The Illiad and Odyssey were far from the "first sign of European intelligence," but as long as he's asking the question... Where was black Africa in 850 BC? Almost 3,000 years away from being civilized, and even then from European contact. As different as Egypt was from Europe, the differences between Egypt and black Africa were far greater.
@MrMcGuire1000 Yes this is true The Minoans had a pre-palacial civilisation a thousand years before Greece. Egypt had very little part to play in the building of Crete and you only have to look up the Minoans on the net to see their culture was more akin to the Mesopotamians than Egypt. I blame education I have just been speaking with an Afrocentric on another thread who assures me that the first Americans were West Africans who walked across when the world had one land mass Pangaea!!!!!
Yup, and the Afrocentrist you were chatting with was too friggin stupid to realize that the continents were all one land mass hundreds of millions of years before humanity even existed, but such things don't matter to them. If they want to believe it, they'll believe it.
@MrMcGuire1000 In 850 BC, black Africa had already produced the Nok culture in the west and the Africans had established settlements in what would later be the Ghana Empire. It was also during this time that the Nubians began to free themselves from Egyptian rule and in the next century the Nubians would conquer Egypt and produced Egypt’s last truly great dynasty. This is where black Africa was during this time. Clearly they weren't 3000 years away from civilization...
BASICALLY in the DARK AGES?? i believe DARK AGES refers to their infinite capacity for MISUNDERSTANDING & IGNORANCE. The Christian Crusades, Burning Witches, Slaughtering 1000s during the BLACK PLAGUE. We kill with Chemical Weapons, Atomic Bombs. Send Cruise missiles around the world. Destroying whole families & clans. While calling THEM terrorist. RON PAUL the best of them, rejects climate Change. America has become a POLICE STATE. We're still in the DARK ages.
After NETFLIX days later on THE HISTORY CHANNEL I saw a Doc. on the PHARAOHS. 3000 yrs ago. Anthropologist working with mummies, bone structure, drawing, skull facial renditions, statues & art, Everybody everything looked BLACK. Then when they switched to live actors, everything became WHITE. Here in the 21st Century???? Blatant Historical Racism???
I began to watch a documentary of Queen Nefertiti last night on Netflix. It was narrated by Alfre Woodard, a Black actress. Demonstrating some acknowledgment, acceptance, consideration improvement & respect. Since the days of Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton. But the actress personifying NEFERTITI was as white as LIZ TAYLOR. CLEO may have been Greek! But NEF was 3000 yrs old. Dr Clarke has said Greece invaded Egypt only 1000 yrs ago. So I turned it OFF!
What a pile of steaming horse shit!!!! The Nile Valley was NOT the origin of civilization that was nearly a thousand miles to the east in the Fertile crescent, in between the rivers Tigris and Euphrates, Sumeria and Mesopotamia started their civilizations about 1800 years before Egypt was begun! The black guy on this video is a liar!
@greeny202a Africa is the birth place of civilization. There has recently been found a 160-200K yr old civilization in S. Africa. Also the Nile Valley Civilization goes back at least 30K yrs ago as there is the Neolithic and Paleolithic time periods. Also there is Predynastic and the Zep Tepi times. DNA has even confirmed that S. East Africa is the origin of Egyptians. Their DNA can be even traced back to haplogroup A - DNA which is the oldest DNA known to man.
@HeruTutankhamun 160-200k?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?!? BULLSHIT!!!! Humans were nothing more than primitive hunter gatherers at this stage!!!! As for Ancient Egyptian DNA you are either lying or you have been totally mislead by a bogus site because (and listen to this next part carefully) - - - NOBODY ON EARTH HAS EVER HAD ACCESS TO ANY ANCIENT EGYPTIAN DNA! Seriously bro stop looking at the Afrocentric websites they are worse than the creation web sites!!
@greeny202a That website that has the 160-200K yr old civilization is not an Afrocentric website. It was put together by your own white boy brother hood. And as far as hunter gatherers even today we are considered hunter gatherers because farmers still have to gather the food so it can make it to your damn eating plate. As far as AFROCENTRIC it was the 1st point of view of the Earth. And we are the elders of the Earth which means we override your BULLSHIT LIES!
@HeruTutankhamun NO NO NO NO NO!!! The term "hunter.gatherers" refers to tribal groups of nomadic hunters who followed their prey around and did not make permanent settlements much the same as some African tribes still do today (SAN) Humans carried on with this primitive lifestyle right up until the advent of AGRICULTURE in Eastern Europe and the Middle East between 16,000 and 12,000 years ago. Im sorry but there was no great worldwide African culture before this as romantic as that may be.
@greeny202a Agriculture started in AFRICA. Domestication of animals started in Africa which is why one of the first deities was Hathor who is symbolized with the golden calf. With out the agriculture of Africa and the migration out of Africa all the other races would not have even came about.
@HeruTutankhamun Oh dear! Look if you are just going to keep insisting that everything started in Africa then there is no point trying to help you. Have you Googled "Gobekli Tepe" yet???????? Its a temple complex dated to 12,000 BC your telling me the Asians that built this didnt know how to plant wheat?????? Now you are just being foolish.
@greeny202a Dude the 1st people over in Asia were Africans. Have you really studied the Out of Africa journey? On how mankind originated in Africa then migrated out to other lands & eventually over time as genetic mutations took place due to the environment other races came about. If you knew a thing about genetics it takes time for mutations to evolve.So technically the 1st people in Asia were Africans. Same people different location. Just like Africans in America. Same ppl different location.
@greeny202a Do you realize that technically Europeans are still in the Dark Ages? Basically Europeans are just finding out about civilizations that Africans knew about long time ago. I wonder why....because they were there to build them and see them prosper. The Egyptians priest even told the Greek named Solon after he called the Hellenes children, that many civilizations have come and gone and many more will come and go.
=Do you realize that technically Europeans are still in the Dark Ages? =
Do you realize that, technically, European descendants were literally walking on the moon while some black African societies were still in the stone age? Do you realize that, technically, black African societies were almost the last to be civilized?
@MrMcGuire1000 Africans were civilized millions of yrs ago as we had order & laws of the land. There as been info leaked that a space ship was found on the moon & inside the ship was a woman who appeared to look African. If it was not for the Moors leaving Africa and going to Europe the Europeans would still be living in barns and 99% of the population would still be illiterate. Face it Europeans are going extinct due to low fertility rates and the growing population of other races.
Do you have any idea how delusional you appear when you write things like that? Millions of years ago humans were barely in existence and nowhere close to being civilized - or even upright. The oldest ANY civilization dates back to is 5 or 6000 years ago.
@greeny202a Nice try but your post is another lie. From wiki "Around 16,000 BCE, from the Red Sea hills to the northern Ethiopian Highlands, nuts, grasses and tubers were being collected for food. By 13,000 to 11,000 BCE, people began collecting wild grains. This spread to Western Asia, which domesticated its wild grains, wheat and barley. Between 10,000 and 8000 BCE, northeast Africa was cultivating wheat and barley and raising sheep and cattle from southwest Asia."
@greeny202a And the original people over in Eastern Europe and so called Middle East were Africans. There were no such thing as a Caucasian nor an Arab circa 16K yrs ago. White people are a recent addition to humankind. They did not come about until circa 6K yrs ago via last Ice Age. And still they were few in numbers. It would have taken time for them to populate in order for them to make any impact in history. Which is why Greece, Rome and Celts are mainly last BCE early AD civilizations.
@greeny202a From wiki "This theory is supported by a study into the SLC24A5 gene which found that the allelle associated with light skin in Europe may have originated as recently as 6,000–10,000 years ago which is in line with the earliest evidence of farming" So how can there be a big boom in agriculture amongst Caucasians aka Europeans when 16K yrs ago when their race is only 6-10K yrs old? The Egyptian priests said it best "O Solon, O Solon you Hellenes/Greeks are children"
@greeny202a The biggest gift or accomplishment a mother can give to her child is the gift of life itself. AFRICA the motherland has done that so cherish & give thanks to it as without Africa you would not be here.
@HeruTutankhamun Man you have serious racism issues! Believe me you will never learn the truth when you have sooooo much bias against Europeans. Good luck with your research, but i fear it will only lead you to more African websites... I will say one last thing, everywhere on earth where civilisation struck - Europe, China, Middle East, Native America it remains to this day (it never dies) If as you say it started in south east Africa WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO IT?????????????????????????????
@greeny202a Even in Africa today tribes such as the Hammer wear the feather of Maat which their ancestors the Egyptians wore. Even women of Sub Sahara Africa ie Himba women wear red ochre just like the Egyptians did. So I guess you are one of those white boys who think that 5K yrs ago white people migrated out of Europe into hot ass S. East Africa then migrated up to Egypt bypassing Nubia and started building pyramids? C'Mon BOY you are a fuckin fool for believing in that.
@greeny202a Could U imagine some white folks with their shirts off in hot ass Africa ie Egypt in the Sahara building pyramids? Them white folks would have fried the hell up due to skin cancer. They would not have lasted a month. I'm sure the creator of the entire universe knew what it was doing when it placed black people, Africans in general ie from jet black to golden in Africa vs white people. White people were not built to last in hot environments...get over it!
@HeruTutankhamun My friend you really don't understand that "modern" human existence started in central Asia about 16,000 years ago! You sound like you actually want to learn so try this Google "Gobekli Tepe" and just look at it. This is the oldest temple complex found anywhere on earth! It is in southern Turkey and was constructed 12,000 years ago! Twice as old as anything in Africa. Africa is the home of the human race but as far as civilisation goes I'm afraid Africa played a very small part.
@greeny202a No modern Homosapiens which means "Wise thinking man" which we call today humans came about some 150-200K yrs ago.DNA & skeleton remains has proved it. BBC has recently done a documentary on it. There was no white people 12K yrs ago.The 1st modern humans in Europe were Africans which is why Nubian Grimaldi skeletons have been found in Grimaldi Italy. At least 70% of history of mankind took place in Africa. The Liberal Arts originated in Africa plenty of scholars have wrote about this
@HeruTutankhamun NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Again you are misunderstanding science the mitochondrial eve ancestor that lived 150,200K yrs ago was anatomically modern yes but certainly not inteligent! They were simple hunter gatherers! What you fail to understand is physically we have been the way we are now for about 250,000 years but mentally only about 30,000
@greeny202a Ancient Egypt was built by black Africans. Their origins are from S. East Africa ie Kush/Nubia/Ethiopia, Punt, and the region around Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda in the Lake of Fire region near Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Rwenzori. Africans we are diverse we do come in different hues ie jet black, chocolate brown, reddish brown, gold. We are the most diverse ethnic group on the Earth we have had plenty of time to become diverse since we are the oldest people on the Earth
@HeruTutankhamun HUE HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH ANYTHING!! Anyone who lives in a sunny climate has dark skin!!!! What you are asking is were Egyptians NEGROID answer NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@greeny202a And many scholars have come to find that Horemaket (Sphinx) is way older than once thought. Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock your white brothers have stated that the Sphinx has to be at least 12K yrs old. Which makes sense as the weather of the Sphinx was caused by water and the last time it was that wet in Egypt was after the last ice age period some 12K years ago. Also the last time constellation Leo was on the horizon was about 12K yrs ago.
@HeruTutankhamun Yes all assumptions and assertions im afraid! Look Egypt was a great civilisation but it was not the greatest and CERTAINLY not the oldest. The biggest problem I think you have in your research is that you are assuming that because humans were in Africa first that it follows that civilisation came to Africa first well im afraid that simply is not true! Why can you not give the Central Asians their credit as I, as a European have done? Civilisation started in the middle east.
@greeny202a Even cranium examinations have been conducted on Arsinoe (Cleopatra sister) & they have come to find that her skull matches those of black Africans & ancient Egyptians. Now a smart person would be able to connect the dots & see that the Egyptians were of black African descent as they had elongated skulls. Besides white people are only about 6K yrs old. Recent studies have shown that the whitening of the skin took place about 6K yrs ago amongst Europeans. U guys are children!
@greeny202a And the worse creations have been movies like The Mummy and 10 Commandments which have shown Imhotep as a demonic mummy and Egyptians as white folks. Oh also that Moses waved some magic wand and separated the Red Sea right after he used that same wand and changed it to a snake that ate another snake. Cleopatra staring Liz Taylor was horrible as well basically it was WHITE people trying to white wash Africa, Egypt in particular.
@greeny202a So I guess 50 yrs from now a bunch of white people will get together & say they created rap music & Vanilla Ice or Eminem is the founder of it? But in reality there won't be too many white people around as recent numbers show that white people are now minorities in the USA. They already have been minorities globally. Hey U guys are losing clout! Dying out like Neanderthals. Which means the end of the FORKED TONGUE AKA LIES!
@HeruTutankhamun Are you actually reading my posts? READ THE LAST ONE AGAIN. Look listen to this very carefully. Europeans had NOTHING to do with ancient Egypt but NEITHER DID NEGROIDS! So why are you so concerned with a civilisation that had nothing to do with you? I dont care about Egypt because it was NOT the first! I say again Google "Gobekli Tepe" look at it and realize that this temple complex was built by Eurasians 12,000 years ago !!
=Europeans had NOTHING to do with ancient Egypt but NEITHER DID NEGROIDS!=
Exactly, and it's the inferiority complex of some black people that is driving this absolutely ridiculous effort to a) portray the Egyptians as black when they weren't, and b) to make Egypt into some kind of futuristic mega-civilization that it wasn't.
@MrMcGuire1000 Yes I know their arguments are becoming crazier by the day! They are not adverse to being (shall we say) economical with the truth either! have you seen his bullshit about DNA confirming Egyptian Negroid ancestry? Scientists have not been allowed to test any DNA from the mummies yet the only DNA we have tested are from the graves of the workers on Khufus pyramid, they showed Somalid/Berber ancestry and we don't actually know if they were from Egypt or not.
=Yes I know their arguments are becoming crazier by the day!=
True. Basically, any and all Afrocentric assertions are not just factually wrong, but delusional. They start off with claiming Egypt was predominantly black when it wasn't, then compound that infraction by making all kinds of wild claims about Egypt. Egypt was great enough without the mountain of BS that's been added to it by delusional Afrocentrists.
@MrMcGuire1000 I can understand them wanting to make a history for themselves post slavery but the craziness they are coming up with defies belief, they don't seem to understand how big Africa is, the closest west African country to Egypt was Nigeria which is 2500 miles across the Sahara, even Rome is only 1000 miles away! BTW Have you heard of Bobby Hemmitt??? If not do a YouTube search for "human artificial bobby hemmitt" and just listen to his ramblings, its quite entertaining.
=they don't seem to understand how big Africa is,=
And the concept that not all of Africa is or was black is completely lost on them, by intent. Them taking credit for Egypt's civilization would be like a Russian taking credit for Chinese civilization because they're on the same land mass. Insanity. Be that as it may, Egypt was not the origin of Western civilization. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find two more different civilizations.
Halogroup DNA for AA,AB, and Caribbeans * L3e1 - Central Africa origin and is found in Algeria, Cameroon, Angola,[13] Mozambique, Sudanese and Kikuyu from Kenya as well as in Yemen. * L3e5 - Originated in the Chad Basin but found in Burkina Faso, Nigeria, South Tunisia, South Morocco and Egypt.
@darrell180 MtDNA L2a is also found in Egypt and even found in African Americans so it shows you how far our great mother DNA has traveled. Which makes sense as Africans traveled over here to America way before Columbus. But even if you count the slave trade, the Sahara slave trade was conducted by Arabs in Egypt. So one has to wonder that many Africans were A) pushed further West & eventually part of the Transatlantic slave trade B) Came over to USA prior to Saharan & TransAtlantic slave trade
@HeruTutankhamun *facepalm* Look you are simply misunderstanding the epochs here! The Egyptian epoch was between 4000-500 BC the L1 ancestral DNA you are talking about was 50,000 years ago you are making a link between Egypt and the early African ancestor, that is ridiculous!!!!!!
DON'T YOU ALL SEE THAT, THEY WILL EVEN TRY TO DISCREDIT YOU THE THE WORDS: DNA, WEST AFRICANS ETC. THESE ARE NEW TERMS THAT THEY JUST CAME UP WITH IN THE LAST 25YEARS. THIS IS WHAT THEY TRY TO USE DISCREDIT YOU OF YOUR RIGHTFUL KNOWLEDGE AND MOST OF THEM HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA MUCH LESS LEAVING NORTH AMERICA. MANY OF THEM ARE SHOCKED TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A HISTORY THAT GOES BEYOND 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY; 400YEARS IS NOTHING IN HISTORY.
PLEASE BLACK PEOPLE, DON'T ARGUE WITH THESE WHITE RACIST CULTURE BANDITS; THEY ARE NOT WORTH YOUR TIME. DON'T YOU SEE THAT YOUR TIME CAN BE PUT TO BETTER USE! THESE WHITE CULTURE BANDITS WILL DO ANYTHING TO DISCREDIT YOU AND AFRICAN CULTURE AND UNDERSTANDING; THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROGRAMME TO DO BY THEIR VERY OWN MASTERS;THEY CAN'T HELP IT;THIS IS THEIR VERY NATURE. JUST CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IN YOUR CULTURE BECAUSE IT IS NOT THEIRS AND THEY KNOW IT! PLEASE DON'T ARGUE WITH THESE JEALOUS BEINGS.
@daniels37 these savages try to discredit african culture and glory because they know the very basis of european culture to this day..are nothing but mere copies from the original.from technology to a commen fly swatter..the fall of africa brought forth the rise of europe...thats why these savages try to hard to discredit africans..because they know africans are the only people that could put an end to this evil genius that has infected the world with wars.desiease,rape and religion....
@skatering42 also the world is afriad of africans coming into power..what they managed to do in those ancient times still unmatched today poses a real threat to the entire european power stuture...in those meetings they have as to why they must keep afirca in disorder.an obvious answear can be.if that could accomplish so much in those days.imagine what they can accomplish in this so called modern age.africans can completely push europeans and arabs out of power.
There is always something, or someone who comes frist, and if all life came frist out of Africa, it would stand to reason that everything else came from there...First!!
Well within a few days the Zahi Hawass the Head Curator of Egypt will reveal the DNA and Cat scans test results of TUT and his family and we shall find out.
The problem with your distrust is simple, if Hawass was to lie it would tarnish his legacy and if nothing else historians don't want that in this modern age of Fast Mass Media.
@bmaniggyjunior , The last name that we were under given by self was Moor/Muur/Mauro, Look at the etymology of the word black, and u will see it's a middle ages/1500's word, it's new and with law, its a label and holds a 2nd class status, Blk/wht have nothing to do with skin complexion, but govt status. We r not taught law, therefore we go about things assuming social terms work both ways, but they do not. Blk when u talk amongst friend etc is one thing, in law its void.
@chandler06 But as long as ppl continue to use pseudo labels, like african-amer/blk/ negro(which is back on the census) it allows u to call urself by a label, no true identity. Same thing to so called latinos, on census it says hispanic is not a ethnicity, but want ppl to continue to call themselves by that name. It's really about law, which like I said earlier we r not taught, thn given labels by europeans which we have now embraced. Send me a message and I can send u to some vids here to help
@chandler06 it is not uncommon to label groups due to apperance, and it is natural, it happens in Africa where people in one country may have varying difference in genetics. You can't say its because Europeans gave labels. Well you can, but it would be wrong to make out it's europeans 'fault' if thats what you're meaning.
@chandler06 ah true, but who gave us the name moor? the latin, moor ment from Mauretania, were not all from mauretania, modern day algeria, morroco, maritania and Mauritania, and not even all the moors were blakc, some were berber, sum arab, muslim, although the original inhabitants of the land were black yes, i hav no problem calling myself black, the only thing i would rather call myself is an african word for black, since im not african i dont no any off by hand..
@bmaniggyjunior thats just the disconnect, not sure wher u r, but the u.s. was called northwest africa, hence the missippi, where ou find a cairo and memphis just like the nile where too, u will find a memphis and cairo, and a lot of cities with names like algiers, new orleans, and morocco, indiana and carthage , illinois, u r home, thats just it. Ill send u some stuff .
@chandler06 that dun make sense, i dont even live in us.. and the us is noooo africa. completely different places, usa is babylon, shitstem, africa is zion
@bmaniggyjunior baria is black in Amharic, sadly enough it is generally not seen as a positive thing in Ethiopia where light skin is seen as more special, so to call someone Baria seem to be usually a friendly joke rather than a compliment.
Obviously you don't understand the concept of melanin or have respect for science! The mummies contain a measurable amount that shows they were BLACK people!
very since, its been down hill! LOL, I hate 2 admit that but its true! We had shit LOCKED! Please, give me some feedback. And I dont wanna hear that "descend 2 the throne" shit. I wanna know WHY?
We probably dont know the whole shit because we were not even meant to know the stuff we do know. I have got a search out for one of cheikh ant Diop's books in my library and it still has not come back because copies are so rare.. But a greek philosophy book by say plato dating back a few thousand years would probably be on the same library's shelves .
Look, I c stuff all the time about the origin of Egypt/kemet but, why dont I c anything about the DECLINE of egypt! We all know those where r ancestors and they where "black" ( Nubians, actually ) but what I wanna know is why did they started mixing? No one never answers this. Why did they start fucking ( literally ) with the Greeks when they where already more advance in the sciences,mathematics, cultivation etc? Why start fucking with other ppl? Shit, that was the beginning of the end 4 us!
Don't forget...at that time...The concept of race didn't exist. People back than were defined by nation, tribe, religion, or family. The reason why they race mixed is because as J.A Rogers once said,"NATURE KNOWS NO COLOR LINE". We freely mixed with white people because we had never known about a people who could be so wicked.
@WorldwideTVShow: ok, I can buy that, that sounds plausible. cause this whole thing called "race' is recent sort 2 speak. Basically, it was implemented during the slave trade 2 justify abducting black/brown ppl ( that god damn "De Le Casus" ) prior 2 that point in history, "racism' isn't spoke of.
white folk having descended from black africans recessive genes ...were rejected or cursed and banded together to walk out of egypt as (e)gypsies.and a karma may or maynot have been pronounced on blacks for not accepting their strange progeny.nevertheles as the good dr said nubia had seen its heyday by time europe was in diapers.the concept of (plenty)money became synonymous with absence of pigment
as slavery replaced humanitarianism .this in turn made miscegenation popular way to get ahead
2dkoda- I have been looking at the role of albinism, which was ancient leprosy. I have found very little to support my thinking. I did come across a writing pointing to a leper colony helping to overthrow Egypt. I am going to focus my research on this area. We know so-called whites came from so-called blacks, but I want to know how it played out. The hardest thing is to get past these European lies. You are one of the few people that address this issue
@msking1991: Like i said, i know about alexander but no one has still provided a rational answer as 2 WHY did the Egyptians start messing with ppl that where allegedly inferior 2 them. And whats with the "seek & u shall find" comment? That's very pretentious of u.
@edupbeat where did you see it that the egyptians viewed them as inferior and seriously we need to view it contextually egypt was around for 3000 yrs it can be viewed like the romans who looked at the germans with complete disdain as uncivilized yet in a few hundred yrs those barbarians destroyed Rome
The claim of DIop's skin pigmentation test has never been proven. His test has never been published, replicated, falsified. That dark skinned Egyptians existed is not in dispute. But neither is the fact that all Egyptians were not dark skinned. In fact, Lower Egypt, was more than likely lighter than Upper of Egypt.
You are right -all Egyptians were not of dark skin people.
In the tome of the Ramses there was a drawing of the different races in Egypt.
Chienk Anta Diop acknowledge that was so. He also stated that those races of people left Africa for other parts of the world and took on the climatic changes of that area..
I am amused when certain people try to claim the aincient Egyptians were not black africans. The Egyptians were descended from the nubians and kushites who migrated into southern Egypt+ eventually moved North. Nubians+Kushites Ethopians and Sudanese in 20th century geography. How could Ethipians + Sudanese 8000 years ago be anything other than black africans?
Of course groups from asia+ Europe later came to Egypt, but this was thousands of years after the civilisaton had been established...
Egypt is the daughter of Ethiopia. The peoples of Egypt migrated from the core of Africa over the course of many years and settled along the Nile river. This was the beginning of what we now call Egypt.
Ancient Egypt was not a nation of blacks (nergo's). As for this melanin test...ha. We all, thats black, white, red, pink etc, have melanin in our skin. Melanocyte's are the cells of melanin (pigment).
Melanism/Melanosis is the condition marked by an abnormal deposit of melanin and we ALL can suffer from Melanoma's. Melanoma:
a malignant tumour arising in ANY pigment containing tissues.
My Question for Black people is.. If these people raped you, Hated you, Enslaved you, Burned you, Burnt Your books, stole your History, Raped your mother, Beheaded your resistant father/uncles.. Beat your kids and raped your sons and daughters (yes homosexuality was present), Injected A.I.DS into your brothers.. Why on the Latter... Would they give you a Assured ticket to everlasting paradise (bible) ?
because the bible is a continuation of all of those things you stated...they knew physical slavery wouldnt last forever so they implemented the worst kind of slavery of all time... MENTAL SLAVERY (THE BABLE, I MEAN THE BIBLE!!!)
Because, they so-called say the beginning of civilisation was Greece, Israel and Rome.
Oh really, I am not going to bowed to their narrow minded beliefs, because I know that Egypt and Ethiopia all started the birth of our civilisation and long before Europe and the Middle East of Asia.
Would they give you a Assured ticket to everlasting paradise (bible) ?
It's because the BIBLe wasn't writen by African it's was writen by Romen. ok and during the anicent time anicent Egyptan they never believe in christanatiy , they used to kill christan.
Check the first chapter of Preach's piece ONEMAN, on youtube under ONEMANiAM-It's just the first CHAPTER/SOUL,of 7 in his one man stage show this 1st chapter is in 6 sections-The entire work movement and dialogue is structured in an improvised/stream of consciousness format-Designed as such to preserve it's visceral integrity, raw, honest,passionate,invective and extremely provocative-Enter the realm where beginnings and endings coalesce and spawn destinies...ONEMAN!!!
Are you this worried about your race? Last I checked all those technologies you mentioned are produced by Chinese, Japanese, etc.. and not Europeans. There you go again stealing ideas that's not yours and taking the glory. I have every reason to be racist but I'm not as close minded sorry.
What a silly comment. Would you consider all of the modern conveniences, technologies, and education that these 'caucasian pundits' have spread all over the world negative, as well?
I have, I also heard of Divide and Conquer! That's the concept that the White Europeans used, and what this White Western Civiliazation use today. So nappynerd's comments are accurate, and proof to that is when the Chinese decided to have their resolution to get their Chinese "Uncle Toms" out of their influence, and today, China is the most powerful country in the world no matter how bad America smears it in its media!
Then I expect you to get rid of your car, television, phone, computer, your home, and everything else that these 'white devils' are responsible for. Anything less would be just hypocritical. Can you walk the walk, or are you just talking shit?
China is not the most powerful country in the world. Actually, the US armed forces are twice as powerful as all other nations' armed forces combined. China is still a third world nation.
Prepare to take orders from China and Japan, and oooh... by the way, better humble yourself and be quiet when you go to borrow some money from them, uh..uh more deficit and we are broke!. And oh.. by the way they run the ports and so make more room for their goods "Made in China"
The US is not a third world nation. However if we continue to be overrun by illiterate, unskilled primarily Latin illegal immigrants, the US will be a colony of the third world nation called Mexico. And then the US will be a third world nation.
Us is " third world" as you understand the term, in as much as it lacks humanity, compassion and as such is backwards in its attitudes to other peoples and cultures,as demonstrated by your comments.
I didn't make up the term first world or third world. Nor am I responsible for the large numbers of unskilled, illiterate Latino immigrants flooding into the US by the millions. It is a fact that if you import tens of millions of unskilled, non English speaking iliterates into a first world nation, at some point that nation becomes a third world nation. It is the people living there who make a nation first world or third world. The land is just land.
And your theory even is agains black-centrist theories abot Persian, Rome, Greece etc. colonization of North Africa since the last Millenium before CHRIST(it is History), to explain whites in North Africa, or the vision of Europeans about North Africa before XV Century or vandal(Germanic) People well know invasion after the fall of Rome, all this before XV Century.
English doesn't seem to be your first language. And neither is common sense. Seems all you Eurocentrics are learning impaired.
I keep doing this same spiel for each one of you. Here goes.
HUMANITY --not just blacks but people period!-- began in Africa. Not Asia, not Europe. At some point these blacks struck out into the world. Time and climate would change their appearance. Sadly it didn't change their internal nature.
Blacks have the genetic markers for ALL human traits. Whites only have one.
Any way Guanches(Arqui-Ancient white and rose People with Blue or brown eyes in Canarys Islands) or Berbers-Lybians North Africans in the time of the First Egyptian Dinasties were Caucasoid and even White(according to Egyptians walls about Lybians).
And maybe were blacks decendents in Europe also that became white, or not, but the fact is that they all aroud World. Genetic Cro-Magnon mtDNA in American Indians Ojibua Tribe - sorry I can´t spell(15.000BC), skeleton European Remains(One in United States and a group in Mexico) from the time of Bering Asian theor- that mainstream still ignore open space to the discredit of today historicism with the goal of not disturbing theories. Blacks and Whites all over the world.
The earliest human fossils, found ALL over the world BTW, are ALL African-type. Not even one white-type. Before the 15th century there were NO blondes or pale skinned people outside of Europe.
You said light-skin was everywhere but Africa, right? The aborigenes of Australia were there for 100's of thousands of years. Are THEY light-skinned? The Dravidians of India, (Dalits today) who were India's first people are direct African descendants. You don't know your anthropology. So please STFU.
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haha. you couldn't me more wrong about white people out side of europe . research "tocharians".
it's hard to classify what is human, and what is a primitive hominid. cro-magnon are not always considered the same as todays people, and they already resembled caucasian.
the earliest hominids were found in africa, but they were definitely not negroids. they were the type from where all humanity divided, and it did not resemble any human race of today. hell, it could have had a fur on its back.
Avatarion. Notice the more you argue the more you admit I'm right? You've admitted the earliest hominids came from Africa that settles the debate right there! And as for your "type where humanity divided" nonsense...
Google Most Recent Common Ancestor. There you'll find ALL the genetic evidence you could want, from white scholars, proving a black female is what man "divided" from.
The first humans were from Africa and they were black. The first explorers, societies and nations --all black.
"Before the 15th century there were NO blondes or pale skinned people outside of Europe."
Blonde People, Red and brown hair People equal to many Europeans were found in East China - dated + 5000 years ago. Central Asia, Kasakistan etc.(Eurasia) are one of its origins(also in tradition).
Europe(west of Eurasia as a whole), Near East and North Africa are white-light skinned People`s points of colonization(maybe origin also).
If they are not or are the first humans it is other question.
First of all there are PLENTY of blacks and other people of color with blonde/red colored hair. Africans used henna dye to color their hair also and this plant is found in the same places you just mentioned.
Whites were NOWHERE outside of Europe before the 15th century. I know your sugar-candy world gets rocked whenever the lies of yesteryear are knocked down by the facts of today, but the key is acceptance.
All scientists defend the origin of the majority of Europeans(Indo-Europeans branch in case) in Central and Est Asia, proved by Archeology, genetic and Oral and writen history from wet Europe to India(India in specialy) maybe you want re-write all history lol.
Google Tocharians in China(they were white buried with some Mongoloid types at their side - in the same land, is not in only the hair they were caucasoid, but in fisic)
that is land of East Asians and Eurasians, Indo-Europeans etc., not Negroids, please, don´t say rubish.
Eurasia -Acept the fact.
And Ancient and today Berbers have U5 HG European connect to some Near Easterns also in Asia -with Cro-magnon connection. not southern Africa
"Whites are the last branch of the human family" - don´t matter for the case in particular neither relevant, but it is only a theory. We have no any definitivily link to out of Africa for all.
To all of you racist pricks!! Go to google type in the search engine: "Europeans turn pale only recently, genes suggest"
When you accept reality , then you will understand that your white skin is as new as maybe 6000 to 12,000 b.c.e , some say 6000 to 7000 b.c.e ,
But i'll give you pale barbarians the benefit of the doubt, maybe 12,000 ,regardless the pale gene is a recent morphology, everything before then still had black skin and resembled Australians, Africans or Melanesians!!!!
they didn't resemble negroids just a few thousand years ago. if you have any clue what is anthropology, then you should know that skulls with caucasian features (cro magnon) have existed for tens if not hundreds of thousands years.
6000 years to develop white skin? that's a nice theory. somehow i just don't think it's likely for light skin tone to spread all over the world from japan to middle east to spain and heavily populate the world except africa in that time.
Africans were first. The Grimaldi Man is 50,000years old, Lucy is MILLIONS! The first white-type is only 4-8KYA
The MAJORITY of people on the earth are dark-skinned and black haired, why do you think that is? You're the first white man desperate enough to reclassify the Indians, South Americans, Melanasian et al as white. Any port in a storm. Dr James Watson himself, the father of genetics, traced humanity back to Africa, not Asia/Europe. Any science you can name supports this.
lucy is not even a human, so it's not a black person. lucy is just as much white as it is black. in timeboth races divided from it.
please point out where i tried to say all those people you listed are supposedly white? i never in my life have thought so.
you're obviously too dumb to realize that what i said is to point out the white (skin) migrated everywhere around the world (except americas), which should suggest that the 6000 years could be a very dubious theory.
Avatarion. You said "i just don't think it's likely for light skin tone to spread all over the world from japan to middle east to spain and heavily populate the world except africa in that time."
Your ignorant comments posits the idea that whites were the original man or that (snicker) white genes are "dominant." Half the population of Brazil are blacks. Light skinned people are fewer than dark-skinned. They are "all over the world" only due to post-Columbus immigration. Learn your history.
what are you rambling about? i never said whites are the original man or that their allele is dominant. you're making things up.
since you brought it, that whites have recessive genes, how do you think they could have possibly migrated so fast all over in so little time? if it's a small mutation it would take much longer than 6000 years to do so. if high melanin dominated the world prior to the mutation, light skin color would have no chance spreading over.
The Illiad and Odyssey were far from the "first sign of European intelligence," but as long as he's asking the question... Where was black Africa in 850 BC? Almost 3,000 years away from being civilized, and even then from European contact. As different as Egypt was from Europe, the differences between Egypt and black Africa were far greater.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@MrMcGuire1000 Yes this is true The Minoans had a pre-palacial civilisation a thousand years before Greece. Egypt had very little part to play in the building of Crete and you only have to look up the Minoans on the net to see their culture was more akin to the Mesopotamians than Egypt. I blame education I have just been speaking with an Afrocentric on another thread who assures me that the first Americans were West Africans who walked across when the world had one land mass Pangaea!!!!!
greeny202a 3 months ago
@greeny202a
Yup, and the Afrocentrist you were chatting with was too friggin stupid to realize that the continents were all one land mass hundreds of millions of years before humanity even existed, but such things don't matter to them. If they want to believe it, they'll believe it.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@MrMcGuire1000 In 850 BC, black Africa had already produced the Nok culture in the west and the Africans had established settlements in what would later be the Ghana Empire. It was also during this time that the Nubians began to free themselves from Egyptian rule and in the next century the Nubians would conquer Egypt and produced Egypt’s last truly great dynasty. This is where black Africa was during this time. Clearly they weren't 3000 years away from civilization...
infox1000 2 weeks ago
BASICALLY in the DARK AGES?? i believe DARK AGES refers to their infinite capacity for MISUNDERSTANDING & IGNORANCE. The Christian Crusades, Burning Witches, Slaughtering 1000s during the BLACK PLAGUE. We kill with Chemical Weapons, Atomic Bombs. Send Cruise missiles around the world. Destroying whole families & clans. While calling THEM terrorist. RON PAUL the best of them, rejects climate Change. America has become a POLICE STATE. We're still in the DARK ages.
jor99912 4 months ago
After NETFLIX days later on THE HISTORY CHANNEL I saw a Doc. on the PHARAOHS. 3000 yrs ago. Anthropologist working with mummies, bone structure, drawing, skull facial renditions, statues & art, Everybody everything looked BLACK. Then when they switched to live actors, everything became WHITE. Here in the 21st Century???? Blatant Historical Racism???
I Turned it OFF!
jor99912 4 months ago
I began to watch a documentary of Queen Nefertiti last night on Netflix. It was narrated by Alfre Woodard, a Black actress. Demonstrating some acknowledgment, acceptance, consideration improvement & respect. Since the days of Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton. But the actress personifying NEFERTITI was as white as LIZ TAYLOR. CLEO may have been Greek! But NEF was 3000 yrs old. Dr Clarke has said Greece invaded Egypt only 1000 yrs ago. So I turned it OFF!
jor99912 4 months ago
What a pile of steaming horse shit!!!! The Nile Valley was NOT the origin of civilization that was nearly a thousand miles to the east in the Fertile crescent, in between the rivers Tigris and Euphrates, Sumeria and Mesopotamia started their civilizations about 1800 years before Egypt was begun! The black guy on this video is a liar!
greeny202a 6 months ago
@greeny202a Africa is the birth place of civilization. There has recently been found a 160-200K yr old civilization in S. Africa. Also the Nile Valley Civilization goes back at least 30K yrs ago as there is the Neolithic and Paleolithic time periods. Also there is Predynastic and the Zep Tepi times. DNA has even confirmed that S. East Africa is the origin of Egyptians. Their DNA can be even traced back to haplogroup A - DNA which is the oldest DNA known to man.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun 160-200k?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?!? BULLSHIT!!!! Humans were nothing more than primitive hunter gatherers at this stage!!!! As for Ancient Egyptian DNA you are either lying or you have been totally mislead by a bogus site because (and listen to this next part carefully) - - - NOBODY ON EARTH HAS EVER HAD ACCESS TO ANY ANCIENT EGYPTIAN DNA! Seriously bro stop looking at the Afrocentric websites they are worse than the creation web sites!!
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a That website that has the 160-200K yr old civilization is not an Afrocentric website. It was put together by your own white boy brother hood. And as far as hunter gatherers even today we are considered hunter gatherers because farmers still have to gather the food so it can make it to your damn eating plate. As far as AFROCENTRIC it was the 1st point of view of the Earth. And we are the elders of the Earth which means we override your BULLSHIT LIES!
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun NO NO NO NO NO!!! The term "hunter.gatherers" refers to tribal groups of nomadic hunters who followed their prey around and did not make permanent settlements much the same as some African tribes still do today (SAN) Humans carried on with this primitive lifestyle right up until the advent of AGRICULTURE in Eastern Europe and the Middle East between 16,000 and 12,000 years ago. Im sorry but there was no great worldwide African culture before this as romantic as that may be.
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a Agriculture started in AFRICA. Domestication of animals started in Africa which is why one of the first deities was Hathor who is symbolized with the golden calf. With out the agriculture of Africa and the migration out of Africa all the other races would not have even came about.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun Oh dear! Look if you are just going to keep insisting that everything started in Africa then there is no point trying to help you. Have you Googled "Gobekli Tepe" yet???????? Its a temple complex dated to 12,000 BC your telling me the Asians that built this didnt know how to plant wheat?????? Now you are just being foolish.
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a Dude the 1st people over in Asia were Africans. Have you really studied the Out of Africa journey? On how mankind originated in Africa then migrated out to other lands & eventually over time as genetic mutations took place due to the environment other races came about. If you knew a thing about genetics it takes time for mutations to evolve.So technically the 1st people in Asia were Africans. Same people different location. Just like Africans in America. Same ppl different location.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a Do you realize that technically Europeans are still in the Dark Ages? Basically Europeans are just finding out about civilizations that Africans knew about long time ago. I wonder why....because they were there to build them and see them prosper. The Egyptians priest even told the Greek named Solon after he called the Hellenes children, that many civilizations have come and gone and many more will come and go.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun
=Do you realize that technically Europeans are still in the Dark Ages? =
Do you realize that, technically, European descendants were literally walking on the moon while some black African societies were still in the stone age? Do you realize that, technically, black African societies were almost the last to be civilized?
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@MrMcGuire1000 Africans were civilized millions of yrs ago as we had order & laws of the land. There as been info leaked that a space ship was found on the moon & inside the ship was a woman who appeared to look African. If it was not for the Moors leaving Africa and going to Europe the Europeans would still be living in barns and 99% of the population would still be illiterate. Face it Europeans are going extinct due to low fertility rates and the growing population of other races.
HeruTutankhamun 3 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun
=Africans were civilized millions of yrs ago=
Do you have any idea how delusional you appear when you write things like that? Millions of years ago humans were barely in existence and nowhere close to being civilized - or even upright. The oldest ANY civilization dates back to is 5 or 6000 years ago.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun
=There as been info leaked that a space ship was found on the moon & inside the ship was a woman who appeared to look African.=
Sheer, unbridled craziness. Are you sure it wasn't Sentinel Prime???
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@greeny202a Nice try but your post is another lie. From wiki "Around 16,000 BCE, from the Red Sea hills to the northern Ethiopian Highlands, nuts, grasses and tubers were being collected for food. By 13,000 to 11,000 BCE, people began collecting wild grains. This spread to Western Asia, which domesticated its wild grains, wheat and barley. Between 10,000 and 8000 BCE, northeast Africa was cultivating wheat and barley and raising sheep and cattle from southwest Asia."
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a And the original people over in Eastern Europe and so called Middle East were Africans. There were no such thing as a Caucasian nor an Arab circa 16K yrs ago. White people are a recent addition to humankind. They did not come about until circa 6K yrs ago via last Ice Age. And still they were few in numbers. It would have taken time for them to populate in order for them to make any impact in history. Which is why Greece, Rome and Celts are mainly last BCE early AD civilizations.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a From wiki "This theory is supported by a study into the SLC24A5 gene which found that the allelle associated with light skin in Europe may have originated as recently as 6,000–10,000 years ago which is in line with the earliest evidence of farming" So how can there be a big boom in agriculture amongst Caucasians aka Europeans when 16K yrs ago when their race is only 6-10K yrs old? The Egyptian priests said it best "O Solon, O Solon you Hellenes/Greeks are children"
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a The biggest gift or accomplishment a mother can give to her child is the gift of life itself. AFRICA the motherland has done that so cherish & give thanks to it as without Africa you would not be here.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun Man you have serious racism issues! Believe me you will never learn the truth when you have sooooo much bias against Europeans. Good luck with your research, but i fear it will only lead you to more African websites... I will say one last thing, everywhere on earth where civilisation struck - Europe, China, Middle East, Native America it remains to this day (it never dies) If as you say it started in south east Africa WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO IT?????????????????????????????
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a Even in Africa today tribes such as the Hammer wear the feather of Maat which their ancestors the Egyptians wore. Even women of Sub Sahara Africa ie Himba women wear red ochre just like the Egyptians did. So I guess you are one of those white boys who think that 5K yrs ago white people migrated out of Europe into hot ass S. East Africa then migrated up to Egypt bypassing Nubia and started building pyramids? C'Mon BOY you are a fuckin fool for believing in that.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a Could U imagine some white folks with their shirts off in hot ass Africa ie Egypt in the Sahara building pyramids? Them white folks would have fried the hell up due to skin cancer. They would not have lasted a month. I'm sure the creator of the entire universe knew what it was doing when it placed black people, Africans in general ie from jet black to golden in Africa vs white people. White people were not built to last in hot environments...get over it!
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun My friend you really don't understand that "modern" human existence started in central Asia about 16,000 years ago! You sound like you actually want to learn so try this Google "Gobekli Tepe" and just look at it. This is the oldest temple complex found anywhere on earth! It is in southern Turkey and was constructed 12,000 years ago! Twice as old as anything in Africa. Africa is the home of the human race but as far as civilisation goes I'm afraid Africa played a very small part.
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a No modern Homosapiens which means "Wise thinking man" which we call today humans came about some 150-200K yrs ago.DNA & skeleton remains has proved it. BBC has recently done a documentary on it. There was no white people 12K yrs ago.The 1st modern humans in Europe were Africans which is why Nubian Grimaldi skeletons have been found in Grimaldi Italy. At least 70% of history of mankind took place in Africa. The Liberal Arts originated in Africa plenty of scholars have wrote about this
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Again you are misunderstanding science the mitochondrial eve ancestor that lived 150,200K yrs ago was anatomically modern yes but certainly not inteligent! They were simple hunter gatherers! What you fail to understand is physically we have been the way we are now for about 250,000 years but mentally only about 30,000
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a Ancient Egypt was built by black Africans. Their origins are from S. East Africa ie Kush/Nubia/Ethiopia, Punt, and the region around Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda in the Lake of Fire region near Mt Kilimanjaro and Mt Rwenzori. Africans we are diverse we do come in different hues ie jet black, chocolate brown, reddish brown, gold. We are the most diverse ethnic group on the Earth we have had plenty of time to become diverse since we are the oldest people on the Earth
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun HUE HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH ANYTHING!! Anyone who lives in a sunny climate has dark skin!!!! What you are asking is were Egyptians NEGROID answer NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a And many scholars have come to find that Horemaket (Sphinx) is way older than once thought. Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock your white brothers have stated that the Sphinx has to be at least 12K yrs old. Which makes sense as the weather of the Sphinx was caused by water and the last time it was that wet in Egypt was after the last ice age period some 12K years ago. Also the last time constellation Leo was on the horizon was about 12K yrs ago.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun Yes all assumptions and assertions im afraid! Look Egypt was a great civilisation but it was not the greatest and CERTAINLY not the oldest. The biggest problem I think you have in your research is that you are assuming that because humans were in Africa first that it follows that civilisation came to Africa first well im afraid that simply is not true! Why can you not give the Central Asians their credit as I, as a European have done? Civilisation started in the middle east.
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a Even cranium examinations have been conducted on Arsinoe (Cleopatra sister) & they have come to find that her skull matches those of black Africans & ancient Egyptians. Now a smart person would be able to connect the dots & see that the Egyptians were of black African descent as they had elongated skulls. Besides white people are only about 6K yrs old. Recent studies have shown that the whitening of the skin took place about 6K yrs ago amongst Europeans. U guys are children!
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a And the worse creations have been movies like The Mummy and 10 Commandments which have shown Imhotep as a demonic mummy and Egyptians as white folks. Oh also that Moses waved some magic wand and separated the Red Sea right after he used that same wand and changed it to a snake that ate another snake. Cleopatra staring Liz Taylor was horrible as well basically it was WHITE people trying to white wash Africa, Egypt in particular.
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@greeny202a So I guess 50 yrs from now a bunch of white people will get together & say they created rap music & Vanilla Ice or Eminem is the founder of it? But in reality there won't be too many white people around as recent numbers show that white people are now minorities in the USA. They already have been minorities globally. Hey U guys are losing clout! Dying out like Neanderthals. Which means the end of the FORKED TONGUE AKA LIES!
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun Are you actually reading my posts? READ THE LAST ONE AGAIN. Look listen to this very carefully. Europeans had NOTHING to do with ancient Egypt but NEITHER DID NEGROIDS! So why are you so concerned with a civilisation that had nothing to do with you? I dont care about Egypt because it was NOT the first! I say again Google "Gobekli Tepe" look at it and realize that this temple complex was built by Eurasians 12,000 years ago !!
greeny202a 4 months ago
@greeny202a
=Europeans had NOTHING to do with ancient Egypt but NEITHER DID NEGROIDS!=
Exactly, and it's the inferiority complex of some black people that is driving this absolutely ridiculous effort to a) portray the Egyptians as black when they weren't, and b) to make Egypt into some kind of futuristic mega-civilization that it wasn't.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@greeny202a
=160-200k?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?!? BULLSHIT!!!!=
Exactly. And in a response to me he just said "millions of years ago." Tomorrow it'll probably be billions. It seems to be a growing delusion.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@MrMcGuire1000 Yes I know their arguments are becoming crazier by the day! They are not adverse to being (shall we say) economical with the truth either! have you seen his bullshit about DNA confirming Egyptian Negroid ancestry? Scientists have not been allowed to test any DNA from the mummies yet the only DNA we have tested are from the graves of the workers on Khufus pyramid, they showed Somalid/Berber ancestry and we don't actually know if they were from Egypt or not.
greeny202a 3 months ago
@greeny202a
=Yes I know their arguments are becoming crazier by the day!=
True. Basically, any and all Afrocentric assertions are not just factually wrong, but delusional. They start off with claiming Egypt was predominantly black when it wasn't, then compound that infraction by making all kinds of wild claims about Egypt. Egypt was great enough without the mountain of BS that's been added to it by delusional Afrocentrists.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
@MrMcGuire1000 I can understand them wanting to make a history for themselves post slavery but the craziness they are coming up with defies belief, they don't seem to understand how big Africa is, the closest west African country to Egypt was Nigeria which is 2500 miles across the Sahara, even Rome is only 1000 miles away! BTW Have you heard of Bobby Hemmitt??? If not do a YouTube search for "human artificial bobby hemmitt" and just listen to his ramblings, its quite entertaining.
greeny202a 3 months ago
@greeny202a
=they don't seem to understand how big Africa is,=
And the concept that not all of Africa is or was black is completely lost on them, by intent. Them taking credit for Egypt's civilization would be like a Russian taking credit for Chinese civilization because they're on the same land mass. Insanity. Be that as it may, Egypt was not the origin of Western civilization. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find two more different civilizations.
MrMcGuire1000 3 months ago
it hurst my heart to see arabs in egypt today..claiming thats its their home...
skatering42 8 months ago 2
Halogroup DNA for AA,AB, and Caribbeans * L3e1 - Central Africa origin and is found in Algeria, Cameroon, Angola,[13] Mozambique, Sudanese and Kikuyu from Kenya as well as in Yemen. * L3e5 - Originated in the Chad Basin but found in Burkina Faso, Nigeria, South Tunisia, South Morocco and Egypt.
darrell180 8 months ago
@darrell180 MtDNA L2a is also found in Egypt and even found in African Americans so it shows you how far our great mother DNA has traveled. Which makes sense as Africans traveled over here to America way before Columbus. But even if you count the slave trade, the Sahara slave trade was conducted by Arabs in Egypt. So one has to wonder that many Africans were A) pushed further West & eventually part of the Transatlantic slave trade B) Came over to USA prior to Saharan & TransAtlantic slave trade
HeruTutankhamun 4 months ago
@HeruTutankhamun *facepalm* Look you are simply misunderstanding the epochs here! The Egyptian epoch was between 4000-500 BC the L1 ancestral DNA you are talking about was 50,000 years ago you are making a link between Egypt and the early African ancestor, that is ridiculous!!!!!!
greeny202a 4 months ago
cheikh anta diop is my hero. god bless that man. and john henrik clarke for extending awareness of this man to the united states.
edscottable 10 months ago
God bless this man ! truth is so refreshing to hear in a world full of lies ! this truth frees our mind from evil peace
HarlemKnightTV100 10 months ago
@GiggleHz he is blind...
walker1981walker 11 months ago
It is important for us to learn our stories before we leave the house, then we will know how to act and what to do.
MrJackson62 1 year ago
maybe if that black feller would open his eyes he could see how foolish he is lolol
GiggleHz 1 year ago
@GiggleHz Maybe the Europeans can tell us some more of our stolen information mixed with their THEORIES, LOL!!!
SiriusMoor9 11 months ago
@GiggleHz maybe if you closed your mouth people would stop sticking dicks in it.
4zahra 8 months ago
DON'T YOU ALL SEE THAT, THEY WILL EVEN TRY TO DISCREDIT YOU THE THE WORDS: DNA, WEST AFRICANS ETC. THESE ARE NEW TERMS THAT THEY JUST CAME UP WITH IN THE LAST 25YEARS. THIS IS WHAT THEY TRY TO USE DISCREDIT YOU OF YOUR RIGHTFUL KNOWLEDGE AND MOST OF THEM HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA MUCH LESS LEAVING NORTH AMERICA. MANY OF THEM ARE SHOCKED TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A HISTORY THAT GOES BEYOND 400 YEARS OF SLAVERY; 400YEARS IS NOTHING IN HISTORY.
daniels37 1 year ago
PLEASE BLACK PEOPLE, DON'T ARGUE WITH THESE WHITE RACIST CULTURE BANDITS; THEY ARE NOT WORTH YOUR TIME. DON'T YOU SEE THAT YOUR TIME CAN BE PUT TO BETTER USE! THESE WHITE CULTURE BANDITS WILL DO ANYTHING TO DISCREDIT YOU AND AFRICAN CULTURE AND UNDERSTANDING; THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROGRAMME TO DO BY THEIR VERY OWN MASTERS;THEY CAN'T HELP IT;THIS IS THEIR VERY NATURE. JUST CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IN YOUR CULTURE BECAUSE IT IS NOT THEIRS AND THEY KNOW IT! PLEASE DON'T ARGUE WITH THESE JEALOUS BEINGS.
daniels37 1 year ago 11
@daniels37 these savages try to discredit african culture and glory because they know the very basis of european culture to this day..are nothing but mere copies from the original.from technology to a commen fly swatter..the fall of africa brought forth the rise of europe...thats why these savages try to hard to discredit africans..because they know africans are the only people that could put an end to this evil genius that has infected the world with wars.desiease,rape and religion....
skatering42 8 months ago
@skatering42 also the world is afriad of africans coming into power..what they managed to do in those ancient times still unmatched today poses a real threat to the entire european power stuture...in those meetings they have as to why they must keep afirca in disorder.an obvious answear can be.if that could accomplish so much in those days.imagine what they can accomplish in this so called modern age.africans can completely push europeans and arabs out of power.
skatering42 8 months ago 2
this not his-story ---its our story told by us
tamaduni 1 year ago
Truth through scientific research must always prevail in order to free the minds and spirit of all men.
Very interesting find for a white Canadian of Western Euro descent. May the light shine !
Thanks for posting.
sebas28mtl 1 year ago
I"m not only human I'm HUE-MAN
HabboStic 1 year ago
I am not Canadian, Pakistani, African, White, Brown, Black or Yellow or any other ethnicy, race or nationality. I am Human first and foremost.
pillypopper 1 year ago
So mankind came from Africa, so civilization must have come from Africa too.
Makes sense right?
If people started in Africa, then so did everything else...
Yeah, except mankind began in Africa about 175,000 years ago, and civilization began about 10,000 years ago.
DrunkenPoetic 1 year ago
This is black history
Jabari971 1 year ago
There is always something, or someone who comes frist, and if all life came frist out of Africa, it would stand to reason that everything else came from there...First!!
specialbusingwasgood 1 year ago
...MA'AT HOTEP...!
GoddessQueen4life 1 year ago
Well within a few days the Zahi Hawass the Head Curator of Egypt will reveal the DNA and Cat scans test results of TUT and his family and we shall find out.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 I don't trust that Hawass
kuongjah7 1 year ago
The problem with your distrust is simple, if Hawass was to lie it would tarnish his legacy and if nothing else historians don't want that in this modern age of Fast Mass Media.
Boukephalos1 1 year ago
@Boukephalos1 I guess...
kuongjah7 1 year ago
Kemet, is a great place, and black ppl, need to give up the "black" know thy self. Good job Wesley Snipes for the narrating.
chandler06 1 year ago
@chandler06 I don't think so.
kuongjah7 1 year ago
@chandler06 wut are we iif not black? african? yes, but were black, whites are european , we stil say white, black and proud.
bmaniggyjunior 1 year ago
@bmaniggyjunior , The last name that we were under given by self was Moor/Muur/Mauro, Look at the etymology of the word black, and u will see it's a middle ages/1500's word, it's new and with law, its a label and holds a 2nd class status, Blk/wht have nothing to do with skin complexion, but govt status. We r not taught law, therefore we go about things assuming social terms work both ways, but they do not. Blk when u talk amongst friend etc is one thing, in law its void.
chandler06 1 year ago
@chandler06 But as long as ppl continue to use pseudo labels, like african-amer/blk/ negro(which is back on the census) it allows u to call urself by a label, no true identity. Same thing to so called latinos, on census it says hispanic is not a ethnicity, but want ppl to continue to call themselves by that name. It's really about law, which like I said earlier we r not taught, thn given labels by europeans which we have now embraced. Send me a message and I can send u to some vids here to help
chandler06 1 year ago
@chandler06 it is not uncommon to label groups due to apperance, and it is natural, it happens in Africa where people in one country may have varying difference in genetics. You can't say its because Europeans gave labels. Well you can, but it would be wrong to make out it's europeans 'fault' if thats what you're meaning.
wyrda222 1 year ago
@chandler06 ah true, but who gave us the name moor? the latin, moor ment from Mauretania, were not all from mauretania, modern day algeria, morroco, maritania and Mauritania, and not even all the moors were blakc, some were berber, sum arab, muslim, although the original inhabitants of the land were black yes, i hav no problem calling myself black, the only thing i would rather call myself is an african word for black, since im not african i dont no any off by hand..
bmaniggyjunior 1 year ago
@bmaniggyjunior thats just the disconnect, not sure wher u r, but the u.s. was called northwest africa, hence the missippi, where ou find a cairo and memphis just like the nile where too, u will find a memphis and cairo, and a lot of cities with names like algiers, new orleans, and morocco, indiana and carthage , illinois, u r home, thats just it. Ill send u some stuff .
chandler06 1 year ago
@chandler06 that dun make sense, i dont even live in us.. and the us is noooo africa. completely different places, usa is babylon, shitstem, africa is zion
bmaniggyjunior 1 year ago
@bmaniggyjunior usa is fuked, but africa a mess also
wyrda222 1 year ago
@bmaniggyjunior baria is black in Amharic, sadly enough it is generally not seen as a positive thing in Ethiopia where light skin is seen as more special, so to call someone Baria seem to be usually a friendly joke rather than a compliment.
wyrda222 1 year ago
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Blacks are the only race on earth that think that eygptians wer black.
Eygptians were not swing on trees using drugs. They were great thinkers architects and scientist. Something the rest of africa lacks.
CaptainGOP 2 years ago
Obviously you don't understand the concept of melanin or have respect for science! The mummies contain a measurable amount that shows they were BLACK people!
CGwithEd 2 years ago 7
Essential viewing. Very poignant what he says from 8:03 .
heru1966 2 years ago
very since, its been down hill! LOL, I hate 2 admit that but its true! We had shit LOCKED! Please, give me some feedback. And I dont wanna hear that "descend 2 the throne" shit. I wanna know WHY?
edupbeat 2 years ago
We probably dont know the whole shit because we were not even meant to know the stuff we do know. I have got a search out for one of cheikh ant Diop's books in my library and it still has not come back because copies are so rare.. But a greek philosophy book by say plato dating back a few thousand years would probably be on the same library's shelves .
jide1000 2 years ago
Look, I c stuff all the time about the origin of Egypt/kemet but, why dont I c anything about the DECLINE of egypt! We all know those where r ancestors and they where "black" ( Nubians, actually ) but what I wanna know is why did they started mixing? No one never answers this. Why did they start fucking ( literally ) with the Greeks when they where already more advance in the sciences,mathematics, cultivation etc? Why start fucking with other ppl? Shit, that was the beginning of the end 4 us!
edupbeat 2 years ago
Don't forget...at that time...The concept of race didn't exist. People back than were defined by nation, tribe, religion, or family. The reason why they race mixed is because as J.A Rogers once said,"NATURE KNOWS NO COLOR LINE". We freely mixed with white people because we had never known about a people who could be so wicked.
WorldWideTVShow 2 years ago
@WorldwideTVShow: ok, I can buy that, that sounds plausible. cause this whole thing called "race' is recent sort 2 speak. Basically, it was implemented during the slave trade 2 justify abducting black/brown ppl ( that god damn "De Le Casus" ) prior 2 that point in history, "racism' isn't spoke of.
edupbeat 2 years ago
white folk having descended from black africans recessive genes ...were rejected or cursed and banded together to walk out of egypt as (e)gypsies.and a karma may or maynot have been pronounced on blacks for not accepting their strange progeny.nevertheles as the good dr said nubia had seen its heyday by time europe was in diapers.the concept of (plenty)money became synonymous with absence of pigment
as slavery replaced humanitarianism .this in turn made miscegenation popular way to get ahead
2dkoda 2 years ago
2dkoda- I have been looking at the role of albinism, which was ancient leprosy. I have found very little to support my thinking. I did come across a writing pointing to a leper colony helping to overthrow Egypt. I am going to focus my research on this area. We know so-called whites came from so-called blacks, but I want to know how it played out. The hardest thing is to get past these European lies. You are one of the few people that address this issue
123bigr 2 years ago
alexander the great spelt the end of egyptian society................seek and u shall find
msking1991 2 years ago
@msking1991: Like i said, i know about alexander but no one has still provided a rational answer as 2 WHY did the Egyptians start messing with ppl that where allegedly inferior 2 them. And whats with the "seek & u shall find" comment? That's very pretentious of u.
edupbeat 2 years ago
i have NEVER heard that...will look into it though Thanks. and btw how is saying seek and you shall find pretensive?
msking1991 2 years ago
what exactly do u mean by messing? cus im thinking taking advantage of.
msking1991 2 years ago
@edupbeat where did you see it that the egyptians viewed them as inferior and seriously we need to view it contextually egypt was around for 3000 yrs it can be viewed like the romans who looked at the germans with complete disdain as uncivilized yet in a few hundred yrs those barbarians destroyed Rome
richbullva 2 years ago
Europeans just dont want to give anyone of african descedent their respect due.
iTS CALLED FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET.
MrCHICAGOSFINEST1975 2 years ago 3
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peasah2005 2 years ago 2
I luv this man like my grandfather. HOTEP!
refee00 2 years ago
The claim of DIop's skin pigmentation test has never been proven. His test has never been published, replicated, falsified. That dark skinned Egyptians existed is not in dispute. But neither is the fact that all Egyptians were not dark skinned. In fact, Lower Egypt, was more than likely lighter than Upper of Egypt.
Salsassin 2 years ago
The were lighter not white
sanlees 2 years ago
LOL. Who is truly White? The populations that come close are even a minority in Europe.
Salsassin 2 years ago
You are right -all Egyptians were not of dark skin people.
In the tome of the Ramses there was a drawing of the different races in Egypt.
Chienk Anta Diop acknowledge that was so. He also stated that those races of people left Africa for other parts of the world and took on the climatic changes of that area..
cltdaletiz 2 years ago
I am amused when certain people try to claim the aincient Egyptians were not black africans. The Egyptians were descended from the nubians and kushites who migrated into southern Egypt+ eventually moved North. Nubians+Kushites Ethopians and Sudanese in 20th century geography. How could Ethipians + Sudanese 8000 years ago be anything other than black africans?
Of course groups from asia+ Europe later came to Egypt, but this was thousands of years after the civilisaton had been established...
07091102 2 years ago 3
land of punt=Somalia
Somalia =E1b1b
rimpick 2 years ago
Egypt is the daughter of Ethiopia. The peoples of Egypt migrated from the core of Africa over the course of many years and settled along the Nile river. This was the beginning of what we now call Egypt.
natureboyisin 2 years ago 5
dont hate what is going on now help make a difference today and bring on great people who have that same belief
kjabrea 2 years ago
Ancient Egypt was not a nation of blacks (nergo's). As for this melanin test...ha. We all, thats black, white, red, pink etc, have melanin in our skin. Melanocyte's are the cells of melanin (pigment).
Melanism/Melanosis is the condition marked by an abnormal deposit of melanin and we ALL can suffer from Melanoma's. Melanoma:
a malignant tumour arising in ANY pigment containing tissues.
krissyeh 2 years ago
So why did they depict themselves as black Africans, genius?
keilyngodson26 2 years ago 3
They don't
krissyeh 2 years ago
you hate yourself
kjabrea 2 years ago
My Question for Black people is.. If these people raped you, Hated you, Enslaved you, Burned you, Burnt Your books, stole your History, Raped your mother, Beheaded your resistant father/uncles.. Beat your kids and raped your sons and daughters (yes homosexuality was present), Injected A.I.DS into your brothers.. Why on the Latter... Would they give you a Assured ticket to everlasting paradise (bible) ?
Prodigies 2 years ago
because the bible is a continuation of all of those things you stated...they knew physical slavery wouldnt last forever so they implemented the worst kind of slavery of all time... MENTAL SLAVERY (THE BABLE, I MEAN THE BIBLE!!!)
MASTER027063 2 years ago 10
The Bible has being fabricated.
Because, they so-called say the beginning of civilisation was Greece, Israel and Rome.
Oh really, I am not going to bowed to their narrow minded beliefs, because I know that Egypt and Ethiopia all started the birth of our civilisation and long before Europe and the Middle East of Asia.
peasah2005 2 years ago 3
do you forget moses and how he freed the hebrews from the egyptians and their beliefs in dieties like osiris, isis, ankh etc?
deletemepleez 2 years ago
freed? kidding?
msking1991 2 years ago
Would they give you a Assured ticket to everlasting paradise (bible) ?
It's because the BIBLe wasn't writen by African it's was writen by Romen. ok and during the anicent time anicent Egyptan they never believe in christanatiy , they used to kill christan.
Atiiy 2 years ago
You need to ask white people questions. You are not fit to ask questions to a more complex being such as an African.
keilyngodson26 2 years ago
I'm lost. I am an African!
Prodigies 2 years ago
lol
tw1704 2 years ago
Wow...how can you deny this information?
amanishaketo9 2 years ago
ten thousand years b4 europe emerged -no wonder the sphnx looks like my uncle
tamaduni 2 years ago 4
solomon himself called himself black
tamaduni 2 years ago 4
where?
Steadno 2 years ago
persiapersian, fuck you too, you bloody Arab dog. Stinky sand beaner.
MacLeongaway 2 years ago
amphotep, shut the fuck up, you got punked.
MacLeongaway 2 years ago
Only A Fool ducks When The Truth Is Thrown At Them
couzinric999 3 years ago 16
Liars too, lol, u r so right, hotep!
xanmere 2 years ago
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ONEMANiAM 3 years ago
Aridaemus
Are you this worried about your race? Last I checked all those technologies you mentioned are produced by Chinese, Japanese, etc.. and not Europeans. There you go again stealing ideas that's not yours and taking the glory. I have every reason to be racist but I'm not as close minded sorry.
ballymo85 3 years ago
This guy couldn't find his ass with both hands.
Aridaemus 3 years ago
i think u trying to talk about you
Fagza 3 years ago
Is that a sentence? You can't even talk, FAGza. lol
Aridaemus 3 years ago
Excellent video! We need more of this on youtube.
plenty2say 3 years ago 2
Why does it seem that where ever Caucasian Pundits (LMAO tryin to be like McCain)go...something negative always happens to the native people?
nappynerd 3 years ago
What a silly comment. Would you consider all of the modern conveniences, technologies, and education that these 'caucasian pundits' have spread all over the world negative, as well?
Aridaemus 3 years ago
I have, I also heard of Divide and Conquer! That's the concept that the White Europeans used, and what this White Western Civiliazation use today. So nappynerd's comments are accurate, and proof to that is when the Chinese decided to have their resolution to get their Chinese "Uncle Toms" out of their influence, and today, China is the most powerful country in the world no matter how bad America smears it in its media!
IsaWalks 3 years ago
Then I expect you to get rid of your car, television, phone, computer, your home, and everything else that these 'white devils' are responsible for. Anything less would be just hypocritical. Can you walk the walk, or are you just talking shit?
Aridaemus 3 years ago
China is not the most powerful country in the world. Actually, the US armed forces are twice as powerful as all other nations' armed forces combined. China is still a third world nation.
electango 2 years ago
Prepare to take orders from China and Japan, and oooh... by the way, better humble yourself and be quiet when you go to borrow some money from them, uh..uh more deficit and we are broke!. And oh.. by the way they run the ports and so make more room for their goods "Made in China"
rochillz 2 years ago
We the US is a Third world nation In the Eyes of China, panama, Brazil, and all the non US countries you know....
lsmith1981 2 years ago
The US is not a third world nation. However if we continue to be overrun by illiterate, unskilled primarily Latin illegal immigrants, the US will be a colony of the third world nation called Mexico. And then the US will be a third world nation.
electango 2 years ago
Us is " third world" as you understand the term, in as much as it lacks humanity, compassion and as such is backwards in its attitudes to other peoples and cultures,as demonstrated by your comments.
Abigmandis 2 years ago 2
I didn't make up the term first world or third world. Nor am I responsible for the large numbers of unskilled, illiterate Latino immigrants flooding into the US by the millions. It is a fact that if you import tens of millions of unskilled, non English speaking iliterates into a first world nation, at some point that nation becomes a third world nation. It is the people living there who make a nation first world or third world. The land is just land.
electango 2 years ago
Seems more like politics from Africans than from Europeans.
But if it makes the blacks happy, than good for them. They need something to help them to rise above their present condition.
eternalwanker 3 years ago
It always a theory with you Aryan revisionist pieces of shit even when you have the solid evidence glaring you in the face.
lhoward360 3 years ago 5
And your theory even is agains black-centrist theories abot Persian, Rome, Greece etc. colonization of North Africa since the last Millenium before CHRIST(it is History), to explain whites in North Africa, or the vision of Europeans about North Africa before XV Century or vandal(Germanic) People well know invasion after the fall of Rome, all this before XV Century.
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
English doesn't seem to be your first language. And neither is common sense. Seems all you Eurocentrics are learning impaired.
I keep doing this same spiel for each one of you. Here goes.
HUMANITY --not just blacks but people period!-- began in Africa. Not Asia, not Europe. At some point these blacks struck out into the world. Time and climate would change their appearance. Sadly it didn't change their internal nature.
Blacks have the genetic markers for ALL human traits. Whites only have one.
j1607760 3 years ago
Maybe they are the first. But it is a theory, even the gentic Tree was made to fix in that theory, but is not absolute.
But as I said is not my point.
(No English is not my mother language.)
Blacks(Even First or not) and whites cover large spaces of Earth many thousands years ago.
Note Apart: "Black" supramacy against "white" supremacy is not the key(or vice-versa) to unify Mankind(I´m talking in general)
Greetings GOD Blesse We All! Amen!
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
Any way Guanches(Arqui-Ancient white and rose People with Blue or brown eyes in Canarys Islands) or Berbers-Lybians North Africans in the time of the First Egyptian Dinasties were Caucasoid and even White(according to Egyptians walls about Lybians).
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
And maybe were blacks decendents in Europe also that became white, or not, but the fact is that they all aroud World. Genetic Cro-Magnon mtDNA in American Indians Ojibua Tribe - sorry I can´t spell(15.000BC), skeleton European Remains(One in United States and a group in Mexico) from the time of Bering Asian theor- that mainstream still ignore open space to the discredit of today historicism with the goal of not disturbing theories. Blacks and Whites all over the world.
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
The earliest human fossils, found ALL over the world BTW, are ALL African-type. Not even one white-type. Before the 15th century there were NO blondes or pale skinned people outside of Europe.
You said light-skin was everywhere but Africa, right? The aborigenes of Australia were there for 100's of thousands of years. Are THEY light-skinned? The Dravidians of India, (Dalits today) who were India's first people are direct African descendants. You don't know your anthropology. So please STFU.
j1607760 3 years ago 8
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haha. you couldn't me more wrong about white people out side of europe . research "tocharians".
it's hard to classify what is human, and what is a primitive hominid. cro-magnon are not always considered the same as todays people, and they already resembled caucasian.
the earliest hominids were found in africa, but they were definitely not negroids. they were the type from where all humanity divided, and it did not resemble any human race of today. hell, it could have had a fur on its back.
avatarion 3 years ago
Avatarion. Notice the more you argue the more you admit I'm right? You've admitted the earliest hominids came from Africa that settles the debate right there! And as for your "type where humanity divided" nonsense...
Google Most Recent Common Ancestor. There you'll find ALL the genetic evidence you could want, from white scholars, proving a black female is what man "divided" from.
The first humans were from Africa and they were black. The first explorers, societies and nations --all black.
j1607760 3 years ago 2
good lol
tllp1972 3 years ago
"Before the 15th century there were NO blondes or pale skinned people outside of Europe."
Blonde People, Red and brown hair People equal to many Europeans were found in East China - dated + 5000 years ago. Central Asia, Kasakistan etc.(Eurasia) are one of its origins(also in tradition).
Europe(west of Eurasia as a whole), Near East and North Africa are white-light skinned People`s points of colonization(maybe origin also).
If they are not or are the first humans it is other question.
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
First of all there are PLENTY of blacks and other people of color with blonde/red colored hair. Africans used henna dye to color their hair also and this plant is found in the same places you just mentioned.
Whites were NOWHERE outside of Europe before the 15th century. I know your sugar-candy world gets rocked whenever the lies of yesteryear are knocked down by the facts of today, but the key is acceptance.
Whites are the last branch of the human family.
Be mad at God for that, not me.
j1607760 3 years ago
All scientists defend the origin of the majority of Europeans(Indo-Europeans branch in case) in Central and Est Asia, proved by Archeology, genetic and Oral and writen history from wet Europe to India(India in specialy) maybe you want re-write all history lol.
Google Tocharians in China(they were white buried with some Mongoloid types at their side - in the same land, is not in only the hair they were caucasoid, but in fisic)
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
that is land of East Asians and Eurasians, Indo-Europeans etc., not Negroids, please, don´t say rubish.
Eurasia -Acept the fact.
And Ancient and today Berbers have U5 HG European connect to some Near Easterns also in Asia -with Cro-magnon connection. not southern Africa
"Whites are the last branch of the human family" - don´t matter for the case in particular neither relevant, but it is only a theory. We have no any definitivily link to out of Africa for all.
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
In East Asia, Show me a proof. I´m all open mind.
LusitanianCeltaGale 3 years ago
To all of you racist pricks!! Go to google type in the search engine: "Europeans turn pale only recently, genes suggest"
When you accept reality , then you will understand that your white skin is as new as maybe 6000 to 12,000 b.c.e , some say 6000 to 7000 b.c.e ,
But i'll give you pale barbarians the benefit of the doubt, maybe 12,000 ,regardless the pale gene is a recent morphology, everything before then still had black skin and resembled Australians, Africans or Melanesians!!!!
gimmedat22 3 years ago
they didn't resemble negroids just a few thousand years ago. if you have any clue what is anthropology, then you should know that skulls with caucasian features (cro magnon) have existed for tens if not hundreds of thousands years.
6000 years to develop white skin? that's a nice theory. somehow i just don't think it's likely for light skin tone to spread all over the world from japan to middle east to spain and heavily populate the world except africa in that time.
avatarion 3 years ago
Avatarion:
Africans were first. The Grimaldi Man is 50,000years old, Lucy is MILLIONS! The first white-type is only 4-8KYA
The MAJORITY of people on the earth are dark-skinned and black haired, why do you think that is? You're the first white man desperate enough to reclassify the Indians, South Americans, Melanasian et al as white. Any port in a storm. Dr James Watson himself, the father of genetics, traced humanity back to Africa, not Asia/Europe. Any science you can name supports this.
j1607760 3 years ago
lucy is not even a human, so it's not a black person. lucy is just as much white as it is black. in timeboth races divided from it.
please point out where i tried to say all those people you listed are supposedly white? i never in my life have thought so.
you're obviously too dumb to realize that what i said is to point out the white (skin) migrated everywhere around the world (except americas), which should suggest that the 6000 years could be a very dubious theory.
avatarion 3 years ago
Avatarion. You said "i just don't think it's likely for light skin tone to spread all over the world from japan to middle east to spain and heavily populate the world except africa in that time."
Your ignorant comments posits the idea that whites were the original man or that (snicker) white genes are "dominant." Half the population of Brazil are blacks. Light skinned people are fewer than dark-skinned. They are "all over the world" only due to post-Columbus immigration. Learn your history.
j1607760 3 years ago
what are you rambling about? i never said whites are the original man or that their allele is dominant. you're making things up.
since you brought it, that whites have recessive genes, how do you think they could have possibly migrated so fast all over in so little time? if it's a small mutation it would take much longer than 6000 years to do so. if high melanin dominated the world prior to the mutation, light skin color would have no chance spreading over.
avatarion 3 years ago
Wasn't the Mesopotamian civilization(present day Iraq) the foundation of civilization before the Nile Valley?
CrowdPleeza 3 years ago
This Jiroft civilization looks interesting. I just found some clips on it.
CrowdPleeza 3 years ago
No it wasn't... please check your references again. Thank you.
Kenshi76 3 years ago