ya but slavery, with full respect to african american people, was not fueled by culture, infact, those african americans (of that time) did not have the education and tools that the Arabs have today. Look how many Doctors and engineers are there just in America. Look at cultures of egypt, UAE, Lebanon, and the like (although they had wars). Bitterness will have a major effect when it happens to people of ability. So I approve your message, but in comparison, the effect will be greater....peace..
I guess the question I have is, how far back do you have to go to correct injustices of our fathers. Does the US need to give back all the land to the Native Americans.
How about payback for slavery, etc.
I mean at some point the jews lived in israel and were driven out. Should the children of those people admit their mistakes and say oh sorry we drove you out - here's your land back.
If I thought that giving America back to the Indians would improve prospects for world peace and progress, I would be for it, but I think the opposite would be the case and even the Indians would suffer greatly. In distinction, if the West and Israel continue to make Palestinians pay for what Germans did to Jews, world peace will continue to be threatened -- ultimately to a point where people in Israel (Jews and non-Jews) will suffer catastrophically ... as will most people around the world.
That was very hard to listen to because it was contrary to anything I had heard. Very enlightening and something to think about. And in many ways I agree.
Interesting. I doubt it would ever happen. Would that we could return to the past and put it right before it went wrong. I do not believe the Jews and the Muslims will ever be at peace with one another. They are all blinded by their ridiculous beliefs and unwilling to listen to reason (see Uziyahu as an example of that kind of idiocy). If we were to do that, the Israelis would resist militarily.
You're using a very simple argument to resolve a very complicated issue. Jews and Muslims are both very complex groups as are Israel and the Palestinians. If you had one iota of knowledge, you would understand that.
2. Register/Detain all citizens,move them out of there homes,kill anything alive that remained, re-build the town to a acceptable level, enclose it, guard the fence to keep the Insurgents out for good. Allow Govt&Police to take over.
I think the crisis in the middle-east must be solved by the people in the middle-east.
In the beginning the situation was caused by wrong policys of the west, but a solution from the outside probably won´t be accepted by the people in the middle-east.
Only through their own ideas and achivements will they regain a healthy selfconfidence some seem to lack today.
This guy is right... but what he proposes has less than a snow-balls chance in hell of coming true. But its refreshing to hear such a bold vision... But:"Ending Israel"... Um... Gee, That kind of seems extremely unlikely.
Got a better idea, genius. Undo the damage that has been done to Jews by the Romans (in other words, your fellow gentiles) and let the Jews have their Land back. Make Muslims practice what they preach and give hospitality to their Arab brothers! If you think Muslims won't keep raising the bar, you're a moron. Talk to Charlemagne!
John Hartung reveals himself as a slimey "intellectual" anti-Semite on one of his websites.
I would not trust this man.
MojaveViper29 2 years ago
John Hartung for President!
akkitrah 3 years ago
ya but slavery, with full respect to african american people, was not fueled by culture, infact, those african americans (of that time) did not have the education and tools that the Arabs have today. Look how many Doctors and engineers are there just in America. Look at cultures of egypt, UAE, Lebanon, and the like (although they had wars). Bitterness will have a major effect when it happens to people of ability. So I approve your message, but in comparison, the effect will be greater....peace..
usaleb 3 years ago
Zionist.The Jews are Gods chosen people, therefore the Christians have to protect them.
diggeraz 3 years ago
I guess the question I have is, how far back do you have to go to correct injustices of our fathers. Does the US need to give back all the land to the Native Americans.
How about payback for slavery, etc.
I mean at some point the jews lived in israel and were driven out. Should the children of those people admit their mistakes and say oh sorry we drove you out - here's your land back.
400 years from now is the solution the same?
or do you just say - get over it!
fatatheist 4 years ago
If I thought that giving America back to the Indians would improve prospects for world peace and progress, I would be for it, but I think the opposite would be the case and even the Indians would suffer greatly. In distinction, if the West and Israel continue to make Palestinians pay for what Germans did to Jews, world peace will continue to be threatened -- ultimately to a point where people in Israel (Jews and non-Jews) will suffer catastrophically ... as will most people around the world.
johnhartung2 4 years ago
"Jews that choose to stay...." Israel is made up of refugees driven from the Arab and Islamic land.
Hartung supports anti-Jewish ethnic cleansing.
His other sites reveal his ideological anti-Semitism.
Typical far left bullshit.
MojaveViper29 2 years ago
@johnhartung2
And I suppose you could suggest a better place for a Jewish state? Perhaps Uganda or the Australian desert?
bariguy87 1 month ago
That was very hard to listen to because it was contrary to anything I had heard. Very enlightening and something to think about. And in many ways I agree.
fatatheist 4 years ago
Interesting. I doubt it would ever happen. Would that we could return to the past and put it right before it went wrong. I do not believe the Jews and the Muslims will ever be at peace with one another. They are all blinded by their ridiculous beliefs and unwilling to listen to reason (see Uziyahu as an example of that kind of idiocy). If we were to do that, the Israelis would resist militarily.
wanderingskeptic 4 years ago
@wanderingskeptic
You're using a very simple argument to resolve a very complicated issue. Jews and Muslims are both very complex groups as are Israel and the Palestinians. If you had one iota of knowledge, you would understand that.
bariguy87 1 month ago
FIX Iraq:
1. Divide into the two Majority Sects.
2. Register/Detain all citizens,move them out of there homes,kill anything alive that remained, re-build the town to a acceptable level, enclose it, guard the fence to keep the Insurgents out for good. Allow Govt&Police to take over.
hondosan0 4 years ago
I think the crisis in the middle-east must be solved by the people in the middle-east.
In the beginning the situation was caused by wrong policys of the west, but a solution from the outside probably won´t be accepted by the people in the middle-east.
Only through their own ideas and achivements will they regain a healthy selfconfidence some seem to lack today.
DeletedDelusion 4 years ago
Your Ignorance amazes me!
inUTUBEitrust 4 years ago
You are an amazing mind..
cyberhacker665 4 years ago
This guy is right... but what he proposes has less than a snow-balls chance in hell of coming true. But its refreshing to hear such a bold vision... But:"Ending Israel"... Um... Gee, That kind of seems extremely unlikely.
receptive 5 years ago
Wow! You are an Idiot!
americanpatriotx1 5 years ago
Boy, you're really enjoying repeating the Iranian leader's straw-man argument, aren't you?
Uziyahu 5 years ago
Got a better idea, genius. Undo the damage that has been done to Jews by the Romans (in other words, your fellow gentiles) and let the Jews have their Land back. Make Muslims practice what they preach and give hospitality to their Arab brothers! If you think Muslims won't keep raising the bar, you're a moron. Talk to Charlemagne!
Uziyahu 5 years ago