Y Gan Gymraeg - Bryn Fon (geiriau / lyrics)

[szalard]

Scottland wants a referendum about independence in 2014. I hope Wales will do this soon! It deserves it more! At least Celtic culture and language lives more in Wales than in Scottland.

[DistantDreamer93]

@szalard

I don't see Wales going for independence any time soon, though, to be honest. Scotland is in a much stronger position than Wales - both politically and economically. I fear Wales still has a long way to go, yet! Well, Scottish/Celtic culture is still very much alive in Scotland - it's only the language that's sadly dying. Hopefully the Welsh language will not go the same way.

[3tangle3]

@DistantDreamer93 Wales isnt 'in' poverty. It has poverty imposed on it

[DistantDreamer93]

@3tangle3

Er, I never said Wales was 'in poverty', just said that Wales isn't in such a strong position from an economical point of view compared to that of Scotland. I know. London receives more money than all of Wales.

[3tangle3]

@DistantDreamer93 no its my little phrase I use.......it is not directed at you. sorry if you misunderstood me ;)

[Szczepek90]

Diddorol oedd honno! Dw i'n hoffi'r cysyniad y cân. Ond, yn wir, byddai'r Cymdeithas mor lwyddiannus pe tasent nhw ddweud "we have our own language" yn lle o "mae ein hiaith ninnau gyda ni" ?

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

Be wyt ti'n feddwl? / What do you mean? :)

[Szczepek90]

@DistantDreamer93

I knew that I won't get that right :) I meant: That was interesting! I like the concecept of the song. But, trully, would Cymdeithas have been so successful if it had said "we have our own language" in English instead of "mae ein hiaith ninnau gyda ni" in Welsh?

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

Ha ha, don't worry about it =P I'm not quite sure what you mean by the Cymdeithas part but, this song is more about singing songs in Welsh rather than English. There's a lot of ignorance when it comes to the Welsh language -- the English (not all of them, mind) just can't understand why we want to speak Welsh...

[Szczepek90]

@DistantDreamer93

The humorous line "ond toedd y gwrthrych ddim yn dallt ddim un gair o'r gan." made me think and theorize what would have happened if Cymdeithas had only preached in English to the English, that's all :) I like how the Welsh part is, as if, spoken by an Englishmen (what's the pointing of talking to me in Welsh which I don't understand?) while the Welsh part is sung in English taking mercy on (some of)those poor monoglots ;)

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

Oh! I understand what you mean now! Even so, I doubt they would've understood even if they had been preaching to them in English... they just simply don't understand that we have our own language and want to speak it! It's so frustrating to try and explain this to them - even today! He he, yes, that is very clever :P

[Szczepek90]

@DistantDreamer93

Ydy'r sefyllfa mor ddifrifol hyd yn oed nawr? Dych chi wedi penderfynu datganoli yn bellach - mae'r Saeson yn gwybod bod chi'n wahanol ac bod chi'n siarad eich iaith eich hunan...

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

Mae'r sefyllfa LLAWER gwell nac oedd hi yn ystod y 60au ond mae hi bell o fod yn berffaith. Mae gan yr iaith statws swyddogol yng Nghymru o'r diwedd, ond eto mae hi dal yn cael ei gwthio o'r neilltu (sidelined) yn aml. Ie, byse ti'n meddwl hynny ond cymer yr Alban er enghraifft -- gwlad sydd mewn sefyllfa gryfach na Chymru, ac eto tydi'r Saeson ddim yn deall pam nhw'n dymuno cael annibynniaeth. o_O

[Szczepek90]

@DistantDreamer93

Wel, mae'r rhywbeth sy'n fy synnu i hefyd. Dw i'n deall a gwybod a hoffai'r Alba ddim fod rhan o'r Deyrnas Unedig(would not want to be part of?) ond beth am yr economi? Dyma yr un rheswm pam Cymru ddim yn gallu cael annibynniaeth. Dim eto, o leiaf. Dw i'n meddwl dyma'r prif reswm. Mewn gwirionedd, Dywedodd Cameron bod y pobl yr Alban yn cael cael (may have?) referendwm am ymrannu o'r UK os oes eisiau arnyn nhw. (if they want to?)

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

O ran economi, mae'r Alban mewn sefyllfa gryf iawn dwi'n meddwl. Ydyn - mae refferendwm ar annibynniaeth i'r Alban am ddigwydd yn 2014 dwi'n credu a does gan David Cameron ddim yr hawl i wrthod hynny chwaith :)

[Szczepek90]

@DistantDreamer93 Hm, wrth i fi ddarlen am economi yr Alban, rhaid i fi gytuno a ti. Mae aml adnoddau naturiol gyda'r Alban. olew er enghraifft. Bydd hynny yn ddiddorol i weld - cenedl Geltaidd arall yn rhydd :) Hm, ond, cyn belled ag y gwn i, mae'r pobl yr Alban i fod i benderfynu os oes eisiau referendwm arnyn nhw hyd nes 2014 ac WEDYN effalai bydd un yn y pen draw. (are supposed to decide whether they want a referendum by 2014 and then there will possibly be one?)

[Szczepek90]

@Szczepek90 Ond efallai mod i'n anghywir, dw i ddim yn siwr.

[DistantDreamer93]

@Szczepek90

Hollol.Petai'r Alban yn annibynnol dwi'n grediniol y buasai hi'n wlad lwyddiannus a chryf. Pe baen nhw'n cael annibynniaeth mi fysa hynny'n dangos Gymru ei fod o'n bosibl i ninnau hefyd fod yn annibynnol. Dwi'n credu y bydd rhaid i ni benderfynu beth ydyn ni eisiau i ddigwydd - bodoli fel Cymru, yn rhydd ac annibynnol, neu marw fel rhan o'r DU/Loegr. Allen ni ddim parhau fel hyn am byth. Dwi'n credu fod yr SNP wedi penderfynu ar 2014 fel y flwyddyn i gynnal y referendwm?

[3tangle3]

i'r gad! ;)

[WiwerGoch]

Hoffi'r gan 'ma :D

[DistantDreamer93]

@WiwerGoch

Diolch am dy sylw! Oni bron a rhoi llun ohonach chdi yn protestio efo CYI yn y fideo...ond wedyn meddwl well i mi beidio ;) trololol