Stormclouds is still clinging on to the old system and may never change his views, who cares. I would be more inclined for Z movement to move towards a more tribal type of living. We need to look at the way the Amazonian indian live, they live with nature if we can change our thinking towards a more communal type of living change the way we live within this world, our lives will be more harmonious. How do we psychologically part with the need for materialism.
In all fairness to SCG he is only bringing up an alternative viewpoint to TZM. YT user TVPchallenge has openly challenged the world to do this so if there is any conflict it has been welcomed. His questions and concerns with the movement are very good IMHO. I think the movement needs to stop arguing with him in the fashion that they have been and start doing some real research. Claiming that he is ignorant is not the way to address his questions.
i completely agree that stormclouds is misinformed about the movement and what it is advocating, also after watching a couple of his vids about tzm he seems to just pick up on comments which are almost certainly from the people who are supporters of the movement but are the least informed and dont fully understand the movement themselves. possibly people who have watched the films and nothing more but, it only goes towards him making weak arguments against what the movement is about.
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bluenightfox 6 months ago
Stormclouds is still clinging on to the old system and may never change his views, who cares. I would be more inclined for Z movement to move towards a more tribal type of living. We need to look at the way the Amazonian indian live, they live with nature if we can change our thinking towards a more communal type of living change the way we live within this world, our lives will be more harmonious. How do we psychologically part with the need for materialism.
taamoko1 9 months ago
In all fairness to SCG he is only bringing up an alternative viewpoint to TZM. YT user TVPchallenge has openly challenged the world to do this so if there is any conflict it has been welcomed. His questions and concerns with the movement are very good IMHO. I think the movement needs to stop arguing with him in the fashion that they have been and start doing some real research. Claiming that he is ignorant is not the way to address his questions.
markpasky08 1 year ago
i completely agree that stormclouds is misinformed about the movement and what it is advocating, also after watching a couple of his vids about tzm he seems to just pick up on comments which are almost certainly from the people who are supporters of the movement but are the least informed and dont fully understand the movement themselves. possibly people who have watched the films and nothing more but, it only goes towards him making weak arguments against what the movement is about.
ramp2tramp 1 year ago