This setting is made for top speed only, if you got top speed then, you would had to sacrifice acceleration... when you came to corners...it would be useless...
a veyron has a maximum top speed of about 265 mph. A formula 1 car has a top speed of 256mph but only because the FIA made the F1 teams limit the engine. If they removed the limits of a F1 car then the F1 car would be have a much bigger top speed. And no car can accelerate as fast as a F! car.
@acewales1 I'm assuming you're not including funny cars and top fuel dragsters, but as far as road cars go, you're right about the acceleration rates. Top speed on an F1 car is tricky to come up with, since they can always change the gear ratios and in some cases, the aero package. For example, the car used for the 400kph run was technically legal by the F1 regs of the time, but would have been useless, even at Monza.
"A Veyron would smoke that!" Why is it that when anyone talks about anything related to vehicle performance some ignorant retard interrupts everyone screaming that?
f1 tyres are far more reliable than bugatti tyres. flat out, bugatti tyres will disintegrate in 15mins. F1's have to make their tyres last 30min sometimes flat out.
there is no comparison. a F1 car, is made specifically for one reason and one reason. to be the fastest car around a track. there are rules and limitations, there are design regulations etc. the technology in an F1 car far exceeds any modern road car.
No straight in F1 is long enough for a car to go any faster, so 400kmh is more than enough. why waste time and money on beating a road car's top speed when you'll never use that performance?
also the renault f1 car beat the veyron SS around the top gear track by 17 seconds, in the wet, on a 3km course. that tells you all you need to know.
F1 teams could quite easily make a 300 mph 'large base' 'F1 style' car - it would be slightly larger than existing F1 cars (but it would look quite like one). It would have far more downforce and vastly greater aerodynamics than any existing car at the Texas mile........ Someone like Ferrari could easily make a 2500 + hp engine for toffee if they wanted to..........and they've got the ability to integrate that with the car.
F1 does accelerate faster than anything on the street however it is the braking and corner speeds that make the biggest difference. The best road cars can pull 1.10 g's vs an F1 is very close to 6g's (from what I have seen myself)
i've gotta agree with rastamees on this i've watched f1 since i was a little lad and i've never seen anything around the 9g mark. And modern f1 cars have so much more downforce than they used to so corner speeds are generally up and they dont hit anywhere near 9gs
What would F1 look like if they had turbo engines, ground effect and active suspension at the same time. Nothing in the world could match it (not that it can now :D)
Just last year a Twin turbo Lamborghini ran 250.1mph in one mile while the Road and Track Veyron ran it only at 209mph. The SS Veyron ran it at 219mph. Im not trying to argue that any car is better than another, Im just trying to show you guys that they are many cars out their that are actually faster than in a veyron in acceleration and top speed...They are however tuned cars and not production stock.
You can tune cars to insane amounts of horsepower. I've seen a Toyota Supra which had 1067hp on the dyno, and did the 1/4 under 9 seconds (it was with drag-slicks though). But that is never going to last a fraction as long with that power like the Veyron is, which is designed to take that power daily, for years, rather than a few seconds on a drag strip every now and then.
Also the Veyron is rock stable and safe at 250mph, what about those tuned cars? Death traps I bet.
@McLarenMercedes Im sure that Lamborghini Gallardos are more than stable at high speed. They are engineered just as well as any other exotic. Plus I highly doubt people would be going 260mph in them if they thought they weren't safe.
Safety is relative. In 400+km/h (250+ mph) there's very little room for error, and the tyres and pretty much every other part are subjected to some serious forces. If something breaks...
To break records daredevils are willing to try any death trap of a car. Back in 1905 they did 120mph on a beach with a Darracq. That car was just a huge V8 engine, on a flimsy looking frame and really thin wheels. There wasn't even wind protection
@DerrickLouie at 250 mph the gallardo's wheel would shred and explode sending the car flying out of control. yes, but before that happens the car would lift up and flip into the air because they dont have enough downforce to keep them on the ground. lambos are fast... compared to average road cars, but for compared to race cars, HA there a joke
@blacksoilder10 what? Dude the Underground Racing Gallardos have already run 250mph and nothing exploded or flew into the air lol. If you ever get the chance, go to the Texas Mile and you will see TONS of cars running 220-250mph without any of the problems you listed.
@blacksoilder10 no worries man. The Underground Racing Gallardos have about $100,000-$150,000 into them. The have fully built motors, a custom twin turbo setup, custom gearsets, custom suspension, and a complete standalone MoTec M800 ECU. These cars make anywhere from 1050whp-1920whp and are currently the fastest cars at the Texas mile.
Bernd Rosemeyer drove his Auto Union streamliner to 270mph+ in January 1938, on the newly made German Autobahn. That record is still the highest ever reached speed on public roads. Rudolf Carraciola did 268mph with the Mercedes the same day, so Rosemeyer wanted the record back to Auto Union. He apparently did 274mph in one direction but was caught in a crosswind on the way back, crashed and died.
High speed cars is nothing new. Safe cars high speed cars for normal drivers is.
People need to realize that the Veyron isn't that fast in terms of acceleration. Sure it can go 254mph, but it takes almost 4 miles to get there. Plus it only traps about 142-145mph in the 1/4 mile. There are MANY MANY MANY cars that trap faster than that in the1/4 mile. Road and Track tested a 2002 F1 car and it ran the 1/4 in an 8.9 sec @ 190mph 1/4 mile. This is WWAAAYYY faster than a Veyron. Like not even comparable to each other. Also most of the Texas Mile cars run faster than a Veyron...
Well a F1 car isn't road legal. If Bugatti weren't forced to design a car which complies with today's emission levels, noise levels and only needed to design an engine which isn't going to last more than 2 races (like a F1 car engine is designed to) they could make their car way faster.
They made it very smooth, reliable and driveable, which combined with that amount of power is remarkable engineering. Tuned cars are usually indriveable with twitchy characterstics.
@McLarenMercedes "They made it very smooth, reliable and driveable, which combined with that amount of power is remarkable engineering." ... honestly Veyron is weird, pointless (W16?? WTF!?!?) and everything but RELIABLE... ;)
But, if you compare a lap by an F1 car with a lap by any other single seat race car, looking at the two on a graph, the greatest difference is in how late an F1 car brakes and how much faster it corners. 0-60mph in just over 2 seconds is fast, but less than a second quicker than the fastest road cars.
You have to compare race cars with race cars, however. And believe me, when you look at lap graphs, the acceleration isn't what stands out.
@tonylockhart1963 A Formula 1 car can accelerate from 0-100 mph and back to 0 mph in about 7 seconds, with that said, it seems that Formula 1 cars definitely are 'about' acceleration as well; and, not to mention the (up to) 5g acceleration generated in fast corners.
f1 you have to respect it. hahaha what is buggati?? what is that desing. realy i find this desing stuped desing.no face. it look like a box of som things.
stop comparing f1 to other "cars'' yes cars,the f1 are racing "machines" cars are comfortable and everyday use. i know not everybody that owns a buggati runs everyday or do they?but still.cannot compare theres no way, no way you could speak of them in the same subject,.theres a reason why f1 cannot run in streets.
aren't you guys get bored through the years by telling 12 year old kids that they shouldn't compare F1 with gayron or a Fiat Punto or any other road car? they'll never understand-.-"
People are actually trying to compare a Bugatti Veyron to a Grand Prix racing machine here? Seriously? Dear lord. At the time this was filmed, Honda was producing 'Suzuka Special' V10s for their F1 cars that were 3.0L normally aspirated engines that revved to nearly 20,000 rpm and broke the 1000hp barrier. Couple that with a chassis that weighs 1320lbs. It's not that an F1 car couldn't be much faster than a Veyron. It's that they aren't designed to be. Step back into reality, folks.
It's interesting ,indeed, that , apart the aspiration difference, F1 need to be scraped from all appendix to reach 413 kmh with it's own Power to weight ratio, and Bugatti on the other side reach 407 kmh with 1000HP without removing nothing .
Not a criticism , but 1000hp is 1000hp even on an aspirated.
Remain the fact that F1 wins hand down on every circuit
@Dante1969 Understand that, even with appendages removed, an F1 car has much more downforce than a Veyron. To put it bluntly, comparing the two cars is downright unintelligent. Grand Prix cars are infinitely more developed than even the most exotic, advanced road going machines. The Bugatti was designed from the get-go to break the 250mph+ barrier. Grand Prix cars are designed with the sole purpose of traversing a racing circuit faster than their competition.
@Dante1969 Give a Grand Prix team a chance to develop a car designed to break the 250mph barrier in the same manner that the Veyron was, and you'll probably get a car capable of 400mph. Remember, an F1 car is designed to *handle* at speeds over 200mph as well. A Bugatti can hit tremendous top speeds, but have fun trying to negotiate a turn in a street car above 200mph. Again, comparing a road car with an F1 car is pretty much ridiculous.
see the people at honda clearly know what their doing. it's a shame honda has been ruined by those idiots who put bike exhausts on their civics. honda engineering is some of the best in the world no matter what anybody says. plus what it costs to build one of these you's probably spend more on the stupid veyron.
@Dagashi6669 no, you said downforce was necessary, im saying to set speed records you dont have downforce as it causes drag. However the frong wing will still be attached to stop the car flying over bumps
And another thing I've seen a few comments about some ppl think a veron is faster than an f1 car well i've seen an interview with jenson button (who owns a veyron) and he said in it that no road car is close to an f1 car in performance even his veyron as fast as it is its still not near to the performance or sensation of an f1 car. With all due respect i think he would know better than any of us on youtube
@2781smithy In terms of speed, the only way a Veyron would beat an F1 car would be the top speed, but by the time the Veyron was at top speed, it would even be able to see the F1 car.
I've just read about this. This isat the end of '05 when Honda brought B.A.R and wanted to do an F1 speed record to celebrate and had just enough wing at the front to stop the car from taking off (lol) But unfortuntly it had a movable rubber flap on it for stabilty so therefore wasn't allowed (cos of f1's rule on movable aero bits).
@MrUnfundedtony Bugatti is an egineering fail. the ssc ultimate aero has half the engine, more power, way more mpg (22 highway vs 10 mpg highway for bugatti) and actually has the potential to get at least get close to beating the F1. The Veyron is unrealistic and is a very poor idea.
@supercool97 Bugatti designed the Veyron for one reason (regardless of cost)
To be the fastest production car on the planet. It has succeeded quite easily even after the Ultimate aero came along it answered back with the SS.
The main difference between the Veyron and SSC is drivability. You have to be a racing driver to extract the power of the SSC whereas anyone can take the Veyron to 260+mph - James May proved that!
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i said i would race an f1 car. not a bonnevile trimmed f1 car. im talking fia setup vs: THE CAR period. and anyway im pretty sure ther veyron would still win.
A Formula one car has very "bad" aerodynamic coefficient. In fact worse than a truck. thats beacuse its wings are designed to provide downforce. The downforce is so high, that over 150 kph a formula 1 car could be driven on an upside down track, it would stick to the "ceiling". If you lift off your foot from the gas, it slows down so instantly that it could break your neck, and its becauese the high CX.
the bugatti veyron has a 16 cyl engine capable of 260 mph that how fast the test driver was going when he gave up cuz he was scared. the f1 car would have it off the line bt the veyron would win the race if it were a mile or longer straight line race. and you cant argue with this because its fact watch top gear
no i mean a true formula one vehicle. hell ill even give you the 93 williams(the most technologically advanced f1 racer ever built!). and you'll drive away off the line but about the 1/2 mile when your topped out at 215 ill still be acelerating and flying right by at 260!
The standing mile for the Veyron is 25.9 at 205mph (Road & Track) , standing mile for an F1 car (a 2002 Jaguar - Autocar) is 22.3 - having already topped out at 215 a bit before the mile. A bit of maths shows the F1 car around 300 meters ahead at the mile marker !
In short if you want to beat one in a Veyron you'd better find a LONG straight
f1 car has 3 times power to weight ratio then a bugatti! the f1 car will own a veyron on track or runway!!!
0-160mph 0-270kph in 6 secs bye bye veyron
i am laughing so bad people saying the veyron will win or be right up with a f1 car stupid idiots. f1 car pulls up to 5g underbraking or acclerating...
@DanielKalchev the longest track is the nurburgring and even a production car like a r35 GTR can beat the veyron and it only cost $150,000AUD .............. Veyron is nothing special just some guy with a lot of money wasted it on making a car that cant beat a production car.
@tateelun 5g in corners and under breaking. Probably less than 2g peaks while accelerating 0-270 km/h in 6 sec is average of less than 1,3g over the whole 6 seconds.
Actually depend about bolid. F1 bolids from 2000-2005 with most powerful naturally aspirated engines ever ruled the earth (950bhp minimum and 1100bhp maximum @19500 rpm limited) are capable produce between 1.5 and 2G of accelerating from 0-300km/h in 8.3 seconds according to F1 Honda and F1 BMW.
Underbraking is more fabulous over 4G from 200km/h to 0 (watch) in 3 seconds!!!!
Cornering is root of Formula 1 5G-6G is maximum, 3.5G average almost all 100 minutes of race.
@tateelun Actually, you're wrong. The new Bugatti Veyron Super Sport can accelerate from 0-100mph 0-160kph in 4.5 seconds, and it's not to 0-160mph that the F1 car can reach in 6 seconds, it's to 120mph. I'm very confident the SS doesn't need 1.5 secs to accelerate 20mph more.
@odyma43 shut the fuck up... an f1 car reaches 0-300 kmh in about 8.5 seconds, dont talk shit about f1 unless you really know what the fuck you're talking about...
@odyma43 the f1 does 0-150 mph in 5s, i've seen on top gear bitch, the veyron is much slower, dont try to compare a 950hp(v10) f1 with 500kg against a 1200hp veyron with 1700kg, it doesnt make any sense, the f1 rapes the veyron
@tateelun f1 the have to respect it. hahaha what is buggati?? what is that desing. realy i find this desing stuped desing.no face. it look like a box of som things.
I have an entire f1 season video in it it has a nigel mansell qualify clip featuring onboard video of him doing a lap at silverstone with him providing commentary onhis lap obviously overdubbed later and explains the gear changes braking ect and the 9 to 10 Gs that a driver experiences in some of the corners,I will take his word over yours any day he is right you are wrong.I would upload the entire video but it's 16 races in 1 single vid file,to large to put on here.
@rastamees OK you know more about F1 cars cornering speeds and everything else than Nigell Mancell does
How the hell did he ever win a world championship when people like you know more than he does and you've never even raced in a car.From now on when I watch those classic F1 races I'm going to completely ignore Mancells after race comments and come on here and ask you what it i was like and fast they were going because F1 drivers don't know shit and you everything
"Higher-speed corners such as Blanchimont (Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps) and Copse (Silverstone Circuit) are taken at above 5.0g, and 6.0g has been recorded at Suzuka's 130-R corner.[18] This contrasts with 1g for the Enzo Ferrari, one of the best racing sports cars."
@rastamees take into account that lap was a qualifying lap not a race lap qualifying is much faster because they don't have to worry about tire wear and things like that.
Shagohod??? what a stupid name...sounds like something from one of the idiotic Austin Powers movies (a series of movies, BTW, that can only do well in the USA - the land of the couchpotatohead)...shagolicious, babeee!!! Oh well, it least this vid is not about a bunch of rednecks talking about Nascar (The preferred motor"sport" of the American couch potato) !!! Lemans and Grand Prix and 24 Hours of Daytona are REAL racing.
bugatti not buggati. and 253mph versus 256, OMFG WHAT A DIFFERENCE! the ssc has more than 1150hp while the bugatti.. well we all know it has 1001hp, so which one's better? the bugatti has a slight better acceleration too, so shut the hell up with your bullshit twinturbofaggot
@thanhdinh100 I'm sure if F1 cars where set up for it they could beat it!
TheAirsoftmadman 14 hours ago
Arent they supposed to have spoilers?
NascarFan738 1 month ago
This setting is made for top speed only, if you got top speed then, you would had to sacrifice acceleration... when you came to corners...it would be useless...
kogarasumaru1000 2 months ago
Who think F1 cars should do 500 MPH
TheAirsoftmadman 3 months ago 3
@TheAirsoftmadman sorry dude, this is F1. It is not Thrust SSC. lol
thanhdinh100 1 day ago
They must do that with the Ferrari from 2004 :DDD
Marko130000 3 months ago
"-Hey,why don't we put a shitty music over the V10 Honda engine? F1 fans will sure like it!
-YEAH let's do it!"
Jamirofan89 3 months ago
put wheel covers on, this things would be good for another 30 clicks at least.
muddwell 4 months ago
a veyron has a maximum top speed of about 265 mph. A formula 1 car has a top speed of 256mph but only because the FIA made the F1 teams limit the engine. If they removed the limits of a F1 car then the F1 car would be have a much bigger top speed. And no car can accelerate as fast as a F! car.
acewales1 7 months ago
@acewales1 I'm assuming you're not including funny cars and top fuel dragsters, but as far as road cars go, you're right about the acceleration rates. Top speed on an F1 car is tricky to come up with, since they can always change the gear ratios and in some cases, the aero package. For example, the car used for the 400kph run was technically legal by the F1 regs of the time, but would have been useless, even at Monza.
gturner38 7 months ago
and ruin the vid with music
fatnickthefathead 7 months ago
"A Veyron would smoke that!" Why is it that when anyone talks about anything related to vehicle performance some ignorant retard interrupts everyone screaming that?
fatnickthefathead 7 months ago
f1 tyres are far more reliable than bugatti tyres. flat out, bugatti tyres will disintegrate in 15mins. F1's have to make their tyres last 30min sometimes flat out.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA bugatti veyron's tyre last for a short time at top speed because of the car weight (almost 2000kg). f1 car only weigh around 600-700 kg.
theundeadx 4 months ago
there is no comparison. a F1 car, is made specifically for one reason and one reason. to be the fastest car around a track. there are rules and limitations, there are design regulations etc. the technology in an F1 car far exceeds any modern road car.
no car will beat an F1 Car around a Track.
babystinky 7 months ago
whats that song?
michelinazo 8 months ago 8
@lukezappe they took it off because they don't need the downforce. The wing holds it down for a turn. They don't need it on a straight away.
BeauKnight96 8 months ago
wtf cheating taking the wing off in a race u cant do that it makes it faster wtf
lukezapper 8 months ago
No straight in F1 is long enough for a car to go any faster, so 400kmh is more than enough. why waste time and money on beating a road car's top speed when you'll never use that performance?
also the renault f1 car beat the veyron SS around the top gear track by 17 seconds, in the wet, on a 3km course. that tells you all you need to know.
thesurgeon 8 months ago
Whats the name of this model? please reply!
kuikoman 9 months ago
@kuikoman This is the Honda RA105 I think. The Formula 1 car Honda used for the 2005 season.
rvind92g 9 months ago
F1 teams could quite easily make a 300 mph 'large base' 'F1 style' car - it would be slightly larger than existing F1 cars (but it would look quite like one). It would have far more downforce and vastly greater aerodynamics than any existing car at the Texas mile........ Someone like Ferrari could easily make a 2500 + hp engine for toffee if they wanted to..........and they've got the ability to integrate that with the car.
5tgb6yhn5tgb 9 months ago
@5tgb6yhn5tgb no, they couldn't make a car like that "easily"
even if they could, they wouldnt since it would be far too difficult for the driver to control
MrYousafBajwa 9 months ago
F1 does accelerate faster than anything on the street however it is the braking and corner speeds that make the biggest difference. The best road cars can pull 1.10 g's vs an F1 is very close to 6g's (from what I have seen myself)
motogpfan46rossi 10 months ago
i've gotta agree with rastamees on this i've watched f1 since i was a little lad and i've never seen anything around the 9g mark. And modern f1 cars have so much more downforce than they used to so corner speeds are generally up and they dont hit anywhere near 9gs
SuperFlembob 11 months ago
@SuperFlembob i have to respectfully disagree .
i believe that the most downforce was in 1994 .
the figures are pretty secret .
i wish they kept 1990 downforce and kept the wide front tires
mushrume 10 months ago
What would F1 look like if they had turbo engines, ground effect and active suspension at the same time. Nothing in the world could match it (not that it can now :D)
Wiskoify 11 months ago
they should change the gear ratios to reach 400mph
Also I want to see one of these things driving on a tunnel ceiling, even if its remote controlled
jbrun009 1 year ago
Just last year a Twin turbo Lamborghini ran 250.1mph in one mile while the Road and Track Veyron ran it only at 209mph. The SS Veyron ran it at 219mph. Im not trying to argue that any car is better than another, Im just trying to show you guys that they are many cars out their that are actually faster than in a veyron in acceleration and top speed...They are however tuned cars and not production stock.
DerrickLouie 1 year ago
@DerrickLouie
You can tune cars to insane amounts of horsepower. I've seen a Toyota Supra which had 1067hp on the dyno, and did the 1/4 under 9 seconds (it was with drag-slicks though). But that is never going to last a fraction as long with that power like the Veyron is, which is designed to take that power daily, for years, rather than a few seconds on a drag strip every now and then.
Also the Veyron is rock stable and safe at 250mph, what about those tuned cars? Death traps I bet.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Im sure that Lamborghini Gallardos are more than stable at high speed. They are engineered just as well as any other exotic. Plus I highly doubt people would be going 260mph in them if they thought they weren't safe.
DerrickLouie 11 months ago
@DerrickLouie
Safety is relative. In 400+km/h (250+ mph) there's very little room for error, and the tyres and pretty much every other part are subjected to some serious forces. If something breaks...
To break records daredevils are willing to try any death trap of a car. Back in 1905 they did 120mph on a beach with a Darracq. That car was just a huge V8 engine, on a flimsy looking frame and really thin wheels. There wasn't even wind protection
Gallarod's aren't designed with 260mph in mind
McLarenMercedes 10 months ago
@DerrickLouie at 250 mph the gallardo's wheel would shred and explode sending the car flying out of control. yes, but before that happens the car would lift up and flip into the air because they dont have enough downforce to keep them on the ground. lambos are fast... compared to average road cars, but for compared to race cars, HA there a joke
blacksoilder10 10 months ago
@blacksoilder10 what? Dude the Underground Racing Gallardos have already run 250mph and nothing exploded or flew into the air lol. If you ever get the chance, go to the Texas Mile and you will see TONS of cars running 220-250mph without any of the problems you listed.
DerrickLouie 10 months ago
@DerrickLouie yeah i just watched the video of it.... damn ok , i just thought that lambos couldnt go that fast
:( what kinda modifactions do they have on them?
blacksoilder10 10 months ago
@blacksoilder10 no worries man. The Underground Racing Gallardos have about $100,000-$150,000 into them. The have fully built motors, a custom twin turbo setup, custom gearsets, custom suspension, and a complete standalone MoTec M800 ECU. These cars make anywhere from 1050whp-1920whp and are currently the fastest cars at the Texas mile.
DerrickLouie 10 months ago
@DerrickLouie WOW that is rediculisly fast. someday ill have to visit this place and see it for my sself
blacksoilder10 10 months ago
@McLarenMercedes the veryon is safe at those speeds.... for about 2 min until the tires start ot melt.
blacksoilder10 10 months ago
@DerrickLouie
Bernd Rosemeyer drove his Auto Union streamliner to 270mph+ in January 1938, on the newly made German Autobahn. That record is still the highest ever reached speed on public roads. Rudolf Carraciola did 268mph with the Mercedes the same day, so Rosemeyer wanted the record back to Auto Union. He apparently did 274mph in one direction but was caught in a crosswind on the way back, crashed and died.
High speed cars is nothing new. Safe cars high speed cars for normal drivers is.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
People need to realize that the Veyron isn't that fast in terms of acceleration. Sure it can go 254mph, but it takes almost 4 miles to get there. Plus it only traps about 142-145mph in the 1/4 mile. There are MANY MANY MANY cars that trap faster than that in the1/4 mile. Road and Track tested a 2002 F1 car and it ran the 1/4 in an 8.9 sec @ 190mph 1/4 mile. This is WWAAAYYY faster than a Veyron. Like not even comparable to each other. Also most of the Texas Mile cars run faster than a Veyron...
DerrickLouie 1 year ago
@DerrickLouie
Well a F1 car isn't road legal. If Bugatti weren't forced to design a car which complies with today's emission levels, noise levels and only needed to design an engine which isn't going to last more than 2 races (like a F1 car engine is designed to) they could make their car way faster.
They made it very smooth, reliable and driveable, which combined with that amount of power is remarkable engineering. Tuned cars are usually indriveable with twitchy characterstics.
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@McLarenMercedes "They made it very smooth, reliable and driveable, which combined with that amount of power is remarkable engineering." ... honestly Veyron is weird, pointless (W16?? WTF!?!?) and everything but RELIABLE... ;)
Vincioss 6 months ago
Over 250mph
pstchaseki 1 year ago
But, if you compare a lap by an F1 car with a lap by any other single seat race car, looking at the two on a graph, the greatest difference is in how late an F1 car brakes and how much faster it corners. 0-60mph in just over 2 seconds is fast, but less than a second quicker than the fastest road cars.
You have to compare race cars with race cars, however. And believe me, when you look at lap graphs, the acceleration isn't what stands out.
tonylockhart1963 1 year ago
Sorry. F1 cars are about braking and cornering. Not so much about acceleration.
tonylockhart1963 1 year ago
@tonylockhart1963 A Formula 1 car can accelerate from 0-100 mph and back to 0 mph in about 7 seconds, with that said, it seems that Formula 1 cars definitely are 'about' acceleration as well; and, not to mention the (up to) 5g acceleration generated in fast corners.
Lucariooooo 1 year ago
top speed veyron super sport is more fastest then formula 1 .. the special of formula 1 is the accelaration ..
aciducen1995 1 year ago
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aciducen1995 1 year ago
an f1 car can go up to more than 290 mph if the engineers put the setup for that
andreveiguinha 1 year ago
@grecia6 1.6 sec
mrskdful 1 year ago
how fast will it do in 0-60
grecia6 1 year ago
@grecia6 1.9s
andreveiguinha 1 year ago
Well the bugatti very need a huge track reach that speed, and the f1 car doesnt besides the f1 car reaches the 400 kmh quicker than the bugatti does
ferschwanstain 1 year ago
f1 you have to respect it. hahaha what is buggati?? what is that desing. realy i find this desing stuped desing.no face. it look like a box of som things.
if you put 2 wings for it will be like a f 22
alabina96 1 year ago
@alabina96 U DONT THINK A F22 IS COOL? :O
NFGmediedag 1 year ago
@NFGmediedag yess cool
alabina96 4 months ago
stop comparing f1 to other "cars'' yes cars,the f1 are racing "machines" cars are comfortable and everyday use. i know not everybody that owns a buggati runs everyday or do they?but still.cannot compare theres no way, no way you could speak of them in the same subject,.theres a reason why f1 cannot run in streets.
roylanc19 1 year ago
dont know why but.. ilove that music :D
MeetTheFlanker 1 year ago
aren't you guys get bored through the years by telling 12 year old kids that they shouldn't compare F1 with gayron or a Fiat Punto or any other road car? they'll never understand-.-"
Jamirofan89 1 year ago
dad! i want one of those!
s8715053122004 1 year ago
Formula1 has 800 Brake Horse power??
Can't even move by one foot with 800 Horse braking!
The braking system on the Bugatti is about 1900 BRAKE HORSE power.
The Engine has 1000 HP. There is a huge difference
Dante1969 1 year ago
People are actually trying to compare a Bugatti Veyron to a Grand Prix racing machine here? Seriously? Dear lord. At the time this was filmed, Honda was producing 'Suzuka Special' V10s for their F1 cars that were 3.0L normally aspirated engines that revved to nearly 20,000 rpm and broke the 1000hp barrier. Couple that with a chassis that weighs 1320lbs. It's not that an F1 car couldn't be much faster than a Veyron. It's that they aren't designed to be. Step back into reality, folks.
veedub87 1 year ago
@veedub87
It's interesting ,indeed, that , apart the aspiration difference, F1 need to be scraped from all appendix to reach 413 kmh with it's own Power to weight ratio, and Bugatti on the other side reach 407 kmh with 1000HP without removing nothing .
Not a criticism , but 1000hp is 1000hp even on an aspirated.
Remain the fact that F1 wins hand down on every circuit
Dante1969 1 year ago
@Dante1969 Understand that, even with appendages removed, an F1 car has much more downforce than a Veyron. To put it bluntly, comparing the two cars is downright unintelligent. Grand Prix cars are infinitely more developed than even the most exotic, advanced road going machines. The Bugatti was designed from the get-go to break the 250mph+ barrier. Grand Prix cars are designed with the sole purpose of traversing a racing circuit faster than their competition.
veedub87 1 year ago
@Dante1969 Give a Grand Prix team a chance to develop a car designed to break the 250mph barrier in the same manner that the Veyron was, and you'll probably get a car capable of 400mph. Remember, an F1 car is designed to *handle* at speeds over 200mph as well. A Bugatti can hit tremendous top speeds, but have fun trying to negotiate a turn in a street car above 200mph. Again, comparing a road car with an F1 car is pretty much ridiculous.
veedub87 1 year ago
Bugatti Veyron vs F1
pisser95 1 year ago
see the people at honda clearly know what their doing. it's a shame honda has been ruined by those idiots who put bike exhausts on their civics. honda engineering is some of the best in the world no matter what anybody says. plus what it costs to build one of these you's probably spend more on the stupid veyron.
sk8tildeath91 1 year ago
Honda FTW!
Gosh it would be awesome to own an f1 car
BusterBlader910 1 year ago
Anyone else notice it had no rear wing?
I found it odd, even though it would cause drag I thought some downforce would have been necessary.
Dagashi6669 1 year ago
@Dagashi6669 if you want to do speed records, the car needs to be very slippery through the air, meaning no wings :)
jammydodgerman 1 year ago
@jammydodgerman
So you're repeating what I said back at me??
Dagashi6669 1 year ago
@Dagashi6669 no, you said downforce was necessary, im saying to set speed records you dont have downforce as it causes drag. However the frong wing will still be attached to stop the car flying over bumps
jammydodgerman 1 year ago
kiss that bugatti veyron record away!
34D2234 1 year ago
Honda :)
Em12k 1 year ago
I found on wikipedia that it is possible (in theory) for F1 to reach 0-100kmh in under 1.0sec!
Renault F1 car accelerates to 100kmh in 1.7sec!
Brutal!!!
No one car can beat F1 ! ! ! :)
ronaldinho99999999 1 year ago
@ronaldinho99999999 It's traction that's their achilles heel.
supercooled 1 year ago
@ronaldinho99999999 Actually a dragster can. Those big ass cars with huge wheels it's the only way to conceivably put down the power to the ground.
supercooled 1 year ago
this did 413 km/h bugati does 407 and bugatti has much more weight so bugatti is actually more powerful
MonTziK95 1 year ago
And another thing I've seen a few comments about some ppl think a veron is faster than an f1 car well i've seen an interview with jenson button (who owns a veyron) and he said in it that no road car is close to an f1 car in performance even his veyron as fast as it is its still not near to the performance or sensation of an f1 car. With all due respect i think he would know better than any of us on youtube
2781smithy 1 year ago 4
@2781smithy In terms of speed, the only way a Veyron would beat an F1 car would be the top speed, but by the time the Veyron was at top speed, it would even be able to see the F1 car.
Slashbag69 8 months ago
I've just read about this. This isat the end of '05 when Honda brought B.A.R and wanted to do an F1 speed record to celebrate and had just enough wing at the front to stop the car from taking off (lol) But unfortuntly it had a movable rubber flap on it for stabilty so therefore wasn't allowed (cos of f1's rule on movable aero bits).
2781smithy 1 year ago
its amazing how little people know about motorsport stuff etc on here
philvolvo 1 year ago
it's youtube what do you expect?
AlexDeLarge90 1 year ago
top gear lap time 1.18s a renault f1 car went in under a 1 min, some 20 seconds faster than the buggati.
membland 1 year ago
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bugatti will beat the f1,fuck f1!
MrUnfundedtony 1 year ago
bugati will only go 407km/h this does 413km/h
and the f1 does it way faster it does it on a runway the bugatti need a couple mile to do it
serbmafioso3 1 year ago
@MrUnfundedtony BUGATTI IS FUCKING SHIT
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97 suck my balls
MrUnfundedtony 1 year ago
@MrUnfundedtony Bugatti is an egineering fail. the ssc ultimate aero has half the engine, more power, way more mpg (22 highway vs 10 mpg highway for bugatti) and actually has the potential to get at least get close to beating the F1. The Veyron is unrealistic and is a very poor idea.
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97 u could still suck my balls :D
MrUnfundedtony 1 year ago
@MrUnfundedtony fag
supercool97 1 year ago
@supercool97 ur mom could also suck my balls
MrUnfundedtony 1 year ago
@supercool97 Bugatti designed the Veyron for one reason (regardless of cost)
To be the fastest production car on the planet. It has succeeded quite easily even after the Ultimate aero came along it answered back with the SS.
The main difference between the Veyron and SSC is drivability. You have to be a racing driver to extract the power of the SSC whereas anyone can take the Veyron to 260+mph - James May proved that!
pittsy98 1 year ago
Seriously guys, why is this topic even being debated?
A Veyron would get scorched by an F1 car flat out no way of getting around it.
LewisSoTranscendent 1 year ago
without F1 engineers and enginering, not exist World motorsport...
F1 technology is the school for all world motorsport series...
F1 is 10 steps up by others..
roby70juve 2 years ago 53
@roby70juve yes there still would have been, just not as good=)
kdub991 1 year ago
testa i minkia.....
F1 car in this test don't have his orizontal rear spoiler.. but have a vertical spoiler for high speed..
rest of car is standard by F.I.A. F1 regulations..
roby70juve 2 years ago 3
Cool video! I wish it had the audio instead of only music and talking.
GomerfromIsaan 2 years ago
notice the rear spoiler is removed...only nose wing is present
0jeeej0 2 years ago
less drag, they wanted max speed, not worried about downforce too much, because hes just driving in a straight line
cameron20020 2 years ago
it has so much downforce because wot would happen if it dident it would fly off to the fucking moon
natable1 2 years ago
l love F1 TECHNOLOGY
flyasfastasyoucan 2 years ago 4
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i said i would race an f1 car. not a bonnevile trimmed f1 car. im talking fia setup vs: THE CAR period. and anyway im pretty sure ther veyron would still win.
cnycarnut 2 years ago
A Formula one car has very "bad" aerodynamic coefficient. In fact worse than a truck. thats beacuse its wings are designed to provide downforce. The downforce is so high, that over 150 kph a formula 1 car could be driven on an upside down track, it would stick to the "ceiling". If you lift off your foot from the gas, it slows down so instantly that it could break your neck, and its becauese the high CX.
zagyex 2 years ago
spaceshisps beat evrything in price and speed 61000 kph ... and they can also turn :)
zagyex 2 years ago
the bugatti veyron has a 16 cyl engine capable of 260 mph that how fast the test driver was going when he gave up cuz he was scared. the f1 car would have it off the line bt the veyron would win the race if it were a mile or longer straight line race. and you cant argue with this because its fact watch top gear
cnycarnut 2 years ago
You mean Mclaren F1 not a Formula One car.
A veyron could possibly beat a Formula 1 car on a straight very long track, but not sure, the top speeds are about the same.
However when it comes into braking, accelerating and especially turning, the Formula one cars are unbeatable.
Even in price. The formula one cars are much more expensive than a veyron (about 6 times) .
but to run a formula 1 team costs about 100-400 million euros / year... :)
A TGV train owns everything but cann not turn : )
zagyex 2 years ago
no i mean a true formula one vehicle. hell ill even give you the 93 williams(the most technologically advanced f1 racer ever built!). and you'll drive away off the line but about the 1/2 mile when your topped out at 215 ill still be acelerating and flying right by at 260!
cnycarnut 2 years ago
But in this video the car was going at about 257 mph (413kph). And it is a few years old video, not todays f1 cars.
According to wikipedia, the bugatti veyrons recorded top speed was 408.47 kph so about 253.5 mph.
so this honda in the video is faster than the veyron ever was.
zagyex 2 years ago 4
Not quite... In fact not nearly !
The standing mile for the Veyron is 25.9 at 205mph (Road & Track) , standing mile for an F1 car (a 2002 Jaguar - Autocar) is 22.3 - having already topped out at 215 a bit before the mile. A bit of maths shows the F1 car around 300 meters ahead at the mile marker !
In short if you want to beat one in a Veyron you'd better find a LONG straight
HFStuart 2 years ago
f1 would beat veyron in straight when rolling....fact
Standingquiet 2 years ago 8
A F1 car is the fastest car that can go from point A to point B, being required to turn, brake and accelerate.
A ChampCar might be faster in oval tracks, but surely is slower in road tracks.
A Top Fuel Dragster owns everything when it comes to acceleration and top speed, but it cannot turn.
But still a Formula 1 is the most "complete" type of race car in track racing.
tifosaurus 2 years ago
you can attempt to turn with a dragster though, but i doubt it will actually do anything xD
Regret696 2 years ago
lol newuuuubs
crakrjakful 2 years ago
F1 car born to be faster in all tracks...
an indy car will be faster than a F1 in monaco or monza or Montreal or Hockenheim ?
ah..ah..ah....ah..ah..
your stupid american car , are slower 7 - 10 seconds for lap.. than a F1...
roby70juve 2 years ago 4
f1 car has 3 times power to weight ratio then a bugatti! the f1 car will own a veyron on track or runway!!!
0-160mph 0-270kph in 6 secs bye bye veyron
i am laughing so bad people saying the veyron will win or be right up with a f1 car stupid idiots. f1 car pulls up to 5g underbraking or acclerating...
tateelun 2 years ago 67
maybe they mean McLaren F1?
dqSOBERqd 2 years ago
dude, theres no way they pull 5g under acceleration.
muddwell 2 years ago
@tateelun still the veyron will be faster in long enough track :)
DanielKalchev 1 year ago
@DanielKalchev the longest track is the nurburgring and even a production car like a r35 GTR can beat the veyron and it only cost $150,000AUD .............. Veyron is nothing special just some guy with a lot of money wasted it on making a car that cant beat a production car.
iamwoodyr33 1 year ago
@DanielKalchev lol umm no it would not. you should google the veyrons top speed cuz the f1 just thrashed it to death.
13RuffRyder 1 year ago
@tateelun the veyron is a production car, of course it will be owned by an actual racing car
TheWarcraftMania 1 year ago
@tateelun 5g in corners and under breaking. Probably less than 2g peaks while accelerating 0-270 km/h in 6 sec is average of less than 1,3g over the whole 6 seconds.
ezko 1 year ago
@ezko
Actually depend about bolid. F1 bolids from 2000-2005 with most powerful naturally aspirated engines ever ruled the earth (950bhp minimum and 1100bhp maximum @19500 rpm limited) are capable produce between 1.5 and 2G of accelerating from 0-300km/h in 8.3 seconds according to F1 Honda and F1 BMW.
Underbraking is more fabulous over 4G from 200km/h to 0 (watch) in 3 seconds!!!!
Cornering is root of Formula 1 5G-6G is maximum, 3.5G average almost all 100 minutes of race.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@tateelun Actually, you're wrong. The new Bugatti Veyron Super Sport can accelerate from 0-100mph 0-160kph in 4.5 seconds, and it's not to 0-160mph that the F1 car can reach in 6 seconds, it's to 120mph. I'm very confident the SS doesn't need 1.5 secs to accelerate 20mph more.
odyma43 1 year ago
@odyma43 shut the fuck up... an f1 car reaches 0-300 kmh in about 8.5 seconds, dont talk shit about f1 unless you really know what the fuck you're talking about...
drascalov 1 year ago 18
@odyma43 the f1 does 0-150 mph in 5s, i've seen on top gear bitch, the veyron is much slower, dont try to compare a 950hp(v10) f1 with 500kg against a 1200hp veyron with 1700kg, it doesnt make any sense, the f1 rapes the veyron
andreveiguinha 1 year ago
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@tateelun f1 the have to respect it. hahaha what is buggati?? what is that desing. realy i find this desing stuped desing.no face. it look like a box of som things.
if you put 2 wings for it will be like a f 22
alabina96 1 year ago
@tateelun
biggest issue = f1, NOT a road car
HybriiD122 1 year ago
@HybriiD122 its tru, but the music is great, whats title? xd
essexxstar 1 year ago
@tateelun well, what about top speed? no race about time, but top speed
NFGmediedag 1 year ago
@tateelun yeah, f1 does 0-300 km/h in 8.6s, the veyron does about 17s, so cry the f1 takes half the time to 0-300 than the veyron needs to get there
andreveiguinha 1 year ago
@tateelun
haha wtf 5g accelerating or braking. are you dumb ? an f1 car will pull 5g in only the fastest bends
under braking or accelerating i would guess its 2g
rastamees 1 year ago
@rastamees try 9g in fast corners pal
edan1976 11 months ago
@edan1976
lol give me proof haha
Max around 5.5 Gs lateral
Around 1.5 Gs acceleration
Around 4 Gs braking
rastamees 11 months ago
@rastamees Proof
I have an entire f1 season video in it it has a nigel mansell qualify clip featuring onboard video of him doing a lap at silverstone with him providing commentary onhis lap obviously overdubbed later and explains the gear changes braking ect and the 9 to 10 Gs that a driver experiences in some of the corners,I will take his word over yours any day he is right you are wrong.I would upload the entire video but it's 16 races in 1 single vid file,to large to put on here.
edan1976 11 months ago
@edan1976
lol u really need to use a thing like this ---> .
and no, its impossible
ever heard of that red bull air race thing, where guys race airplanes ?
THEY pull 9g or more in the hardest turns
have you seen an onboard clip with the G meter ? specifically japan
it has one of the fastest corners in F1, and they pull 5g there
rastamees 11 months ago
@rastamees OK you know more about F1 cars cornering speeds and everything else than Nigell Mancell does
How the hell did he ever win a world championship when people like you know more than he does and you've never even raced in a car.From now on when I watch those classic F1 races I'm going to completely ignore Mancells after race comments and come on here and ask you what it i was like and fast they were going because F1 drivers don't know shit and you everything
edan1976 11 months ago
@edan1976
you still havent given me written evidence of your claims which are clearly preposterous.
mansell raced in the 90s, and youre saying that f1 cars were twice as fast as they are now ?
look at some fucking videos on youtube, look at wikipedia
and stop makin a fool of yourself.
rastamees 11 months ago
@rastamees Watch this video 40secs into it listen to commentary
/watch?v=BqpsO4eEkNQ and all cars have onboard telemetry as demonstrated in this vid
/watch?v=V8M7oWrjtx8
edan1976 11 months ago
@edan1976
wow, the dumbass really did say 9g
but he was mistaken because its impossible.
and i quite wikipedia:
"Higher-speed corners such as Blanchimont (Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps) and Copse (Silverstone Circuit) are taken at above 5.0g, and 6.0g has been recorded at Suzuka's 130-R corner.[18] This contrasts with 1g for the Enzo Ferrari, one of the best racing sports cars."
rastamees 11 months ago
@rastamees take into account that lap was a qualifying lap not a race lap qualifying is much faster because they don't have to worry about tire wear and things like that.
edan1976 11 months ago
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@edan1976
yes thats true
rastamees 11 months ago
@rastamees Crash is 50-100 G.....
rosun82 8 months ago
@rosun82
a crash can be even more than 200G
rastamees 8 months ago
v10 engine !!!
utente3893 2 years ago
what ıs song name
anatolman 2 years ago
OMG No diffuser, rear wing or front wing
I bet the wheel was locked in position cause that thing would NOT turn !
LOL though.. driver is a nutcase.
tjbayliss 2 years ago 4
how about the Mitsu built F1?
zephyroth14 2 years ago
only one mistake from the driver the car turn to dust..he3
zackdanialz 2 years ago
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muddwell 2 years ago
Just as I figured...the "shagohod" (a.k.a - "gettalife") is the product of pimple-faced MUDD gaming dweebs who have no real life. tsk tsk.
guitard777 2 years ago
Shagohod??? what a stupid name...sounds like something from one of the idiotic Austin Powers movies (a series of movies, BTW, that can only do well in the USA - the land of the couchpotatohead)...shagolicious, babeee!!! Oh well, it least this vid is not about a bunch of rednecks talking about Nascar (The preferred motor"sport" of the American couch potato) !!! Lemans and Grand Prix and 24 Hours of Daytona are REAL racing.
guitard777 2 years ago
The Shagohod can outrun both F1 and Bugatti. Shagohod's top speed is 300 mph.
GonzalesPaco1980 2 years ago
What the hell is a Shagohod?
serendipityuk 2 years ago
I don't wanna explain it to you directly for the thrill of it. Search it on Google or YouTube and you will be enlightened.
GonzalesPaco1980 2 years ago
Ahhh, lol!
serendipityuk 2 years ago
the the fuck is a shagohod
nycboriqua90 2 years ago
I don't wanna explain it to you directly for the thrill of it. Search it on Google or YouTube and you will be enlightened.
GonzalesPaco1980 2 years ago
what is Google?
zagyex 2 years ago
You can't fuckin be serious.
bjsdoc 2 years ago
rofl lol
SIipknoTl 2 years ago
SSC put a street car that does 256.....and its a street car......oh and its american.... Buggati what?
twinturbocobra 2 years ago
bugatti not buggati. and 253mph versus 256, OMFG WHAT A DIFFERENCE! the ssc has more than 1150hp while the bugatti.. well we all know it has 1001hp, so which one's better? the bugatti has a slight better acceleration too, so shut the hell up with your bullshit twinturbofaggot
fighetto46 2 years ago
this car can turn on a time. The Bugatti cannot.
EpiDemic117 2 years ago
And Americans wonder why Nascar is a laughing stock.
psychocycledad 2 years ago 7
wow 256mph thats amazing
pedro1693 2 years ago
thats faster than bugatti
cfcnlr 2 years ago 4
what is the sog? the name? honda is the best
garlopamartin 3 years ago 2