The Chomsky-Foucault Debate, 1

[cometbah]

I find it interesting that Foucault has actually paraphrased Bakunin:

'He who makes plans for after the revolution is a reactionary.'

[8bobthebuilder]

The comments on this video are so funny!

[HammerOvThor]

I feel like Foucault rarely finishes a thought. Maybe it's the translation.

[MrDeicide1]

@HammerOvThor He's waiting for the guitar solo : P

[l33tpwnzord]

Came in and realized this shit was way too smart for me.

[MrDeicide1]

@l33tpwnzord Nah, just wrapped in endless layers of bubble-wrap

[noiseklinik]

The main problem with postmodernists is that they are apolitical, they dont care about the radical change of the totality of social life but only about some changes at some certain institutions. I think that the world needs more thinkers like chomsky,castoriadis,debord and bookchin than those foucault,derrida and deleuze stuff.

[kuntyfucstik]

@noiseklinik

I wish to question yr assertion re: postmodernists. While many may seem politically nihilistic (and I'm sure many are bohemian or hedonistic in bent) the underlying cynicism which informs post-modernism must surely qualify as a political stance, in the sense of the great Hellenist tradition of cynical philosophy. To presume that whoever is in power is inherently corrupt and therefore seeking to criticise/ignore or otherwise downplay that power is an inherently political act.

[CuritaMisfits]

How and why in the world would anyone consider Noam Chomsky a linguistics professor when he ONLY speaks ONE LANGUAGE.

[woundedhamster]

@CuritaMisfits He speaks decent French and good Hebrew, possibly others too.

[EITrollo]

who is this bald fag and why doesn't he talk in english like he rest of the civilized world?

[totallyprudent49]

@EITrollo You dumb idiot,....That is Foucault you are talking about. The man whose work, who every arts and social science student in the world, have read at one point or another. I have not had a single class in which Foucault did not come up....clearly you are the uncivilized freak! what institution did you come out of???

[EITrollo]

@totallyprudent49 well, i'm intending to apply to chemistry department @ harward. i'm a brilliant student and i have only A's. i'm into real science though, not this "social and arts" shit. you guys need to stop chasing the smoke and come up with something measurable and workable. you need some firm ground and some system and method. otherwise it's all just empty talk, not unlike like this fuqeau egghead.

[totallyprudent49]

@EITrollo well, this "social science and art" stuff is really critical if you ask me. Otherwise, we have morons like you in the world, who can't string together a proper sentence. What in the world is Harward? I assume you mean Harvard? Even Harvard's chemistry department does not sink so low to admit people who can't spell and form proper sentences. And FYI, I myself am chemistry student as well! Not everything in the universe is quantifiable. First learn how to write sentences, then talk.

[EITrollo]

@totallyprudent49 no apologies yet? well, it's funny how you say "what institution did you come out of", as though institutions are what necessarily makes us "come out" one way or another. well, according to foucault they actually do, but that didn't prevent him from taking a power position in corrupted academic hierarchy so who is he to have a say in it.

[totallyprudent49]

@EITrollo Why can't you write in proper, grammatically correct sentences, like the rest of the civilized world!

[EITrollo]

@totallyprudent49 nothing was grammatically wrong with any of my sentences. re-read them and apologize.

and i'ts spelled harward, not harvard you moron! it's the best university in the world so you better learn how to spell it!

[Valelacerte]

@EITrollo The American Ivy League university of Harvard (harvard.edu) is spelled "Harvard".

[EITrollo]

@Valelacerte no, it's harward.

[mdine222]

Is that Sarkozy at 1:18?

[osharemind]

@mdine222 lol

[stinnetbennet]

i'm not fucking german how am i supposed to understand this nazi?

[PussiesUnite]

@stinnetbennet he's speaking French dumbass

[sicktoaster]

Not a fan of anarcho-anything, but I get the basic idea.

Why not have some government programs run starting at the local level but within broader federations, not imposed by state or federal governments but entered into voluntarily at the local level?

I could see how such a thing could evolve slowly over time, eventually providing major social services more efficiently than state or federal governments.

But it would need to evolve first.

[Midgardboa]

I think the main difference is that Chomsky is politicized while Foucault is more into critical perspectives, for instance he has a good point at aiming for a recursive problem solver attitude instead of a defined and static political position.

[zoomrealty]

@Midgardboa Very good insight!

[laboyrie]

@bromordra the subtitles are dutch, not german

[ASSBANG6969]

Drink Whisky and listen to this. Makes sense. Believe me....Love it....

[fpellim]

Chomsky didn't speek french as Foucault didn't speek english, both were confortable on their own languages, by the way it was in Sweden if I'm no mistaken, it was about ideas not about making cheap diplomacy trying to speek each other languages. my humble opinion.

[TheKillyWilly]

@fpellim Denmark, not Sweden.

[bobdy9988]

Pretty rude that Chomsky didn't speak French to Foucault

[bromordra]

@bobdy9988 Pretty rude that Foucault didn't speak English to Chomsky.

[bobdy9988]

@bromordra That's a fair point

[bromordra]

@bobdy9988 I actually think it would have been rude of either one of them to condescend to the other and speak in the other's native tounge.

[pacianofilm]

@bromordra ¿Por qué Chomnsky no habla francés? No digas pendejadas.

[bromordra]

@pacianofilm I don't speak german.

[Elpistolero29]

@bromordra

Why would he go out of his way to speak another tongue when his native language is french?

[bromordra]

@Elpistolero29 That's my point, but in reverse. Why would Chomsky go out of his way to speak another tongue when his native language is English?

[pacianofilm]

@bobdy9988 No das una.

[DawgBlog]

anarchy-communism is a utopian dream for misguided youth. This is the idea being all the ows movements, its dirty hippy day dreaming. 

[junskey]

@DawgBlog yeah, do you have any better ideas?

[khoroshoorange]

@junskey

no but hes very good at trolling on the internet.

[DanteWhite]

@DawgBlog and how would you support such a conclusion, being an anarchist myself , i am eager to see your views and debate

[DawgBlog]

@DanteWhite your a nigger and you deserve trash to eat. that is my conclusion, and btw suck a dick

[DanteWhite]

@DawgBlog so that is your argument against anarchism.......

[DawgBlog]

@DanteWhite DUDE YOUR A FUCKING RETARD I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DEBATING YOU. ANARCHY IS A JOKE, IT WILL NEVER EXIST, GET OVER IT ALL READY, COME BACK TO THE REAL WORLD AND GET A FUCKING JOB.

[DanteWhite]

@DawgBlog well you must have your reasons to think anarchy is a joke and that it will never exist(it existed in spain during the civil war and in pre-soviet ukraine for 3 years, not to metion for most of the early history of man-kind most notably hunther-gatherer societies) but i guess ur just afraid to get owned in a debate so you resort to such immature responses and i have a job by the way and i dont work for the state or any private capitalist corporation

[djs259]

Foucault smoked Chomsky

[johnnyborealis]

Sexy. Very sexy.

[oihhow]

!!