The ONLY thing I agree with Mike Bickle about is that women are weaker spiritually. It's the same Jesus living in a woman, the SAME Holy Spirit as in a man. Women might be smaller physically but they are GIANTS in the spirit realm. Other than this, Mike Bickle got it goin' on.
Bickle hasn't a clue what anyone needs to do with regard to their spiritual well-being. If he could just bring himself to stop meddling in other people's lives and tend to his own house, he would be more than busy for the rest of his earthly days.
@danglesnipesdaniel why r u pasting this same message on all if mikes messages?? He is a follower of the lord and I know that he has recieved knowledge from the lord and the rapture is coming. Fix ur eyes upon Jesus Hebrews 12. Dude we all must be ready for when Jesus comes back, I don't know u but I love you like a brother in Christ.
Why should I believe most of this "religion" or "spirituality" stuff? There's no REASON. No REASONS based on REAL EVIDENCE. There's no facts here. No scientific facts. My dad watches these Bickle videos all day. I don't understand it. I like how he talks about getting identity right and establishing it in truth but I know he doesn't know what truth really means. Religion isn't truth. Spirituality isn't truth. The scientific method has proved to be a much better way of getting at truth.
Where do people make this stuff up from. I'm full immersed in IHOP-KC and have been for many years. I have a full time carrier, spend holidays with my Methodist family members and do outreach to places like Haiti and the inner city in both practical help and evangelic outreaches. No one is ever encouraged, let alone forced to cut ties with the outside world or family members.
They do not cut theirselves from society & neither do they have any "kool-aid" to offer. I have plenty of messages on my Ipod & visited a few times myself.On the other hand they do have plenty ministries for outreach both community & internationally. Fasting & a contemplative prayer is essential for their ministry as much as it is for an believer. If you think Contemplative Prayer(meditating) is some sort of new age thing,thats because Satan has brought counterfiet version to pervert the OT law.
The 24/7 prayer movement is lovely, but I think we have to be careful not to miss something. The Lord said to go out and preach and make disciples of all nations - not hide in our churches away from the world. I've been to IHOP, and it's a great place. But I don't think it's where anyone should spend 100% of their time. We're called to take Jesus to the world.
I understand your statement, however, this issue has been addressed many times. In fact, at One Thing 2009 IHOP announced 24 hours of Justice. Check out all of the areas of 24 justice that IHOP is undertaking. On the other hand I argue that way too many churches do not instruct and cultivate deep Christian lifestyle or knowledge, and then those emaciated Christians go out into the world and do more harm then good.
People look at what we are doing! We christian are accusing and throwing anger and rage all around. Jesus is love,don't judge! pray to Jesus and let Jesus do the work! To many people put Jesus in a box! and they take things in there own hands.Pray! and dont accuse! pray and show LOVE! in the name of Jesus!!
A wpman fed her husband for several days then got sick and Suddenly died. It is amazing what a little Arsnic, Rat poison or other substance can do to bring a tragic ending. Watch out for the leaven of the Phariasee.
Right I agree People look at the wacked out behavour of the PROPHETIC/APOSTOLIC Movment of today and see that THEY WANT NO PART OF THAT. The TBN Crowd are the WACKIEST bunch around the people they call apostles would be kick out of most church because of thier lack of SOUND DOCTRINE and Decernment. Sorry about that this applies here.
IHOP is not a cult.. God has clearly given IHOP many blessings and surely God is in favor with everything associated with the university. IHOP acts soley on God's will and is, in my opinion, one of the greatest places pertaining to God. How can people sit here and say that IHOP is a cult when they havent been there, nor have they any idea on what it is about? I just hope that the people who are rebuking things of God know the consequences of false teaching...
What? This is 100% biblical. Take a look in your Bible Pre-Solomon. The thing about IHOP that offends, is the same issue that the early church fathers had with the pagan Roman community. Their God centered lifestyle offends the sin lifestyle of others. The division within Christianity is no longer Orthodox/Catholic/Protestant. It is now systematic theology Vs. Postliberal theology. The final conflict is over truth.
I don't see where GOD tells people to cut them off from the society they are in and DO NOTHING but Fast & Pray, except for a short time. Be in the world NOT OF the world. ACTING drunk & childish in front of the world does NOTHING but make them want to stay away from us. Be a BEAREAN do a search Like I tell JW, Mormon and others for you: 1 The Kansas CIty Prophets 2 Andrew Stroms MSG to prophetic/apostolic movement 3 The past/current leaders & involment with GUIDING SPIRITS!!
IHOP is no doubt part of the Latter Rain cult that swept through the nation from the late 1940's until the 1960's. They practice pagan techniques in their worship of Jesus and their every goal along with Morningstar and the rest of the Prophetic Movement is to rebirth the ministry of the greatest false prophet of the twentieth century William Branham.
Rev. 22:17 is not referring to the coming of the Lord. It is an invitation for all men to come to Christ. Whosoever will may come and take of the water of life freely.
Ok people - Let's be clear. The times of our "watch" are listed in the bible and you don't chose this ministry; (1) you are CALLED (2) it must be birthed (3) and you can sleep when you're not on watch. "O" 2 be real! Blessings.
I will warn ALL and ANYBODY before you get into this ministry do a serch fro KCF Kansas City Fellowship, Kansas City Prophets the serch out some of the names associated with Kansas City Metro Vineyard church as it was once called. They are connect to Toronto Vineyard church and the Vineyard movement, the Latter Day Rain, Apostolic and Prophetic movements that are on the edge of going BEYOND scripture.
Wow, IHOP was on CBN? I've never seen this video before, I Googled for a date and I guess it aired while I was a FITN intern, and since we weren't supposed to watch TV... :P
Thanks for posting this, XSTATICMOM. It was very interesting (particularly the torrent of discussion it seems to have released!)
Thank you God for IHOP and for Mike Bickle, a man after God's own heart. He is very much following the Holy Spirit and desperately seeking the things of his heart. I know that the Lord is pleased with him and us at the International House Of Prayer and that's all that we can pray for.
Amloon if you study the word of God at all and listen to the teachings coming out of IHOP/Mike B. you will find that they are accurate and led by the Spirit of God. Statements like the ones you made are fatal to the church.
IHOP, Extreme Prophetic, New Mystics and many other in the New Emergent Church are practicing contemplative/centering Prayer among other Eastern mysticism practices. Im sure your son is smart and you feel that if hes seeking Jesus, he cant be involved in anything but the best. THE PROBLEM IS.. that contemplative prayer = transcendental meditation which has its roots in Hinduism which is occult. Therefore, practicing contemplative prayer is actually taking part in the occult.
Brothers and Sisters, dont get mad at me like Im throwing stones at you or your
friends or church something because I had been courted by a cult (Internatoinall Church of Christ or the Boston CoC) I thought I and others there couldnt be missing God because I just knew we loved Jesus. When you bring up your concerns, you may be counseled by older and wiser counsel to cut off ALL communication with Family, Friend and even your Spouse and Children for one year at least or permanently.
who lives inside of us, and it only allows us to draw closer to Him by acknowledging that His presence is so close. Contemplative prayer helps us grow in deeper intimacy with God and knowing Him more so that our love for Him may increase and that He would shape us into His likeness.
Contemplative Prayer is a way of getting people to substitute pagan practices in place of hearing the Voice of the Holy Spirit. The Bible warns very straightforward that we are not to imitate the detestable practices of paganism. Practicing contempltaive prayer is equivalent to claiming that God wants you to use a Quija Board to call down the power of the Holy Spirit.
IHOP clearly explains that contemplative prayer is a matter of turning inward on the Holy Spirit that lives inside of us. They strongly emphasize that we focus on God Himself and make sure to fill your mind with scripture to focus soley on Him. It is not about turning inward on yourself. IHOP acknowledges that eastern religions practice turning inward on yourself in meditation because you are your own god, BUT IHOP does not practice this. We draw close to God through praying to the Holy Spirit
You don;t pray to the Holy Spirit- you pray under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to glorify and worship Jesus. The Holy Spirit exists not to bring glory to itself but to lift up the name of jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
What is wrong with " New Mystics" or a Prophetic movement? If God is what the bible say God is then God has to be the same God of the old testament; Right? I believe the bible says something on the lines of God being the same yesterday, today and forever. God is Mystic to say the least. How do you follow a mystic being without trying to emulating it?
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to all of you who are following this man i warn you, you are being decieved this man is trying to become the second christ, you need to get out of that "religion" religion is mans effort to get to God....christianity is the exact opposite God comes to us...but we do not know that hour or the day and we cannot do anything to make it come faster or anything like that...you need to know that that "sing" that hes talking about is exactly what Jesus is warning you about in Matthew 24:24
matthew 24:24 (KJV) "For there shall arise false christs , and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall decieve the very elect"
I am only writing this because i have a very uneasy feeling about this man....Jesus said that there will be people trying to be second christs show great signs and wonders. this video shows exactly that this man is a fraud. and he will be cursed for trying to be the second christ...
I really recommend reading some of his books or listen to some of his sermons to see for yourself that he is a humble man that is not trying to be the second christ. I would not make such a bold statement after watching a short video clip, you should look into who he is and what he is truly about.
I have listened to quite a few sermons by Mike Bickle. They are in their least toxic form bizarre and in their most toxic form downright heresy. They clearly do not line up with the teaching of scripture unless the scripture you are reading is the Gospel according to Mike Bickle. Bickle's associations with false prophet and sexual pervert Bob Jones should be enough to alarm you as to Bickle's trustworthiness as a leader.
This is so beautiful, truly we are blessed to live in these last days and see the body of Christ growing stronger in the Lord and in numbers. Praise Jesus♥
The scripture commands us to pray without ceasing, I thought that the Body of Christ as a whole would be on one accord with this but were the ones opposing this, if you ask me we need as much prayer as possible for this nation, does anyone remember what happened when prayer was taken out of school. We make satan's job easier when we are not on one accord!
No man is above accountability. Men who hate accountability, obviously disagree with the Bible. We need to be seeking God in the Bible, not in mysticism.
I am so scared for my faimly that goes to I Hop. I pray for them daily that they will turn back to God. AND STOP WITH THIS CHEW ON THE MEAT AND SPIT OUT THE BONES CRAP.
Keep Praying and Get AS MUCH FALSE TEACHINGS OF BICKLES AS YOU CAN TO EXPOSE HIM TO THEM AND KEEP CONFRONTING YOUR FAMILY. GOD is good and is faithful and Just Brother.
I have a Bible and can discern for myself. Really , I don't attend a church. My last church was linked to IHOP indirectly.
I have been there. I didn't hear any falsehood in his teaching. The worship Of The Eternal One filled the room and Shkinah glory was so thick you could literally see it. I experienced God in a tangible way. Nothing anyone says can take that from me.
About Bob Jones... do you have real proof? not saying your wrong but I have no evidence before me just your word.
About Bob Jones - Google his name with scandal or undressing women-But FACTUALLY he has been require or FORCED to leave most all of the ministries he has been associated with for one thing or another.
I respect Mike Bickle and Lou Engle and so do the majority. Excuse me while I move on to more important matters like praying for people like you sincerely and sharing hope and love verses division. :o/
The Majority in Soddom & Gamorrah and Ananias and Saphira thought they were fine also GOD is not in DEMOCRACY he is in THEOCRACY. I am not about DIVISION but about Reconcilliation and sound doctrine which can allow people to enter the NARROW gate note the WIDE gate.
people showed up, therefore that should show you how "fake" this is.. what would you do if god told you to do something like this? mock it and pretend you didn't hear it? God told mike bickle to start IHOP; therefore he did.
& no this isn't fake - its not like the same people sit there and pray 24/7 they have schedules and switch off.
sorry if i sounded rude but its hard to believe some people would try to make this look bad or wrong. eh,
It is not that is is wrong WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ANY WAY, But in large congregations who have a Daytime or afternoon service for those whose schedule keeps them from Sun 10 am & 6 pm and Wed 7 pm. What is wrong is the lake of SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE in this and the NEW EMERGENT CHURCH/NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION chek out what Andrew Strom says he has separated himselk fomr this movement. DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID.
Do any of you know what you're even talking about? I mean I don't see how in any way, shape, or form you would think this is wrong. IHOP is a place were people worship & pray to god 24/7. Miraculous things have happened there and their meetings are AMAZING, you can truly feel the presence of god there and if i were you i wouldn't go talking about something unless you know something about it. i suggest going to a onething meeting they have there in December, I went last year and thousands of
God has called us to be a light unto the world and be ready to give our testimony at an instants notice so seluding your self cut you off from doing just that. I am in Kansas City, MO and preached on the streets IHOP says they are one the streets BUT I and others I minister with have never seen nor heard them anywhere they have said they go!!!!!!
Actually they do go out at night and minister to the homeless and other people on the streets at night. Just because you never heard of it or see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. God exists and you don't try to refute that even though you never see GOD. I have friends at IHOP and have been there. Have you been there? You talk alot of trash.
I Stick By MY Comments: You Need to Check out Mine Or Others Videos about THE NEW EMERGENT Church, NEW MYSTIC and NAR-NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION and here what most of these False teachers are saying. I know of Bikle and who has been at the KC METRO Church-now IHOP and I was there when they started calling it IHOP and started 24/7 prayer, it was a very strange spirit that permeated the place-MY PERSONNAL EXPERENCE. besides the LACK OF AN ELDER, DEACON to moderate open mic time.
Kingdom Theology holds the view that through the networking of appointed and anointed (apostolic) leadership and submission of followers to that leadership, the Kingdom of God can be actualized, here upon the Earth. Thus they 'prepare the way' for the Lord to return and reign. Jesus said to Pilate, "But NOW my Kindom is NOT of this world, If it were my people would fight." Behold, the history of the church through the centuries endeavored to do that very thing, to establish an earthly kingdom.
Bob Jones has also molested woman, claiming that God wanted him too. I have family that has been to I Hop and i am so scared and sad for them. I pray daily that they will once again open their eyes and come back to the truth. NO MORE OF THIS CHEW ON THE MEAT AND SPIT OUT THE BONES CRAP
I find it strange that you would post a comment claiming that someone "molested" someone being that you are a christian. I mean I would think that Christians would be the the highest standard of supporting the law yet you put up a worldwide comment that is nothing but slander. No legitimate source ever substantiated your slander and no office of law accused or convicted him of molestation yet you boldly say it as infallible truth? So strange this world is now. Jesus was slandered also remember?
KEEP up THe EXPOSING of these FALSE TEACHERS. Bob Jones has had Females stand Naked(told to take off thier clothes) for those who don't get it, in front of him to allegedly stand naked before GOD which he would placing himself in place of GOD. Divorce, Perversion, Homosexuality, Drunkards, Adultery and other sins are counted among some in these movements Fruit. I know of a Women's Home that had several Rape issues that were associated with a LARGE well known CA based Ministry here in KCMO.
Mike Bickle's false doctrine is appalling. It is sad that so many people do not understand that this "Latter Rain" or "Manifest Sons of God" doctrine fuels the whole iHOP movement This false revival is no where in scripture; persecution for not taking the mark of the beast is in the bible. Bob Jones is a false male Jezebel whose false prophesies are horrendous as is his personal unrepented for sexual perversion WHILE he was prophesying. This is a set up for the End Time Delusion
Do you have examples of this false doctrine? Is it false or different than what you believe? No man is perfect, but all can be restoered by God alone! What are they hurting if they are just trying to bring people to Christ? We Christians need to unite despite our differences, instead of trying to rip each other to shreds,who is the enemy here?
Show yourself approved and do the research on the Latter Rain heresy. Their "Christ" is a lot different than the Lord of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. RickJoyner does not believe that Jesus came in the flesh. This is serious stuff and we have to remember the Lord said "He will send a delusion" for those who no longer love the truth. Do you love the truth no matter what? No matter is Mike Bickle, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley tell you otherwise? Read the word and feast upon it. He is watching.
I agree with you in that a lot of people do only listen to the "big names" of the movement instead of reading their bibles. have been a supporter of Bentley, but have changed the way I feel about what is going on in Lakeland,I even tried watching last night,and chatted at the same time and when I questioned,why he does not use the name of Jesus when he prays for something,the people ripped me to shreds.I was not attacking you,I am just curious.I agree there is not enough of God in this move.
I am frankly, very scared for my Christian friends who have been fooled by this. They seem to live off the fumes of the Apostolic Prophetic movement instead of the Lord. This is really really dangerous stuff. Todd B is just a tool in it, he almost doesn't bother me as much as the men behind it. Bob Jones, Bill Hamon, Rick Joyner. Hamon especially is AntiChrist with his false teachings about prophecy and end times God-Men who will kill people who don't believe! Bless you & pray & discern!
Hamon teaches us not to discern the spirits where prophecy is concerned. It is an End Time attempt to get us stupid and softened up so when the real False Prophet comes to usher in the Anti Christ, we will not know how to discern using the Bible who is a false prophet . He tries to make a new category of the Rhema word distinct from the Logos word -- when the Rhema is only of God when it substantiates and is in line with the written word! And, Bickle's ideas about Truman are ridiculous.
How can people fall for this? Thank God I had a good,solid,Baptist,biblical backing to start off my walk!I have noticed that even when I go to The Vineyard church i have started going to that there is minimal scripture involved.I have read on the Logos and Rhema a bit,and fear that you are right about the separation of the two,neither be without the other.People want a God who lives to please them,sadly it is not the God of the Bible.
They fall for it because, just as you said about the Vineyard, they don't read the word. It is chasing after personal prophesies. Bless you and email me -- this is a huge problem for the church today.
Because they must defend the leader over jesus and you cannot question THIS or THAT man/woman of God you must be in error. This is the way they close thier mind to SOUND Doctrine/Teaching.
I completly belive this, I belive this is the truth, after much study. I live in a real spiritualy dead area, pray for me to break the strong hold over this region, to bring in the house of prayer in this town. A place of GOSHEN. like the word says, because we know the days are coming. when they will run to the Lords house for help. Blessings Battleax4U ,Terri
The ONLY thing I agree with Mike Bickle about is that women are weaker spiritually. It's the same Jesus living in a woman, the SAME Holy Spirit as in a man. Women might be smaller physically but they are GIANTS in the spirit realm. Other than this, Mike Bickle got it goin' on.
Glory2theLamb11 4 months ago
The arrogance of Bickle is astounding.
Cyril376444 6 months ago
Bickle hasn't a clue what anyone needs to do with regard to their spiritual well-being. If he could just bring himself to stop meddling in other people's lives and tend to his own house, he would be more than busy for the rest of his earthly days.
charadester 6 months ago 2
@danglesnipesdaniel why r u pasting this same message on all if mikes messages?? He is a follower of the lord and I know that he has recieved knowledge from the lord and the rapture is coming. Fix ur eyes upon Jesus Hebrews 12. Dude we all must be ready for when Jesus comes back, I don't know u but I love you like a brother in Christ.
ty2702 1 year ago
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Why should I believe most of this "religion" or "spirituality" stuff? There's no REASON. No REASONS based on REAL EVIDENCE. There's no facts here. No scientific facts. My dad watches these Bickle videos all day. I don't understand it. I like how he talks about getting identity right and establishing it in truth but I know he doesn't know what truth really means. Religion isn't truth. Spirituality isn't truth. The scientific method has proved to be a much better way of getting at truth.
danglesnipesdaniel 1 year ago
"Cut off from the rest of the world." -
Where do people make this stuff up from. I'm full immersed in IHOP-KC and have been for many years. I have a full time carrier, spend holidays with my Methodist family members and do outreach to places like Haiti and the inner city in both practical help and evangelic outreaches. No one is ever encouraged, let alone forced to cut ties with the outside world or family members.
kccreature 1 year ago
They do not cut theirselves from society & neither do they have any "kool-aid" to offer. I have plenty of messages on my Ipod & visited a few times myself.On the other hand they do have plenty ministries for outreach both community & internationally. Fasting & a contemplative prayer is essential for their ministry as much as it is for an believer. If you think Contemplative Prayer(meditating) is some sort of new age thing,thats because Satan has brought counterfiet version to pervert the OT law.
drew9288 1 year ago
Jesus all the way! People get ready, Jesus is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol God i ask you open eyes in the name of Jesus! Mike is AWESOME!!!!!
brandnewgirl07 1 year ago
The 24/7 prayer movement is lovely, but I think we have to be careful not to miss something. The Lord said to go out and preach and make disciples of all nations - not hide in our churches away from the world. I've been to IHOP, and it's a great place. But I don't think it's where anyone should spend 100% of their time. We're called to take Jesus to the world.
cattieloves 2 years ago
@cattieloves
I understand your statement, however, this issue has been addressed many times. In fact, at One Thing 2009 IHOP announced 24 hours of Justice. Check out all of the areas of 24 justice that IHOP is undertaking. On the other hand I argue that way too many churches do not instruct and cultivate deep Christian lifestyle or knowledge, and then those emaciated Christians go out into the world and do more harm then good.
mwandrus 1 year ago
People look at what we are doing! We christian are accusing and throwing anger and rage all around. Jesus is love,don't judge! pray to Jesus and let Jesus do the work! To many people put Jesus in a box! and they take things in there own hands.Pray! and dont accuse! pray and show LOVE! in the name of Jesus!!
Tomekwinxs 2 years ago
A wpman fed her husband for several days then got sick and Suddenly died. It is amazing what a little Arsnic, Rat poison or other substance can do to bring a tragic ending. Watch out for the leaven of the Phariasee.
DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Right I agree People look at the wacked out behavour of the PROPHETIC/APOSTOLIC Movment of today and see that THEY WANT NO PART OF THAT. The TBN Crowd are the WACKIEST bunch around the people they call apostles would be kick out of most church because of thier lack of SOUND DOCTRINE and Decernment. Sorry about that this applies here.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
IHOP is not a cult.. God has clearly given IHOP many blessings and surely God is in favor with everything associated with the university. IHOP acts soley on God's will and is, in my opinion, one of the greatest places pertaining to God. How can people sit here and say that IHOP is a cult when they havent been there, nor have they any idea on what it is about? I just hope that the people who are rebuking things of God know the consequences of false teaching...
JesusSaves2012 2 years ago
That is what people said about JONESTOWN and WACO!!!!
There is just TOO MUCH Grissel and bones put in the meat.
DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
LOL, What?
baBristow 2 years ago
What? This is 100% biblical. Take a look in your Bible Pre-Solomon. The thing about IHOP that offends, is the same issue that the early church fathers had with the pagan Roman community. Their God centered lifestyle offends the sin lifestyle of others. The division within Christianity is no longer Orthodox/Catholic/Protestant. It is now systematic theology Vs. Postliberal theology. The final conflict is over truth.
mwandrus 1 year ago
I don't see where GOD tells people to cut them off from the society they are in and DO NOTHING but Fast & Pray, except for a short time. Be in the world NOT OF the world. ACTING drunk & childish in front of the world does NOTHING but make them want to stay away from us. Be a BEAREAN do a search Like I tell JW, Mormon and others for you: 1 The Kansas CIty Prophets 2 Andrew Stroms MSG to prophetic/apostolic movement 3 The past/current leaders & involment with GUIDING SPIRITS!!
stanmanmo59 1 year ago
@mwandrus Do you present IHOP as a proponent of Postliberal theology, then?
Azariah197 1 year ago
IHOP is no doubt part of the Latter Rain cult that swept through the nation from the late 1940's until the 1960's. They practice pagan techniques in their worship of Jesus and their every goal along with Morningstar and the rest of the Prophetic Movement is to rebirth the ministry of the greatest false prophet of the twentieth century William Branham.
Cwhzup13 2 years ago
They are Part & Parcel of the Pre-Toronto Airport Vineyard Church(VINEYARD MOVEMENT) and Latter-rain, Apostolic Crowd.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Rev. 22:17 is not referring to the coming of the Lord. It is an invitation for all men to come to Christ. Whosoever will may come and take of the water of life freely.
winlightministries 2 years ago
Ok people - Let's be clear. The times of our "watch" are listed in the bible and you don't chose this ministry; (1) you are CALLED (2) it must be birthed (3) and you can sleep when you're not on watch. "O" 2 be real! Blessings.
ThePiratesPioneer1 2 years ago
I will warn ALL and ANYBODY before you get into this ministry do a serch fro KCF Kansas City Fellowship, Kansas City Prophets the serch out some of the names associated with Kansas City Metro Vineyard church as it was once called. They are connect to Toronto Vineyard church and the Vineyard movement, the Latter Day Rain, Apostolic and Prophetic movements that are on the edge of going BEYOND scripture.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Wow, IHOP was on CBN? I've never seen this video before, I Googled for a date and I guess it aired while I was a FITN intern, and since we weren't supposed to watch TV... :P
Thanks for posting this, XSTATICMOM. It was very interesting (particularly the torrent of discussion it seems to have released!)
CirquGirl 3 years ago
Thank you God for IHOP and for Mike Bickle, a man after God's own heart. He is very much following the Holy Spirit and desperately seeking the things of his heart. I know that the Lord is pleased with him and us at the International House Of Prayer and that's all that we can pray for.
lovelybroken 3 years ago 4
Amloon if you study the word of God at all and listen to the teachings coming out of IHOP/Mike B. you will find that they are accurate and led by the Spirit of God. Statements like the ones you made are fatal to the church.
Barry
fatred777 3 years ago
IHOP, Extreme Prophetic, New Mystics and many other in the New Emergent Church are practicing contemplative/centering Prayer among other Eastern mysticism practices. Im sure your son is smart and you feel that if hes seeking Jesus, he cant be involved in anything but the best. THE PROBLEM IS.. that contemplative prayer = transcendental meditation which has its roots in Hinduism which is occult. Therefore, practicing contemplative prayer is actually taking part in the occult.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Brothers and Sisters, dont get mad at me like Im throwing stones at you or your
friends or church something because I had been courted by a cult (Internatoinall Church of Christ or the Boston CoC) I thought I and others there couldnt be missing God because I just knew we loved Jesus. When you bring up your concerns, you may be counseled by older and wiser counsel to cut off ALL communication with Family, Friend and even your Spouse and Children for one year at least or permanently.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
I really hope the Lord opens your eyes to the deception Among the NEW EMERGENT CHURCH and
thier prophets of DOOM. We are so very close to His return
DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
who lives inside of us, and it only allows us to draw closer to Him by acknowledging that His presence is so close. Contemplative prayer helps us grow in deeper intimacy with God and knowing Him more so that our love for Him may increase and that He would shape us into His likeness.
osusportsfan03 2 years ago
Contemplative Prayer is a way of getting people to substitute pagan practices in place of hearing the Voice of the Holy Spirit. The Bible warns very straightforward that we are not to imitate the detestable practices of paganism. Practicing contempltaive prayer is equivalent to claiming that God wants you to use a Quija Board to call down the power of the Holy Spirit.
Cwhzup13 2 years ago
IHOP clearly explains that contemplative prayer is a matter of turning inward on the Holy Spirit that lives inside of us. They strongly emphasize that we focus on God Himself and make sure to fill your mind with scripture to focus soley on Him. It is not about turning inward on yourself. IHOP acknowledges that eastern religions practice turning inward on yourself in meditation because you are your own god, BUT IHOP does not practice this. We draw close to God through praying to the Holy Spirit
osusportsfan03 2 years ago
You don;t pray to the Holy Spirit- you pray under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to glorify and worship Jesus. The Holy Spirit exists not to bring glory to itself but to lift up the name of jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.
Cwhzup13 2 years ago
What is wrong with " New Mystics" or a Prophetic movement? If God is what the bible say God is then God has to be the same God of the old testament; Right? I believe the bible says something on the lines of God being the same yesterday, today and forever. God is Mystic to say the least. How do you follow a mystic being without trying to emulating it?
sepr8te1 2 years ago
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DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN...HE IS BEING LED BY THE DEVIL...hes crazy
amloon 3 years ago
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to all of you who are following this man i warn you, you are being decieved this man is trying to become the second christ, you need to get out of that "religion" religion is mans effort to get to God....christianity is the exact opposite God comes to us...but we do not know that hour or the day and we cannot do anything to make it come faster or anything like that...you need to know that that "sing" that hes talking about is exactly what Jesus is warning you about in Matthew 24:24
amloon 3 years ago
matthew 24:24 (KJV) "For there shall arise false christs , and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall decieve the very elect"
I am only writing this because i have a very uneasy feeling about this man....Jesus said that there will be people trying to be second christs show great signs and wonders. this video shows exactly that this man is a fraud. and he will be cursed for trying to be the second christ...
amloon 3 years ago
I really recommend reading some of his books or listen to some of his sermons to see for yourself that he is a humble man that is not trying to be the second christ. I would not make such a bold statement after watching a short video clip, you should look into who he is and what he is truly about.
osusportsfan03 2 years ago
AMEN!
beiner2damax 2 years ago
I have listened to quite a few sermons by Mike Bickle. They are in their least toxic form bizarre and in their most toxic form downright heresy. They clearly do not line up with the teaching of scripture unless the scripture you are reading is the Gospel according to Mike Bickle. Bickle's associations with false prophet and sexual pervert Bob Jones should be enough to alarm you as to Bickle's trustworthiness as a leader.
Cwhzup13 2 years ago
This is so beautiful, truly we are blessed to live in these last days and see the body of Christ growing stronger in the Lord and in numbers. Praise Jesus♥
He hears his children♥ 24/7
O Lord Jesus come quickly for your Bride!
We pray for Peace in Israel !
Terri3210 3 years ago 4
The scripture commands us to pray without ceasing, I thought that the Body of Christ as a whole would be on one accord with this but were the ones opposing this, if you ask me we need as much prayer as possible for this nation, does anyone remember what happened when prayer was taken out of school. We make satan's job easier when we are not on one accord!
rthomas7 3 years ago 2
No man is above accountability. Men who hate accountability, obviously disagree with the Bible. We need to be seeking God in the Bible, not in mysticism.
benitosuave 3 years ago
I am so scared for my faimly that goes to I Hop. I pray for them daily that they will turn back to God. AND STOP WITH THIS CHEW ON THE MEAT AND SPIT OUT THE BONES CRAP.
jeroach1 3 years ago
Keep Praying and Get AS MUCH FALSE TEACHINGS OF BICKLES AS YOU CAN TO EXPOSE HIM TO THEM AND KEEP CONFRONTING YOUR FAMILY. GOD is good and is faithful and Just Brother.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
I have a Bible and can discern for myself. Really , I don't attend a church. My last church was linked to IHOP indirectly.
I have been there. I didn't hear any falsehood in his teaching. The worship Of The Eternal One filled the room and Shkinah glory was so thick you could literally see it. I experienced God in a tangible way. Nothing anyone says can take that from me.
About Bob Jones... do you have real proof? not saying your wrong but I have no evidence before me just your word.
sepr8te1 2 years ago
About Bob Jones - Google his name with scandal or undressing women-But FACTUALLY he has been require or FORCED to leave most all of the ministries he has been associated with for one thing or another.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
I respect Mike Bickle and Lou Engle and so do the majority. Excuse me while I move on to more important matters like praying for people like you sincerely and sharing hope and love verses division. :o/
godsgirlfriend7777 2 years ago
The Majority in Soddom & Gamorrah and Ananias and Saphira thought they were fine also GOD is not in DEMOCRACY he is in THEOCRACY. I am not about DIVISION but about Reconcilliation and sound doctrine which can allow people to enter the NARROW gate note the WIDE gate.
DON't DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!!!
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
people showed up, therefore that should show you how "fake" this is.. what would you do if god told you to do something like this? mock it and pretend you didn't hear it? God told mike bickle to start IHOP; therefore he did.
& no this isn't fake - its not like the same people sit there and pray 24/7 they have schedules and switch off.
sorry if i sounded rude but its hard to believe some people would try to make this look bad or wrong. eh,
god bless -
maddyk777 3 years ago 10
It is not that is is wrong WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS ANY WAY, But in large congregations who have a Daytime or afternoon service for those whose schedule keeps them from Sun 10 am & 6 pm and Wed 7 pm. What is wrong is the lake of SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE in this and the NEW EMERGENT CHURCH/NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION chek out what Andrew Strom says he has separated himselk fomr this movement. DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Do any of you know what you're even talking about? I mean I don't see how in any way, shape, or form you would think this is wrong. IHOP is a place were people worship & pray to god 24/7. Miraculous things have happened there and their meetings are AMAZING, you can truly feel the presence of god there and if i were you i wouldn't go talking about something unless you know something about it. i suggest going to a onething meeting they have there in December, I went last year and thousands of
maddyk777 3 years ago 6
God has called us to be a light unto the world and be ready to give our testimony at an instants notice so seluding your self cut you off from doing just that. I am in Kansas City, MO and preached on the streets IHOP says they are one the streets BUT I and others I minister with have never seen nor heard them anywhere they have said they go!!!!!!
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Actually they do go out at night and minister to the homeless and other people on the streets at night. Just because you never heard of it or see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. God exists and you don't try to refute that even though you never see GOD. I have friends at IHOP and have been there. Have you been there? You talk alot of trash.
sepr8te1 2 years ago
I Stick By MY Comments: You Need to Check out Mine Or Others Videos about THE NEW EMERGENT Church, NEW MYSTIC and NAR-NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION and here what most of these False teachers are saying. I know of Bikle and who has been at the KC METRO Church-now IHOP and I was there when they started calling it IHOP and started 24/7 prayer, it was a very strange spirit that permeated the place-MY PERSONNAL EXPERENCE. besides the LACK OF AN ELDER, DEACON to moderate open mic time.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
I've known Him since 1980. I believe he is sincere, but sincerely wrong. Pray for him, don't slander him.
jimbomissouri 3 years ago
Did you go to kc metro vineyard?
wholehearted1 3 years ago
Kingdom Theology holds the view that through the networking of appointed and anointed (apostolic) leadership and submission of followers to that leadership, the Kingdom of God can be actualized, here upon the Earth. Thus they 'prepare the way' for the Lord to return and reign. Jesus said to Pilate, "But NOW my Kindom is NOT of this world, If it were my people would fight." Behold, the history of the church through the centuries endeavored to do that very thing, to establish an earthly kingdom.
cornetcharlie 3 years ago
I haven't looked into Bickle, but Bob Jones is a false prophet
benitosuave 3 years ago
Bob Jones has also molested woman, claiming that God wanted him too. I have family that has been to I Hop and i am so scared and sad for them. I pray daily that they will once again open their eyes and come back to the truth. NO MORE OF THIS CHEW ON THE MEAT AND SPIT OUT THE BONES CRAP
jeroach1 3 years ago
I find it strange that you would post a comment claiming that someone "molested" someone being that you are a christian. I mean I would think that Christians would be the the highest standard of supporting the law yet you put up a worldwide comment that is nothing but slander. No legitimate source ever substantiated your slander and no office of law accused or convicted him of molestation yet you boldly say it as infallible truth? So strange this world is now. Jesus was slandered also remember?
wholehearted1 3 years ago 4
KEEP up THe EXPOSING of these FALSE TEACHERS. Bob Jones has had Females stand Naked(told to take off thier clothes) for those who don't get it, in front of him to allegedly stand naked before GOD which he would placing himself in place of GOD. Divorce, Perversion, Homosexuality, Drunkards, Adultery and other sins are counted among some in these movements Fruit. I know of a Women's Home that had several Rape issues that were associated with a LARGE well known CA based Ministry here in KCMO.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Wow. I never herd that one before. That's the same thing Jim Jones did to women.
TheTryingman 2 years ago
Mike Bickle's false doctrine is appalling. It is sad that so many people do not understand that this "Latter Rain" or "Manifest Sons of God" doctrine fuels the whole iHOP movement This false revival is no where in scripture; persecution for not taking the mark of the beast is in the bible. Bob Jones is a false male Jezebel whose false prophesies are horrendous as is his personal unrepented for sexual perversion WHILE he was prophesying. This is a set up for the End Time Delusion
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Do you have examples of this false doctrine? Is it false or different than what you believe? No man is perfect, but all can be restoered by God alone! What are they hurting if they are just trying to bring people to Christ? We Christians need to unite despite our differences, instead of trying to rip each other to shreds,who is the enemy here?
aliciaflirt 3 years ago 3
Show yourself approved and do the research on the Latter Rain heresy. Their "Christ" is a lot different than the Lord of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. RickJoyner does not believe that Jesus came in the flesh. This is serious stuff and we have to remember the Lord said "He will send a delusion" for those who no longer love the truth. Do you love the truth no matter what? No matter is Mike Bickle, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley tell you otherwise? Read the word and feast upon it. He is watching.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
I agree with you in that a lot of people do only listen to the "big names" of the movement instead of reading their bibles. have been a supporter of Bentley, but have changed the way I feel about what is going on in Lakeland,I even tried watching last night,and chatted at the same time and when I questioned,why he does not use the name of Jesus when he prays for something,the people ripped me to shreds.I was not attacking you,I am just curious.I agree there is not enough of God in this move.
aliciaflirt 3 years ago 2
I am frankly, very scared for my Christian friends who have been fooled by this. They seem to live off the fumes of the Apostolic Prophetic movement instead of the Lord. This is really really dangerous stuff. Todd B is just a tool in it, he almost doesn't bother me as much as the men behind it. Bob Jones, Bill Hamon, Rick Joyner. Hamon especially is AntiChrist with his false teachings about prophecy and end times God-Men who will kill people who don't believe! Bless you & pray & discern!
Cooperpal 3 years ago
I have never heard of this Bill Hamon, he is big in this move? I will research thanks for the heads up. Peace to you!
aliciaflirt 3 years ago
Hamon teaches us not to discern the spirits where prophecy is concerned. It is an End Time attempt to get us stupid and softened up so when the real False Prophet comes to usher in the Anti Christ, we will not know how to discern using the Bible who is a false prophet . He tries to make a new category of the Rhema word distinct from the Logos word -- when the Rhema is only of God when it substantiates and is in line with the written word! And, Bickle's ideas about Truman are ridiculous.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
How can people fall for this? Thank God I had a good,solid,Baptist,biblical backing to start off my walk!I have noticed that even when I go to The Vineyard church i have started going to that there is minimal scripture involved.I have read on the Logos and Rhema a bit,and fear that you are right about the separation of the two,neither be without the other.People want a God who lives to please them,sadly it is not the God of the Bible.
aliciaflirt 3 years ago
They fall for it because, just as you said about the Vineyard, they don't read the word. It is chasing after personal prophesies. Bless you and email me -- this is a huge problem for the church today.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Because they must defend the leader over jesus and you cannot question THIS or THAT man/woman of God you must be in error. This is the way they close thier mind to SOUND Doctrine/Teaching.
stanmanmo59 2 years ago
Good segment! I saw my old internship on here!
smikebain 3 years ago
which internship were you in smikebain? I did fitn just before this video I believe.
beast247 3 years ago
hey beast, I did Onething Internship July - December 2005, then stayed on a year at FSM until my wife and I moved back to my hometown
smikebain 3 years ago
Go Mike!
27AustinCampbell 3 years ago 3
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Woohoo MIKE!! I hope every last person on EARTH spends 24/7 in this church!
On Earth Mike! WoooooHoooo!
oh, wait, it's a Christian Church?
Allah hates this shit mike.
He's been pretty specific.
Please stop before *my* intolerant God destroys your pathetic wussy one...
professionallynasty 3 years ago
Yes mike!! may prayer houses be put ALL around the world! God bless you!!
prophetic11 4 years ago 4
O Haste the day when people run to the LORD's house for help! They desperately need Him!
lordbemylight 4 years ago 3
I completly belive this, I belive this is the truth, after much study. I live in a real spiritualy dead area, pray for me to break the strong hold over this region, to bring in the house of prayer in this town. A place of GOSHEN. like the word says, because we know the days are coming. when they will run to the Lords house for help. Blessings Battleax4U ,Terri
battleax333 4 years ago 9