I feel bad for the americans.. Creepy how some of them even see Obama as a socialist.. come to Denmark and see how things are. If you were to put Obama into Danish politics, he would be considered as a pretty right-wing guy, si I think some of you need to chill.
Capitalism is the solution, not the problem. America hasn't had capitalism in decades, so why blame Capitalism? It's Corporatism that needs to be blamed.
@MrNightranger86 Not true. Most Arab countries HATE communists with an exception of the few. They are highly capitalist. They have been for over a thousands of years. Large scale socialism hasn't been practiced that long but utterly failed, Which was shown under the USSR. China is become more free market oriented each year.
-I've seen the movie,is completely biased,shows a lot of people who borrowed a lot of money and didn't paid,had their collateral seized and now is playing victim,wants us to feel sorry for them,pointless.
Sammynasty... were do u get ur info Canadian do not pay 65% in taxes.... To so many people out there get ur facts straight first before u open ur mouth
People always want to point at Stalin and Mao as an example of why communism is a horrible idea, but no one ever talks about Benito Mussolini or Imperial Japan or even Adolf Hitler who was openly against the communists in Germany and had most of them executed. So to say that a system doesn't work by comparing it to people who just ruled with an iron fist and cut out rights seems to be ignoring the actual idea
@lunacomputacion I have a lot of sources. The Cuban Exile community in Miami, all the people who were killed trying to cross the Berlin wall, the absolutely sickening state of North Korea compared to the lavish lifestyle of their leader, the sweatshop labor in China, and of course there's Nazism, which is an acronym for NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
Do you need more? Because I can fill quite a few comment boxes with the shit I have.
@AmericanBadass44 That's right, most of them are examples of how people on top of society makes money and builds power, and gives a shit about killing millions. Which is not something strange to American capitalism. Some Americans tend to think that, if you hate Bush and hate to see the marines bombing cities and torturing prisoners, you hate the US. But I love the plane and the telephone e.g., and the Jefferson's statement of independence.
@AmericanBadass44 And there's a more interesting question, clouded by the ideological buzz. See, Russia was ruled by the Tsar, which allowed capitalism, but not democracy (so they didn't lose a freedom they didn't have). Soviet regime was succesfull at mitigating poverty and development (you can't easily turn a medieval nation to the 2nd industrial power in 50 years). But they failed once the ppl had a culture and money to spend (cont.)
@AmericanBadass44 So the moral seems that is easier for a fluent democracy to ensure people's housing, health care, education and all the typical social or "socialist" achievements than it was, for socialist states, to allow or increase freedom of choice. As long as the money is spent in meeting the common needs of people and not in warfare and bankrupcy rescues. I don't think Moore is proposing a soviet regime for the US, it would be absurd.
@lunacomputacion The problem is that democracy is just as impossible as Communism, or close to it in the world that we live in. It's a sad truth, but a truth nonetheless. Even the Athenians who created the idea of democracy didn't have it entirely democratic as they wanted it. There's always corruption and dishonesty.
Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some even say they hear, do it.
Mulle many Americans have been brainwashed into having a paranoid view of government and any welfare program and have forgotten Thomas Jefferson's words:"The business of government is to do for the people that which they are unable top do for themselves" ..i.e. build roads, hospitals, create educational programs etc..Only very insecure people are shaped by fear..maybe in 50 years Americans will understand that democracy and social welfare serve the people and that human dignity is important.
Capitalism is a way of controlling society, making the rich wealthier, and slaving workers to make "profits" for the "aristocracy" . In other words Capitalism is a form of oppression from the "superior to control the inferior". Capitalism is not lame at all; it's well controlled by educated people, but not rationale beings. R. Santiago
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hello everybody. i am from Denmark and no, it is not the capital of sweden. as you may know, we pay high taxes in denmark. that could be the reason that our country isn't in deep shit right now. we dont like when americans call us communists when we are not. we all help eachother in denmark by paying 40% to 65% of our income. i dont know why you guys arent willing to learn from your own mistakes or even listning to what Michael Moore have to say. his arguments are bulletproof.
hello everybody. i am from Denmark and no, it is not the capital of sweden. as you may know, we pay high taxes in denmark. that could be the reason that our country isn't in deep shit right now. we dont like when americans call us communists when we are not. we all help eachother in denmark by paying 40% to 65% of our income. i dont know why you guys arent willing to learn from your own mistakes or even listning to what Michael Moore have to say. his arguments are bulletproof.
@FurtherIntel at least we still get more money than most americans do, even with the high taxes. plus we have free healthcare for all. AND we only have a 12% unemployment rate. low poverty and i could keep on going. You guys are working for scraps
@mulle9999 greetings from "Rio de Janeiro, capital of Argentina" LOL. We don't want a press monopoly; we are judging the Chicago School genocides; we want 82% retirement salary, we've been trying to push IMF off our backs, so we didn't collapse at the recent worlwide financial crack. I guess we're communists too.
@mulle9999 OH..well..you paying 65% of your income to your government or your queen,and your happy...HMMM...i wonder what economy system you live at...
@mulle9999 Yeah, and all that money goes to the costs of shipping over those Muslims from the middle east and to feed their dozens of hungry children and give them special benefits because, well if we dont we are racist. All that money goes to welfare for Muslims and foreigners.
@mulle9999 The problem is that it doesnt seem like its possible to raise taxes in the US because when an american hears the word taxes they run and scream
@mulle9999 Sadly you are right. I love America and I love capitalism and I have nothing against socialism. I just believe that capitalism works better and allows the people more freedom with their lives. Also I don't believe in people paying 40 to 60% of their income to the poor who are to lazy or have had some bad luck. The problem hear in America is that people have become greedy. One of the reasons we have become greedy is because we have become socialist..
@mulle9999 I remember the days when the poor family in my community had no reason to go on welfare and food stamps because me and people from my community would go and help them get food pay bills and help them with their future what happened 1year later that family became one of the richest in the state Making 1million a year because they started their own business witch was able to succeed because there we not many regulations
I have to believe that, after seeing this movie, that we may be in for a revolution - by the people, in the workplace, at the bank (switching to community banks and credit unions), and focusing on getting decent people into government.
We may just see more protests, but then, we may see more of the people taking to the microphone to speak truth to power.
Capital is the means of production. All countries are producing something therefore; they are all capitalist, where the difference is the ownership and control of the capital. In a Free Republic the capital is owned and controlled privately. In communism the state owns and controls the capital. All other governmental systems have a mixture of private and state ownership and control. Which Capital “Love Story” is Michael Moore infatuated with?
Should a 400 lb man advise us on the evils of over-consumption?
Should the resident of a million-dollar apartment claim to be a poster boy of the working class?
Should a person who thought that Enron was a great investment, that Ralph Nader, Wesley Clark and John Kerry would win, and that North Korea's Kim Jong was changing for the better, advise us on ANYTHING?
half truths? where? nobody ever actually has an example. very lame. why do you guys hate American working families? do you want your credit card company to steal from you? which side are you on anyway?
Micheal what are you doing?, America is not ready for the truth people rather get burn to learn hence wall street coming down you think that was co-incident hell no that shit has been in the works for a long time like i said people are not ready time will tell for them who knows maybe then it would be to late
The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing
capitalism is effective till government butts in with the claim that "they" know better and regulate it to death---or at least to its knees.
It's all part of a grand scheme, not for the benefit of the common man as they'd like you to believe, but for the elites (see who donates to the democratic campaigns, it's those "fat cats", lol).
I see NWO (New World Order) or something sinister in this scheme
I like how the "reporter" claims that Moore has been "caught in half truths more than once" but doesn't bother to provide evidence of this highly contestable statement. Of course, she did say it pretty confidently so I guess that proves her right. Plus, if I heard some unidentified person on the internet saying something then it must be true.
anybody world wide whom is for fairness and equality is a lover micheal moore! im from the UK and i wish he'd come over here and show ppl just how fucking stupid "politics" really fucking is! old boys club, fuck you!
I have two problems with Michael Moore: 1.) Didn't he vote for Obama? So why is he upset about the bailouts? 2.) If it weren't for capitalism, he would not be the millionaire he is today. The premise of a movie is a nice idea, but extremely hypocritical on Moore's part.
@byronissexy Perhaps because like the rest of us Americans who don't have amnesia it wasn't Obama who got congress to approve the bailout, it was Bush ... you know, that guy who was president for 8 years, got us into two wars that cost 3 trillion dollars and then begged congress to give more money to the biggest banks after they squandered our money away in derivatives to begin with thanks to Ronald Reagan deregulating banks? That's why people voted for Obama, to stop this crap.
i like micheal moors films, he's a smart man, but does anyone find it ironic his movies make huge profits and he also is an overweight american? He's still brilliant though.
Liberals focus more on the negative rather than the positive. Michael Moore made so many dead end points in this movie. Socialism is not the cure for a bad economy. The amount of money Obama and Pelosi spent and gave to bail out other countries that don't even want to associate with us is way more than what Bush gave in bailouts. We might as well throw out the Constitution. I have never seen a President who doesn't like doing his job more than Obama.
@Grapes428 Now when the hell in the entire film did Moore even remotely suggest socialism over capitalism? Moore's key focus was giving the power back to the people to decide what they want the government to do with their money, rather than Wall Street. Now if you have actually bothered to watch the film (or if I actually have watched it, bother to understand it), you would have realize that.
Well, I think its fun to make fun of his immense mass bc I don't take him seriously, like many others. This guy makes the unintelligent believe capitalism = corrupt wall street, that it is only greed, and that those who are rich don't deserve what they have and should be portioned to the "less fortunate". The wealthiest pay the huge % of taxes, and they already pay for their welfare. To allow corrupt bureaucrats to decide how a persons income should be allocated is completely unjust and UNFAIR
@jazyF1, oh please dont rant about socialism or socialist countries since obviously you dont know what you're talking about and have pretty hard time understanding the words...
Capitalism has been in the world since human kind existed. Now when the economy is bad then capitalism is bad. So whats better? Socialism? Communism? What a bunch of stupid retards all of you are.
@latengocomoburro Maybe you need to realize that Democracy, Republic, Capitalism, Socialism or any other philosophical governmental / socio economical construct that is put into practice, comes in many various forms. They are only in fact ideas that can be shaped into utopias, or dictatorial tools. If you look at any country today, the original political and economical construct, that was good, are taking on unwanted proportions because they are not maintained sensibly on the political arena.
The downturn in the economy was brought about loose FED and government policies, and the progressive loons that enabled it deliberately for their own agenda. The money supply has doubled in the last year, ensuring that the currency will be devalued. There are anti-American forces at work and the progressives are working hand in hand with them.
@keyotikdragon Well, that would be the case if we lived in a meroticratic society. But we don't, so capitalism is not a "Darwinian principal", as you put it.
@keyotikdragon A meroticratic society is where everyone is born equal and with the same opportunities. This could not possibly exist in a capitalist society as those born to wealthier families will have a far greater chance of suceeding compared with those in the working class. They will have a better education, more time to study without having to worry about other resposibilities, and greater access to other resources.
It would be very helpful if you would include subtitles for those of us who are hearing impaired. Please consider it. I'm certain there are many of us who would be most grateful.
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God that script this bimbo was given to read from was so annoying.
Still going to try to watch this film. I'm on the fence with Moore. I agree with of the apparent intentions behind some of his films, but his overall messages I find to be very misguided, and his research and facts are often inaccurate.
No question that his films will make you think and open up debates on the subject, whether you agree or disagree with his viewpoints. And they're often entertaining in their own way.
Problem with the US is the special interest groups own the country, it's run by Wall St. which is a den of thieves, where's the $40 billion Madoff stole, The US citizen supports militarism and zionism, more US money is spent on the personal benefits of Israelis than on US citizens themselves. Watch Sicko and see the huge extortion perpetrated on citizens by the medico/drug enterprises.
Michael Moore isn't touching any nerves this time. Healthcare and terrorism are divisive, but everyone seems to agree the banks didn't deserve their bailouts (at least not morally).
We're watching it next week and we can't wait! Moore does such a good job of making the horror of it all funny. The trailer was awesome! Thanks for posting.
BTW, for people who are too brain washed or who are under mind control and will have a heart attack if they watch anything other than the nazi fascist ignorant propaganda they are designed to digest, Moore films are funny!
Also, some of the greatest democracies of the world were built on SOCIALIST principle. "We the people" for example.
hubbabubba66, yes it is is'nt it. Awesome! Cannot wait to see the next one, I read earlier in this post that they are showing it on mo v i e - h u b . n e t
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Fascism: A Love Story
would be a more apt title, but Michael Moore is always so quick to demonize capitalism and glorify socialism (yes the economic and political system responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths), that he would rather outright lie rather than call it for what it is.
Corporatism is economic fascism, not capitalism. Let's use some of that 5th grade knowledge shall we folks?
"socialism (yes the economic and political system responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths)" LoL Oh, you're serious? Maybe you should get your head out of your cold war propaganda filled ass.
Ok, if socialism is so terrible, why is Canada, the country neighbouring the US, socialist? and yet, there is far less ( though there is still some ) corruption there?
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
@Cliffe4567 yes, i really agree with you. my comment was really directed at the common perspective that socialism and communism are the "same". but, i do think that communism is more prone to dictatorship than is socialism. (i am not a socialist )
@wimscheers well its true millions starved in Russia cause of Stalins restructuring of the economy he tried to control every aspect of agriculture and displaced people from their farms and couldn't feed themselves
Stalin was a totalitarian communist. Please tell me how "to control every aspect of agriculture and displaced people from their farms" has anything to do with socialism?
@wimscheers Do you or your kids go to school? That's socialism. Do you use the public sidewalks? That's socialism. Do you drive on highways? That's socialism. Do you currently oppose the war? That's socialism. Were you against the $700B bailout? That's socialism. Do you like the idea of alternative energy? You guessed it, that's socialism.
@TheRealJHanson hi there, you seem to be a socialist. i'm a little short on my mortgage this month, about 850 dollars. Can you help me out any? Maybe a collected effort of 50 bucks from each of your friends? Perhaps half your check?
@pondfrog3 Quote: "hi there, you seem to be a socialist. i'm a little short on my mortgage this month, about 850 dollars. Can you help me out any? Maybe a collected effort of 50 bucks from each of your friends? Perhaps half your check?" .... right...
@wimscheers Capitalism was responsible for 'hundreds of millions of deaths'', because the devastation of war. Capitalism is now taking the world to an end when WWIII get started.
Capitalism is immoral, pure logics of animals, valuation of nature, a thought of non-sense.
@zshuai Fascism and Japanese aggression was responsible for WW2. America didn't want to get in it. Although we were dragged when France fell Britain was begin attacked. Also the slaughter of million when the government controls your and if u speak of the atrocities or of them and their complete control u die. Your stupidity make me want to hit my head on the wall. I'm sad to inform you that you have no idea what your talking about. The one flaw in your logic. This is Earth.
@zshuai Communism was responsible for the deaths of thousands of people who took a stand for there religion or political beliefs. The USSR was a empire dedicated to forceing its citizens to agree and it was flawd by allowing full power to the leader of the Party. the same thing with other current comi countries except North Korea took this to an extreme by creating a personality cult and China watered it down abit. Dont talk about things before you research. And you call me an animalwhenyousupp-
i thought the american dream was about working hard and being free to enjoy the fruits of your labour.
unfortunatly however, most people are unable to do so becos the fruits of their labour are taken from them by their employer. this is theft, however, they have the law on theirside so it does not count as theft, but "buisiness".
the only way to avoid this is to work for yourself or work in a co-operative
"If you want something, work for it. If you do not work, you deserve nothing. Regardless of how rich the rich are. "
but the rich are rich because they steal from the working class, making them poor. this occurs becos they own the means of production and they keep all the profits, when they did no work themselves and it was the workers who earned those profits, and thus they are the ones who should have them.
What half truth ? Look on his site he has every single fact from his movies listed with the source as well. Lady shut up you don't know anything or more so the parrot that wrote your lines.
LOL Come on, really? Do American people actually read or do you just make stuff up/believe your media without question? I'm sure a lot of you do read but the ones that don't, like this clown, really make the rest of you look spectacularly stupid.
Look at the human development index, the index for living standards and you'll see that the USA is not even in the top 10. Even Canada is higher than you :D. The UK, where i'm from, is even lower. The UK's a shit hole! Least I admit it though.
Far left FAR LEFT? Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's the most amusing thing i've heard in quite some time. Labour may claim to be socialist but they abandoned their roots long ago, they have just carried on Neo Liberal policies.
I suggest you actually do some reading before you post further and make an even bigger tit of yourself.
Sure the US has a very high standard of living but it's not the best. What makes it even more amusing is that nearly all the top 10 countries have left leaning governments with universal health care and generous welfare for people out of work.
Interesting that eh? I bet you right wingers can't stand it can ya? Frothing at the mouth because the evidence contradicts your capitalist bullshit and proves that social democracy creates the best societies :D.
Also the human development index does not take into account freedom and human rights. Maybe these countries do have a better GDP but in regards to how much freedom? I personally would rather have freedom than money.
Spoken like a true capitalist Yank. Everything has to be measured in GDP doesn't it? Do you actually read anything? The HDI measures on literacy rates, health and longevity, not just GDP.
Talking about human rights, you seriously wanna use that to prop up your pathetic argument? Are you seriously suggesting that countries like Norway, Canada, Holland, Sweden etc carry out serious human rights abuses and the people aren't free?
Seriously, you're looking like a deluded tool now.
You have conniptions like a barbaric ruffian. I read consistently and am very well-informed, if you would like to debate stop presenting yourself as an arrogant savage. The UK is a far left country, there is simply no refuting that point. And America has an extremely large population, making it difficult to account for every individual. We also are much more benevolent than any other country. 100 nations would go hungry without the US. Maybe at this point we are not #1, but we have been b4.
Ruffian? LOL I didn't realise we were living in the 1930s. That point can be easily refuted by the fact I live in the UK and you don't, this country isn't far left AT ALL. Far left is communism and believe me this is far from being a communist country. I'll let you off though because you're a yank, and many yanks think anywhere with universal health care and unemployment benefit is some communist dictatorship.
Seriously, you are massively uninformed if you think the US is benevolent. Your country has attacked more countries than anyone else since the end of WW2 and we ride on your rancid coat tails.
Large population is an extremely pathetic excuse but that appears to be all you have. You've never been number 1 and you never will be because your country is a selfish, individualist, plastic shit hole and it's a dying empire.
Read WHO reports on what American corporations do to third world countries, take a look at how you exploit workers for fuck all pay, read about vulture funds. Read about how countries can't provide public services because of the US dominated IMF forcing them to service crippling debts, read about economic restructuring, and then get back to me.
My point in all this is I find it difficult to find Americans who acknowledge the crimes committed by their government. Instead you just waffle on about how you save the world from all sorts of evil whereas you actually create vast amounts of it. There's a reason why the world hates the UK and the US, it's because between us we've been brutal, war mongering assholes for the past 400 years or so.
We still do it but you've taken the lead role now. Admit it, then move on, simple.
Were it not for General Patton you would've had your arses wiped all over the Ardennes Forrest. Oh and let's not forget how that great American company, IBM, allowed for efficiency in the Holocaust.
Let's also not kid ourselves that the US entered the war out of the goodness of your hearts, you entered both wars (late) because you saw an opportunity to make money, not because you gave a shit about Europe (and why would you?).
The only reason America entered the war is because the Bush's and many others found an opportunity to make all lot of money...and that they did. I cannot control the immoral nature of our leaders, as every country has such corruption. But to be optimistic you must give both European nations and America alike credit. We have not enslaved our people nor have oppressed them to such extremities as have other countries. Euro-American culture is also responsible for the blunt of innovation.
Granted, so if you follow that line of logic doesn't it just show that all states are illegitimate power structures that ultimately serve the interests of an elite few and therefore should be done away with? They will, IMO, eventually eat themselves anyway because more and more will realise that institutions cannot provide for all their needs.
No we haven't enslaved our own citizens as much, we've just brutalised and enslaved the citizens of other countries. Slave trade, genocide of native Americans, starving to death millions of Indians. Bringing it up to modern times our corporations now pay people poverty wages in our own countries, more so abroad, and have forced people into a race to the bottom with fewer jobs for less pay. Corporations hold the power, governments are just there to take the wrath.
@ChunderChunk Finally someone else that gets it. "Corporations hold the power, governments are there to take the wrath". Thank you, thank you, thank you. Keep up the good work bruddah.
I feel bad for the americans.. Creepy how some of them even see Obama as a socialist.. come to Denmark and see how things are. If you were to put Obama into Danish politics, he would be considered as a pretty right-wing guy, si I think some of you need to chill.
- Greetings from Denmark :D
Illnath 1 week ago
Capitalism is the solution, not the problem. America hasn't had capitalism in decades, so why blame Capitalism? It's Corporatism that needs to be blamed.
pf91rodman 1 month ago
this slag is a biased fuck!
Dontgetmetwisted 2 months ago
@Dontgetmetwisted No ... that slag is a hot fuck!
ChewmeBacon 2 months ago
@ChewmeBacon true man a hot biased fuck
Dontgetmetwisted 2 months ago
@MrNightranger86 Not true. Most Arab countries HATE communists with an exception of the few. They are highly capitalist. They have been for over a thousands of years. Large scale socialism hasn't been practiced that long but utterly failed, Which was shown under the USSR. China is become more free market oriented each year.
tehatemachine 2 months ago
-I've seen the movie,is completely biased,shows a lot of people who borrowed a lot of money and didn't paid,had their collateral seized and now is playing victim,wants us to feel sorry for them,pointless.
peter455sd 6 months ago
@Dercommandingofficer Yeh, all american tax dollars go to Muslim welfare. Get your head out of your ass.
psycho7005 6 months ago
An that girl in the being looks likes a dum cunt
House4848 7 months ago
Sammynasty... were do u get ur info Canadian do not pay 65% in taxes.... To so many people out there get ur facts straight first before u open ur mouth
House4848 7 months ago
Micheal Moore must make a Doc. on Y2k
Biggest Turning point in History of Capitalism --
How US + EU Companies were Robed when their profits were SOARING like neva b4
in the Biggest Scam + Hoax of the Century ---
Y2K --- Trillions were invested beyond spending limit of business--- cuz of
--Fear Factor -- very famous show on AXN --
Hindu (india)+ Jewish Lobby got Rich @ the Expense & Bankruptcy of Western Companies
Cuz same Jewish + Hindu Lobby controls ur MEDIA---
watup2154 7 months ago
There should be a Show on Cable TV ---- America Got Issues ----
hahaha
just Leave North America to Native Americans and go back to Europe ---- how difficult is that ????
watup2154 7 months ago
@mulle9999 This.
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TheSourceNoob 8 months ago
People always want to point at Stalin and Mao as an example of why communism is a horrible idea, but no one ever talks about Benito Mussolini or Imperial Japan or even Adolf Hitler who was openly against the communists in Germany and had most of them executed. So to say that a system doesn't work by comparing it to people who just ruled with an iron fist and cut out rights seems to be ignoring the actual idea
apologizingkiller 8 months ago
why did Michale Morre call this film "A Love Story" because he is a capitalist himself. ...
brentisone 8 months ago
it's a irony title. he's really good at those.
MrHoppers002 8 months ago
Will there be a sequel called "Socialism: Give us all of your money or will arrest your family and torture them"
AmericanBadass44 9 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 Which is your source? "The Red Nightmare" film, 1959?
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
@lunacomputacion I have a lot of sources. The Cuban Exile community in Miami, all the people who were killed trying to cross the Berlin wall, the absolutely sickening state of North Korea compared to the lavish lifestyle of their leader, the sweatshop labor in China, and of course there's Nazism, which is an acronym for NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
Do you need more? Because I can fill quite a few comment boxes with the shit I have.
AmericanBadass44 8 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 That's right, most of them are examples of how people on top of society makes money and builds power, and gives a shit about killing millions. Which is not something strange to American capitalism. Some Americans tend to think that, if you hate Bush and hate to see the marines bombing cities and torturing prisoners, you hate the US. But I love the plane and the telephone e.g., and the Jefferson's statement of independence.
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 And there's a more interesting question, clouded by the ideological buzz. See, Russia was ruled by the Tsar, which allowed capitalism, but not democracy (so they didn't lose a freedom they didn't have). Soviet regime was succesfull at mitigating poverty and development (you can't easily turn a medieval nation to the 2nd industrial power in 50 years). But they failed once the ppl had a culture and money to spend (cont.)
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 So the moral seems that is easier for a fluent democracy to ensure people's housing, health care, education and all the typical social or "socialist" achievements than it was, for socialist states, to allow or increase freedom of choice. As long as the money is spent in meeting the common needs of people and not in warfare and bankrupcy rescues. I don't think Moore is proposing a soviet regime for the US, it would be absurd.
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
@lunacomputacion The problem is that democracy is just as impossible as Communism, or close to it in the world that we live in. It's a sad truth, but a truth nonetheless. Even the Athenians who created the idea of democracy didn't have it entirely democratic as they wanted it. There's always corruption and dishonesty.
minimumOFaMAXIMUM 8 months ago
@minimumOFaMAXIMUM oh I answered to that elsewhere... we won't live in heaven, but it makes sense to avoid hell...
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
Lol.
lordgodheretic 9 months ago
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Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some even say they hear, do it.
jamestargetedindiv 10 months ago
shut up
Skabeeri 10 months ago
Mulle many Americans have been brainwashed into having a paranoid view of government and any welfare program and have forgotten Thomas Jefferson's words:"The business of government is to do for the people that which they are unable top do for themselves" ..i.e. build roads, hospitals, create educational programs etc..Only very insecure people are shaped by fear..maybe in 50 years Americans will understand that democracy and social welfare serve the people and that human dignity is important.
turockandar 11 months ago
where do they get those girls who read the script? nice
232323C 11 months ago
hahaha this chick was totally reading and had no political knowledge.
it's strange to see this movie beeing promoted in a gossip channel..
lucksmizzioni 11 months ago
Socialism Sucks. Get out of this county Dumbocrats.
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4kloever1 11 months ago
the girl (host) on the trailer is a bitch. . .she knows she sucks michales moores balls when shes half backed
hahahaha
lolitalovelolita 1 year ago
Capitalism is a way of controlling society, making the rich wealthier, and slaving workers to make "profits" for the "aristocracy" . In other words Capitalism is a form of oppression from the "superior to control the inferior". Capitalism is not lame at all; it's well controlled by educated people, but not rationale beings. R. Santiago
gbnomar 1 year ago
Of course, because Micheal Moore never fully bakes his research.
I guess they didn't hire her because of her professorial thesis on the human condition and its affects on global politics.
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hello everybody. i am from Denmark and no, it is not the capital of sweden. as you may know, we pay high taxes in denmark. that could be the reason that our country isn't in deep shit right now. we dont like when americans call us communists when we are not. we all help eachother in denmark by paying 40% to 65% of our income. i dont know why you guys arent willing to learn from your own mistakes or even listning to what Michael Moore have to say. his arguments are bulletproof.
mulle9999 1 year ago
hello everybody. i am from Denmark and no, it is not the capital of sweden. as you may know, we pay high taxes in denmark. that could be the reason that our country isn't in deep shit right now. we dont like when americans call us communists when we are not. we all help eachother in denmark by paying 40% to 65% of our income. i dont know why you guys arent willing to learn from your own mistakes or even listning to what Michael Moore have to say. his arguments are bulletproof.
mulle9999 1 year ago 44
@mulle9999 Because we prefer not to work hard for our money when it just goes away to people who don't work. Thus, we are capitalist.
FurtherIntel 1 year ago
@FurtherIntel at least we still get more money than most americans do, even with the high taxes. plus we have free healthcare for all. AND we only have a 12% unemployment rate. low poverty and i could keep on going. You guys are working for scraps
mulle9999 1 year ago
@mulle9999 your saying wasting most of your money is the solution to get more money? if you say so.
LosTxRebirth 11 months ago
@mulle9999 greetings from "Rio de Janeiro, capital of Argentina" LOL. We don't want a press monopoly; we are judging the Chicago School genocides; we want 82% retirement salary, we've been trying to push IMF off our backs, so we didn't collapse at the recent worlwide financial crack. I guess we're communists too.
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
americans are very stubborn. stubborn to the point of dying believing in what they believe than admit they were wrong.
MrHoppers002 8 months ago
@mulle9999 : well said bro.. but am not from denmark \m/
appleslave 7 months ago
@mulle9999 OH..well..you paying 65% of your income to your government or your queen,and your happy...HMMM...i wonder what economy system you live at...
sammynassy2012 7 months ago
@mulle9999 Yeah, and all that money goes to the costs of shipping over those Muslims from the middle east and to feed their dozens of hungry children and give them special benefits because, well if we dont we are racist. All that money goes to welfare for Muslims and foreigners.
Dercommandingofficer 7 months ago
@Dercommandingofficer Do you think about anything you believe for more than 6 seconds?
franpan89 3 months ago
@mulle9999 The problem is that it doesnt seem like its possible to raise taxes in the US because when an american hears the word taxes they run and scream
marcuz5419 5 months ago
@mulle9999 40 - 65% nja lite skeptisk
WackaWinki 4 months ago
@mulle9999 Sadly you are right. I love America and I love capitalism and I have nothing against socialism. I just believe that capitalism works better and allows the people more freedom with their lives. Also I don't believe in people paying 40 to 60% of their income to the poor who are to lazy or have had some bad luck. The problem hear in America is that people have become greedy. One of the reasons we have become greedy is because we have become socialist..
Please read my next comment
ninjaboynaru 2 months ago
@mulle9999 I remember the days when the poor family in my community had no reason to go on welfare and food stamps because me and people from my community would go and help them get food pay bills and help them with their future what happened 1year later that family became one of the richest in the state Making 1million a year because they started their own business witch was able to succeed because there we not many regulations
If you force people to give they will give less
ninjaboynaru 2 months ago
I have to believe that, after seeing this movie, that we may be in for a revolution - by the people, in the workplace, at the bank (switching to community banks and credit unions), and focusing on getting decent people into government.
We may just see more protests, but then, we may see more of the people taking to the microphone to speak truth to power.
BootPatrol 1 year ago
Could that bitch be anymore biased???
WhiteFlowerLei76 1 year ago 2
@WhiteFlowerLei76 Shes hoping for a position at Fox News
cdamauser1963 1 year ago
Capital is the means of production. All countries are producing something therefore; they are all capitalist, where the difference is the ownership and control of the capital. In a Free Republic the capital is owned and controlled privately. In communism the state owns and controls the capital. All other governmental systems have a mixture of private and state ownership and control. Which Capital “Love Story” is Michael Moore infatuated with?
Mike10four 1 year ago
Should a 400 lb man advise us on the evils of over-consumption?
Should the resident of a million-dollar apartment claim to be a poster boy of the working class?
Should a person who thought that Enron was a great investment, that Ralph Nader, Wesley Clark and John Kerry would win, and that North Korea's Kim Jong was changing for the better, advise us on ANYTHING?
fan0frammstein88 1 year ago
@fan0frammstein88 the thing is that his oppinion is of little consiquence, but what is are the facts he presents
Phersephoie 1 year ago
half truths? where? nobody ever actually has an example. very lame. why do you guys hate American working families? do you want your credit card company to steal from you? which side are you on anyway?
idflux 1 year ago
"Every single day I wake up on the wrong side of capitalism..."
SrChavez85 1 year ago
Micheal what are you doing?, America is not ready for the truth people rather get burn to learn hence wall street coming down you think that was co-incident hell no that shit has been in the works for a long time like i said people are not ready time will tell for them who knows maybe then it would be to late
trini2dboneluv 1 year ago
It occurs to me that if MM was truly going to be consistent between sermon and deed, then this entire movie would be available here on YouTube.
atypicalguy 1 year ago
Social economics is were its at
agentcamo 1 year ago
Does Michael Moore know about basic ground income and consumers taxes? BTW Michael: it means rebirth of capitalism under the control of society.
Spargelpfluecker 1 year ago
Fantastic film, hopefully it educated the man ignorant people around the world who still think that capitalism is the best way to go about things!
euanrocks 1 year ago
@euanrocks Your a dumb ass the movie was about corporatism Moore himself admited to it. Capitalism is fine. Your brain on the other hand.........Woow
jsh78mang 1 year ago
The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing
arzoyan 1 year ago
capitalism is effective till government butts in with the claim that "they" know better and regulate it to death---or at least to its knees.
It's all part of a grand scheme, not for the benefit of the common man as they'd like you to believe, but for the elites (see who donates to the democratic campaigns, it's those "fat cats", lol).
I see NWO (New World Order) or something sinister in this scheme
SantaBarbaraDianne 1 year ago
Loved The movie!
evil420thug 1 year ago
People will die in any dominant economic system. We will all die. In 2012.
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pribadionly 1 year ago
Triumphant return?
That's too funny! How about you turn out your pockets!
Mikey, you have made millions by attacking capitalism, share the wealth you greedy BASTARD!
PoorMansPlato 1 year ago
I like how the "reporter" claims that Moore has been "caught in half truths more than once" but doesn't bother to provide evidence of this highly contestable statement. Of course, she did say it pretty confidently so I guess that proves her right. Plus, if I heard some unidentified person on the internet saying something then it must be true.
darmokandgalad 1 year ago
I Love michael moore!! he brings the truth u REPUBLICUNTS!!! keep hating him there are more like him1!
markee871 1 year ago
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Lizardking623 1 year ago
anybody world wide whom is for fairness and equality is a lover micheal moore! im from the UK and i wish he'd come over here and show ppl just how fucking stupid "politics" really fucking is! old boys club, fuck you!
colemanmills 1 year ago
I have two problems with Michael Moore: 1.) Didn't he vote for Obama? So why is he upset about the bailouts? 2.) If it weren't for capitalism, he would not be the millionaire he is today. The premise of a movie is a nice idea, but extremely hypocritical on Moore's part.
byronissexy 1 year ago
@byronissexy Perhaps because like the rest of us Americans who don't have amnesia it wasn't Obama who got congress to approve the bailout, it was Bush ... you know, that guy who was president for 8 years, got us into two wars that cost 3 trillion dollars and then begged congress to give more money to the biggest banks after they squandered our money away in derivatives to begin with thanks to Ronald Reagan deregulating banks? That's why people voted for Obama, to stop this crap.
nike2422 1 year ago
Fuckin NWO-Lier!
MankuOsiemDziewiec 1 year ago
i like micheal moors films, he's a smart man, but does anyone find it ironic his movies make huge profits and he also is an overweight american? He's still brilliant though.
thricegod1288 1 year ago
@thricegod1288 ah yes, one of the best examples of the paradox that is the US of A.
ubcphysicsyangbo 1 year ago
Liberals focus more on the negative rather than the positive. Michael Moore made so many dead end points in this movie. Socialism is not the cure for a bad economy. The amount of money Obama and Pelosi spent and gave to bail out other countries that don't even want to associate with us is way more than what Bush gave in bailouts. We might as well throw out the Constitution. I have never seen a President who doesn't like doing his job more than Obama.
Grapes428 1 year ago
@Grapes428 Now when the hell in the entire film did Moore even remotely suggest socialism over capitalism? Moore's key focus was giving the power back to the people to decide what they want the government to do with their money, rather than Wall Street. Now if you have actually bothered to watch the film (or if I actually have watched it, bother to understand it), you would have realize that.
ubcphysicsyangbo 1 year ago 3
@ubcphysicsyangbo
Do you think that it is possible to give government control back to the people, assuming it was there in the first place?
drew335533 1 year ago
Well, I think its fun to make fun of his immense mass bc I don't take him seriously, like many others. This guy makes the unintelligent believe capitalism = corrupt wall street, that it is only greed, and that those who are rich don't deserve what they have and should be portioned to the "less fortunate". The wealthiest pay the huge % of taxes, and they already pay for their welfare. To allow corrupt bureaucrats to decide how a persons income should be allocated is completely unjust and UNFAIR
Rammagith 1 year ago
@jazyF1, oh please dont rant about socialism or socialist countries since obviously you dont know what you're talking about and have pretty hard time understanding the words...
Darusdei 1 year ago
Capitalism has been in the world since human kind existed. Now when the economy is bad then capitalism is bad. So whats better? Socialism? Communism? What a bunch of stupid retards all of you are.
latengocomoburro 1 year ago
@latengocomoburro Maybe you need to realize that Democracy, Republic, Capitalism, Socialism or any other philosophical governmental / socio economical construct that is put into practice, comes in many various forms. They are only in fact ideas that can be shaped into utopias, or dictatorial tools. If you look at any country today, the original political and economical construct, that was good, are taking on unwanted proportions because they are not maintained sensibly on the political arena.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
The downturn in the economy was brought about loose FED and government policies, and the progressive loons that enabled it deliberately for their own agenda. The money supply has doubled in the last year, ensuring that the currency will be devalued. There are anti-American forces at work and the progressives are working hand in hand with them.
SDS4BO 1 year ago
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gardaal 1 year ago
Capitalism is Darwinian principal in action... makes sense and it's compatible with human nature...
keyotikdragon 1 year ago
@keyotikdragon Well, that would be the case if we lived in a meroticratic society. But we don't, so capitalism is not a "Darwinian principal", as you put it.
FacnyCatFighter 1 year ago
@FacnyCatFighter meroticratic? i merriamwebstered it and it didn't pull up.. what does it mean?
keyotikdragon 1 year ago
@keyotikdragon A meroticratic society is where everyone is born equal and with the same opportunities. This could not possibly exist in a capitalist society as those born to wealthier families will have a far greater chance of suceeding compared with those in the working class. They will have a better education, more time to study without having to worry about other resposibilities, and greater access to other resources.
FacnyCatFighter 1 year ago
Well done Michael. We love your work.
Thank you for opening peoples eyes.
pingacoja 1 year ago
By half-baked research did she mean the crappy research she did on Micheal Moore's movies?
XXninjakatanaXX 1 year ago
"half baked research?" :S
59Dinosaurs 1 year ago
eh... Does this mean that yanks are waking up from all that spoonfed propaganda called capitalism :D
i get so good laughs when people say "If you work hard you can make it" :D:DDD
Darusdei 1 year ago
It would be very helpful if you would include subtitles for those of us who are hearing impaired. Please consider it. I'm certain there are many of us who would be most grateful.
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kvanhorn5000 1 year ago
God that script this bimbo was given to read from was so annoying.
Still going to try to watch this film. I'm on the fence with Moore. I agree with of the apparent intentions behind some of his films, but his overall messages I find to be very misguided, and his research and facts are often inaccurate.
No question that his films will make you think and open up debates on the subject, whether you agree or disagree with his viewpoints. And they're often entertaining in their own way.
videochemist 1 year ago
gOD. how do you know she is a bimbo? at least she isnt a priest who molests kids.
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robbiemuellerlf 1 year ago
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Michael Moore is debunked. Nothing but a show-biz patsy.
AlexTronic777 1 year ago
Problem with the US is the special interest groups own the country, it's run by Wall St. which is a den of thieves, where's the $40 billion Madoff stole, The US citizen supports militarism and zionism, more US money is spent on the personal benefits of Israelis than on US citizens themselves. Watch Sicko and see the huge extortion perpetrated on citizens by the medico/drug enterprises.
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jilliancrowyb 1 year ago
seen it three times. good work michael
rcoones102 2 years ago 27
@rcoones102 agree, he just awesome , Zeitgeist too !
denthenNtdo 1 year ago
Michael Moore isn't touching any nerves this time. Healthcare and terrorism are divisive, but everyone seems to agree the banks didn't deserve their bailouts (at least not morally).
LordBifford 2 years ago
We're watching it next week and we can't wait! Moore does such a good job of making the horror of it all funny. The trailer was awesome! Thanks for posting.
BTW, for people who are too brain washed or who are under mind control and will have a heart attack if they watch anything other than the nazi fascist ignorant propaganda they are designed to digest, Moore films are funny!
Also, some of the greatest democracies of the world were built on SOCIALIST principle. "We the people" for example.
HostileNegotiator 2 years ago
Sorry.. I pushed the negative button by mistake.
Great Film.
CRVZS 1 year ago
what to say? This movies is absolutely amazing! I? watched it for free at MOVIEPRINCESS[.]com
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hubbabubba66, yes it is is'nt it. Awesome! Cannot wait to see the next one, I read earlier in this post that they are showing it on mo v i e - h u b . n e t
linnosgood15 2 years ago
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haliwhitted42 2 years ago
she smiles too much
karlosBP 2 years ago
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Fascism: A Love Story
would be a more apt title, but Michael Moore is always so quick to demonize capitalism and glorify socialism (yes the economic and political system responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths), that he would rather outright lie rather than call it for what it is.
Corporatism is economic fascism, not capitalism. Let's use some of that 5th grade knowledge shall we folks?
HapaLife 2 years ago
"socialism (yes the economic and political system responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths)" LoL Oh, you're serious? Maybe you should get your head out of your cold war propaganda filled ass.
wimscheers 2 years ago 10
@wimscheers
Ok, if socialism is so terrible, why is Canada, the country neighbouring the US, socialist? and yet, there is far less ( though there is still some ) corruption there?
funkytown2000 2 years ago 2
Im pro socialism.. but you are wrong.
Canada is not socialist...
I know that you are from Canada, but you are wrong.
CRVZS 1 year ago
@wimscheers 1.
Socialism:
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
islamiscrap8888 1 year ago
@wimscheers Degenerated Workers States have killed(accidentally I might add) less then 2 million.
cary123 1 year ago
@wimscheers socialism causes millions of dead? and what about capitalism? HAHAHA is like 10 times more deads.
kalandro14 1 year ago
@wimscheers communism, not socialism is responsible for the deaths you mention.
gggreggg 1 year ago
@gggreggg No, it's a bunch of psychos in power that kill people with people. We should blame it on them instead.
Cliffe4567 1 year ago
@Cliffe4567 yes, i really agree with you. my comment was really directed at the common perspective that socialism and communism are the "same". but, i do think that communism is more prone to dictatorship than is socialism. (i am not a socialist )
gggreggg 1 year ago
@gggreggg I agree with that.
Cliffe4567 1 year ago
@wimscheers well its true millions starved in Russia cause of Stalins restructuring of the economy he tried to control every aspect of agriculture and displaced people from their farms and couldn't feed themselves
TheMossad921 1 year ago
Stalin was a totalitarian communist. Please tell me how "to control every aspect of agriculture and displaced people from their farms" has anything to do with socialism?
wimscheers 1 year ago 2
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jwills0 1 year ago
@jwills0
"Facts = propaganda?" When did I say Facts = Propaganda?
wimscheers 1 year ago
@jwills0 Facts+Moore=Propaganda
Brandon75689 1 year ago
@Brandon75689 how can a fact be part of propaganda?
Phersephoie 1 year ago
@Phersephoie There's more to the truth than just the facts. All wise men know this.
Brandon75689 1 year ago
@wimscheers Do you or your kids go to school? That's socialism. Do you use the public sidewalks? That's socialism. Do you drive on highways? That's socialism. Do you currently oppose the war? That's socialism. Were you against the $700B bailout? That's socialism. Do you like the idea of alternative energy? You guessed it, that's socialism.
TheRealJHanson 1 year ago 3
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@TheRealJHanson hi there, you seem to be a socialist. i'm a little short on my mortgage this month, about 850 dollars. Can you help me out any? Maybe a collected effort of 50 bucks from each of your friends? Perhaps half your check?
pondfrog3 1 year ago
@pondfrog3 Wow... you clearly have no idea how socialism works.
ammarios 1 year ago
@ammarios my comment wasn't to explain socialism characteristics. My comment was toward what someone else said. Go troll someone else.
pondfrog3 1 year ago
@pondfrog3 Quote: "hi there, you seem to be a socialist. i'm a little short on my mortgage this month, about 850 dollars. Can you help me out any? Maybe a collected effort of 50 bucks from each of your friends? Perhaps half your check?" .... right...
ammarios 1 year ago 3
@wimscheers Capitalism was responsible for 'hundreds of millions of deaths'', because the devastation of war. Capitalism is now taking the world to an end when WWIII get started.
Capitalism is immoral, pure logics of animals, valuation of nature, a thought of non-sense.
zshuai 1 year ago 29
@zshuai Funny how without capitalism you wouldn't be writing your slanderous filth on youtube
yamumsonfire 1 year ago
@zshuai Umm...I pretty sure it was statism, not capitalism.
Lilbalitzu 11 months ago
@zshuai Then why are you using a computer?
AmericanBadass44 9 months ago
@zshuai Fascism and Japanese aggression was responsible for WW2. America didn't want to get in it. Although we were dragged when France fell Britain was begin attacked. Also the slaughter of million when the government controls your and if u speak of the atrocities or of them and their complete control u die. Your stupidity make me want to hit my head on the wall. I'm sad to inform you that you have no idea what your talking about. The one flaw in your logic. This is Earth.
11111Delta 8 months ago
@11111Delta America funded the Nazi's until WWII. Also you really have no argument whatsoever in your comment.
minimumOFaMAXIMUM 8 months ago
@zshuai Communism was responsible for the deaths of thousands of people who took a stand for there religion or political beliefs. The USSR was a empire dedicated to forceing its citizens to agree and it was flawd by allowing full power to the leader of the Party. the same thing with other current comi countries except North Korea took this to an extreme by creating a personality cult and China watered it down abit. Dont talk about things before you research. And you call me an animalwhenyousupp-
siverhawkproductions 2 months ago
islam will prevail
xecone27 2 years ago
i thought the american dream was about working hard and being free to enjoy the fruits of your labour.
unfortunatly however, most people are unable to do so becos the fruits of their labour are taken from them by their employer. this is theft, however, they have the law on theirside so it does not count as theft, but "buisiness".
the only way to avoid this is to work for yourself or work in a co-operative
ichigo199 2 years ago
"If you want something, work for it. If you do not work, you deserve nothing. Regardless of how rich the rich are. "
but the rich are rich because they steal from the working class, making them poor. this occurs becos they own the means of production and they keep all the profits, when they did no work themselves and it was the workers who earned those profits, and thus they are the ones who should have them.
ichigo199 2 years ago
What half truth ? Look on his site he has every single fact from his movies listed with the source as well. Lady shut up you don't know anything or more so the parrot that wrote your lines.
alexlancer11 2 years ago
I love the U.S.s version Capitalism, It gives me the freedom to compete for the lowest wages and standard of living in the world. Thanks Mike.
justaoldslave 2 years ago 2
America has the highest standard of living in the world. Where the hell would you ever come up with garbage like that?
getdjman 2 years ago
LOL Come on, really? Do American people actually read or do you just make stuff up/believe your media without question? I'm sure a lot of you do read but the ones that don't, like this clown, really make the rest of you look spectacularly stupid.
Look at the human development index, the index for living standards and you'll see that the USA is not even in the top 10. Even Canada is higher than you :D. The UK, where i'm from, is even lower. The UK's a shit hole! Least I admit it though.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
The UK is a far left country.
getdjman 2 years ago
Far left FAR LEFT? Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha, that's the most amusing thing i've heard in quite some time. Labour may claim to be socialist but they abandoned their roots long ago, they have just carried on Neo Liberal policies.
I suggest you actually do some reading before you post further and make an even bigger tit of yourself.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Sure the US has a very high standard of living but it's not the best. What makes it even more amusing is that nearly all the top 10 countries have left leaning governments with universal health care and generous welfare for people out of work.
Interesting that eh? I bet you right wingers can't stand it can ya? Frothing at the mouth because the evidence contradicts your capitalist bullshit and proves that social democracy creates the best societies :D.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Also the human development index does not take into account freedom and human rights. Maybe these countries do have a better GDP but in regards to how much freedom? I personally would rather have freedom than money.
getdjman 2 years ago
Spoken like a true capitalist Yank. Everything has to be measured in GDP doesn't it? Do you actually read anything? The HDI measures on literacy rates, health and longevity, not just GDP.
Talking about human rights, you seriously wanna use that to prop up your pathetic argument? Are you seriously suggesting that countries like Norway, Canada, Holland, Sweden etc carry out serious human rights abuses and the people aren't free?
Seriously, you're looking like a deluded tool now.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
You have conniptions like a barbaric ruffian. I read consistently and am very well-informed, if you would like to debate stop presenting yourself as an arrogant savage. The UK is a far left country, there is simply no refuting that point. And America has an extremely large population, making it difficult to account for every individual. We also are much more benevolent than any other country. 100 nations would go hungry without the US. Maybe at this point we are not #1, but we have been b4.
getdjman 2 years ago
Ruffian? LOL I didn't realise we were living in the 1930s. That point can be easily refuted by the fact I live in the UK and you don't, this country isn't far left AT ALL. Far left is communism and believe me this is far from being a communist country. I'll let you off though because you're a yank, and many yanks think anywhere with universal health care and unemployment benefit is some communist dictatorship.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Seriously, you are massively uninformed if you think the US is benevolent. Your country has attacked more countries than anyone else since the end of WW2 and we ride on your rancid coat tails.
Large population is an extremely pathetic excuse but that appears to be all you have. You've never been number 1 and you never will be because your country is a selfish, individualist, plastic shit hole and it's a dying empire.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Read WHO reports on what American corporations do to third world countries, take a look at how you exploit workers for fuck all pay, read about vulture funds. Read about how countries can't provide public services because of the US dominated IMF forcing them to service crippling debts, read about economic restructuring, and then get back to me.
My 13 year old sister is more informed than you.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Well, were it not for America, you'd be speaking German.
ok...start swearing.
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ChunderChunk 2 years ago
My point in all this is I find it difficult to find Americans who acknowledge the crimes committed by their government. Instead you just waffle on about how you save the world from all sorts of evil whereas you actually create vast amounts of it. There's a reason why the world hates the UK and the US, it's because between us we've been brutal, war mongering assholes for the past 400 years or so.
We still do it but you've taken the lead role now. Admit it, then move on, simple.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Were it not for General Patton you would've had your arses wiped all over the Ardennes Forrest. Oh and let's not forget how that great American company, IBM, allowed for efficiency in the Holocaust.
Let's also not kid ourselves that the US entered the war out of the goodness of your hearts, you entered both wars (late) because you saw an opportunity to make money, not because you gave a shit about Europe (and why would you?).
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
The only reason America entered the war is because the Bush's and many others found an opportunity to make all lot of money...and that they did. I cannot control the immoral nature of our leaders, as every country has such corruption. But to be optimistic you must give both European nations and America alike credit. We have not enslaved our people nor have oppressed them to such extremities as have other countries. Euro-American culture is also responsible for the blunt of innovation.
getdjman 2 years ago
Granted, so if you follow that line of logic doesn't it just show that all states are illegitimate power structures that ultimately serve the interests of an elite few and therefore should be done away with? They will, IMO, eventually eat themselves anyway because more and more will realise that institutions cannot provide for all their needs.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
No we haven't enslaved our own citizens as much, we've just brutalised and enslaved the citizens of other countries. Slave trade, genocide of native Americans, starving to death millions of Indians. Bringing it up to modern times our corporations now pay people poverty wages in our own countries, more so abroad, and have forced people into a race to the bottom with fewer jobs for less pay. Corporations hold the power, governments are just there to take the wrath.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
@ChunderChunk Finally someone else that gets it. "Corporations hold the power, governments are there to take the wrath". Thank you, thank you, thank you. Keep up the good work bruddah.
hrsqsiest 2 years ago