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  • Damn i ve allways wanted to know enough to install arch linux... well i did that but i never got past the "installing GUI"... TOO BAD :(

  • @71GA You're never too late! Practice on other user-friendly distro, and read carefully the Beginner's Guide, I guarantee you'll install it without problems!

  • Do you remember what theme you are using in this video? I really want to build a desktop like you did. It's beautifully elegant. The same is true with the wallpaper. What I really like is all the rounded rectangles.

  • What music is this? It's really nice.

  • @PunkJediEwok It's from the Youtube AudioSwap collection, I cannot really remember the name, I' m sorry.

  • How much RAM is that config using?

  • @hheintze1 Now it's something like 90 megabyte at the startup, with Terminal running and some daemon... It's a lot, but this configuration uses a default generic kernel, it keeps several services running, Terminal (which isn't that lightweight) and so on... On my EEE pc 901, with a custom compiled kernel, compiled packages with optimized compilation flags, only the essential daemons and no composite I reached something like 32 megabyte at the startup, with the possibility of further improvements

  • care to share that bmpanel and openbox config? setting up openbox on deban and there some things here i'd like to borrow. thanks

  • @bloozism Concerning bmpanel, I used the Arch theme, you can find it on the official bmpanel page, concerning the Openbox configuration take a look at the Openbox wiki page on the Arch Linux wiki and also on this blog: (google for "urukrama openbox"). those sources are so complete and well written that it's hard to do better!

  • Really nice; don't you get bored of all that perfection?

  • @Mithferion :) Thank you... It fits my needs so well that the last change I did since this video was published was yesterday!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Lemme see, then. And thanks. :).

  • Your icons are giant.

  • nice

  • great looking desktop, im trying to set that fullscreen terminal up too, how did you do that? if i just set xfce4terminal to fullscreen the normal way it overlays itself on top of bmpanel and i cant click the panel anymore!

  • @cybergoose That fullscreen terminal is done by manual configuration in the rc.conf configuration file of Openbox

  • @cybergoose It's plain xml, you have to write down an  "application" tag and set to true a nested "maximized" tag

  • What a great looking system, good job!

  • What's your tint2 theme? Looks cool!

  • @lighteningwawa The bar is bmpanel and the theme is called Arch.

  • @TheCellarGuardian Oh, I tried it and I found that if you use the theme "Arch" you cannot enable the system tray in bmpanel. I tried to disable compositing in the theme file and I found it looks ugly ^_^

  • @TheCellarGuardian Oh, I tried it and I found that if you use the theme "Arch" you cannot enable the system tray in bmpanel. I tried to disable compositing in the theme file and I found it looks ugly ^_^

  • @lighteningwawa My solution: don't use the system tray, it's really useless! : ) I realized that I used my system tray ONLY to set up volume, so... I just dropped the whole thing and decided to set my volume, just in case, through Alsamixer. I've always a terminal running in its dedicated desktop, so it's really a matter of seconds, if you consider, then, that adjusting the volume isn't a really frequent action...

  • @TheCellarGuardian In fact the only app which I must use in the tray is Wicd. I have to connect to WiFi network. Thank you for your advice anyway.

  • @lighteningwawa I know it may sound extremist, but if the only application you need the system tray for is Wicd, why don't use a self-made script (there are a lot of ready scripts), or, if you like higher leve programming, make your own utility? I use netcfg, a VERY simple script you can find on Arch, but once you've read the procedure to connect manually to an Access Point (wpa_supplicant, dhclien/dhcpcd and so on...) making a script from it is simple!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Hey, you have wicd-curses ;)

    I myself have always some open urxvts with wicd-curses, htop, alsamixer and ttyload

    No need of systray so far...(I'm using scrowm)

  • @lighteningwawa You save ram (Wicd is on Python, isn't it?), CPU time, taskbar space... And it's really cool!

  • Love your setup. Could you possibly post a detailed guide for an Arch noob to emulate your setup, whether that would be a blog post, a script uploaded to Github, or some other means of sharing a detailed guide? I know at least one person would be greatly appreciative of such, probably even more ;)

  • @inkayacu My friend, as you know, writing a guide is a very time-consuming activity, and unfortunately I have very little time at my disposal... Maybe a day, but until that day is come my best advice is: take a look to the Arch's Wiki, one of the best Wikies I' ve ever seen. Start with the Beginner' s guide to set up a very minimal system, then set up the X server and Openbox, and choose carefully the applications you need, having minimality and lightness in mind.

  • How can you set man in color?

  • @Flackon Take a look here: wiki archlinux org / index php / General_Recommendations # Man_pages

  • Awesome desktop! What theme gtk theme do you use?

  • xcompmgr hates my Intel drivers. Does anyone know an alternative ?

  • @MisterJ4512

    Cairo-compmgr is the first that comes to mind.

  • @MisterJ4512 That's pretty unusual, Intel drivers are impeccable... Anyway, if your problem consists in sporadic glitches, it's normal : )

  • I use the same!Arch+openbox+xcompmgr,wow­,I think this is a amazing idea!

  • Wow, looks amazing.

  • @Akeisson Thank you!

  • Awesome setup!

  • I love OpenBox + fbpanel (tint2 doesn't really cut it), also have nitrogen and lxappearance and tried lxpanel too. I'm not sure what xcompmgr is, but I have it installed as well.

  • @sookster54 xcompmgr is a compositor, it manages simple effects such as transparency, shadows, fade in and out and so on...

  • Beautiful build, I'm impressed. It looks like you took a lot of time with it and have exactly what you wanted. What song is that by the way? Thanks in advance!

  • @l2elesane Time well spent! I don't know the title of the song, I' ve found it on the YouTube AudioSwap colleciton

  • what bottom bar is that, and what image viewer?

  • @Crypt1cmyst1c BMPanel and Ristretto (it's all in the video annotations)

  • that for the icons and theme in thunar?

  • Excellent. video. I absolutely love Arch Linux. And from watching your video it has inspired me to try out some new things.

    Very nice!

    Thank you

  • @midfingr You honor me!

  • uhm

  • that's not really usable ...

  • @fanqstefan

    How is that not usable?

  • @neonfuz123 I was thinking of the way thunar looks on your configuration; the icons seem way to large (I couldn't use it like this)

  • @fanqstefan

    yeah, thats what i thought when i saw the video at first, but i see that in a lot of setups like this supprizingly, there is probaly a setting you could use to set it down, then back up when you want, i think it would be nice if you had a big resolution, and or had a big picture collection as it appeared he had

  • beautiful, very clean... really like it!

    

  • @ardukar Thank you so much!

  • has anyone found out what music this is yet. FYI, shazam can't identify it :(

  • I love it

  • @shalnarkR Thank you my friend!

  • lol my mom is goin to by us an abunta this week im so excited,

  • xcomprmgr? Does it work Ubuntu 11.04?

  • @theif519 I've never tried it on Ubuntu but I think there shouldn't be problems, unless some Gnome component conflict with it, but I really don't think so...

  • @TheCellarGuardian Thank you for taking your time to reply, but I recently found out that it's either, as you said, Gnome interfering, or it's Unity, which Unity interferes with everything Compiz.

  • I like the music, what is it?

  • @seth817 I really cannot remember the name of the song, anyway it's a song from the AudioSwap collection of YouTUBE, so, if you search under jazz, maybe you'll find it! It took more than two hours to find it, but when I listened to it, I tought: "Yes, this is what I want. Brilliant."...

  • I have the same glitch happening to me when I run Chromium or Chrome while xcompmgr is running. Due to this, I have sadly been forced to use Firefox 4.

  • @SherryManolov I use Firefox too, but my main browser is still Chromium, that glitch doesn't bother me so much... Well, it's annoying, but I like Chromium so much I can't switch to another browser... I tried Midori, lightweight and fast as a software, but the rendering components doesn't seem as responsive as WebKit (just an impression, nothing tested).

  • @TheCellarGuardian Yeah, I am currently attempting to develop a fix for this, and will tell you about my findings when I do! Best regards.

  • @SherryManolov Thank you so much!

  • perfect soundtrack! and very beautiful openbox config....

  • I have installed Arch, Openbox, and Firefox but I'm trying to keep my install really light. Just wondering, by installing Firefox, have I already accumulated all the GNOME libaries, etc? If I were to install say, K3B, would that pull in all the KDE background stuff, and would it slow my system down? Can someone suggest a place where I can find a list of non GNOME/KDE apps for Openbox? Many thanks!

  • @22ness0hayden for Firefox, not all GNOME, but the gtk+ libraries only. They will be installed, but only then firefox is open, the libraries will get loaded, too. It is the same behaviour for K3B and the qt libraries. The performance will be almost the same, dont worry about a great penalty.

    I have openbox installed, and for internet I use firefox, for console evilvte (very fast terminal, customizable before compilation), for images Mirage, clock and bla bla, gkrellm. Emesene for music,

  • Qalcualte! for calculator, gimp for image edit, evince for pdf viewer, and emacs with gtk support for programming.

    All this programs uses gtk+ libraries, so there is almost no penalty. I use no taskbar or file manager. The window behaviour is the same of enlightenment windows, and for everything else I use, the console is a great friend (mounting, burning, file managing...). Shortcut capability makes Openbox a very dynamic and fast window manager, not using the menu for anything not special.

  • @0tamay duh xD Emesene for msn, audacius2 for music, hahahaha

  • That's sexy, I think I'll have to packy -S xcompmgr and maybe bmpanel too :)

  • Looks nice, but what themes did you use?

  • @TheBigMole One of Openbox' defaults for the decorations, DarkerIce for widows and Black and White 2 gloss for the icons

  • Now that's sexy,gotta ditch tint2.

    Do you know how can i get that bmpanel theme?Also that arch logo in the panel,is it like a menu when you click it or what?

  • @The3XpL0D You can find the theme on bmpanel's official page, the Arch logo has aesthetical purposes only.

  • nice man , i haven't installed arch (yet !!) but nice Desktop

    i just installed debian on my Computer

    i used to use fluxbox , but open box seems nice too , not too diferent , but nice

    congrats !

  • Im jealous. Still new to window managers I have openbox + gnome on my craptop but your not using a DE?

  • @Omayga260 No my friend, and everything becomes faster, simpler and safer!

  • I'm gonna try out Openbox on my main computer and my netbook. Currently I'm using which also runs awesome on BOTH machines (okay loadtimes, effects, etc.).

  • It's a beatiful desktop, I must say is one of the greatest configs I've ever seen.

  • @nicojengler :D glad to read it! Thank you so much!

  • This is by far one of the most beautiful dektop setups I've seen in a while. Arch Linux and Openbox rules. :) Also, the music adds alot to the video. Cheers.

  • @AndrewShadows Thank you so much, glad to read it!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Np man. I've been planning to switch from Fedora for a while and some videos on arch, and specially yours, have just made my mind about which distro to move into. And also it has a rolling release cycle, which is a big plus. I love keeping my stuff on the bleeding edge.

  • @AndrewShadows Excellent choice my friend! In this period, even though my primary distribution is still Arch, I'm trying a Fedora Spin, Fedora Security Lab, and I have to say it's quite interesting, in particular under the security aspect, I'm thinking about posting a video on it!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Oh, I see. I`ve just taken a look at their website and it seems indeed like it`s an interesting distro to try, since I`m really amazed by computer forensics and information security. Thanks for the tip.

    Btw, I`m setting up both Arch and Openbox for the very first time -- I`m not even that much familiar with the Linux config files --, so, given the somewhat difficult (though rewarding) work I`m having to put into it, it makes me appreciate even more your setup.

  • @AndrewShadows : ) glad to read it, let me know my friend!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Hey mate, I`m having some issues with my menu. Did you build yours from scratch or did you use some sort of menu maker?

  • As I told you, this is how I want my PC. So I installed Arch (installing some drivers was an epic adventure) and Openbox. But everytime I enter Openbox (by entering "xinit openbox" or "xinit openbox-session") a blank terminal, labeled as "login", appears and it does nothing but echo some actions (as opening a program). If I close it Openbox gets closed. I've noticed that this does not happen to you, do you have any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thanks in advance =)

  • @metasjodiendo Hi my friend, I' m happy you' re getting in Arch and Openbox! You could want to enter directly the graphical environment, if you do, just modify the default runlevel in /etc/inittab from 3 to 5. Concerning your issue, you have to edit (create if it doesn't exist) the .xinitrc file in you home (pay attention to the . ), it should contain this string: "exec openbox-session". Once you've done it, start the X server with startx and you'll be in you new Openbox environment!Let me know!

  • Man, I'm completly amazed with you fluxbox personalization. Could you tell what theme are you using and where can I download it?

  • @rvernucio Thank you! Anyway, it's Openbox, the decoration is a default one, while the gtk theme is DarkerIce, you can find it on gnomelook!

  • this is extreme beautiful linux !!

    gentoo and arch FTW !!

  • @linuxrealpower Thank you so much my friend!

  • Dude, your PC is incredible!

  • see archbang 2010 ready movie by sneeky linux

    for an impression of the latest setup

    more details here:

    search the archwiki on archbang for more info.

    The easy install and simple config are nice; adeskbar you will have to get from AUR

  • arch plus openbox is also my dream combo; fast as hell, just like on your pc.

    I'm using Archbang and use pcmanfm and tint2 as bottom bar and adeskbar, the least intrusive dock as app starter;

    nice piano music btw

  • @pablokav This is the first time I hear about Archbang! Tell me more, what's in it? It would be really great if it included ONLY the applications you mentioned, and NOTHING more, or, at least, it would be great for it to be as minimal as possible...

  • whats diffrence between fluxbox and openbox

  • @zubatzu They're quite similiar. Openbox can be configured through only 2 simple xml files and 1 sh script for the autostart, which, at the beginning, are completely blank. Fluxbox, instead, comes with default configuration files. Openbox has no default panel, while Fluxbox has its own panel. They're both fast as hell and minimal, I prefer Openbox due to its adherence to the standards, its nice and clean design, its outstanding simplicity and the lack of any kind of imposition or limitation.

  • great work!

  • @MrJollanza Thank you!

  • pcmanfm recently became a full file browser

  • How did you get your panel to look like that? And are you using Gnome as a desktop environment? Sorry, I'm just switching from Ubuntu and openSUSE (KDE) to Arch and am so confused by everything.

  • @smartarted The panel is bmpanel with the Arch theme, I' ve no Desktop Environment, I'm using Openbox, which manages only windows (Window Manager)

  • pcmanfm or thunar?

  • @5220640 Thunar, but I have recently tried pcmanfm and I find it wonderful, I' m thinking to switch permanently to it!

  • You have MANPAGER="vimmanpager" ? I didn't think less could be colorized. I just discovered xcompmgr and it's running on Xmonad on Gentoo. Works quite well I must say. :)

  • @Ormaaj For what concerns the man pages, I followed the Arch Linux Wiki on "Man Page", there are two methods, one involving most, the other involving less, take a look at that and let me know my friend!

  • Woah! Awesome desktop! I can't wait to install Arch. If you don't mind me asking, where did you get that theme? It looks amazing!

  • @TuxADay Thank you so much! The theme is DarkerIce, you can find it on gnomelook!

  • @TheCellarGuardian Thank you, friend. I am install Arch right now!

  • I recommend htop.

  • @ppawelppawel Thank you my friend! It's wonderful! Thank you so much! I've just installed it and it's so cool, a very nice tool indeed!

  • Fantastic looking desktop, minimal is beautiful. Great music as well! I'm in the process of installing arch right now.

  • @metalbloodshed Great, have fun with it! Let me know!

  • @metalbloodshed Thank you so much my friend!

  • What's this theme and how to install it?

  • @DreamdoctorBL Hi! The theme is DarkerIce, you can find it on gnomelook! You can install it throug Openbox Configuration Manager (obconf).

  • @TheCellarGuardian

    thanks a lot :)

  • wow è bellissimo il desktop!!

    è difficile da usare arch? sono abituato a ubuntu che fa tutto lui :D

  • @amdnovello Ciao! Allora, usare Arch può richiedere un po' di esperienza in più, anche perché non fa tutto da sé, e questo è il bello: ogni caratteristica del sistema è dovuta a una scelta personale (o a una mancata scelta). Prima di passare ad Arch ti consiglio di fare un po' d' esperienza con la shell e con i meccanismi principali di un sistema Linux, dopodiché puoi continuare su Arch, senza paura: il wiki è fenomenale e c' è una community fantastica! Fammi sapere, buona fortuna!

  • @TheCellarGuardian ok grazie

    quando avrò coraggio proverò. è che i trovo troppo bene con windows 7. hanno fatto uscire un so degno di esistere dopo vista ahah

  • @amdnovello Certo, comunque non preoccuparti, puoi sempre continuare ad utilizzare Windows 7, puoi installare i due sistemi insieme e scegliere all' avvio quale usare, oppure, se non vuoi creare una nuova partizione su disco, puoi sempre utilizzare una macchina virtuale su Windows 7 e farci girare su Arch Linux, in maniera sicurissima, così inizi a farci la mano e senza tanti problemi!

  • What theme is it in the video?

    It looks very slick and cool.

  • @Gurka9999 Hi! The theme is DarkerIce, you can find it on gnomelook!

  • great job! I use arch/gnome. and I installed openbox but it did not work. can you send me a link that shows how to install and configure openbox?

  • @ibrahimalghamdi94 Hi! Notice that Openbox is a Window Manager, it manages ONLY your windows and decorations, nothing else! You can use it stand-alone or inside a Desktop Manager such as Gnome or KDE, in any case look for Openbox in the Archlinux Wiki, it's a big page with every kind of information you may need, from installation to fine tuning! Let me know my friend!

  • A few months ago I was actually encouraged to use openbox on my Arch box by this video. Thanks. : )

  • @yngvarbloodaxe Glad to hear that! All the best my friend!

  • Hey nice setup! may i ask what app you have used to record your desktop and what format you save it to? Loving Arch!

  • @adam9575 Hi! I used xvidcap, but I think there are more performant softwares out there! The codec is mpeg4, the container is an .mpeg. (I'm not really into the video stuff, I hope not to have written nonsense!)

  • @adam9575 Hi! I used xvidcap, but I think there are more performant softwares out there! The codec is mpeg4, the container is an .mpeg. (I'm not really into the video stuff, I hope not to have written nonsense!)

  • @TheCellarGuardian

    Thanks dude, i could not use sound with xvid cap, has not been compiled in the latest binary is the message i get. Does your Xvidcap package support sound? if not what application did you use to overlay your audio?

  • @adam9575 No, it doesn't support audio recording, for my video I used the YouTUBE AudioSwap feature, you should give it a try, maybe you'll find a great song for your next video!

  • @TheCellarGuardian

    Could you tell me how you themed your man pages etc, do you have a config file i could have?

    thanks.

  • @adam9575 Sure, for the prompt and the man pages open the page with all the comments on my video and search for ".bashrc", it's a sequence of 4 comments written 5 months ago, or take a look here (URL follows) wiki archlinux org / index php / General_Recommendations # Man_pages

  • Oh not much, well, you should know how to use a shell and its basic commands, how to write and read a configuration file, and some basic facts on the system architecture, but don't worry, the Arch Linux wiki is superb! Arch Linux shouldn't be your first Linux distribution, because, anyway, you need a certain experience, but, due to its KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) design, you'll be able to use it without much troubles... : )

  • @TheCellarGuardian Bro thanks for all the advice I appreciate it..I think I'm gonna do this Arch Linux project..How long did it take to completely set everything up?

  • @Dafob52 Well, the first time it took me something like 3-4 hours to set up the system and make it work with my hardware (I had some wi-fi issue), then the customization is a long term process and it could take some days, but the important part is already done... Anyway, If you don't find hardware compatibility problems, the basic installation process will be a matter of one or two hours, not more!

  • @Dafob52 And with basic installation I mean make the system run properly with your hardware, write the most important configuration files and setting up the main programs (X server, Window Manager....)

  • @TheCellarGuardian

    Sweet, How much of an expert in Linux do you need to be in order to setup this software?

  • Sweet, how much experience do you think you need in order to setup archlinux properly?

  • But do you think I could get your exact setup on mine? I'm impressed by the way you've made your computer, you did a pretty great job..

  • @Dafob52 Absolutely, the most resource-draining thing in my setup is the transparency effect with xcompmgr, in the WORST case you could have to disable some unnecessary effect like transparency or shadows. Everything else is light as a cloud, and remeber, Linux is, nowadays, the only way to bring new life to your old computers, much faster than before!

  • @TheCellarGuardian So do you thnk a 1.4 Ghz Intel Pentium M, with 512 MB of Ram, and 35 GB of HD could handle your system?

  • @Dafob52 Absolutely. Consider that, in my little eeepc, I have the same distro installed and the RAM usage, when the system is completely started, is ONLY 32 Mb!!!!!!!! Arch Linux + OpenBOX is a KILLER combo, and if you compile your kernel reducing it at the minimum, plus the compilation of the major programs with optimized flags, the performance would be unbelievable. Believe me, Arch Linux (or any other leightweight and power-user oriented distro as well) will bring NEW LIFE to your pc!!!

  • Hey, what are your system specs?

  • @Dafob52 Hi! Not brilliant, it's a 1.7 Ghz Intel Dual-Core, 2 Gigabytes of RAM, 120 Gigabytes of HD, nothing special!

  • God use archlinux for world creation. Archlinux FTW!

  • @blackfifo Definitely! Survey: in what language is our Universe written? I think Smalltalk...

  • Your video was really cool, I think that this is how I want my PC to be like. Frame rate looks a bit low, it is a video recording/reproducing issue or a PC issue?

    Congratulations!

  • @metasjodiendo Thank you so much! Concerning the low frame rate, it's due to the software I used to record my desktop, XVidCap, and the high quality (it was recorded at a full 1280x800 resolution). Plus, my pc is quite old, so the result is not so smooth as I wished, but, I think, enjoiable anyway! Thank you very much, I'm glad to have read your comment!

  • simply amasing !!

  • @maximefcom Thank you!

  • sick setup but the music sounds like its straight from the Sims.

  • Nice video, nice setup and nice reference to Donnie Darko.

  • @juliansb35 Thank you so much! Anyway, the reference in my user and host name isn't to Donnie Darko (a great film I love), but to a famous J.R.R. Tolkien quote (not E. A. Poe, as it is said in Donnie Darko). : )

  • Around 0:49 you right-click the desktop while the openbox menu is open and it opens a new menu. In my [default behavior] setup, if I right-click the desktop while a menu is open it just closes the menu; it doesn't bring up a new menu. How did you change that behavior?

  • @altay8 I didn't change the default behaviour, that effect has been caused by the combination of two really fast right clicks and the inconstant sampling time of xvidcap (the program I used to record my desktop), look at the clock! : D Anyway, it would be interesting, mainly because it makes your interaction faster and free from those "desktop mechanics"! Let me know if you find a way to obtain this! : D

  • seems to be a stable and essential DE... i wanna try it.

    but... is it possible to install it under ubuntu lucid lynx and start it from the login screen?

  • @mentok11 Openbox is a WM (Window Manager), not a complete Desktop Environment, every feature you see on this video is a personal choice, you are completely free to build up your own environment... Anyway, you can install Openbox with every Linux distribution, in particular, if you use Ubuntu, once Openbox is installed you should find something like "Gnome+Openbox" in your GDM menu to choice the session type, it will start a regular Gnome session using Openbox as WM! Let me know my friend!

  • I really like your desktop TheCellarGuardian. It looks awesome and I think I might actually give Arch Linux a try thanks to our video. The last time I wanted to install it I couldn't be bothered enough. I don't want a "1337" or "h4axor" desktop, I want something intuitive-to-use and sophisticated but not idiotproof and I think that your desktop configuration is really one of the ones I have liked most so far. Good job!

  • @Rimdeker I'm so glad, thank you!

  • Amazing set up

  • Pretty cool desktop, gave me a couple of ideas to improve my archbox now :P. Also changed my image viewer to ristretto, I was looking for something like that, thanks for sharing.

  • Ah it's cool man. Is that tint2?

  • @jackrok Thank you! No, it's bmpanel, a lightweight and hightly customizable panel.

  • Gotta know the song you used?

  • @jackrok I took it from the Youtube collection (some songs you can use for your videos when you upload them), I'm sorry but I really cannot remember the name...

  • What video card do you use? ATI NVIDIA or Intel? How is Arch's Nvidia compatibility if you know

  • @Mandragara My video card is an Nvidia GeForce Go 7300. If you have an Nvidia card, you won't have troubles, the open-source driver nv works very well and the official drivers are superb, so it won't be difficult to setup you video card, not only with Arch but with every Linux distribution : D