Politically Incorrect, Male Birth Control/ Pregnancy Part 1

[ZZKe7]

"I do not know a single woman who would trust a man to take a pill every day" Wooooooo!

Well, it's about ten years on and this male pill didn't take off. So we're still relying on women to take their pill. And they're still forgetting all the fucking time

[BlindMansEye]

since having safe sex and staying "unpregnant" is the responsibility of TWO ppl, obviously, i would want my bf to get this pill if he expects the same for me. but i would stay on birth control and have condoms within reach at ALL times nonetheless not because i don't trust him but because i have to be actively involved too.

[omnissience]

@BlindMansEye Will you then demonstrate for the male pill being payed for by the health insurances like the female pill is? Because if the answer is no it's just clear again where feminists position is on these matters as an all matters.

[BlindMansEye]

@omnissience i would advocate for the male pill to be paid for by health insurances like the female one since i think it's one of those things that is very important and can result in a lot of potential health, economic, and social problems if precautions aren't taken. as far as i'm concerned, there should be condom dispensers on street corners like in france and they should be free.

[ProfessorPoopy]

anyone know when this aired?

[theyforcedmetosignup]

I have known women to lie to men about their birth control routines to get pregnant, just like I have known men to lie to women about their STD status to get lied.

Male, female, human beings can be pieces of shit on both sides.

[jmitnick210]

What a douce bag, mangina, masochist boot-licker Corey Feldman is, being against the male birth control, in anticipation of the clap trap for siding with the chicks that were against it.

The wrong Corey died.

[IAmIntelligence]

Study Tantric Sex, also

study Latex condoms.. there were

studies that a Latex Engineers did

I cannot remember the name of the studies,

but do some research you'll find lot's of information

you didn't know even existed about sex.

[Turtleman7007]

I would bet massive amounts that 99% of guys will remember EVER DAY lol. A male pill is a dream come true for most guys

[ashleighxeltentat]

maybe what ppl need is to ALL (male and female) be sterilized and the ONLY way to breed is the couple (two people no matter the sex) go to a lab and have they're DNA taken and combined by licences doctors, then the baby grown in an artificial womb! LAWL :D

[note4note]

I love how each and every woman on this panel decides men are too stupid to take a pill each day, because clearly no man has ever had their life or well being dependant on the daily intake of a drug. I wasn't aware you could throw around double standard sexism on public tv and so easily get away with it.

Why is it so easy for women to take huge shits on men as a whole gender and people laugh, but make one comment about PMS on tv and you'd be blacklisted within the week?

[Yesiamblind]

3:17 "You don't need to be a doctor." LOL! You are the man, Bill.

[IAmIntelligence]

The women on this panel are taking

sides, a serious discussion means

nobody takes sides unless they agree

with one another.

[IAmIntelligence]

Also not to mention we have to constantly kiss women's asses.. and women want us to take better care of ourselves but how's possible because American Society is for the Filthy Rich And for treating women like they are the most important thing on the face of the Earth.

[IAmIntelligence]

I wish women would care about us, this show is old,.. but women today are still all about complete control over men. Men do not need anymore sexual oppression our sexual health has been ruined. Men in America have higher chances of developing prostate cancer, blood clots in the penis, they have a way lower sperm count than normal, and for the most part have small or average penises. The solution is have sex without the condom, there is natural birth control, and dsease control.

[22akinf]

@IAmIntelligence

'The solution is have sex without the condom, there is natural birth control, and dsease control.'

Are you serious?

[IAmIntelligence]

@22akinf Yep, but you might have to have to stop dating caucasian women. because they

usually are not as intelligent, or just don't care about our health.

[TheSorrow1O1]

@IAmIntelligence

Natural Birth Control ? Are you fucking kidding me ?

Is your so called Natural Birth Control...pulling out ?

[IAmIntelligence]

@TheSorrow1O1 I'm sorry... but I cannot believe

how so many people are sexually uneducated, your

body is an electrical chemical machine, that operates

according to the laws of nature.. which are easily realized

once you get to know yourself better. I mean look at our

economy and how it's been trashed.... does bought and

paid for ring any bells, and the sex thing and birth control

if we realized are true sexual intelligence, we wouldn't have

talk about this crap, and the economy so much.

[TheSorrow1O1]

@IAmIntelligence

You still haven't explained what 'Natural Birth Control' is so why don't you stop calling people uneducated and answer the question.

[IAmIntelligence]

@TheSorrow1O1 People are uneducated.. and I did

answer the question, the only way I know how you just

don't understand..... natural birth control is getting to know

your body, and learning how a woman's body works,

tantric sex shows men how to hold every drop of sperm

inside until they choose to release it, that includes pre-cum

and yeah that's sort of a pull out method.

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[yoshu89]

"Never trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die"

[bweazel]

Hahaha, women are so fucked in the head these days. "Because women are the ones that get pregnant". Ummmm... ladies.... we have a part in that too, also in raising the kid after.

I'm glad there is a man's pill. This isn't about who is going to take it, and who is going to protect who, these women are very sexist to only be talking about it from a woman's point of view (typical, it's hard for narcissists to empathize).

This is about men protecting ourselves from you all. Get it?

[OniNoFro]

@bweazel

This is how it works in their brains... since they're the ones that get pregnant, their opinion's are the only ones. Never mind that it takes two to tango... except when monetary support is required then that deadbeat better be ready with his wallet!

Women have choice at every opportunity. Men have "no sex or sex w/condom and hope she values my opinion". A male birth control option would change this dynamic, balancing it, and it scares the shit out of them.

[Mokurentate]

@OniNoFro

A test should be required in order to have kids.

[OniNoFro]

@Mokurentate

I would agree with this if not for the risk of significantly diminishing genuine human rights when we are already at risk. To understand what I mean, consider the easiest way to control who gets to have kids is to determine the access to the test to have kids. It would add another layer of classist issues when judicially, as men, our rights are often ignored or suppressed. In a society where feminism is entrench on social and governmental levels, that would be suicide...

[wgnwheel1]

yet for thousands or years, women have relied on the man to bring home the money. And men will NEVER intentionally knock up a woman and have to deal with that mouth for 18 years. so woman it isn't an issue, you take your pill and we take ours. Guaranteed that 99% of the men would take that pill every day and probably twice a day just to make sure. You just want to be able to trap that wealthy one to put you on easy street for 18 yrs. I see THAT all the time.

[barcodenation42]

did corey feldman suggest teflon coating a vagina? eww... 

[kitschrecords]

What a load of shite, women don't need to rely on men to take it, they can still take their own pill, it's that simple. it's about men having the same options and personal control over parenthood.There is a much bigger issue. Looks like plenty of switched on men up here. Thank you Warren Farrell, thank you Paul Elam, thank you Marc Rudov, thank you Tom Leykis, thank you manwomanmyth, thank you Christina Hoff Sommers, thank you Glenn Sacks, thankyou YouTube. Cory go f*&%# yourself piss ant.

[thepurpleclown]

Corey has a MAAAAANGIIIIINA! COREY HAS A MAAAAAANGIIIIINA!

[vitorcenturioalmeida]

Sexual-marginals control social communication in America and Europe.

this is decadence.

[unclefixer]

Well durgaa its too late for me, I'm up to grandkids, but it will be nice to see my son have the choice and that he make that choice wisely. Yes get a good women, both of you decide when and were to become parents. Being a dad or mom is rewarding if you are ready for it. so be ready.

[durgaaa]

Hey, B O T H genders take your pills ! ! ! ! Then there is DOUBLE protection against stupid mistakes.

[unclefixer]

First having a child is not a decision that should be made only by the mother. Kids need parents, both parents. A male pill would take away that monopoly women have enjoyed for 40 years. And yes, women do force men into becoming parents and use the corrupt system to steal from men to support this unwise act. Kid are wonderful, I would not take for mine, but it would have been nice to get to decide when they came along. WE need to go back to marriage and what was originally intended.

[durgaaa]

@unclefixer - If you want to decide when your children are allowed to be gestated, then wear DOUBLE condoms - at All Times. Also, keep company with responsible women who actually can discuss serious matters with the opposite gender.

[SweetSailorM]

Can anyone tell me what episode of Arrested Developement that is in the begining?

[pownjhell]

@SweetSailorM season 2, episode 5, "sad sack"

[SweetSailorM]

@pownjhell Thank You! ^_^

[TheSpazzofMuffins]

"I wouldn't trust him,"

So he's supposed to trust you, when you wont even return the favour? Fucking Misandrists.

[clone63742]

fix your vcr,lol :)

[OniNoFro]

The doctor is confusing the issue...

ultimately, women have final say... but for some reason the idea of options existing all the way up to that final say offend them (mmm mmm misandry). Girls: the male pill isn't for you; it's for us (men in case that's too abstract). If you don't trust the man, then use your options (your pills) and demand condoms with your partners. Leave it to us to also use our options as well as condoms.

[DrinkSkateSleep]

Who gives a fuck about this "sexist" shit.. Women are bitches and men are dicks. End of story.

[n0s1r]

Women do not like this pill, and I will tell you why. It gives men the option to say "no, you are not going to hook your mitts around my wallet for the next 18 years".

End of story.

[TheSpazzofMuffins]

@n0s1r So true, it's sad.

[seanth014]

these women are beyond sexist they are bigots...women trick guys on getting themselves pregnant all the fuking time!!!

[TairyGreen89]

@seanth014 I know they don't trust men to take the pill, so why the fuck should we trust them.

[dracpcpp]

woo arrested development!!!

but yeah, male pill = good.

[NearTheReviewer]

this is completely sexist.

some women lie about the pill to get pregnant and trap there boyfriends(which most of the time doesn't work because they end up leaving them)

to me the male birth pill would decrease the rate of unwanted pregnancy's by A LOT

[Lemons180]

Finally, WTF, how have I managed to type a freaking essay on this topic on YouTube?

[Lemons180]

Also, if you're in a relationship where you can't trust the man to take care of contraception and take birth control issues seriously - you probably shouldn't be having sex with him in the first place.

[Lemons180]

Having birth control for those of both genders gives both power to take control of contraception and to avoid a pregnancy. But then again, they both already have that power - men can just use condoms while women use birth control pills. It basically means men won't have to wear a condom in a monogamous relationship (where they're both free of STIs) to avoid a pregnancy.

[Lemons180]

5:20 Sooo unfair of her to make that generalisation - how patronising and sexist can you get?! You can't compare handling contraception and birth control to forgetting groceries.

There are loads of couples who trust each other to take contraceptives and many women would trust their partners to take it. She also talks as if it's only a problem with men, there are loads of women who forget to take the pill or lie about it so that they can get pregnant.

[Lemons180]

5) So it could be fair to say, that many men will feel they can get away with being irresponsible and not taking a contraceptive pill and have less to lose in the case of an unwanted pregnancy.

Seriously though, either way, both men and women need to take care of contraception - even if someone says they're on the pill, use a damn condom.

[Lemons180]

4) Also, yes, the man has to put up with the consequences of an unwanted pregancy. But a man can easily run away from the baby, the woman cannot unless she aborts. It is to an extent, more difficult for the woman. E.g. if she gets pregnant after a one night stand and has no contact with the guy, she's pregnant and she may have to suffer the consequences while the guy may not even know!

[Lemons180]

3) So maybe the male contraceptive pill would probably be as effective (or as ineffective) as the female pill. You get females who are trustworthy and responsible enough to take contraceptives, etc. and you get females who are reckless enough to forget/not bother, or worse lie about taking the pill. Just like you'd get guys who would take it seriously and you'd get those who wouldn't bother.

[Lemons180]

2) Whatever the situation: even if the woman says she is on the pill, the man still needs to take care of his own contraception (especially in the case of one night stands, or other situations where they don't know each other well). If a woman gets pregnant, the guy could blame her for not taking the pill properly, and vice versa for when the male pill becomes available. But blaming the other won't change anything, there will still be an unborn child in the mix.

[Lemons180]

1) Ok, I hate the fact that 2 of the 3 women chosen for this are blatantly sexist. WHY don't they get reasonable women who will discuss this properly without throwing in misandrist comments - which obviously compromise their position.

But overall, I'm so annoyed that no one states the obvious - it's BOTH their reponsibilities! If you're gonna have sex, whatever your gender, use contraception! 

[mikecappa]

"because it's the woman who get's pregnant" but it's the man who GET'S her pregnant, and has to deal with an unwanted birth aswell. IT'S BOTH SIDES BITCHES!

[fai1t0liv3]

The Male pill is NOT a women's issue. If they don't trust us to take the pill, then they should take THEIR pill. The thing about the male pill is it is a sure fire way to keep from being a father before they are ready. It allows men to take control of their reproductive rights, that is all. It has nothing to do with women.

[mindround]

These are women that don't use any logic when trying to make their arguments and the one guy there is a total mangina that says whatever he thinks the chicks want to hear.

[ninjanerd8]

God, typical dumb bitch comment HURR DURR MEN CANT REMEMBER TO BRING DAH MILK LOL CLAP FOR MEEEE.

[VanillaLips]

My God, these comments. They make me weep.

Just how do women figure guys play less part in having a kid and just automatically end every argument about it with "STFU YOU DON'T KNOW OUR PAIN!" There's no "not sticking around" here, you pay for the child either way, unless the girl doesn't know your name, in which case, too slutty fucking bad. Men are there for all the same ups and downs as women are, and stuck with the mother in their life forever, so obv guys would REMEMBER just taking a pill.

[VanillaLips]

And fine, we carry the baby for nine months, yes. But we also ALWAYS make the decisions. I've never heard of a guy forcing a girl to abort; I have heard of many cases where the girl keeps the child though he really, really doesn't want it, and expects him to take responsibility.

[ninjanerd8]

These are what Bill refers to as arguments that 'make women nod' and he's absolutely right. When a woman says 'OMG YOU DONT KNOW A WOMAN'S PAIN LOL' it betrays an epic stupidity and ignorance. Hello this is the 21st century. They give you a spinal block and you don't feel a FUCKING THING. When a guy has to pass a rock through his penis they tell him to man up and piss the thing out. Do we bitch about women not being legally required to know the pain of war when one breaks out?

[linzzyy]

thanks for posting!!

[Jeremiy2]

good conversation here, but what about paying child support? Would a rich famous guy want that? Selfish right? Absolutly.

[daydreambeliever93]

Women like that that woman who said men couldn't remember to take birth control make all women and feminists look bad. Trust me, we're not ALL like that!

[shaycenter]

mtv girl is stunning !!!!

[jrdv86]

At 9:46 you can clearly see that "Doctor"'s blatant sexism. Even when it's presented to her on a platter, she doesn't see how fucking sexist she is being.

"No woman could trust a man to take this pill." --- CHEERS FROM THE WOMEN IN THE CROWD

"No man could trust a woman to <insert sexist comment" -- HUGE backlash! Cries of sexism all across the feminist organizations in the USA.

Utter bullshit. Women preach about equality but are never held accountable of their own sexism.

[MrJohnnyOldschool]

8:45 She says that she doesn't trust men to take birth control.

Okay, how about both the woman AND the man take the pill?

For fuck sakes, if you didn't trust a man to take the pill, then you can simply and easily take the pill yourself.

[VanillaLips]

If you don't trust a man to take the pill, you shouldn't sleep with him in the first place.

[jrdv86]

I love you.

[VanillaLips]

I try. :)

[MrJohnnyOldschool]

5:20 She just compared remembering to buy milk to caring and providing for a child for 18+ years.

Trust me, if men had a birth control pill, we'd use it. EVERY FUCKING DAY we'd use it. There is no way we'd forget it. it would be a dream come true. It would make women and men EQUAL.

Why are women so scared of men having the same rights they have?

It's because women don't want equality. They have NEVER wanted equality. They want power, and special privilege.

[jrdv86]

A-FUCKING MEN!

[daydreambeliever93]

I hope you don't think ALL women are like that. We're not all like that. I can't stand when women make jokes about how stupid or evil men are when in reality there are some things that I don't like about the majority of women and I am a woman! The fact is, we're all human and we should all be treated like equals. There will always be sexist men and sexist women and it's not fair to lump everyone into one category.

[mikecappa]

@MrJohnnyOldschool johnny old school, you know where it's at bro

[Lemons180]

@MrJohnnyOldschool

Easy now, don't go generalising all women just because of a sexist few on TV.

[carrierose1234]

@MrJohnnyOldschool someone peed in your cheerios.

[sameer137]

@MrJohnnyOldschool : But the good thing is that most men are smart enough to figure this out.

[whoatemyhummus]

@MrJohnnyOldschool Right on!

[MrJohnnyOldschool]

@whoatemyhummus :)

[OniNoFro]

@MrJohnnyOldschool

It's because many women feel it necessary to marginalize men whenever possible so of course she's going to distort the scale of buying groceries to the choice of controlling parenthood for one self (men). It's a clear statement on the value and perception of male competency.

The greatest irony in all of this is feminists and many women (who may or may not be feminists) are parroting the arguments which were attempted to prevent female birth control pills in the 60s and 70s.

[Labtop215]

@MrJohnnyOldschool

More people upped your comment than liked the video. = D

[MrJohnnyOldschool]

@Labtop215 *laughs* Well, there isn't much to like about the video unless you're a blind idiot.

[johnman1911]

@MrJohnnyOldschool This comment is so true. It is truth amongst truth. Men having birth control would be the best thing that has happened to men in a long time. I wish there were statistics on how many men were tricked into having babies using this lie women tell that they are on the pill when they are not. It happened to me and to a lot of people I know. I can't even believe how many people this has happened to. Ask your friends if a woman has ever lied to them about being on the pill.

[johnman1911]

Women don't care about men at all. Women try to paint men as dogs but look how women are. Women think men are atm machines.

[pete2778]

"The woman is the one who gets pregnant" Yep, granted, but the man is the one who's going to bear the lion's share of the financial obligation for about the next twenty years and have diminished legal rights if the relationship ends. I've been on courses of antibiotics before - I never forgot THOSE pills, how patronising and sexist do some women have to be before they're brought to task about it? There's certainly no justice and equality between the sexes on this issue!

[linzzyy]

the man would be expected to pay his share, but only if he sticks around

[pete2778]

I don't know a single woman who would keep taking the pill if she desperately wanted children even if her partner didn't. Several of my friends have been 'man-trapped' in this way.

[PRASFB]

I wouldn't trust a man to remember to take the pill every single day, just like I don't trust myself to take it every single day. But hey if your both taking it... I would like men would want to take the pill if they are concerned about unwanted pregnancy or thinks the woman is trying to get pregnant on purpose.

[jerryaltman]

Man's pill???? is that finasteride??? Háaa háaa háaa...

[RunToTheLight1986]

A man could just as easily say that he would take a male birth control pill because women cannot be trusted to take the female birth control pill (which they can't!). If a woman is taking birth control pills and decides she wants a baby she will stop taking the pills and get pregnant even if the man doesn't want children or hasn't decided if he wants children yet etc.

[kennit1000]

What a complete idiot that "doctor" is. She doesn't need to trust a man to take his pill if she's taking her own. Nothing about the MBCP suggests that the woman can't take her own.

She is a clown and on TV, no less!

[cheferabelo]

Man, I have to say... This show is quite interesting, but, come on! Real time is much better! I mean, the most of the guests are celebrities and some of their opinions were so stupid sometimes. I guess Bill is much comfortable right now! Amen!

[givewingstomytriumph]

MAN! That girl Monica starting to say what she said at 5:20 has to be one of the most sexist things i have ever heard!!. I mean i as a guy i think women wouldnt like it if i said a loud how *girls cant remember to do this or that* nobodie would probably laugh but when a girl says it then all of a sudden its true/funny?! O_o Well George Carlin said it best "Its the old american double standard"

[valjean76]

Crowley is a fool. MBCP is not about women. It is about men. It doesn't matter if she trusts men to take it or not.  It doesn't matter if she likes it or want it. It is not about her. If she doesn't trust it she can use one of her own 7+ different methods of BC. Why were 3 women and 2 men on the panel to discuss it?

[janart36]

this is silly, YES men should have the male birth control pill. If they don't trust each other what the hell are they doing with each other, also if you worry that one might forget then there's nothing wrong with both parties being on the pill. double protection. This is good, no more blam games.

[philvanyam]

Sweet!! Love the Arrested Development in the opening... One of the best shows ever!!!

[crangdaniel]

damn what stupid doctor, if women worry about trust than just take the pill also. stupid

[Q4Knowledge]

i love it when people fail to see that they're being sexist.

[jrdv86]

It's not just the doctor that fails to see she's being sexist. Every woman in the audience that cheered when she made that blatantly sexist comment about men not being reliable enough to take the pill also failed to see how sexist they were being. It's not just the dumb blonde, woman as a whole need to realize what they're demanding of men is not equal and is not fair.

[linzzyy]

when it comes right down to it, women wouldn't trust men to take the pill because men can't get pregnant. if a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, don't rely on the man to take the pill.

[jrdv86]

You realize that you're being incredibly sexist? "Wouldn't trust men to take the pill?" What kind of argument is that? It's on par with "I wouldn't trust women to drive safely?" Or "I don't like women having control over pregnancy because they don't have to pay child support."

Your argument is deeply rooted in sexism. Men take courses of antibiotics all the time, and they don't forget those pills. Honestly, I am not going to sit here and try to convince you men are just as capable as women.

[linzzyy]

@jrdv86

i am sorry if you think i am being sexist, it is not intentional. i am in no way implying men are "stupid" or "lazy".

men & women both drive cars... only women get pregnant, so i don't think your analogy fits.

i need to be personally responsible for my own body & my own future, therefore i wouldn't rely on another person to provide my birth control. i guess what i am trying to say is that, capable or not, it wouldn't matter if he was on the pill , because i am.

[jrdv86]

You talk like a woman getting pregnant becomes 100% the woman's problem. If ONLY that were true. Then your argument would make some kind of sense.

You're pretending that you were arguing whether or not women should stop taking their own birth control. That's not the issue that was raised.

And you know what? If you argue that you couldn't trust your man for any reason, especially with something with such serious consequences, then perhaps you should CROSS YOUR FUCKING LEGS AND FIND ANOTHER MAN

[linzzyy]

"And you know what? If you argue that you couldn't trust your man for any reason, especially with something with such serious consequences, then perhaps you should CROSS YOUR FUCKING LEGS AND FIND ANOTHER MAN"

not at all what I said and watch your mouth.

I never said that I couldn't/wouldn't trust a man for anything. It isn't a matter of trust, but a matter of personal responsibility. When I get into a car, I don't trust others to be safe drivers, I put on my seat belt.

[jrdv86]

Wow, dude. For like the 100th time:

The issue raised here is NOT if women should stop taking their own birth control. They presented the idea of male birth control and it's response by the female and sexist doctor was "It's the biggest joke going because no woman would trust a man to take their pill."

NOBODY ASKED IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP TAKING YOUR PILL OR PUT ON YOUR OWN SEATBELT. NOBODY.

[linzzyy]

time to take your meds

[jrdv86]

When people begin ad hominem attacks it's a sign they realize their argument is weak. Did you know?

Let me know when you're ready to cede the woman on the show was out of line and the comment she made was sexist. And that every woman in the audience who cheered her blatantly sexist comment is just as guilty.

[mizakzee]

@Q4Knowledge just wait till you meet people who know they're being sexist. the good thing is, some of them don't realize that they're not sexist. one girl i know says women are superior. she doesn't proclaim it, she just believes it, yet she still respects men when it comes down to basic humanity, it confuses me too.

[billywillyjilly]

i wouldn't boo if bill called that doctor a bitch and told her to get in the kitchen.

[cookimonstizzle]

Crowley's sexist.

Men are not idiots- like we can't remember to take it?

Bill is right- it is so insulting. And the double standard is ridiculous, they'd boo if someone said a woman couldn't remember, but cheer because she said a man couldn't remember.

[Surreal469]

exactly! A guy will remember because we'd have to PAY FOR THE KID FOR 18 YEARS! one of our biggest fears is to knock up a woman. You damn right we'd remember! It'd be the 1st thing we do that day! lol

[cookimonstizzle]

Well I personally look forward to kids, but I agree if I wasn't ready, it'd be the first thing I'd do that day :b

[annpetasupporter]

I get what you're saying cookimon, and I agree, but it's the whole thing about it's US that would be getting pregnant, not them, and I wouldn't trust anyone (male or female) to take it and remember when they wouldn't be the ones getting pregnant if they forgot, it would be me, you know? I do think it's a good idea though. We can never have too many different birth control options if you ask me...

[jrdv86]

Your argument holds no water. If the male took birth control that doesn't mean you'd have to stop taking yours. I like how you can't trust others in the department of pregnancy, but have no issue forcing the male to trust you won't purposely get pregnant because you want a child. Especially since you won't be the one forced to pay child support until the child is 18 years old. Your mentality is not fair to men, it's not equal, and it needs to change.

[annpetasupporter]

That's true. I wouldn't have to stop taking mine. That's a good point. What do you mean I take no issue forcing a male to trust me? I'm not forcing him to do anything. It's not my fault there is no birth control besides condoms. It's usually the guy who doesn't want to wear one, not me. Like I said, I think male birth control is a good idea.

[annpetasupporter]

Also, women do have to pay child support if they're not the ones with custody and they are more likely to actually pay it in full. I'll site that study later when I get home and can look it up in a book I have. You came off awefully aggressive and made many assumptions.

[iamhelpless]

c'mon beat those bitches bill!