Praeludium e allegro (Musis Sacrum 1 Oct 2006)

[CAviolinist]

gosh how old is he? that was absolutely astonishing

[Fatkidsaliva]

Very expressive playing for a kid this age I was suprised :D

[tkgdothwn1000]

iam prf, this boy tecknicl tone 99% perfect~~

[Lapsellinen]

too fast

[mangye]

Obviously there is a music taliban out there dictating what tempo should be played by a given piece. It is a pity that - not unlike the real taliban - they are not willing, or incapable, to give sound arguments for their judgements. It's just "too fast". Well, the excrement of a bull on laxatives is just "too fast".

[VIkIB97]

Bravo!!!

[Sibelius2000]

This is way too fast!

[ms0110]

This is not a practice session. He's performing.

[Sibelius2000]

I know, but it's just too fast!

[ms0110]

By whose standards? About 600 people in that hall obviously had no problem with it. And I'm convinced old Fritz himself wouldn't have minded. The piece allows one that much freedom. I've heard it played even faster.

[violistaluis]

muy mal

dis..

[CrazyJimKU]

hes really rushing the Allegro....well thats just my opinion.

[ms0110]

It's, like you more or less indicated, a matter of opion. Seems to me he is doing something with the music where the majority is following a treaded path. That is the problem with well known pieces: once a "standard" is set it becomes the holy scripture. I think the piece itself gives that much leeway. I'm sure Fritz doesn't mind.

[wakkiwak]

wow this is so amzing... it jus melts my heart hearing it

[violingeek2]

Wow....just close your eyes and let the music wash over you...

makes me shiver...

Great job!

[lhoover6up]

wow this little guy has got some real talent. he ripped it!

[lepamplemousse]

incroyable interprétation!!! Intervalles justissimes, et expressifs!!!, legato et vibrato au service de la musicalité!!!

On aimerait entendre ce jeune homme dans un enregistrement correct!!!

[Dogaradodia]

Bravo, Shin Sihan! That's what you call, "Twinkle, twinkle, little star." This piece can make you cry. Wonderful orchestral arrangement!

[emmacello]

why does everybody say "she", this is a BOY playing. With this piece he stand on a international concour for violoist under the twelve. There was a selection from 500 to 50, and he was by the 50 last one. Now he's 13 and plays much better than this.

[dredrawen]

he missed a note

[ms0110]

Well, if you know that much you could perhaps enlighten us and tell us which one and where? By the way, it has already been noticed that he played one wrong note. It that is what you are referring to your insight and observation equal the quality of your critizism: poor at best.

[normabaniqued]

everybody's arguing over that one wrong note that i didn't even hear! i'm envious to the musically gifted with ears which can still identify that one wrong note amidst the grandeur of this masterpiece marvelously played by a young boy! not to mention that i cried while listening to him play, it's like every note pierces through my heart ='c

bravo! you did a great job kid. keep on inspiring others. to his parents, take good care of your child. i wish i also had a son like him. shine on! :)

[Ruubjekoop]

Omg, he really is a talent!

A friend of mine had seen him playng at some concours, and told me how good he is, and it's true.

[NPstormbringer]

Eey Shin :P

Je hebt al veel leuke berichtjes :D

Goed hoor...

Maarya, Laterzz..

gr Nevin

[ChibiSilent16]

Wow, he's pretty much the essence of awesome and win. o_o Child prodigy in the making. XD

[Zhou9]

One of the best interpretations on YouTube.

[xmissnina]

thats a lotta power in a tiny kid! Loved this performance!

[RavenStarZSO]

This kid has some major talent =D. He is sooooo musical and his vibrato is so amazing O.O I hope that when I finish working on this piece I'm that goood. Since I'm 14, its nice to watch ppl who r close to my age play to see what they felt and how they interpreted the piece =).

[bananapark14]

totally totally awesome!! i'm learning this piece right now and it's a lot of help listening and seeing how others play it.

=)

[charrogent]

What a your virtuoso! His interpretation is very favorable......

[elinlamasbuena]

awesome

[takamori400]

My son learned from his performance of this video. Thnaks for posting! I like his interpretation. We listened so many different ones, but I like this one is best. Only 11 years old, that's wonderful!

[yogurt3000]

What the typographically challenged "paulscandyshop" means by "in a different key" and "weird notes" is a lone G# in the solo violin part, in the recitative of the praeludium. The recording is indeed in e minor.

[nuckles007]

this kids freaking awesome

[paulscandyshop]

oh by the way this kid's verison of allegro an dperuleium is ina different key mopst players ar eused too so some notes are a liitle weird

[mangye]

Any idea which key? It sounds like one has the knowledge but it's pretty meaningless without any specification, don't you think? BTW, if you're 11 and you are given this piece, that you even never have heard perform, to study and you can play it like this in front of a paying audience of 600 plus after 5 months, with one wrong note, then you must have some musical insight, don't you think?

[lizaprettyviolin]

that's in E minor

[mangye]

I know the score indicates E minor, but paulscandyshop states that he's playing in a different key, then I wondered which key he's hearing.

[andrewquah]

The recording is definitely in e minor (as written in the score).

[mangye]

Oh, and he did this with a full school program and the other stuff he had to do for the violin: such as scales, etudes, you name it.

[paulscandyshop]

best!

[papatai]

omg, amazing! that kid has seriously got a bright future ahead of him.

[independentxoxo]

holy sh!t!!! how old is his kid?..amazing!

[beanbag337]

That kid is my hero. :) I have been studying violin since I was 5. I worked on this piece when I was 16! Of course I never have really applied myself or taken violin too seriously...this kid certainly has!

[leehr]

Be more specific?...Where exactly?

[byngrepresent]

lol some really weird notes every now and then...for example in the andante part he played in a major key.

[dsumhank]

go watch the praeludium i posted..

good sound quality and intonation!

[violinping]

just a few intonations problems, but overall really good ! I really enjoyed his playing. this is one of my favorite to play. but this kid was 11 in the video, i was playing marry had a little lamb at 11. he's amazing.

[haixiang]

love the phrasings, great tone!

so cute!

[sellerofdreams]

He plays very well for his age and his intonation is quite good. The wrong note was pretty obvious but it was still an excellent performance :)

[siliwen]

man...another asian kid with parents who deprive him of a life...

[mangye]

You jump to conclusions without knowing anything. Yes, he has to put in a lot of time to attain this level, but however much pressure you put on a kid you can't make him do this against his will. Moreover, define life. Watching TV all day? Goofing through school and ending up a looser? Even if he never gets to be a violinist no one can take away the experiences he has had, nor the thrill of being able to create something beautiful for yourself and others.

[leehr]

Two fallacious assumptions are made here: 1.violin playing, or music making in general, isn't fun 2. parents (can) force their children to become proficient on the violin. As for the first., the one very important condition to be able to play the violin at all is to enjoy it.

[leehr]

As to the second; what would be the motive of the parents to even try to force their kids? Ambition? For what? Success? Wouldn't be better then to force the kids to become good at baseball or football? Either that or become a wizzkid?

[leehr]

This is the deal: the violin takes a tremendous amount of money, time and dedication from the parents. The material returns for these investments are at best very, very dubious. As for the chances of success. It is a matter of simple math: how many kids are learning to play the violin? Millions, for sure? How many top violinists are there? Twenty at most. How many non-soloists are making a decent living out of the violin? My guess, less than a million. You figure out the odds.

[channel49]

stfu, stop talking trash.

[commandercool069]

how old is that kid?

[andychou]

ha.. the only thing i wanna say is.. "at the first note of allegro part, i think i was doing up bow". hahaha.. :D :D :D

[leehr]

I still don't agree. On review I noticed one note too low in the double stops of the allegro. If you screen this life performance you will find a few more, perhaps. But if you analyze the life performances of violinists you'll also catch a few off notes. Even Vengerov has been known to be off, Very rarely, but still.. And so it goes for the ones you mentioned as well. Yes, even the great Heifetz. It is one of the things a violionist just has to keep on perfecting and will never get perfect

[acasino]

Tengo el video del concierto de Tchaicovsky en una actuación en vivo de Zimmerman /Maezel. He escuchado este video cientos de veces, y no encontré jamás una sola nota desafinada ni un sólo golpe de arco "sucio". Desde luego, todos los instrumentistas, por excelentes que sean, pueden tener un ocasional accidente. Pero en el caso de este joven de 11 años, creo que se trata de una falta de justeza general, y no de meros accidentes ocasionales.

[leehr]

I have asked a professor of the violin at the Royal Conservatory of The Hague to take a listen to avoid a yes-no discussion. And she too disagrees with you in this. Of course he is not to be compared to the great violinists but as far as she is concerned there is not much wrong with his intonation. Certainly not in a general kind of way, as I understand you stated. So it's a matter of opinion and the only way to be sure is to take an electronic measurement.

[acasino]

Considerando la edad del ejecutante, es una muy buena interpretación. Sin embargo, deberá ajustar su afinación (que es dudosa en muchas partes)y perfeccionar la técnica del manejo del arco.

[leehr]

I beg to differ on the intonation part. Considering the fact that no violinist has a perfect intonation all the time (it is just impossible humanly speaking) I think there wasn't much wrong with the intonation. I agree he needs to work on his bowing technique. And, yes, there was that one wrong note. But who cares? The public obviously didn't.

[acasino]

La nota desafinada inicial no es la única. Hay otras imprecisiones que no pueden considerarse un traspié ocasional. Por ejemplo, en las dobles cuerdas del allegro también se registran desafinaciones. En cuanto a que no haya violinistas con perfecta afinación,he esuchado personalmente a varios de ellos. Podría mencionar muchos, pero me limito a los ejemplos de: Heifetz, Zimmerman,Franchescati,Ricci y Zsering.

[okikoreagurl]

He's good =D. Just a wrong note in the beginning but I'm pretty sure the audience probably didn't know.

[andychou]

which note? i don't think so. i have the music sheet, and i have listened to this piece for at least 1000 times :D

[stuckinsidemymind]

At the Andante the second or third measure he plays a g sharp instead of a g i think.

[zepiroth76]

wow that kid is amazing.

looks like he's going to rip his violin at the 5:30 mark though...

[andychou]

my favorite piece :P

[imadeulol]

Thats nice! im learning how to play it but it takes a long time to learn it since its college lvl music.

Good Job!

[andychou]

it's a performance level piece, i think :) i've got a lot of different version of this piece, (including Itzhak Perlman, Midori and Joshua Bell)

If you are learning this piece, and you'd like to listen to this pieces by others, i could send you the music.

[bbb222bbb]

hi

i love this song. can you send me the other variations. thanks

[LoquaxSum]

Dito that! Could you send some to me too?

[zyloh89]

can i have the other performances of this piece? thank you so much! i'm learning it now, and i'm far older than he is :) i would like to listen more :) and this boy is just plain good =)

[1408CM]

try valerie kim

[ms0110]

I did listen to Valerie. No doubt she's talented but she definitely is not in his league. She had not mastered the piece yet: technically nor musically.She should not have been given this piece yet.

[1408CM]

I know, you are right. I said "try", just to compare....

I've seen most of the Valerie-videos; she has been given a lot of pieces she shouldn't play yet. She's very showy, perhaps this covers up her technique. When you read all the comments.....I don't think most of the people know what they are talking about.

I'm sure Sihan is one of the best in his league.

[ms0110]

It's a pity really, because she does have quality. This way, however, I think it's going to waste. That goes to show how important a good teacher is.

[1408CM]

Yes she indeed has quality, but everyone (read the comments) talks about "prodigy". I think she needs to practice etudes, scales and less difficult pieces first. A really good teacher knows this. Have you heard her play Zigeunerweisen? Her intonation is not how it should be. I don't understand her teacher, does he/she want to show off with her?

[maestrobaton]

Yes I went back andnd watched several of Valerie's performance actually... And SHE IS A PRODIGY! She doesn't have perfect intonation so as everybody here, but she does have quality that other kids RARELY HAVE. if you think she's not special, you wouldn't mention Valerie on other people's site. It's a shame you have to put somebody down to make someone else look better... :p

[ms0110]

Nobody is putting anybody down. It has already been acknowledged that she has quality but I question the decision of her teacher(s) to give her pieces she is technically nor musically mature enough to play. And it cannot be denied that she has to work on the basics: scales and etudes.

[etawakimasi]

i have a friend who can play this song but he is nearly 5 years older and he started at the age of 2

amazing kid

he plays with emotions and nearly flawless technique for a 11 year old good job

[waistoi]

Very good kid!

[silentsteps]

....Wow. amazing.