? Would this not have been the logical place for God to have used the name "YHWH"?
If the name Jehovah is so important, then why is it never used in the entire Greek New Testament? If men edited out the name of God, "YHWH" when they copied the New Testament, as only the Watchtower organization claims, then how can we have any confidence in any of the New Testament? Should we discard the New Testament or the Watchtower organization as unreliable?
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
3-They regard all organized churches and their clergy as agents of Satan, but entertain a special hatred of the Catholic Church, regarding the Pope as the Beast predicted by Daniel and St. John. Their exegetical gymnastics in the interpretation of mystical texts is astonishing. Meantime they claim to have originated in 1874, which is just 1874 years too late for one who seeks the Church actually established by Christ
2- Their religion is based upon the conjecture that Christ's second coming is imminent. They pay little or no attention to the obvious things in Scripture, but concentrate upon one point in particular which Christ purposely left obscure, saying, "It is not given to man to know these things."
The "Witnesses of Jehovah" merely constitute a form of that sect known as the Russellites. They have no evidence whatever that Jehovah ever asked them to be His witnesses. The Russellites were named after Pastor Charles T. Russell, an American who started a new form of Protestantism.
I am so glade that God took Sis. Charlotte out of this false church and into a Apostolic oneness church, i will continue to pray that God will lead more catholics from this false church and into a Acts 2:38 church in JESUS NAME.
@MrJesusonly1 Amen! There are so many verses in scripture that contradict RCC theology Rom 4:5 utterly condemns the System of salvation by masses penance priests etc, bible teaches that salvation is gift of God not of works & this gift is freely given by God to those who trust in the merits of Christ's finished work on Calvary, the RCC SYSTEM is a demonic counterfeit to keep the lost RCs on the broad road to hell
@kiwichristian2009 Wrong If you check the Greek, it doesn't say "THAT faith," it says "THE faith." The words "that faith" are a Protestant invention, since Protestants are desperate to distinguish between two types of faith, "saving" and "non-saving." James isn't addressing the "type" of faith.
2-@kiwichristian2009 He is addressing whether the person who says he has faith will now add works to that faith. If he does not add works, it does not mean that he has no faith. It only means that he refuses to add works, and thus he cannot be saved.
1-@kiwichristian2009 We know that we are sinners (Rom 3:23, 1 John 1:8) that God saves; and we know that nothing impure can enter heaven (Rev 21:27). We are told that without holiness no-one will see the Lord (Heb 12:14). So between death and heaven there must be some sort of purification.
3-@kiwichristian2009 Onesiphorus — In 2 Tim. 1:16-17, Paul says, "May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, because he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains; when he arrived in Rome, he eagerly searched for me and found me." It's interesting that Paul asked for mercy for Onesiphorus's household, but not for Onesiphorus himself.
4-@kiwichristian2009 Then Paul proceeded to eulogize Onesiphorus. It seems rather clear that Onesiphorus was dead, and that Paul was recalling his faithful service. Then Paul says, "May the Lord grant that he will find mercy from the Lord on that day!" (2 Tim. 1:18). This could well be a prayer for the dead.
4-@kiwichristian2009 Then Paul proceeded to eulogize Onesiphorus. It seems rather clear that Onesiphorus was dead, and that Paul was recalling his faithful service. Then Paul says, "May the Lord grant that he will find mercy from the Lord on that day!" (2 Tim. 1:18). This could well be a prayer for the dead.
My friends, I hope the information i have presented has helped to show you the truth. That you only need believe on the Lord Jesus with all your heart to be saved.
@kiwichristian2009 It would be the greatest possible injustice to regard her as a goddess. It is just to honor her even as God has honored her, which we Catholics do. Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords, and His mother certainly possesses queenly dignity, holding the highest place in Heaven next to her Divine Son. But that does not, and cannot change her finite and created human nature. To regard her as a goddess would be absurd.
@Gatta9 Show me in the Bible anything or anywhere where mary is even suggested as being "queen of heaven". Actually, quote me the verse or verses that mention a "queen of heaven", please.
@kiwichristian2009 Christ is the principal mediator in His own right. Mary is a secondary mediatrix, through, with, and in Christ. Without Him she would have no power, and therefore He is the source of all mediation with God on behalf of men.
@Gatta9 .."Christ is the principal mediator in His own right. Mary is a secondary mediatrix, through, with, and in Christ. Without Him she would have no power, and therefore He is the source of all mediation with God on behalf of men."
Mary is not a secondary mediator - there is no such thing. Period. Jesus is absolutely, categorically, infinitely ALL the mediation man will ever need with God. Period.
@kiwichristian2009 It follows from the doctrine of the Communion of Saints. Remember that, by Baptism, every Christian is incorporated with Christ. St. Paul says, "Christ is the head; ye are the members." So close is this union that Christ says, "Whoever gives you to drink a cup of water in my name, because you belong to me; amen, I say to you, he shall not lose his reward." Mk. IX., 40. Every Christian is Christ in a most intimate way.
3-@kiwichristian2009 St. Paul tells us that if a baptized person sins, he takes the members of Christ and makes them the members of iniquity! When that same St. Paul was persecuting the Christians before his conversion, Christ appeared to him and said, "Saul, Saul, why persecutest Thou Me?"
4-@kiwichristian2009 He did not say, "Why persecutest thou My disciples?" He could equally say, when we pray to Mary or to the saints, "What asketh thou of Me?" When we honor Our Lady or the Saints, we honor, not their own merely human and created nature, but we honor Christ in them according to the doctrine of Scripture. The Catholic Church is the only completely scriptural Church.
the origins of this change came from a man who was not even POPE! Catholics believe what nuns and brothers write is truth & quote it. one such man wrote how hard it was to accept that after Jesus forgave him & he sinned again for his soul to still be saved. thus, he wrote that surely we had to pay off these post-believer debts to enter heaven, even if in purgatory. Carmelites pray all day to get GOD to remove the dead to heaven out of purgatory & hope their convent suffering will save someone!
@kathyelda I know. they sacrifice Jesus again and again, therefore calling God a liar. Carmelites are offending God and doing the work of Satan. There no purgatory. God clearly teaches there is only two options when you die. Heaven,, or Hell. My God is not a God of confusion.
basically, the girls get up before dawn to pray for others, then go to bed, get up and do it again, then get dressed and brush their teeth, etc. then they pray and eat, only certain foods, then pray more. near the end of the day they get free time to write home, read letters, sing, play instruments, and talk. the higherup sisters are segregated at this time, so you can talk with the group you are in, not higher or lower of the 2. on HOLY days they eat fish, cookies too, saved any you send for it
i made sure to tell my buddy that when she went in...and she said she would leave if they did. so far, no sexual abuse. also, another friend was temporarily out of another type of convent. i sat with her and wrote a full day in her monastic life. she too had no "abuse"...but hers had no meat! i could NEVER live without pepperoni pizza! someone actually brought some to my Carmelite friends!
Ah, ok. I must admit i may be generalizing here, but from the testimonies i have listened to by ex-nuns and ex-priests, pedophilia, homosexuality and sexual abuse of nuns is prevalent, to the point where _I_ would class it as "the norm".
we must be careful that we don't scare people with exaggerations...the Truth is enough, nothing else needed.
yes! young nuns and priests in training have openly told me that there are issues with homosexuals having taken over the seminaries...even to the point that a "straight' young Catholic is almost shunned and made to feel like he should not be there.
they blame a LOT of it on the bad version of the Bible that came out in the 1960's, and glow that the new one is not in that err.
the newest English version of the Catholic Bible fixes some places that were left up to interpretation.
one example given me, which i can't recall, was far more like ours in the new one and obviously a problem in the 1960's one.
also, my buddy ALMOST went to visit a nunnery once she concidered joinging that she read about online, but a good priest warned her they were bad nuns...homosexuals!
another thing is that they can leave anytime for 6 years. they also can be kicked out during that time. that is sort of what happened to the girl from the other type of nunnery, but after a period back here, she was allowed to return...and she wanted to really badly. she missed it.
also, you can always beware of any group that keeps you from outside communication, keeps you from getting enough food or sleep, and keeps you busy with prayers or other chanting.
some say nuns don't have time to read the Bible for all the praying...and some say people of Islam don't have time to think for the same reasoning.
also, if you ask a Catholic who loves God and goes to mass if they are going to heaven, they will say i hope so. that is because they don't KNOW that they are freed from all sin by the blood of Jesus when they repent their sins and believe every word of GOD.
may i then suggest searching online to see if you can find a Catholic church's latin mass...all masses at churches can be different, the latin is less common now.
then you can observe without attendance and understand exactly where it is wrong and write of that.
without observation of others we can't know...don't worship with them, just observe.
remember the pantheon?
i see you are very religious people, some once said...the unknown god was one of many.
@kiwichristian2009 The Eucharist is a re-presentation of the one sacrifice at Calvary and transcends time. Christ is not re-crucified in the Mass.
Heb 9:22 says that shedding of blood is required for forgiveness of sins, but Jesus says the cup of his blood is poured out for forgiveness of sins, so Jesus personally united the unbloody last supper with his sacrifice on the cross.
Heb 9:25-26 talks about bloody "Jewish" sacrifices; the Eucharist is unbloody.
@kiwichristian2009 See Heb 9:23 - "Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these rites, but the heavenly things themselves need better sacrifices than these" (note the plural).
This antichrist corrupts the Word Of God, removing those commandments that may cause doubt in his church. Actually removes and adds to the bible when we are warned in the Bible NOT to alter any word in it or change it in any way.
did you know that other churches change the WORD and cut out bits too?
an example is a popular church for homosexuals that told its members NOT to read certain portions of the old and New Testaments...the parts that talked about it being a sin, they used to be killed for any immoral sexual sin, but how they could stop and now even be forgiven by Jesus! one read it, now goes to my church!
many people don't bother to read the Book, some who even say they do...even those in Seminary!
I agree. I am focussing more on the RCC as i feel it promotes and commits the most heresies against God. But they are not unique. I am also not condemning the catholics themselves, but the church. The sodomite translators of the NIV completely removed the word "sodomite" from the bible. The bible says that he who thinks evil is as bad as someone who does it, so for the RCC to say sodomites are ok as long as they dont DO IT are wrong.
there seems to be a great temptation for all those in ministry, priest and pastor...any church.
i think it is as it was for bill clinton, power and thinking they can't be caught.
then after they are, the Evilone who tricked them into that act now says to them "now you will lose your ministry and never be able to save a soul again."
too anyone who reads this who did such a sin, know GOD can forgive you, and He can still use you...ignore the Devil's lies.
Yes, God can forgive and use the worst of sinners. The old "me' was a terrible sinner and a dreadful, self-hatred-filled person. God forgave me, and i have been able to forgive myself. The sinful thoughts of my past are still there and are still classed as sin, but they don't control or rule my life now and God has forgiven me once and for all.
Jesus can forgive each person for his sins, no matter what kind, and even though we can expect to be punnished for breaking the world's laws on earth, in the afterlife we who repented will not perish but live with the LORD in a place without hate, without murder, without lies!
Christians are not perfect, only GOD is.
We need not brag, we did nothing to earn redemption, Jesus offered it.
Anyone can get in heaven, but only by the same door.
Yes. Unfortunatly the pope says HE is the door, or door-keeper and that salvation is impossible outside the catholic church. I just tell people to open the Bible and read it. Thats all they need to do to find the truth. If an organisation or church says anything contrary to the word of God, then have no fellowship with it.
a good idea may be to open the Bible and read it to them with them there...or ask them to read it and hand it to them (if you know they can read) because most people will say they will look it up and don't. most people say to a suffering person "oh, i will pray for you" and don't...they are busy and forget.
no, we no not profess to be perfect or indeed better than anyone else. I am a terrible sinner and there is nothing good in me that comes from me. I sin every single day in one way or another. it is ONLY through the blood of Jesus Christ that i am saved.
at a Carmelite MEN's monestary in Oregon a man there asked me if i were perfect!
he looked so sad when i said no.
we talked for hours on the Scriptures with a couple other brothers and he just sucked in the Truth...i don't think he has had access to the Word, and my pastor explains things so well!
when the head priest arrived, it ended.
please pray for those who seek God, but don't know where to seek.
I am not surprised. The Bible contricts most, if not all of catholic traditions and dogmas. I pray that these people will indeed find the truth and i pray that we are able to witness to them.
i think it is not goodthat they add to their religion from other paegan religions, and that is where they get off...the reasoning is that the people are used to certain godesses and traditions, so add them in and clean them up and the people can tollerate Christianity.
i know one Catholic with a sad life who praises that about his religion.
he thinks he knows more than any protestant and yells a lot...his mom was living with a woman and it made him hurt so much.
it would be so hard to remove all the icons, saints that were never Christians but paegans that were added on (yes, it is true), and all the fake holidays.
perhaps instead of Easter and Christmas, we all should worship Jesus and celebrate His birth and resurection on some other days...quietly pass along a date!
According to the Bible, only God the Father is to be called "holy father", yet this antichrist accepts this title and allows people to worship him and kiss his feet as they did for the Lord Jesus Christ. Thereby making himself equal with God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Also by saying that there is no salvation outside of him or his church. He Also says you must earn your way to heaven, yet God says "Through the deeds of the law shall no man be justified".
sadly, many atheists in my area are former Catholics...they were told all other churches are false, so they don't even seek a better truthful church, they just hate Christians period.
i have warned some Catholics of this problem...they are making it by saying this.
I can understand that. With all the ceremonies, blasphemies, lies and contradictions that the catholic church promote, its enough to drive anyone to athesiesm!
Yes. Start begin with the Bible, then ( i am assuming here ) they get brainwashed into believing church doctrine and history OVER the Bible. I agree, we must pray that these lost people come out of the RCC.
i know that during a mass, they read a portion of the old testament, the new, and a psalm. that way they do go through their entire Bible in a year. however, although they can claim to have read it by this, they just chant through it quickly and don't stop and learn about that portion in depth.
SOME priests, just as some pastors, are better than others at preaching, and i find Roman Catholic isn't as good as Orthodox...my opinion.
@kiwichristian2009 yes read the bible..the hand book of war...rape..and pillage! LUKE 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. THE CATHOLICS ARE WRONG? NO THE CATHOLICS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!! YOU JEW WORSHIPERS WILL PAY FOR YOURE CRIMES!!!! YOU ARE ALL EVIL!!!
@WORLDARYANREVIVAL The Catholics are sincerely wrong and you have the nerve to bring scripture in ?! What about thou shall not have any other gods before me ? Do not the Catholics worship Mary as if she is the queen of heaven ?? That was a proverb by the way and of course it is true but your slightly taking it out of context.
OMG!
DaReelSituation 3 weeks ago
@imfixable1 Amen,
Comparing the Bible to Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994) by former Cardinal Ratzinger - h t t p://hostedDOThomeserverDOTcom/warneveryone/new_catechismDOThtm
Where is the Eucharist in the Book of Acts?
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=36_2vhvUMGM
What Every Catholic Should Know - w w wdotyoutubedotcom/view_play_list?p=E1CB721E3CA65D76
Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, by Charles Chiniqu
w w wdot.biblebelieversdotcom/chiniquy/
BereanBeacon1 6 months ago
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@BereanBeacon1 Guy Fawkes and the other conspirators were Roman Catholics trying to kill King James and attack England because of their printing of the King James Bible. Rome and England were the bitterest of enemies. Protestant England was taking the gospel to the world through her rising empire and Rome was not about to let that happen. This is why when Alex Jones and others blame Great Britian and the bankers, it is just another attack on the once mighty empire that helped spread the truth
Jesuitfinder 3 months ago
the rcc says that evolution is in line with Christianity and catholics can believe in it. This is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says mary was sinless. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says confess your sins to a priest. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says mary can save you. this is CONTRARY to the Bible. the rcc says peter was "the rock". this is CONTRARY to the Bible. The rcc murdered MILLIONS of Christians. This is CONTRARY to the Bible.
kiwichristian2009 8 months ago 7
cult
smartpeeple 8 months ago 5
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
kiwichristian2009 10 months ago 2
From Bishop Liguoris' "The Glories of Mary", APPROVED by the vatican! "She (Mary) is . . . the only hope of sinners: (p. 69),"We will be heard and saved sooner by going to Mary, and invoking her holy name, than that of Jesus our Savior. We will find salvation sooner going to the mother than going to the Son" (p. 82),"Many things asked of God and not received are asked and received from Mary (p. 82). All obey the precepts of Mary, even God" (p. 115). ALL CATHOLIC LIES!
kiwichristian2009 10 months ago
Check out a VERY RARE 6 night series by Sister Charlotte at my mfblume2 channel.
mfblume2 1 year ago
This is a horrible story. I know about the priests in the confessional, because I was a "devout" Catholic for 29 yrs. It is amazing how we can think that masochism & guilt, sin with a priest-because his body is "holy" is NOT sin but good. The depravity of the Catholic Church the "Mother of Harlots" is total& complete & goes back to the Babylonian religion. I know, I have been mentally and physically abused by priests and nuns, I have smelled the liqueur on priest's breath. CLOSE THESE HELLHOLES!
reginaDexant 1 year ago
@reginaDexant YOU close the hellholes if you feel that strongly about them!! Mental and physical abuse, eh? Well, does that mean you have a RIGHT to abuse other people as you do on Youtube?
Beeshitten 11 months ago
@reginaDexant Knowing what a liar you are, I bet that you secretly lusted for the priest and that the nuns tried to stop you being a potty-mouthed little brat. Nothing you say can be trusted.
Beeshitten 11 months ago
@Beeshitten How dare you? Sister Charlotte is a PROTESTANT MARTYR...the Jesuits later murdered her for this testimony....after GOD allowed her to tell the TRUTH!!! Blessed be the poor little victims of ROMES EVIL SYSTEM of TORTURE!
Taharah007 11 months ago
@Taharah007 God allowed her to tell the truth, but failed to protect her from murder? Sounds like a very capricious god to me. I wouldn't worship such a creature, but then, I don't have masochistic desires to suffer and die. And if you have a spark of integrity, make sure you read about what Protestants did to Catholics when they got the chance! I doubt you'll have the courage to do that- you already reveal a black and white mentality.
Beeshitten 11 months ago
@Beeshitten Matthew 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
sharlyates40 1 week ago
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@Beeshitten January 31, 2000 | CNN KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- Roman Catholic priests in the United States are dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than the general population and the cause is often concealed on their death certificates, The Kansas City Star reported in a series of stories that started Sunday.
kiwichristian2009 10 months ago 2
@reginaDexant God bless you Regina for coming out...I know many have horror stories to tell...these innoncent little nuns will find the tenderness of Jesus when they finally die...
Taharah007 11 months ago
CATHOLICISM A SATANIC SYSTEM ~~ GET OUT OF THIS RUBBISH FOLKS
glizag 1 year ago
@glizag AMEN!!! THE WHORE OF REVELATION...!
Taharah007 11 months ago
This sounds a true as Jesse Dupree's story of going to Heaven and seeing God. LOL
hockeyrulesus 1 year ago
If her story were true, it should have been possible to come up with some kind of evidence for her story. But, as with so many other anti-Catholic tales, there is none
hockeyrulesus 1 year ago
@Kiwichristian Thanks for the "WELL DONE" and even though its rooted in sarcasm .
Its ok Kiwi I still love you as a Brother In Christ and invite you to the correct Faith and pillar of TRUTH (The Catholic Church Jesus Christ established ) :) now thats something to WOW about
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 It was half sarcasm. I get accused of flooding, but even i have never made 14 posts in a row. I love you too. BTW: Emperor constantine established the catholic religion, not Christ.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Martin Luther established your Religion, not Christ.
hockeyrulesus 1 year ago
@hockeyrulesus Not so...Protestantism was founded by YESHUA our Messiah..Rome perverted His teachings...and today Rome is the seat of Satan, a DEN OF DEVILS and INIQUITY.
Taharah007 11 months ago
@Taharah007 Read the Early Church writings, and see if you find Protestantism! Your Anti Catholic Beliefs and doctrines are not found before 1500's! Keep believing all the Propaganda these Demon possessed preachers spew!
Satan knows who his enemy is, and that's why you and your Protestains are obsessed with the Catholic Church, even though all the Orthodox Churches have the exact same doctrine and beliefs. Isn't that Strange to you Sweetie????
hockeyrulesus 11 months ago
@Kiwichristian Consistency has always been my forte .
1 Peter 3:15
15But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
Regards,
Kiwi
Gatta9 1 year ago
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3@KiwichristianOn your theory you could not even take a snapshot of a gum tree. You would be making an image of a thing in the earth beneath. YOU STRAIN AT A GNAT AND SWALLOW A CAMEL! This is the fruit of your private interpretation of Scripture. No. God does not forbid the making of images; He forbids the making of images in order to adore them.
Gatta9 1 year ago
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Gatta9 1 year ago
2-@Kiwichristian He says, "Thou shalt make also two cherubims of beaten gold, on the two sides of the oracle." In other words, the Jews wTere to make images of things in the heaven above. And if your interpretation be true, why do you violate God's law by making images of things in the earth beneath? Why images of kings and politicians in our parks? Why photographs of friends and relatives?
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Kiwichristian (sighs) How many times must I repeat this ? You will find the commandments given in Exodus, XX. But in that same Book, XXV., 18, you will find God ordering the Jews to make images of Angels! Would you accuse God of not knowing the sense of His own law?
Gatta9 1 year ago
REMEMBER No one wants you to be loyal to any supposed representatives on earth. But loyalty to Christ demands loyalty to those commissioned by Him to teach and guide in His name. Test the claims before you reject them on prejudice only.
Gatta9 1 year ago
Greber once again wrote If, therefore, we, as faithful servants of God, or at any rate, as honest seekers after the truth, try to get into touch with the world of GOOD SPIRITS we are committing NO SIN, but rather, obeying one of God's commandments; an important commandment, for only through contact with the world of good spirits can we arrive at the truth. There is no other way. (p. 6)
Gatta9 1 year ago
Have you forgotten what Mr Greber said?
1-Who will solve for us the great problem of the Beyond? To whom shall we carry our doubts, in order that we may learn the real truth? Shall we seek it of the various creeds and their ministers? (p. 1)
Gatta9 1 year ago
@BELLA FOR THE RECORD I REVERT WHAT YOU SAID ...Puhleez..get over yourself ...REALLY ?PLEASE EXPLAIN 3-Though there are several other "hidden secrets" that the JW's keep so quiet, this is just the tip of the iceberg and I wondered how widely known it was.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-He released a book called "Communication with the spirit world" and this book speaks of his (and his wife's) practice of consulting demon spirits.
The Jehovah's Witnesses are aware that their doctrine is derived from Greber's traslation, and continue to use it, and they even stated that Greber wasn't wrong in believing this.
Gatta9 1 year ago
He (Greber) consulted demon spirits to get further clarification on doctrine which caused him to revise John 1:1, where he interjected one letter, the letter "a". He changed the scripture to state that "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was A GOD", and such is the belief system that dictates that Jesus and God are 2 different entities.
Gatta9 1 year ago
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Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Peter himself says the 'Rock' is Christ.....1 Peter 2:6-8 “Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious, and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame. Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone, and a stone of stumbling and a rock [petra] of offense."
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
1-@johnthreesixteen316 Can Christ and Peter both be foundation stones at the same time? This indeed is the case as St. Peter is simply to be the ministerial head but Christ is the ultimate head upon which all things depend for their existence. The Headship of St. Peter is dependant upon that of Christ as they are not univocally one and the same since one is subordinate to the other.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-@johnthreesixteen316 Christ further illustrates this point when he calls us to be to be the light and Truth (Matt 5:16; John 14:6) even though He is the Light and Truth (John 8:12). Hence there is no contradiction but rather an affirmation. There is no contradiction, as both Peter and Christ are the "foundation" or "rock" of the Church in different senses.
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-@johnthreesixteen316 Jesus was the cornerstone, author, and foundation of both salvation and Christianity, so Peter who was the head of the apostles is in a lesser way - was the cornerstone of the Church. St. Paul saw no contradiction in this and openly declares that the Apostles and prophets are cornerstones with Christ: "You are fellow citizens with the saints and domestics of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets" -
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-@johnthreesixteen316 Eph 2:20 He also confirms the same thing explicitly of St. Peter, John and James saying " When they had known the grace that was given to me, James and Cephas (Peter the Rock) and John, who seemed to be PILLARS, gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship".
Gatta9 1 year ago
5-@johnthreesixteen316 The Papacy would thus become for the Church what a foundation stone is for a building as outside of this building all are not part of it. This stone offers stability and unity as we get from the supreme authority in any society.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Hello friend. Christ is the Rock, not Peter.....1 Corinthians 10:4 "And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock [petra] that followed them, and that Rock [petra] was Christ."
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
How many times does the phrase “faith alone” (or “faith only”) appear in the New Testament?
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Hello friend. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from youselves, it is the gift of God--NOT BY WORKS, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance for us to do " (Eph. 2:8,9).
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@Gatta9
If you are not a Catholic than There is no accusation against you if you are a Catholic and you teach false doctrine which is Catholicism than God will judge you not me bye..
joseph941000able 1 year ago
@joseph941000able Correction If you have abandoned the Catholic Church and changed from the one flock one sheperd program which Christ himself established and ratified on Peter by handing him the KEYS to the kingdom of heaven then you are already in danger of Judgement
Gatta9 1 year ago
How does James 2:24 describe justification?
"a person is justified by faith alone"
"a person is justified by works and not by faith alone"
Gatta9 1 year ago
John 3:5 says "Amen, amen I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of WATER and Spirit.” The WATER in this passage, according to the constant 2,000-year teaching of the Catholic Church, and according to St. Augustine and all the Church Fathers who dealt with this passage was:
A-symbolic water
B-the real water of Baptism
C-amniotic fluid
Gatta9 1 year ago
Berean According to the Bible, what is “the pillar and foundation of truth”?
A-The Church
B-The Bible
?
Gatta9 1 year ago
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Gatta9 1 year ago
Jesus Christ is referred to as "Mighty God" in Isa 9:6 ("For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us ... And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God ..."). Jehovah is referred to as "Mighty God" in Isa 10:20-21. How can this be if there is only one God (1Cor 8:4, Isa 43:10, 44:6)?
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 I am still trying to find your church in the book of Acts. 8000 Jews in Acts 2 and 4 were, converted without any sacraments. Nothing about the Eucharist. If it had been there the religious leaders would have charged them with breaking Levitical Laws. True Christians today have the same salvation as those Jews. You can have your dead sacraments, but as for me and my house, we have the FREE gift of God.
BereanBeacon1 1 year ago
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Gatta9 1 year ago
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Gatta9 1 year ago
@BereanBeacon1 Amen friend! You speak the truth. We are 'one' in Christ's free gift of salvation. The Roman Catholic Eucharist is a graven image.....a man-made attempt at creating a carbohydrate Jesus. No different than a plaster statue.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@BereanBeacon1 Do you recall me challenging to debate this particular subject LIVE and you declined?You fled like a coward years ago .Now you have an audience composed of heretics and you act as if you have something to prove? Does your audience know about your cowardice desertion?Is the debate on beacon? YES or NO LIVE
Gatta9 1 year ago
@BereanBeacon1 I have one question for you Beacon In a number of places in Scripture we see that the source of truth for the first Christians was the oral teaching of the Apostles (e.g., Acts 2:42, 16:4; 2 Tim.1:11–14). Do you think this apostolic teaching was a valid and reliable guide? Even when this teaching was given orally and not in writing (2 Thess. 2:15)?
Gatta9 1 year ago
2- I am quite justified in showing that what they think to be in Scripture is not there; and also in showing them that many things are there to which they have never adverted. There is a difference between admitting that Scripture is the only authority; and making use of the only authority other people will accept.
Gatta9 1 year ago
The authority of the Church is not; above that of Scripture; but it is above that of the individual judgment as to what Scripture means. Since the New Testament is of supreme authority in itself and in its right sense, I am justified in using it as proof. Then, too, when I am talking to people who profess to accept Scripture only,
Gatta9 1 year ago
5 -But, as I have pointed out, Christ intended that, for He did not order anything to be written, but established His Church and sent it to teach all nations what He had revealed, and its applications in practice.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ..Christ certainly bestowed relevance on the written word. He quoted it Himself when rebuking the devil in the desert and also in the temple. The written word is the final authority.
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 Great point! Christ quoted scripture showing the power and authority of it.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@bella50008 The Catholic Church was built by Christ and upon Christ before a line of the New Testament was written. She received her doctrine immediately from the lips of Christ, and is safeguarded from error in her teaching by the Holy Spirit. Between 40 and 80 years after her foundation, some of her members wrote the Books of the New Testament. If the Gospels were the only rule of faith, then before they were written there could have been no Christian rule of faith at all!
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-For example, which Books of Scripture are canonical, the very inspiration of those Books, the teachings on infant baptism, or on the matter and form of the Sacraments, and many other things, are known to us by the traditional and living voice of the Church only.
Gatta9 1 year ago
The divine teaching has been preserved and handed down completely in the Catholic Church, both by that section written in the New Testament, and by that section of revealed truth which was not committed to writing, but which is declared by the living voice of the Church.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-He demanded faith in His doctrines as they were preached by word of mouth. Before the New Testament was written, the only rule of faith was the oral teaching of the Apostles. Later on, part of the knowledge possessed by the Apostles was committed to writing, but part only. Not all revealed truth was written down.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Hello friend. All of the truth available to us has been written down. Everything a person needs to know regarding their salvation is contained in the written Word. We don't need any man-made doctrines added to the equation.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Besides the Bible, the Catholic Church recognizes the divinely safeguarded tradition which has been preserved and transmitted in the Church. You must remember that Christ Himself established tradition as the main vehicle by which His teachings would be preserved in the Church and communicated to men. He did not expressly order any Gospels to be written.
Gatta9 1 year ago
4- He would have said to you, "Such is the unanimous teaching of the Apostles as we have received it from Christ." And either you would have accepted the teaching authority of the Church represented by the Apostles, or you would have been without the Christian faith.
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-The Apostles had to win belief in themselves and in their mission before they could win belief in their Master. It was on their testimony that the first converts believed in Christ. Had you lived then, and had you gone to one of the Apostles demanding proof from the written Word, he would have been quite unable to provide proof from Gospels which had not yet been written!
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-The divine authority of the Church was the first fact as far as men were concerned in the order of proof. Before a line of the New Testament was written it was the Church that preached Christ to the first converts. Jesus commanded no writings, but told the Apostles to preach the truth, saying, "Teach all nations." And He promised them, "He who hears you, hears Me."
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Which came first, the Roman Catholic church or scripture? Hmmmm.....scripture is the authority.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
You would not have the Bible save for the Catholic Church. Also, not all that God has revealed is contained in the Bible. And yet more, the Bible cannot be a sufficient guide when it requires another guide to explain its meaning. Remember that the first Christians owed their faith, not to the Gospels, but to the Church.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ...Puhleez..get over yourself and the error riddled catholic church. Do you honestly believe that if the people (who may have been catholic) had not canonized the bible that God would not have instructed someone else to do it? That is as ludicrous as your heretical belief that if Mary had said "no" to God Jesus would not have been born! God is much more intelligent than you catholics give Him credit for being. Satan is a liar. The Bible is the final authority.
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 @bella50008 The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
Gatta9 1 year ago
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@bella5000The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 It is important to point out that the Catholic Church has never made any false prophecies, nor has she ever erred on doctrinal and theological issues. Some Catholics may have, but the Church, particularly the pope, never has.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ...The CC has indeed erred significantly in doctrine- ESPECIALLY the pope!
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 Wrong again ..please furnish me with the times Charles Taze Russell predicted the end of this system .Explain to me why Mr Charles Taze Russell is buried under a pyramid?Please tell me about Greber
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 @bella50008 Wrong again ..please furnish me with the times Charles Taze Russell predicted the end of this system .Explain to me why Mr Charles Taze Russell is buried under a pyramid?Please tell me about Greber
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ...I can tell you about Jesus. Wanna hear about Him?
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 by all means please tell me about Jesus or aka Michael the Archangel
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ..are you calling Jesus and Michael the Archangel one and the same person?
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 Are you?
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ...Absolutely not. Jesus created Michael. But you catholics lump all these paganistic practices together. Unbelievable.
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 If Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel, how can Mt 25:31 say, "When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and ALL the angels with him, ...". Since "all the angels" would certainly include Michael the Archangel, is it possible that Jesus could return with himself?
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ...ok ...you're confusing me as to what you really mean. I do NOT believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael.
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 I know him better than you can possibly imagine bella with 2000 years and the Apostolic sucession Jesus himself established .what can you possibly teach me?
Gatta9 1 year ago
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@bella50008 The Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation falsely prophesied that the end of the world would happen in 1914; that the earthly resurrection would occur in 1925; and again that the world would likely end in 1975. They have since retracted these prophesies, but they did officially and publicly proclaimed them at one time.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 OH BUT I FORGOT THE LIGHT IS GETTING BRIGHTER :)
I DONT THINK SO RUSSELLITE
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 ... I have no idea what you mean. Much speaking - no truth.
bella50008 1 year ago
@bella50008 more like much truth and no listen...
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 that is the correct title the origin of your sect derives from Charles Taze Russell..therefore youre a russellite
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 Scripture itself denies that it is the only rule of faith. The last verse of St. John's Gospel tells us that not all concerning Our Lord's work is contained in Scripture.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-@bella50008 St. Paul tells us over and over again that much of Christian teaching is to be found in tradition. One who clings to the reading of the Bible only might be able to cite hundreds of texts yet not know Christian doctrine by any means. In fact, the adoption of the Bible only has led to as many opinions as there are men amongst non-Catholics.
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-@bella50008 Finally, Scripture tells us most clearly that the Catholic Church is the rule of faith, that Church which Christ sent to teach all nations and which He commanded men to hear and obey. He who believes in Scripture as his only guide ends by believing in his own mistaken interpretations of the Bible, and that means that he ends by believing in himself.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 The Catholic Church was built by Christ and upon Christ before a line of the New Testament was written. She received her doctrine immediately from the lips of Christ, and is safeguarded from error in her teaching by the Holy Spirit. Between 40 and 80 years after her foundation, some of her members wrote the Books of the New Testament. If the Gospels were the only rule of faith, then before they were written there could have been no Christian rule of faith at all!
Gatta9 1 year ago
@bella50008 As always, you speak the truth in Christ's holy name.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Where did your BIBLE come from?
Gatta9 1 year ago
What kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence? This represents about 53% of the time they have existed!
Gatta9 1 year ago
If the name "Jehovah" is so important, then why does Acts 4:12 say, "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name [v10 Jesus Christ] under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved"? Would this not have been the logical place for God to have used the name "YHWH"?
Gatta9 1 year ago
If the name Jehovah is so important, then why is it never used in the entire Greek New Testament? If men edited out the name of God, "YHWH" when they copied the New Testament, as only the Watchtower organization claims, then how can we have any confidence in any of the New Testament? Should we discard the New Testament or the Watchtower organization as unreliable?
Gatta9 1 year ago
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
3-They regard all organized churches and their clergy as agents of Satan, but entertain a special hatred of the Catholic Church, regarding the Pope as the Beast predicted by Daniel and St. John. Their exegetical gymnastics in the interpretation of mystical texts is astonishing. Meantime they claim to have originated in 1874, which is just 1874 years too late for one who seeks the Church actually established by Christ
Gatta9 1 year ago
2- Their religion is based upon the conjecture that Christ's second coming is imminent. They pay little or no attention to the obvious things in Scripture, but concentrate upon one point in particular which Christ purposely left obscure, saying, "It is not given to man to know these things."
Gatta9 1 year ago
The "Witnesses of Jehovah" merely constitute a form of that sect known as the Russellites. They have no evidence whatever that Jehovah ever asked them to be His witnesses. The Russellites were named after Pastor Charles T. Russell, an American who started a new form of Protestantism.
Gatta9 1 year ago
I am so glade that God took Sis. Charlotte out of this false church and into a Apostolic oneness church, i will continue to pray that God will lead more catholics from this false church and into a Acts 2:38 church in JESUS NAME.
MrJesusonly1 1 year ago
@MrJesusonly1 Amen! There are so many verses in scripture that contradict RCC theology Rom 4:5 utterly condemns the System of salvation by masses penance priests etc, bible teaches that salvation is gift of God not of works & this gift is freely given by God to those who trust in the merits of Christ's finished work on Calvary, the RCC SYSTEM is a demonic counterfeit to keep the lost RCs on the broad road to hell
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Wrong If you check the Greek, it doesn't say "THAT faith," it says "THE faith." The words "that faith" are a Protestant invention, since Protestants are desperate to distinguish between two types of faith, "saving" and "non-saving." James isn't addressing the "type" of faith.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-@kiwichristian2009 He is addressing whether the person who says he has faith will now add works to that faith. If he does not add works, it does not mean that he has no faith. It only means that he refuses to add works, and thus he cannot be saved.
Gatta9 1 year ago
1-@kiwichristian2009 We know that we are sinners (Rom 3:23, 1 John 1:8) that God saves; and we know that nothing impure can enter heaven (Rev 21:27). We are told that without holiness no-one will see the Lord (Heb 12:14). So between death and heaven there must be some sort of purification.
Gatta9 1 year ago
2-@kiwichristian2009 Catholics call that purgatory.
The Church doesn’t teach that the purification takes time or occurs in a place.
Best Biblical evidence is 2 Macc 12:42-25, where we are told it is a holy and pious thought to pray for the dead.
Jews still pray for the dead, via the mourner’s Qaddish, prayed for 11 months after a loved one’s death.
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-@kiwichristian2009 Onesiphorus — In 2 Tim. 1:16-17, Paul says, "May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, because he often refreshed me and was not ashamed of my chains; when he arrived in Rome, he eagerly searched for me and found me." It's interesting that Paul asked for mercy for Onesiphorus's household, but not for Onesiphorus himself.
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-@kiwichristian2009 Then Paul proceeded to eulogize Onesiphorus. It seems rather clear that Onesiphorus was dead, and that Paul was recalling his faithful service. Then Paul says, "May the Lord grant that he will find mercy from the Lord on that day!" (2 Tim. 1:18). This could well be a prayer for the dead.
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-@kiwichristian2009 Then Paul proceeded to eulogize Onesiphorus. It seems rather clear that Onesiphorus was dead, and that Paul was recalling his faithful service. Then Paul says, "May the Lord grant that he will find mercy from the Lord on that day!" (2 Tim. 1:18). This could well be a prayer for the dead.
Gatta9 1 year ago
My friends, I hope the information i have presented has helped to show you the truth. That you only need believe on the Lord Jesus with all your heart to be saved.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
@kiwichristian2009 kiwi didnt I challenge your position and you declined to discuss it lIVE?
Gatta9 1 year ago
Mary worship? In the Bible you can only find how God hates the Queen of Heaven.
The eucharist? In the Bible you can only find how God said don't drink blood.
Purgatory? The word and concept are not in the Bible.
Co-redemptrix? In the Bible you find there is only ONE Redeemer and Saviour. His name is Jesus.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
@kiwichristian2009 It would be the greatest possible injustice to regard her as a goddess. It is just to honor her even as God has honored her, which we Catholics do. Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords, and His mother certainly possesses queenly dignity, holding the highest place in Heaven next to her Divine Son. But that does not, and cannot change her finite and created human nature. To regard her as a goddess would be absurd.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@Gatta9 Show me in the Bible anything or anywhere where mary is even suggested as being "queen of heaven". Actually, quote me the verse or verses that mention a "queen of heaven", please.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Christ is the principal mediator in His own right. Mary is a secondary mediatrix, through, with, and in Christ. Without Him she would have no power, and therefore He is the source of all mediation with God on behalf of men.
Gatta9 1 year ago
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@Gatta9 .."Christ is the principal mediator in His own right. Mary is a secondary mediatrix, through, with, and in Christ. Without Him she would have no power, and therefore He is the source of all mediation with God on behalf of men."
Mary is not a secondary mediator - there is no such thing. Period. Jesus is absolutely, categorically, infinitely ALL the mediation man will ever need with God. Period.
bella50008 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 It follows from the doctrine of the Communion of Saints. Remember that, by Baptism, every Christian is incorporated with Christ. St. Paul says, "Christ is the head; ye are the members." So close is this union that Christ says, "Whoever gives you to drink a cup of water in my name, because you belong to me; amen, I say to you, he shall not lose his reward." Mk. IX., 40. Every Christian is Christ in a most intimate way.
Gatta9 1 year ago
3-@kiwichristian2009 St. Paul tells us that if a baptized person sins, he takes the members of Christ and makes them the members of iniquity! When that same St. Paul was persecuting the Christians before his conversion, Christ appeared to him and said, "Saul, Saul, why persecutest Thou Me?"
Gatta9 1 year ago
4-@kiwichristian2009 He did not say, "Why persecutest thou My disciples?" He could equally say, when we pray to Mary or to the saints, "What asketh thou of Me?" When we honor Our Lady or the Saints, we honor, not their own merely human and created nature, but we honor Christ in them according to the doctrine of Scripture. The Catholic Church is the only completely scriptural Church.
Gatta9 1 year ago
The Bible says that Jesus died ONCE for ALL sin. The catholic church DENY this and sacrifices Him again and again in the satanic mass.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
the origins of this change came from a man who was not even POPE! Catholics believe what nuns and brothers write is truth & quote it. one such man wrote how hard it was to accept that after Jesus forgave him & he sinned again for his soul to still be saved. thus, he wrote that surely we had to pay off these post-believer debts to enter heaven, even if in purgatory. Carmelites pray all day to get GOD to remove the dead to heaven out of purgatory & hope their convent suffering will save someone!
kathyelda 2 years ago
@kathyelda I know. they sacrifice Jesus again and again, therefore calling God a liar. Carmelites are offending God and doing the work of Satan. There no purgatory. God clearly teaches there is only two options when you die. Heaven,, or Hell. My God is not a God of confusion.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
basically, the girls get up before dawn to pray for others, then go to bed, get up and do it again, then get dressed and brush their teeth, etc. then they pray and eat, only certain foods, then pray more. near the end of the day they get free time to write home, read letters, sing, play instruments, and talk. the higherup sisters are segregated at this time, so you can talk with the group you are in, not higher or lower of the 2. on HOLY days they eat fish, cookies too, saved any you send for it
kathyelda 2 years ago
Plus the physical and sexual abuse, according to many ex-nuns. All this work they do blindly and in ignorance of what God really wants from them.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
i made sure to tell my buddy that when she went in...and she said she would leave if they did. so far, no sexual abuse. also, another friend was temporarily out of another type of convent. i sat with her and wrote a full day in her monastic life. she too had no "abuse"...but hers had no meat! i could NEVER live without pepperoni pizza! someone actually brought some to my Carmelite friends!
kathyelda 2 years ago
Ah, ok. I must admit i may be generalizing here, but from the testimonies i have listened to by ex-nuns and ex-priests, pedophilia, homosexuality and sexual abuse of nuns is prevalent, to the point where _I_ would class it as "the norm".
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
hence the death rate of catholic priests from AIDS is FOUR times the national average.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
we must be careful that we don't scare people with exaggerations...the Truth is enough, nothing else needed.
yes! young nuns and priests in training have openly told me that there are issues with homosexuals having taken over the seminaries...even to the point that a "straight' young Catholic is almost shunned and made to feel like he should not be there.
they blame a LOT of it on the bad version of the Bible that came out in the 1960's, and glow that the new one is not in that err.
kathyelda 2 years ago
the newest English version of the Catholic Bible fixes some places that were left up to interpretation.
one example given me, which i can't recall, was far more like ours in the new one and obviously a problem in the 1960's one.
also, my buddy ALMOST went to visit a nunnery once she concidered joinging that she read about online, but a good priest warned her they were bad nuns...homosexuals!
kathyelda 2 years ago
another thing is that they can leave anytime for 6 years. they also can be kicked out during that time. that is sort of what happened to the girl from the other type of nunnery, but after a period back here, she was allowed to return...and she wanted to really badly. she missed it.
kathyelda 2 years ago
also, you can always beware of any group that keeps you from outside communication, keeps you from getting enough food or sleep, and keeps you busy with prayers or other chanting.
some say nuns don't have time to read the Bible for all the praying...and some say people of Islam don't have time to think for the same reasoning.
kathyelda 2 years ago
To whom do they pray?
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
ususally i think it is Mary. sometimes Saints, and perhaps even God on occassion?
most is wasted because it is for the dead to be set out of purgatory.
some is for those they know who need prayer...like friends they hear are sick with cancer....
but in their suffering they think it will like Jesus' suffering cover sins of others...
when i was in hospital she told me to give my suffering up to God...that is what she meant, but she didn't know i didn't understand.
kathyelda 2 years ago
also, if you ask a Catholic who loves God and goes to mass if they are going to heaven, they will say i hope so. that is because they don't KNOW that they are freed from all sin by the blood of Jesus when they repent their sins and believe every word of GOD.
kathyelda 2 years ago
The Mass itself is blasphemy.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
have you ever been to a mass?
it is different...
they pray to Mary,
why not pray to the Father, in the name of Jesus as He said we now could??
kathyelda 2 years ago
No, i already disappoint God in my sinful life more than enough without disobeying Him by attending a pagan ceremony.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
may i then suggest searching online to see if you can find a Catholic church's latin mass...all masses at churches can be different, the latin is less common now.
then you can observe without attendance and understand exactly where it is wrong and write of that.
without observation of others we can't know...don't worship with them, just observe.
remember the pantheon?
i see you are very religious people, some once said...the unknown god was one of many.
by observing a couple got saved!
kathyelda 2 years ago
@kiwichristian2009 The Eucharist is a re-presentation of the one sacrifice at Calvary and transcends time. Christ is not re-crucified in the Mass.
Heb 9:22 says that shedding of blood is required for forgiveness of sins, but Jesus says the cup of his blood is poured out for forgiveness of sins, so Jesus personally united the unbloody last supper with his sacrifice on the cross.
Heb 9:25-26 talks about bloody "Jewish" sacrifices; the Eucharist is unbloody.
Gatta9 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 See Heb 9:23 - "Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these rites, but the heavenly things themselves need better sacrifices than these" (note the plural).
Gatta9 1 year ago
This antichrist corrupts the Word Of God, removing those commandments that may cause doubt in his church. Actually removes and adds to the bible when we are warned in the Bible NOT to alter any word in it or change it in any way.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
did you know that other churches change the WORD and cut out bits too?
an example is a popular church for homosexuals that told its members NOT to read certain portions of the old and New Testaments...the parts that talked about it being a sin, they used to be killed for any immoral sexual sin, but how they could stop and now even be forgiven by Jesus! one read it, now goes to my church!
many people don't bother to read the Book, some who even say they do...even those in Seminary!
kathyelda 2 years ago
I agree. I am focussing more on the RCC as i feel it promotes and commits the most heresies against God. But they are not unique. I am also not condemning the catholics themselves, but the church. The sodomite translators of the NIV completely removed the word "sodomite" from the bible. The bible says that he who thinks evil is as bad as someone who does it, so for the RCC to say sodomites are ok as long as they dont DO IT are wrong.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
there seems to be a great temptation for all those in ministry, priest and pastor...any church.
i think it is as it was for bill clinton, power and thinking they can't be caught.
then after they are, the Evilone who tricked them into that act now says to them "now you will lose your ministry and never be able to save a soul again."
too anyone who reads this who did such a sin, know GOD can forgive you, and He can still use you...ignore the Devil's lies.
God rules! and uses flawed tools.
kathyelda 2 years ago
Yes, God can forgive and use the worst of sinners. The old "me' was a terrible sinner and a dreadful, self-hatred-filled person. God forgave me, and i have been able to forgive myself. The sinful thoughts of my past are still there and are still classed as sin, but they don't control or rule my life now and God has forgiven me once and for all.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
see that is the great thing of knowing...
Jesus can forgive each person for his sins, no matter what kind, and even though we can expect to be punnished for breaking the world's laws on earth, in the afterlife we who repented will not perish but live with the LORD in a place without hate, without murder, without lies!
Christians are not perfect, only GOD is.
We need not brag, we did nothing to earn redemption, Jesus offered it.
Anyone can get in heaven, but only by the same door.
kathyelda 2 years ago
Yes. Unfortunatly the pope says HE is the door, or door-keeper and that salvation is impossible outside the catholic church. I just tell people to open the Bible and read it. Thats all they need to do to find the truth. If an organisation or church says anything contrary to the word of God, then have no fellowship with it.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
a good idea may be to open the Bible and read it to them with them there...or ask them to read it and hand it to them (if you know they can read) because most people will say they will look it up and don't. most people say to a suffering person "oh, i will pray for you" and don't...they are busy and forget.
kathyelda 2 years ago
no, we no not profess to be perfect or indeed better than anyone else. I am a terrible sinner and there is nothing good in me that comes from me. I sin every single day in one way or another. it is ONLY through the blood of Jesus Christ that i am saved.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
you know what?
at a Carmelite MEN's monestary in Oregon a man there asked me if i were perfect!
he looked so sad when i said no.
we talked for hours on the Scriptures with a couple other brothers and he just sucked in the Truth...i don't think he has had access to the Word, and my pastor explains things so well!
when the head priest arrived, it ended.
please pray for those who seek God, but don't know where to seek.
kathyelda 2 years ago
I am not surprised. The Bible contricts most, if not all of catholic traditions and dogmas. I pray that these people will indeed find the truth and i pray that we are able to witness to them.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
i think it is not goodthat they add to their religion from other paegan religions, and that is where they get off...the reasoning is that the people are used to certain godesses and traditions, so add them in and clean them up and the people can tollerate Christianity.
i know one Catholic with a sad life who praises that about his religion.
he thinks he knows more than any protestant and yells a lot...his mom was living with a woman and it made him hurt so much.
kathyelda 2 years ago
it would be so hard to remove all the icons, saints that were never Christians but paegans that were added on (yes, it is true), and all the fake holidays.
perhaps instead of Easter and Christmas, we all should worship Jesus and celebrate His birth and resurection on some other days...quietly pass along a date!
no Santa either...he can stay on the 25th.
kathyelda 2 years ago
have a good night!
kathyelda 2 years ago
According to the Bible, only God the Father is to be called "holy father", yet this antichrist accepts this title and allows people to worship him and kiss his feet as they did for the Lord Jesus Christ. Thereby making himself equal with God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Also by saying that there is no salvation outside of him or his church. He Also says you must earn your way to heaven, yet God says "Through the deeds of the law shall no man be justified".
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
sadly, many atheists in my area are former Catholics...they were told all other churches are false, so they don't even seek a better truthful church, they just hate Christians period.
i have warned some Catholics of this problem...they are making it by saying this.
kathyelda 2 years ago
I can understand that. With all the ceremonies, blasphemies, lies and contradictions that the catholic church promote, its enough to drive anyone to athesiesm!
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago
sad.
some young Catholics DO read the Bible, and know that there are major problems with their church and monestaries today.
pray they find the Truth and change it completely...you know, a 'Roman Church Makeover"!
kathyelda 2 years ago
Yes. Start begin with the Bible, then ( i am assuming here ) they get brainwashed into believing church doctrine and history OVER the Bible. I agree, we must pray that these lost people come out of the RCC.
kiwichristian2009 2 years ago 2
i know that during a mass, they read a portion of the old testament, the new, and a psalm. that way they do go through their entire Bible in a year. however, although they can claim to have read it by this, they just chant through it quickly and don't stop and learn about that portion in depth.
SOME priests, just as some pastors, are better than others at preaching, and i find Roman Catholic isn't as good as Orthodox...my opinion.
kathyelda 2 years ago
@kiwichristian2009 yes read the bible..the hand book of war...rape..and pillage! LUKE 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. THE CATHOLICS ARE WRONG? NO THE CATHOLICS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!! YOU JEW WORSHIPERS WILL PAY FOR YOURE CRIMES!!!! YOU ARE ALL EVIL!!!
WORLDARYANREVIVAL 1 year ago
@WORLDARYANREVIVAL The Catholics are sincerely wrong and you have the nerve to bring scripture in ?! What about thou shall not have any other gods before me ? Do not the Catholics worship Mary as if she is the queen of heaven ?? That was a proverb by the way and of course it is true but your slightly taking it out of context.
joseph941000able 1 year ago