Every Survivor winner has their fair share of help from other people.
The real dumb moves are the one's where there's no potential benefit. E.g. Tyson and Erik had no real solid reason behind their blunders. At least JT's idea was good in theory.
Would I have taken that sort of risk if I played? Not in a million years. But hey, you can't blame a guy for trying.
@MrBen51309 Of Course you can because his move was exactly as pointless as Erics. Believe it or not Erics move was also a reasonable one in theory. He wanted to earn Natalies loyalty and some jury votes.
Alot of moves are good in theory. Communism is good in theory. JT stated plenty of times how he was 100% sure that Russell was on his side which proved how dumb he was. It doesn´t matter wether he´s won or not because that doesn´t mean he´s smart. He still is a delusional redneck.
You can be as ignorant as you like, but he's still one of the most popular and well liked winners in the history of the show.
If you make it to the end without receiving a single elimination vote, then go on to win the jury vote unanimously, and then win the fan favorite award, you must be doing something right.
Calling him a 'delusional redneck' is ridiculous. You don't know him apart from what you've seen on TV. Saying that tells me more about who you are than about who he is.
@MrBen51309 What does winning the Fan Favorite and being liked among the jury have to do with the fact that he is not the brightest? Ozzy and Rupert both won the Fan Favorite and both of them are not actually light bulbs. BTW. you don´t have to respond to me now telling me how great Ozzy is I think we are past that. James also won the FF twice although he is a terrible player and not very smart either.
Wether you like it or not J.T proved us how "smart" he really is in HvV.
Wtf does Ozzy or Rupert have to do with anything? I merely mentioned JT winning the FF award because it was the cherry on top of a (literally) perfect game.
You can't claim James is bad. Yeah, he got voted out with 2 idols, but the other 2 times he was taken out due to injury. Just unlucky that's all.
You're trying to say that JT is dumb. So are you saying that you're smarter than him? Or will you be logical and say that there's no way of ever knowing?
First: The discussion was about him being dumb and you brought up the FF and used it as an argument. So I just responded to that.
Second: I might not be as much of a good guy as him or as physical but yes I would consider myself smarter. Of Course you could argue that we will never know but since he was the ringleader of a move that was a nogo even without knowing that Russell was an ass I would say that I am smarter because as most people I would have never done that.
Sorry to break it to you, but judging someone's intelligence based on a small bit of evidence and comparing it to your own, isn't something a smart person would do.
And besides. IQ ain't everything.....Heidi from Amazon and Dave Ball from Samoa are two of the smartest people (apparently) to ever be on the show, and they didn't exactly 'win'.
Survivor looks easy from where you're sitting at home, but when you've been starving for 24 days, it's amazing how your mind works sometimes.
@MrBen51309 IQ doesn´t matter. There are different types of intelligence. In the case of Survivor you gotta be streetsmart and not book smart. Dave ball might have had the highest IQ but Russell was still smarter than him. Same thing goes with Heidi an Rob C. And believe it or not it doesn´t matter that he was starving for 24 days because he was still living better then the villains yet he was terribly outsmarted by them despite JTs outdoor experiences. Everybody was starving.
Errrr, IQ isn't booksmarts. Knowledge is booksmarts. IQ is streetsmarts...
And I wouldn't exactly call Russell smart....He revealed to everyone that he was a millionaire, he treated everybody like shit, except John and Shambo, and he probably couldn't have given a worse final argument if he tried.
@MrBen51309 No IQ is not Streetsmart. You should look up what Streetsmart means buddy because if it was being street smart than an IQ test would look very different.
Russell didn´t tell everyone that he was a millionaire. He only told his alliance but I was actually talking about Russell in HvV. Russell always made decisions that were thought through. He nerver made a bad move besides being an ass but thats a character thing and not due to the lack of brain skills.
Lol, so you're saying that voting out Jerri and Danielle were smart moves??
Pre-merge he played an awesome game, but after the merge he played one of the worst games in history. He went up against 2 previous winners, and didn't get a single vote. That's how bad his game was.
Well streetsmart is common sense, and intelligence has a lot to do with it. So, I don't know what I'm missing here...
@MrBen51309 1. Streetsmart also means knowing your surroundings, knowing what people are up to and knowing how to make the best desicions that benefit yourself among different groups of people with different needs and charakters. Intelligence basically is logical thinking. Those two are a whole world apart my friend because you can be sure that someone that is doing good at sudoku doesn´t necessarily have a clue how to survive on the streets which is why it is called streetsamrt...
@MrBen51309 2. What was he supposed to do keep Jerri and Dannielle? Dannielle was the biggest threat since she was loyal to Parvati to the end and it would probably have ended with them trying to get rid of Russell. It was the right move to get rid of her. It was the way how he did it that was fucked up. Jerri was a potentional vote for him. Neither Sandra nor Parvati would have voted for him so It couldn´t hurt him to get her on the jury.
@MrBen51309 3. Russell made it to the end twice, not by riding Coattails and not by depending on another player but by working his ass off, dominating his games and making risky moves. All he lacks in is his presentation. of Course this is an important aspekt at the end but that still doesn´t make his gameplay one of the worst in history since this gameplay earned him 400.000$. But you know what? Thats another discussion. This one was about J.T.
If you actually think that Russell is a better player than JT, you clearly haven't given it much thought.
In Tocantins, JT couldn't have played a better game. He might've screwed up in Heroes vs Villians, but Russell screwed up in BOTH his games by being an ass to jury.
Swearing on your kids life?? Making ridiculous unnecessary final 3 deals?? That's not a personality clash, that's just being a moron.
@MrBen51309 You can´t compare two different games since two games have completely different conditions, different people, different jury. if you wanna compare two players then you need to put them together and see who is gonna end up victorius. We did have the chance to watch a battle between JT and Russell and Russell proved to be superior big time.You haven´t brought any argument about the original topic yet that was able to hold up. Until you do don´t bother responding lol
As impressive as it is to make it to Day 39, being the guy who comes 3rd and gets 0 jury votes isn't really a great place to finish. Hey, it gets you more prize money in the end, but still....
There's a reason the title is called 'Sole Survivor'. There's only one winner:
JT lost the game
Russell lost the game
Survivor isn't like an Olympic event, where getting silver or bronze is a massive achievement.
The only person with any sort of bragging rights is the winner.
@MrBen51309 Thats funny because on another video you responded to me with this:
"I totally agree with you. Making it to Day 39 is a huge feat. Regardless of how you get there. Even if you receive 0 jury votes, you still played a better game than everybody who got voted out. That's how I look at it anyway."
Yeah, Russell played a better game than 17 people. And making it to the end is a big achievement. But getting 0 jury votes doesn't exactly give you the right to claim that you're 'far superior' to everyone else. Winning does...
I can understand if you think I'm contradicting myself. But believe me, I'm being logical.
@MrBen51309 I told you as long as you don´t bring any arguments to the original discussion don´t bother responding to me buddy. Thats of course if you still remember what the original discussion was about since you´ve worked really hard to shift it to another topic XD
It's not like I'm calling him a genius or anything. I'm just saying that he's NOT an idiot. I mean, you're right. He could be!!! But without knowing him, you can't assume that he's smart or dumb. He's just JT.
But if we do judge him according to Survivor, I'd say that winning one season would outweigh making a massive blunder in another season. That's my opinion at least, yours is probably different.
@MrBen51309 I actually wasn´t the one who called him dumb for making that move. That was somebody else and you responded to him with an argument which I felt obligated to contradict since I consider it redicolous. Then you threw in some "arguments" which I easily countered and you started shifting the topic. After you ran out of arguments you tried to hide behind the fact that we cant tell because we don´t know him. This is what bothers me not the fact that your opinion is different.
It wasn't just me changing the topic. You were doing that as well. And I didn't exactly hide behind 'you don't know him' topic. I brought that up pretty early.
Here's the thing. You think you're right, I think I'm right. That's never gonna change.
@MrBen51309 Yes you brought that up early because there were no arguments left. And no I wasn´t changing the topic. You said that his mind was twisted since he was under heavy conditions. I said that was bull because the villains especially Russell were able to keep their cool and outsmarted him despite the fact that their conditions were even worse. Then it was you who somehow felt the need to prove to me how bad of a player Russell actually was. So you were the one who shifted.
russell is amazing at making it far in the game by eliminating people using any means necessary. However this does not make him the greatest player ever, simply because his social game is lacking and that plays such a critical part in the final. Don't get me the wrong way, I love watching Russell, he is entertaining as hell
Russell Hanz has an advantage the other castaways did not know what happened in survivor samoa. The Heavens even tried to warn the heroes of their impending doom, thunder and lightning overshadowed Colby's message to Russell. God tried warn the heroes. But they were so overcome with joy in the possibility of winning it all. They didn't know that they made...
Yeah but look at this prospective .. Russell is gonna lose FIVE jury votes!! Cuz you better believe the Heroes will be pissed for his backstabbing!! and Coach ain't voting for him .. so sorry Russell .. even though you deserve to win
If he doesn't get the jury votes than he doesnt deserve tro win. He makes too many moves in this game that make him look bad. Snadra deserves too win though I wanted Candice too
JT= idiot
michellecooljr 1 month ago
@michellecooljr
You can't exactly say that about a Survivor winner....
MrBen51309 1 week ago
@MrBen51309 Of course you can. he proved it. There was no Fishbach this season to help him with his decisions so we saw what happened ;)
JaCkmArc0 5 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Every Survivor winner has their fair share of help from other people.
The real dumb moves are the one's where there's no potential benefit. E.g. Tyson and Erik had no real solid reason behind their blunders. At least JT's idea was good in theory.
Would I have taken that sort of risk if I played? Not in a million years. But hey, you can't blame a guy for trying.
MrBen51309 4 days ago
@MrBen51309 Of Course you can because his move was exactly as pointless as Erics. Believe it or not Erics move was also a reasonable one in theory. He wanted to earn Natalies loyalty and some jury votes.
Alot of moves are good in theory. Communism is good in theory. JT stated plenty of times how he was 100% sure that Russell was on his side which proved how dumb he was. It doesn´t matter wether he´s won or not because that doesn´t mean he´s smart. He still is a delusional redneck.
JaCkmArc0 4 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
You can be as ignorant as you like, but he's still one of the most popular and well liked winners in the history of the show.
If you make it to the end without receiving a single elimination vote, then go on to win the jury vote unanimously, and then win the fan favorite award, you must be doing something right.
Calling him a 'delusional redneck' is ridiculous. You don't know him apart from what you've seen on TV. Saying that tells me more about who you are than about who he is.
MrBen51309 4 days ago
@MrBen51309 What does winning the Fan Favorite and being liked among the jury have to do with the fact that he is not the brightest? Ozzy and Rupert both won the Fan Favorite and both of them are not actually light bulbs. BTW. you don´t have to respond to me now telling me how great Ozzy is I think we are past that. James also won the FF twice although he is a terrible player and not very smart either.
Wether you like it or not J.T proved us how "smart" he really is in HvV.
JaCkmArc0 4 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Wtf does Ozzy or Rupert have to do with anything? I merely mentioned JT winning the FF award because it was the cherry on top of a (literally) perfect game.
You can't claim James is bad. Yeah, he got voted out with 2 idols, but the other 2 times he was taken out due to injury. Just unlucky that's all.
You're trying to say that JT is dumb. So are you saying that you're smarter than him? Or will you be logical and say that there's no way of ever knowing?
MrBen51309 4 days ago
@MrBen51309
First: The discussion was about him being dumb and you brought up the FF and used it as an argument. So I just responded to that.
Second: I might not be as much of a good guy as him or as physical but yes I would consider myself smarter. Of Course you could argue that we will never know but since he was the ringleader of a move that was a nogo even without knowing that Russell was an ass I would say that I am smarter because as most people I would have never done that.
JaCkmArc0 4 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Sorry to break it to you, but judging someone's intelligence based on a small bit of evidence and comparing it to your own, isn't something a smart person would do.
And besides. IQ ain't everything.....Heidi from Amazon and Dave Ball from Samoa are two of the smartest people (apparently) to ever be on the show, and they didn't exactly 'win'.
Survivor looks easy from where you're sitting at home, but when you've been starving for 24 days, it's amazing how your mind works sometimes.
MrBen51309 4 days ago
@MrBen51309 IQ doesn´t matter. There are different types of intelligence. In the case of Survivor you gotta be streetsmart and not book smart. Dave ball might have had the highest IQ but Russell was still smarter than him. Same thing goes with Heidi an Rob C. And believe it or not it doesn´t matter that he was starving for 24 days because he was still living better then the villains yet he was terribly outsmarted by them despite JTs outdoor experiences. Everybody was starving.
JaCkmArc0 4 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Errrr, IQ isn't booksmarts. Knowledge is booksmarts. IQ is streetsmarts...
And I wouldn't exactly call Russell smart....He revealed to everyone that he was a millionaire, he treated everybody like shit, except John and Shambo, and he probably couldn't have given a worse final argument if he tried.
MrBen51309 4 days ago
@MrBen51309 No IQ is not Streetsmart. You should look up what Streetsmart means buddy because if it was being street smart than an IQ test would look very different.
Russell didn´t tell everyone that he was a millionaire. He only told his alliance but I was actually talking about Russell in HvV. Russell always made decisions that were thought through. He nerver made a bad move besides being an ass but thats a character thing and not due to the lack of brain skills.
JaCkmArc0 4 days ago
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MrBen51309 4 days ago
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@JaCkmArc0
Lol, so you're saying that voting out Jerri and Danielle were smart moves??
Pre-merge he played an awesome game, but after the merge he played one of the worst games in history. He went up against 2 previous winners, and didn't get a single vote. That's how bad his game was.
Well streetsmart is common sense, and intelligence has a lot to do with it. So, I don't know what I'm missing here...
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 1. Streetsmart also means knowing your surroundings, knowing what people are up to and knowing how to make the best desicions that benefit yourself among different groups of people with different needs and charakters. Intelligence basically is logical thinking. Those two are a whole world apart my friend because you can be sure that someone that is doing good at sudoku doesn´t necessarily have a clue how to survive on the streets which is why it is called streetsamrt...
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 2. What was he supposed to do keep Jerri and Dannielle? Dannielle was the biggest threat since she was loyal to Parvati to the end and it would probably have ended with them trying to get rid of Russell. It was the right move to get rid of her. It was the way how he did it that was fucked up. Jerri was a potentional vote for him. Neither Sandra nor Parvati would have voted for him so It couldn´t hurt him to get her on the jury.
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 3. Russell made it to the end twice, not by riding Coattails and not by depending on another player but by working his ass off, dominating his games and making risky moves. All he lacks in is his presentation. of Course this is an important aspekt at the end but that still doesn´t make his gameplay one of the worst in history since this gameplay earned him 400.000$. But you know what? Thats another discussion. This one was about J.T.
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
If you actually think that Russell is a better player than JT, you clearly haven't given it much thought.
In Tocantins, JT couldn't have played a better game. He might've screwed up in Heroes vs Villians, but Russell screwed up in BOTH his games by being an ass to jury.
Swearing on your kids life?? Making ridiculous unnecessary final 3 deals?? That's not a personality clash, that's just being a moron.
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 You can´t compare two different games since two games have completely different conditions, different people, different jury. if you wanna compare two players then you need to put them together and see who is gonna end up victorius. We did have the chance to watch a battle between JT and Russell and Russell proved to be superior big time.You haven´t brought any argument about the original topic yet that was able to hold up. Until you do don´t bother responding lol
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
As impressive as it is to make it to Day 39, being the guy who comes 3rd and gets 0 jury votes isn't really a great place to finish. Hey, it gets you more prize money in the end, but still....
There's a reason the title is called 'Sole Survivor'. There's only one winner:
JT lost the game
Russell lost the game
Survivor isn't like an Olympic event, where getting silver or bronze is a massive achievement.
The only person with any sort of bragging rights is the winner.
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 Thats funny because on another video you responded to me with this:
"I totally agree with you. Making it to Day 39 is a huge feat. Regardless of how you get there. Even if you receive 0 jury votes, you still played a better game than everybody who got voted out. That's how I look at it anyway."
Case closed. Stop embarrasing yourself.....
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0 owned²
HighCruiser88 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Yeah, Russell played a better game than 17 people. And making it to the end is a big achievement. But getting 0 jury votes doesn't exactly give you the right to claim that you're 'far superior' to everyone else. Winning does...
I can understand if you think I'm contradicting myself. But believe me, I'm being logical.
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 I told you as long as you don´t bring any arguments to the original discussion don´t bother responding to me buddy. Thats of course if you still remember what the original discussion was about since you´ve worked really hard to shift it to another topic XD
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
Ok then, original argument.
JT IS NOT AN IDIOT. And if you think that without even knowing him, you're not making a fair judgement.....
That's all I'm really saying...
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 Well I don´t recall you knowing JT or do you? So who are you to tell me that hes not an idiot?
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
It's not like I'm calling him a genius or anything. I'm just saying that he's NOT an idiot. I mean, you're right. He could be!!! But without knowing him, you can't assume that he's smart or dumb. He's just JT.
But if we do judge him according to Survivor, I'd say that winning one season would outweigh making a massive blunder in another season. That's my opinion at least, yours is probably different.
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 I actually wasn´t the one who called him dumb for making that move. That was somebody else and you responded to him with an argument which I felt obligated to contradict since I consider it redicolous. Then you threw in some "arguments" which I easily countered and you started shifting the topic. After you ran out of arguments you tried to hide behind the fact that we cant tell because we don´t know him. This is what bothers me not the fact that your opinion is different.
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
@JaCkmArc0
It wasn't just me changing the topic. You were doing that as well. And I didn't exactly hide behind 'you don't know him' topic. I brought that up pretty early.
Here's the thing. You think you're right, I think I'm right. That's never gonna change.
MrBen51309 3 days ago
@MrBen51309 Yes you brought that up early because there were no arguments left. And no I wasn´t changing the topic. You said that his mind was twisted since he was under heavy conditions. I said that was bull because the villains especially Russell were able to keep their cool and outsmarted him despite the fact that their conditions were even worse. Then it was you who somehow felt the need to prove to me how bad of a player Russell actually was. So you were the one who shifted.
JaCkmArc0 3 days ago
...and @ 4:19 he looks RIGHT AT THE CAMERA and smiles.
DUH!!!
r5t6y12 1 month ago
4:21 perfect time for lightning
cbourne221 1 month ago
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ThatGirlMarilyynn 9 months ago
colby's ripped
ccrawf4 10 months ago
Those are the meanest-looking tikis i've ever seen in my entire life
iankevinsevilla 1 year ago
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MrPoppy32 1 year ago
rupert looks wierd when all of his hair is wet
softballkcb101 1 year ago
Jeff Probst has got the coolest job ever.
10respect 1 year ago 38
NEVER give your idol to the biggest villain in survivor!
TheStrategist21 1 year ago
@TheStrategist21 I think you meant to say the biggest ASSHOLE in survivor
MrPoppy32 6 months ago
haha,lightning strike when the zoom on Russell face means he got everything and the power within his control.its like a movie scene or something.
frankandyumi 1 year ago 2
JT what an idiot!!
lucy8470 1 year ago 4
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final 3 parvati sandra and russell
jerri 4th colby 5th rupert 6th
danielle 7th
survivorfan1234 1 year ago
@survivorfan1234 How did you know?
shadowranger123 1 year ago
even though J.T's move was stupid, it wasnt the stupidest(:
shaleasa1 1 year ago
candice is great in this season but not in alliances thats her problem...
kianzzable 1 year ago 2
What if the Heroes lost every tribal challenge?
daamits 1 year ago
i love u candice..
hey where i can watch the episodes :(
kidnextdoor19 1 year ago 3
russell is amazing at making it far in the game by eliminating people using any means necessary. However this does not make him the greatest player ever, simply because his social game is lacking and that plays such a critical part in the final. Don't get me the wrong way, I love watching Russell, he is entertaining as hell
hipnotyq 1 year ago
That conversation between Russell and Colby is classic. LOL at the zoom on Russell's face while lightning strikes.
VastedCouth 1 year ago
Heroes were advantaged, they were closer to the beach. :/
Pacman1330 1 year ago
Wow .. Wow ..wow ... Survivor History in the making !!! I love this Season!!!
CosmicComicKing 1 year ago 2
Russell Hanz has an advantage the other castaways did not know what happened in survivor samoa. The Heavens even tried to warn the heroes of their impending doom, thunder and lightning overshadowed Colby's message to Russell. God tried warn the heroes. But they were so overcome with joy in the possibility of winning it all. They didn't know that they made...
...a contract with the evil Russell
Devil take the hindmost....
peterparker000 1 year ago 19
@peterparker000
Yeah but look at this prospective .. Russell is gonna lose FIVE jury votes!! Cuz you better believe the Heroes will be pissed for his backstabbing!! and Coach ain't voting for him .. so sorry Russell .. even though you deserve to win
CosmicComicKing 1 year ago
@CosmicComicKing Well you'll never know
Scarlette930 1 year ago
@CosmicComicKing
If he doesn't get the jury votes than he doesnt deserve tro win. He makes too many moves in this game that make him look bad. Snadra deserves too win though I wanted Candice too
deltron121 1 year ago
@CosmicComicKing Shoudl Russell be at the end and idk Amanda and Parvati are with him, The only one that'll vote for him is Danielle.
vaporterra 1 year ago
@peterparker000 Lol, are you a english teacher? Cuz thats the way mine talks lol
rsparth 1 year ago
@peterparker000
Although, the producers said that he was considered one of the most notorious villans of all time and did tell the cast that before they came.
XEDRA2 1 year ago