If everyone on the planet were to go to "green" independent sources for energy, the government will be there with its hand out to take a tax on some part of it.
If the government is so much behind this technology, why is it that local utilities are successfully filing suits to block home owners from installing solar panels and other technologies? This is just like the government charade of pushing alternate energy transportation and touting it as "Free energy" then imposing a per mile tax on cars to make up for what they are losing in gas taxes.
The system that he is describing doesn't really consume any water at all, it is an almost completely closed loop. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity, the hydrogen and oxygen are used in a fuel cell to produce electricity, and the output of the fuel cell (water) goes back into the tank to be split again.
The system that he is describing doesn't really consume any water at all, it is an almost completely closed loop. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity, the hydrogen and oxygen are used in a fuel cell to produce electricity, and the output of the fuel cell (water) goes back into the tank to be split again.
That is the end of this idea.... Does anybody think that the nuke+oil+energy companies will let this kind of thing through? They have even resisted biogas plants etc... The point about energy is that it has to be decentralized. Go tell that to RWE or E-On.
Does this process consume a lot of water? How would you get around the issue of fresh water already being depleted? Could salt water be used with this technology?
@VCat2006 I'm thinking more in regards to large scale energy production to the extent that it may reduce our dependence on foreign oil. In order to produce that much energy would it require using huge quantities of our fresh water resources? If water use would be significant then it would cause even more rapid depletion of our water supplies.
@john2knj I suppose you could use a passively cooled liquid salt thorium reactor to make water, power, and hydrogen (if pure hydrogen can be stored better than hydrogen in oil or ammonia and better than energy in batteries or pressure vessels) if there's no more pollution than a coal plant produces.
@ajvhan We have more oil than we think we have. There's enough oil in Alaska alone to last the US for centuries. For some reason though, we're not allowed to tap into it. Also, there were two reserves (1 off the coast of Siberia, Russia, the other off the coast of Indonesia) tapped a few years ago. Combined, they are as big as the entire middle east put together.
There's plenty of oil, we just CANNOT afford to lose ANY water.
This is exaclty what Japan needs right now. East Japan has been suffering from shortage of power supply since the massive earthquake. And recent nuclear reactor troubles make things worse. I strongly hope that this Sun-water generating power technology develops and gets industrially applied.
This is awesome....and now Americans should travel to Europe to learn how to build properly insulated houses that need hardly any air conditioning (even at at hot temperatures) and they will need only 50% of the electricity they're using right now...now THAT would make a difference and would make this even better.
Ever done something, and because nobody has done it before, nobody believes it can be done? A molecular structural change is one of them. Consider this, gas and liquid cannot occupy the same space, they will separate, when one is a gas, and the other is a liquid. If you find the saturation temperature of a liquid it will turn to a gas. I can take any liquid to any specific temperature, even above the said liquids boiling point. See it happen to gasoline. You Tube, White Gasoline Vapor. Read.
...or have the public grow a fucking brain and stop electing political candidate 1 over political candidate 2 just because candidate 1 has millions more dollars in their campaign than 2 has. There is absolutely NOTHING stopping the fucked-up subhuman shithead public from pushing a fucking button in a voting booth for the Weedman to be governor of NJ rather than piece-of-shit Christie.
Capitalism fails, because if you allow CEOs of corporations to make unlimted amounts of money, then they use that money in a positive feedback loop to campaign for politicians who vote for laws that allow CEOs even MORE money. Anyone who does not comprehend these logistics is either a liar or a complete shithead.
So, you either limit all income to $100K/year or less for EVERYONE - by law - by force..
Direct photolysis of water has been under research for at least forty years. See Bolton: Solar Power and Fuels (Academic Press, 1977) which summarized work up to that point. There are significant problems, and this video doesn't say what problem(s) they've solved at that suddenly make this technology practical.
I have heard so many great ideas of alternative+green and hopefully cheap energy sources, but all these ideas disappear and we don't hear them again. how does it come? they run out of funding or these projects go into dead end as they don't reach expected results?
Assuming it was like what happened to the EVs made by GM and other companies when CARB in California made then invest in electric cars, then the oil companies and the companies that make money off the fossil fuels, including the car companies themselves, destroy the programs. Its a major flaw in capitalism, but whats the better alternative?
@Conesarekoolyahoo I think capitalism works fine as long as we can heavily regulate the government (i.e. no more money lobbying in congress, no promising corporate jobs after retirement, and if you donate to election committees, each individual US citizen should be aloud to donate no more than a fixed amountsay $50 or so). These laws should be enacted constitutionally immediately so that we stop electing money-hungry ego-driven pricks into office and start electing people who care.
@achzdck one thing you should realize is that engine has never been effectively recreated and it is possible to get 200 miles to gallon with engines however at a SEVERE reduction in power.
Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
Yeah , look what happened to the guy that made the car that ran on water and gave off zero emissions and got crazy mileage. Even if the tire industry increased the circumference of the tires on autos it would improve gas mileage. None of these great ideas will come to fruition because of the oil lobby in DC. They will buy it up and stuff it in a closet that's full of great ideas and keep it from ever seeing the light of day.
The truly wonderful thing about this technology is it uses an abundant resources (water and sunlight), and is non polluting... just like plants. Imitating nature is indeed the finest flattery.
So what? This video is deceiving. He is using solar panels and storing the energy in electrolysis generated hydrogen. Why not just use a battery? The efficiency is still mainly limited by the solar panels anyway. The money spent by taxpayers on this is funding interesting science, but has nothing to do with improving the economy.
Yeah, it does seem like just cheap electrolysis from glossing over their papers, but I think the point is that it's cheaper and/or lighter than batteries. The improving the economy part just comes from funding these peoples' jobs (which might be cut or fall through the cracks otherwise).
Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
Great, we pay them $4 million, so that one day, maybe if we're lucky, they'll charge us money for their product. Shouldn't we get investor kick backs?
Ya...forgive me for being cynical, but expect the oil companys to buy out this nonsense in record time.
Release the full specs and science on the net for free and let the tech be free for all, or expect "sudden heart attacks" straight across the board and the tech become buried in some desert vault for a century
your questions are the exact questions that everyone asked about Hybrids. Plus the government take the Tarp money that was payed back and use it to get these out there. Think of FDR and the bridges and highways.
yeh youre right, and i forgot to mention, how many tons of carbon does it save and will it be outdated by improvements in solar power stored in batterys or something in 10 years?
i read 30 kilowatts in 4 hours? but realistically, how much does that cost to install this system and does the catylist run out and if so how much is a refill it when it runs out? whats the most ammount of energy this has generated so far in a day and how much did that system cost?
Catalysts - by definition - aren't consumed in the reaction that they're accelerating, so it wouldn't theoretically have to be replenished. Dunno about the rest of your questions.
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Johnceden 3 weeks ago
If everyone on the planet were to go to "green" independent sources for energy, the government will be there with its hand out to take a tax on some part of it.
ACRScout57 9 months ago
If the government is so much behind this technology, why is it that local utilities are successfully filing suits to block home owners from installing solar panels and other technologies? This is just like the government charade of pushing alternate energy transportation and touting it as "Free energy" then imposing a per mile tax on cars to make up for what they are losing in gas taxes.
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The system that he is describing doesn't really consume any water at all, it is an almost completely closed loop. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity, the hydrogen and oxygen are used in a fuel cell to produce electricity, and the output of the fuel cell (water) goes back into the tank to be split again.
pittnat 9 months ago
The system that he is describing doesn't really consume any water at all, it is an almost completely closed loop. The water is split into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity, the hydrogen and oxygen are used in a fuel cell to produce electricity, and the output of the fuel cell (water) goes back into the tank to be split again.
pittnat 9 months ago
YES.
iamallthingslove 10 months ago
"You don't need energy from anybody else"....
That is the end of this idea.... Does anybody think that the nuke+oil+energy companies will let this kind of thing through? They have even resisted biogas plants etc... The point about energy is that it has to be decentralized. Go tell that to RWE or E-On.
Malaka57 10 months ago
Does this process consume a lot of water? How would you get around the issue of fresh water already being depleted? Could salt water be used with this technology?
john2knj 11 months ago
@john2knj Water holds a lot of hydrogen per volume. If this needs fresh water, just add a Solarball (cleans up to 3 liters per day).
VCat2006 11 months ago
@VCat2006 I'm thinking more in regards to large scale energy production to the extent that it may reduce our dependence on foreign oil. In order to produce that much energy would it require using huge quantities of our fresh water resources? If water use would be significant then it would cause even more rapid depletion of our water supplies.
john2knj 11 months ago
@john2knj I suppose you could use a passively cooled liquid salt thorium reactor to make water, power, and hydrogen (if pure hydrogen can be stored better than hydrogen in oil or ammonia and better than energy in batteries or pressure vessels) if there's no more pollution than a coal plant produces.
VCat2006 11 months ago
What happens to the water molecules?? If any water is lost, we would have to worry about drying up the planet.
tylerc217 11 months ago
@tylerc217 do you know how much water we have in comparation to fossil fuels?
ajvhan 10 months ago
@ajvhan We have more oil than we think we have. There's enough oil in Alaska alone to last the US for centuries. For some reason though, we're not allowed to tap into it. Also, there were two reserves (1 off the coast of Siberia, Russia, the other off the coast of Indonesia) tapped a few years ago. Combined, they are as big as the entire middle east put together.
There's plenty of oil, we just CANNOT afford to lose ANY water.
tylerc217 10 months ago
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brett20130676 10 months ago
@ajvhan
Get ready for the new Obama "water tax", that will be imposed to make up for the cash they lose in gas & coal taxes.
ACRScout57 9 months ago
stop talking and just show it
hoanglehoi 11 months ago
Cobalt? phosphate?
Is this really feasible in terms of mass production?
pokopekopun 11 months ago
This is exaclty what Japan needs right now. East Japan has been suffering from shortage of power supply since the massive earthquake. And recent nuclear reactor troubles make things worse. I strongly hope that this Sun-water generating power technology develops and gets industrially applied.
akoobee 11 months ago
2 oil lobbyists want this technology buried.
EnriqueLovinLife 11 months ago
Well now they just freaking did it....
Cheap materials, generate hydrogen and oxygen...
hellomate639 11 months ago
yay for Science!
jayman1466 11 months ago
Who The Fuk disliked this video?
ave383 11 months ago
@ave383 I kno right
1YungWarrior 11 months ago
This is awesome....and now Americans should travel to Europe to learn how to build properly insulated houses that need hardly any air conditioning (even at at hot temperatures) and they will need only 50% of the electricity they're using right now...now THAT would make a difference and would make this even better.
ultimazer1 1 year ago 2
ARPA-E
divajc 1 year ago
esperemos que este al alcance de la gente mas necesitada y no monopolizada en un par de empresas abusivas
Electrickl 1 year ago
Ever done something, and because nobody has done it before, nobody believes it can be done? A molecular structural change is one of them. Consider this, gas and liquid cannot occupy the same space, they will separate, when one is a gas, and the other is a liquid. If you find the saturation temperature of a liquid it will turn to a gas. I can take any liquid to any specific temperature, even above the said liquids boiling point. See it happen to gasoline. You Tube, White Gasoline Vapor. Read.
IAMBILLYTHEKID 1 year ago
...or have the public grow a fucking brain and stop electing political candidate 1 over political candidate 2 just because candidate 1 has millions more dollars in their campaign than 2 has. There is absolutely NOTHING stopping the fucked-up subhuman shithead public from pushing a fucking button in a voting booth for the Weedman to be governor of NJ rather than piece-of-shit Christie.
deskset24 1 year ago
Capitalism fails, because if you allow CEOs of corporations to make unlimted amounts of money, then they use that money in a positive feedback loop to campaign for politicians who vote for laws that allow CEOs even MORE money. Anyone who does not comprehend these logistics is either a liar or a complete shithead.
So, you either limit all income to $100K/year or less for EVERYONE - by law - by force..
deskset24 1 year ago
See his lecture at POPTECH
anzac68 1 year ago
Direct photolysis of water has been under research for at least forty years. See Bolton: Solar Power and Fuels (Academic Press, 1977) which summarized work up to that point. There are significant problems, and this video doesn't say what problem(s) they've solved at that suddenly make this technology practical.
piolenc 1 year ago 3
would love to see the tech in my house. Is there a do it yourself kit?
RayJoel2007 1 year ago
Yes.
kasuskasus 1 year ago
If this is true then we can expect a mysterious fire at the lab and unfortunate premature deaths among the staff.
johnnyb93 1 year ago
How long till they shelve this idea?
If it helps the lives of we peons, they will 86 it asap.
Coffeeandasmoke 2 years ago 2
I bet we'll never hear from this again.
a1mint 2 years ago
well they just got a 4 million dollar check, so i bet the'll use that to start manufacturing some working models
dagoogler01 2 years ago
30-square-meter photovoltaic array and 4 hour of Sun... for 30Kwh is lame
RadioCanadaZero 2 years ago
He sounds exactly like Fozzie Bear
theshadowkidd 2 years ago 20
@theshadowkidd
Leave it to a YouTube commenter to reduce even the most intelligently discussed social / environmental issues into mindless drivel.
QuantumAnomaly 8 months ago
Awesome! Can't wait to drive my sunshine and water-powered Jeep! =)
Lojikbom 2 years ago
Is that true?
alundrasrt 2 years ago
I have heard so many great ideas of alternative+green and hopefully cheap energy sources, but all these ideas disappear and we don't hear them again. how does it come? they run out of funding or these projects go into dead end as they don't reach expected results?
xep3haet 2 years ago
Assuming it was like what happened to the EVs made by GM and other companies when CARB in California made then invest in electric cars, then the oil companies and the companies that make money off the fossil fuels, including the car companies themselves, destroy the programs. Its a major flaw in capitalism, but whats the better alternative?
Conesarekoolyahoo 2 years ago
@Conesarekoolyahoo I think capitalism works fine as long as we can heavily regulate the government (i.e. no more money lobbying in congress, no promising corporate jobs after retirement, and if you donate to election committees, each individual US citizen should be aloud to donate no more than a fixed amountsay $50 or so). These laws should be enacted constitutionally immediately so that we stop electing money-hungry ego-driven pricks into office and start electing people who care.
seanotube85 1 year ago
They get silenced by the fuel and oil industry, duh! Good thing there is internet and information can be freely shared..... (for now).
fpelle716 2 years ago
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Kameon1234 2 years ago
@achzdck one thing you should realize is that engine has never been effectively recreated and it is possible to get 200 miles to gallon with engines however at a SEVERE reduction in power.
Dperez07 2 years ago
Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
geoffreyphilip 2 years ago
Yeah , look what happened to the guy that made the car that ran on water and gave off zero emissions and got crazy mileage. Even if the tire industry increased the circumference of the tires on autos it would improve gas mileage. None of these great ideas will come to fruition because of the oil lobby in DC. They will buy it up and stuff it in a closet that's full of great ideas and keep it from ever seeing the light of day.
H0VEN 2 years ago 2
nothing at all new here, photo cells generate electricity used to electolyze water , another 4 million wasted!
excel60 2 years ago
lol ur a joke man. you're saying something thats totally different to what this technology is about.
geoffreyphilip 2 years ago
@excel60 someone drank their haterade this morning
Dperez07 2 years ago
The truly wonderful thing about this technology is it uses an abundant resources (water and sunlight), and is non polluting... just like plants. Imitating nature is indeed the finest flattery.
WunderMaus 2 years ago
If you can reproduce this concept show me your video or blog.
JR4934 2 years ago
I could spruce up my house to be all solar for a million bucks from taxpayers. Bernanke, please, print me some money, too!
BlueSkies360 2 years ago
meh.
shampoovta 2 years ago
★★★★★
KASPLARFO 2 years ago
So what? This video is deceiving. He is using solar panels and storing the energy in electrolysis generated hydrogen. Why not just use a battery? The efficiency is still mainly limited by the solar panels anyway. The money spent by taxpayers on this is funding interesting science, but has nothing to do with improving the economy.
jwyrwas 2 years ago
Yeah, it does seem like just cheap electrolysis from glossing over their papers, but I think the point is that it's cheaper and/or lighter than batteries. The improving the economy part just comes from funding these peoples' jobs (which might be cut or fall through the cracks otherwise).
AySz88 2 years ago
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Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
geoffreyphilip 2 years ago
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Electrolysis is not what Nocera is doing. Electrolysis to split water requires more electrical energy than is gained by combusting or otherwise using the hydrogen gas generated. What he has been working on for however long is making a molecular catalyst that splits water either on its own or that requires less voltage than straight electrolysis. If he succeeds in this it will truly be an amazing accomplishment.
geoffreyphilip 2 years ago
Great, we pay them $4 million, so that one day, maybe if we're lucky, they'll charge us money for their product. Shouldn't we get investor kick backs?
promontorium 2 years ago
1:57 min look at the not 1, not 2 but 3 huge Electric boxes behind him. Why isn't he using his water bottles to power the lab?
trade350 2 years ago
Ya...forgive me for being cynical, but expect the oil companys to buy out this nonsense in record time.
Release the full specs and science on the net for free and let the tech be free for all, or expect "sudden heart attacks" straight across the board and the tech become buried in some desert vault for a century
SaturnFX 2 years ago
Free/Cheap Energy 4 everyone!
Yay!
It's a good time to be alive!
BIGBOY2TON 2 years ago 8
monoham1
your questions are the exact questions that everyone asked about Hybrids. Plus the government take the Tarp money that was payed back and use it to get these out there. Think of FDR and the bridges and highways.
vsheehan 2 years ago
yeh youre right, and i forgot to mention, how many tons of carbon does it save and will it be outdated by improvements in solar power stored in batterys or something in 10 years?
monoham1 2 years ago
Water = the worlds most abundant resource
JR4934 2 years ago
If this is real it totally puts the "Bloom Box" to shame.
JR4934 2 years ago
Actually, this would be the best technology to POWER a Bloom Box!
JR4934 2 years ago
Great work, good luck for all our sakes, thanks for the video, I'm glad this money went to this man. I hope he gets more if he needs it.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago 3
We need many more men like this! Let's support him, and hope he inspires others.
385Mercedes 2 years ago 4
i read 30 kilowatts in 4 hours? but realistically, how much does that cost to install this system and does the catylist run out and if so how much is a refill it when it runs out? whats the most ammount of energy this has generated so far in a day and how much did that system cost?
monoham1 2 years ago
Catalysts - by definition - aren't consumed in the reaction that they're accelerating, so it wouldn't theoretically have to be replenished. Dunno about the rest of your questions.
koolkeef 2 years ago
This looks pretty amazing!
Hopefully it goes somewhere unlike all the other promises of amazing technologies and cures we always hear about.
Good job!
teyzar 2 years ago
Nuclear Fussion boys.
Just isolate the reactors in a secure location, and reprocess the waste.
PigMine 2 years ago