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  • The article mentioned in this video is fake. Taking advantage of the fact that people cannot read Mandarin.

  • wow this history is really sad. if this is the truth about it I say down with black flag wc.

  • people in brazil has no idea of black flag wc is just a lie. they don't speak english so meng could fool them easily. but sergio has been informed by the public, he should be able to see lin's contridictions: in 1994 lin met his first wc sifu & got defeated. then became a 6 generation student under ip man wc.no such a thing as black flag wc, just black flag bandit pun jiao & lohan kf sam chien, thats not wc. i wish sergio smells the coffee & stay away from that fake museum guy for his own sake!

  • this vid is all hearsay also, both sides of this argument need to present a clear history with artifacts and lineage so we can ultimatley decide objectively what is up with this.

  • Lin said that 5 flag wing chun came from Shaolin temple but five flag wing chun NEVER existed. Yip Man never said there was a five flag wing chun. YIp Man students from around the world never said there was five flag wing chun. Lin is the only one from YIp Man lineage to say this. Lin is from Victor Leow's school. Lin's kung fu is really mixed with Victor's Wing Chun and Pun Jiao's Lo Han Kung Fu.

    What is five flag wing chun?

  • FIRST LODGE (Fukien and Kansu province), known as ‘GREEN LOTUS HALL OF PHOENIX DISTRICT’ Its regiments carried a BLACK FLAG bearing the character PIU ‘Glorious’.

    SECOND (Kwantung and Kwangsi).It bore a red flag with the character ‘SAU’ – ‘AGES or LONGEVITY’.

    THIRD (Yunnan and Szechuan) It bore a vermillion flag with the character HOP- ‘UNITED’.

    FOURTH (Hunan and Hupei) It bore a White flag.

    FIFTH (Chekiang/Kiangsi/Honan) It bore a green flag

  • black flag wing chun又是一個招搖撞騙的神話. Shaolin Temple 從未有個黑旗wing chun,这黑旗帮faggot should stop their scam now.Lin 你­心知肚明做过什么Shaolin 5 flag wing chun騙局,等天收你個黑旗汉奸SOB.吊你老母

  • don't try to tell people the fuel between sergio and wt camp isn't over. sergio has had a bad experience with hoffman too...this lin's bogus black flag story has many holes. ex, where did lin get his wc from? from his old website clearly pointed to victor leow/chung che man. if lin wants to change his story again, do u really think people that stupid will listen to him.

  • The comments are quite straight forward in attacking this system. It doesn’t read as if he’s presenting information objectively with the good intent of educating the public. The intent is very clearly directed towards destroying the public image of HKB. He even took the effort to create a video clip like the beginning of the Star Wars movies. If this coward is a Sifu or anyone that belongs in a real KF family, students of this need to have a wake up call. The true face is reviewed.

  • Kenneth Lin studied Vikoga Wing Chun and mixed it with LoHan from black flag bandits. Lin made up the black flag wing chun story - BLACK FLAG WING CHUN IS FAKE!

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  • How stupid this guilo Sergio can be? He has been fooled by two biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu which has nothing to do WING CHUN. Because this black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is a LO-Han guy. From vikoga website, Kenneth Lin got his Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, what does that has to do with this BOGUS five flag story from shaolin....

  • How stupid this guilo Sergio can be? He has been fooled by two biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu which has nothing to do WING CHUN. Because this black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is a LO-Han guy. From vikoga website, Kenneth Lin got his Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, what does that has to do with this BOGUS five flag story from shaolin...

  • looking at the black flag website of 2005. it clearly stated that black flag gang leader tio tik-kwie was a lo-han kung fu guy (not a wc man). kenneth lin's wc came from ip man wc & sum nung wc. certainly the name of black flag wc was made up by kenneth lin, because lin mixed up ip man/sum nung wc & tio tik-kwie's lo-han kf together and called it black flag wc. it's not a shaolin wc as benny meng says. sergio, now you know the truth of black flag wc, you have been fooled by lin & meng.

  • sorry. there's another person between victor leow & kenneth lin

    correction: from vikoga wc website, victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.

    ex: ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.

    i don't know how dave peterson would react to this fact that the black flag wc grandmaster is actual his great grand student.

  • go to vt4um -- other (not ip man lineage) -- help need a translation

    you'll find some links about this black flag scam & the fake museum

    here's what i've found about victor leow, kenneth lin learned wc from him...

    ip man->chu shong tin->others->victor leow->kenneth lin

    ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->kenneth lin

    yks->sum nung->yuan zhu tung->victor leow->kenneth lin

    "now this made up black flag wing chun..."

    kenneth lin-> benny meng

    kenneth lin ->sergio

  • Everyone, please enter the following into the youtube search box:

    "black flag wing chun propoganda"

    The opposition to the black flag liars is growing! 

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  • BLACK FLAG WING CHUN FOREVER!!!!!!!

  • EVERYONE LISTEN - enter "black flag wing chun show your true colors" into the search box at the top of the page and enjoy.

    MegaMaurik - do not be a pale reflection of others' words. Research the information behind the scenes. You will find that Sergio does not care about real research, only money and fame. He and you both do not understand that Sergio's fate has already been sealed by the dark duet of Meng and Lin. He has been used but ultimately, has destroyed himself.

  • 吊你黑旗汉奸,吊你老母

    No Black Flag or 5 Flag societies ever exist in any Shaolin history, or in all Hung Mun history, but there is record of Black Flag/5 Flags record exist as only Bandits and Traitors in the Chinese History. So, these two Black Flag Faggots should stop their marketing scam.

    Lin 透過各種掩人耳目的炒作,誇大Black Flag Bandits 以此在社會上嘩眾取寵,下一個粉墨登場的Meng又是一個以Sh­aolin name 招搖撞騙。這次 thanks to Mr.赵元的 article 戳穿了黑旗汉奸掩人耳目的Shaolin Black Flag 神話.

  • @kiyou5208 - thank you for comment. Lin, hear me. Meng, pay attention. You are not going to get away with this. You have stolen information and are passing it off as Black Flag, while at the same time making up black flag history form nothing. Stop now while you can. This is serious. You will not get away with this. And do not think that allowing Sergio to join the VTM is going to distract anyone. YOU WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS - EVER.

  • lin said 'there're 5 flags wc in shaolin temple." which i knew at once that's a big lie when i frist heard lin's phony lines on 5 flags! and from some kf forum i just found out red flag story was made up by lin and meng themselve in order to support lin's black flag/5 flag wc marketing scam. lin and meng wanted to sell their shaolin horse shit, now the big lie is out to public, still no sights of green, yellow and white flag wc. why? becauce lin's story ain't real.

  • @jj2714hk - thank you for comment. Glad to hear the word is spreading. Have they no sense - Lin and Meng? Did they think we would allow this? Have they no honour - do they think nothing of our country's pain? Have they no self-respect - that they destroy their own families' name for future generations with their deceit? Lin and Meng - names that future generations will speak lowly of. Oh the fools, they have destroyed themselves.

  • 赵元,1.3 billions Chinese stand by you!

    认贼作父的美国华人混蛋Kenneth Lin , Benny Meng 你個黑旗汉奸契弟是中國人的耻辱.Screw both of you black flag basters, you could tell lies to the white people in America, but you have no where to hide in front of Chinese people.

  • @kiyou5208 - thank you for joining us in the fight against the lies of Lin and Meng. Their names are now known for fraud, their reputation finally destroyed. Yes, the future generations will teach how Meng and Lin were exposed as liars, cheats, demons. A country's broken heart means nothing to them - the worst example of cowardice I have ever seen in my life has been born from the hearts of Meng and Lin.

  • kenneth lin has been changed his black flag history many times, most people can tell easily benny meng just wants to use lin at the moment. obviously meng's personal ambition is focused on selling meng's vtm shaolin wing chun videos. time will tell if meng is going to double-crossd lin like he did it moy yat. moy had sent two big guys going after meng, demanded the chops back from vtm. meng has always been a bs artist, including moy yat, everyone gave him cold shoulder.

  • kenneth lin is an opportunist, benny meng is a sly old fox, they both could swallow sergio alive. i talked to the folks who knew about sergio, they all said sergio was a very gullible person and he's just a very low level instructor in the wt orginazation.

  • @jj2714hk "The last word went to Sifu Lin... emphasizing on how HKB is its own unique identity, taking time to point out the importance of maintaining the HKB identity by not classifying it as something which it is not, and subsequently clarifying that HKB Wing Chun is not the same as Shaolin Wing Chun, in which HKB Wing Chun should never be called Shaolin Wing Chun.HKB Wing Chun is HKB Wingchun" - Then why is Benny Meng promoting it as Shaolin Wing Chun?

  • This article really hits straight to the truth. In the official government documents of China, there's no "black flag" group in Fukien Province. There is no Black Flag group listed as a secret society at all (and *all* ancient secret societies have been documented) . The only time "black flag" is linked is 5 flagged bandit groups of Shandong province. This Lin guy's history is really a bad joke to any serious kungfu people.

  • @HoiSung1 - thank you for comment. Yes Lin, why do you do this nonsense? What is your plan? Who is controlling you? The Wing Chun world will know eventually - that moment comes at your expense however.

  • @jbsfan123 - It amazes me that people buy this load of BS. Every other Southern Kungfu links to the color RED if they were associated with Shaolin. Hung Ga, Mei Hua, Hung Fa, Choi Lei Fut not one society links to the color black as anything of importance. Also it's funny that Lin claims he only ever learned black flag when just a few years ago he claimed to know VIKOGA wing chun. Such a sad joke, how dumb is Sergio Iadarola to believe it????

  • @HoiSung1 - thank you for insight once again. About this Lin, does he not recognize his past has left a trail, just as slime is left behind by similar creatures who wish not to expose themselves to the light of day? Lin must realise he is already exposed. And Sergio, O Sergio, you will be the ultimate victim. Sergio, you are being lied to!!!!!

  • @HoiSung1 Sifu Sergio believes what he experiences. He shares the experience with his students. It is thoroughly convincing. Yours are just words.

  • @MegaMaurik : You are just like the child of a serial killer who refuses to believe the parent is a criminal!

  • @darkside1999

    bandits, secret societies affect the chinese communists to create, develop anti-japanese base areas of the two major social problems. anti-japanese war & anti-bandits. black flags the name of bandits with hearts of black: for many chinese patriots who were killed by japs and black flag bandits. sergio once claimed that chi sin weng chun & ip man wing chun were the same, now he wants to sell this black flag 'goons' bs wing chun to his students. sergio sucks big time!

  • In response to Mr Zhua’s letter: All secret societies have been documented by the Chinese government, there is NO RECORD OF BLACK FLAG SOCIETY. Chinese history shows the Qing dynasty army was made up of 8 flags.

  • There was ONLY ONE TIME in Chinese history there was 5 dam flags and that was ONLY in Shangdong Province. There NEVER WAS a 5 flag SECRET society. In FUKIEN, there are NO DOCUMENT of 5 flag secret society, there is NO SUCH BLACK FLAG IN FUKIEN. Zhao Yuan is right, black flag is a BANDIT SOCIETY and NEVER WAS anti-Manchurian.

  • The only 5 flag secret society comes from LIN KENNETH out of USA VIRGINIA. LIN KENNETH is VERY TRICKY because HIS BLACK FLAG KEEPS CHANGING and WILL CHANGE TONE TO BLACK BANDANA. BLACK BANDANA IS A JOKE, it DOES NOT EXIST. Where to run Lin?

  • @ProfChan48hk - ah, thank you for your input. Let us join forces to shine light on the darkness of this nightmare - BLACK FLAG WING CHUN IS A SCAM!!!

  • From the web site it does NOT look like authentic wing chun but mixtures of pray mantis and MALAYSIA VIKOGA WING CHUN, past run. LIN does NOT KNOW CHINESE HISTORY BUT MARKETING to the west, run with money. How dare he tries to SELL THIS LIE. This is PURE MARKETING and SERGIO in HK wants to SELL THIS BS without understanding Chinese history, run with SERGIO.

  • English.news.cn (PART 2) AUTHOR -ZHAO YUAN 讀者 赵元

    关於咏春拳的一些看法--驳居心叵测之徒 中国武术在国外很受欢迎,但是有一些居心不良的骗子在国外竟敢篡­改历史,称这帮五旗会土匪为反清复明的地下 组织,实在是最大的谎言。黑旗会的土匪如其名---心很黑:替日­本鬼子杀害无数中国同胞。现在,我竟在网上看到这样一位认贼作父­的美国华人混蛋在胡言乱语,其 所作所为实在是令每个中国人忍无可忍,这与日本人否认南京大屠杀­有何分别?是对我中国人的最大侮辱。这是咱 们中国人的无知,还是恶梦不散?我们中国人不能麻木了,站起来戳­穿汉奸嘴脸,捍卫武林尊严!

    讀者 赵元

  • English.news.cn (PART 1) AUTHOR -ZHAO YUAN 讀者 赵元

    关於咏春拳的一些看法--驳居心叵测之徒 (中国新闻快讯) 近日电影叶问与咏春拳的放映令人们对中国文化再起热潮,各种评论­纷至,有位山东籍的 赵元先生,报社投稿,发表了一篇令人深思的文章。 赵先生陈述如下:“在看完电影《叶问》后,其儿子在美国网路上看­到一位自称教授咏春拳的美国华人,竟 胡言乱语称黑旗会与少林寺咏春拳有关。这实在是对中国历史和武林­野史不认识,不了解或别有用心 的鼠辈。 我原籍山东,我祖父母一家全死在黑旗会土匪之乱。当年日本侵略我­东三省,,五旗会是山东一带的响马贼 ,五旗会中,尤以黑旗会最令人发指,盖因该会实为汉奸,帮日本人­杀害中国民众与军人,这在中国近代史上是有 案可稽的。

  • no doubt black flag wing chun is the biggest lie. kenneth lin is the head of black flag gang. sergio got no brain and dig his head into such mass.

  • A clue - the article mentions the ulterior motives of a Chinese American...investigate who that may be.

  • @jbsfan123 一位认贼作父的美国华人混蛋在胡言乱语 i think mr. zhao yuan 赵元 is talking about the chinese american black flag kenneth lin from Virginia or benny meng from Ohio.

  • @jj2714hk - thank you for your astute observation. Mr Lin, Mr Meng, time is running out. Your black flag scam will soon implode, and the clock will tick until finally all of you vanish, remembered only for your actions. Perhaps it is fitting that you have chosen to refer to yoursleves as bandits...

  • To All:

    Read the article

    Research who is involved behind the scenes

    Research their behaviours with the Wing Chun Community as a whole

    Then will you understand the article

  • @TEthePres2006

    And I have not espoused any beliefs at all, I called into question the logic, without any definitive statements. All I did was provide a counter-balancing way to look at it. I So, that comment was unnecessarily spiteful. It still stands that EXPERIENTIAL knowledge is the only true knowledge. And, this is speculation. So either provide proof of scandal, or else, it's just more unnecessary division in the Martial Arts community.

  • @TEthePres2006 - re-read the article, examine black flag wing chun's recent history, examine the behaviour of those behind the scenes. Don't wait to be told - follow your own mantra of experiental knowledge - find out who is involved in the lineage. Find out what they have done and you will understand what they are doing, and then you will understand the article. Remember, if you meet the buddha, kill the buddha. Don't rely on your own images.

  • @jbsfan123

    Still apples and oranges. But, thanks for the exchanging. I do appreciate it.

  • @TEthePres2006 - the writer of the article knows the ulterior motive of those behind the scenes of black flag, as do I - they will be hounded for their actions no matter what. You are just like Sergio I feel - either you have no idea what is actually going on, or you are complicit in this scam. Either way it matters not, it will be exposed to all.

  • @darkside1999 - no need to apologise my firend. I hope that Sergio realises before soon that he is being tricked - and if you are indeed correct in regard to Sergio's disinterest in truth, then that will surely come back to haunt him when the blak flag house of cards comes tumbling down

  • thanks for posting this i was unaware of the black flags wing chun history. darkside is right saying this is important stuff & it is shocking that they are getting away literally with murder! any more info on this subject would be much appreciated. Also if any other branch of wing chun is tainted in the same way.

  • @chewmybackah - thank you for comment. Please do spread the word about this article.

  • @darkside1999 - thank you kindly for comment and please spread the word. The gentleman in the article is not I, but I am sure he appreciates the sentiment. As for Sergio - I hope people do not get distracted from the article, as I feel Sergio is being used as an expendable frontman by the dark planners lurking behind the scenes. It is my hope that the article will draw attention to those who have sold Sergio the lie, rather than Sergio himself. However, once again I thank you for your comment.

  • It has been said "History is written by the victors".

    In this case history is being Re-written by movies and poor teachers!

  • @mofotax - thank you for comment mofotax. As long as I am breathing, I will hound those who dare peddle this nonsense about our country's history. I believe those involved in this black flag scam have a mantra, although it is not one found in Buddhist texts that I am aware of. Their mantra is:

    "FABRICATE TO ACCUMULATE"

  • I’m not surprised you were blocked by that charlatan ‘sifu’ Re-Search-io Mofo-rola. He is one of the biggest liar and traitor in da Wing Chun world these days. Anyone can take a camcorder, going around interviewing people but that does not mean that he is a research scholar! It does not mean there is any shred of truth in the stuffs he pushes for his hidden agenda either! I wonder any one will do a search of this hypocrite’s education background? I bet he is a Italian High school dropout!

  • @mofotox - thank you very much for your comment and please spread the word. I don't know much about this Sergio or his history, however, I feel he has become the victim of an even more insidious character, one who lurks in the shadows, ever ready to mislead the Wing Chun community. Perhaps it is Sergio who has been misled this time...

  • @jbsfan123 : Oh, I’m sure Re-search-io doesn’t care what’z wrong or what’z right. All he cares is to push his hidden agenda for his personal gain. Black Flag, Red Flag or what ever, they’re all bogus, using Wing Chun to gain personally.

  • @mofotox easy talking for you hiding behind a nickname. Sifu Sergio is the most dedicated SEARCHER for the roots of Wing Chun. He will be credited for the sincerity of his research and his effort to spread the art. Why don't you reveal yourself, speak out in the open, don't be so shy!

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