Your 2001 study shows Native american are closer to Ainu.
"Ainu preserved proto-Mongoloid traits"[24]. Proto-Mongoloid features can be found in most Amerindians (Native Americans), while modern Mongoloid features are an adaption to the "cold". [25] anthropologist Elsie Clews Parsons physical features of the "Proto-Mongoloid" were characterized as, "a straight-haired type, medium in complexion, jaw protrusion, nose-breadth, and inclining probably to round-headedness".[26]
@mongolANDtamerlane - yes, that'd be because they're all from Mu or LeMuria, like i said.
if you want the info on the latter-day genes, it's mentioned in that documentary i linked you, i don't recall the name in it and it didn't show in a brief search online.
the problem here would be that the history isn't just coming from the west, but from many eastern sources also. clearly lots is missing, but the 'mongol empire' lasted somewhat a long time, and is considered to be the size its generally considered to be, from east and west sources. lots of lands were part of it, but left unchanged.
@WhiteNordicWarrior Mongols never ruled Russia. Russia just paid regular tribute to Golden Horde. In fact there is no evidence of anyone in Russia being aware of existence of mongols. Anthropological evidence show that 90% of population of Golden Horde were white people of Nordid type. Same as in Russia itself. There are no remains of mongoloid warriors at the sites of a great battles between Russians and Horde. All remains of Europoid type.
@VendPrekmurec kara is black kor is mountain there is no reason to associate kara with oak. mongol hordes elites were turcic speaking. slavs paid blood tax.
@korgho5757 "Turcic "Kor" was derived from Slavic Aryan (white) - pre sanskrit language "Gora, Gira, Kara" for mountain, and nowhere else. Turks were mixing with Semites and Chinese tribes much later. Regards to "Tartaria"- the Mogul is greek term for "great one" - and has no turcic or chinese or "mongolian" root at all...
Turks wanted to live in peace in Tartaria - this was agreement... The wars among Slavs and Turks happened much later
please please stop the bullshit,actually the asian mongols rule the slavic russians,people related to mongols are central asian countries,even the turks are closely related to the mongols,not slavic russians,modern russians is made up of slavic people,slavic race related to vikings n other europeans people,not asian mongols,mongols were asian,not slavic you russian faggots,truth is,mongols enslave the slavic russians.
Huzzah! I believe it. The humans in power have always had no regard for telling the masses the truth. It has always been non-stop manipulation. Now they'd like us to believe we live in an age where everything is known, and there's no need to even step outside our doors to learn about something.
Fomenko's book is flawed, but I am prone to believing most of it for these reasons.
You ignorant fools. The state of Israel wasn't established until the twentieth century. Does this mean the Jews where nothing more than Arab Palestinian's? OF COURSE NOT. Mongols like the Jews where tribes distinguished by race. Even Russian historians recognize the Mongols as a separate entity before the modern state was established.
I am not a creationist, I am all about truth and facts! Read about Fomenko and how the scientific community has declared his theories "pseudoscience", he is a statastician and mathmatecian who fit his math to fit his theories ...his own people awarded him the Russian "shit" award for worst book ever! This is bullshit. Educated yourselves friends.
just do some carbon dating , how can u invent Greece's art and conquests, Egytian mummies and THE PYRAMIDS and all Roman buildings in the 1500s? this book is complete **** come on, grow up
lol... "Just do some carbon dating". That's really funny. A lot of people today know why this is so funny. Carbon dating often provides vastly different readings of the same object across multiple analysis... So people pick the result that fits their theory best, and wave that particular analysis as 'proof'. Carbon dating is like dowsing for history. Catch up, you're lagging behind.
You can twist history as much as you want but you can never twist genetics
Mongolians and siberians like buryats,oroqen,evens evenkss,carry highest frequencies of haplogroup C3 in the world.Genghis khan his family tree also belonged to C3. and 1/4 of haplogroup O and 4% of Q,N.
Kazakhstan 60%
Hazara 66%
Uzbeks 35%
Tajiks 16%-24%
Turkey 3.50%
Turkmen 14%
This gene can also be found from northwest europe to india.
@JustSomePerson888 WHAT???? you must be insane. Native americans have 0% frequency of Chinese genes... if they had anything to do with people from Asia it was only siberia, but that was like flipping 12,000 years ago.
Native americans are not even mongoloid, they are proto-mongoloid people, which explains why most of them have different features, with large nose and dark brown skin.
That's like comparing pakis with russians. An paki is closer to an Russian, than a Amerindians are to Chinese.
i knew it'd be true, and there is actual genetic evidence.
why in the hell would you find that insane? insane is the suggestion that China and many more areas weren't going to and from 'the americas' all along, there were never much of a break in contact between the land masses.
Look what up? COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING with your wild claim. Show me evidence of such wild claim. Native americans belong to haplogroup Q, there is no genetic evidence.
motherfuckin liar!mongols are mongols,russians are russians!there was invade of mongolian and avar tribes in 4.,5.,6. century other wise in europe want be germans,magyars,bulgars,turks...They split and rape serb-russian population who was living in the whole europe since Noah!so fuck u and your history,fuckin retard learn something or dont lie any more...Fuck you stop posting this nasty shit here...
This stuff is the epitomy of modern day idealism and is total crap. These views are beyond arrogant and ignorant. People were much smarter 2000 years ago then many today would like to give them credit for. Mongol represents a type of person, not a freakin country. Program your computer to speak accurate facts and not conspiracy-theorist crap. And, the Mongol capital was modern-day Beijing... read it helps you to be informed.
@rogtodd I totally agree. Some bitches like this moron russian read history and can't accept it. So they have to distort it into something they can live with. What a bitch.
pathetic ! Then what did mongols fought in Kalka 1223 ? AMERICANS !?!?!?!? Or maybe the nazis ?!!?!? LOL ! Learn history dumbass. Mongols won that battle over russians.
@smoku46 the mongols did not win the battle, that why russia still speaks russian, and why mongolia now uses the cyrillic alphabet and why most of the land the mongols used to own now belongs to russia. mongols won the first battles, but ended up losing badly.
This is one of the most disgusting pieces of ultranationalism that I have ever seen. It rivals how Macedonia tries to rewrite history to suit their nationalist agenda.
This guy is a mathematician, not a historian, and he doesn't even hide the fact.
I suppose the ancient texts, stone tablets, and dated relics are all shams too?
You don't have to be a historian to go to a museum, read the research of others, and critically analyze this nut job Fomenko's work to see that it is rubbish.
the different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
Anyone who intrested in russian-mongolian relationship in middle ages should read the books of Lev Gumilev, the most talanted historian, geographer and ethnographer of Asia.
different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
Oh, yeah! I wouldn't be surprised if that guy says that Soviet Union didn't exist, America is actually wasn't discovered at all, Europe is populated with Chinese.. some shit like that! You're the dumbest person the world have ever seen!
Ha ha! It's just another moron who thinks himself as a wisest person in the world and thinking, Hey, since I'm that wise why don't make money out of it? Well, everybody should say to that poster that he's a stupidiest bitch that ever existed! This video isn't just total disrespect to history of Eurasia, but to all mankind history!
The author Fomenko will not defend his intellectual position based on any peer review utilizing standard dating methods such as carbon dating, etc. Sound suspiciously like nationalisticly inspired pseudo-science. Something like Nazism, that is, that "you are the greatest people, you were brought low by the lies of others, regain your great place as the most powerful people in the world!" This is nationalism and ideological nonsense and intellectual dishonesty.
Why are people so pissed by a theory? Thank God I live in America were I can question events such as this one..I'm saying this is true, but it's very possible
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Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>Fomenko
Fomenko analyzes the Tartar Relation and arrives at the conclusion that Mongolian capital of Karakorum was located in Central Russia (equated with present-day Yaroslavl.) However, the Tartar Relation makes several statements that are at odds with NC (such as that Batu Khan and Russian duke Ieroslaus are two distinct persons). Those are said by Fomenko to have been introduced into the original text by later editors.
The popular explication about the Mongols comes from the Tartar Relation. Yale University published the Vinland Map and Tartar Relation. The Vinland Map has been discredited - it uses 20th century ink on 16th century paper. The Tartar Relation - a letter from the Pope to Kuyuk Khan - is worth looking into.
So how does this all relate to the history of China, India, Persia, and other eastern civilizations? Are the historical documents in the East false or inaccurate too?
Why exacttly would they have spoken arabic? If anything it would have been a Turkic tongue, as Tartars or in otherwords Turkich tribes migrated from Nort East Russia North West China and Mongolia. But, this theory is BS anyway, it does not stand up to records, nor genetic testings of corespondeng migration routes.
If this is true, how do you explain the Chinese records of Genghis Khan and the Mongols? The "Mongols" were a tribe in the Gobi Desert. Explain the recent finding of a record called "The Secret History of the Mongols", written in the Mongol script.
And I've never heard anything about the 'Mongol Capital'. The Mongols were nomads, and built very few cities.
actually i am mongolian guy. Of course i know my history. this video is 100% wrong. first human become in mongolia. the chinggis khaan is not russian. he was born in by beach of ONON river, Khar-Khorin, which was capital city of mongolia when chinggis khaan was alive. repost this video and change the name.
too bad. don`t pontificate. go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge. btw you`ll find there dozens of his textbooks on topology and diffgeom.
WOW. If the "leading mathematician of our time" is this bad at history, I'd REALLY hate to see how badly he really does at math! Is it truly possible that people believe this kind of insanity? How on earth would the people of the Renaissance have had the time to lead normal lives if they were so busy burying "evidence" of the classical cultures? This is so pathetic it's almost laughable, & no truly intelligent, thinking, logical person could possibly believe this farcical nonsense!
Earth>4.5 bln,humanoids>5 mln yrs. Sapiens<150.000 yrs old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS datable earlier than the XI century.
This is a farce, and an attempt to rewrite history. Poland, Israel, and Mongolia are all countries that we independent, conquered, and then re-emerged in the 20th century. What happened was Temujin (Chingis Khan) united all of the steppe tribes, conquered China, the Middle East, and what is now Russia, but generally left them to self rule. More often than not, eventually all of the lands were conquered by other nations or their people broke away from the Mongol Empire.
What a big load of pure crap!! 1st. "Mongols" were called Mongols cuz they came from what it's now known as Mongolia. 2nd. Not all "Mongols" are decent of the Chinese horde. Most of them are a mix with Turkic peoples. 3rd. ancient Greece was way more developed than the following civilizations cuz the were the pioneers. They wanted to evolve.
All of Chinese history is a fabrication? Hundreds of millions of people living across a vast expanse of land suddenly accepted stories from foreigners as their own folklore? Not to mention that ancient Chinese astronomical records are actually *correct*, inconsistent with Fomenko's theory. Although many of his supporting points make sense, it's not hard to see the nationalistic motives behind Fomenko's work, and the similar motives helping to propel it.
World history is simply too complex to be hidden like this. Until recently, there hasn't been a way to convey *your* version of information to the other side of the world, so medieval coverups of this proportion are pretty much impossible. For instance, Greek artifacts reached Japan through the silk road far before 1000 A.D. They are well recorded, and influenced ancient buildings. This makes the entire claim much more ambitious, if all of world history was altered by a couple Europeans.
Terrific Ghengis et al.`Mongol` nomadic tribes were small, illiterate and scattered before 19th cy, in fact they even did not even know they were touted in Russoa and Europe as great conquerors. Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of conspiracy, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate.
This video tells a faulty story about Mongolians. I do not understand those who want to "change" the history afterwards. People who made this video seems never been open the historical books and do not know nothing about Mongolia.
This is what is so important about the internet in allowing presentations that do not represent conditional paradigms. Advice for negative reviewers -- go view what you are comfortable with and leave this study for those who want to examine the truth. The Land of Israel never was -- until worked into a world war treaty for deportation of the Jews.
well now russians are mixed with all mongolians because mongolians invaded them and raped all the women so there are no pure russians as they refer to them
they change things the way they want anyway.mongols were nomads comon dont try it,they settled for more than you can imagine.you people believe in another Jesus anyway,so first explaine the real story instead of putting colourful videos on trying to attract people and by the way fuck that shitty music
WTF, didn't you all know that all nations didn't exist before jews came to do it ? And all religions were invented by jews to fuck other ppl up? And all leaders of all countries were actually JEWS! Listen to the sound: Kaiser - jew, Lenin- jew, Stalin - jew, Mao Dze Dun -jew, forget about all this washingtons and kennedies - all jews, Putin , Kim Ir Sen, Merkel, Blair... You name it - jews. So don't even try to argue. If you're not jew, you're worthless. Like me.
Man its crazy why some people always try to mess with history all they want is not the truth only money .... Davinci code and bluh bluh .... What about Batu khan he was a ghost i dont think so read history more. At that time Mongolian capital city was in a Khar Khorim not in Gobe desert ...
The yoke theory served the end of justifying the Romanovs' claims for the throne and demonising their longtime adversaries - the Horde, or the professional Russian army, which remained fiercely loyal to the old Russian dynasty, deposed and finally destroyed by the Romanovs as a result of a conspiracy.
Actually the legend was constructed by westerners, in 12-13 centuries, to hide the betrayal of syrian crusaders the christian mongols. That is why the polyethnonim - mongols was always associated with evil and barbarians...Actually if there wouldn't be mongols, there wouldn't be a russain federation at all. They would become the part of western europe, or would be slaughtered by teutons coming from north to Novgorod and Pskov.
The Mongol Horde identified as the Russian army are extremely hard to swallow for any Russian, but the mongol savage invaders and torturers of the Russian land that we read about in history textbooks were the protectors of the state in reality - and ethnic Slavs for the most part. Small wonder historians still cannot find a single trace of the mythical Mongol capital - no such capital ever existed anywhere near the Gobi Desert.
Dmitriy Donskoy was a servent of the Golden Horde(ulus of Zhuchi, western mongol empire). He defeated the general Mamay who dared to change the order inside of the Golden Horde, Donskoy did because he was under protection of Tokhtamysh Khan, who later would bring army to rebuild the state.
Bullshit! I don't even want to watch it. I accept that there was an alliance between turco-mongols and russian states. Alexander Nevskiy - russian hero, who saved russians from Western massacre(teuton dogs) was Son in Law of Batu khan, the grandson of Chingiz Khan. Ivan Grozniy himself was chingizid by mother side.(Elena Glinskaya-Litovian tatar) When tatars were sitting he was standing in front of them and listening them as a sign of respect.
check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.
The reason is simple - the actual "Mongol conquerors of Russia" never existed. The yoke theory was created by the German court historians of the new Russian dynasty - the Romanovs. It has served the end of justifying the Romanovs' claims for the throne and demonising their longtime adversaries - the Horde, or the professional Russian army, which remained fiercely loyal to the old Russian dynasty.
no one will ever know what really happened in history.. all we know is the present state of man is the off-shoot and reaction to our history.. period..
Ha ha this is funny. I guess the Persians, Tuetonic Order, Mameluks, Hungarians, Chinese, The Vatican etc etc etc who all wrote about and went into battle with the Mongol Empire are all wrong. Are Russians more prone to conspiracy theories than other people. Is this just an excuse to explain off why the Mongols pwned the Russians for a few hundred years and owned them as slaves.
DNA cannot lie
Ioannhsmiro 1 month ago
they're related cause they are all from Mu / Lemuria, the Pacific-based lands of pre-Atlantis.
the docu about China discovering Americas mentions genes from more recent times in the last few hundred odd years.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Your 2001 study shows Native american are closer to Ainu.
"Ainu preserved proto-Mongoloid traits"[24]. Proto-Mongoloid features can be found in most Amerindians (Native Americans), while modern Mongoloid features are an adaption to the "cold". [25] anthropologist Elsie Clews Parsons physical features of the "Proto-Mongoloid" were characterized as, "a straight-haired type, medium in complexion, jaw protrusion, nose-breadth, and inclining probably to round-headedness".[26]
mongolANDtamerlane 2 months ago
@mongolANDtamerlane - yes, that'd be because they're all from Mu or LeMuria, like i said.
if you want the info on the latter-day genes, it's mentioned in that documentary i linked you, i don't recall the name in it and it didn't show in a brief search online.
NWOareScum 2 months ago
the problem here would be that the history isn't just coming from the west, but from many eastern sources also. clearly lots is missing, but the 'mongol empire' lasted somewhat a long time, and is considered to be the size its generally considered to be, from east and west sources. lots of lands were part of it, but left unchanged.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
Don't tell me that a Russian academic is rewriting history to make Russia look stronger and better than it was/is. This has never happened.
Volkwoolf 3 months ago
@elitewarrior55 watch?v=AAQoiybmqWQ I believe that is the same piece of music.
thewilhelm 7 months ago
@elitewarrior55 It is a piece of latin music which is rather old, however I do not recall the name of it.
thewilhelm 7 months ago
@WhiteNordicWarrior Mongols never ruled Russia. Russia just paid regular tribute to Golden Horde. In fact there is no evidence of anyone in Russia being aware of existence of mongols. Anthropological evidence show that 90% of population of Golden Horde were white people of Nordid type. Same as in Russia itself. There are no remains of mongoloid warriors at the sites of a great battles between Russians and Horde. All remains of Europoid type.
Gjalpinulva 7 months ago 2
"Karakorum" was derived from Karakorin- western "historians" simply added "rum".
Similar as Polish "Krakow" or Krakuf - comes from "krak" meaning an oak or also "arm".
VendPrekmurec 8 months ago
@VendPrekmurec kara is black kor is mountain there is no reason to associate kara with oak. mongol hordes elites were turcic speaking. slavs paid blood tax.
korgho5757 8 months ago
@korgho5757 "Turcic "Kor" was derived from Slavic Aryan (white) - pre sanskrit language "Gora, Gira, Kara" for mountain, and nowhere else. Turks were mixing with Semites and Chinese tribes much later. Regards to "Tartaria"- the Mogul is greek term for "great one" - and has no turcic or chinese or "mongolian" root at all...
Turks wanted to live in peace in Tartaria - this was agreement... The wars among Slavs and Turks happened much later
VendPrekmurec 8 months ago
kara korum means black mountain in turcic
in slavic, after the satem shift, you get carna gora, the same thing
the early name for krakov was kara koru, attested by a traveling scibe.
the capital of kazar kagnate was kazan, never heard about the connection with the chinese wall
korgho5757 8 months ago
What a complete fucking idiot! I just lost my respect for mathmaticians.
Floodlezoot 10 months ago
The mongols over ran china and took over it,but it never became an independent country until the 20th century? dont make much sense to me
Jake4595 10 months ago
@Jake4595 you are scary dumb..
Floodlezoot 10 months ago
ROFLMAO THIS IS THE BIGGEST FUCKING SHITTY LIE EVER!!!
Romamgl 11 months ago
please please stop the bullshit,actually the asian mongols rule the slavic russians,people related to mongols are central asian countries,even the turks are closely related to the mongols,not slavic russians,modern russians is made up of slavic people,slavic race related to vikings n other europeans people,not asian mongols,mongols were asian,not slavic you russian faggots,truth is,mongols enslave the slavic russians.
fmoa 1 year ago
@fmoa The mongols were most likely true. Russia is only so big now because they conquered it back, and a lot more, with mad revenge way later.
KronikLad 1 year ago
Huzzah! I believe it. The humans in power have always had no regard for telling the masses the truth. It has always been non-stop manipulation. Now they'd like us to believe we live in an age where everything is known, and there's no need to even step outside our doors to learn about something.
Fomenko's book is flawed, but I am prone to believing most of it for these reasons.
Yoshi5020 1 year ago
STOP SPREADING FALSE HISTORY! Commie scumbag!
FreiMarienburg 1 year ago
You ignorant fools. The state of Israel wasn't established until the twentieth century. Does this mean the Jews where nothing more than Arab Palestinian's? OF COURSE NOT. Mongols like the Jews where tribes distinguished by race. Even Russian historians recognize the Mongols as a separate entity before the modern state was established.
dorkanderson 2 years ago
I like how this video is most viewed in Mongolia.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
I am not a creationist, I am all about truth and facts! Read about Fomenko and how the scientific community has declared his theories "pseudoscience", he is a statastician and mathmatecian who fit his math to fit his theories ...his own people awarded him the Russian "shit" award for worst book ever! This is bullshit. Educated yourselves friends.
feeefyefofuuum 2 years ago
just do some carbon dating , how can u invent Greece's art and conquests, Egytian mummies and THE PYRAMIDS and all Roman buildings in the 1500s? this book is complete **** come on, grow up
JamesBond0034 2 years ago 3
lol... "Just do some carbon dating". That's really funny. A lot of people today know why this is so funny. Carbon dating often provides vastly different readings of the same object across multiple analysis... So people pick the result that fits their theory best, and wave that particular analysis as 'proof'. Carbon dating is like dowsing for history. Catch up, you're lagging behind.
albinojones 2 years ago
This book is communist dis-information propaganda and has no place on a bookshelf.
FreiMarienburg 1 year ago
You can twist history as much as you want but you can never twist genetics
Mongolians and siberians like buryats,oroqen,evens evenkss,carry highest frequencies of haplogroup C3 in the world.Genghis khan his family tree also belonged to C3. and 1/4 of haplogroup O and 4% of Q,N.
Kazakhstan 60%
Hazara 66%
Uzbeks 35%
Tajiks 16%-24%
Turkey 3.50%
Turkmen 14%
This gene can also be found from northwest europe to india.
mongolANDtamerlane 2 years ago 6
@mongolANDtamerlane - not just that but native americans have a lot of frequency of chinese genes too.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
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@JustSomePerson888 WHAT???? you must be insane. Native americans have 0% frequency of Chinese genes... if they had anything to do with people from Asia it was only siberia, but that was like flipping 12,000 years ago.
Native americans are not even mongoloid, they are proto-mongoloid people, which explains why most of them have different features, with large nose and dark brown skin.
That's like comparing pakis with russians. An paki is closer to an Russian, than a Amerindians are to Chinese.
mongolANDtamerlane 2 months ago
@mongolANDtamerlane - look it up.
i knew it'd be true, and there is actual genetic evidence.
why in the hell would you find that insane? insane is the suggestion that China and many more areas weren't going to and from 'the americas' all along, there were never much of a break in contact between the land masses.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
@JustSomePerson888
Look what up? COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING with your wild claim. Show me evidence of such wild claim. Native americans belong to haplogroup Q, there is no genetic evidence.
mongolANDtamerlane 2 months ago
@mongolANDtamerlane
w w w ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11543902
there's another study, i don't recall the authors name, it's in this documentary,
/watch?v=ujlqENq5S08
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
That's why this dude was a mathematician.
eric235331185 2 years ago
i told you to stop smoking crack and drinking your piss you asshole.
atomic747 2 years ago
this video is 6 min of bullshit.
messengerofdeath2 2 years ago 5
Who's the dumbass who made this video.
PhilipineMan 2 years ago 2
motherfuckin liar!mongols are mongols,russians are russians!there was invade of mongolian and avar tribes in 4.,5.,6. century other wise in europe want be germans,magyars,bulgars,turks...They split and rape serb-russian population who was living in the whole europe since Noah!so fuck u and your history,fuckin retard learn something or dont lie any more...Fuck you stop posting this nasty shit here...
warcrimeserb 2 years ago
This stuff is the epitomy of modern day idealism and is total crap. These views are beyond arrogant and ignorant. People were much smarter 2000 years ago then many today would like to give them credit for. Mongol represents a type of person, not a freakin country. Program your computer to speak accurate facts and not conspiracy-theorist crap. And, the Mongol capital was modern-day Beijing... read it helps you to be informed.
rogtodd 3 years ago
Karakorum, no?
iqabaad 2 years ago
@rogtodd I totally agree. Some bitches like this moron russian read history and can't accept it. So they have to distort it into something they can live with. What a bitch.
Floodlezoot 10 months ago
This is defnitely not true. There is documented historical evidence that completely disproves this crap.
rogtodd 3 years ago
I am mongolian and you're a dumbass. You dick first study history and post this kind of video OK MOTHERFUCKER
erhmee 3 years ago
This is blatantly not true.
ELSuperJake 3 years ago
infedel russia rules and you suck dick!!!
harara1 3 years ago
pathetic ! Then what did mongols fought in Kalka 1223 ? AMERICANS !?!?!?!? Or maybe the nazis ?!!?!? LOL ! Learn history dumbass. Mongols won that battle over russians.
smoku46 3 years ago
@smoku46 the mongols did not win the battle, that why russia still speaks russian, and why mongolia now uses the cyrillic alphabet and why most of the land the mongols used to own now belongs to russia. mongols won the first battles, but ended up losing badly.
mik0logy 4 months ago
@mik0logy - the cyrillic is a relatively recent alphabet. like english.
JustSomePerson888 2 months ago
This is one of the most disgusting pieces of ultranationalism that I have ever seen. It rivals how Macedonia tries to rewrite history to suit their nationalist agenda.
commanderaminius 3 years ago
Are you freakin' serious?
This guy is a mathematician, not a historian, and he doesn't even hide the fact.
I suppose the ancient texts, stone tablets, and dated relics are all shams too?
You don't have to be a historian to go to a museum, read the research of others, and critically analyze this nut job Fomenko's work to see that it is rubbish.
natetheblade 3 years ago
I guess that extra 1000 years of history was just a figment of the collective imagination - Uh, Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrr!!!!!
cryptsub 3 years ago
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the different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
mithec 3 years ago
Anyone who intrested in russian-mongolian relationship in middle ages should read the books of Lev Gumilev, the most talanted historian, geographer and ethnographer of Asia.
mirgavno 3 years ago
None of this is real we are not real this video is not real. People wake up we are in a video game!
tdbh1 3 years ago
You can't say that Christ was borne 1500 after
Christ
sebastinha 3 years ago 2
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different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
mithec 3 years ago
This is crazy
sebastinha 3 years ago 2
different accounts of the same historical events are often 'assigned' different dates and locations by historians and translators, creating multiple "phantom copies" of these events; these "phantom copies" are often misdated by centuries or even millennia and end up incorporated into conventional chronology;
mithec 3 years ago 2
Oh, yeah! I wouldn't be surprised if that guy says that Soviet Union didn't exist, America is actually wasn't discovered at all, Europe is populated with Chinese.. some shit like that! You're the dumbest person the world have ever seen!
BLGMGL 4 years ago 3
Ha ha! It's just another moron who thinks himself as a wisest person in the world and thinking, Hey, since I'm that wise why don't make money out of it? Well, everybody should say to that poster that he's a stupidiest bitch that ever existed! This video isn't just total disrespect to history of Eurasia, but to all mankind history!
BLGMGL 4 years ago 2
The author Fomenko will not defend his intellectual position based on any peer review utilizing standard dating methods such as carbon dating, etc. Sound suspiciously like nationalisticly inspired pseudo-science. Something like Nazism, that is, that "you are the greatest people, you were brought low by the lies of others, regain your great place as the most powerful people in the world!" This is nationalism and ideological nonsense and intellectual dishonesty.
EchosideProductions 4 years ago
No matter how complicated u post the question, the dude is just gonna answer the same old silly crap. Just look at the rest of his videos.
raininxxx07 4 years ago
The posters answers to everyone questions is just mostly from keylogging.
raininxxx07 4 years ago
this is hilarious
Meshelsidek 4 years ago
this is hilarious
Meshelsidek 4 years ago
Mongolia existed, exist and will exist !!!
lacyvert 4 years ago
What a load of garbage. This from the same Russians who believe oil (petroleum) is a renewable resource.
kam3Oen 4 years ago
whats the "official" version of history?
all history is subjective
krupasex 4 years ago
i disagree too! mongolians did exist! i like to read history! especially mongolian and russian... tre is no such thing similar to this video!
akuraska 4 years ago
And I should throw away wikipedia, teachings of my parents and archeological facts and listen to this stuff why?...
JedoDre 4 years ago 2
2 x 2 = 4. that's why!
mithec 4 years ago
You...are...an...idiot...Thank you for playing
Asharis 3 years ago 3
The answer is simple : Wikipedia created by USA
wg390 3 years ago
Im NOT saying this is true I meant...But it sounds more rational than the Biblical events itself
saltydog78 4 years ago
Why are people so pissed by a theory? Thank God I live in America were I can question events such as this one..I'm saying this is true, but it's very possible
saltydog78 4 years ago
Fomenko's bullshit. so called "New Chronology". absolutely dull thing
ennoel 4 years ago
BULLSHIT! (Mongolia also owned the russians for couple of centuries with ther right to give or take)
kababyenoh 4 years ago
omg, BULLSHIT!
leave it to people who are HISTORIANS by training
someone's making money by fooling the idiots.
Love the Jesus ad.
bayervon 4 years ago
Wow... What a great way to make money.. make up some idea and write a book about it.
Records proove that the Roman Empire, Ejyptian empire, and Greek Empire were all BEFORE the middle ages.
I am interested in teh book, however. Haha!
SirFrankoman 4 years ago
Russia was the greatest Empire in a world who keept all its lands together
From Poland to Alaska
It was really great Empire
Funny is that Empire was not violent at all
Just rule that land nothing else
wg390 3 years ago
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lala007hahahehe 4 years ago
i have to say that Mongolia did exist as an independent state before 20th century.. why don't you check the facts first
sarangt 4 years ago
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risyrian 4 years ago
Chronology was a subdivision of Mathematics in the xvi-xvii century. Author`s objective is to return Chronology to the fold of applied mathematics. He does do not cancel events, artefacts, Pyramids, Great Walls, peoples and persons outright, but suggests to find their true position on the time axis. Google>books>Fomenko
mithec 4 years ago
Fomenko analyzes the Tartar Relation and arrives at the conclusion that Mongolian capital of Karakorum was located in Central Russia (equated with present-day Yaroslavl.) However, the Tartar Relation makes several statements that are at odds with NC (such as that Batu Khan and Russian duke Ieroslaus are two distinct persons). Those are said by Fomenko to have been introduced into the original text by later editors.
mithec 4 years ago
The popular explication about the Mongols comes from the Tartar Relation. Yale University published the Vinland Map and Tartar Relation. The Vinland Map has been discredited - it uses 20th century ink on 16th century paper. The Tartar Relation - a letter from the Pope to Kuyuk Khan - is worth looking into.
4449911 4 years ago
So how does this all relate to the history of China, India, Persia, and other eastern civilizations? Are the historical documents in the East false or inaccurate too?
silverbackman 4 years ago
Why exacttly would they have spoken arabic? If anything it would have been a Turkic tongue, as Tartars or in otherwords Turkich tribes migrated from Nort East Russia North West China and Mongolia. But, this theory is BS anyway, it does not stand up to records, nor genetic testings of corespondeng migration routes.
inthespirit 4 years ago
no original chinese recs < xvi cy. NOT ONE. reliably and independently datable. all `sources` appeared as copies in xvi-xvii cy.
mithec 4 years ago
If this is true, how do you explain the Chinese records of Genghis Khan and the Mongols? The "Mongols" were a tribe in the Gobi Desert. Explain the recent finding of a record called "The Secret History of the Mongols", written in the Mongol script.
And I've never heard anything about the 'Mongol Capital'. The Mongols were nomads, and built very few cities.
loqutor 4 years ago
Go to hell,I'm mongolian and iI love russian
plajis kadu,ya mogolyde,ya lyublyu alkasi
mongolian01 4 years ago
actually i am mongolian guy. Of course i know my history. this video is 100% wrong. first human become in mongolia. the chinggis khaan is not russian. he was born in by beach of ONON river, Khar-Khorin, which was capital city of mongolia when chinggis khaan was alive. repost this video and change the name.
mongolempire 4 years ago
i am russian and i am agree with you my friend what kinda propaganda this is fucking shit
overoy 4 years ago
this video actually wrong. i am french historian.
mongolempire 4 years ago
mithec, are you payed by fomenko?? How can you be this stupid?? Read a book for a change, dont believe this crap
koningjan 4 years ago
too bad. don`t pontificate. go to google or to amazon>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book free of charge. btw you`ll find there dozens of his textbooks on topology and diffgeom.
mithec 4 years ago
WOW. If the "leading mathematician of our time" is this bad at history, I'd REALLY hate to see how badly he really does at math! Is it truly possible that people believe this kind of insanity? How on earth would the people of the Renaissance have had the time to lead normal lives if they were so busy burying "evidence" of the classical cultures? This is so pathetic it's almost laughable, & no truly intelligent, thinking, logical person could possibly believe this farcical nonsense!
ysabeldelille 4 years ago
Earth>4.5 bln,humanoids>5 mln yrs. Sapiens<150.000 yrs old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS datable earlier than the XI century.
mithec 4 years ago
thats because c14 dating is unreliable once you go past 3000 years.
SithHunter92 4 years ago
ancient rome greek egypt invented the hell!jesus born in 1000 something ad?
nutdo1 4 years ago
This is a farce, and an attempt to rewrite history. Poland, Israel, and Mongolia are all countries that we independent, conquered, and then re-emerged in the 20th century. What happened was Temujin (Chingis Khan) united all of the steppe tribes, conquered China, the Middle East, and what is now Russia, but generally left them to self rule. More often than not, eventually all of the lands were conquered by other nations or their people broke away from the Mongol Empire.
AlaricRose 4 years ago
GREEK! weel mongol and turk are one pipl in the same land so dont think about europ also russian
sami900 4 years ago
Oh, my gosh! This is unbelivable, the bigger the lie? This is such foolishness.
wolfhunter0321 5 years ago
What a big load of pure crap!! 1st. "Mongols" were called Mongols cuz they came from what it's now known as Mongolia. 2nd. Not all "Mongols" are decent of the Chinese horde. Most of them are a mix with Turkic peoples. 3rd. ancient Greece was way more developed than the following civilizations cuz the were the pioneers. They wanted to evolve.
Temur20 5 years ago
All of Chinese history is a fabrication? Hundreds of millions of people living across a vast expanse of land suddenly accepted stories from foreigners as their own folklore? Not to mention that ancient Chinese astronomical records are actually *correct*, inconsistent with Fomenko's theory. Although many of his supporting points make sense, it's not hard to see the nationalistic motives behind Fomenko's work, and the similar motives helping to propel it.
iamimsa 5 years ago
World history is simply too complex to be hidden like this. Until recently, there hasn't been a way to convey *your* version of information to the other side of the world, so medieval coverups of this proportion are pretty much impossible. For instance, Greek artifacts reached Japan through the silk road far before 1000 A.D. They are well recorded, and influenced ancient buildings. This makes the entire claim much more ambitious, if all of world history was altered by a couple Europeans.
iamimsa 5 years ago
Terrific Ghengis et al.`Mongol` nomadic tribes were small, illiterate and scattered before 19th cy, in fact they even did not even know they were touted in Russoa and Europe as great conquerors. Russian history as we know it today is a blatant forgery concocted by a host of German scientists brought to Russia by the usurper dynasty of the Romanovs, whose ascension to the throne was the result of conspiracy, charged with the mission of making their reign look legitimate.
mithec 5 years ago
This video tells a faulty story about Mongolians. I do not understand those who want to "change" the history afterwards. People who made this video seems never been open the historical books and do not know nothing about Mongolia.
Surenji99 5 years ago
The capital center of Russia federation should be in Kazan City.... URA!!!
HvatKondrat 5 years ago
This is what is so important about the internet in allowing presentations that do not represent conditional paradigms. Advice for negative reviewers -- go view what you are comfortable with and leave this study for those who want to examine the truth. The Land of Israel never was -- until worked into a world war treaty for deportation of the Jews.
GoddaCreate 5 years ago
well now russians are mixed with all mongolians because mongolians invaded them and raped all the women so there are no pure russians as they refer to them
swintus777 5 years ago
they change things the way they want anyway.mongols were nomads comon dont try it,they settled for more than you can imagine.you people believe in another Jesus anyway,so first explaine the real story instead of putting colourful videos on trying to attract people and by the way fuck that shitty music
turkzadeh66 5 years ago
Sorry, forgot to mention, this hordes had KAGANS, as their commanders. And they were judaists. That's a FACT, not fiction.
hplohish 5 years ago
WTF, didn't you all know that all nations didn't exist before jews came to do it ? And all religions were invented by jews to fuck other ppl up? And all leaders of all countries were actually JEWS! Listen to the sound: Kaiser - jew, Lenin- jew, Stalin - jew, Mao Dze Dun -jew, forget about all this washingtons and kennedies - all jews, Putin , Kim Ir Sen, Merkel, Blair... You name it - jews. So don't even try to argue. If you're not jew, you're worthless. Like me.
hplohish 5 years ago
mongolians are not russians, they different race of people.
funkyzeitmitbruno 5 years ago 2
Man its crazy why some people always try to mess with history all they want is not the truth only money .... Davinci code and bluh bluh .... What about Batu khan he was a ghost i dont think so read history more. At that time Mongolian capital city was in a Khar Khorim not in Gobe desert ...
MindDestructionmn 5 years ago
I guess Romanovs also wrote all the Ukrainian and Russian folklore that predates them that referrs to mongols and tatars as that same horde.
Bullshit. Sensationalist writer trying to make money.
DeMaximo 5 years ago
And after all, all of those were PEOPLE fighting and trying to invade. The only thing changed is that now the wars are economical as a cause.
drunkrussianartist 5 years ago
The yoke theory served the end of justifying the Romanovs' claims for the throne and demonising their longtime adversaries - the Horde, or the professional Russian army, which remained fiercely loyal to the old Russian dynasty, deposed and finally destroyed by the Romanovs as a result of a conspiracy.
mithec 5 years ago
Actually the legend was constructed by westerners, in 12-13 centuries, to hide the betrayal of syrian crusaders the christian mongols. That is why the polyethnonim - mongols was always associated with evil and barbarians...Actually if there wouldn't be mongols, there wouldn't be a russain federation at all. They would become the part of western europe, or would be slaughtered by teutons coming from north to Novgorod and Pskov.
debashir 5 years ago
The Mongol Horde identified as the Russian army are extremely hard to swallow for any Russian, but the mongol savage invaders and torturers of the Russian land that we read about in history textbooks were the protectors of the state in reality - and ethnic Slavs for the most part. Small wonder historians still cannot find a single trace of the mythical Mongol capital - no such capital ever existed anywhere near the Gobi Desert.
mithec 5 years ago
Dmitriy Donskoy was a servent of the Golden Horde(ulus of Zhuchi, western mongol empire). He defeated the general Mamay who dared to change the order inside of the Golden Horde, Donskoy did because he was under protection of Tokhtamysh Khan, who later would bring army to rebuild the state.
debashir 5 years ago
Bullshit! I don't even want to watch it. I accept that there was an alliance between turco-mongols and russian states. Alexander Nevskiy - russian hero, who saved russians from Western massacre(teuton dogs) was Son in Law of Batu khan, the grandson of Chingiz Khan. Ivan Grozniy himself was chingizid by mother side.(Elena Glinskaya-Litovian tatar) When tatars were sitting he was standing in front of them and listening them as a sign of respect.
debashir 5 years ago
check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.
mithec 5 years ago
The reason is simple - the actual "Mongol conquerors of Russia" never existed. The yoke theory was created by the German court historians of the new Russian dynasty - the Romanovs. It has served the end of justifying the Romanovs' claims for the throne and demonising their longtime adversaries - the Horde, or the professional Russian army, which remained fiercely loyal to the old Russian dynasty.
mithec 5 years ago
liar.
bulbous915 5 years ago
no one will ever know what really happened in history.. all we know is the present state of man is the off-shoot and reaction to our history.. period..
calvinflores 5 years ago
Can it be that some people come up with sensational theories in order to make money?
Uziyahu 5 years ago
Listen to the narrator. He sounds like text-to-speech! WTF is he? An agent from the Matrix?
Uziyahu 5 years ago
According to the official version of history??!?! lol what's that? i guess this guy has his own made up official version of history...
moojig 5 years ago
LOL How does this guy knows all this?
garashta 5 years ago
Ha ha this is funny. I guess the Persians, Tuetonic Order, Mameluks, Hungarians, Chinese, The Vatican etc etc etc who all wrote about and went into battle with the Mongol Empire are all wrong. Are Russians more prone to conspiracy theories than other people. Is this just an excuse to explain off why the Mongols pwned the Russians for a few hundred years and owned them as slaves.
MisanthropeMojo 5 years ago
haha wut the... some real smart people in the world huh?
Hero123 5 years ago
^^ good joke!
over2there 5 years ago