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  • there are a lot of easier ways, mine only takes me like half a minute to charge. For 10' of handlabor I preffer to buy the 120 film straight away

  • what does DIY mean ?

  • @ilmononico DIY stands for Do-It-Yourself

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  • Wowowow THANKS A LOT ! But I still have a question, I don't want to have the sprocket holes. I only have the 42x42 mask and the 46.5x46.5 ... so what am I supposed to do,to get photos without them? Or can I just take photos without sprocket holes with a 24×36 mask?

    Please reply, I'm thankful in advance. Much greets !! N :DD

  • @HLberlin When shooting with the 35mm DIY method, image in sprockets is a fact, unless you are using one of the 35mm film adapters made for the Holga or Diana+ cameras, but it doesn't mean you have to print them, you just have to crop them out when getting the images printed.

  • What vignette template do you use as standard when using 35mm film? Does it have any effect on the number of photos taken? Or does it just go by the 12/16 standards as with the 120 film?

  • @0ceanmachine 35mm film is longer than 120 film. Using the 6x6 mask, you will get 17 frames on a 24 exposure roll, and 24 frames on a 36 exposure roll. You will get more frames using the smaller mask, but I don't have an exact count, or know a good turn counter for the smaller frame. Use the chart at photondetector blog for 35mm film in a Holga 120. (Google search for Holga 35mm photondetector)

  • are you a tuba player?

  • @zuantuba No. When I first signed up with youtube, I wanted Kaitube, but apparently YouTube doesn't allow any version of name with the word "tube" in it. I settled on a variation of that. In retrospect, I may have picked a different name, if I knew how popular my videos were going to be. Although, now that I've had the name for awhile, I kinda like being Kaituba.

  • how many photos can you take with a 35mm film on a Diana F+?

    Thank you :)

  • Thanks for the video but I didnt understand How many times should I turn the knob for each shoot? (in diana)

  • You are my hero! Breathe as much as you like, i'm watching for instruction, not enjoyment.

  • can anybody tell me how to unload the 35mm film? cause the link you gave doesn't appear :(

  • @vickytlo The unload video is here: bitDOTly/kDIYUnload. -replace the DOT with a . Sorry, but YouTube doesn't like links in the comments.

  • i'm thing that guy is snorlax

  • I don't understand, I have to turn the knob two and a half turns after each photo, or just the first time to load it? Thanks.

  • @vivalachuminilla After each photo, you need to advance the film, but 2-1/2 turns is too much. Take a look for the Photon Detector blog b doing a google search for Holga 35mm. There's a more accurate turn counter there.

  • your breathing makes me feel like i'm watching some horror film. nice instructions though

  • @MrFrankenteen Yes, in these early vids, it was hard to avoid the breathing since the camera is essentially mounted in from of me. I now make a separate sound recording to be merged later, but it does increase the amount of time needed to make these videos.

  • @kaituba does this produce the sprocket effect? because i bought a 35mm back for my holga but there's are no sprocket holes.

  • im trying this with my imperial reflex not sure if it will work since when i tried yesterday and had it developed they said it was bad but i was using film from 2008 and i did forget to cover up the red hole so maybe now that im using different film and covered that up it will work.

  • @BrianWilliamGreen Covering the red film counter window will definitely improve your chances of getting something usable. If you get some good results, let me know where I can see your images.

  • @kaituba hey i just posted the photos on my blog if you go to my site you can see them it should be the recent post, cant wait to hear your thoughts.

  • @BrianWilliamGreen I'll check them out. Where is your blog?

  • @kaituba look at the recent video i posted there is a link to the photos there, thanks for your time sir.

  • Thanks for making this video, but I still have a question. So from learning how to manually set up a 35 mm film roll into my camera, I tried taking pictures with it. This might sound like an ignorant question, but I honestly don't know if I took the picture or not. The shutter seems to be working fine and the flash goes off and all, but is that all i need to know to be sure that it took the picture? I don't want to risk exposing my film to light by opening the back and checking. Thank you!!

  • @hajincho Opening a loaded camera to check the film is always a bad idea. There's nothing to see until the film goes to the lab and gets processed. Look at the Shooting with Holga or Shooting with Diana videos to help make sure you have the camera set up properly. You don't mention which camera you have, but the basics are the same.

  • Thanks for making this video. Really helps.

    I have a question though. How do I know that when I turn the spool, I'm going to shoot the next picture in the next frame?

  • @lisagibbon Since you can't use the visual counter in the red window, you must count turns of the winder knob, or on a Holga, count clicks. For the most accurate count, the number of turns changes as the film on the takeup spool changes diameter as more film is wound on it. For the best turn chart I've seen, check out the one at Nicolai Morrison's blog, Photondetector: bitDOTly/kPhoton - replace the DOT with a . -youtube doesn't like links in the comments.

  • @kaituba Ah I understand now. I was searching about it on the web and here you are giving me a link to a informative blog. Thank you very much for the link and the video.

  • hate to turn it to mute because of the breathing! lol

  • Can this be done in a Holga 120N?

  • @contrastively Yes, this method will work with just about any 120 film camera.

  • to shoot with the holga.. you just pull the little lever on the side, right?

  • @xODIDDYx To make an exposure, you trip the lever which is the shutter release. Check out my video, shooting with Holga.

  • hi... may i know how to unload this 35mm film from my diana f+???

  • @cinta2music Sure. See my video: DIY 35mm - Unloading the camera - Holga or Diana

  • @playnesgames The noise you hear is probably the sound of the film in the 35mm cassette turning as you wind the film.

  • Why use 35mm. Don't they make Holgas with 35mm?

  • @woodedape Many people like to shoot 35mm in Holga 120 cameras, because they like the look of the image in sprockets that most 35mm cameras don't have.

  • how do you understand when you're finished with the roll?

  • @bassplayer94can When the tension on the winder knob increases to point where it will no longer turn, then you are at the end of the roll.

  • @kaituba thanx.. and is it a good idea to use b&w ?

  • @bassplayer94can I like to use regular b&w film. It takes some special handling, since it can't be processed at your local 1-hour lab. I process my own film, but if you don't know how, you can find a mail order lab that can do it for you. The other option is to shoot a special B&W film, like Ilford XP2 Super, that can be processed at a 1-hour lab.

  • DIGITALREV KAI?!?!

  • @Rawrfearmeh333 Hey, I'm not quite sure what your question is. 

  • What flash would you suggest for the Holga 35mm ?

  • @hellolauratube Most any simple flash unit will work, but most are underpowered. Go to Freestyle Photo Supply and look at the Holga Flash 766120. While a little bigger than some flashes, it has a fairly decent light output.

  • important question: i loaded my diana with a 35mm film, with 36 photos to shoot. now, i marked 2 spots to turn it around 2 times. i must be at 14-15 photos but got suddenly after some clicking strong resistance so i was too scared to "click"/turn it again. now, you can usually shoot with a 120mm max 16 photos, is that why i also cant shoot more with a 35mm film and its time to take it out???

  • @hidoko12  The 2 turns per frame is too much. A more accurate turn count can be found on the Internet. Google Holga 35mm and go to the photodetector blog. The chart there tells how much to turn for each frame. The amount needed to turn decreases as the takeup spool diameter increases with the film on it. When you feel tension, then you are at the end of the roll.

  • @kaituba yeah i read that on another post here, that 2 turns are too much. unfortunately i just saw it yesterday night, when i already shoot the film to an end :P but does that "influence" the film-pictures?or is there gonna be just a bigger space between the pictures on the negative?

  • @hidoko12 There will be more space between frames. It doesn't hurt anything.

  • whats wrong with 120?, why use 35mm?

  • @curtismichael14 Nothing, but some have difficulty finding 120 film or getting it processed and printed.

  • @kaituba yeah thats true

  • that breathing is driving me insane!

  • @melliexo Agreed.

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  • is the same thing for the Diana?

  • @lunadalila This technique can be used in most any 120 film camera. I grossly overestimated the number of turns needed to advance the film. For a more accurate turn count, look up Nicolai Morrision's excellent turn counter chart on the web. (google Nicolai Holga 35mm). The chart is made for Holga, but will work for a Diana using no mask (12 exposure mode).

  • they now make a 35mm back for the diana+, not sure if you knew that or not, either way great tutorial.

  • I know I'm new to this because I just got my camera today (!!!) But why do you tape the red window opening?

  • @mushroom3993 Modern films are sensitive to all light. While the protective backing paper will mostly protect the film, a strong light source, like the sun, hitting the red window will expose the film. You might get ghost images of the numbers and other markings on the paper on the negatives.

  • what are the consequences of not being precise enough with our centering? will it crop stuff off?

  • @joshmolina3 Yes, if you don't properly center the image, you can expect some cropping.

  • Impressive birth mark

  • @AreaQNH870 lol!

  • Argh, he "drawed" on a vintage Diana F. WTF!?

  • thanks!! i was thinking of buying a diana 35mm back and now i see your vid. you saved my money.

  • @androgynymc This is a good experimental solution. If you plan on shooting 35mm exclusively, you may want to think about getting the 35mm adapter.

  • If I do 2 1/2 turns for my film, how many pictures will that give before the end is reached? Just so I can count down so I don't rip the film from the canister trying to go too far..

  • @brokenxbeforexyou The 2-1/2 turns is too much. Do a google search for Holga 35mm and click on the link for the blog at photondetector. Nicolai Morrison has an accurate film counter turn there. You will get about 17 frames from a 24exposure roll of film, and 24 frames from a 36 exposure roll, if you follow his chart.

  • hello there. i have a video with a method to get your 35 mm film digitalized with a digital camera .look on to my channel. thanks

  • which one should i get? i was kind of thinking the holga but i just want the best one.

  • thanks this is really helpful!

  • thank you

  • I see a lot of people doing this using sponge or cotton wool and elastic bands. This looks so much easier and a lot less fuss!

    Great little lesson! :)

  • Hi. I was wondering if I get a vintage diana. does that mean I have to constantly change the bulb after every flash? Sorry I don't really know much about the vintage Diana.

  • @peace4too The original Diana F and flash holder used AG-1 flashbulbs. The flashbulbs are good for 1 flash. They aren't too hard to find on eBay. The new electronic DianaF+ flash isn't compatible with the vintage Diana F.

  • Hey Kai,

    How do you know how many times to turn the knob at the beginning to advance the film to the first frame? Thanks for the vids!

  • @petrovasaff 1.5 turns. Or you will get double exposure which is sometimes really cool.

  • u just saved me a crap lode of money

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  • To kaituba: I wanted to get either a Diana F+ (with or w/o flash doesn't matter to me) or a Holga 120CFN, but I don't know if I'm going to get either because I want to take pictures without the little black curved corners in the pictures. Would a different type of film prevent that, like 35mm?

  • @0bbinary if you want to avoid "the little black curved corners" (vignetting)you have to use the small mask that comes with the diana, to make 16 small square shots (4,2 x 4,2 cm)

  • Awesome. This helps! Thanks : )

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  • Should I use one of the masks on my Holga or just leave them out?

  • @theeuphioquestionThat's up to you. If you want a wide image, go with no mask. Go to Flickr and see which sort of images appeal to you. Mask or no mask.

  • IMO if the film went up and down it would make a really cool hipster effect on your photos

  • how do you unload it??

  • @hangmanneal I have a video for that. DIY 35mm - Unloading the camera.

  • i know you must get this all the time but should get a holga with a flash or with out?

  • @hangmanneal The Holga 120N and Holga 135 only come with a hotshoe for mounting your own flash. I prefer this, as it allows me to mount a separate, but more powerful flash unit than the built in model.

  • @kaituba thank you i just got a 120N on ebay and and cant wait to use it!

  • @hangmanneal get the holga with the hot shoe and then buy a cheap hot shoe flash on ebay for $25 and you are good to go : for $50 you can get Cactus V4 triggers and now you will be set: PM me for more info if this is too short.

  • @windacher Yes, ice cream sticks will work fine.

  • Which do you recommend more? Diana or Holga?

  • @babynur96 While the Diana is more versatile, the camera I most often reach for is my Holga. It's a solid camera with good lo-fi lens characteristics. If a beginner with film photography, get the Holga 135.

  • hey kai! I was wondering if i can do multiexposures with this diy 35 mm film diana?

  • @danokilledqiqiq Yes, just trip the shutter again  before advancing the film.

  • suggestion: when you put the foil in, completely cover the foil with the black tape. The way the Holga is set up here, the possibility is that any light that goes through the film will reflect off the foil and fog a rectangle of film a bit where the foil is from the reflected light. That may be a desired effect too, depending on what results you want, but if you like to cut down on internal reflection, cover the shiny stuff or at least hit it with some flat black paint or a sharpie.

  • @malditoespejo Hola! Yes, I am winding too far in this video. Look up a good winding table, such as the one from Nicolai Morrison (do a google search for Holga 35mm Photon) for an accurate turn table for shooting 35mm film in a Diana or Holga. Comprende?

  • @kaituba thanks!!!! I try to understand the web that u give me. I think It's easy if I compare this with my diana negative roll but I have to try to get pictures closer together in the next roll... I'll tell u!!!! thank u so much!

  • do you think i can use an 800 speed film with a diana F+ 120?

  • @jamdrizzleizzleYes, but the higher number ISO indicates that this is.a more sensitive film, so I wouldn't use it for bright daylight photos, they will come out over-exposed. It would be better suited for low light or overcast conditions.

  • I've always wondered are you sponsored by lomography? you have nearly effing everything by them! haha.

  • @IRTOMM Im' not sponsored by Lomography, I'm just an lo-fi enthusiast, or maybe an enthusiastic lo-fi photographer...

  • @kaituba Well you're a massive help! :) I literally just bought the diana mini with the diana f+ flash. Cannot wait for it to get here! I was also wondering how you find using expired film? Are there any examples of yours you could show?

  • Expired film can damage your camera. It will show a very interesting shot but i wouldnt risk it

  • @jamdrizzleizzle Oh thanks for telling me!

  • @jamdrizzleizzle The roll of txp that I put through my cirroflex last week expired in 2007. My camera still works fine as do all of the other cameras that have had expired film run through them. Seroiusly, if it's been kept in a cool, dry place and is not so old that it's brittle, then it won't damage your camera. With colour film, there can be a colour shift depending on age and storage, and all film will lose speed and contrast. If stored refrigerated, it lasts years, if frozen- decades.

  • Thanks for the tutorial!!

  • Say I took a double exposure picture with the 35mm film, is there anything that varies? that's different from the 120?

  • @FearCoreorg 35mm is much smaller than 120 film, so you are only getting a portion of the original frame. When framing the photo in the viewfinder, you must factor the smaller image area in, that is, shoot with the subject in the very center of the frame, and expect to lose some of the outer edge.

  • Would this work with an Argoflex? If so, how would I do the turning with it?

  • is 2 and a half turns too much?

  • @rainbowsaremadas Yes, sorry about that. For the best winding, use Nicolai Morrsion's 35mm film chart for Holga (google it, cuz youtube doesn't like links)

  • how do i unload it??

    

  • @1Coltorti1 I have a video for that too. Look for my video:

    DIY 35mm - Unloading the Camera - Holga or Diana

  • nice mole bro

  • Your videos are so helpful! I've recently purchased a Holga and a Diana. I really needed your tutorials! Thanks for all the info.

  • @kaituba thanks alot! I will be sure to check it out,

  • @kaituba

    Im trying to buy a Holga and i want to know which type of film is better, the 120 or the 35? And which model is best also

  • @EliRod003 The Holga 135 is the best place to start, because it is a 35mm film camera. There are many good reasons to begin shooting with a 35mm camera. Go to dianacameraDOTcom (replace the DOT with a . --sorry, youtube doesn't like links) and look for my blog post about 35mm cameras.

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  • I Got a 35mm fujicolor 100 24 shots (cuz im broke.) how long will i hold the shutter?

  • @i1z1e1 In normal, outdoor shooting, set the Diana or Holga to the N setting(1/00 sec).

  • no offense but your voice is a bit annoying

  • @chompchompcho what is the purpose of saying this?

  • how to unload the film from Diana F+ once the film is finished? thanks.

  • @MsBielah There is a how to unload video posted here as well.

  • What 35mm iso should i get to do it on my diana f +

  • @i1z1e1 - I usually get ISO 400, but have used ISO 200 with no problem.

  • Hey, I just got my Diana F+ last week. I tried this method (very helpful). I used a 35mm film which is ISO 400. I had it printed but nothing came out on the negatives. What 35mm film should i use? Or what should i do?

  • @historyemg1 Was the negative completely blank? If the film was unexposed, there should still be frame numbers and manufacturer marks on the edges of the film. If you see absolutely nothing and the film is clear, your film wasn't processed correctly. If the film is clear and you do see frame numbers, then the film was unexposed. In that case, make sure the shutter is working and you are using the cloudy aperture.

  • hi people i need your help where i can buy a holga camera in US because is for my sister birthday and she want one of this cameras so badly so please if anyone know where i can buy it please tell me i will be thankful :)

  • @tracegirl1616 Not sure where you are, but online I use Freestyle Photos Supply or BH Photo Video. They have good prices and fast shipping. Local stores, try your local professional photo supply store. Call and ask if they have them before making the trip to the store. Also you can check with Urbanouttfitters, but the kits they sell tend to be a little pricier.

  • do you know if it works the same way with a balda pontina folding camera?

  • @sheiscontagious This should work with any camera. You will have to figure out how far to wind the film, but it should be similar to Holga and Diana in number of winder turns. There are several good charts out there. You can find Nicolai Morrison's by googling "photon 35mm holga"Check your folder for leaks in the bellows. Open the camera back and have a strong light shine on the bellows. Look in the corners of the folds, as this is where you will usually get leaks from cracked leather.

  • When breaking the popsicle sticks, if you bend it towards the crease first instead of away you won't get those little bits you'll have a clean cut

  • sort of irrelevant to the video, but would i still get that warm/dreamy picture (in my case Diana Mini) no matter what 35mm film I use?

  • @Filrox - the type of film you use will affect the image somewhat. Some films have a more vibrant color than others. (Kodak Portra Vivid color or Fuji Superia, for instance). The soft focus is a function of the lens, so the choice of film won't affect that aspect.

  • why not just buy the 35mm version?

  • To save money? Maybe this also wasn't available when he made this video.

  • @nikonfseries Part of the whole lo-fi ideology is trying things in a different way. Shooting 35mm this way, you end up with images that look different from standard 35mm cameras because the image runs into the sprockets.

  • Is it 2 and a half turns for the Diana as well?

  • @bellamoscovitz since I've made this video, I have found charts online that offer a more accurate count for turns. do a google search for "Holga 35mm turns clicks"

  • @kaituba Thanks for the hint! I recently got a Holga 135BC, though, I'll give it a shot!

  • Hello Kai.

    So my questions for you are, when doing this, this will work with any 120 camera? Including the Holga 120FN? (the camera I am using) And when doing this, even though I have a 120 camera with 35mm film, I'm guessing I won't get the same effects as I would from a 120 with 120 film? As in I won't get as many dreamy qualities?

  • Yes, this will work with the 120FN.

    You ate also correct in that you will lose some of the Holga lo- fi effect, because you are using the vertical portion of the camera's negative area, you won't get the corner vignette. That portion of the neg is also the sharpest part of the lens, so there may not appear to be the dropping out of focus on the edges. You can counteract some of these effect by using an accessory wide angle or fisheye when shooting with 35mm.

  • Hi again.

    One more question.

    With a roll of 120mm film, how many shots can I expect to get out of it?

  • 120 film? You will usually get 12 or 16 frames. Depending on the camera. Using the masking inserts, you will get 16 4.5x6cm frames on a Holga or 16 4.2x4.2 cm frames on a Diana+. With no inserts, you will get 12 6x6 frames per roll.

  • @kaituba

    Wow, that's practically nothing. And with 35mm film I'm guessing much more frames?

  • Hi,

    WHEN LOADING THE 35MM FILM DO I DO THAT IN COMPLETE DARKNESS ALSO??? OR IS IT ONLY UNLOADING THAT IS COMPLETE DARKNESS??

    Thanks in advance.

  • You only need to unload the film in darkness, when the exposed film is out of the cassette and on the takeup spool.

  • sooooooooo how many turns do i actually need to do? and how would you rewind

  • 24 clicks, or do a google search for "35mm Film Advance Guide for Sprocket Hole Photography" and lookup Nicolai Morrison's excellent guide on advancing film at his photondector website. (sorry, youtube doesn't like URLs in these comments)

    How to rewind? I just posted the DIY 35mm film, Unloading video.

  • amazing :) thanks man! cant wait for my f + to arrive

  • hi kai, thanks for uploading this!

    will this set up allow the film to be printed at a photo development station or 1-hour lab?

  • I also need to know how to rewind the film.

  • Yes I also need to know how to roll the film back!

  • hey kai what do you then do with the spool with all the film on it?

  • Unload the camera in absolute darkness. Use a film changing bag or use a dark room. Windowless bathroom is ideal.

    In complete darkness, open the camera. Remove the film cassette and rewind the film into the cassette.

    Take the film to a photolab.

    Tell them do not cut the negs. Give them a 35mm film can to put the film in. Reason for this is that the neg frames will be unevenly spaced. Trim them to fit in a std 35mm neg page.

    See my dianacamera website for more complete directions.

  • hello, i just made this for my diana. i am worried that when i go to my local photo developing center (walgreens usually) that my pictures won't turn out. do i need to be worrying about this? also, how might i roll the film back in when i take it out to get developed? thank you.

  • Hi Kai pls answer this right away! I need to know also :)

  • did you ever get an answer to this question? i'm wondering the exact same thing... did you ever get your 35mm photos developed?

  • Go to my website at dianacamera and do a search for 35mm, and you will find a couple of images I shot with my Holga using this technique.

    I have done this procedure only a few times. I find it is difficult to determine how far to wind each frame, and I need to replace my Epson v4490, which I was using to scan my negs in.

  • yeah, i agree how do we rewind the film back into the cassette?

  • so is it ok that the film is exposed to light before you take pictures or do you have to do it in darkness

  • Film in the cassette, ok to expose to light. Film wound onto the take-up spool, only handle in complete darkness.