In my book, any sticking pattern is correct if it works in a given situation, irrespective of whether another pattern is more commonly used .
Thinking again about the left/right-handed question, it seems to me that playing 4-4 on the snare drum in a press roll is the equivalent of playing the ride, hi-hat, etc. that way in similar patterns. Surely, therefore, Minor Hall and John Petters (and indeed I) play it RIGHT-, not left-, handed.
John's Youtube videos are essential watching for anyone wanting to learn Trad Jazz.
I don't think I'd quibble about which hand does the bounced strokes and which the 4-4 DBJustin. After all, it's the sound that matters.
I usually play PRs as John does, but a teacher says I am unusual, being a right-hander that plays them left- handed. His "left-handed" the opposite DBJustin's left-handed. I don't profess to know which is correct. I wonder, could John perhaps clarify this?
Ginger Baker sites Baby Dodds as a major influence. Apparently a member of the band Baker was in at the time, took him to a record shop, gave him several Baby Dodds LPs and said, "This is what we want you to play like." Other great drummers that have incorporated African rhythms in their drumming would be: Phil Seamen, Ginger Baker, Max Roach, Art Blakey and Elvin Jones.
Thanks for the information this was great. That style of playing is very over looked and is of course the foundation of all that we as drummers do. Thanks again.
This is cool!Baby Dodds was really good back in the day.Sad he left us the year i was born.I liked hearing the style you shared with us.Did he ever do full tom rolls? I like the toms because they sound almost like the kettle drum.The roll can almost make you think you hear the Tympani.Thanks for your demos! Brainy
well first your demonstration of the press role should have been done left handed to be totally accurate to baby dodds and babies messy triplets were called swiss army triplets which was a flamed tape in a triplet feel.
do you have an email address i would be happy to talk to you about babies style.
I absolutely loved that video. I wasn't very familiar with Baby Dodds and I found it very informative. I also enjoyed your drumming, and I have tried my best to utilize the Gene Kruppa fill from your other videos and I will try to learn the Baby Dodds fill/beat as well.
way to go papa john. very incisive for those that didn't know about baby dodds like you did. keep the videos coming. you get better and better everytime and every beat.
nice...thx for posting. not too much on here about this style of drumming.
GroffinTiffin 11 months ago
@GroffinTiffin Thanks everybody for the positive replies. Baby Dodds was very special.
johnpetters 11 months ago
I enjoyed listening to your description of Mr. Dodds, and your very musical and relaxed playing.
Well done.
jaschaheifetz 1 year ago
Than You for this wonderful demonstration!
klikonojazz 1 year ago
Very informative and well done. Thanks for your presentation.
webstercat 1 year ago
John, thank you for your reply.
In my book, any sticking pattern is correct if it works in a given situation, irrespective of whether another pattern is more commonly used .
Thinking again about the left/right-handed question, it seems to me that playing 4-4 on the snare drum in a press roll is the equivalent of playing the ride, hi-hat, etc. that way in similar patterns. Surely, therefore, Minor Hall and John Petters (and indeed I) play it RIGHT-, not left-, handed.
turnitback 1 year ago
John's Youtube videos are essential watching for anyone wanting to learn Trad Jazz.
I don't think I'd quibble about which hand does the bounced strokes and which the 4-4 DBJustin. After all, it's the sound that matters.
I usually play PRs as John does, but a teacher says I am unusual, being a right-hander that plays them left- handed. His "left-handed" the opposite DBJustin's left-handed. I don't profess to know which is correct. I wonder, could John perhaps clarify this?
turnitback 1 year ago
@turnitback Thanks for the comments.
I can't say which is correct.
Have a look at the clip of the Ory band with Minor hall. He is rolling with the left hand and beating 4 with the right.
johnpetters 1 year ago
@turnitback Can't post a link to the video but search for Ory's Muskrat Ramble from 1956
johnpetters 1 year ago
Wonderful playing.
shraunbone 1 year ago
@shraunbone Thank you!
johnpetters 1 year ago
grande john petters, sei stato fedelissimo a babydods, lo stile è quello, la posizione della batteria anche e soprattutto l'assenza del charleston
TheBabydodds 2 years ago
Ginger Baker sites Baby Dodds as a major influence. Apparently a member of the band Baker was in at the time, took him to a record shop, gave him several Baby Dodds LPs and said, "This is what we want you to play like." Other great drummers that have incorporated African rhythms in their drumming would be: Phil Seamen, Ginger Baker, Max Roach, Art Blakey and Elvin Jones.
TimBrianLaraLatham 2 years ago
excellent.
tytaniumboxhead 2 years ago
Hello John,
Thanks for the information this was great. That style of playing is very over looked and is of course the foundation of all that we as drummers do. Thanks again.
TBAGSHAW 2 years ago
Great playing! I really enjoyed that
miketalbot4 2 years ago
Damn ... that was sweet. Awesome video.
gitterfritter 2 years ago
This is cool!Baby Dodds was really good back in the day.Sad he left us the year i was born.I liked hearing the style you shared with us.Did he ever do full tom rolls? I like the toms because they sound almost like the kettle drum.The roll can almost make you think you hear the Tympani.Thanks for your demos! Brainy
brainman214 2 years ago
@brainman214 yeah who cares
hoodlum666 1 year ago
I Do.Dodds kicked in the day.Sad you"Don't Care",Brainy
brainman214 1 year ago
@brainman214, Who cares, Baby dodds used to do eckys on the drum kit.
hoodlum666 3 months ago
great video!!
OranjestaDrummer 2 years ago
and the style me and you seem to be studying
DrummerBoyJustin 2 years ago
well first your demonstration of the press role should have been done left handed to be totally accurate to baby dodds and babies messy triplets were called swiss army triplets which was a flamed tape in a triplet feel.
do you have an email address i would be happy to talk to you about babies style.
DrummerBoyJustin 2 years ago
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DrummerBoyJustin 2 years ago
I absolutely loved that video. I wasn't very familiar with Baby Dodds and I found it very informative. I also enjoyed your drumming, and I have tried my best to utilize the Gene Kruppa fill from your other videos and I will try to learn the Baby Dodds fill/beat as well.
RevWrona 3 years ago
way to go papa john. very incisive for those that didn't know about baby dodds like you did. keep the videos coming. you get better and better everytime and every beat.
drum30506 3 years ago
Well done John, a truly appropriate Baby Dodds lesson video. The other guys should take notes.
mgimino 3 years ago 4
Thank you Michael. This was a lot of fun to make & quite difficult to try to get the right feel. Baby's timing is something else!
johnpetters 3 years ago
That was fantastic. Amazing film, amazing playing and an amazing tribute. Interesting, informative, entertaining and good editing. I like it a lot.
noxiscool 3 years ago 5