is it compatable with any windows apps? i just need to know coz if it is then i can put my internet on it. if so i think ive found what ive been looking for for a long time!
@MrSam123ni oh i dosent matter now but back then all i ahd was a moblie broadband stick which used web n walk manager which was a windows app to get connected dosent matter now i got me a propper connection wow this comment is 6 months old dont seem that long ago
if by mono you mean the CLR/VM, then i agree, but not all of the mono libs are useful, like the platform specific stuff, and the GTK/Gnome and GVFS, totally useless, web stuff (ASP) not needed...
mscore.dll 0_o.... why?
bindings to the native GUI API/ABI is what is needed...
and a stable CLR/MV...
it is late an i have no idea what i am talking about....zzZZzzZZ..
I just wish someone would make an OS which can run appz that run on windows flawlessly and be 100% free, I hate windows, I am using unbuntu atm and loving it but I dont think linux will ever run windows apps flawlessly and thats what I think is holding it back but thats just my opinion.
make and os 100% free that can run windows apps and watch microshit fail
It's not going to happen, Microsoft keeps their code locked down to prevent that.
ReactOS is trying, though. It's basically WINE running on a non-Linux kernel, trying to be a free implementation of Windows, to the extent that the law will alow.
Dude, you gotta get your shit figured out. you're messed up in your head if you think Linux is so complicated. Heck, I don't even see you people like comment on these videos, it's not even about Linux! Anyways, I'm not trying to preach to anyone about any OS, but I'm just saying it like it is. If you don't like it, then too bad. the most famous versions of linux out there come pre-bundled with great apps so you don't need to get them yourself. no need to check anything or update drivers.
Windows on the other hand, comes with programs so crappy that you'd have to go download a bunch of shit. Not just that, but you have a bunch more worries, like security, and just about every new release of Windows they try to change, so you have to figure out everything all over again. Compare Windows 98/Me to 2000/XP to Vista/7; they're all so different you have to get used to where everything is again. Just about every update they make is something that just makes things harder.
I actually use XP myself, but when they upgrade to vista, so much is different in a worse way. It doesn't give you as many options to customize anything, and when you wanna find anything useful, it's all so hard to find. Windows 7 is a little bit better, but they had to get rid of the classic theme for the start menu just to save 200KB of code. That's just fucked up. I don't know what else to tell you, but I actually prefer XP because I make my own custom builds now, so there's no need for me
Haiku isn't Linux, its BeOS or a "unix like" OS. Technically it's not even BeOS anymore, because its being transformed into an entirely open-source OS.
It's like calling Solaris, Linux. Which it isn't its more Unix than it is Linux
You may be right, but this OS has no BeOS code in it cept for the menubar and something else. This OS is specifically based on a modified Unix kernel for optimum speed.
People should only have to learn programming languages or read extensive manuals for more advanced tasks in pretty much any operating system. Linux seems more of an install and you're done OS than Windows does, because in windows you're just supplied with a bunch of closed source crappy programs, then you have to go and check your drivers. Linux usually takes care of it all for you depending on what distro you are using.
Rocking has improved since the 1994 emulator, I believe. As for ATI; hey, how's your own Intel-HPC and nVidia competitive or emulation project going? 3D/240Hz rendering and raytracing all right?
I sympathize with Haiku and its development efforts, despite interesting semi-commercial licensing that means your work can be aquired by some company for free and not contribute back.
But this video just fails to show what are
real benefits of using Haiku in 2009, its possible strengths and market niche.
I was expecting to see something that will convince me to find Haiku and install it and try to use it. This Video does not help much to Haiku.
It's too bad about BeOS and its offspring. I really enjoyed using it around 2000, even as a primary desktop for a while (most of what I did was emacs coding in a terminal anyway). It booted fast, was amazingly responsive, had interesting features, and mostly made other people go "wtf are you running?"
Well miss information such as (sic) "there is so many Linus OSs" ... It's nothing to do with Linux and comments saying you should write for a Nokia phone. Please.
Watch the "Haiku under heavy load video". Windows would have had a stroke. I myself am an Ubuntu user and I'd have to admit that my cusom build of Ubuntu would have choked when put under that kind of stress. It's worth taking a look at.
Don't hate on an OS just because it's not mainstream.
Haiku is about as far from mainstream was you can get. It's not even based on 'nix. It's a copy (actually a pirate copy) of a commercial OS called Be (1997). It's completely incompatible with 99.99% of the software out there. It makes the Mac OS look like Windows. It's a nice, clean OS but it's also a toy. It's not going anywhere.
You don't know what you're talking about. Haiku and Zeta are both clones of BeOs. BeOs is NOT a clone of anything - it's a unique OS written in C++ in the mid 90s.
None of these are going anywhere. There is no software for them and they lack modern technologies.
There are millions of Linux users around the globe. It's estimated that 2% of desktop systems worldwide is running Linux and this doesn't include servers, on which Linux is absolutely the most widespread OS.
However, what's the point in you denigrating Haiku? Certainly, it's still a rough OS, but made by enthusiastic people for free. How do you know it won't go anywhere? Are you a newborn Nostradamus or just a freaking Windows/MacOS fanboy? You should grow up kid!
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Other than servers or as a 'toy', linux has virtually no credibility as a viable OS. Backwards compatibility is a joke as is driver support. There is no coordination to the effort and most distros just come off as poor clones of Windoze but with basic functionality broken. Also a there are a LOT of lone wolf linux devs out there who are a total dicks and far worse than any PC or Mac fanboy.
Why rag on Haiku? Because it's the same as BeOS and that went no-where fast. It looks as it did in '97.
Im not a fan of BeOS, personally i've never used it. But your comment on Linux not being compatible with hardware was one of the more ignorant i've seen in a long time. Inferno:~# uname -a
Linux Inferno 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 26 01:08:11 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
If your too much of a windows n00b, that means im running Debian lenny on a IBM Thinkpad T43 - the only thing i had to install by hand was the ipw2200-bcm.fw firmware to get my wireless working. Ever since its been sweet. Read more
Every distro i've installed debian on has never had any compatibility issues, You sound like a 17 year old acne infected teen with low Microsoft skills. Best believe that Linux has supreme hardware support. And ATI is supported too you fucken Windows R-Tard.
Im baked, so sue me =P You dont need to install drivers for ATI vid cards because its already in the installation. And i meant every Linux distro i've installed i had no hardware compatibility issue. Except for my thinkpads Intel Pro Wireless module. Which i was able to get from source forge in no time. So its not about what Linux can do for you, its about how much time you spend getting it to work for your needs. If you dont use it then you cant speak on it.
Actually that is the FGLRX installer being a piece of crap (I REALLY feel your pain there); for the same reason there is no accelerated video driver for haiku, or PPC Linux. Big companies afraid of the users stealing their code.
I personally (as a Linux enthusiast) hope to see haiku mature into the wonderful piece of art it already is beginning to resemble.
If software you write for an operating system does not work, it's because you did it wrong, don't expect the entire linux developer community to alter the kernel to fit around your measly app/driver just because you don't understand how to write software. Your over stating of assertions does not alter reality.
Lol, you mention ATI? Just mentioning their name will give you an error. Saying that stupid shit would be like complaining at software developers why there software isn't running correctly on your version of React OS.
Oh wow, you must really hate Linux, and love ATI. Last time I checked ATI has compatibility problems with just about everything. Oh wait, it still does! Keep sheltering yourself from reality.
ATI may not have compatibility probs with the OS itself, but so many 3d games and applications have problems with ATI it's not even funny. That should hint to people that it ATI has compatibility issues, not the operating system. In my opinion, Linux has great compatibility, far greater than Windows. when Vista came out, 1/2 the shit wouldn't work on it, and not much more works on it now. When you install Linux, everything usually just works, no checkkng for latest drivers at all.With Windows...
More problems then I've ever had with drivers. Everything has to be manually updated, and it Windows sucks doing it itself, so you usually have to do a few google searches yourself. Nice point on ATI not supporting it, but that wouldn't be Linux's fault for poor compatibility, that would be ATI's for not supporting it.
Linux does not support super up-to-date hardware. In fact I have a PC that wont run Linux... like really. The BIOS does not support Linux ACPI. And thanks to RMS recently saying FUCK PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE, Xorg is being re-written. So now many graphics cards that worked fine with Linux don't work at all.
Such a high quality OS isn't it? Breaking perfectly working drivers for "freedom". Xorg sucks anyway. Async piece of shit.
wow, how off-topic you got there. anyways, if you're looking for applications that don't work with ATI, just do a quick google search. Many games don't function correctly. Off the top of my head, Portalized has issues with ATI cards. Ever consider it could be the Linux Distro you're running, not just all of the versions of Linux? Just a thought
All Linux distros are essentially the same. Same kernel...if there is a driver missing I compile it myself, but drivers for an ATI Radeon 9200 does not exist in Linux land. Not one with true 3D accel that is.
Well of course, but Linux is "freedom!" remember? What happened to all our free and opensource drivers and shit. They say they make opensource versions of drivers that will replace the closed ones... I don't see it happening. I guess freedom doesn't = efficiency? Besides that, ATI as I see has a few problems, but it still works fine for your average 3D accel on Windows/OSX. As I told you I fucking hate ATI, but it is what the customer asks for here.
well you know, if you do have that much of a problem with linux for that, it is a community project, and no one is stopping you from developing this shit yourself. There are programs I'd like to be made, but I'm not bitching at the world to do it for me; I'd rather just learn some programming languages and do it myself. It's not like there's 3 computer nerds sitting behind a desk developing Linux that you can just scream at for not doing something right.
Yes, because that is my dream... to work on Linux for weeks just to get it to work. I'll just use Windows and OS X. Sit down at the desk, get my homework done, get my photoshop on, watch some videos listen to music. No programming involved.
Lol I guess if you want to =P. If that's all you want to do though, I don't understand why you'd care about Linux in the first place. There's usually alternatives to everything for your favorite operating system.
Why would I not reply? You insulted me. And lets stay on topic shall we? ATI does not have driver problems with Windows and OS X. If you have a supported OS they work fine. Linux just isn't supported.
Actually all that command would tell me is what unix kernel you are running and some of the major options it was compiled with. Not the distro or the exact hardware, as you stated.
Thinkpads are usually excellent choice for Linux. I would not say the same for a random cheapo Acer or Toshiba, etc. There are definately issues you can have with hardware. But for different reasons than with say Vista.
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My nokia N81 can do more.Its even a pdf reader, this is basically worse than win95. And dont down rate me because you cant handle the truth. BeOS was great.this is doomed,do u really think it could dream of competing with even DSL yet? Could I carry out a presentation on this thing or does it just come with a txt editor, paint and bad media player? Look, before you make a desktop make a mobile platform to run on e.g open-moko and Nokia internet tablet.Generate peoples interest in the sourcecode!
wow some people should maybe read about stuff before they post. Way too many people confused this with Linux and yeah...one person got that it was part of BeOS...only if they knew that it was influenced and based on Be....but not Be itself. BeOS is dead...Haiku is its grandchild that someday I will try out for myself =]
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My nokia N81 can do more.Its even a pdf reader, this is basically worse than win95. And dont down rate me because you cant handle the truth. BeOS was great.this is doomed,do u really think it could dream of competing with even DSL yet? Could I carry out a presentation on this thing or does it just come with a txt editor, paint and bad media player? Look, before you make a desktop make a mobile platform to run on e.g open-moko and Nokia internet tablet.Generate peoples interest in the sourcecode!
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looks like my PC in 1996.. i'm all about open source and i absolutely hate microsoft.. but it seems like this OS is stuck in the wrong era.. maybe if they could get some REAL projects ported and running well on it then i would give it a try.. for now i'll stick with OS X
OS X? interesting..did you know that it is basically the same as linux? well based on Unix but same kernel etc. I liek the GUI of OS X but it is damn slow compared to linux.
hey wow, that explains a lot, instead of trying to code a working cut and paste, like most x-based programs don't have, apple just completely left it out.
Actually OS X is based off BSD. And BSD is a direct desendant of Unix. :)
wikipedia quote: "Apple Inc.'s Darwin, the core of Mac OS X; built on the XNU kernel (part Mach, part FreeBSD, part Apple-derived code) and a userland much of which comes from FreeBSD"
Haiku Operating system is based on BeOS, which for its time was far more advanced then Windows, MAC OS X and Linux. the way it handles Preemptive-Multitasking, and thread processing, it could have pwnd Windows, if only it had a larger user-base, and a easier to program API. I guess the OS can still suck but as long as there is a multitude of Applications and a good API e.g. (Win32 and DirectX) it will keep the user happy, like Windows per say.
I was fortunate enough to run the original BeOS on an SMP system. The system monitor tool lets you turn processors on and off like a switch, amazing. If you don't believe how well put together this OS is, download a vmware image. This OS runs faster than DOS in vmware.
This really has some serious potential for education too, a kindergarten class could have a system running this on yard sale hardware.
For those who are skeptical of Haiku, let me tell you this, I ran BeOS on a Pentium 166mhz, 64mb ram, & 2gb hdd, and it ran just as fast if not faster than windows xp running on a modern system. I was able to multi-task about 50 programs at once on that old comp without it crashing or slowing down. That includes running music, videos, playing Doom, writing text, editing a photo, using FireFox, & playing a DVD. Haiku rocks!
I agree as well. I ran BeOS Personal Edition for a while and it was superb. Then I ran BeOS Professional Edition and it was the most beautiful OS I have ever used. The people at Be really knew how to develop, because even still the BeOS still beats Windows and even Mac in a few areas. But mostly Windows.
Most people have a job, and some even have a family. Linux has come a long way from the early days, but you can't expect a "desktop user" to be able to fix any serious problem without another system nearby to google solutions.
Most people have a job, and some even have a family. Linux has come a long way from the early days, but you can't expect a "desktop user" to be able to fix any serious problem without another system nearby to google solutions. "
My reply:
"... and you can fix a "serious" windows problem without google?
Oh yea, you do still have the install cd. Just plop it in and re-install.
Don't blame your incompetence on an operating system. Buy a book."
Just like I thought, you completely missed what I had to say and immediately started trolling. That's the kind of thing I would expect from a software engineer (or someone who had the cash for a cert.). We may start to see better software now that we can get someone in India to do your job better for a fraction of the cost. Maybe people who don't speak English will be able to make easily understood software. Most people don't work for their computers, they use their computers to work.
My troll? you are a complete sack of shit zariok. The post I replied to was "Linux is user-friendly for ME. Still, not a bad idea." Jedy000 even went to the trouble of capitalizing it to prevent someone like you from misunderstanding. If linux is so user freindly why has every attempt at mass marketing failed? Even the friendly distros like ubuntu are beyond the realm of "desktop users" (aka normal people). Either way the long and the short of it is get fucked.
normal people? Obviously you have got your information totally fucked up. Most of the pcs send to poor areas are shipped with linux because it is free. In 10 years you are gonna see a growing number of hitech geeks coming from those places because a) they have grown up with linux, thus are more used to the fact that certain things can be improved rather than cussing at the blue screen of death b) it will far more stable than Windows (as it is already). So check your sources net time, asshole
Well, I've used linux since 1997 and that's all I've ever heard is that 10 more years. Just keep trolling and it will happen. Those computer giveaways have happened for at least that long, so it should only be 2 years. I got an lpi in 2000 it's still worth dick. Linux has shown what works with free software, which is why everyone has firefox, and not linux. I'm tired of trolls who attack people who don't give linux a shining review. You people are worse than scientologists.
Finally something that could be more user friendly than Linux and also open source. :)
As long as it can run java and mono there will be a lot of applications for it so I think this is really the Operating System that will dominate the desktop operating system market in the future.
Good job guys! Can't wait to have a first release. I loved BeOS and still using it on an old PC. Runs very fast, I can even run actual software like Firefox or VLC and it runs faster on my old Pentium II 400 MHz BeOS powered than on my actual computers!
BeOS was pretty cool, and I had hopes for it. I was disappointed that they went out of business, but I'm glad there is another project to re-create it. it looks like it's coming along fairly well.
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Why wouldn't you want the greatest possible grasping space at the top of your windows? Do you really believe it will ever run on even 1% of the world's computers? If so, how long would this take?
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i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
i'm sorry, i certainly don't want to belittle your efforts but this video is so cheesy i just had to laugh.
haiku rocks ...
serialoverflow 8 months ago
but why?
bent540 8 months ago
Sigan adelante, estan armando un gran Sistema Operativo.
Haiku Rulez!!!
salvatoretrimarchi89 1 year ago
made simple. at first when i first saw it i thought a bit to simple so it would be crap. i was wrong
dimb9 2 years ago
is it compatable with any windows apps? i just need to know coz if it is then i can put my internet on it. if so i think ive found what ive been looking for for a long time!
dimb9 2 years ago
@dimb9 What do you mean by "put your internet on it" exactly?
MrSam123ni 1 year ago
@MrSam123ni oh i dosent matter now but back then all i ahd was a moblie broadband stick which used web n walk manager which was a windows app to get connected dosent matter now i got me a propper connection wow this comment is 6 months old dont seem that long ago
dimb9 1 year ago
@dimb9 Oh no worries I didn't look at how old the comment was lol
MrSam123ni 1 year ago
Port MONO to your OS and the whole C# community can write programs and more importantly deploy on it!
Apps and ease of use are why people gravitate towards OSes. More Apps = more choice. If its free, even better.
SavageSoftware 2 years ago
if by mono you mean the CLR/VM, then i agree, but not all of the mono libs are useful, like the platform specific stuff, and the GTK/Gnome and GVFS, totally useless, web stuff (ASP) not needed...
mscore.dll 0_o.... why?
bindings to the native GUI API/ABI is what is needed...
and a stable CLR/MV...
it is late an i have no idea what i am talking about....zzZZzzZZ..
GegoXaren 2 years ago
Its Great OS, i tested Haiku yesterday.
I tryed terminal, its diffirent than Linux..
But i dont switch, im with Linux :)
webnull 2 years ago 2
I just wish someone would make an OS which can run appz that run on windows flawlessly and be 100% free, I hate windows, I am using unbuntu atm and loving it but I dont think linux will ever run windows apps flawlessly and thats what I think is holding it back but thats just my opinion.
make and os 100% free that can run windows apps and watch microshit fail
4m05 2 years ago
Why windows apps?
There are many good applications for Linux.
Are you working only on ported applications from other operating system?
webnull 2 years ago 2
Just Google for ReactOS
letinon 2 years ago
Today i removed completly windows from my hard drive, and i have only Debian GNU/Linux :)
webnull 2 years ago
It's not going to happen, Microsoft keeps their code locked down to prevent that.
ReactOS is trying, though. It's basically WINE running on a non-Linux kernel, trying to be a free implementation of Windows, to the extent that the law will alow.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago
well.. If ReactOS someday catch a lot of users, I'm sure that M$ will sue them with some "patented" something.. :(
kr105rules 2 years ago
Its called ReactOS.
TheROFLPOLICE 2 years ago
I don't think its that easy to do that X.X
sean77408 2 years ago
lol switch to what? doesn't exist anymore
mysticalclown 2 years ago
Dude, you gotta get your shit figured out. you're messed up in your head if you think Linux is so complicated. Heck, I don't even see you people like comment on these videos, it's not even about Linux! Anyways, I'm not trying to preach to anyone about any OS, but I'm just saying it like it is. If you don't like it, then too bad. the most famous versions of linux out there come pre-bundled with great apps so you don't need to get them yourself. no need to check anything or update drivers.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Windows on the other hand, comes with programs so crappy that you'd have to go download a bunch of shit. Not just that, but you have a bunch more worries, like security, and just about every new release of Windows they try to change, so you have to figure out everything all over again. Compare Windows 98/Me to 2000/XP to Vista/7; they're all so different you have to get used to where everything is again. Just about every update they make is something that just makes things harder.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
I actually use XP myself, but when they upgrade to vista, so much is different in a worse way. It doesn't give you as many options to customize anything, and when you wanna find anything useful, it's all so hard to find. Windows 7 is a little bit better, but they had to get rid of the classic theme for the start menu just to save 200KB of code. That's just fucked up. I don't know what else to tell you, but I actually prefer XP because I make my own custom builds now, so there's no need for me
MasterJ37 2 years ago
to go and re-download everything, or go looking for drivers.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
yeah, it has nothing to do with linux.
Design seems quiet old, but i'm goind to install it anyway :)
cruntett 2 years ago
This isn't Linux at all people. Your comments are just idiotic that you keep stating it is. It is completely unrelated.
hardtarheel 2 years ago
nice for just some random people trying to make this, but i think it looks to old compared to any other OS these days :D
twistereli 2 years ago
Haiku isn't Linux, its BeOS or a "unix like" OS. Technically it's not even BeOS anymore, because its being transformed into an entirely open-source OS.
It's like calling Solaris, Linux. Which it isn't its more Unix than it is Linux
cavibird2005 2 years ago 10
@cavibird2005
inform yourself better,BeOS is not related to UNIX at all.
linuxpowerification 1 year ago
@linuxpowerification
You may be right, but this OS has no BeOS code in it cept for the menubar and something else. This OS is specifically based on a modified Unix kernel for optimum speed.
TheWater911 1 year ago
People should only have to learn programming languages or read extensive manuals for more advanced tasks in pretty much any operating system. Linux seems more of an install and you're done OS than Windows does, because in windows you're just supplied with a bunch of closed source crappy programs, then you have to go and check your drivers. Linux usually takes care of it all for you depending on what distro you are using.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
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lemmie know what you think of my haikus
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Skeezyhouse 2 years ago
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I am not a gamer. I use a Mac. And Linux is not good for heavy networking. Windows is really better for that.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Rocking has improved since the 1994 emulator, I believe. As for ATI; hey, how's your own Intel-HPC and nVidia competitive or emulation project going? 3D/240Hz rendering and raytracing all right?
SteveNordqu 2 years ago
Sure looks like it rocks....:/
stupedpindos 2 years ago
I sympathize with Haiku and its development efforts, despite interesting semi-commercial licensing that means your work can be aquired by some company for free and not contribute back.
But this video just fails to show what are
real benefits of using Haiku in 2009, its possible strengths and market niche.
I was expecting to see something that will convince me to find Haiku and install it and try to use it. This Video does not help much to Haiku.
markoresko 3 years ago 2
It's too bad about BeOS and its offspring. I really enjoyed using it around 2000, even as a primary desktop for a while (most of what I did was emacs coding in a terminal anyway). It booted fast, was amazingly responsive, had interesting features, and mostly made other people go "wtf are you running?"
fernwood 3 years ago 5
looks like Mac Os 9
racl101 3 years ago
monkey island ftw!
randalfthewise 3 years ago
Well miss information such as (sic) "there is so many Linus OSs" ... It's nothing to do with Linux and comments saying you should write for a Nokia phone. Please.
HaikuChannel 3 years ago
No need to vote those comments -6 or -7 or -264658394562398571835!
386sky 3 years ago
Watch the "Haiku under heavy load video". Windows would have had a stroke. I myself am an Ubuntu user and I'd have to admit that my cusom build of Ubuntu would have choked when put under that kind of stress. It's worth taking a look at.
Don't hate on an OS just because it's not mainstream.
LTS1287 3 years ago 3
Haiku is about as far from mainstream was you can get. It's not even based on 'nix. It's a copy (actually a pirate copy) of a commercial OS called Be (1997). It's completely incompatible with 99.99% of the software out there. It makes the Mac OS look like Windows. It's a nice, clean OS but it's also a toy. It's not going anywhere.
Danny77uk 3 years ago
ummm haiku is not a pirate copy, thats zeta. beos is a "clone", like linux is a clone of unix.
And its likely to go more places than 99% of the alternative operating systems out there.
ricardsju 3 years ago
I mean haiku is a clone of beos, like linux is a clone of unix.
ricardsju 3 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about. Haiku and Zeta are both clones of BeOs. BeOs is NOT a clone of anything - it's a unique OS written in C++ in the mid 90s.
None of these are going anywhere. There is no software for them and they lack modern technologies.
Danny77uk 3 years ago
I got distracted, and fucked up what I was trying to say, I cleared it up by replying to my self, and you could clearly see that.
what I was saying is :
Haiku is not a pirate copy, its a clone of Beos. In the same way that Linux is a clone of Unix.
Zeta is the pirate copy of Beos, and yes its unique, original os.
There was "no" software for Linux in 1995,just dedicated fans. Yet look where it is today.
ricardsju 3 years ago
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"Yet look where it is today. "
Yeah Linux has, what? 20 users worlwide? haha!
Danny77uk 3 years ago
Danny...
There are millions of Linux users around the globe. It's estimated that 2% of desktop systems worldwide is running Linux and this doesn't include servers, on which Linux is absolutely the most widespread OS.
However, what's the point in you denigrating Haiku? Certainly, it's still a rough OS, but made by enthusiastic people for free. How do you know it won't go anywhere? Are you a newborn Nostradamus or just a freaking Windows/MacOS fanboy? You should grow up kid!
flimbo72 3 years ago 7
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Other than servers or as a 'toy', linux has virtually no credibility as a viable OS. Backwards compatibility is a joke as is driver support. There is no coordination to the effort and most distros just come off as poor clones of Windoze but with basic functionality broken. Also a there are a LOT of lone wolf linux devs out there who are a total dicks and far worse than any PC or Mac fanboy.
Why rag on Haiku? Because it's the same as BeOS and that went no-where fast. It looks as it did in '97.
aribenzane 3 years ago
Im not a fan of BeOS, personally i've never used it. But your comment on Linux not being compatible with hardware was one of the more ignorant i've seen in a long time. Inferno:~# uname -a
Linux Inferno 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 26 01:08:11 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
If your too much of a windows n00b, that means im running Debian lenny on a IBM Thinkpad T43 - the only thing i had to install by hand was the ipw2200-bcm.fw firmware to get my wireless working. Ever since its been sweet. Read more
dellthinker 2 years ago
Don't be a fucktard. Linux does have compatibility issues and you know it. Go run Linux on the newest most powerful ATI card.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Or could that be ATI having compatibility issues?
Ta0425 2 years ago 5
Erm that doesn't matter because it still has problems with linux. Therefore Linux has compatibility issues. If it doesn't work it doesn't work.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Every distro i've installed debian on has never had any compatibility issues, You sound like a 17 year old acne infected teen with low Microsoft skills. Best believe that Linux has supreme hardware support. And ATI is supported too you fucken Windows R-Tard.
dellthinker 2 years ago
First of all, my age doesn't matter. Second, you making personal insults is a bad form of argument. Go to school please.
ATI is supported, yes, but can you get drivers for legacy ATI cards in Linux? No you cannot. I have tried time and time again.
"Every distro i've installed debian on has never had any compatibility issues,..."
That makes no sense. How do you install a distro on a distro? Explain that sir.
Finally, just because you didn't have problems doesn't mean I haven't.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Im baked, so sue me =P You dont need to install drivers for ATI vid cards because its already in the installation. And i meant every Linux distro i've installed i had no hardware compatibility issue. Except for my thinkpads Intel Pro Wireless module. Which i was able to get from source forge in no time. So its not about what Linux can do for you, its about how much time you spend getting it to work for your needs. If you dont use it then you cant speak on it.
dellthinker 2 years ago 3
I've used it. Arch user here.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Actually that is the FGLRX installer being a piece of crap (I REALLY feel your pain there); for the same reason there is no accelerated video driver for haiku, or PPC Linux. Big companies afraid of the users stealing their code.
I personally (as a Linux enthusiast) hope to see haiku mature into the wonderful piece of art it already is beginning to resemble.
hal970fx 2 years ago
If software you write for an operating system does not work, it's because you did it wrong, don't expect the entire linux developer community to alter the kernel to fit around your measly app/driver just because you don't understand how to write software. Your over stating of assertions does not alter reality.
hal970fx 2 years ago
Lol, you mention ATI? Just mentioning their name will give you an error. Saying that stupid shit would be like complaining at software developers why there software isn't running correctly on your version of React OS.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
OS X and Windows run absolutely fine on ATI. Why doesn't Linux? Oh because Linux has compat problems, thats right... I almost forgot.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Oh wow, you must really hate Linux, and love ATI. Last time I checked ATI has compatibility problems with just about everything. Oh wait, it still does! Keep sheltering yourself from reality.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
I don't hate Linux, but I fucking hate ATI. ATI does not have compat problems with OS X or Windows. I use ATI cards all the fucking time.
JamesManes 2 years ago
ATI may not have compatibility probs with the OS itself, but so many 3d games and applications have problems with ATI it's not even funny. That should hint to people that it ATI has compatibility issues, not the operating system. In my opinion, Linux has great compatibility, far greater than Windows. when Vista came out, 1/2 the shit wouldn't work on it, and not much more works on it now. When you install Linux, everything usually just works, no checkkng for latest drivers at all.With Windows...
MasterJ37 2 years ago
More problems then I've ever had with drivers. Everything has to be manually updated, and it Windows sucks doing it itself, so you usually have to do a few google searches yourself. Nice point on ATI not supporting it, but that wouldn't be Linux's fault for poor compatibility, that would be ATI's for not supporting it.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
What applications do not work with ATI? Name 5.
Linux does not support super up-to-date hardware. In fact I have a PC that wont run Linux... like really. The BIOS does not support Linux ACPI. And thanks to RMS recently saying FUCK PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE, Xorg is being re-written. So now many graphics cards that worked fine with Linux don't work at all.
Such a high quality OS isn't it? Breaking perfectly working drivers for "freedom". Xorg sucks anyway. Async piece of shit.
JamesManes 2 years ago
wow, how off-topic you got there. anyways, if you're looking for applications that don't work with ATI, just do a quick google search. Many games don't function correctly. Off the top of my head, Portalized has issues with ATI cards. Ever consider it could be the Linux Distro you're running, not just all of the versions of Linux? Just a thought
MasterJ37 2 years ago
All Linux distros are essentially the same. Same kernel...if there is a driver missing I compile it myself, but drivers for an ATI Radeon 9200 does not exist in Linux land. Not one with true 3D accel that is.
JamesManes 2 years ago
I think I'd blame ATI for not having drivers for Linux, but whatever....
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Well of course, but Linux is "freedom!" remember? What happened to all our free and opensource drivers and shit. They say they make opensource versions of drivers that will replace the closed ones... I don't see it happening. I guess freedom doesn't = efficiency? Besides that, ATI as I see has a few problems, but it still works fine for your average 3D accel on Windows/OSX. As I told you I fucking hate ATI, but it is what the customer asks for here.
JamesManes 2 years ago
well you know, if you do have that much of a problem with linux for that, it is a community project, and no one is stopping you from developing this shit yourself. There are programs I'd like to be made, but I'm not bitching at the world to do it for me; I'd rather just learn some programming languages and do it myself. It's not like there's 3 computer nerds sitting behind a desk developing Linux that you can just scream at for not doing something right.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Yes, because that is my dream... to work on Linux for weeks just to get it to work. I'll just use Windows and OS X. Sit down at the desk, get my homework done, get my photoshop on, watch some videos listen to music. No programming involved.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Lol I guess if you want to =P. If that's all you want to do though, I don't understand why you'd care about Linux in the first place. There's usually alternatives to everything for your favorite operating system.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Linux has its place, but I hate assholes that go around acting like it is god. There are lots of those people.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Well maybe we should just come to an agreement that ATI sucks, and Fanboys are gay lmao =P
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Deal
JamesManes 2 years ago
Thumb me down because you don't want to hear the truth.
JamesManes 2 years ago
lol I'm not thumbing anyone here. check yourself. Why should you care so much anyways?
MasterJ37 2 years ago
My comment was 2 months old. You shouldn't have even brought it back up.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Ohhhh poor you. Then don't reply, genius.
MasterJ37 2 years ago
Why would I not reply? You insulted me. And lets stay on topic shall we? ATI does not have driver problems with Windows and OS X. If you have a supported OS they work fine. Linux just isn't supported.
JamesManes 2 years ago
Actually all that command would tell me is what unix kernel you are running and some of the major options it was compiled with. Not the distro or the exact hardware, as you stated.
Thinkpads are usually excellent choice for Linux. I would not say the same for a random cheapo Acer or Toshiba, etc. There are definately issues you can have with hardware. But for different reasons than with say Vista.
thefattux 2 years ago
Danny77 or Danny97??? Looks like you born yesterday...
Videotubelord 3 years ago 2
I've been using Mac, Windows and Linux machines since the mid-90s.
Danny77uk 2 years ago
Im Linux user number 21 dumbass
dellthinker 2 years ago
LOL!
Danny77uk 2 years ago
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My nokia N81 can do more.Its even a pdf reader, this is basically worse than win95. And dont down rate me because you cant handle the truth. BeOS was great.this is doomed,do u really think it could dream of competing with even DSL yet? Could I carry out a presentation on this thing or does it just come with a txt editor, paint and bad media player? Look, before you make a desktop make a mobile platform to run on e.g open-moko and Nokia internet tablet.Generate peoples interest in the sourcecode!
j230i 3 years ago
wow some people should maybe read about stuff before they post. Way too many people confused this with Linux and yeah...one person got that it was part of BeOS...only if they knew that it was influenced and based on Be....but not Be itself. BeOS is dead...Haiku is its grandchild that someday I will try out for myself =]
ilovecandyrain 3 years ago 3
hey so i liked it very much on qemu (i only was able to run it as root O.o) and is there
1. any way to get it into a real pc (like dd if=/mnt/hda1/haiku.image of=dev/hda2)
2. a web browser in work?
kaiomatico 3 years ago
This looks awesome, I can't wait to try it out!
Meskarune 3 years ago 2
there is so many Linus OSs out there, i'm waiting for PC companies like HP to start making their own for default
Abercr0mbie4life 3 years ago
HP does have its own OS for there unix line of systems.
NovackProductions 3 years ago
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My nokia N81 can do more.Its even a pdf reader, this is basically worse than win95. And dont down rate me because you cant handle the truth. BeOS was great.this is doomed,do u really think it could dream of competing with even DSL yet? Could I carry out a presentation on this thing or does it just come with a txt editor, paint and bad media player? Look, before you make a desktop make a mobile platform to run on e.g open-moko and Nokia internet tablet.Generate peoples interest in the sourcecode!
conorsulli 3 years ago
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Why create a new OS when you can contribute to make linux better?
billadoid 3 years ago
aiku or beos ? hum
c3dr1cb 3 years ago
if haiku achieves to build an os as powerful as the original BeOS and with a better GUI I'll make the switch
derhundchen 3 years ago 2
also does haiku play games like call of duty 4 and crysis etc etc
jurrasicfive 3 years ago
no but it do all the IMPORTANT things
TwoSevenThree 3 years ago
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Yeah it can run stock movie clips and pointless demo 3d apps.
aribenzane 3 years ago
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it doesn't have directx
Abercr0mbie4life 3 years ago
how come ive never hard of haiku?!?!?!?!?!!!
jurrasicfive 3 years ago
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Because about 5 people in the world actually use it.
aribenzane 3 years ago
._.
BetoWater 3 years ago
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looks like my PC in 1996.. i'm all about open source and i absolutely hate microsoft.. but it seems like this OS is stuck in the wrong era.. maybe if they could get some REAL projects ported and running well on it then i would give it a try.. for now i'll stick with OS X
justindarc 4 years ago
OS X? interesting..did you know that it is basically the same as linux? well based on Unix but same kernel etc. I liek the GUI of OS X but it is damn slow compared to linux.
lexyakuza 3 years ago
hey wow, that explains a lot, instead of trying to code a working cut and paste, like most x-based programs don't have, apple just completely left it out.
rimjabbathehut 3 years ago
Actually OS X is based off BSD. And BSD is a direct desendant of Unix. :)
wikipedia quote: "Apple Inc.'s Darwin, the core of Mac OS X; built on the XNU kernel (part Mach, part FreeBSD, part Apple-derived code) and a userland much of which comes from FreeBSD"
Meskarune 3 years ago 4
I can't wait till I can I can get it
GohanDBZ 4 years ago
Haiku Operating system is based on BeOS, which for its time was far more advanced then Windows, MAC OS X and Linux. the way it handles Preemptive-Multitasking, and thread processing, it could have pwnd Windows, if only it had a larger user-base, and a easier to program API. I guess the OS can still suck but as long as there is a multitude of Applications and a good API e.g. (Win32 and DirectX) it will keep the user happy, like Windows per say.
Atheist18505 4 years ago
Mac OSX didn't exist when BeOS was released, not did windows '98! It was a good OS back then (I remember it) but that's not really saying much.
aribenzane 3 years ago 7
I can't wait for the day when I can use this. I gave BeOS 5 a small try and it had impressive performance (or lack of bloatedness :P).
mtfr 4 years ago 2
I was fortunate enough to run the original BeOS on an SMP system. The system monitor tool lets you turn processors on and off like a switch, amazing. If you don't believe how well put together this OS is, download a vmware image. This OS runs faster than DOS in vmware.
This really has some serious potential for education too, a kindergarten class could have a system running this on yard sale hardware.
rimjabbathehut 4 years ago 2
For those who are skeptical of Haiku, let me tell you this, I ran BeOS on a Pentium 166mhz, 64mb ram, & 2gb hdd, and it ran just as fast if not faster than windows xp running on a modern system. I was able to multi-task about 50 programs at once on that old comp without it crashing or slowing down. That includes running music, videos, playing Doom, writing text, editing a photo, using FireFox, & playing a DVD. Haiku rocks!
jermhall311 4 years ago 11
i have to agree! i tryed the same thing on BeOS R4. it got to the point where i was trying hard to crash it! this system is stable
HellzArcticWolf 4 years ago
I agree as well. I ran BeOS Personal Edition for a while and it was superb. Then I ran BeOS Professional Edition and it was the most beautiful OS I have ever used. The people at Be really knew how to develop, because even still the BeOS still beats Windows and even Mac in a few areas. But mostly Windows.
Vlad5010 4 years ago
i just bought a dual cpu PII so i guess that means i can run 100 programs LOL :-)
cusbrar1 3 years ago
Linux is user-friendly for ME.
Still, not a bad idea.
jeddy000 4 years ago
Most people have a job, and some even have a family. Linux has come a long way from the early days, but you can't expect a "desktop user" to be able to fix any serious problem without another system nearby to google solutions.
rimjabbathehut 4 years ago
... and you can fix a "serious" windows problem without google?
Oh yea, you do still have the install cd. Just plop it in and re-install.
Don't blame your incompetence on an operating system. Buy a book.
zariok 4 years ago
@rimjabbathehut ( below )
The "reply" didn't work correctly.
zariok 4 years ago
@zariok How in the fuck is your post a reply to what I said?
rimjabbathehut 4 years ago
Your reply to jeddy000
"rimjabbathehut (1 month ago)
Most people have a job, and some even have a family. Linux has come a long way from the early days, but you can't expect a "desktop user" to be able to fix any serious problem without another system nearby to google solutions. "
My reply:
"... and you can fix a "serious" windows problem without google?
Oh yea, you do still have the install cd. Just plop it in and re-install.
Don't blame your incompetence on an operating system. Buy a book."
zariok 4 years ago
Just like I thought, you completely missed what I had to say and immediately started trolling. That's the kind of thing I would expect from a software engineer (or someone who had the cash for a cert.). We may start to see better software now that we can get someone in India to do your job better for a fraction of the cost. Maybe people who don't speak English will be able to make easily understood software. Most people don't work for their computers, they use their computers to work.
rimjabbathehut 4 years ago
I missed nothing in your original post and I have never paid for a cert... I'm not a MS "engineer".
Don't dodge your original troll about Linux and your inability to properly review it.
zariok 4 years ago
My troll? you are a complete sack of shit zariok. The post I replied to was "Linux is user-friendly for ME. Still, not a bad idea." Jedy000 even went to the trouble of capitalizing it to prevent someone like you from misunderstanding. If linux is so user freindly why has every attempt at mass marketing failed? Even the friendly distros like ubuntu are beyond the realm of "desktop users" (aka normal people). Either way the long and the short of it is get fucked.
rimjabbathehut 4 years ago
You have fun in Vista, you lemming.
zariok 4 years ago
normal people? Obviously you have got your information totally fucked up. Most of the pcs send to poor areas are shipped with linux because it is free. In 10 years you are gonna see a growing number of hitech geeks coming from those places because a) they have grown up with linux, thus are more used to the fact that certain things can be improved rather than cussing at the blue screen of death b) it will far more stable than Windows (as it is already). So check your sources net time, asshole
lexyakuza 3 years ago
Well, I've used linux since 1997 and that's all I've ever heard is that 10 more years. Just keep trolling and it will happen. Those computer giveaways have happened for at least that long, so it should only be 2 years. I got an lpi in 2000 it's still worth dick. Linux has shown what works with free software, which is why everyone has firefox, and not linux. I'm tired of trolls who attack people who don't give linux a shining review. You people are worse than scientologists.
rimjabbathehut 3 years ago
Finally something that could be more user friendly than Linux and also open source. :)
As long as it can run java and mono there will be a lot of applications for it so I think this is really the Operating System that will dominate the desktop operating system market in the future.
worldsfriend 4 years ago 2
Good job guys! Can't wait to have a first release. I loved BeOS and still using it on an old PC. Runs very fast, I can even run actual software like Firefox or VLC and it runs faster on my old Pentium II 400 MHz BeOS powered than on my actual computers!
ugotheking 4 years ago
looks very cool :-) ... hopefully more compatible to ati graphic cards than fkn ubuntu =(
kaiomatico 4 years ago
ATI doesn't make drivers for linux. You can't blame Ubuntu for that. Blame ATI for being stupid.
Meskarune 3 years ago 4
Aww goddamn I wish it was already finished... :>
FrauArschkrampe 4 years ago 2
BeOS was pretty cool, and I had hopes for it. I was disappointed that they went out of business, but I'm glad there is another project to re-create it. it looks like it's coming along fairly well.
jadetraveler 4 years ago
Finally, the return of a mighty OS!!
KivaWolf 4 years ago 4
It's nice see how far the Haiku team have come,
I played with a nightly build on VM player.
The nice old blue/yellow BeOS loveliness.
I can't wait when it enters beta stage.
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strmaster74 4 years ago
To bad development speed is so slow, but I guess that it will pick up better the more usable it becomes.
JohanKH 4 years ago
can't wait till it's ready :D
Yezu666 4 years ago
Looks sweet but I have 3 questions:
Why wouldn't you want the greatest possible grasping space at the top of your windows? Do you really believe it will ever run on even 1% of the world's computers? If so, how long would this take?
Dagibit 4 years ago
YEA! Go Haiku!! I run nightly builds on my system. All you noobs who have no idea of the significance of BeOS/Haiku, dont even bother posting.
-maddog39
maddog392 4 years ago 3
BeOS is back with a vengeance. :-D
scottishpig 4 years ago
Uh, ok, so what does Haiku do that Mac or even--ugh--Windows not do? Why Yet Another Operating System?
rmfinch95616 5 years ago
Why another useless post?
psnider85 5 years ago 2
why not?
windows and OS X aren't the best thing either, they can always get better.
plus OS X and Windows both have a pretty slow base OS under the shell, it could all be a bit faster.
Foxynews 4 years ago
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i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
greetz
Jo
mahjje 5 years ago
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i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
greetz
Jo
386sky 3 years ago
i dont see anything interesting or attractive in this operating system, the advantage that possibly can be is the consumption of ram, cpu, but talking about of usability, tools, etc... thats not show nothinf attractive for use it!
greetz
Jo
386sky 3 years ago
Operating systems are the least about eye candy.
someman7 3 years ago 10
Great Vid!
Alfa984 5 years ago
You're doing a great job. Just booted Haiku in VMWare - works great!
cypresstwist666 5 years ago
I do miss BeOS. 6 Second boots were phenomenal.
nswint1 5 years ago
How different is Haiku that you can't use it?
Dagibit 5 years ago
Haiku is open source and isn't discontinued. The first stage is to have something equivalent to BeOS; the second stage is to evolve this.
GrandMaso 4 years ago 5
Thanks :)
jeanmarc77 5 years ago