A zsidóság mindig hangsúlyozza, hogy őket nem azért választotta ki az I-ten, mert kiválóbbak lettek volna a többi népnél, sőt, azt is hangsúlyozza, hogy Izraelt gyakran csak saját nevéért menti meg az I-ten, hiszen ők méltatlanok lettek a szeretetre. Nem is véletlen, hogy I-ten mégis őket szereti. És idegen tőle az üres, semmit mondó és beképzelt magyarkodás. Ha van is a magyarságnak értéke csak az I-tennek köszönheti, nem magának, hiszen csak "por és hamu".
@katolikuskereszteny Tisztelettel, olyan nincs, nem is volt, hogy I-TEN... mindíg is IZ-TEN volt... mai magyarul ISTEN... Mint ahogy IZRAEL se volt, csak JUDEA... talán ne vonjuk kétségbe a Római Birodalom precizitását. A rómaiak nem véletlenül írták azt, hogy Provincia Judea (egyébként még Josephus Flauvius kortárs zsidó történetíró se használta ezt a megnevezést... nem véletlenül, mert maga a szó nem "ivrit" eredetű, és ivritül nem is jelent semmit...
@katolikuskereszteny ? Arról nem nyitok vitát, hogy melyik az a nép, amelyik üres, semmitmondó és piszkosul beképzelt., de biztos, hogy nem a magyar nép az. Ha maga "keresztény", akkor illene tudnia, hogy Isten egyik népet se helyezte a többi fölé, számára minden egyes ember egyenlő és mindegyik lélek fontos. Abban egyetértek Önnel, hogy a magyarság (és nem a gyüttment népség értendő ez alatt) értékét Istennek köszönheti, és nem magának... és ezt mindig is köszönte Istenének... ezt se tudja?
koszonet a feliratozasert!volna nehany otletem,hogy miket lehetne feliratozni(pap gabor osszes,kiss denes,szantai lajos,dr kiszely istvan stb,elnezest,hogy a tobbieket nem emlitettem,de akkor tobbszor is kimeritenem az 500 karaktert:-)),de ez bizonyara a feliratozo szemelyeben is folmerult.koszonet es hala meg egyszer!
At 1.44 she mentioned that The Chinese Xia dynasty was the first Hun dynasty????
crazy assumption!
According to Chinese chronicle,Yu was made the first king of Xia dynasty because of his ability to man the flooding to the benefit of the early Chinese agricultural settlments along the mid Yellow river basin; while the Huns were roaming in the dry grass land far north.
I can't imagine the nomadic Huns had the patience and passion to deal with the flooding Yellow river.
The Chinese recorded the Huns only at ~300BC during Qin and Han dynasty while the Xia dynasty was at ~3000 BC accordingly. Did the Huns existed then in the steppe?
The Huns were a coalition of nomadic Tribes . many of Them were The ancestors of modern day Eurasia, alans , Ogurs , Scyths , Sarmats , Mongols , Kaspians , and so many Turkic Tribes were Living together. The Name '' Ogur'' or '' Onogur'' was a Turkic word means ''On ok ( ten arrows ) ''. Ur-Ar-Er means '' Warrior , Noble''.
The Name '' Onogur'' or ''Hunogur '' Means '' Warriors Of Ten arrows Clan''
Read Something Before Writing Your West europen Bullshits Here !
The HUN is the name of my people ... HUNGAR means that the Army of the Huns / or People of the Huns... HUNGARIA / or HUNGARY means: Land of the Huns . This has nothing to do with the word "onugor"... The GAR use the word in the Hungarian language (even today) - meaning a great flood, and/or great mass.
During the Napoleonic wars , the Hungarian soldiers were still using scythian battle chants to build their courage . No other nation is known for this .
Then finely the Habsburgs extinguished it during their rule over Hungary
Huns got their way of life and culture from Scythians. It is entirely possible they mixed with each other. Look at the grave findings of Hun cemetaries in Mongolia. They show mixed genetics of East and West. This is entirely possible.
Turkish refers to the country Turkey, Turkic refers to other Turkic-speaking countries in Central area.
I've read books mentioning the Scythians using composite bows, (and Sarmatians using lances) I never read that they didn't. Considering they lived separately from settled peoples, I don't see why they wouldn't use different kind of bows...Anyhow, Huns, then Turks, then Mongols, each made improvement after improvement to the bow to make it stronger and more reliable as time went on.
Yes but there's a huge diference between schytian bow and it's asian counter part.The true composite bow was made by huns and other asians through a special process wich I have no doubt you know..and tripled the distance that an arrow could go.This bow and the horse skills made them strong..maybe thats why schytians dissapeard soo fast from Europe
You said in one of your comment sctyhians didint use bows. Please! Im sorry, but you know nothing about them if you say that. Just go on GOOGLE and type in SCYTHIAN FOUNDINGS or SCYTHIAN VASE or something like that, and look at those golden foundings, with sythian warriors on them on horses with bows in their hands...Reflex bow! Hun=Scythian... Herodotos - Book 4....
I never said they didn't use a bow(put your reading glasses back),what I said was schytians used a regular bow not a composite bow wich was three times better and brougth here by huns
Well you should learn how to read, and do so once in a while. Huns are Scythians. If you type in "scythian bow" and "scythian artifacts" into google you can see that what they used were reflex bows...
Man,you are dum..schytian was a wide denomination that included all the tribes coming from Ukraine,Russia and Asia(like huns).Nobody cared to put the facts right and it was easier to give a name for all-it was like a synonim to barbarians from greek and latin world.if u don't understand even that we have nothing to talk about(ossetians and the people from Pamir are the last descendens from the real schytians)Don't reply asswhipe and read something
I don't know why you get so upset and start calling me "asswhipe"... Maybe it makes your uncivilized goat sheppard mind mad that I don't agree with you in certain things. If you can't carry on normal, civilized conversation you will be blocked. I don't care if you don't agree, but keep the comments civilized. If you are not sure how to, go ask mommy...
Schytians had a nomadic life but also kept an agricultural comunity ready to provide them with food and every necesity of life.They kept trade with greeks and thracians as well..they were not soo diferent from any other ancient nationes of time
Trade was important, but they were able to get up and go whenever they were threatened. This greatly frustrated their enemies, as they could never be caught and drag the enemy so far inland they'd have no choice but to turn back or starve.
As for tactics in warfare, the parthian shot, for example was distinct, and was only seen performed by the Scythians, Huns, Turks, Magyars, Mongols, etc. The maneuvering and feigned retreating was something they invented that settled peoples did not use.
Their tactics were good for a people of the stepes but I have more respect for the way my people were fighting and this tradition endured more then the partian shot.You know this tactic of burn and retreat,poison every well,and ambush the enemy in nerrow places wich is a killer for big armies..And in the same time agitate or buy alligience from enemies of your enemies to cramble their back.Now this is true warfair and skill >:))80% rate of success
a hunok ahogy a szkiták is a közel keletről kiinduló ősi kultúra által beolvasztott 1000 fajú törzsek szövetsége voltak! mint mi is később, turanid népet vezetett taurid réteg!
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Skitians were iranic,huns were mongolians[genetic researches says so] and their so-called empire was a savage holdout of european pesants,not a uniform,centralized empire like the romans had;there is no comparison lady..magyars were fino-ugrians and had nothing to do with huns.Hungarians today are a cultural identity,with few genetic relationes to the old magyars[consider this a bless]and as far as your language..it is horible,coming from a french point of view
Magyars are not Finno-Ugrians, and you know nothing about Huns (they are neither Mongols nor Turks). I suggest you read some eastern research done on the subject (if you can read Chinese), it's true that Chinese and Mongolian researchers (among others) rebuke the old European (Austrian/Soviet) theories. Many Magyars do still have a lot of Asian blood, and you can still find a lot of them today who are very eastern looking.
the xiongnu made by scythians, the mongols were the common people, not the rulers, we have nothing with the asian common people, coz we are carpathians from common part. we have royal contact only, the Árpáds were sabirs and huns. the carpatians were scythians .
@xiaogoudelaohu Huns are pure Turks.Chinese annuals wrote about GokTurk Khaganate was purely descendant of Huns.Hun means "a nation that own sheep " in Turkish ( Koyunlu- Kunlu- Kun ). Hungarians ancestors are both On-Ogurs ( Ten tribes in Turkish) who are one of descendant of Huns and Magyar Tribes.
"Nem soha=Never again" ?:)) ok,let's get some facts right..if this lady says hungarians come from Mongolia,it's exactly what my people said about you all the time! If she claims that huns were tall,hansom wise I don't agree..she's probably thinking about the mummies of those white men with redish hair in the Gobi desert(but those were long time dead when huns appeard in history)and also the first cities in China are stuff of legend,not clear when were erected exactly.
Have you ever been to China? You can find many people 190cm taller from Hangzhou and northwards. That is because they are descendants of Jurchens, and other northern Asian nomads who passed through or settled in those areas from long ago. Her description is very accurate. Xia dynasty may not be 100% proven, but there is a lot of evidence to support it. Look at the maps of early dynasties, they're all quite small and border Mongolia before they expanded eastward and southward.
You red the same history as I do,and there's no records of huns before their attacks againts chinese and the building of that huge defensive wall that made a lot of nomads to go to Europe.Like I said earlier,only those mummies with red hair are tall as 1.90M and had celtic ecosez clothes(clear sign,from Europe).Jurchens are tungusc and very small in height due to..genetics and low fat food;but in modern times everything is changed,food,leaving conditiones soo is posible to find tall guys
Huns were not an european people by the description of their contemporary writings and I'm refering to the hard core of the tribe not those that followed their lead pretending to be..huns.Practised savage and weird traditiones like the skull deformation..i remember reading something that described them "EGG HEADS".Also this about uniform empire is again wrong:Romans had a unified empire by one language,one law,one dominant culture..huns had the wide empty plain and many rebel nationes
I read before about the head elongation, but I never read exactly how many people or tribes did that. It seems it was not everyone, or not all period of time. There were people who were enslaved and forced to fight in the Hun armies, but according to ancient descriptions, they describe the Huns as being much different looking than the Romans, Goths, Slavs etc.
Ofcourse they were different,because they were savage even for those days.Not everybody had elongated head(only the lucky ones:))and also had another habit,to bide their nose so it would flaten their head to look more fierce.This is more the exotic stuff..but I don't think we'll ever know their culture or language wich is more atractive to me/hungarian claims are a bit wild considering how many tribes were in the Volga area ;I think turks have more rights over huns
Even in China some people today sleep on hard wooden beds as children to get flatter heads (in the back). I don't think savage is a good word, considering Romans killed in the Colosseum for sport. The Huns appeared in history much earlier than the Turks, and left by the time the Turks appeared during Tang dynasty (and got defeated and replaced by the Uighurs) The Huns introduced the nomad way of life to Turks and Mongolic peoples after they themselves learned it form Scythians.
Flat head!! In Europe we like dolicephalic heads,no?Anyway,savage is when you cut a head and use it as a cup,taking scalps to hang on the waist,head biding,cuts to the face for fierce look,sleping on the horse,sex on the horse(kidding here:)etcHuns are not older then turks(wich are mongolians with iranic mix)and Uighurs are turks.The nomadic life is older then homo sapiens,and the conditiones in Mongolia don't encurage an agricultural life for sure:)
I didn't say they were older, I said their empire and civilization was older, which is true. Although existing at the same time, the Huns established an empire first.
Uighurs were not part of the Turks. They defeated them and took over (then were defeated and replaced by Kyrgyz themselves).
Nomadic life is very old, but the specific way of nomadic life people in Central Asia live is what I am talking about, and their culture came from Scythians.
Uyghurs are a turkish folk and I'm not debating this anymore since is a known fact!Huns never had an empire in the traditional sence,but a bunch of tribes conquered and forced to give allegiance(man for future battles)and an annual sum of agricultural produce,precious metals and animals..what ever they possesd at the time!Now,romans realy had an empire with is suposed to bring forth..education for the elite,rules,laws,a common language..the shit >:))
Scythians never had a huge influence on the mongolians and turks..they were not bringing nothing new in a place where even today nomadic life is the only way of life.Actualy they were sacked out by asians very quick and kept as a side kick to future spoils..Even today,this iranic folk is small and insignificant..ossets in Caucasus and another group in Pamir..the ones that kept an european look I mean(like a part of the uyghurs)
The Uralic theory was created by Germans in the 19th century during the rise of nationalism (the same time Hitler's Aryan Race theory came about). It was used to justify the rule over Hungary by the Habsbergs. Linguistically there is not much more than several basic words and a general structural similarity...no more than Turkish and Mongolian are related. There is no anthropological, archaeological, or any other evidence, including written historical records to prove that theory.
There have been many essays and books written to disprove the theory, which isn't widely accepted today anymore except by a few stubborn people. Chinese scholars and even Mongolian believe that the Xiongnu migrated west to Hungary and today's Hungarians are their descendants. I bought some interesting books in China, but unfortunately there are no English translations available...perhaps I will work at it one day. What is interesting are the "Madjars" in Central Kazakhstan, whose DNA is more
similar to that of Magyars in Hungary than to the surrounding Kazakhs (there are a few publications of this genetic research done online...easy to find)
Theories are made to argue opon them.chinese do it to disprove the uighurs rights and why have you bought chinese writings:)) I agree hungarians have a mongolian-turkish component.I red about madjars and I don't know,they could have migrated in the hun times from Europe
Language studies are hard and open to interpretationes in the case of an agglutinative language like hungarian.But even an amateur can see the resemblens with finnish and estonian witch I heard and saw for myself last year.Estonians have a mild german sound in the language(and hot,blond girls:))
I havent read the whole convo about the language and etc topic, only some... Language similarities can be the result of trade, close livin areas etc, doesnt necessary mean genetical relations. Hungarians have nothing to do with the Finns genetically. Hungarian language has common words with turkish, farsi (persia), urdu (pakistan) and many other languages as well....
In the case of hungarians,would be a miracol to prove a genetic link to the northern Uralic group;It's enough to look back from the first Hungarian state to this day and see that magyar was a language imposed through school,administration and religion,many times by force;thats the reason slovakians and romanians hate you soo much.Those barrowings can be explain easily in many cases beeing an aglutinative tongue;the word making it's enough to see coincidence that are not there.
Also,ofcourse there's turkish words,because of the long tradition tide between magyar and turks(cumans,kazah) from the migration times.From the same time comes those few iranian words,when eastern Europe still had a schytian component(alans,sarmatians,jassy)but the main core is Uralic,as it was proved by scientist.
Nothing's been proven, that's why it's a "theory".
Again, no archaeological, anthropological, genetic evidence or anything else can prove it. It is a weak theory based solely on a few similar words and similar grammatical structure...that's all. Far more evidence refutes it than supports it.
No evidence? Many chronicles talk about the Huns being Scythians, and the Magyar (Hungarian) people are Huns... Also there are a lot of archeological evidences, for example the gold stags found in Hungary and elsewhere. These stags are very very similar in looking, eventhough they were found far away from each other. Why? Because it comes from the same culture. We have legend about Hunor and Magyar going hunting and following the "Wonderous Stag"....
Boy,get your facts right..every nomad tribe coming from what is Ukraine today were called schytians,doesn't mean they were those iranic speaking tribes!Don't you understand nothing?..The stag is present in all of Europe,doesn't mean shit for evidence in a time that paganism was wide spread
Chronicles talk about it Huns being Schythians too... And they didint just do it randomly. Herodotos book 4. Gesta Hungarorum. Tarihi Ungurus (Turkish) and so on... All these talk about us being Scythians. Plus the archologocal evidence...
@AlbeoAccipiter Genetic tests done on Hun graves from Egyin Gol showed the remains were 89% Mongoloid and 11% Caucasoid, showing they had mixed with Scythians before establishing their empire in northern China and Mongolia. It's not myth about Huns being Scythians, it's history
@NemSoha Genetic analysis showed graves in the Carpathian Basin (5 and 6th century after Christ), to the Western Huns / Avars / Hungarians were greatly in excess of 80% Caucasian / Iranian origin... This is shown in the "Mesopotamian" origin (even today)...
@padre601 Actually Gyula Laszlos research shows the graves to be mostly Onoghur, arriving much earlier than 896. Several other historical sources such as the Chronicon Pictum even put the Conquest around 700AD or even earlier. Surely some of the population was mixed, but definitely not a majority Caucasian.
The hate between Slovaks, Romanians and Hunagrians were forced on us. And by the way! We didint ask them to come to the Carpathian-Basin. We already had a Kingdom there for more than 1000 years, when they migrated where. Romanians came up north from Wallachiain large numbers. Then when the vlachs (romanians) came up north to works, we actually did help them. gave them work on the fields, allowed them to use their own language in their churches...
Yeah right :)))))))) and hungarians were ancient sumerians lost in the frozen north,but found a miraculously empty land and settled those wondering vlachs and slovaks..:))))))) quite amusing,won't you say?See how I can invent stuff just like every hungarian today?
And sooner or later, you will know it is the best to be east asian.
see "The Reality of Human Races" "Dr. Philippe Rushton - The Latest Research on Race", you should know Huns and Turks are highly mixed with west people, but never forget who you are.
After 1700AD, the whites dominate this world, but we will get the domination position back because east asian are the top one.
Már bocs, de ez úgy baromság, ahogy van. Europid Hunok??? Hahaha! Leírásokból egyértelműen kiderül, hogy Attila tipikus alacsony mongoloid volt. Nem hogy, europid, de még turanid embertípusról sincs szó. Legvalószínűbb, hogy tipikus kelet ázsiai arca volt, pedig Attila az EURÓPAI(!) hunok vezetője volt. Mi, magyarok europidok vagyunk, és nincs szükségünk "gusztustalan","ronda", "160 centis" mongoloid ősökre. Ennyi az egész.
Nezzed meg Dr. Kiszely Istvan eloadasat amiben a mitokondrialis DNS vizsgalatokrol beszel, s a magyarok eredeterol... Az eloadas letoltheto a DOBOGOMMT(pont)HU oldalon a "letoltes" menubol...
A mi nepcsoportjaink kozt is fellelheto bizonyos korokben a vagott szem... Szekelyek kozt is van... Az alfoldon is....Ezzel nem azt mondom, hogy azsiaiak vagyunk, hanem azt, hogy keveredtunk valamelyest veluk is valoszinusithetoen...
"Leírták, hogy kelet ázsiai kinézetű volt Attila." mégis ki írta le a franciák vagy a románok?
sírok feltárásánál sose találtak 1 "mongoloid" jegyeket látszató koponyát vagy leírást sem, ezt mind a régi nyugati filmesek fantáziájában él csupán, a honok 1 része volt vágottszemű akik a keleti leigázott népek közül kerültek a soraikba.
3.Hun Empire are bigger than Han? haha.. man, you should know, Huns are nomadic nation, they goes everywhere if there are grass. Han was farmer nation, they have city, town... Han Empire used 400 years to crush the Huns Empire which has 400,000 cavalry.
OSSETIANS are SCHYTIANS...all of the SCHYTIANS(BULGARIANS-HUNGARIANS)have to support for our independence...long live all SCHYTIANS... FREE OSSETIA!!!
1. xia is not a hun country, hun are sons of some xia people. when xia was defeated by shang. some xia people(just a few) escape to Mongolia.
2.Huns are not white, ok? this is fucking shit. God, when Huns was chase to west, maybe they have too few numbers and use some local white as some of their army, but you cannot say huns are white. white are some slaves
3. Huns Empire are not the biggest/powerful on that time, china is.
1 Xia is said even by some Chinese scholars to be this way, but also Xia is doubted to even have existed by some.
2 Agreed... perhaps it was mistranslated? It's always bothered me during that part when she says Europid too. Then again, in Chinese sources, words like "hong" dont mean red, it means brown, so the translation should not be literal for their physical appearances.
3 China, even Han Dynasty was only half the size of present day PRC, so it was smaller than the Hun empire.
Some historians debate whether Xia was indeed a dynasty at all, so its quite mysterious.
As for them being white, of course they weren't, but I wonder If they are analyzing the ancient descriptions too much about them having fair skin, light hair, light eyes, etc. In the north, curly/wavy hair, white skin, blue/hazel eyes, etc. are not uncommon, yet Mongols, northern Chinese, Korean, etc. don't look white at all. These are just northern Asian genes. I also don't get the Europid thing she says
I know why this girl want to say Huns are white. two reasons:
1.they think whites are better than east asians, so they can not believe east asian crush white.
2.Nowadays Hungary are white, but they also say they are sons of Huns, at the sametime, they do not want to be east asians, so the only way is say that Huns are white.. lol..
Huns knew how to write. And the runes they used most likely are theirs, not taken from the Turks. Look at archeological evidences, like the disks from tataria (Tatarlaka)... Those are said to be around 6 or 7 thousands yrs old. So it shows people were living in the Carpathian Basin way before the textbooks teach us, and they had a great culture and were able to read/write.
That's right. Attila and the Huns settled in Hungary, not Turkey. I am so sick of these extreme Turkish nationalists spewing their propaganda left and right calling everyone Turkish. There were only 4,000 Ottoman Turks who settled in Anatolia, and made hardly any genetic impact there, thus Turkish today have nothing to do with Central Asians. They are mostly a mix of Armenian, Greek, Slav, and whoever else was living there at the time.
You said in one of your comments that turkish is related to sumerian. Maybe so, but if you look after IDA BOBULA's works, she also found a great amount of relation between sumerian and hungarian language!
Hungarians are nothing else than Turks with a little change in Language!Today Hungarians population is 10 million which is a joke!Turks population is 350 million!Turks had to be at least 600 million today!But because of the genocides made 1800-1950 from Russian,Greece and Serbs their number is only 350 million today!Hun spoke only Turkish!This Video tells not the truth!Magyars are pure Turks!There is no Hungarian people only Turks with a little changed Language!
Sumerians were pure Turkish!Since 100 years it is clear that Sumerian were Turkish!Their race,Language clothes,Myths,traditions all pure Turkish!
Some funny people think that Serbs,Croats,Greece,Hungarians or Fins have their own culture?They are using Turkish traditon and dances!Today in Sumerian Language more than 1000 similar words were found with Turkish!All technologic words were Turkish!So keep on dreaming here!The world is hiding the truth about world history!Turkish world history!
200 of those are basic words, hungarians has 5.000 sumerian basic words, see the diference. most of your people has been turkmenized by the mongol horde and altaic turkic languages has nothing to do with the ancient tur-ug turk word that means break away in sumerian and came when assyrians kicked out the sumerians. anyway its not used today probably because of the horde that plundered raped killed and spread chaos and want to make claim on whole peoples only because of one word.
Read my text again!First of all 5000 Hungarian words in Sumerian is the biggest lie i heard!Hungarians langauge nearly all old words are Turkish!Amd there is no Hungarian race,your people today only 10 million!Turks today 350 million!Tukrs who changend their language: Germans,Englands,Russian,Japanese,Mexican,
Bulgarian,Fins,Hungarian,Syrian,80% of the Jews,40% Agyptians,all Kurds,50% Tunesians,Albans,Bosnians and .... list goes on!These and others have Turkish origins!
Few Sumerian-Turkish words,important words: Sum:Ata-Tur:Ata=Father Sum:Ama-Tur:Ama=Mother Sum:Kiz-Tur:Kiz=Girl Sum:Er-Tur:Er=Soldier Sum:Tengir-Tur:Tengir=God Sum:Kan-Tur:Kan=Blood Sum:Yaz-Tur:Yaz=to write Sum:Yol-Tur:Yol=Road Sum:Demir-Tur:Demir=Iron Sum:Chark-Tur:Chark=Wheel These words show you who the Sumerians were,the whole Language was Turkish and all important words,like the technologic words were Turkish!And there is no Hungarian people,Hungarians are Turks!
Think again!How can you say there are Hungarian people?In the last 2000 Years,"Hungarians" had no State,no invention,not conquered any lands?How can that be,if your such a great people and where are your numbers (Today 10 million)?
Turks on the other side in the last 2000 Years,conquered nearly every land on this Earth made the biggest invetions,like paper etc..In China ruled till yesterday,India till today,Iran till today,nearly every place till today,today Turks 350 million!
Its really easy!Hungarians in old time were Turks,with the time their Turkish changed a bit,thats all!
In the last 4000 years in today Hungary,only Turks had a State: Kimmers,Scythians,Sarmats,Huns,Bulgars,
Alans,Kumans,Beceneks... so on so on!
Only the last 2000 Years:Huns,Bulgars, Alans,Avars,Kipcaks,Magyars,Kumans,Beceneks,
Selcuks,Ottoman,Golden Horde state,and others!Where are the "Ungarians"?In your today lands allways were Turks but where are the mighty,great "Hungarians"???
Where did the people of the great Turkish states went?Where did the people of Kimmers, Huns,Scyths,Sarmats,Amazons,Thracians,Frigs,
Etruscan,Avars,Kumans,Alans,Almans,Germans,Gots,Saks,Beceneks,Kipcaks and other Turkish people went? NO WHERE,you call them today,Bosnian,Croat,Fin,Hungarian,Alban,
Macedon,German,English,France,Italian,of course not all of Europe has Turkish origins,BUT most of the Europeans have Turkish origins!Have a nice day!
you should read some history, maybe start with the recent times (about Hungarian state and inventions, hmmm). your words are offensive and lack basis, hey. you try to turkize people by means of disrespect and gibberihistoric crap talk...
you should also watch this video before dissing. it's great that it has some english subtitles, for we all know english is turkish too...
I read a lot of history, but not that crap what you read!I watched this video,nothing special!Like allways what is turkish is showed like it belongs to someone else!Hungarian historians know very well that hungarians are turkish,but they cant say it in public its forbidden!It is also in Turkiye forbidden for a historian to say Scythians are turkish!The west dont want that!They want that the world beliefs in pseudo "indo-europeans" history!The biggest lie in world history!
Most of the said things in this video are lies,like mongolian is closer to hunnish than turkish!West allways lie about history and fake things!Same is for the so called armenian genocide!All politics!
You should read my writings carefuly!I dont say all europeans,i said most europeans!You can believe what you what,but fact is hungarians are turks!In your country today all of your old clothes your horse riding traditions your music,music instruments are pure turkish!Go ask your historians!
They are a little, because while we had been invaded by you, "cousins"you took 2 million of us for slavery. My people built all the Northen part of Turkey, you knew us well, knew how good our peasants were in house building, so used them. And for everything else. The young boys became janicsars, leaders in your army, knowing their intelligence, bravery,used them, and you 'd never told them that they were Hungarian, you told them they were Turkish.
There are Hungarians in Africa who served there with the Turkish Army during Ottoman Empire. They still speak Hungarian today, they never returned home. I forget their name, but you can google it.
the ancient turk (tur-ug) and the today altaic turkic is two completely diferent langages. in reality it is Tur-ug which means away from sumeria and about sumeria, turks not only claim sumria but they claim people that invaded sumeria (so they where ethnics not main population), then they say they are sumerians becuse they had occupied but who havent? even the gutians (goths) has ruled sumeria 2100BC,
the main sumerian that was forced away by the assyrians became tur-ug(turc,turk) the crown of king Geza received from the Byzantine Emperor bears the inscription as king over turks by byzantium. all hungarian kings has worn that crown except two. The Sumerian language shows a complete basic structural identity with the Magyar. Fourthy to sixty percent of the modern Magyar skulls are identical to the Sumerian skulls.
Structural relationships exist between the Turkic and the Sumerian languages but at the same time similarities in vocabulary are minimal and is a sign that one has occupied the other at a time.
AlexandruMaximusXVI)you speak BLA BLA BLA.bulgar is no a iranic word but Turkic,you no nothing realy nothing ,you write bulshit.look to the Avar Turks and you can see what they are and what proto bulgars are.and about boskurt mhp and gilgamish say it in English than can I understand too about your lies.
brother turania58 said that vikings and all pagans are turks because their use of kurgan, I hope one day to share kurkan with him real turkish style one day :D oh wow. No other graves is good enough than a turkish grave after this experience. now when he finally learned write they have invented writing to, my next projekt will be to stash up zyklon B,
aval nem dicsekednék és honnan tudod hogy turk? turán az egy iráni szo. nézd Gilgamesh. leggtöbb turk itt politikai lobby a bozkurt mhp youngturksnak. ja bozkurt az egy kömuves rend, ugyan azok akik 1800as években irták át a magyar történelmet habszburgokal. cCc egyik jeluk, meg az a kézjel. nem fura hogy USAnak egyik kedvenc szövetséguk. Totál irányitás alat vannak. nagyon emlékeztetnek a crusadertube zsido lobbyra ami 600 emberböl áll it youtubon. ugyan ugy dolgoznak, crusadertube fizetve van.
Turán az Iran eredetu szo elöször is masodszor közép azsiát a mongolok törökitették és a ferfiakat lemészárolták, gyerekeket adoptálták a nöket megeröszakolták. példaul parancsot adtak hogy egy egész orszagot ami magyarokbol ált lemészaroljanak Dentu magyariát és egy hatalmas fejpiramist épitettek egyik városukbol aminek a Romának a méretével szokták mostanában a kutatok hasonlitani. törökök "már" több mint egy magyar beszédu nemzetet irtot ki.
Bulg is iranic word, means noble. In Sogdiana the name Bulgar is very popular. There is town called Kodzha Bulgar. There is also mountains Strandzha, cities Varna, mounts Shipka and an Madara village as in Bulgaria There is found an Madara horseman, ABSOLUTELY like the bulgarian one. Ive seen it! The biggest city of Sogdiana is called Bulkh in farsi Bolgh Also there is a lot of iranic words in nowadays bulgarian language.
mostanság én is olvasok erről. Sajnos a mongolok, és önmagában a türkök valóban egy "olvasztós" erőszakosabb nép volt, de erőteljes volt a keveredés velük, és ezért rokon népek lettek. Viszont az alap mentalitás mostanság is kitűnik. A magyaroknak szinte mindig ilyen "liberál" beállítottságúak a kórhoz képest. A türk népeknél azért ez többnyire nem mondható el :)
Listen Turco-altaic doenmehs! Tell me when your civilization started? Stop with your fanatic prpaganda. Everyone knows, that your country is a country of fanatics. You say the etrusks, hitites, egyptians, Yamato, scythians, ugrofinns, sarmatians - all of them is originated from turkic. Shame on you!
iran tribes had the word turan thousands of year before the word turk existed. unfortunately the mongol army raped and killed lots of tribes and made them turkish speaking in 11th century, death of thousand years old cultures. now turks call everything turk and even turkish speaking peoples is tired of turkey turks endless rants :D
if you say it is not right i can send you many proves,with non Turkic world fame history examination sites,if you say I will more I can send you the old proto Turkic scription with old Scythians and Etrusk scriptions you can equation,and if you say is not enough I send you old Turkic culture The (KURGAN)same culture with Summerians+Etrusk+Scythians+Tracian,evriting going to Turkic you can do nothig and Im olmost forget DNA bonen of Summerians and Etrusk Scytians equation with Turks,
ahahahaha yeah thats right. ataturk was a doenmeh, jewish descendant of false messiah zwi Mustafa Kemal was also Freemason. ahahahaha turks cant think clear so they make genocides instead. poor allies, armenia was once their biggest ally, look what they did ahahahahahaha
if I was Romenian I will never speak or write about history.you romenians have gypsy,Italian,slavic,Tatar,Scytians=Magyar+Turkic.german,shame you romenians you have not your own history,but we Turks and Hungary have very old history Summerians,Etrusk,Tracian,Scythian,Hun,Avar,and rest of magnificent history,
AlexandruMaximusXVI)you write real nonsense I will not dicusion with you but you have no brain to luern real deep history from central asia we Turks were olways in anatolia the last Turkic grup from central asia from Oguz Turks they take it over from the other Turkic speaking people.and about word Turan coms from pesians it is mean land of(TUR)horse people from north the central asians the(TURKS)
Scythians and sarmatians have NOTHING to do with turkish altai tribes. They were many-more civilized and much much older. much of the today turkish nations where peoples raped by the turkish mongolian forces, the most slaves of the turks has became the most loyal and brainwashed ones. thousand years of genocides, thank you turania58 liars and opressors like you is not welcome in bulgaria and beyond, your country of today is built on lies by zwi jews like ataturk.
another stupid they nows nothing about history.I have nothing to say to you stupids you unknowing you will keep caling same thing lurn before you speak shit,and about AttaTurk is Jewish?????first your kind people call us mongols and about Genocide now is Attaturk Jews?????what is next???
you have like 17 words for rape and killed 1.5 million poor armenians. when azerbadjan attacked armenia with modern army of 60.000 men and had tanks, aircraft and the armenians was 20.000 peasants with antique riffles, they not only crushed the turkish army but liberated Karabakh.
ataturk non-muslim doenmeh, jewish descendant of 17th-century Jewish false messiah Sabbatai Tzwi (Zevi). the cruel dictator of Turkey, Mustafa Kemal was also Freemason. pasha was also doenmeh.
iran tribes had the word turan thousands of year before the word turk existed. unfortunately the mongol army raped and killed lots of tribes and made them turkish speaking in 11th century, death of thousand years old cultures. now turks call everything turk and even turkish speaking peoples is tired of turkey turks endless rants.
They were educated between the Turk tribes! Than German tribes or the Thracians. Do not forget it, that Türk, Sumér-Hurrian the continuation of a culture.
turks did not have sumerian gods and the have fever sumerian words than romanians haves dacian, btw hungarian haves 5000+ words while turks have about 200.
Szia! A magyar 2 millió szó és hang. Elamite-Sumer-hurrit-magyar-finnugor a sorrend. A türk a hurrianból ágazik le. A románok nem Dákok hanem Vlachok. Elszlávosodott latinizált Trákok , a mai Albániából.
Nimrodnak volt két ikker fia, hunor meg magor. mindketten elvettek alán (örmény)feleségeket és a népuket egy szövetségben öszekadták. Attila a 33dik leszármazot nimrodnak. néhány Régi avar magyar Isteneink, Pan, Jász, Baal, +sok egyptomi isten meg a napisten. egyptomiaiakal a Ham vérvoalrol vagyunk kappcsolatban és találhata magyar törzs mindegyik észak afrikai országban. kb 5.000-20.000 személy szoktak lenni darabonként. ugyan igy találhat néhány középázsiai országban is magyar törzs.
Az alán 100% örmény és mai napokig tele van nimrod múemlékekel az országuk meg a régi teruletek ahonnan kiirtották a törökök öket. söt még erdélyben is volt nem rég három városuk ahol örmények laktak, biztos találsz oldalt ahol roluk irnak. még a madár is ami képviseli az örményeket nagyon emlékeztet a turul madárol, az egész örmény mentalitans nagyon emlékesztet a magyarol. az iráni kapcsolatunk kesöb jött.
stupid Bulgar you have write about turkic poeple History about proto-Bulgars your, fascist Bulgarian Historic researchs say that they are iranian nation,Bulgars dont look as Iranian they are dark skin big eye and very hairy people but Ogur Turkic where Hunagrians and Bulgars and Most of Kipcak people be similar the oguz grup are the south grup of turkic for example Turkey,Turkmen,Azeri,
All folk himself decides what he should avow himself!
Many folk got mixed on the steppe. (Turk,scytian, Finno-Ugric). The language, reports nothing! DNA does not lie though. The Hungarians relatives Kyrgyz, but with the Turkishs not. All of them are two Turk folk though. We are not relatives with the Finns, with the Lapp(saami) yes. though both Finno-Ugric folk. Our relatives Khojant, Iskhasimi, Avarians. They Scythian folk.
We seldom realize for example, that our most private thoughts and emotions are not actually our own. For we think in terms of languages and images which we did not invent, but which we were given to us by our society. We copy emotional reactions from our parents....SOCIETY IS OUR EXTENDED MIND AND BADY!!!!!!
I think you no nothing about History Scytians are Turkic people have nothing to do with Iranic people but yheyhave many iranic words,
Scytians Kurgan culture the clothes live styl evriting is Turkic,
how they look like,Cheecbones)Bratisval head ony Turkic people have that it is Turkic synbol,evriting is Turkic about Scythians they have nothing about iranic or other nation>SCYTIANS ARE TURKS.
Scythian civilization started near 3000BC. Can you tell me when the turkic one starts? Scythian language was avesta/sanskrit, which is also the language of the bulgars. It is prooved, that they came from north of Pamiro-Hindokoush, as the bulgars. Scythians are irano-speaking people as bulgars, croats and kurds. Please, stop with your propaganda. You made the hunns turkic, the ugro-finns turkic, and now you want to proove that scythians are also turkic tribe. Well, good luck!
ElvDark)Hungary are Turkic From Ogur same as proto Bulgars Hungars are Summerians>Etrusk>Akadians>Tracian>Scytians>Sarmatans>Huns>dont try to make them aryan it will not hapening make them dark iranic people we are Turanic poeple. we are TURANS not aryans.Turkic+Magyar=TURAN.
Listen you Turco-Altaic piece of sick pig! Tell me when your civilization started? Stop with your fanatic prpaganda. Everyone knows, that your country is a country of fanatics. You say the etrusks, hitites, egyptians, Yamato, scythians, ugrofinns, sarmatians - all of them is turkic. Shame on you!
elvdark)asholle I say Scytians Sarmatians Etrusk Summerians Akkadians Huns they are Turanic nation,Turanic means Uralic-Altaic-Tungustic.shame? way that I speek the true?I not arian rasist they says evriting is arian who is wite hehe.
As I say, they came from the teritory, north of Sogdiana and Pamiro-Hundokoush, which is 10-20 000km away from the Western Siberia and Altai.
Look, I would not argue with you, becouse I can't even understand what you are saing. Just remember, that you cannot change the facts. SCYTHIANS ARE NOT TURKIC TRIBE!
Modern Hungarians are Asian brothers & sisters!!! We Vietnamese love you! Amen.
Prophet4YAHWEH 9 months ago
Schythian & Huns are the same!
SzekelyBarnaAttiIaMG 9 months ago
A zsidóság mindig hangsúlyozza, hogy őket nem azért választotta ki az I-ten, mert kiválóbbak lettek volna a többi népnél, sőt, azt is hangsúlyozza, hogy Izraelt gyakran csak saját nevéért menti meg az I-ten, hiszen ők méltatlanok lettek a szeretetre. Nem is véletlen, hogy I-ten mégis őket szereti. És idegen tőle az üres, semmit mondó és beképzelt magyarkodás. Ha van is a magyarságnak értéke csak az I-tennek köszönheti, nem magának, hiszen csak "por és hamu".
katolikuskereszteny 1 year ago
@katolikuskereszteny Tisztelettel, olyan nincs, nem is volt, hogy I-TEN... mindíg is IZ-TEN volt... mai magyarul ISTEN... Mint ahogy IZRAEL se volt, csak JUDEA... talán ne vonjuk kétségbe a Római Birodalom precizitását. A rómaiak nem véletlenül írták azt, hogy Provincia Judea (egyébként még Josephus Flauvius kortárs zsidó történetíró se használta ezt a megnevezést... nem véletlenül, mert maga a szó nem "ivrit" eredetű, és ivritül nem is jelent semmit...
padre601 1 year ago
@katolikuskereszteny ? Arról nem nyitok vitát, hogy melyik az a nép, amelyik üres, semmitmondó és piszkosul beképzelt., de biztos, hogy nem a magyar nép az. Ha maga "keresztény", akkor illene tudnia, hogy Isten egyik népet se helyezte a többi fölé, számára minden egyes ember egyenlő és mindegyik lélek fontos. Abban egyetértek Önnel, hogy a magyarság (és nem a gyüttment népség értendő ez alatt) értékét Istennek köszönheti, és nem magának... és ezt mindig is köszönte Istenének... ezt se tudja?
padre601 1 year ago
@katolikuskereszteny
A multad kutatasa nem magyarkodas, hanem onmagad keresese.
Ahhoz hogy onmagad megismerd, az oseidet es azoknak filozofiajat is meg kell ismerni.
Nem kell nagy tudas ahhoz hogy ezt megertse valaki.
drmcs5 10 months ago
@katolikuskereszteny
Te vagy a legbutább ember, akit valaha olvastam. Gratulálok hozzá! :)
balakor777 8 months ago
kar ,hogy nincsen vegig.
ZsoltTheHun 1 year ago
koszonet a feliratozasert!volna nehany otletem,hogy miket lehetne feliratozni(pap gabor osszes,kiss denes,szantai lajos,dr kiszely istvan stb,elnezest,hogy a tobbieket nem emlitettem,de akkor tobbszor is kimeritenem az 500 karaktert:-)),de ez bizonyara a feliratozo szemelyeben is folmerult.koszonet es hala meg egyszer!
ZsoltTheHun 1 year ago
priskos rhetor wrote: atila the king of scythians!
priszkosz rétor szerint atilla a szkiták királya!
ZulcaCarpathius 2 years ago
At 1.44 she mentioned that The Chinese Xia dynasty was the first Hun dynasty????
crazy assumption!
According to Chinese chronicle,Yu was made the first king of Xia dynasty because of his ability to man the flooding to the benefit of the early Chinese agricultural settlments along the mid Yellow river basin; while the Huns were roaming in the dry grass land far north.
I can't imagine the nomadic Huns had the patience and passion to deal with the flooding Yellow river.
hongnongren 2 years ago
The Chinese recorded the Huns only at ~300BC during Qin and Han dynasty while the Xia dynasty was at ~3000 BC accordingly. Did the Huns existed then in the steppe?
hongnongren 2 years ago
The Huns were a coalition of nomadic Tribes . many of Them were The ancestors of modern day Eurasia, alans , Ogurs , Scyths , Sarmats , Mongols , Kaspians , and so many Turkic Tribes were Living together. The Name '' Ogur'' or '' Onogur'' was a Turkic word means ''On ok ( ten arrows ) ''. Ur-Ar-Er means '' Warrior , Noble''.
The Name '' Onogur'' or ''Hunogur '' Means '' Warriors Of Ten arrows Clan''
Read Something Before Writing Your West europen Bullshits Here !
bartovskaya 2 years ago
@bartovskaya Dear Bartovskaya!
The HUN is the name of my people ... HUNGAR means that the Army of the Huns / or People of the Huns... HUNGARIA / or HUNGARY means: Land of the Huns . This has nothing to do with the word "onugor"... The GAR use the word in the Hungarian language (even today) - meaning a great flood, and/or great mass.
Yours is a Hun
padre601 1 year ago
Schythians=hun=türk.
burakkk55 2 years ago
During the Napoleonic wars , the Hungarian soldiers were still using scythian battle chants to build their courage . No other nation is known for this .
Then finely the Habsburgs extinguished it during their rule over Hungary
1ebihal 2 years ago
the scythian sarmatas were 100% turanid people! the bones arent lie!
PANNONcarpathius 2 years ago
So what are you guys then, turks or scyths?
cause the lady said early hungarians where tall and the turks are of mongoloid type.
lu120499 2 years ago
Huns got their way of life and culture from Scythians. It is entirely possible they mixed with each other. Look at the grave findings of Hun cemetaries in Mongolia. They show mixed genetics of East and West. This is entirely possible.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Turkish refers to the country Turkey, Turkic refers to other Turkic-speaking countries in Central area.
I've read books mentioning the Scythians using composite bows, (and Sarmatians using lances) I never read that they didn't. Considering they lived separately from settled peoples, I don't see why they wouldn't use different kind of bows...Anyhow, Huns, then Turks, then Mongols, each made improvement after improvement to the bow to make it stronger and more reliable as time went on.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Yes but there's a huge diference between schytian bow and it's asian counter part.The true composite bow was made by huns and other asians through a special process wich I have no doubt you know..and tripled the distance that an arrow could go.This bow and the horse skills made them strong..maybe thats why schytians dissapeard soo fast from Europe
sorin1918 2 years ago
You said in one of your comment sctyhians didint use bows. Please! Im sorry, but you know nothing about them if you say that. Just go on GOOGLE and type in SCYTHIAN FOUNDINGS or SCYTHIAN VASE or something like that, and look at those golden foundings, with sythian warriors on them on horses with bows in their hands...Reflex bow! Hun=Scythian... Herodotos - Book 4....
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
I never said they didn't use a bow(put your reading glasses back),what I said was schytians used a regular bow not a composite bow wich was three times better and brougth here by huns
sorin1918 2 years ago
Well you should learn how to read, and do so once in a while. Huns are Scythians. If you type in "scythian bow" and "scythian artifacts" into google you can see that what they used were reflex bows...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
Man,you are dum..schytian was a wide denomination that included all the tribes coming from Ukraine,Russia and Asia(like huns).Nobody cared to put the facts right and it was easier to give a name for all-it was like a synonim to barbarians from greek and latin world.if u don't understand even that we have nothing to talk about(ossetians and the people from Pamir are the last descendens from the real schytians)Don't reply asswhipe and read something
sorin1918 2 years ago
I don't know why you get so upset and start calling me "asswhipe"... Maybe it makes your uncivilized goat sheppard mind mad that I don't agree with you in certain things. If you can't carry on normal, civilized conversation you will be blocked. I don't care if you don't agree, but keep the comments civilized. If you are not sure how to, go ask mommy...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
You are stupid that's why!
sorin1918 2 years ago
Ok buddy! Inteligent answer. I was talking normally to you and you get all upset... Shows how uncivilized you are...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
Schytians had a nomadic life but also kept an agricultural comunity ready to provide them with food and every necesity of life.They kept trade with greeks and thracians as well..they were not soo diferent from any other ancient nationes of time
sorin1918 2 years ago
Trade was important, but they were able to get up and go whenever they were threatened. This greatly frustrated their enemies, as they could never be caught and drag the enemy so far inland they'd have no choice but to turn back or starve.
As for tactics in warfare, the parthian shot, for example was distinct, and was only seen performed by the Scythians, Huns, Turks, Magyars, Mongols, etc. The maneuvering and feigned retreating was something they invented that settled peoples did not use.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Their tactics were good for a people of the stepes but I have more respect for the way my people were fighting and this tradition endured more then the partian shot.You know this tactic of burn and retreat,poison every well,and ambush the enemy in nerrow places wich is a killer for big armies..And in the same time agitate or buy alligience from enemies of your enemies to cramble their back.Now this is true warfair and skill >:))80% rate of success
sorin1918 2 years ago
Sorry, composite bow! Compound bow is cheating =P
NemSoha 2 years ago
a hunok ahogy a szkiták is a közel keletről kiinduló ősi kultúra által beolvasztott 1000 fajú törzsek szövetsége voltak! mint mi is később, turanid népet vezetett taurid réteg!
a tauridok mezopotámia-subar-tu népei.
PANNONcarpathius 2 years ago
A hunok is szkitak...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Skitians were iranic,huns were mongolians[genetic researches says so] and their so-called empire was a savage holdout of european pesants,not a uniform,centralized empire like the romans had;there is no comparison lady..magyars were fino-ugrians and had nothing to do with huns.Hungarians today are a cultural identity,with few genetic relationes to the old magyars[consider this a bless]and as far as your language..it is horible,coming from a french point of view
sorin1918 3 years ago
Magyars are not Finno-Ugrians, and you know nothing about Huns (they are neither Mongols nor Turks). I suggest you read some eastern research done on the subject (if you can read Chinese), it's true that Chinese and Mongolian researchers (among others) rebuke the old European (Austrian/Soviet) theories. Many Magyars do still have a lot of Asian blood, and you can still find a lot of them today who are very eastern looking.
xiaogoudelaohu 2 years ago 2
@xiaogoudelaohu
the xiongnu made by scythians, the mongols were the common people, not the rulers, we have nothing with the asian common people, coz we are carpathians from common part. we have royal contact only, the Árpáds were sabirs and huns. the carpatians were scythians .
Felvidekdothu 9 months ago
@xiaogoudelaohu Huns are pure Turks.Chinese annuals wrote about GokTurk Khaganate was purely descendant of Huns.Hun means "a nation that own sheep " in Turkish ( Koyunlu- Kunlu- Kun ). Hungarians ancestors are both On-Ogurs ( Ten tribes in Turkish) who are one of descendant of Huns and Magyar Tribes.
TurkoTartarian 9 months ago
"few genetic relations to the old Magyars?"
I beg to differ...
Look at this video: /watch?v=nWPCVMEsyeM
NemSoha 2 years ago
"Nem soha=Never again" ?:)) ok,let's get some facts right..if this lady says hungarians come from Mongolia,it's exactly what my people said about you all the time! If she claims that huns were tall,hansom wise I don't agree..she's probably thinking about the mummies of those white men with redish hair in the Gobi desert(but those were long time dead when huns appeard in history)and also the first cities in China are stuff of legend,not clear when were erected exactly.
sorin1918 2 years ago
Have you ever been to China? You can find many people 190cm taller from Hangzhou and northwards. That is because they are descendants of Jurchens, and other northern Asian nomads who passed through or settled in those areas from long ago. Her description is very accurate. Xia dynasty may not be 100% proven, but there is a lot of evidence to support it. Look at the maps of early dynasties, they're all quite small and border Mongolia before they expanded eastward and southward.
NemSoha 2 years ago
You red the same history as I do,and there's no records of huns before their attacks againts chinese and the building of that huge defensive wall that made a lot of nomads to go to Europe.Like I said earlier,only those mummies with red hair are tall as 1.90M and had celtic ecosez clothes(clear sign,from Europe).Jurchens are tungusc and very small in height due to..genetics and low fat food;but in modern times everything is changed,food,leaving conditiones soo is posible to find tall guys
sorin1918 2 years ago
Huns were not an european people by the description of their contemporary writings and I'm refering to the hard core of the tribe not those that followed their lead pretending to be..huns.Practised savage and weird traditiones like the skull deformation..i remember reading something that described them "EGG HEADS".Also this about uniform empire is again wrong:Romans had a unified empire by one language,one law,one dominant culture..huns had the wide empty plain and many rebel nationes
sorin1918 2 years ago
I read before about the head elongation, but I never read exactly how many people or tribes did that. It seems it was not everyone, or not all period of time. There were people who were enslaved and forced to fight in the Hun armies, but according to ancient descriptions, they describe the Huns as being much different looking than the Romans, Goths, Slavs etc.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Ofcourse they were different,because they were savage even for those days.Not everybody had elongated head(only the lucky ones:))and also had another habit,to bide their nose so it would flaten their head to look more fierce.This is more the exotic stuff..but I don't think we'll ever know their culture or language wich is more atractive to me/hungarian claims are a bit wild considering how many tribes were in the Volga area ;I think turks have more rights over huns
sorin1918 2 years ago
Even in China some people today sleep on hard wooden beds as children to get flatter heads (in the back). I don't think savage is a good word, considering Romans killed in the Colosseum for sport. The Huns appeared in history much earlier than the Turks, and left by the time the Turks appeared during Tang dynasty (and got defeated and replaced by the Uighurs) The Huns introduced the nomad way of life to Turks and Mongolic peoples after they themselves learned it form Scythians.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Flat head!! In Europe we like dolicephalic heads,no?Anyway,savage is when you cut a head and use it as a cup,taking scalps to hang on the waist,head biding,cuts to the face for fierce look,sleping on the horse,sex on the horse(kidding here:)etcHuns are not older then turks(wich are mongolians with iranic mix)and Uighurs are turks.The nomadic life is older then homo sapiens,and the conditiones in Mongolia don't encurage an agricultural life for sure:)
sorin1918 2 years ago
I didn't say they were older, I said their empire and civilization was older, which is true. Although existing at the same time, the Huns established an empire first.
Uighurs were not part of the Turks. They defeated them and took over (then were defeated and replaced by Kyrgyz themselves).
Nomadic life is very old, but the specific way of nomadic life people in Central Asia live is what I am talking about, and their culture came from Scythians.
NemSoha 2 years ago
Uyghurs are a turkish folk and I'm not debating this anymore since is a known fact!Huns never had an empire in the traditional sence,but a bunch of tribes conquered and forced to give allegiance(man for future battles)and an annual sum of agricultural produce,precious metals and animals..what ever they possesd at the time!Now,romans realy had an empire with is suposed to bring forth..education for the elite,rules,laws,a common language..the shit >:))
sorin1918 2 years ago
You don't even know the difference between "turkish" and "turkic".
And yes, the Scythians influenced the Huns, who influenced the Turks as well as Mongols. The compound bow , for example, was learned somewhere...
NemSoha 2 years ago
Sorry,I was refering to that composite bow not the compound bow
sorin1918 2 years ago
Scythians never had a huge influence on the mongolians and turks..they were not bringing nothing new in a place where even today nomadic life is the only way of life.Actualy they were sacked out by asians very quick and kept as a side kick to future spoils..Even today,this iranic folk is small and insignificant..ossets in Caucasus and another group in Pamir..the ones that kept an european look I mean(like a part of the uyghurs)
sorin1918 2 years ago
The Uralic theory was created by Germans in the 19th century during the rise of nationalism (the same time Hitler's Aryan Race theory came about). It was used to justify the rule over Hungary by the Habsbergs. Linguistically there is not much more than several basic words and a general structural similarity...no more than Turkish and Mongolian are related. There is no anthropological, archaeological, or any other evidence, including written historical records to prove that theory.
NemSoha 2 years ago
There have been many essays and books written to disprove the theory, which isn't widely accepted today anymore except by a few stubborn people. Chinese scholars and even Mongolian believe that the Xiongnu migrated west to Hungary and today's Hungarians are their descendants. I bought some interesting books in China, but unfortunately there are no English translations available...perhaps I will work at it one day. What is interesting are the "Madjars" in Central Kazakhstan, whose DNA is more
NemSoha 2 years ago
similar to that of Magyars in Hungary than to the surrounding Kazakhs (there are a few publications of this genetic research done online...easy to find)
NemSoha 2 years ago
Theories are made to argue opon them.chinese do it to disprove the uighurs rights and why have you bought chinese writings:)) I agree hungarians have a mongolian-turkish component.I red about madjars and I don't know,they could have migrated in the hun times from Europe
sorin1918 2 years ago
Language studies are hard and open to interpretationes in the case of an agglutinative language like hungarian.But even an amateur can see the resemblens with finnish and estonian witch I heard and saw for myself last year.Estonians have a mild german sound in the language(and hot,blond girls:))
sorin1918 2 years ago
I havent read the whole convo about the language and etc topic, only some... Language similarities can be the result of trade, close livin areas etc, doesnt necessary mean genetical relations. Hungarians have nothing to do with the Finns genetically. Hungarian language has common words with turkish, farsi (persia), urdu (pakistan) and many other languages as well....
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
In the case of hungarians,would be a miracol to prove a genetic link to the northern Uralic group;It's enough to look back from the first Hungarian state to this day and see that magyar was a language imposed through school,administration and religion,many times by force;thats the reason slovakians and romanians hate you soo much.Those barrowings can be explain easily in many cases beeing an aglutinative tongue;the word making it's enough to see coincidence that are not there.
sorin1918 2 years ago
Also,ofcourse there's turkish words,because of the long tradition tide between magyar and turks(cumans,kazah) from the migration times.From the same time comes those few iranian words,when eastern Europe still had a schytian component(alans,sarmatians,jassy)but the main core is Uralic,as it was proved by scientist.
sorin1918 2 years ago
Nothing's been proven, that's why it's a "theory".
Again, no archaeological, anthropological, genetic evidence or anything else can prove it. It is a weak theory based solely on a few similar words and similar grammatical structure...that's all. Far more evidence refutes it than supports it.
xiaogoudelaohu 2 years ago
No evidence? Many chronicles talk about the Huns being Scythians, and the Magyar (Hungarian) people are Huns... Also there are a lot of archeological evidences, for example the gold stags found in Hungary and elsewhere. These stags are very very similar in looking, eventhough they were found far away from each other. Why? Because it comes from the same culture. We have legend about Hunor and Magyar going hunting and following the "Wonderous Stag"....
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
Boy,get your facts right..every nomad tribe coming from what is Ukraine today were called schytians,doesn't mean they were those iranic speaking tribes!Don't you understand nothing?..The stag is present in all of Europe,doesn't mean shit for evidence in a time that paganism was wide spread
sorin1918 2 years ago
Chronicles talk about it Huns being Schythians too... And they didint just do it randomly. Herodotos book 4. Gesta Hungarorum. Tarihi Ungurus (Turkish) and so on... All these talk about us being Scythians. Plus the archologocal evidence...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
@AlbeoAccipiter Genetic tests done on Hun graves from Egyin Gol showed the remains were 89% Mongoloid and 11% Caucasoid, showing they had mixed with Scythians before establishing their empire in northern China and Mongolia. It's not myth about Huns being Scythians, it's history
NemSoha 1 year ago
@NemSoha Genetic analysis showed graves in the Carpathian Basin (5 and 6th century after Christ), to the Western Huns / Avars / Hungarians were greatly in excess of 80% Caucasian / Iranian origin... This is shown in the "Mesopotamian" origin (even today)...
padre601 1 year ago
@padre601 Actually Gyula Laszlos research shows the graves to be mostly Onoghur, arriving much earlier than 896. Several other historical sources such as the Chronicon Pictum even put the Conquest around 700AD or even earlier. Surely some of the population was mixed, but definitely not a majority Caucasian.
NemSoha 1 year ago
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NemSoha 1 year ago
No evidence for the "Ugrian Theory", that is.
xiaogoudelaohu 2 years ago
The hate between Slovaks, Romanians and Hunagrians were forced on us. And by the way! We didint ask them to come to the Carpathian-Basin. We already had a Kingdom there for more than 1000 years, when they migrated where. Romanians came up north from Wallachiain large numbers. Then when the vlachs (romanians) came up north to works, we actually did help them. gave them work on the fields, allowed them to use their own language in their churches...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
Yeah right :)))))))) and hungarians were ancient sumerians lost in the frozen north,but found a miraculously empty land and settled those wondering vlachs and slovaks..:))))))) quite amusing,won't you say?See how I can invent stuff just like every hungarian today?
sorin1918 2 years ago
Just beacuse you acting like a smartass, facts speak for themselves...
AlbeoAccipiter 2 years ago
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AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
No, I havenot see that movie.
And sooner or later, you will know it is the best to be east asian.
see "The Reality of Human Races" "Dr. Philippe Rushton - The Latest Research on Race", you should know Huns and Turks are highly mixed with west people, but never forget who you are.
After 1700AD, the whites dominate this world, but we will get the domination position back because east asian are the top one.
washxh 3 years ago
Már bocs, de ez úgy baromság, ahogy van. Europid Hunok??? Hahaha! Leírásokból egyértelműen kiderül, hogy Attila tipikus alacsony mongoloid volt. Nem hogy, europid, de még turanid embertípusról sincs szó. Legvalószínűbb, hogy tipikus kelet ázsiai arca volt, pedig Attila az EURÓPAI(!) hunok vezetője volt. Mi, magyarok europidok vagyunk, és nincs szükségünk "gusztustalan","ronda", "160 centis" mongoloid ősökre. Ennyi az egész.
N1mrod07 3 years ago
Csak a tudomanytalan iromanyok mesejet bofogod ide...
AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
Nem böfögök semmilyen tudománytalan irománokat, az igazságot "böfögöm". Leírták, hogy kelet ázsiai kinézetű volt Attila.
N1mrod07 3 years ago
Nezzed meg Dr. Kiszely Istvan eloadasat amiben a mitokondrialis DNS vizsgalatokrol beszel, s a magyarok eredeterol... Az eloadas letoltheto a DOBOGOMMT(pont)HU oldalon a "letoltes" menubol...
AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
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AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
A mi nepcsoportjaink kozt is fellelheto bizonyos korokben a vagott szem... Szekelyek kozt is van... Az alfoldon is....Ezzel nem azt mondom, hogy azsiaiak vagyunk, hanem azt, hogy keveredtunk valamelyest veluk is valoszinusithetoen...
AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
"Leírták, hogy kelet ázsiai kinézetű volt Attila." mégis ki írta le a franciák vagy a románok?
sírok feltárásánál sose találtak 1 "mongoloid" jegyeket látszató koponyát vagy leírást sem, ezt mind a régi nyugati filmesek fantáziájában él csupán, a honok 1 része volt vágottszemű akik a keleti leigázott népek közül kerültek a soraikba.
hunwarrior87 3 years ago
ezek nem légbőlkapott információk, több külföldi hun-kutató is osztja ezt a véleményt.....
egy olasz kutató már egyenesen a kárpátmedence őslakóinak tart minket sőtt etruszk-magyar kapcsolatról is beszél.....
hunwarrior87 3 years ago
mivan tamás miért nem húzol el az országból a vérbe? menj a zsidóid közé palesztinába, sirasd a faladat!
PANNONcarpathius 2 years ago
3.Hun Empire are bigger than Han? haha.. man, you should know, Huns are nomadic nation, they goes everywhere if there are grass. Han was farmer nation, they have city, town... Han Empire used 400 years to crush the Huns Empire which has 400,000 cavalry.
washxh 3 years ago
Typo error? "Han Empire used '40' years to crush the Huns ...." -during Han wudi's reign ~ 2100 years ago.
hongnongren 2 years ago
OSSETIANS are SCHYTIANS...all of the SCHYTIANS(BULGARIANS-HUNGARIANS)have to support for our independence...long live all SCHYTIANS... FREE OSSETIA!!!
OSSETIANgorgoch 3 years ago
This girl knows nothing, god.. i feel sick.
1. xia is not a hun country, hun are sons of some xia people. when xia was defeated by shang. some xia people(just a few) escape to Mongolia.
2.Huns are not white, ok? this is fucking shit. God, when Huns was chase to west, maybe they have too few numbers and use some local white as some of their army, but you cannot say huns are white. white are some slaves
3. Huns Empire are not the biggest/powerful on that time, china is.
washxh 3 years ago
1 Xia is said even by some Chinese scholars to be this way, but also Xia is doubted to even have existed by some.
2 Agreed... perhaps it was mistranslated? It's always bothered me during that part when she says Europid too. Then again, in Chinese sources, words like "hong" dont mean red, it means brown, so the translation should not be literal for their physical appearances.
3 China, even Han Dynasty was only half the size of present day PRC, so it was smaller than the Hun empire.
xiaogoudelaohu 3 years ago
1.A few descent of xia come to north and become to Huns, then you say xia was established by Huns? are this girl stupid?
2.There are still many ancient Huns tombs in north china, how could this girl say they are white, god.
washxh 3 years ago
Some historians debate whether Xia was indeed a dynasty at all, so its quite mysterious.
As for them being white, of course they weren't, but I wonder If they are analyzing the ancient descriptions too much about them having fair skin, light hair, light eyes, etc. In the north, curly/wavy hair, white skin, blue/hazel eyes, etc. are not uncommon, yet Mongols, northern Chinese, Korean, etc. don't look white at all. These are just northern Asian genes. I also don't get the Europid thing she says
xiaogoudelaohu 3 years ago
I know why this girl want to say Huns are white. two reasons:
1.they think whites are better than east asians, so they can not believe east asian crush white.
2.Nowadays Hungary are white, but they also say they are sons of Huns, at the sametime, they do not want to be east asians, so the only way is say that Huns are white.. lol..
washxh 3 years ago
to all white here:
1. we east asians are seperate from you white 40000 years ago.
2. we are the top race in this planet with highest IQ.
3. we win all the wars and science to you white from 200BC to 1700AD. think about it why.
4. just because of china limit his mind and miss the industry develop, you white dominate for 300 years.
5. 300 years is long enough for white, it is time to hand in the No1 position to us east asian.
washxh 3 years ago
Those letters can also be found on arhecologial findings from the Pyramids in Bosnia... Findings from Etruscans... etc etc...
AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
Huns knew how to write. And the runes they used most likely are theirs, not taken from the Turks. Look at archeological evidences, like the disks from tataria (Tatarlaka)... Those are said to be around 6 or 7 thousands yrs old. So it shows people were living in the Carpathian Basin way before the textbooks teach us, and they had a great culture and were able to read/write.
AlbeoAccipiter 3 years ago
Wenn Attila sad I am Turk?He sad I am HUN!!!
cheniperl 3 years ago
That's right. Attila and the Huns settled in Hungary, not Turkey. I am so sick of these extreme Turkish nationalists spewing their propaganda left and right calling everyone Turkish. There were only 4,000 Ottoman Turks who settled in Anatolia, and made hardly any genetic impact there, thus Turkish today have nothing to do with Central Asians. They are mostly a mix of Armenian, Greek, Slav, and whoever else was living there at the time.
xiaogoudelaohu 3 years ago
She is Hungarian...feminine and very brave. Thank you.
Vezsu 3 years ago 3
Thank You albinobatman!
svaszon 3 years ago
Couple of groups of Hungarians today: MAGYAR, SZEKELY (Szekler), CSANGO...
This summer there is another KURULTAJ (Meeting of tribes...) in Hungary...
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A tribe from Kazakhstan is coming from Hungary which is named Madjar, pronounced same as MAGYAR which Hungarians call themselves...
albinobatman 3 years ago 3
Correction: "comming to Hungary..."
albinobatman 3 years ago
Kumanhan!
You said in one of your comments that turkish is related to sumerian. Maybe so, but if you look after IDA BOBULA's works, she also found a great amount of relation between sumerian and hungarian language!
albinobatman 3 years ago
Hungarians are nothing else than Turks with a little change in Language!Today Hungarians population is 10 million which is a joke!Turks population is 350 million!Turks had to be at least 600 million today!But because of the genocides made 1800-1950 from Russian,Greece and Serbs their number is only 350 million today!Hun spoke only Turkish!This Video tells not the truth!Magyars are pure Turks!There is no Hungarian people only Turks with a little changed Language!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
Sumerians were pure Turkish!Since 100 years it is clear that Sumerian were Turkish!Their race,Language clothes,Myths,traditions all pure Turkish!
Some funny people think that Serbs,Croats,Greece,Hungarians or Fins have their own culture?They are using Turkish traditon and dances!Today in Sumerian Language more than 1000 similar words were found with Turkish!All technologic words were Turkish!So keep on dreaming here!The world is hiding the truth about world history!Turkish world history!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
200 of those are basic words, hungarians has 5.000 sumerian basic words, see the diference. most of your people has been turkmenized by the mongol horde and altaic turkic languages has nothing to do with the ancient tur-ug turk word that means break away in sumerian and came when assyrians kicked out the sumerians. anyway its not used today probably because of the horde that plundered raped killed and spread chaos and want to make claim on whole peoples only because of one word.
JerjetjanyGergely 3 years ago
Read my text again!First of all 5000 Hungarian words in Sumerian is the biggest lie i heard!Hungarians langauge nearly all old words are Turkish!Amd there is no Hungarian race,your people today only 10 million!Turks today 350 million!Tukrs who changend their language: Germans,Englands,Russian,Japanese,Mexican,
Bulgarian,Fins,Hungarian,Syrian,80% of the Jews,40% Agyptians,all Kurds,50% Tunesians,Albans,Bosnians and .... list goes on!These and others have Turkish origins!
Kumanhan 3 years ago 2
Kumanhan 3 years ago 3
Think again!How can you say there are Hungarian people?In the last 2000 Years,"Hungarians" had no State,no invention,not conquered any lands?How can that be,if your such a great people and where are your numbers (Today 10 million)?
Turks on the other side in the last 2000 Years,conquered nearly every land on this Earth made the biggest invetions,like paper etc..In China ruled till yesterday,India till today,Iran till today,nearly every place till today,today Turks 350 million!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
Its really easy!Hungarians in old time were Turks,with the time their Turkish changed a bit,thats all!
In the last 4000 years in today Hungary,only Turks had a State: Kimmers,Scythians,Sarmats,Huns,Bulgars,
Alans,Kumans,Beceneks... so on so on!
Only the last 2000 Years:Huns,Bulgars, Alans,Avars,Kipcaks,Magyars,Kumans,Beceneks,
Selcuks,Ottoman,Golden Horde state,and others!Where are the "Ungarians"?In your today lands allways were Turks but where are the mighty,great "Hungarians"???
Kumanhan 3 years ago 2
Where did the people of the great Turkish states went?Where did the people of Kimmers, Huns,Scyths,Sarmats,Amazons,Thracians,Frigs,
Etruscan,Avars,Kumans,Alans,Almans,Germans,Gots,Saks,Beceneks,Kipcaks and other Turkish people went? NO WHERE,you call them today,Bosnian,Croat,Fin,Hungarian,Alban,
Macedon,German,English,France,Italian,of course not all of Europe has Turkish origins,BUT most of the Europeans have Turkish origins!Have a nice day!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
you should read some history, maybe start with the recent times (about Hungarian state and inventions, hmmm). your words are offensive and lack basis, hey. you try to turkize people by means of disrespect and gibberihistoric crap talk...
you should also watch this video before dissing. it's great that it has some english subtitles, for we all know english is turkish too...
gyudbal 3 years ago
I read a lot of history, but not that crap what you read!I watched this video,nothing special!Like allways what is turkish is showed like it belongs to someone else!Hungarian historians know very well that hungarians are turkish,but they cant say it in public its forbidden!It is also in Turkiye forbidden for a historian to say Scythians are turkish!The west dont want that!They want that the world beliefs in pseudo "indo-europeans" history!The biggest lie in world history!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
Most of the said things in this video are lies,like mongolian is closer to hunnish than turkish!West allways lie about history and fake things!Same is for the so called armenian genocide!All politics!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
You should read my writings carefuly!I dont say all europeans,i said most europeans!You can believe what you what,but fact is hungarians are turks!In your country today all of your old clothes your horse riding traditions your music,music instruments are pure turkish!Go ask your historians!
Kumanhan 3 years ago
They are a little, because while we had been invaded by you, "cousins"you took 2 million of us for slavery. My people built all the Northen part of Turkey, you knew us well, knew how good our peasants were in house building, so used them. And for everything else. The young boys became janicsars, leaders in your army, knowing their intelligence, bravery,used them, and you 'd never told them that they were Hungarian, you told them they were Turkish.
chiaro222 3 years ago
There are Hungarians in Africa who served there with the Turkish Army during Ottoman Empire. They still speak Hungarian today, they never returned home. I forget their name, but you can google it.
xiaogoudelaohu 3 years ago
Thanks, I will.
chiaro222 3 years ago
the ancient turk (tur-ug) and the today altaic turkic is two completely diferent langages. in reality it is Tur-ug which means away from sumeria and about sumeria, turks not only claim sumria but they claim people that invaded sumeria (so they where ethnics not main population), then they say they are sumerians becuse they had occupied but who havent? even the gutians (goths) has ruled sumeria 2100BC,
JerjetjanyGergely 3 years ago 3
the main sumerian that was forced away by the assyrians became tur-ug(turc,turk) the crown of king Geza received from the Byzantine Emperor bears the inscription as king over turks by byzantium. all hungarian kings has worn that crown except two. The Sumerian language shows a complete basic structural identity with the Magyar. Fourthy to sixty percent of the modern Magyar skulls are identical to the Sumerian skulls.
JerjetjanyGergely 3 years ago 2
Structural relationships exist between the Turkic and the Sumerian languages but at the same time similarities in vocabulary are minimal and is a sign that one has occupied the other at a time.
JerjetjanyGergely 3 years ago 2
AlexandruMaximusXVI)you speak BLA BLA BLA.bulgar is no a iranic word but Turkic,you no nothing realy nothing ,you write bulshit.look to the Avar Turks and you can see what they are and what proto bulgars are.and about boskurt mhp and gilgamish say it in English than can I understand too about your lies.
turania58 3 years ago
brother turania58 said that vikings and all pagans are turks because their use of kurgan, I hope one day to share kurkan with him real turkish style one day :D oh wow. No other graves is good enough than a turkish grave after this experience. now when he finally learned write they have invented writing to, my next projekt will be to stash up zyklon B,
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
sello1212 | June 23, 2008
hee hungarien gypsy.....fuck your big ass till sunrise and take a hike..otherwise U WILL BE DELETED
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
#87 - Most Responded (Today)
#2 - Most Responded (Today) - Education
turan is iranic word. read Gilgamesh!
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
viszont mi sem voltunk szentek :), és igaz, hogy "honfoglaláskor" fele arányba türk népek is jöttek
zentym 3 years ago
aval nem dicsekednék és honnan tudod hogy turk? turán az egy iráni szo. nézd Gilgamesh. leggtöbb turk itt politikai lobby a bozkurt mhp youngturksnak. ja bozkurt az egy kömuves rend, ugyan azok akik 1800as években irták át a magyar történelmet habszburgokal. cCc egyik jeluk, meg az a kézjel. nem fura hogy USAnak egyik kedvenc szövetséguk. Totál irányitás alat vannak. nagyon emlékeztetnek a crusadertube zsido lobbyra ami 600 emberböl áll it youtubon. ugyan ugy dolgoznak, crusadertube fizetve van.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
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Scythians and sarmatians have NOTHING to do with turkic tribes. They were many-more civilized and many more old.
HungarianScythianXP 3 years ago
De a honfoglalok fele-fele arányban voltak szkiták és türkök! Magyarország lakosságának 34% Turanoid.
RONGYOSGARDA 3 years ago
#2 - Most Responded (Today) - Education
Turán az Iran eredetu szo elöször is masodszor közép azsiát a mongolok törökitették és a ferfiakat lemészárolták, gyerekeket adoptálták a nöket megeröszakolták. példaul parancsot adtak hogy egy egész orszagot ami magyarokbol ált lemészaroljanak Dentu magyariát és egy hatalmas fejpiramist épitettek egyik városukbol aminek a Romának a méretével szokták mostanában a kutatok hasonlitani. törökök "már" több mint egy magyar beszédu nemzetet irtot ki.
HungarianScythianXP 3 years ago
you are real idiot gipsi,you no nothing more than BLA BLA BLA nothing more.TURANIA FOR EVER.
MAGYAR+TUROK=TURAN,
you cant change.and is not a progobanda idiot but proven real true history.luern real history.dot com with inexpensive full lie story.
turania58 3 years ago
Bulg is iranic word, means noble. In Sogdiana the name Bulgar is very popular. There is town called Kodzha Bulgar. There is also mountains Strandzha, cities Varna, mounts Shipka and an Madara village as in Bulgaria There is found an Madara horseman, ABSOLUTELY like the bulgarian one. Ive seen it! The biggest city of Sogdiana is called Bulkh in farsi Bolgh Also there is a lot of iranic words in nowadays bulgarian language.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
mostanság én is olvasok erről. Sajnos a mongolok, és önmagában a türkök valóban egy "olvasztós" erőszakosabb nép volt, de erőteljes volt a keveredés velük, és ezért rokon népek lettek. Viszont az alap mentalitás mostanság is kitűnik. A magyaroknak szinte mindig ilyen "liberál" beállítottságúak a kórhoz képest. A türk népeknél azért ez többnyire nem mondható el :)
zentym 3 years ago
Listen Turco-altaic doenmehs! Tell me when your civilization started? Stop with your fanatic prpaganda. Everyone knows, that your country is a country of fanatics. You say the etrusks, hitites, egyptians, Yamato, scythians, ugrofinns, sarmatians - all of them is originated from turkic. Shame on you!
HungarianScythianXP 3 years ago
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iran tribes had the word turan thousands of year before the word turk existed. unfortunately the mongol army raped and killed lots of tribes and made them turkish speaking in 11th century, death of thousand years old cultures. now turks call everything turk and even turkish speaking peoples is tired of turkey turks endless rants :D
HungarianScythianXP 3 years ago
if you say it is not right i can send you many proves,with non Turkic world fame history examination sites,if you say I will more I can send you the old proto Turkic scription with old Scythians and Etrusk scriptions you can equation,and if you say is not enough I send you old Turkic culture The (KURGAN)same culture with Summerians+Etrusk+Scythians+Tracian,evriting going to Turkic you can do nothig and Im olmost forget DNA bonen of Summerians and Etrusk Scytians equation with Turks,
turania58 3 years ago
ahahahaha yeah thats right. ataturk was a doenmeh, jewish descendant of false messiah zwi Mustafa Kemal was also Freemason. ahahahaha turks cant think clear so they make genocides instead. poor allies, armenia was once their biggest ally, look what they did ahahahahahaha
HungarianScythianXP 3 years ago
you cant be a magyar
turania58 3 years ago
if I was Romenian I will never speak or write about history.you romenians have gypsy,Italian,slavic,Tatar,Scytians=Magyar+Turkic.german,shame you romenians you have not your own history,but we Turks and Hungary have very old history Summerians,Etrusk,Tracian,Scythian,Hun,Avar,and rest of magnificent history,
turania58 3 years ago
and about your lies about my nation and Ataturk if you not real no the history shut up and luern more dont write nonsense.
turania58 3 years ago
AlexandruMaximusXVI)you write real nonsense I will not dicusion with you but you have no brain to luern real deep history from central asia we Turks were olways in anatolia the last Turkic grup from central asia from Oguz Turks they take it over from the other Turkic speaking people.and about word Turan coms from pesians it is mean land of(TUR)horse people from north the central asians the(TURKS)
turania58 3 years ago
Scythians and sarmatians have NOTHING to do with turkish altai tribes. They were many-more civilized and much much older. much of the today turkish nations where peoples raped by the turkish mongolian forces, the most slaves of the turks has became the most loyal and brainwashed ones. thousand years of genocides, thank you turania58 liars and opressors like you is not welcome in bulgaria and beyond, your country of today is built on lies by zwi jews like ataturk.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
another stupid they nows nothing about history.I have nothing to say to you stupids you unknowing you will keep caling same thing lurn before you speak shit,and about AttaTurk is Jewish?????first your kind people call us mongols and about Genocide now is Attaturk Jews?????what is next???
turania58 3 years ago
you have like 17 words for rape and killed 1.5 million poor armenians. when azerbadjan attacked armenia with modern army of 60.000 men and had tanks, aircraft and the armenians was 20.000 peasants with antique riffles, they not only crushed the turkish army but liberated Karabakh.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
ataturk non-muslim doenmeh, jewish descendant of 17th-century Jewish false messiah Sabbatai Tzwi (Zevi). the cruel dictator of Turkey, Mustafa Kemal was also Freemason. pasha was also doenmeh.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
iran tribes had the word turan thousands of year before the word turk existed. unfortunately the mongol army raped and killed lots of tribes and made them turkish speaking in 11th century, death of thousand years old cultures. now turks call everything turk and even turkish speaking peoples is tired of turkey turks endless rants.
AlexandruMaximusXVI 3 years ago
They were educated between the Turk tribes! Than German tribes or the Thracians. Do not forget it, that Türk, Sumér-Hurrian the continuation of a culture.
RONGYOSGARDA 3 years ago
turks did not have sumerian gods and the have fever sumerian words than romanians haves dacian, btw hungarian haves 5000+ words while turks have about 200.
Khorezmgoldenhorde 3 years ago
Szia! A magyar 2 millió szó és hang. Elamite-Sumer-hurrit-magyar-finnugor a sorrend. A türk a hurrianból ágazik le. A románok nem Dákok hanem Vlachok. Elszlávosodott latinizált Trákok , a mai Albániából.
RONGYOSGARDA 3 years ago
Nimrodnak volt két ikker fia, hunor meg magor. mindketten elvettek alán (örmény)feleségeket és a népuket egy szövetségben öszekadták. Attila a 33dik leszármazot nimrodnak. néhány Régi avar magyar Isteneink, Pan, Jász, Baal, +sok egyptomi isten meg a napisten. egyptomiaiakal a Ham vérvoalrol vagyunk kappcsolatban és találhata magyar törzs mindegyik észak afrikai országban. kb 5.000-20.000 személy szoktak lenni darabonként. ugyan igy találhat néhány középázsiai országban is magyar törzs.
Khorezmgoldenhorde 3 years ago 2
Az Alán nem indo-iráni? Te magyar vagy? Minden jót!
RONGYOSGARDA 3 years ago
Az alán 100% örmény és mai napokig tele van nimrod múemlékekel az országuk meg a régi teruletek ahonnan kiirtották a törökök öket. söt még erdélyben is volt nem rég három városuk ahol örmények laktak, biztos találsz oldalt ahol roluk irnak. még a madár is ami képviseli az örményeket nagyon emlékeztet a turul madárol, az egész örmény mentalitans nagyon emlékesztet a magyarol. az iráni kapcsolatunk kesöb jött.
Khorezmgoldenhorde 3 years ago 2
Éltünk a kaukázusban. Én keletebbre nem is nagyon tennék magyart. Az ural mellé pedig egyáltalán nem. Két aradi vértanunk is örmény volt. Ezt tudtad?
RONGYOSGARDA 3 years ago
zsoltfejedelem79) your absolutely correct.
turania58 3 years ago
This is because he is Scythian though to Magyar, Turk and Ugrian tribes joined. Got mixed.
zsoltfejedelem79 3 years ago
stupid Bulgar you have write about turkic poeple History about proto-Bulgars your, fascist Bulgarian Historic researchs say that they are iranian nation,Bulgars dont look as Iranian they are dark skin big eye and very hairy people but Ogur Turkic where Hunagrians and Bulgars and Most of Kipcak people be similar the oguz grup are the south grup of turkic for example Turkey,Turkmen,Azeri,
turania58 3 years ago
All folk himself decides what he should avow himself!
Many folk got mixed on the steppe. (Turk,scytian, Finno-Ugric). The language, reports nothing! DNA does not lie though. The Hungarians relatives Kyrgyz, but with the Turkishs not. All of them are two Turk folk though. We are not relatives with the Finns, with the Lapp(saami) yes. though both Finno-Ugric folk. Our relatives Khojant, Iskhasimi, Avarians. They Scythian folk.
zsoltfejedelem79 3 years ago
GREATHUNS
CHILDREN OF MU
FATHERS OF CIVILIZATION
We seldom realize for example, that our most private thoughts and emotions are not actually our own. For we think in terms of languages and images which we did not invent, but which we were given to us by our society. We copy emotional reactions from our parents....SOCIETY IS OUR EXTENDED MIND AND BADY!!!!!!
GREATHUNS 3 years ago
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Scythians and sarmatians have NOTHING to do with turkic tribes. They were many-more civilized and many more old.
ElvDark 3 years ago
what Scytians have nothing to do with Turkic???
I think you no nothing about History Scytians are Turkic people have nothing to do with Iranic people but yheyhave many iranic words,
Scytians Kurgan culture the clothes live styl evriting is Turkic,
how they look like,Cheecbones)Bratisval head ony Turkic people have that it is Turkic synbol,evriting is Turkic about Scythians they have nothing about iranic or other nation>SCYTIANS ARE TURKS.
turania58 3 years ago
Scythian civilization started near 3000BC. Can you tell me when the turkic one starts? Scythian language was avesta/sanskrit, which is also the language of the bulgars. It is prooved, that they came from north of Pamiro-Hindokoush, as the bulgars. Scythians are irano-speaking people as bulgars, croats and kurds. Please, stop with your propaganda. You made the hunns turkic, the ugro-finns turkic, and now you want to proove that scythians are also turkic tribe. Well, good luck!
ElvDark 3 years ago
Hungarians are scythians=iranic brothers of the bulgarians. We came from Sogdiana, Balh region, the scythians also.
ElvDark 3 years ago
ElvDark)Hungary are Turkic From Ogur same as proto Bulgars Hungars are Summerians>Etrusk>Akadians>Tracian>Scytians>Sarmatans>Huns>dont try to make them aryan it will not hapening make them dark iranic people we are Turanic poeple. we are TURANS not aryans.Turkic+Magyar=TURAN.
turania58 3 years ago
hahah you here again Aryan rascist,good luck with you,amd you iranic aryan poeple,
turania58 3 years ago
Turks have history in central asia about 16.000 years and stupid (ElvDark)the Scytians are 2500 years old
turania58 3 years ago
Listen you Turco-Altaic piece of sick pig! Tell me when your civilization started? Stop with your fanatic prpaganda. Everyone knows, that your country is a country of fanatics. You say the etrusks, hitites, egyptians, Yamato, scythians, ugrofinns, sarmatians - all of them is turkic. Shame on you!
ElvDark 3 years ago
elvdark)asholle I say Scytians Sarmatians Etrusk Summerians Akkadians Huns they are Turanic nation,Turanic means Uralic-Altaic-Tungustic.shame? way that I speek the true?I not arian rasist they says evriting is arian who is wite hehe.
turania58 3 years ago
does your mother drink yet?
zsoltfejedelem79 3 years ago
tell me about Sankrit is that iranic or old Turkic tell.
your indo-european rasist progobanda with full lie,it is proven with latest Historic exploration.oll lies and about indo-european go's to the end.
turania58 3 years ago
Bro YOU are the BEST! You tell the truth!!!!!
Sellos23 3 years ago
As I say, they came from the teritory, north of Sogdiana and Pamiro-Hundokoush, which is 10-20 000km away from the Western Siberia and Altai.
Look, I would not argue with you, becouse I can't even understand what you are saing. Just remember, that you cannot change the facts. SCYTHIANS ARE NOT TURKIC TRIBE!
ElvDark 3 years ago
you are real stupid you dont understan did you we are central asian people.you are writing about nonsens what a stupid kurd
turania58 3 years ago