LCA has taken 25 years for its development and it still not ready to induct. The Tejas was supposed to have replaced the Mig 21s, MiG23s and MiG27s 20 years ago. The Tejas has yet to reach production status.Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of those are failed. Difficulties with flight controls & power plant continues to be plagued with technical difficulties, the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests performed at a Russian base.
ADA has taken v.long to develop the LCA. A 25years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic.IAF was never enthusiastic about inducting LCA.The aircraft's combat performance was dismal and so was its weapon load and Engine problem.Its high pressure hydraulic system was prone to frequent failures and its engine & a fly-by-wire system has serious defects. During its prototype tests the LCA prototypes were grounded for many months on many occasions.It has failed in many flight tests.
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years. But IAF can use this failed experience in future & can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
India has become such a country, whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india has inducted LCA in IAF in hurry even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE.
IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability even lower then MiG21. India is repeating the same story of arjun and murat.
LCA is not 4Generation aircraft.LCA is Mig-21+ said by current Indian airforce chief. He further said that "LCA is a learning experience for IAF and the mark1 is not combat worthy". LCA engine is underpowered and yet to achieve FOC and first squadron will be completed by 2015/16. Similarly LCA mark2 squadron will be completed by 2020/22 and after this FOC and LCA mark 2 performances will be same as MiG21 bison and MiG21 bison is not a bad aircraft.
@Visscarionovich: MiG-21+.. MiG-21+..! Have the PAC loosers even come close to making an indigenous aircraft close to at least the MiG-15?? Shit Talk!!
@jobjed: In the same way PAF is a masterpiece when compared to PLAAF!! Even China is not ready to induct it!! No proper engine, no one knows about how shameless its performance is, already one crashed, U r inducting it coz it is ur fleet is redundant and u have no other choice, It is PAF which has inducted it as a face saver!! There is no proper tech used!! Old style Metal Plane with Chinese Avionics which are reverse engineered!! And PAC have made the effort to paint it!! What a waste!!
The Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project was sanctioned in 1982 with a budget of Rs560 crore to develop a state-of-the-art fighter aircraft to replace IAF's MiG-21 fighters.Close to Rs15,000 crore have since been spent but the aircraft still remains under development even after its induction. It is currently being inducted with a substitute engine (F404-GE-IN20) but IAF is still not happy with it. IAF is planning to us it a trainer aircraft in IAF due to its limited capabilities.
LCA is 4.5 gen fighter .... the only problem faced by LCA is its engine... it's not as per requirement..... it uses composites material but still slightly heavy then estimated weight. A new engine is on way for which LCA has to be redesign. Furthermore it's design has one serious problem that it can't take out more than +6g turn..... weapon load is 4000kg but still can't pull a full weight..... some where near 2020 it will be fully ready as 4.5 gen fighter.
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@sadhaklal actually he is referring to Muslims ..the mogul emperors that ruled in India..search for zaid hamid ..he is Pakistan 's one of the most Muslim extremist speaker ..he teaches them all this nonsense stuff .....actually mughals ruled in india from 1500 to 1800 roughly..(actually 1700 cos empire disintegrated after aurangzeb's death)
The LCA programme’s limited production & 20 aircraft IAF has ordered will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines.Though this engine has Digital Engine Control, these are not be able to generate required thrust for LCA specially at sea/low level. Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for buying advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF due to it v.limited operational capabilities as fighter.
Congratulation to IAF on induction of LCA. But now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success and some want to produce despite its drawbacks and just use it as a point defence fighter like the MiG-21 (which it is suppose to replace).
Now that would be a achievement, producing a 1960´s MiG-21 kind of fighter in 2015.
This is the fact that Bharat is the only country of its size that is unable to produce aircraft, missiles or choppers. It has had to purchase most of its arms from Russia After three decade of design and development, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. (As LCA is inducted with number of issues)
The JF-17 is much better than the MiG-21 for sure, it is a Mirage 2000-F-16A type, now they are improving it, but certainly is a match for aircraft like the F-16, MiG29, Mirage 2000.
DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
LCA is a learning experience for IAF & an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations & Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.v.limited & IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is tested,multirole,very handy, more maneuverable and decent aircraft it its price.
bunch of impatient guys ... we are making a 4th generation plane here not a simple cycle ...use your mind ...see the aspect of engineering...making a aircraft is not a peace of cake specially when 50 % of your crew member are illiterate (reservation )...it needs a series of developments..
this is just beginning...
"india and russia are making a fifth generation aircraft design is based on tejas"up to 2016 we will hv more than 250 5th gen plane...
fucked up govt has raped Indian Airlines limited by doling out licence to private operators thus making private operator as well as Indian airlines sick .These guys had they given licence to Mahidras ,RIL,TATA to manufacture fighters aircraft both for export as well as internal consumption these guys by now would have flooded the three forces AF,NAVY,ARMY with choices-tic fighter aircraft plus the country would have earned good export revenue from aircraft business by private manufacturer.
i just want to tell all the people watching this video that before writing any thing about this aircraft check out wiki on tejas u will get all ur answers about this fighter nd its power.
another thing is that this aircraft takes much time to develop becoz of the sanctions imposed by US on india if that was not imposed so it will be inducted before 2005 so i just want to tell all peoplethat check on wiki about the airfcraft nd then think about it.
Congratulation to IAF on induction of LCA. But now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success and some want to produce despite its drawbacks and just use it as a point defense fighter like the MiG-21 (which it is suppose to replace). Now that would be a achievement, producing a 1960´s MiG-21 kind of fighter in 2015.
@ImFlyingEagle: I'd rather have these rather than getting Joint Failures( catch my drift?) in charity anyday.
Anyways we have a lot of Sukhois, getting a lot of Rafales(or Eurofighters), have our FGFA program(nearing completion)......we are pretty safe in air power department i believe, better than clinging on to 30 year old f-16s though just cause no one wants to sell us anything......
@AmericanRaptor1 Not bad for first effort , India will learn from this & produce much better Fighters in future.
India is not America , India doesn't have experience of making fighters like west country's & neither going to war with every other possible nation on the planet earth like America does which drives Defense industry.
The LCA programme’s limited series production of 20 aircraft will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines.Though these engines have Full Authority Digital Engine Control, longer life and hot-end components, these are not be able to generate a good thrust for LCA specially at sea/low level.Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for busing advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF due to it limited capabilities as fighter.
LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price which (LCA) is good for nothing!!!!
@democracyindia2 what middle class, dont you check the state, 80% are below poverty line (Worse condition) according to europing standards, and only 5 % affords the life luxury which is average in western life
shiv u and that anup and all those benis madarjaat are numer one pimps of ur morther and sisters.bhosadi de teri amma di gand vich anaconda aur phudi vich gadhe da lun.u mother fukers bharat rat shit walon randiyon di auladon.cow pee drinkers,ma de laudon.u wont undertstand punjabi so get all this translated on ur bharat ratshit.u aboriginal south indian kala dravidian kanadiga monkey.
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years. But IAF can use this experience in future can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
@Howard0Hughes According to an IAF source associated with the long-delayed fighter program,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Performance specifications that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has not been able to attain include sustained turn rate, speed at low altitude, angle of attack and certain weapon delivery profiles.Exactly how far off the performance is from the specification remains classified.
@Howard0Hughes Haha well said but no its not that bad.....It did not fulfill IAF's criteria because its engine develop less thrust. Mark II version will have General Electric F414-GE-INS6 engine and a better radar, they won't produce more than 48 Mark-I LCA. I think after full evolution they will get a mean and very capable machine.
I blatant obvious, but: India has the second largest population in the world. Per person India's worldwide ranking is along those of Vietnam and Philippines, in human development behind Botswana. The gap between the rich and poor are gigantic and growing. Seven Indians on the Forbes list have a combined worth equivalent to a tenth of the GDP in a country where a billion people live on under $1.25 a day. Steady GDP growth yes, but how about inflation? The current growth is 7,4%, inflation 10.9%.
Actually Su 30MKI was a very sensible project. Sukhoi designers did their magic with the plane and tailor made it to Indian specifications, integrated assorted Indian systems and avionics into it and added some French and Israeli goodies for good measure. A very good plane delivered on time, on budget and in quantities. The same can not be said abaut LCA
@knutgordon i even doubt about Sukhoi, its waste of money, who would attack India which is Nuclear Power, i think project like tejas have been worked out well, corruption is covered up, same failure as Arjun Tank, spend on poor
You do know what purchasing power parity measures (or rather do not) ? Internationally, an income of less than $1 per day per head of purchasing power parity is defined as extreme poverty. By this estimate, about 40% percent of Indians are extremely poor, This estimate is accepted by the government of India. Still not poor enough for you? What abaut your own governments rural poverty threshold of 12 rupees per day (approximately $0.25) Guess the % of people below that?
It would have been wiser to swallow national pride and develop a derivate of an existing engine together with the manufacturer, instead of starting from scratch with little to no prior design experience. The engine has been in the design phase for decades, by now being substituted by two generations foreign engines, and with untold millions spent on something that is of no practical use for the Indian Air Force and likely will never be.
The 11'th largest economy in the world by nominal GDP, and huge masses of poverty ridden citizens, massive infrastructure and corruption problems and a enormous waste of human potential. As of 2005, according to World Bank statistics, 75.6% of the population lived on less than $2 a day and the proportion of underweight and malnourished children was nearly double that of Sub-Saharan Africa. Its less abaut being in position to breast thump, much more abaut the chosen priorities.
The Kaveri project has been going on since the 80's with no signs to reach production status, Personally, I would not be surprised if a decade from now the Kaveri is still not ready nor making the required thrust necessary to power the LCA . How long can such a project go on before one can call it a failure ?
I just can't imagine where India and Indians will be in next 10 yrs when these initial Research and Development reach their mature stage. Remember guys, these might seems primitive but is the base or foundation for the next smarter generation of India. The way parents are teaching their Kids in metro right now is going to create super smart kids. It was just 10-15 years ago when things started. Look where we are. We have our flag on the moon, we found water on the moon. Some day we will go there
The Moon? Thats so 1969! Looks like India and Pakistan are now officially in the first man on moon race. How one has the audacity to spend so much money on a pointless and pure ego boasting "Yes, we can" prestige exercise such as this while the vast majority of the population live the way they do is beyond me.
I live just a mile away from this runway. They just took off (about 10 minutes ago). The test it 24/7. Our area has DRDO,NAL,HAL, ISRO, BEML etc etc etc. Its Murugeshpalya Bangalore. I flat is 20 meters away from ISRO compound wall. I am so lucky....I think Bangalore is the only city which has all the Government Offices and labs. Don't know about other Super Ultra Metros like Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta, Chennai. Any comments...
gud job dne by hal, now ADA is working on amca, what india need is an anathor company for avionics this will inc. competition and will also avoid lateness, thats why america and russia are developing indiginous aircrafts quickly cause there is competition btween sukhoi-mig and lockheed martin-boeing
The LCA programme’s limited series production and the 20 aircraft the IAF has ordered will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines. Though these engines have Full Authority Digital Engine Control, longer life and hot-end components, these are not be able to generate a good thrust for LCA specially at sea level. Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for busing advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF.
IAF and the critiques should shut the hell up,this was created to replace the Mig-21 and Gnat! The IAF asked for an new generation aircraft that resembled the GNAT in its operational capabilities! We got something far better and now we need to iron out the chinks during operationilization like everyone else does! The Mark-2 would be much better and more than good enough for us. If IAF could shot down Sabers with Gnats in the 70s we could do much better with LCA against JF-17 bundher! :D
congress is yet to bring out someone who's even 1/8th as good a leader as Narendra Modi, for example. All congress brings out are Adharmic, highly corrupt crooks and thugs whose sole aim is to leech as much from Bharat as possible to transfer to their accounts in the Swiss Bank.
Tejas is looking to be a true, world class fighter jet.
However, I'd like to remind all my brothers and sisters from Bharat that had BJP been in power, none of these shortcomings would have happened. The extreme incompetence of congress is the main reason (just like with all of Bharat's problems) for the Tejas having problems. If you love your nation and want it restored to it's former Vedic glory, we need to bring BJP to power.
As for the Tejas, I would like to ask my pakistani and chinese-in-disguise brothers and sisters to conduct more research.
The Tejas has reached mach 1.6 numerous times, and this is without the recent improvements such as the F404 engine. The improvements will give the Tejas 10kN more thrust, the weight reduction of approximately ~700kg will also help with the performance.
I would also like to remind the pakistanis that they are yet to come up with anything indigenous that's half decent.
I would like to remind all the anti-Bharat people here who are trying to spread pessimism that, as with every nation, Bharat too will have it's share of shortcomings, however, you can be sure that no amount of chinese and pakistani propaganda can bring Bharat down, it hasn't for 1.97 billion years and it won't in the future.
when a country is tryin to become a economic power, there will be some jealousy in neighbours, bt after some time, they all r gonna accept d fact india has a lot of potential, dis is too all d haters!!
It will be more advanced than a ton of other over-priced and over-hyped junk out there when its inducted into the IAF. Most of what is masquerading as state-of-the-art planes by foreign countries is yesterday's technology.
This initial success of Tejas can give us a reason to smile,but not to jump with joy.IAF has said they intend to carry out some more tests & it remains doubtful if the Tejas will actually fulfil the role it was built for:to replace the ageing MiGs.A reality check reveals some sobering facts.For instance,the LCA has been in the making for some 30 years.The initial budget was Rs560 crore;this spiralled to over Rs15,000 crore & 40% of the components are imported,including the all-important engine.
america basically stole advanced aircraft designs from the germans after ww2 and they reworked them as a result came up with b2 and f117 so originally it was stolen from the germans should get credit for these designs so if germany would have won the war these aircraft would've been theirs , but nonetheless americans have proved that they are the best at stealing classfied info so thumbs up for them and keep it up if u can cause in these tough times its more harder to steal such info
f 117 was brought down in eastern europe and it claimed to have the best avionics and stealth and so on blah blah . So doe the raptor and Joint SF but still despite their '5th - gen claimes' these babies are easily detectable by advanced radars made in russia or elsewhere so its not much of a difference and by the way tejas MK-2 will be availaible soon which will boast all new features by 2012 and then id like to hear from u and the russians and indians will be using the pak fa so watch out
@Apollo13143 LCA keeps on breaking your banks, Plus 27 yrs have gone but still leading u to nowhere!!! j10 and 17 R already up and in production. tejas will require another 5 to 10 yrs ongoing foreign purchases and modification PLUS another 5 to 10 bln spending in uS$. j10 &17 roll out respectively at a small fraction of the time and money that tejas spent, both of the planes are better than tejas. tejas is a blackhole. it is a failure now and a predictable grand failure in aviation history
@whizzPOOM hey, chicom commie, I am not a fellow comrade to believe your propogandu. Don't worry abt our banks, they are perfectly fine and kicking. Till now, the entire Tejas program cost less than $2 billion, where did u get that "another" $5 - $10 bln story, probably in your monthly party journal. lol at jf17, even your own air "farce" doesn't use and that j10 is Isreali Lavi copy. Give your propagandu sermons to somebody else, not me.
@Apollo13143 hey smelly. i do not have any relationship with the Chinese Government. The nos are quoted from your newspaper(s) and those are probably more indigenious that ur 45% indian tech plane called teja.
j17 showed tremendous manueverability in aviation shows in uk and China. Have tejas gone to any of such aviation show yet? and 27 years still leave with u guys a lot of question marks in the plane. J10 is a great plane u can't build with the same tech, time and money.
@whizzPOOM hey small d***, u know what I mean. Learn to read papers properly dumbo, development cost is different from production cost, tejas development cost is less than $2 bln. Producing 150 - 200 aircraft for IAF will cost that $5 bln, no body is making it for free. jf17 is so maneuverable that chini air "farce" isn't using it, and guess what, pilots crashed due to its superb maneuverability that chini propogandu machine couldn't hide it. And J10.....lol... a cheap F16 copied from Lavi.
@Apollo13143 haha, I am not indian neither my physical buildup resembles ur race. Thank God! Tejas is a massive failure if you evaluate the outrageous cost and inexcusable duration against the low quality outcome. I broke out in laughter when I saw in a newscast a Tejas being put on the deck of a trailer in your recent national parade.
@whizzPOOM well, well, look who is speaking, I burst out of laughter when a person belonging to a nation famous for its laughable "quality" products the world over, is speaking abt quality. Instead of spying and making cheap third class reverse engineered copies, go make something original. What can I talk abt the intellectual capacity of a person who can't differentiate between a metal+cardboard mock up from the original. First, dare to find out cost of that junk j10B, j17 and come talk here.
SALUTE , MERA BHARATH MAHAAN LOOKING FOREWARD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT DUBAI AIR SHOW LET US HOPE THANK YOU ONE AND ALL WHO INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT MY HEARTIEST CONGRATULATION SALUTE ONCE AGAIN
@shumayelahmed oh, you talking about paki air farce, condolences for your crash rates. we are not selling it to you guys even if you beg like you do with americans. Even if its Mig-21++, then is it not ++better to take on third rate chinese copy of mig-21 called chengdu f-7? How pindigenous is JF-17 Bunder, well, made in China, painted in Paki, not even used by Chini AF. Oh,doesn't it use a Russian engine,don't talk abt it, whatever it uses & wherever its made, its paki pindegenous thats all.
Everybody knows Chinese material is always bad? Are you a complete moron. Throw your computer, cellphone, house appliances out the window and stop using Chinese made stuff then, Your LCA is just a flying coffin. IAF does not consider LCA as a worthy fighter which resulted in MRCA procurement plan not to mention the engine/operational trouble they had and your 3rd world country needs to start thinking about your own people. India #1 Aids, #1 poverty, #1 corruption those are facts.
Today (10th Jan 2011) I just saw on the news that Tejas has been inducted in the Indian Air Force. So those who are saying that Tejas won't be included before 2024 either flunked in maths or are pathetic trolls..I have my money on the second possibility.
Today (10th Jan 2011) I just saw on the news that Tejas has been inducted in the Indian Air Force..so those who are saying that Tejas won't be included before 2024 either flunked in maths or are pathetic trolls..I have my money on the second possibility.
@inceid5 yup, your wish. Man proposes but God disposes, right ? So, don't just listen to your commie propaganda and live in la la land, sometimes update yourself with latest news.
LCA is underdevelopment from more than two decades since its conception; the LCA has yet to reach production status. Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed. Difficulties with its flight controls & power plant (kaveri engine) are still there and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
Indians cant get out of complex for NEWS FLASH LCA (last chance aircraft) is the longest project in aviation history not even raptor took this much time and LCA is not even inducted yet and will not be available by 2015. It cant even take off in rain as shown in 2009 in an airs how Lets leave all the BS aside but s it cant even replace the flying coffins IAF itself has no confidence in the project and is till not inducting it. although it said that it would ground Mig-21 in the 1990's.
I CAN PREDICT ABOUT UR EDUCATION SYSTEM,THAT U EVEN DONT KNOW THE FULL FORM OF LCA. WELL ONE THING,US DENIED TO GIVE ANY SUPPLIES FOR LCA,,BUT SEE THEY MANUFACTURED IT THEIR OWN,THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN THEY INVENTED THEIR 1ST SUPER COMPUTER WHEN US DENIED TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THEIR NUCLEAR PROJECT BUT THEY INVENTED IT THIER OWN.U HAMBURGERS EVEN DONT KNOW HOW MANY STARS R THERE IN UR FLAG,,,SO Y U DOOING ARGUMATS WITH INDIANS.U ALL R NOTHING BUT LOSSERS,SUCK MY DICK U ASSHOLES
LUk,,,whose talking,,,,AMERICAN HAMBURGERS,took 25 yrs to manufacture f-22 raptor,,even european union too 20 yrs to manufacture grippen and others fighter planes inspite of having a developed economy,so who D hell u r 2 talk bout indian airforce.india was a underdeveloped economy 25 yrs ago,and 20 yrs ago they did not had money the time when they started LCA project.and it 's only been 10 yrs that they emerged as a superpower and they have money.for ur kind information its,LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT
A 30 years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic. Though the HAL says that it can reach Mach 2; the top speed of Tejas recorded till date is only Mach 1.2. The Tejas was supposed to have replaced the Mig 21s, MiG23s and MiG27s 20 years ago. The Tejas has yet to reach production status.Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of those are failed. The LCA, the Arjun, Trishul, Akash and other missiles are the same failed stories of india.
@ShameelBaloch LCA - Still long time from being fully operational induction. The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried about number of issues they facing for it operational capability. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015. So far we have inducted a poor version (like 3 Generation.) of LCA to facilitate our souls” says a senior IAF officer.
ADA can’t start LCA production before 2015.LCA has not yet passed the IOC.ADA and HAl will then adress and do the necessary work to remove those short comings and problems, this will take time.Then comes the stages of FOC by IAF.Only after getting FOC, ADA will be able to start large scale production of LCA. It is too early to make such claim.If every thing goes smooth,it will be some thing around 2015-16.
@Askywarrior : youre not askywarrior youre jealousy warrior, dont poke ur smelly nose into our affairs, you dont dare to even produce a capable motor car..... everybosy saw what you porkis did for habib motors crap///....
@AmericanRaptor1 January 2010 ADA sought assistance from EADS to redesign the Tejas undercarriage and help reduce the weight of the fighter which is already 1.5 tons heavier than envisaged.Some of the other problems that ADA needs help with are fuel distribution,uneven braking,flight controls.ADA is still struggling with its engine although they have decided to use American F404-GE-IN20 but that needs to redesign the whole plan or induct it as trainer with only 2 weapon storage points.
LUk,,,whose talking,,,,AMERICAN HAMBURGERS,took 25 yrs to manufacture f-22 raptor,,even european union too 20 yrs to manufacture grippen and others fighter planes inspite of having a developed economy,so who D hell u r 2 talk bout indian airforce.india was a underdeveloped economy 25 yrs ago,and 20 yrs ago de did'd had money the time when they started LCA project.and it 's only been 10 yrs that they emerged as a superpower and they have money.4 ur kind information its,LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT
I CAN PREDICT ABOUT UR EDUCATION SYSTEM,THAT U EVEN DONT KNOW THE FULL FORM OF LCA. WELL ONE THING,US DENIED TO GIVE ANY SUPPLIES FOR LCA,,BUT SEE THEY MANUFACTURED IT THEIR OWN,THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN THEY INVENTED THEIR 1ST SUPER COMPUTER WHEN US DENIED TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THEIR NUCLEAR PROJECT BUT THEY INVENTED IT THIER OWN.U HAMBURGERS EVEN DONT KNOW HOW MANY STARS R THERE IN UR FLAG,,,SO Y U DOOING ARGUMATS WITH INDIANS.U ALL R NOTHING BUT LOSSERS,SUCK MY DICK U ASSHOLES
@TheWarriorsMr IAF & Indian Navy have both said they intend to carry out some more tests and it remains doubtful if the Tejas will actually fulfil the role it was built for: to replace the ageing MiGs. A reality check reveals some sobering facts. For instance, LCA has been in the making for some 30 years.Initial budget was Rs560 crore; this spiralled to over Rs15,000 crore;40% of the components are imported, including the all-important engine.The Indian Kaveri, was a failure.
@flanker35su Hey you know something, HAl and LOCKHEAD MARTIN was making this project but LOCKHEAD MARTIN left it in middle so at that time our Engineers didn't knew anything about FIGHTER JET thats why after they left there was a rise in Budget.
@flanker35su DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
@flanker35su: Rafale Programme cost 32 billion $ and 20 years to develop even with the expertise behind its back (Dassault) Am not comparing ADA with Dassault but am trying to argue with ur notion of failure!! You cant put the no. of components used as 40% etc. as there is a question of which is critical and which is not.. But can u name the so called 40% components which are foreign!!
LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
LCA - Still long time from being inducted into service... but indians like to brag about making 5th generation plane when they can't even finish 3rd generation! The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried the much-hyped fighter will again fail to meet the already revised deadlines. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015” says a senior IAF officer.
When digging for water the scouting and digging are supposed to be the hard part and after that the extraction of water is easy. Similarly the R&d for a totally new aircraft was the hard part once we have the necessary infrastructure and know how in place the rest comes relatively easily... The LCA is awaiting its initial operational clearance(ioc) but ones everything goes smoothly the MK1 and MK2 variants is what India is looking forward too.
LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
Cut the crap. if u got to spew shit then at least get u facts straight , Tejas fully Indigenous except for its engine and the Kaveri is still in testing phase . The desperate and envious tone clearly suggests that ur comment isn't capable of convincing anyone but some stupid Pakistanis and ur retarded small mind
I notice a lot of the trolls on this thread are pakistanis - get a life you guys!! A jet aircraft is no easy task to build. the europeans have a century of experience and took ages with the Typhoon which combined the resources of the whole continent. besides unless u somehow have access to top secret information from indias fighter program your not really qualified to say much are youll?? now quit messing around on youtube threads and start fixing ur country!!
@zeeshan8love theres nothing to lol about. I see theres been an assasination in your country because someone purportedly insulted mohammed...need I say any more??
well those who are critizing dont know anything about aeronautics or engineering and are only reacting to like pesky rats and pigs on the bull shit of uneducated press or news or rumuors
actually this project not not only built a aircraft but a whole infrastructure and industry and experience backbone in the country for aeronautics so it took more time.
and shame on those mother fuckers who dont know any thing but just grumble.
Induction of a fully operational LCA in IAF facing delays due to following problems.1.Local Multi mode radar program ended in failure,now Israelis’ are working on new MMR.2.If MMR is completed,integration issues of an imported radar to the aircraft.3.Complete weapons suite needs to be resolved (just dummy missile trials as yet).4.Complete Weaponization of LCA still pending and it is not confirmed even some sources said that one prototype of LCA was blown up while firing a missile over Goa.
India is just making its false claims for LCA in order to influence the the world due to the failure of LCA.LCA will be outdated by the time it comes out in full production and India induct it into the services completely by 2015. Actually its already outdated.What a waste of time and money.I can’t figure out India when it comes to projects like Arjun and LCA. The Arjun-project started in 1972 and now almost 40 years later all they have to show for are prototypes, same story with LCA.
LCA was suppose to be indigenous, a task that proved to be to difficult and there is not many "indigenous" key-systems in the air craft today. LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter.The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all.
@Askywarrior let me tell u one thing, when a war takes place between india nd pakistan, sara dud ka duh paani ka paani ho jaega bhai mere, tab pta chaljaega ki tejas mein kya kharavi hai, time time di gal a mitra!!
@MrJefe29 Let me tell real thing to you,your brave pilot with high tech(if it true) aircraft cross pakistan air space after mumbai incident but when PAF interceptor chased your pilot ran with his tail behind legs PAF pilot took its photograph which later presented even to Americans,truth you cannot refute.
@shamidfdg oh man so ur in d army , so d army general who clicked d photo wid his chinnesse phone showed u that pic before sending it to the americans!! lool we have all right to attack any country if we know dat country attacked us, it was a show of power nd a warning by india by entering ur airspace , we didn't wanted to hurt ur country bt just wanted to show u wat india cn do!!, if they really wanted war then wud have straightly attacked ur military base!! think abt dat too!!
@shamidfdg if we have defeated u in numerous wars then we cn again defeat u, bt we don't want war because we know dat pakistan is being governed by bunch of immature people, who cn start a nuclear war, bt mature indian politicians don't want to end dis world!! so we try to avoid any nuclear war!! if there a war india cn wipe of pakistan in a week's time bt both india and pakistan will suffer nd maybe d world will also!
Tie a porki to the missile and fire, tie this howardhughes, american raptor, Imflyingeagle, this is the same guy with xle id. Sorry porki btiches! rofl
See whatever it is they have a job to complete and the final product should meet a User Acceptance Test. This is just horrible project management nothing else.
The basic premise of this LCA is a vestige of 1980. Its older than probably the average age of an Indian AF active duty pilot. That aint cutting edge!
So get more exotic on the “requirements” and then fail at producing any results. Its called “hauwka”(greed). It gets nowhere.
Yeah yeah, same comment everywhere! what a D-bag. What a loser! hahaha, Tejas will fry your Junk fighter aka tin box man. Now go ride that camel, you camel piss drinking whores! You have no industry to even make a tri cycle. There are some old sugar mills owned by big shots like your PM and Sharief and 10%. Even some of these sugar mills were established before independence, Bitches! For Now, just fuckin float on the water and eat India's 5 million. CUNTS!
@TheBharath2010 Man, "aviatormikehunter, ImFlyingEagle, flanker35su, fighterpilot65, bestfighterpilot, pafsbzkhan, AmericanRaptor1, Howard0Hughes, Askywarrior".........these are all but the same person. An obsessed maniac, I guess. His ass might have been burnt during 65 war.
only by 2024 will their be any LCA with Kavir engine AESA radar and isreali avionics will be ready for IOC for now i think indians are in big state of denial which will bring a phonological side effects to them.
It is a fighter jet assholes...
sKyDrifT94 2 weeks ago
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LCA has taken 25 years for its development and it still not ready to induct. The Tejas was supposed to have replaced the Mig 21s, MiG23s and MiG27s 20 years ago. The Tejas has yet to reach production status.Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of those are failed. Difficulties with flight controls & power plant continues to be plagued with technical difficulties, the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests performed at a Russian base.
Askywarrior 1 month ago
ADA has taken v.long to develop the LCA. A 25years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic.IAF was never enthusiastic about inducting LCA.The aircraft's combat performance was dismal and so was its weapon load and Engine problem.Its high pressure hydraulic system was prone to frequent failures and its engine & a fly-by-wire system has serious defects. During its prototype tests the LCA prototypes were grounded for many months on many occasions.It has failed in many flight tests.
Askywarrior 1 month ago
jo be hoooo,,,,,, delta wing design mast lagta hai..... difft frm others
navi2gaur 1 month ago
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years. But IAF can use this failed experience in future & can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
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LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
Howard0Hughes 1 month ago
This looks like a great fighter for combat 40 years ago.
dschappel 1 month ago
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LCA is almost a failed project.
India has become such a country, whose every indigenous project ended in failure with the waste of thousands of failed hours. Now india has inducted LCA in IAF in hurry even with its limited capability and defects just to save its FACE.
IAF has decide to induct 20 LCAs by 2017 with limited capability even lower then MiG21. India is repeating the same story of arjun and murat.
Visscarionovich 2 months ago
it's tip looks like a dolphin's...
probably a design stolen from mother nature....
HOW DARE YOU ROB FROM NATURE!!!!!!!!!
pureawesomeness2012 2 months ago
Neo Nazi Indians u don't need the plane even though it's a joke nor the missiles - just dig the GRAVES AND BURY THE KISHMIRIS!
hamnospam 3 months ago
LCA is not 4Generation aircraft.LCA is Mig-21+ said by current Indian airforce chief. He further said that "LCA is a learning experience for IAF and the mark1 is not combat worthy". LCA engine is underpowered and yet to achieve FOC and first squadron will be completed by 2015/16. Similarly LCA mark2 squadron will be completed by 2020/22 and after this FOC and LCA mark 2 performances will be same as MiG21 bison and MiG21 bison is not a bad aircraft.
Visscarionovich 4 months ago
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shreyasisro2 2 months ago
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@Visscarionovich: MiG-21+.. MiG-21+..! Have the PAC loosers even come close to making an indigenous aircraft close to at least the MiG-15?? Shit Talk!!
shreyasisro2 2 months ago
@1987Arihant jf-17 is a masterpiece compared to tejas
jobjed 4 months ago
@jobjed: In the same way PAF is a masterpiece when compared to PLAAF!! Even China is not ready to induct it!! No proper engine, no one knows about how shameless its performance is, already one crashed, U r inducting it coz it is ur fleet is redundant and u have no other choice, It is PAF which has inducted it as a face saver!! There is no proper tech used!! Old style Metal Plane with Chinese Avionics which are reverse engineered!! And PAC have made the effort to paint it!! What a waste!!
shreyasisro2 2 months ago
@1987Arihant trololololol jf-17 is a masterpiece compared to the tejas
jobjed 4 months ago
@jobjed it is a piece of chink junk which evn they are not flying ! Bul shit !
araw19india 3 months ago
The Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) project was sanctioned in 1982 with a budget of Rs560 crore to develop a state-of-the-art fighter aircraft to replace IAF's MiG-21 fighters.Close to Rs15,000 crore have since been spent but the aircraft still remains under development even after its induction. It is currently being inducted with a substitute engine (F404-GE-IN20) but IAF is still not happy with it. IAF is planning to us it a trainer aircraft in IAF due to its limited capabilities.
ImFlyingEagle 5 months ago 5
LCA is 4.5 gen fighter .... the only problem faced by LCA is its engine... it's not as per requirement..... it uses composites material but still slightly heavy then estimated weight. A new engine is on way for which LCA has to be redesign. Furthermore it's design has one serious problem that it can't take out more than +6g turn..... weapon load is 4000kg but still can't pull a full weight..... some where near 2020 it will be fully ready as 4.5 gen fighter.
flanker35su 5 months ago 4
GAY HIND!!!! GAY HIND!!!! BHANGEE INDIAN RATS. WE RULED OVER YOU FOR 1000 YEARS. HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT?LOL. OUR WEAPONS ARE READY FOR YOU. STRAIGHT UP YOUR ASSES.OOPS! YOU MIGHT ENJOY THAT.
slayerz01 5 months ago
@slayerz01 You were created in 1947. What 1000 years are you talking about? Stop being delusional.
sadhaklal 5 months ago 3
@sadhaklal ha ha ha lol
MrKasperabhay 2 months ago
@sadhaklal actually he is referring to Muslims ..the mogul emperors that ruled in India..search for zaid hamid ..he is Pakistan 's one of the most Muslim extremist speaker ..he teaches them all this nonsense stuff .....actually mughals ruled in india from 1500 to 1800 roughly..(actually 1700 cos empire disintegrated after aurangzeb's death)
MrKasperabhay 2 months ago
The LCA programme’s limited production & 20 aircraft IAF has ordered will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines.Though this engine has Digital Engine Control, these are not be able to generate required thrust for LCA specially at sea/low level. Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for buying advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF due to it v.limited operational capabilities as fighter.
Visscarionovich 5 months ago 3
Congratulation to IAF on induction of LCA. But now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success and some want to produce despite its drawbacks and just use it as a point defence fighter like the MiG-21 (which it is suppose to replace).
Now that would be a achievement, producing a 1960´s MiG-21 kind of fighter in 2015.
bestfighterpilot 5 months ago 3
This is the fact that Bharat is the only country of its size that is unable to produce aircraft, missiles or choppers. It has had to purchase most of its arms from Russia After three decade of design and development, Delhi has failed to produce a fully operational plane. (As LCA is inducted with number of issues)
The JF-17 is much better than the MiG-21 for sure, it is a Mirage 2000-F-16A type, now they are improving it, but certainly is a match for aircraft like the F-16, MiG29, Mirage 2000.
VayuRakshak 5 months ago 5
world most expensive home in india we always in media for our intelligency im not said superioty its white people words thx
ankurhotdude1987 6 months ago
india product not count as chinese products thats why indians comes in top ten billionaires
ankurhotdude1987 6 months ago
looks like cheap Chinese toy
gg2000gg2000 6 months ago
DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
TheWarriorsMr 6 months ago 4
LCA is a learning experience for IAF & an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations & Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.v.limited & IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price.
On the other hand JF-17 is tested,multirole,very handy, more maneuverable and decent aircraft it its price.
pafsbzkhan 6 months ago 5
ha ha ha ha
bunch of impatient guys ... we are making a 4th generation plane here not a simple cycle ...use your mind ...see the aspect of engineering...making a aircraft is not a peace of cake specially when 50 % of your crew member are illiterate (reservation )...it needs a series of developments..
this is just beginning...
"india and russia are making a fifth generation aircraft design is based on tejas"up to 2016 we will hv more than 250 5th gen plane...
come on guys its our plane
ramanujmishra1 6 months ago
no matter what you guys said
its a mile stone in indian history .....
without any foreign add what else you want them to make a "space ship"
i feel proud that india has done it....a completely indian aircraft..
ramanujmishra1 6 months ago
even indian airforce knows this one sucks
raajadhepan 7 months ago
fucked up govt has raped Indian Airlines limited by doling out licence to private operators thus making private operator as well as Indian airlines sick .These guys had they given licence to Mahidras ,RIL,TATA to manufacture fighters aircraft both for export as well as internal consumption these guys by now would have flooded the three forces AF,NAVY,ARMY with choices-tic fighter aircraft plus the country would have earned good export revenue from aircraft business by private manufacturer.
das98989898 7 months ago
Actually because of Indian Brains , america is moving forward. expect KFC and Mcdonald no shit Losers
Indiancrab 7 months ago
i just want to tell all the people watching this video that before writing any thing about this aircraft check out wiki on tejas u will get all ur answers about this fighter nd its power.
another thing is that this aircraft takes much time to develop becoz of the sanctions imposed by US on india if that was not imposed so it will be inducted before 2005 so i just want to tell all peoplethat check on wiki about the airfcraft nd then think about it.
MrSumitindian 7 months ago
Congratulation to IAF on induction of LCA. But now in IAF there is a divide on LCA. Some want to turn the LCA into a advanced jet trainer due to its failure as multirole fighter, others are still convinced that it could be a success and some want to produce despite its drawbacks and just use it as a point defense fighter like the MiG-21 (which it is suppose to replace). Now that would be a achievement, producing a 1960´s MiG-21 kind of fighter in 2015.
ImFlyingEagle 8 months ago 7
@ImFlyingEagle: I'd rather have these rather than getting Joint Failures( catch my drift?) in charity anyday.
Anyways we have a lot of Sukhois, getting a lot of Rafales(or Eurofighters), have our FGFA program(nearing completion)......we are pretty safe in air power department i believe, better than clinging on to 30 year old f-16s though just cause no one wants to sell us anything......
at least we learnt a lot from this program
theeviltwi9 7 months ago
Few very bitter facts about LCA.
1.LCA cant even pull more than 17 degrees AOA meaning it has a limited angle of attack
2. LCA isn't even for all weathers recently in an airshow in India in 2009 LCA wasn't able to take off in rain.
3. Its too costly meaning its no longer a replacement for IAF’s flying coffins.
4. Its engine has problems it can only give 80 KN but the requirement of IAF is 95-100 KN
5. Its 1.5 tones more heavily than planned.
6. It can’t even carry full load of weapons.
AmericanRaptor1 8 months ago 8
@AmericanRaptor1 Not bad for first effort , India will learn from this & produce much better Fighters in future.
India is not America , India doesn't have experience of making fighters like west country's & neither going to war with every other possible nation on the planet earth like America does which drives Defense industry.
mudit11 7 months ago
its just a tin box
ghousevil 8 months ago
The LCA programme’s limited series production of 20 aircraft will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines.Though these engines have Full Authority Digital Engine Control, longer life and hot-end components, these are not be able to generate a good thrust for LCA specially at sea/low level.Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for busing advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF due to it limited capabilities as fighter.
fighterpilot65 8 months ago 8
LCA is a learning experience for IAF,and an example of India stepping into areas completely unknown to it.Even the most developed nations and Pakistan have had problems and delays.This does not make LCA a weak aircraft.It is a very decent aircraft that can be used in IAF as advance trainer because as fighter its capabilities are v.limited and IAF can buy more decent aircraft in its price which (LCA) is good for nothing!!!!
TheWarriorsMr 8 months ago 9
@democracyindia2 what middle class, dont you check the state, 80% are below poverty line (Worse condition) according to europing standards, and only 5 % affords the life luxury which is average in western life
ebadhashmi 9 months ago
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shiv u and that anup and all those benis madarjaat are numer one pimps of ur morther and sisters.bhosadi de teri amma di gand vich anaconda aur phudi vich gadhe da lun.u mother fukers bharat rat shit walon randiyon di auladon.cow pee drinkers,ma de laudon.u wont undertstand punjabi so get all this translated on ur bharat ratshit.u aboriginal south indian kala dravidian kanadiga monkey.
eternity8701 9 months ago
it looks like a mix of French Rafale and Mirage 2000
Splinter4zic 9 months ago
Although the LAC has been inducted with numbers of major defects as fighter aircraft but True Rome was not built in a day but that was rome. This rome (LCA ) the white elephant, the way its being going on for past 30 years, seems will not be get fully operational capability in next 5 years. But IAF can use this experience in future can use this LCA as advance jet trainer or may be become beauty of museum or some public square to remind their 30 years of nonstop effort.
Howard0Hughes 9 months ago 32
@Howard0Hughes the further delay in experience are those 126 fighter that will slow the learning process of all the indian
ebadhashmi 9 months ago
@Howard0Hughes According to an IAF source associated with the long-delayed fighter program,Tejas has inducted but it is still not be the fighter the air force had agreed to accept for limited squadron service.Performance specifications that the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) has not been able to attain include sustained turn rate, speed at low altitude, angle of attack and certain weapon delivery profiles.Exactly how far off the performance is from the specification remains classified.
bestfighterpilot 9 months ago 8
@Howard0Hughes you sir are a fuckin retard
sandy3126 6 months ago
@Howard0Hughes Haha well said but no its not that bad.....It did not fulfill IAF's criteria because its engine develop less thrust. Mark II version will have General Electric F414-GE-INS6 engine and a better radar, they won't produce more than 48 Mark-I LCA. I think after full evolution they will get a mean and very capable machine.
alfredsri 5 months ago
I blatant obvious, but: India has the second largest population in the world. Per person India's worldwide ranking is along those of Vietnam and Philippines, in human development behind Botswana. The gap between the rich and poor are gigantic and growing. Seven Indians on the Forbes list have a combined worth equivalent to a tenth of the GDP in a country where a billion people live on under $1.25 a day. Steady GDP growth yes, but how about inflation? The current growth is 7,4%, inflation 10.9%.
knutgordon 9 months ago
@democracyindia2
Actually Su 30MKI was a very sensible project. Sukhoi designers did their magic with the plane and tailor made it to Indian specifications, integrated assorted Indian systems and avionics into it and added some French and Israeli goodies for good measure. A very good plane delivered on time, on budget and in quantities. The same can not be said abaut LCA
knutgordon 9 months ago
@knutgordon i even doubt about Sukhoi, its waste of money, who would attack India which is Nuclear Power, i think project like tejas have been worked out well, corruption is covered up, same failure as Arjun Tank, spend on poor
ebadhashmi 9 months ago
@democracyindia2
You do know what purchasing power parity measures (or rather do not) ? Internationally, an income of less than $1 per day per head of purchasing power parity is defined as extreme poverty. By this estimate, about 40% percent of Indians are extremely poor, This estimate is accepted by the government of India. Still not poor enough for you? What abaut your own governments rural poverty threshold of 12 rupees per day (approximately $0.25) Guess the % of people below that?
knutgordon 9 months ago
@democracyindia2
It would have been wiser to swallow national pride and develop a derivate of an existing engine together with the manufacturer, instead of starting from scratch with little to no prior design experience. The engine has been in the design phase for decades, by now being substituted by two generations foreign engines, and with untold millions spent on something that is of no practical use for the Indian Air Force and likely will never be.
knutgordon 9 months ago
@democracyindia2
The 11'th largest economy in the world by nominal GDP, and huge masses of poverty ridden citizens, massive infrastructure and corruption problems and a enormous waste of human potential. As of 2005, according to World Bank statistics, 75.6% of the population lived on less than $2 a day and the proportion of underweight and malnourished children was nearly double that of Sub-Saharan Africa. Its less abaut being in position to breast thump, much more abaut the chosen priorities.
knutgordon 9 months ago
@democracyindia2
The Kaveri project has been going on since the 80's with no signs to reach production status, Personally, I would not be surprised if a decade from now the Kaveri is still not ready nor making the required thrust necessary to power the LCA . How long can such a project go on before one can call it a failure ?
knutgordon 9 months ago
I just can't imagine where India and Indians will be in next 10 yrs when these initial Research and Development reach their mature stage. Remember guys, these might seems primitive but is the base or foundation for the next smarter generation of India. The way parents are teaching their Kids in metro right now is going to create super smart kids. It was just 10-15 years ago when things started. Look where we are. We have our flag on the moon, we found water on the moon. Some day we will go there
shiburai 10 months ago
@shiburai
The Moon? Thats so 1969! Looks like India and Pakistan are now officially in the first man on moon race. How one has the audacity to spend so much money on a pointless and pure ego boasting "Yes, we can" prestige exercise such as this while the vast majority of the population live the way they do is beyond me.
knutgordon 9 months ago
I live just a mile away from this runway. They just took off (about 10 minutes ago). The test it 24/7. Our area has DRDO,NAL,HAL, ISRO, BEML etc etc etc. Its Murugeshpalya Bangalore. I flat is 20 meters away from ISRO compound wall. I am so lucky....I think Bangalore is the only city which has all the Government Offices and labs. Don't know about other Super Ultra Metros like Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta, Chennai. Any comments...
shiburai 10 months ago
gud job dne by hal, now ADA is working on amca, what india need is an anathor company for avionics this will inc. competition and will also avoid lateness, thats why america and russia are developing indiginous aircrafts quickly cause there is competition btween sukhoi-mig and lockheed martin-boeing
hasr4j 10 months ago
dont say anything abt god(allah) we dnt like bad pakistanis bt. we respect allah
hasr4j 10 months ago
The LCA programme’s limited series production and the 20 aircraft the IAF has ordered will fly with GE 404 IN20 engines. Though these engines have Full Authority Digital Engine Control, longer life and hot-end components, these are not be able to generate a good thrust for LCA specially at sea level. Further more India has suspended it’s deal with Russia for busing advance jet trainer (YAK-130) as some senior officials of IAF wants to use LCA as advance trainer for IAF.
Askywarrior 10 months ago
India is developing its indegenious aircraft.thts a good beginning.We need not depend on foreign companies soon.Keep it up.
abhijithero 10 months ago
IAF and the critiques should shut the hell up,this was created to replace the Mig-21 and Gnat! The IAF asked for an new generation aircraft that resembled the GNAT in its operational capabilities! We got something far better and now we need to iron out the chinks during operationilization like everyone else does! The Mark-2 would be much better and more than good enough for us. If IAF could shot down Sabers with Gnats in the 70s we could do much better with LCA against JF-17 bundher! :D
KarthikSoun 10 months ago
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congress is yet to bring out someone who's even 1/8th as good a leader as Narendra Modi, for example. All congress brings out are Adharmic, highly corrupt crooks and thugs whose sole aim is to leech as much from Bharat as possible to transfer to their accounts in the Swiss Bank.
Jai Bharat! Jai Nepal! Jai RSS! Jai BJP!
EternalSelf108 10 months ago
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Tejas is looking to be a true, world class fighter jet.
However, I'd like to remind all my brothers and sisters from Bharat that had BJP been in power, none of these shortcomings would have happened. The extreme incompetence of congress is the main reason (just like with all of Bharat's problems) for the Tejas having problems. If you love your nation and want it restored to it's former Vedic glory, we need to bring BJP to power.
EternalSelf108 10 months ago
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As for the Tejas, I would like to ask my pakistani and chinese-in-disguise brothers and sisters to conduct more research.
The Tejas has reached mach 1.6 numerous times, and this is without the recent improvements such as the F404 engine. The improvements will give the Tejas 10kN more thrust, the weight reduction of approximately ~700kg will also help with the performance.
I would also like to remind the pakistanis that they are yet to come up with anything indigenous that's half decent.
EternalSelf108 10 months ago
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Namaste brothers and sisters.
I would like to remind all the anti-Bharat people here who are trying to spread pessimism that, as with every nation, Bharat too will have it's share of shortcomings, however, you can be sure that no amount of chinese and pakistani propaganda can bring Bharat down, it hasn't for 1.97 billion years and it won't in the future.
EternalSelf108 10 months ago
crap
kpopishh67 11 months ago
LCA is not very good.....but they are still improving and modifying it....so hopefully it would become better at performance......
laluprasad111 11 months ago
LCA=lower class aircraft????
zhantonio 11 months ago
@zhantonio na, its Light Chinese fking Aircraft.
Apollo13143 10 months ago
when a country is tryin to become a economic power, there will be some jealousy in neighbours, bt after some time, they all r gonna accept d fact india has a lot of potential, dis is too all d haters!!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
Are India buying gripen because of the same engine?
Plasticwin 11 months ago
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bundy5686 11 months ago
Forget this curry shit...buy some F35 pls
bundy5686 11 months ago
@bundy5686 i dont' get frm where does dis currry come, is d plane made up of curry i don't get ur humour, or i shid say its nt humour,
MrJefe29 11 months ago
@MrJefe29 ofcourse u dont, cus u ate too much curry
bundy5686 11 months ago
@bundy568 no sorry i ate chinese food!!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
what a beauty.
It will be more advanced than a ton of other over-priced and over-hyped junk out there when its inducted into the IAF. Most of what is masquerading as state-of-the-art planes by foreign countries is yesterday's technology.
orangedac 1 year ago
This initial success of Tejas can give us a reason to smile,but not to jump with joy.IAF has said they intend to carry out some more tests & it remains doubtful if the Tejas will actually fulfil the role it was built for:to replace the ageing MiGs.A reality check reveals some sobering facts.For instance,the LCA has been in the making for some 30 years.The initial budget was Rs560 crore;this spiralled to over Rs15,000 crore & 40% of the components are imported,including the all-important engine.
flanker35su 1 year ago
Telears 1 year ago
not half bad
ashutosh1908 1 year ago
SHIT AIRCRAFT, LOOKS LIKE SECOND GENERATION PLANE.
powerofthroughts 1 year ago
@Parishrut2 its funny, lca is made in France+US, India made? hahaha.
NimendoushidaSB 1 year ago
LCA is a joke. comment from CHINA
NimendoushidaSB 1 year ago
LCA is a joke. Frankly, a product that is about 30 years old being trumpeted as state of the art. LOL
truthful4515 1 year ago
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it is already outdated before induction in air force.and as we all know this is Not indian indigenous..!
Nam691 1 year ago
@fucksouthkoreagook OUTDATED? so proove it how come its outdated...and TEJAS means the SUNSHINE
rupesh251983 1 year ago
america basically stole advanced aircraft designs from the germans after ww2 and they reworked them as a result came up with b2 and f117 so originally it was stolen from the germans should get credit for these designs so if germany would have won the war these aircraft would've been theirs , but nonetheless americans have proved that they are the best at stealing classfied info so thumbs up for them and keep it up if u can cause in these tough times its more harder to steal such info
shahbaazsingh 1 year ago
f 117 was brought down in eastern europe and it claimed to have the best avionics and stealth and so on blah blah . So doe the raptor and Joint SF but still despite their '5th - gen claimes' these babies are easily detectable by advanced radars made in russia or elsewhere so its not much of a difference and by the way tejas MK-2 will be availaible soon which will boast all new features by 2012 and then id like to hear from u and the russians and indians will be using the pak fa so watch out
shahbaazsingh 1 year ago
@fucksouthkoreagook yeah correct, so are j10 and jf-17 bunder.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
@Apollo13143 LCA keeps on breaking your banks, Plus 27 yrs have gone but still leading u to nowhere!!! j10 and 17 R already up and in production. tejas will require another 5 to 10 yrs ongoing foreign purchases and modification PLUS another 5 to 10 bln spending in uS$. j10 &17 roll out respectively at a small fraction of the time and money that tejas spent, both of the planes are better than tejas. tejas is a blackhole. it is a failure now and a predictable grand failure in aviation history
whizzPOOM 1 year ago
@whizzPOOM hey, chicom commie, I am not a fellow comrade to believe your propogandu. Don't worry abt our banks, they are perfectly fine and kicking. Till now, the entire Tejas program cost less than $2 billion, where did u get that "another" $5 - $10 bln story, probably in your monthly party journal. lol at jf17, even your own air "farce" doesn't use and that j10 is Isreali Lavi copy. Give your propagandu sermons to somebody else, not me.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
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whizzPOOM 1 year ago
@Apollo13143 hey smelly. i do not have any relationship with the Chinese Government. The nos are quoted from your newspaper(s) and those are probably more indigenious that ur 45% indian tech plane called teja.
j17 showed tremendous manueverability in aviation shows in uk and China. Have tejas gone to any of such aviation show yet? and 27 years still leave with u guys a lot of question marks in the plane. J10 is a great plane u can't build with the same tech, time and money.
whizzPOOM 1 year ago
@whizzPOOM hey small d***, u know what I mean. Learn to read papers properly dumbo, development cost is different from production cost, tejas development cost is less than $2 bln. Producing 150 - 200 aircraft for IAF will cost that $5 bln, no body is making it for free. jf17 is so maneuverable that chini air "farce" isn't using it, and guess what, pilots crashed due to its superb maneuverability that chini propogandu machine couldn't hide it. And J10.....lol... a cheap F16 copied from Lavi.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
@Apollo13143 haha, I am not indian neither my physical buildup resembles ur race. Thank God! Tejas is a massive failure if you evaluate the outrageous cost and inexcusable duration against the low quality outcome. I broke out in laughter when I saw in a newscast a Tejas being put on the deck of a trailer in your recent national parade.
whizzPOOM 1 year ago
@whizzPOOM well, well, look who is speaking, I burst out of laughter when a person belonging to a nation famous for its laughable "quality" products the world over, is speaking abt quality. Instead of spying and making cheap third class reverse engineered copies, go make something original. What can I talk abt the intellectual capacity of a person who can't differentiate between a metal+cardboard mock up from the original. First, dare to find out cost of that junk j10B, j17 and come talk here.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
@whizzPOOM did u create chengdu?? y d heel r u talking like dat as if u created d planes for china lol!!!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
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SALUTE , MERA BHARATH MAHAAN LOOKING FOREWARD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND WE EXPECT IN THE NEXT DUBAI AIR SHOW LET US HOPE THANK YOU ONE AND ALL WHO INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT MY HEARTIEST CONGRATULATION SALUTE ONCE AGAIN
nediyara 1 year ago
the bill : us$38+another 10 billion
the time: 27+another 5 to 10 years!!!
the result: LCA -Low Class Airplane with 40% indian technology
Estimated crash rate: 40%
genius!!! what an achievement!!!
whizzPOOM 1 year ago
Chinese J-20 首飞 fighter flight[1] 中国歼20战机
ssss12598 1 year ago
IAF Cheif: LCA is a mig-21++ fighter, not 4th generation, is not all weather, has compromised avionics and standards.
Even a pathetic airforce with highest crash rates in the world doesn't want it.
...that explains the indigenous cry.
shumayelahmed 1 year ago
@shumayelahmed oh, you talking about paki air farce, condolences for your crash rates. we are not selling it to you guys even if you beg like you do with americans. Even if its Mig-21++, then is it not ++better to take on third rate chinese copy of mig-21 called chengdu f-7? How pindigenous is JF-17 Bunder, well, made in China, painted in Paki, not even used by Chini AF. Oh,doesn't it use a Russian engine,don't talk abt it, whatever it uses & wherever its made, its paki pindegenous thats all.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
Congrats to every person involved in the project...
gpardhu 1 year ago
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Everybody knows Chinese material is always bad? Are you a complete moron. Throw your computer, cellphone, house appliances out the window and stop using Chinese made stuff then, Your LCA is just a flying coffin. IAF does not consider LCA as a worthy fighter which resulted in MRCA procurement plan not to mention the engine/operational trouble they had and your 3rd world country needs to start thinking about your own people. India #1 Aids, #1 poverty, #1 corruption those are facts.
abcabcabdfg 1 year ago
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Today (10th Jan 2011) I just saw on the news that Tejas has been inducted in the Indian Air Force. So those who are saying that Tejas won't be included before 2024 either flunked in maths or are pathetic trolls..I have my money on the second possibility.
SeaofSongs 1 year ago
Today (10th Jan 2011) I just saw on the news that Tejas has been inducted in the Indian Air Force..so those who are saying that Tejas won't be included before 2024 either flunked in maths or are pathetic trolls..I have my money on the second possibility.
SeaofSongs 1 year ago
My biggest wish is that when my grandchildren are as old as i am now, they will see the LCA in service
inceid5 1 year ago
@inceid5 yup, your wish. Man proposes but God disposes, right ? So, don't just listen to your commie propaganda and live in la la land, sometimes update yourself with latest news.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
LCA is underdevelopment from more than two decades since its conception; the LCA has yet to reach production status. Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of these tests were also failed. Difficulties with its flight controls & power plant (kaveri engine) are still there and the worst of which was the collapse of the engine during high-altitude tests.
aviatormikehunter 1 year ago
Indians cant get out of complex for NEWS FLASH LCA (last chance aircraft) is the longest project in aviation history not even raptor took this much time and LCA is not even inducted yet and will not be available by 2015. It cant even take off in rain as shown in 2009 in an airs how Lets leave all the BS aside but s it cant even replace the flying coffins IAF itself has no confidence in the project and is till not inducting it. although it said that it would ground Mig-21 in the 1990's.
pafsbzkhan 1 year ago 2
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I CAN PREDICT ABOUT UR EDUCATION SYSTEM,THAT U EVEN DONT KNOW THE FULL FORM OF LCA. WELL ONE THING,US DENIED TO GIVE ANY SUPPLIES FOR LCA,,BUT SEE THEY MANUFACTURED IT THEIR OWN,THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN THEY INVENTED THEIR 1ST SUPER COMPUTER WHEN US DENIED TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THEIR NUCLEAR PROJECT BUT THEY INVENTED IT THIER OWN.U HAMBURGERS EVEN DONT KNOW HOW MANY STARS R THERE IN UR FLAG,,,SO Y U DOOING ARGUMATS WITH INDIANS.U ALL R NOTHING BUT LOSSERS,SUCK MY DICK U ASSHOLES
typicallyrussian 1 year ago
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LUk,,,whose talking,,,,AMERICAN HAMBURGERS,took 25 yrs to manufacture f-22 raptor,,even european union too 20 yrs to manufacture grippen and others fighter planes inspite of having a developed economy,so who D hell u r 2 talk bout indian airforce.india was a underdeveloped economy 25 yrs ago,and 20 yrs ago they did not had money the time when they started LCA project.and it 's only been 10 yrs that they emerged as a superpower and they have money.for ur kind information its,LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT
typicallyrussian 1 year ago
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A 30 years lead time to develop a fighter aircraft is unrealistic. Though the HAL says that it can reach Mach 2; the top speed of Tejas recorded till date is only Mach 1.2. The Tejas was supposed to have replaced the Mig 21s, MiG23s and MiG27s 20 years ago. The Tejas has yet to reach production status.Instead, it continues to perform endless flight tests and most of those are failed. The LCA, the Arjun, Trishul, Akash and other missiles are the same failed stories of india.
khanf7pg 1 year ago
LCA = Late Combat Aircraft
ShameelBaloch 1 year ago 5
@ShameelBaloch No, worldwide it is famous as LAST CHANCE AIRCRAFT.. lolz
khanf7pg 1 year ago
@ShameelBaloch LCA - Still long time from being fully operational induction. The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried about number of issues they facing for it operational capability. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015. So far we have inducted a poor version (like 3 Generation.) of LCA to facilitate our souls” says a senior IAF officer.
bestfighterpilot 10 months ago
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ADA can’t start LCA production before 2015.LCA has not yet passed the IOC.ADA and HAl will then adress and do the necessary work to remove those short comings and problems, this will take time.Then comes the stages of FOC by IAF.Only after getting FOC, ADA will be able to start large scale production of LCA. It is too early to make such claim.If every thing goes smooth,it will be some thing around 2015-16.
pafsbzkhan 1 year ago
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@Askywarrior : youre not askywarrior youre jealousy warrior, dont poke ur smelly nose into our affairs, you dont dare to even produce a capable motor car..... everybosy saw what you porkis did for habib motors crap///....
skvicknesh 1 year ago
@AmericanRaptor1 January 2010 ADA sought assistance from EADS to redesign the Tejas undercarriage and help reduce the weight of the fighter which is already 1.5 tons heavier than envisaged.Some of the other problems that ADA needs help with are fuel distribution,uneven braking,flight controls.ADA is still struggling with its engine although they have decided to use American F404-GE-IN20 but that needs to redesign the whole plan or induct it as trainer with only 2 weapon storage points.
TheWarriorsMr 1 year ago 7
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LUk,,,whose talking,,,,AMERICAN HAMBURGERS,took 25 yrs to manufacture f-22 raptor,,even european union too 20 yrs to manufacture grippen and others fighter planes inspite of having a developed economy,so who D hell u r 2 talk bout indian airforce.india was a underdeveloped economy 25 yrs ago,and 20 yrs ago de did'd had money the time when they started LCA project.and it 's only been 10 yrs that they emerged as a superpower and they have money.4 ur kind information its,LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT
typicallyrussian 1 year ago
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I CAN PREDICT ABOUT UR EDUCATION SYSTEM,THAT U EVEN DONT KNOW THE FULL FORM OF LCA. WELL ONE THING,US DENIED TO GIVE ANY SUPPLIES FOR LCA,,BUT SEE THEY MANUFACTURED IT THEIR OWN,THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN THEY INVENTED THEIR 1ST SUPER COMPUTER WHEN US DENIED TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR THEIR NUCLEAR PROJECT BUT THEY INVENTED IT THIER OWN.U HAMBURGERS EVEN DONT KNOW HOW MANY STARS R THERE IN UR FLAG,,,SO Y U DOOING ARGUMATS WITH INDIANS.U ALL R NOTHING BUT LOSSERS,SUCK MY DICK U ASSHOLES
typicallyrussian 1 year ago
@TheWarriorsMr IAF & Indian Navy have both said they intend to carry out some more tests and it remains doubtful if the Tejas will actually fulfil the role it was built for: to replace the ageing MiGs. A reality check reveals some sobering facts. For instance, LCA has been in the making for some 30 years.Initial budget was Rs560 crore; this spiralled to over Rs15,000 crore;40% of the components are imported, including the all-important engine.The Indian Kaveri, was a failure.
flanker35su 10 months ago 18
@flanker35su Very True, this show how corrupt are the Institutions and Government
ebadhashmi 9 months ago
@flanker35su Hey you know something, HAl and LOCKHEAD MARTIN was making this project but LOCKHEAD MARTIN left it in middle so at that time our Engineers didn't knew anything about FIGHTER JET thats why after they left there was a rise in Budget.
GameStarA1 9 months ago
@flanker35su DRDO chief VK Aatre had said about the LCA Tejas’ “We have developed a fighter aircraft in 30 years and it still have a long way to go”. Air Chief PV Naik’s gave critical remarks at the initial operational clearance (IOC) of LCA that "LCA is just a 3 or 3.5 generation aircraft when it was actually supposed to be developed as a fourth generation one and and it will be used in IAF with limited operational capability", exposes IAF’s dissatisfaction with LCA’s development.
AmericanRaptor1 8 months ago 7
@flanker35su
well u are incorrect
kaveri was a huge success
and will be used in india 's future mca
parikshitmmps 8 months ago
@flanker35su: Rafale Programme cost 32 billion $ and 20 years to develop even with the expertise behind its back (Dassault) Am not comparing ADA with Dassault but am trying to argue with ur notion of failure!! You cant put the no. of components used as 40% etc. as there is a question of which is critical and which is not.. But can u name the so called 40% components which are foreign!!
shreyasisro2 2 months ago
LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
ImFlyingEagle 1 year ago 3
LCA - Still long time from being inducted into service... but indians like to brag about making 5th generation plane when they can't even finish 3rd generation! The famous LCA is cruising towards crossing the milestone of 200 flights but the IAF is worried the much-hyped fighter will again fail to meet the already revised deadlines. ”Going by the current progress, it will be a miracle if we are able to induct two squadrons of the fully-operational LCA by 2015” says a senior IAF officer.
bestfighterpilot 1 year ago 3
@bestfighterpilot
When digging for water the scouting and digging are supposed to be the hard part and after that the extraction of water is easy. Similarly the R&d for a totally new aircraft was the hard part once we have the necessary infrastructure and know how in place the rest comes relatively easily... The LCA is awaiting its initial operational clearance(ioc) but ones everything goes smoothly the MK1 and MK2 variants is what India is looking forward too.
TheBonnerking 1 year ago
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news update! === "IAF Gets Tejas In One Week"
TheBonnerking 1 year ago
LCA is from the design -dassault, FBW-Lockheed,Radar-Israel, to everything is dependent on foriegn assistance. For all the assistance provided by aerospace gaints--Dassault, BAE to Lockheed Martin, LCA still will be going back to drawing boards. India’s attempt at indigenous production of weapons has been a colossal failure the likes of which do not exist in the annals of military history. I wonder how long will it take for the LCA probably another decade?
AmericanRaptor1 1 year ago 3
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@AmericanRaptor1
Cut the crap. if u got to spew shit then at least get u facts straight , Tejas fully Indigenous except for its engine and the Kaveri is still in testing phase . The desperate and envious tone clearly suggests that ur comment isn't capable of convincing anyone but some stupid Pakistanis and ur retarded small mind
TheBonnerking 1 year ago
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I notice a lot of the trolls on this thread are pakistanis - get a life you guys!! A jet aircraft is no easy task to build. the europeans have a century of experience and took ages with the Typhoon which combined the resources of the whole continent. besides unless u somehow have access to top secret information from indias fighter program your not really qualified to say much are youll?? now quit messing around on youtube threads and start fixing ur country!!
Andre8869 1 year ago
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@Andre8869
i guess you don't like Pakistan. lolz
well done India on its great achievement. Pakistan should learn few things from India.
zeeshan8love 1 year ago
@zeeshan8love theres nothing to lol about. I see theres been an assasination in your country because someone purportedly insulted mohammed...need I say any more??
Andre8869 1 year ago
@Andre8869
long time no see. nice to have your comment. i think media do not give you any good news from my country.
zeeshan8love 1 year ago
@zeeshan8love probably because there isnt any
Andre8869 1 year ago
@Andre8869
its a big country there is always some good and bad.
zeeshan8love 1 year ago
@Andre8869
its a small video please have a look "/watch?v=51LiUJfLkKY"
zeeshan8love 1 year ago
This is a sweet looking aircraft!!! Indias tech industry seems to be moving into top gear..cant wait to see more...cheers all...
Andre8869 1 year ago
well those who are critizing dont know anything about aeronautics or engineering and are only reacting to like pesky rats and pigs on the bull shit of uneducated press or news or rumuors
actually this project not not only built a aircraft but a whole infrastructure and industry and experience backbone in the country for aeronautics so it took more time.
and shame on those mother fuckers who dont know any thing but just grumble.
MegaBrightsun 1 year ago
Look's like FC-1 Thunder with Delta Wing
phadil 1 year ago
@phadil
But the LCA is not anywhere near the prowess of the FC-1.
conworldus 1 year ago 3
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@conworldus
U joking rite? The JF 17 is a realy average aircraft .. its has weak maneuvering and a low fuel capacity weaker than the F 16.
The Tejas has already ousted the mirage 2000 and the F16 in its flight test ..the rest time will tell it still has a lot of room for improvement .
TheBonnerking 1 year ago
Induction of a fully operational LCA in IAF facing delays due to following problems.1.Local Multi mode radar program ended in failure,now Israelis’ are working on new MMR.2.If MMR is completed,integration issues of an imported radar to the aircraft.3.Complete weapons suite needs to be resolved (just dummy missile trials as yet).4.Complete Weaponization of LCA still pending and it is not confirmed even some sources said that one prototype of LCA was blown up while firing a missile over Goa.
flanker35su 1 year ago 4
India is just making its false claims for LCA in order to influence the the world due to the failure of LCA.LCA will be outdated by the time it comes out in full production and India induct it into the services completely by 2015. Actually its already outdated.What a waste of time and money.I can’t figure out India when it comes to projects like Arjun and LCA. The Arjun-project started in 1972 and now almost 40 years later all they have to show for are prototypes, same story with LCA.
khanf7pg 1 year ago 4
LCA was suppose to be indigenous, a task that proved to be to difficult and there is not many "indigenous" key-systems in the air craft today. LCA has some major problems as it seems now, the most important one being a lack of thrust, the testflights have only reached M1.2 and 4Gs, not exactly impressive for a multi-role fighter.The Indians don´t know which engine to fit in the LCA since their "indigenous" Kaveri-engine is years from working, if it will work at all.
Askywarrior 1 year ago 5
@Askywarrior let me tell u one thing, when a war takes place between india nd pakistan, sara dud ka duh paani ka paani ho jaega bhai mere, tab pta chaljaega ki tejas mein kya kharavi hai, time time di gal a mitra!!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
@MrJefe29 Let me tell real thing to you,your brave pilot with high tech(if it true) aircraft cross pakistan air space after mumbai incident but when PAF interceptor chased your pilot ran with his tail behind legs PAF pilot took its photograph which later presented even to Americans,truth you cannot refute.
shamidfdg 11 months ago
@shamidfdg oh man so ur in d army , so d army general who clicked d photo wid his chinnesse phone showed u that pic before sending it to the americans!! lool we have all right to attack any country if we know dat country attacked us, it was a show of power nd a warning by india by entering ur airspace , we didn't wanted to hurt ur country bt just wanted to show u wat india cn do!!, if they really wanted war then wud have straightly attacked ur military base!! think abt dat too!!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
@shamidfdg if we have defeated u in numerous wars then we cn again defeat u, bt we don't want war because we know dat pakistan is being governed by bunch of immature people, who cn start a nuclear war, bt mature indian politicians don't want to end dis world!! so we try to avoid any nuclear war!! if there a war india cn wipe of pakistan in a week's time bt both india and pakistan will suffer nd maybe d world will also!
MrJefe29 11 months ago
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american F-16 is much better jetfighter
bestamerica 1 year ago
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Tie a porki to the missile and fire, tie this howardhughes, american raptor, Imflyingeagle, this is the same guy with xle id. Sorry porki btiches! rofl
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
See whatever it is they have a job to complete and the final product should meet a User Acceptance Test. This is just horrible project management nothing else.
The basic premise of this LCA is a vestige of 1980. Its older than probably the average age of an Indian AF active duty pilot. That aint cutting edge!
So get more exotic on the “requirements” and then fail at producing any results. Its called “hauwka”(greed). It gets nowhere.
Howard0Hughes 1 year ago 13
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@Howard0Hughes
Yeah yeah, same comment everywhere! what a D-bag. What a loser! hahaha, Tejas will fry your Junk fighter aka tin box man. Now go ride that camel, you camel piss drinking whores! You have no industry to even make a tri cycle. There are some old sugar mills owned by big shots like your PM and Sharief and 10%. Even some of these sugar mills were established before independence, Bitches! For Now, just fuckin float on the water and eat India's 5 million. CUNTS!
TheBharath2010 1 year ago
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@TheBharath2010 Man, "aviatormikehunter, ImFlyingEagle, flanker35su, fighterpilot65, bestfighterpilot, pafsbzkhan, AmericanRaptor1, Howard0Hughes, Askywarrior".........these are all but the same person. An obsessed maniac, I guess. His ass might have been burnt during 65 war.
Apollo13143 1 year ago
Here are the facts given by DRDo about LCA
Tranche-1
20 under powered "not just the engine" LCA by 215
20 still under powered LCA by 2017
Tranche-2
?? LCA required by IAF in 2020
Tranche-3
only by 2024 will their be any LCA with Kavir engine AESA radar and isreali avionics will be ready for IOC for now i think indians are in big state of denial which will bring a phonological side effects to them.
AmericanRaptor1 1 year ago 18
@AmericanRaptor1
these "facts" are not by DRDO they are by a fucking paki!
TheMilitarypower 1 year ago
@AmericanRaptor1 Thanks for ur concern.....It may be underpowered but we are happy with it...
saisathviknaidu 1 year ago