What? Yes the ALBUM, but this track is Alison Hell. I have the actual CD. It's a play on words, to sound like Alice In Hell. If you weren't so imperceptive, you would have picked up on that.
Maybe he sneaks in........Hell, I could use his vocal range, make sure he knows when I'm putting a demo together, lol....Killer range in this one, I didn't realize Waters had such a range! I do like the final, "official" studio version better, but I can't help but wonder if King didn't make a "geist" appearance here.
I totally agree. The first time I herd this song was covered in the roadrunner united concert, and this came after abigail.. with ripper owens in vocals, jeff and james murphy on guitars...
im probably gonna get a whole bunch of people mad but i have to say that this is wayyyy better than any of metallica's "thrash" mainstream bullshit. and way better than anything they can ever do. this is real thrash metal
Yeah, and mind you that Kirk Hammett is one sloppy motherfucker. Hammett aka wah-raping one-scale wonder is such amateur that he couldn't play Mustaine's material on original tempo when he joined Metallica. James has blown his voice voice, Ulrich's snare sounds shit as always and that new bassist is so average.
Ride the lightning, Metal Militia, Four Horsemen... Yeah, Dave Mustaine is genious!
UHHHHHH............No, Rob Trujillo is fuckin sick. I pretty much agree with you on everything else but that was totally not true. The dude has played with BLS, Ozzy, Metallica, Suicidal and a whole lot of killer metal bands. He is wicked and totally dominates the fucking stage, At least as good as Lomenzo in Megadeth.
im not saying that kirk and james are as good as jeff or that metallica is even good today im just saying you cant say there original stuff wasnt awsome
Excuse me, but Toberichmoe is right, this really sounds like death metal, and vocals DO a genre, aggressive thrash without harsh guttural voices is pure thrash, but with them, is Death Thrash. Also this demo isn't as fast and speedy as its successor that appears on Alice in Hell.
No, Death Thrash would be the incorporation of riffing and drumming styles from both genres. This is purely thrash. Plenty of pure thrash has harsh vocals, be they death style or not. Maybe if this was at the extreme end of thrash musically I could understand... but this is some of the more melodic thrash out there on the whole.
Actually, there were some notable differences musically. It's very notable that the riffing style became more focused (there was much less emphasis on pedal points in their melodies), the timing would become more complex. You can clearly hear these changes in the early intermediate albums between thrash and death metal. Sure, they're relatively small differences compared to the difference now, but the fact is that there was a clear musical difference even in the earliest examples of death metal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I just think it's unfair to belittle the transformation from thrash to death to nothing more than vocals. Sure, the vocals were changing right there at start, but so was the music. They went hand-in-hand. It wasn't just thrash with growls.
common misconception, death metal bands dont sing they growl. low growl to be precise. if a band actually yells then theyre shitty metalcore and can go die
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yeah, im not sure why i said what i said but death metal bands dont yell, and metalcore isnt shitty theyre talented musicians who work long and hard to make their music.
Grindcore is the only good band with core at the end, carcass is awesome and so is napalm death so your statement isnt completely true. But i still hate death and metalcore bands.
It sounds so fresh. Jeff Waters is in my opinion at least in the list of top 5 underrated musicians. Why I didn't say guitarist: he plays drums, bass, sings and is a musical genious in general. he beasically drives the Annihilator-train all by himself.
is it only me or water's vocals sound WAY better and darker???
momscarface2 2 months ago
the solo is undermixed... it is too much in the background i think^^
Lolimov 4 months ago
Alice grew up lol. Look at the cover.
TheScarletRemnant 6 months ago
Damn!! This verson kicks ass!!! What a Masterpiece!!
Metalmania6666 6 months ago
Which are the other songs of this demo?
GoldenHeadKiller7 6 months ago
This demo, together with the other 3 tracks, has the BEST guitar sound EVER!!!!!
Jeff, PLEASE tell me how to reproduce this amazing sound!!!!
rapanzel666 8 months ago
This should have been the definite version. The vocals and the solo are beastly.
sickeningore 8 months ago
reminds me of amorphis's debut... idk why XD
aswesee 10 months ago
sounds like carcass that vocals
rapcoremanx 10 months ago
sounds more death metal on the original version
its still awesome
BLUEWIZARD40 10 months ago
jeff growls = EVIL!
ksrthrash 10 months ago 5
Is Jeff Waters handling ALL the vocals on this version?
jolemez 11 months ago
@jolemez hell yea !
ThalassemiacLord 11 months ago
Is this before Jeff had Randy on vocals? Because it all sounds like the same vocalist.
wavpe09 1 year ago
@wavpe09 yes that was after the original version. This original version is all one vocalist
BLUEWIZARD40 11 months ago
@6Pantera6Metal6 King Diamond would've owned on these vocals!!
petronovich30 1 year ago
@petronovich30 now that would be fuckin sick. 1986 King doing vocals to this? I wish i had a time machine and a lot of money......
Rshimy 1 year ago
@petronovich30 hell yeah
all hail the diamond king & or alison
gotterscar 6 months ago
Love this versions solo. Like the newer one better though.
ChainsawVsGod 1 year ago
imbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
theodwroz 1 year ago
Holy fuck.. Never heard this version before ang I gotta say it's absolutely great! Ahead of it's time.
Sznikers666 1 year ago
Jeff's vocals are very death metal like
DEANVX93 1 year ago
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amgcg 1 year ago
Good thing they got Randy Rampage for this album. Jeff can growl around a bit, but his melodic stuff is shit.
TorrinTheGreat 1 year ago
how come this demo version is in Eb?
englundisgod 1 year ago
@englundisgod isnt the who song in Eb on the studio version
cometothepartay 1 year ago
no studio version is E standard, i tried to play along with this it sounded like shit. I tried it in Eb it was erfect.
So when I downloaded this track off youtube, i just tuned it up un audacity
englundisgod 1 year ago
@englundisgod Is in E but at 430 not 440 standard, like Pantera's Cowboys From Hell Album
TheRunikko 1 year ago
that would explain it
englundisgod 1 year ago
@TheRunikko OMG !! THANKS !!! its so orgasmic to play
Fenderbass387 10 months ago
@Fenderbass387 Haha! no prob!
TheRunikko 10 months ago
hahah i met jeff waters one morning in ottawa, he is one awesome dude
maidenkid84 1 year ago
Why the Hell didn't Jeff Waters just do the vocals the whole time? His voice really fits the theme of the song...
Jesse1k 1 year ago 3
@Jesse1k yeah... but take in mind... this is just 1 song... if all annihilators theme would be the same... it would be kick ass
xaviermoyssen 1 year ago
this is better than the original i believe
gbironmaiden 1 year ago
<3 It's Awesome!
xCHOCOLADEMUFFIN 1 year ago
these guys are awesome live-saw them back in 2007 at nottingham rock city,ruled the stage\m/
musicalkaratekid 1 year ago
...si ce tineri eram pe cind s a scos piesa..tare piesa:)
ExitusCristi 1 year ago
Vocals on the album are way better.
KingOfTheDead77 1 year ago
Quiero un polo con esa portada pero cada vez que busco nunca encuentro!! T_T, que buena cancion!!
AlBaTr0x 1 year ago
I like this version better but only if it was done faster, and a litle more professional :D
nemakur 1 year ago
holy shit!...this as awesome as the album version!
DragonforceOff 1 year ago
I like the vocals more than the original
tomakiakls 1 year ago
Jeff Waters is beast in this!
crusher955 1 year ago
vocals are god like in this song
silvestre7359 2 years ago
a CLASIC OLD SCHOOL SONG ! .. amazing band!
FiveMagic5 2 years ago 2
OMG, the vocals, he sounds like an early Death Metal vocalist
DarkRattlehead 2 years ago 7
These vocals are fricken Mean!
TheMegaPowers 2 years ago
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Its "alice in hell"... not alison hell
mubsibubschi 2 years ago
What? Yes the ALBUM, but this track is Alison Hell. I have the actual CD. It's a play on words, to sound like Alice In Hell. If you weren't so imperceptive, you would have picked up on that.
TorrinTheGreat 2 years ago 9
The album name is "Alice in Hell"
The song is called "Alison hell"
That's the difference
666Eviiidence666 2 years ago 5
It's like Slayer. The album is called "Reign In Blood", but the song is "Raining Blood".
gnrcr 2 years ago 6
better than the album version way more raw
InfernalMajesty94 2 years ago 7
Metalcore is gay go post this on their video if they are so nice. Annihilator is the shit
xabbukhozek 2 years ago 13
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I like annihilator too, but people who say Metalcore is gay are fucktards
madmagician07 2 years ago
@ madmagician07 not only is metalcore gay you are a gay fucktard
supercronsmoker420 2 years ago 3
Ahh yes yes, my bad hahaha
plaster666rockin 2 years ago
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and BY THE WAY ITS NOT ALISON HELL ITS ALICE IN HELL
plaster666rockin 2 years ago
Alice in Hell is the name of the album, the song's Alison Hell.
Sephiroth1488 2 years ago 43
@Sephiroth1488 yep just like slayer's reign in blood.... but the songs raining blood
reigningbullets 10 months ago
thre song title is alison hell trhe album is alice in hell
supercronsmoker420 2 years ago 2
This is damn good!!!!! Just how I remember it
plaster666rockin 2 years ago
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bobasud6 2 years ago
very good song
AlicsInHell 2 years ago
fuckin awesome!!!thrash till death!\m/\m/
Megamultikiller 2 years ago 3
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se oye mas perron q el remasteriado
Thrash till Deah Fucking ass your mother
saludos a todo el mudo :O
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sounds like bed of razors from children of bodom lol but i like this one beter
HeAvYMeTaL4EvEr110 2 years ago
Yeah. COB totally got it from Annihilator :P
maidenmadness1 2 years ago
In my opinion Jeff Waters is best guitarist ever
Blackgoat515 2 years ago 13
awesome this is rare jeff on vocals kewl! =) \m/ this tune rocks
chazdaspazman 2 years ago 6
This rocks !
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mierdaaaa...yeeeeeeeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
bulladictoanormal 2 years ago
jeff is awesome on vocals
Pentagruel77 2 years ago 10
sweet solo on the demo version..
Loser612Tc 2 years ago 12
Like that other dude said can u get the vid it makes the song
blackiefnlawless 2 years ago
"Alison!!!!!!!" xD love Annihiltor man \m/
WarlordXtreme 2 years ago 2
can't find the original videoclip on YouTube.
30jahre 2 years ago 2
hellyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
greglong47 2 years ago
Maybe he sneaks in........Hell, I could use his vocal range, make sure he knows when I'm putting a demo together, lol....Killer range in this one, I didn't realize Waters had such a range! I do like the final, "official" studio version better, but I can't help but wonder if King didn't make a "geist" appearance here.
erinandcompany 2 years ago
socio el bananiya
ruuthalQ 2 years ago
he is coming
TheBeerViking 2 years ago
alice ou Alisson in hell
yurizaidan 2 years ago
alison hell
chucknorris4000000 2 years ago
ALICE!!!!!!! IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!
Da420wn 2 years ago
Not a fan of the vocals in this, I prefer the studio version.
rockona7xx 2 years ago
Wow, this is good.
Jphthe2 2 years ago 5
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the singer kinda reminds me of slayer's tom araya
mihalyit 2 years ago
fuck it all....I just like it
mesiguejodiendo12 2 years ago
his singing here is pretty good, but i like his "album" voice better, idk why
n64expansionpack 2 years ago
Sounds like King diamod
dinoboss 2 years ago
I totally agree. The first time I herd this song was covered in the roadrunner united concert, and this came after abigail.. with ripper owens in vocals, jeff and james murphy on guitars...
grruuuuuuuuuu 2 years ago
i love hw jeff sings..just kick ass....in my opinion the demo sounds better than the original with the other singer...
conspiciere 2 years ago
Annihilators best album
ThrashCore124 2 years ago
i bought this album when it first came out when i was 11 years old. first time i've ever heard this version, though .. very interesting.
moldren 2 years ago
bass players should deserve more
credit especially this bassist
from Annihilator!!
shaboobo1988 2 years ago
Jeff Waters played bass as well as guitar on this album.
Guzco 2 years ago
Isn't that death-metal?
evanescent25 2 years ago
i'd call this thrash...awesome!!!
rosstheboss6 2 years ago
It's thrash metal, but sounds like early Death Metal
Stenkth 2 years ago
Canadian Bomber.
TodieToLiveLA 2 years ago
im probably gonna get a whole bunch of people mad but i have to say that this is wayyyy better than any of metallica's "thrash" mainstream bullshit. and way better than anything they can ever do. this is real thrash metal
trivium646 2 years ago 4
I agree by 100%.
Skilppari 2 years ago
have either of yall ever heard kill 'em all or ride the lightning assholes
PADER0 2 years ago 4
Yeah, and mind you that Kirk Hammett is one sloppy motherfucker. Hammett aka wah-raping one-scale wonder is such amateur that he couldn't play Mustaine's material on original tempo when he joined Metallica. James has blown his voice voice, Ulrich's snare sounds shit as always and that new bassist is so average.
Ride the lightning, Metal Militia, Four Horsemen... Yeah, Dave Mustaine is genious!
Annihilator > Metallica
Skilppari 2 years ago 7
UHHHHHH............No, Rob Trujillo is fuckin sick. I pretty much agree with you on everything else but that was totally not true. The dude has played with BLS, Ozzy, Metallica, Suicidal and a whole lot of killer metal bands. He is wicked and totally dominates the fucking stage, At least as good as Lomenzo in Megadeth.
arod1989 2 years ago
yea trujillo is great :D
metalguitarist11 2 years ago
im not saying that kirk and james are as good as jeff or that metallica is even good today im just saying you cant say there original stuff wasnt awsome
but Annihilator does rule
PADER0 2 years ago
he said mainstream, as in The "Black" album through Death Magnetic
bobjackson7 2 years ago
fuk yea jeff waters kicks kirk and james ass in guitar
Aqualeader5 2 years ago 2
yeh i think metallica went to shit after cliff burton died, no one ever gives bass players credit, but Cliff made metallica thrash.
bobjackson7 2 years ago 5
Annihilator is the best Canadian thrash metal band ever
Metal1ap 2 years ago
wow what a strange vocals The higher vocals are indeed better for this band.
Usually don't like high vocals but these vocals aren't of my likenings.
nederbassie 2 years ago
Jeff Waters rules. Vocals are great
makke94 2 years ago
The video response is the official "Alice In Hell" version with the intro (Crystal Ann).
KillerMetalUploads 2 years ago
Intense and evil!! \m/quality trash\m/
DTneedsroykhan 2 years ago
this versions better
guitarboy1998 2 years ago 2
bag of tricks was one of my fave albums,this was at the end with another demo.but fuck what an album as was their first!
domothemetalgod 2 years ago
this is real Thrash here
Metaldude2084 2 years ago 5
one of if not the best metal songs ever, "sitting in the cornoer you are naked and alone" annihilator is metal, one of my fav bands ever
coffinfeeder2007 2 years ago 3
I agree! Well said.
mickbynes 2 years ago 2
I'm really glad they went with high singing instead of low singing.
Copidat 2 years ago 2
gotta love the solo...
way more shred
but new one is still good
SoundOfAShark 2 years ago
Jeff waters is a good singer but he wasnt recognized for it before king of the kill
AmateurGuitarist15 3 years ago 6
this demo sounds like early death metal. but when rampage sings its thrash
toberichmoe 3 years ago 3
Vocals don't make or break a genre. This is thrash musically.
idshanks 2 years ago
Excuse me, but Toberichmoe is right, this really sounds like death metal, and vocals DO a genre, aggressive thrash without harsh guttural voices is pure thrash, but with them, is Death Thrash. Also this demo isn't as fast and speedy as its successor that appears on Alice in Hell.
Stenkth 2 years ago
No, Death Thrash would be the incorporation of riffing and drumming styles from both genres. This is purely thrash. Plenty of pure thrash has harsh vocals, be they death style or not. Maybe if this was at the extreme end of thrash musically I could understand... but this is some of the more melodic thrash out there on the whole.
idshanks 2 years ago
Well, the screaming vocals WAS the thing that made Death Metal take apart from Thrash, it's what it started with, but you're right.
varulv234 2 years ago
Actually, there were some notable differences musically. It's very notable that the riffing style became more focused (there was much less emphasis on pedal points in their melodies), the timing would become more complex. You can clearly hear these changes in the early intermediate albums between thrash and death metal. Sure, they're relatively small differences compared to the difference now, but the fact is that there was a clear musical difference even in the earliest examples of death metal.
idshanks 2 years ago
BUT, it started it's departure from Thrash with the vocals.
varulv234 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I just think it's unfair to belittle the transformation from thrash to death to nothing more than vocals. Sure, the vocals were changing right there at start, but so was the music. They went hand-in-hand. It wasn't just thrash with growls.
idshanks 2 years ago
That's right=)
varulv234 2 years ago
common misconception, death metal bands dont sing they growl. low growl to be precise. if a band actually yells then theyre shitty metalcore and can go die
666demonicspawn666 2 years ago
common misconception is that if a band doesn't adhere to your rigid definition of a certain genre, they should 'go die'.
comeasyouare1989 2 years ago
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yeah, im not sure why i said what i said but death metal bands dont yell, and metalcore isnt shitty theyre talented musicians who work long and hard to make their music.
666demonicspawn666 2 years ago
metalcore sucks dick lol
anythng wth core at the end is a fuckin joke
supmayne1 2 years ago 9
Grindcore is the only good band with core at the end, carcass is awesome and so is napalm death so your statement isnt completely true. But i still hate death and metalcore bands.
666demonicspawn666 2 years ago
wat sucks is that punkcore crap, bunch of guys whos balls didnt even drop yet trying to scream and sing.
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MrGameAndGuitar 2 years ago
the only thing thats good with "core" at the end of it is porn
sandabs 2 years ago 44
hell yea
sandabs exactly right
\m/
jojokicksbutt 2 years ago
lol
Metal1ap 2 years ago
@sandabs Porncore?
J0hannski 1 year ago
@sandabs Hey,don't forget grind and old school hc!
TheGreatDuck 1 year ago
@sandabs PORNCORE!!!
kane555444 11 months ago
@sandabs to me grindcore is good
nose766 9 months ago
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Metalcore is the fucking shit. Killswitch Engage, All That remains FTW. So much talent those guys have. Fuck all metalcore haters
madmagician07 2 years ago
How about you take a step back...and fuck your own face.
squaleoth 2 years ago 6
YOu just made absoluteley no sense.
madmagician07 2 years ago
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squaleoth 2 years ago
He and John S never will wind up getting the respect or attention they deserve.
Gaurudonx 3 years ago
It sounds so fresh. Jeff Waters is in my opinion at least in the list of top 5 underrated musicians. Why I didn't say guitarist: he plays drums, bass, sings and is a musical genious in general. he beasically drives the Annihilator-train all by himself.
UnforgivenXII 3 years ago 7
Love the laugh at the beginning. gave me chills.
cyberachnid 3 years ago 3
Jeff Waters is singing
Whist75 3 years ago
thats not rampage is it?
Orion17 3 years ago