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  • My IPhone is about 15 seconds faster than this and it's a 3GS!

  • Google started late :P

  • @settraunak and yet, iPhone couldn't keep up.

  • i dont give a fuck if the nexus is better tan the iphone or iphone's better than nexus jst enjoy the time with your godamn phone!!!!!!!!!

  • Surely it depends on how many apps, music, photos etc. you have on the phones though too?

  • wow, I wasn't expecting the times to be that similar.

    Nexus definitely looks nicer :P

  • Nexus one has OLED screen which is very practical, and the iphone is too heavy . Poor iPhone has no flash plugin for browsing and no flash for the camera, Nexus one clearly boots faster, Has a better processor, removable battery, 720p HD video > than iPod. Be careful make sure you hold your iphone properly or else you might loose reception. Android phones win.

    Sorry but why not pay a little less to get a better phone?

  • wow! the google crap is so cool! it taked almost 4years to mach up iphone! way to go!

    iphone all the way!

  • @oleg1981 Lol oleg I wonder how long it TOOK for you to get your grammar right.

  • @oleg1981 lmao. dud. remember the specs of the n82? it pwns iphone back then...and i mean...wayyyyyyyyy back then. iPhone: OMG I GOT 5MP CAMERA WITH FLASH. N82: I got that years ago, with Xenon flash. iPhone: omg i got vid. call! N82: My cousins had em' years ago.

  • Something about the Nexus One Logo reminds me of the Windows Logo. Rotate it clockwise 90 degrees and look at the colors.

  • Honestly. From that angle doesn't the 3gs look crap in comparison?

    :D

  • How are we sure it's a 3GS? 3G's take longer than the video hahaha. It's a 3GS, but sir, you are wrong about jailbreaking. If you download anything other than Cydia, it'll slow down the boot up. Mine took 21 seconds to boot. Nexus, well mines not here at the moment hahah I'll post a video for more proof of boot time

  • wow nearly same time

  • i think there is a role play goin on here 8-l

  • tie???

  • this is fucking boring, woo hoo an x and a half eaten caterpillar apple.

  • @iamenjoi did u call me a caterpillar?

  • @KingNegativeCreep no you are the apple part :D

  • @iamenjoi oucchh xD

  • @iamenjoi wait who's the caterpillar?!

  • @KingNegativeCreep I am le cat er pill er!

  • @iamenjoi aah u bit my butt!

  • @KingNegativeCreep Om nom nommies!!!!!!!!!

  • @iamenjoi i never even had a chance to appreciate my butt X.X

  • @KingNegativeCreep My tummy is appreciating it hahahaha

  • @iamenjoi you're welcome haha

  • nice

    

  • I don't understand why people bother comparing start up times. I do not buy my computers/cell based on 'how fast it can turn on'. I'd rather get something good and cheap that has a longer start up time.

  • the nexus honestly doesnt need that silly animation in the beginning, that prolly slowed the thing down by a good 5 seconds, not to mention the thing is ugly and slow anyway. but DAM, look at how much nicer the contrast is on the nexus than the iphone! looking at that, i could care less about the boot speed, its not like im turning the phone on and off every time i receive a message.

    nice vid!

  • im sure the new iPhone is gonna be awesome

  • not that big a difference. I mean it looked like the iphone was actually turned on a moment or two before but even still that only gives the Nexus like 2 seconds advantage. I would have expected more considering the 1ghz processor.

    Anyway my feelings are still the same, down with megalomaniacal apple and up with open source "dont be evil" Google!!! I hope they make phones, OSs, tablets, laptops, etc and kick apples greed and narcissistic vanity in the balls and the teeth.

  • crapple.

  • for everyone who thinks the nexus one is better than the iphone.... your wrong... you obviously never used a jailbroken iphone and your clueless to what the iphone can really do

    and btw the way boot time on the 3gs can be decreased up to 20 seconds by removing lauchdeamons that apple that implemented in iphone

  • @xN3x Wtf? the iPhone really can do? I don't care, you cant expect people to go and jailbreak, which violates their warranty. It's google nexus one versus an apple iPhone 3gs with apple jailware.

  • @xN3x umm ive used one. first of all iphones os is boring. and i hate the ap store everything costs money. android can actually run gameboy emulators its just better over all. and who gives a shit about boot time i rather have a phone that takes 5 mins thats the shit then phone that boots in 20 seconds

  • fake and gay my 3gs booted like 15 seconds faster then the 3gs in vid

  • @Run3scaped i mean 3g in vid ofcourse > fake

  • @Run3scaped yeah mine too, this is Fckn fake

  • @CrazyHyperJester the same as the Nexus i believe.

  • The Android splash screen and start-up sound is so awesome.. the iPhone just has the plain Apple logo and boots up to the plain-ass wallpaper (the only damn thing we can customize on it)!

  • @css1323 Don't worry. iPhone OS 4.0 will be here to comfort us soon, with "feature that should've been there since the first iPhone" home screen wallpapers.

  • I'm with the phone with Android Market ...... Robot phones rule ...

  • damn the nexus is fast i wonder is it faster than the acer android phone.

  • Both took longer than I thought they would to be honest :/

  • @Hgangsta5679 Weird. 19k views and almost 200 comments. Looks like people care.

  • What's funny is that my iPhone 3GS smoked both of those phones. My 3GS took 16 seconds to boot up, I don't think that was a 3GS, more like a 3G and it still booted up just as fast as the nexus one lol.that's to be expected though, I mean android is just a bulkier OS, iPhone OS is very slim.

  • @Hgangsta5679 most of the people do care if it is fast so idk what u r talking about. And by the way, the google boot screen look cooler then apples.

    P.S.

    i have an apple device and a google device so i am NOT bias :)

  • @clcpp4 if people do care about what starts faster, than my question is why the f do you want to know that XD.

  • @Hgangsta5679 i would want to know that because it will tell you what phone has a better CPU and see if the software is optimize for the phone. What do u care about in a phone. i care about the hardware and the software, idk if you care about all that.

  • Its not fair compromising iphone and nexus one with each other since it was quite awhile since iphone 3gs was released.

  • Notice how it's called the iphone 3G.

    They actually had to point out IN THE NAME OF THE PHONE that it uses 3G because when the FIRST iphone came out every dumpy, crappy OS smartphone on the market used 3G.

    The iPhone *****3G***** SHOULD be on par with the N1, but Apple just got lazy and reliant on the fanboy base, and stopped innovating. The next iphone, as I stated in my first post, will be getting it's inspiration from the N1 and Android. Why pay a premium for Apple products anymore?

  • @aallppiinnee lol....all of the apple fan-boy will be like cool and the Google fan-boy will be like WTF.....they took our stuffs.

  • ok yall keep talking about the apps

    android did come out after apple sooo.

    im not understanding why yall are constantly attacking the apps .maybe its because u cant attck anything else on an android phone

  • how funny will it be when a new version of the iphone comes out with all the features they could have added a long time ago that the Nexus One already has

    Steve Jobs will get up on stage acting like he invented it, and the Apply fanboy dolts will oooooh and aaaaah because they've been clueless the whole time.

  • @aallppiinnee true true XDD

  • @aallppiinnee

    Lol

    Apple fan boys will ohhhhh allll alright but not because they were clueless, but because these so called missing features were the only reasons people bought the rest of whatever smart phones we have in the market.

  • @aallppiinnee u just saw the future XD

  • @aallppiinnee This poor guy predicted correctly (iPhone 4).

    Features include... video chat, 720p videos and... a new design! YAY!

  • @aallppiinnee that was what he did... they actually said they were first with touch to focus... now come on. my soney camera from 2000 has that....

  • @aallppiinnee

    Oh, look, a noise cancelling microphone!

    Surely apple invented that!

  • @Riboshom Sorry, but sadly NO!. Apple doesn't make hardware

  • @chrischoy9

    If you mean that they buy the parts from other manufacturers (like their "amazing" A5 CPU from Samsung) well no, they effectively don't. But they still do all the design, get to pick what they'd like to put in or not and so on.

    This means that everything on the phone is there on purpose ad Apple wanted it to be and this "wonderful innovation" is there BECAUSE they wanted it.

    But when you have to explain the joke, it ain't funny anymore, is it?

  • @Riboshom Sorry, Samsung INVENTED noise cancelling microphone, sorryy but apple doesn't inspire us who has brains to know he LIED!

  • the boot time isnt even a second behind so what does that matter? i own both and they both are good. the iphone feels like it is better built while the nexus feels very fragile, but the nexus has some different features that i like that i wish i could have on the iphone. they are two different companies =. what do you people expect? them to be the same? each company has different resources. an its just a phone get over it.

  • Yup. Let me break up the argument.

    Both the Droid and the Nexus One are better than the iPhone 3GS. That's final. Done?

  • nope. unless there is a free tethering solution to android than neither are better than a JAILBROKEN iphone. proove me wrong?

  • I tether on my Droid every day. Rooting your Droid, much like jailbreaking an iPod, allows you to overclock, tether, and etc.

  • @demon69120 is the tethering free or do you pay a monthly fee?

  • No, you just download it and it's free.

  • nice. is it wireless tethering or does it require usb?

  • I don't even know what usb tethering is, so I assume it's wireless?

  • @demon69120 usb tehtring as in requiring you to plug your phone into your computer in order to tether

  • @kbudi92

    I'll prove you wrong, since your talking about a hacked or Jailbroken iPhone, it's not fair, so what about a ROOTED Droid or Nexus vs. a Jailbroken iPhone, more customization than the iPhone...

  • touche dude. im not a dumb ass apple fan boy i know the iphone isn't king of the hill right now. i hope that'll change in the next few months

  • I'm all for Android, I own a Droid, but what does the boot time matter?

  • @Zbreter

    shows which processor is faster. It also shows that it is significantly faster on the nexus 1 as it has a lot more to load up at start up while the iphone loads up nothing as it doesn't multi task.

  • @ethicks00 But does a boot up have to prove this? Just look at the numbers 1Ghz compared to 550Mhz. Nexus FTW

  • Pie tastes awesome.

  • Meh, iPhone isn't for me. I have an iPod Touch let me say it's great, but an Android Phone has it's strengths and weaknesses too. I have a droid, but now I wish I had waited 2 weeks for the Nexus on Verizon.

  • Iphone still the best!

  • lol the iphone looks like a toy compered to the nexus

  • the Nexus One's AMOLED screen makes the iPhone's look like a piece of shit haha

  • you could tell at the very end that the signs at the top were still moving and the iphone was done so haaaaaa

  • or you could have an htc hero which takes like 5 min. to load

  • That's a close one!

  • so close!

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  • wtf are you talking about

  • Correct your grammar first then we might care :D

  • iphone 3g and 3gs are 2 different models... its not miss spelling the name of a phone lol

  • People arnt misspelling anything. The 3GS is a model. The iPhone has 3 models out

    iPhone (Original)

    iPhone 3G

    iPhone 3GS

    How hard is it to lookup something before correcting people

  • SUCK my balls

  • Oh god your so intelligent. Thats the best comment to my posts i have ever seen. Completely original.

  • i am glad you like it have a nice day!

  • both SUCK took like a min to boot WTF

  • thats why its a smart phone...

  • Lol Iphone's boot is all boring. Plus may I add that Nexus One's OLED screen is really' nice. Black is black, but on the Iphone, black is like grey or something lol.

  • nexus one actually has an AMOLED screen not OLED. just sayin

  • Active or not, it's still an OLED screen. just sayin

  • AMOLED screens are nice

  • Why do I care how they take to load up as long as they work and stay on I worried about service

  • very close! I also have both of these phones

  • thats a 3g not 3gs !!

    3gs is heeellla faster than that !

  • Arrrr The Nexus One Doesnt Have That Little Cool Android Robot Waving At The Start Lol xD

  • if enough people say the same as you, maybe google will add it to a future update. Come on google, give us the robot!!!

  • reason to choose nexus

    open source

  • wow same time

  • my dear iphone!

  • i agree with gamefreak5241

  • that was pretty much even cause the iphone had service right away but the nexus did not.

  • different phones different ppl, simply because of the iphone the nexus one exist, or any other one out trying to call themselves the iphone killer. even the so called sidekick(flop). Iphone competn' just bearly cacthing up. All this just means that apple is going to keep ruling the cell phone market just with their app store alone.

  • IPHONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • lol, stop crying over a 2 seconds time difference over the boot time.. it's 2 different system and boot time alone cannot determine what is better... but look at the apps on apple apps store.. they are much prettier and functional then those of android.. i m not saying iphone is better, but right now, iphone + iphone apps seems to be more functional to me for my daily use...

  • well N1 has different uses and iphone has different uses....in the end it boils down to what u actually want xD

  • blah blah blah yada yada yada. check out that OLED in work! notice how much deeper the black is on the nexus. I tell you guys, i'm a iphone 3g owner and i might be making the switch to the N1 soon.

  • @foshobr0 lol i dont think the debate between iPhone and Android should even exist! iPhone technology is almost THREE YEARS OLD! So of course the Android may have better hardware specifications right now, cause it took them this long to come out with something. People have to realize that even three year old iphone sits at the top of the competition block right now with all these "new" cellphones coming out! In my opinion, it seems pretty weak, especiallysince Androids only got multi-touch NOW

  • Did it ever occur to you that at the time the iPhone was three years ahead of everything else? If you think that there should be no competition between these, you are a fool. They both have multitouch, an app store, web browser, camera . Really, no competition? Dumbass

  • uhm dude the iphone 3gs is like 6months old, not 3 years!

  • clearly apple needs to keep you as a customer, because if you went and actually got an android phone, you'd forget about the iFashionAccessory altogether.

  • fuck all difference.... next!

    Im more of an android man as its more open to letting you do what you want, regardless of getting root access or whatever, piratebay a few apps, put em on SD card and simples....

  • yeah its pretty easy to get into android as well, but i swear dont assume it cant to as much as the iphone, name anything that a jailbroken iphone can do that a rooted android phone cant do.

    and thats not revolutionized, thats just a payoff so you wont switch every time one of those shitty bricks stops working correctly.

  • obviously you dont know what you can do with a rooted android phone...i have a g1 and i bet whatever u want that i can do a lot more things than a jailbroken iphone..i jailbroken my girlfriends ipod touch so i have an idea of what you can get from it

  • funny, when i included my iphone 3gs in the race to start up, it started up 20 seconds faster than your iphone "3gs". You might just have the 3g. My old 3g took a REALLY long time to start.

  • mine too ( just recovered booted in 10 less than the nexus one)

  • You are right this guy is using a 3G not 3Gs

  • southfacedwindows, are you jealous?

  • The Nexus one has a 1 Ghz Processor vs the iPhone's 660Mhz Processor, so obviously it should have a faster boot time depending on RAM speed and size of the OS (how much data it has to load into the RAM). Nexus lacks multi-touch, which I would like to see, possibly with a later update. And people, why is everyone so uptight because one boots faster than the other? There are more important things in this world than calling someone a dickwad because he like the iPhone. Personal prefs, seriously

  • @f35caleb Nexus does not lack multi-touch. The hardware supports it, problem is that Apple has registered in USA its multi-touch with iPhone, so Google can't release it in the country. There are web browsers applications and some others that work with multi-touch.

    It is expected for the european version of Nexus One to have multi-touch enabled from the very start.

  • Yes, almost any touchscreen hardware today has the capability to do so, I was simply making the point that the US model lacks it (due to whatever reason). The motorola droid supports multi-touch, so I don't know why the Nexus one does not. But for whatever reason it may be, google and/or HTC decided not to include it... not yet anyways. Maybe so they can release it in a later model as an upgrade? Kind of like Apple did the iPhone.

  • every android phone does, its a patent issue with apple (who again thinks they invented something before others). the patent is only us legal, so thats why google cant have it included in default apps, but any 3rd party can. Dolphin browser for example lets you pinch zoom on any android phone without root or any hacking needed.

  • its really dependent on the os its loading too. even a 100mhz phone would beat these two if it were just loading dos or somthing weak like symbian..

    and please people stop complaining about what you dont know for a fact... ALL ANDROID PHONES HAVE MULTITOUCH

    just download dolphin browser on any android phone for proof of this.

  • It's like comparing Win XP with Mac OS X Snow Leopard ! Iphone obviously is slow cause it was launched one year ago, but even with that, it makes Nexus One shiver on performance... hardware isn't everything, and Android still needs more work.

  • how about this, iphone is on its 3generation and nexus one is at its first and it already beat it.

  • the same

  • this vexx506 guy needs to get a life. let him talk all he wants. he is a complete dumb ass by saying iPhone doesn't have an OS. he doesn't know what he's talking about. i think he loves the nexus so much is because his parents wont switch carriers for him to get an iPhone. lol! lets see whose gonna keep talking when Apple releases its new phone i will personally pm you and laugh at how much of a moron you are. karma is a bitch.

  • *yawn* Heard this so many times. It's old. Here's what you don't understand. Even if the new Iphone is better, guess what? Android can simply have users tweak things here and there, and it's going to be ahead. Again. It's nice to have an open-source community instead of basically waitig for Apple to bring something new out, MONTHS later.

    Must suck for Iphone fanboys, being Steve Job's bitch. And don't even bring up that jailbreak bullshit..

  • Steve Job's bitch? what about you being Google's bitch. I don't give a shit about open-source, i'm not a developer and neither are you so why do you care and bring that in an argument? i like quality products (Apple products) not shit products that doesn't really stand out besides a faster processor (only thing this phone has). I love my iPhone don't be mad you can't get one (i think that's the main reason). i don't like to jailbreak my phone, it's pointless, go fuck yourself dumb bitch.

  • Actually, I'm on AT&T and I voluntarily chose NOT to get an Iphone. Don't act like having an Iphone makes you so fucking special, dipshit. Everybody has one. Open-source is good because we can use THIRD PARTY apps. We don't have to be chained down via Itunes for apps. And guess what, even w/out a faster processor, Android is STILL better, dumbass.

    And you pretty much prove that you're taking it up the ass by Jobs when you make comments like "I like quality products (Apple products).

  • it's because Apple products are quality products, Sony also has quality products as well. the nexus on the other hand isn't. it still has that jitteriness to the touch screen, the sensor buttons don't work that well, (look at john4lakers review and others), and copies the iPhone's design (somewhat) the background really isn't that great it just attracts dumb asses like yourself that think those backgrounds make the phone better lol. have fun paying for 3G when you're getting a 2G connection.

  • Oh, wow. You got all that from reading reviews, Guess having your OWN opinion is too much on your part. Not surprising.. most Apple dickwads like you are the same, anyways. And guess what, fuckstick. Having customized backgrounds actually adds a sense of style to the phone. But what would you know about it? All you have is a grid of icons on a black bg. If you don't think N1 is a GOOD phone, you're an even bigger asshat than I thought.

    Dumbass, don't even bother

  • no i didn't get that from reviews, actually tested the phone out myself. i have a tmobile contract and a factory unlocked 3GS. i tested the phone and the reviews that people gave the phone were the similar to the experience when using the phone. the phone is crap stop crying about it. you're very mature for a 26 yr old. i love how the only thing you talk about is open development and hardware than software, no phone has a better UI than the iPhone sorry to piss on your fire, but it's the truth.

  • If you tested it, then you would know that it actually isn't even half as bad as you say it is. I admit the screen isn't as good as the Iphones ,but it's a damn good screen, nonetheless. Most of the reviews actually say the same thing, putz. And whatever the Iphone can do, N1 can do, too. And if you think no UI is better than your black screen of icons, you must really enjoy taking it up the ass by Jobs.

    Dumbass. Quit crying b/c your phone lost here.

  • better than iphone

  • @Ky772 android has no emotion. BGR wrote a great piece about it a week or so ago. it's equal with iPhone OS in terms of... well almost everything. Open Source is a great advantage, unless the closed source operating system has over 5 times the amount of apps available. i really do love android as much as the iPhone OS, but i think some of the UI elements need improvement. i agree about the nexus one being a better phone though. with twice the processor speed and ram, the hardware is unmatched.

  • no emotion, iphone is one of the only phones you cant show any emotion on, you cant even do walpapers without hacking....

  • since your a review boy faggot. phonedog clearly put nexus one as the winner and it beat the iphone 3gs and pre plus. and iphones UI is OUTDATED. everyone who knows tech knows that. You keep saying quality products lol, well you dont know quality. You just like brand names, pop and trends. I bet iphone is a fashion accessory to you. how is the UI on the iphone better when you cant even multitask if you know what that means. and you dont even get notifications. LOL you fail.

  • Like everybody(tech people) knows android UI shits on the iphone. Even the palm pre plus is better then the outdated iphone. can you put widgets on your homescreens? you cant do shit. its simple, so simple people like you like it.

  • you can unlock an iphone, i was offered one for 100 bucks and turned it down, its a pos and id be embarrassed to be caught with one.

    they could release one with a quad core, 2ghz processor and 8gb of ram, id still tell you to shove it and wouldn't want one,

    theyr'e crap, sorry you feel big and important because of a shiny brick. stop talking next year apple will __. nobody gives a shit. because it will still be made by crapple, and will just be a barely improved 3gs.

  • ahah all you can do is wait til apple launches its newer model. well if you know tech, it improves all the time and fast. and by the time 4g comes out it will be on top for I say 2 weeks. then android will launch an update, for free and the nexus one will shit on it again. and then htc and other phones will make better phones to use the andoid os. while all you can say is "so just wait til the iphone 5g comes out" AHHAHAH you lose

  • dude go fuck yourself. you still only have that shitty ass G1 phone. lol! if you were smart enough then you would know that HTC took mostly everything from Apple. Otherwise Apple wouldn't sue for infringement, dumb ass!

  • LOL dumb ass. thats all you got to say HAHAA. theyre everyone knows theyre dumb for sueing HTC. They are doing that cause they are scared. MY g1 > your phone. Dude I can buy an iphone if I want. and if you see my friend owns an iphone dumb ass. HAAH im no fanboy, I like both but I know right now Nexus One is better. ahha you fail with your no argument response. just take the loss and GTFO.

  • ok why are u talking about buying an iphone? shouldn't you have said nexus one? stop contradicting yourself and post something that's understandable dumb bitch. i fail? how? no one is even talking about the nexus one because no one gives a shit about it. everyone is waiting for the new iphone. your phone is a piece of clunky and bulky shit. who said i was a fanboy? just because i prefer the iphone doesn't make me a fanboy. u like the n1 so you're a google fanboy. see how retarded that sounds?

  • I said I can but an Iphone if I wanted, but did I buy one? no cause i dont want to. learn how to read! no one is talking about nexus one? are you retarded?!?! why would you watch this video then when its about it. lol. im no fanboy because i like both but i can admit the n1 is way better. if you prefer iphone thats fine, but your trashing the n1 and praising the iphone over it when it clearly is not. and that shows your a fanboy.

  • You can really see how AMAZING the contrast ratio of an oled screen is. The black actually looks black, not dark blue.

  • yeah but it was doing alot more in the background like loading an os, widgets, boot screen, moving walpapers, and folder/app placement,

    iphone was loading a cheap menu of icons, and taking a lil longer to do it too. ha.

  • To start off. I don't see why, there is even a discussion about this being a new "iPhone Killer" there wasn't an old "iPhone Killer." On a second note, I personally own an iPhone 3GS, and I absolutely love and adore my phone. This in not to say, I think the N1 is a piece of shit. I make no assumptions . There is no need to compare these 2 completely different phones. iPhone was the innovator of the Touchscreen Smartphone, and it's great that others have jumped on and kept up. So thumbs^ to all.

  • LG was actually the first company to show off a touch screen phone (Voyager). They actually filed a class action suit against Apple for it...IDK what ever transpired out of the lawsuit though.

  • thats because your a fanboy. the Nexus beats the iphone in every way, the only thing thats just opinion is which os you prefer, and as i like customizing more than the lock screen and the order of my icons, ill take android.

    and apple didnt invent touch screen phones.

  • i have Verizon and ATT, as far as signal and service they are both great, I live in the Washington DC Metro area. Verizon is more pricey. I pay 30.00 for att web service, verizon 35.00, texting 20.00 monthy for unlimited from att, verizon 25.00 unlimted everything from att, is 150.00. verizon unlimited everything is 175.00 a month. As i was told by customer service depends on your area for the best coverage,

  • i would say the same, because that little movie thing that the nexus done doesnt mean it was booted.

  • Im not saying that nexus is bad phone but its looks ugly :D

  • everyone seems to fail when comparing the iPhone to other phones. iTunes is 50% of what makes the iPhone the BEST cell phone out there.

  • Are you kidding me? Having to use Itunes to do anything on your phone is stupid as hell. Want an app? Gotta do it through Itunes. Wanna sync music? Has to be through Itunes. Since when did using a THIRD music software to do anything on your phone become better than simply dragging and dropping?

  • again my friend, everyone trys to copy iTunes. it's much easier to change my music on my iPhone then having to change that little disk and rearrange my music. I'm an Apple man and will always will be. We all like different things for different reason. Enjoy what you enjoy and have a nice evening.

  • no it isnt, you can plug in android phones too, then drag and drop, no itunes bullshit in between.