Colossus, The Forbin Project

[Spartacus217]

Does Colossus say "unburied dead" or "unburied debt"? You can never tell with the economy going up and down.

[ordykes1]

Was this the computer that caused the apes to take over in"planet Of The Apes"?

[deathlok2099]

this one of my all time favored movies it could use a remake

[95yonatan]

if this computer can control the world... imagine what my mac can do

[CynicalVision]

@95yonatan

Your Mac can't do anything...it's a Mac.

[SteveBrant55]

This movie is being shown on Wednesday Sept 28th 2011 in L.A. and "Dr. Forbin" himself will be there to discuss the movie! You can buy tickets on Fandango. Here's the theater...

American Cinematheque at the Aero Theatre

1328 Montana Ave.

Santa Monica, CA 90403

[7BillionAndDying]

This is absolutely, without a doubt, one of my favorite movies of all time.

[HyperMediums]

Man vs. machine: Colossus, HAL 9000, Skynet, The Matrix, Watson, ...

[GhostPlanetFilms]

@HyperMediums GLaDOS, ARIIA (Eagle Eye), AMEE (Red Planet),...

PS: What's "Watson?"

[CarlosAngelo1]

@GhostPlanetFilms Watson is the computer who won Jeopardy! this year.

[GhostPlanetFilms]

@CarlosAngelo1 Oh. Thanks!

[kurtb8474]

Why are movies, that introduced new provocative ideas back in the 60s and 70s, called 'cheesy?' Can you youngsters even understand the impact this movie made back then? Computers were largely the domain of government and large corporations and a mystery to ordinary people. Plus, we were facing off with the Soviets in a Cold War. Suggesting that world powers were building massive computers to control everything was frightening.

[eternallypre]

Cheese in movie form. Gotta love B-movie sci-fi.

[wtf0804]

Does any one know if they are still going to do a remake of this movie?

[GhostPlanetFilms]

@wtf0804 Ron Howard was gonna try to. Unfortunately, the idea slipped in 'development hell.'

[eggplant101]

This was a great movie. It got lost, and was found again by Skynet. A remake is more than appropriate now. I agree with the earlier posters: countdown to singularity/Colossus/Skynet has begun.

[GTALuis94]

Colossus = Illuminati

[TomsFriendKake]

Unless they actually programmed the computer to understand what sex is, how would it know that Forbin needed a women?

[nycrackhead]

I like the word forbidden.

[MillBelater]

If colossus were running ubuntu, it would crash due to an improperly configured xorg.conf

[MarshmallowRadiation]

Meh, nothing can beat HAL as the ultimate evil computer.

StOP, dAve. i cAn fEEl iT.

[hotelmario510]

@MarshmallowRadiation I don't think HAL detonated a nuclear warhead and killed hundreds of people. He killed one guy.

[alonenjersey]

@hotelmario510 Actually the great HAL 9000 killed four members of the Discovery crew.

[hotelmario510]

@alonenjersey Oh yeah, my mistake. Still, he didn't kill HUNDREDS.

[alonenjersey]

@hotelmario510  Granted. Poor HAL became paranoid. Colossus was simply evil.

[ladster3]

IBM, Watson, Jeopardy... Feb.....the countdown begins...

[ChristopherDone]

Trailers in these days were boring, hehe.

This film is fantastic, though. I should read the books.

[dolittle0342]

I saw this movie when I was 10 years old and thought mankind was doomed in this story if it were true,but now after reviewing this movie I see the only way to defeat colossus, Dr. Charles Forbin had to defeat himself because colossus is an extension of himself.

[MISTERFRANK]

GREAT MOVIE

[mgnssss]

AGREED

[IggyHazard]

Skynet meets THX-1138.

[psylentknight]

@IggyHazard Hell, even some Eagle Eye, too.

[IggyHazard]

@psylentknight When will these uber-altruistic totalitarian machines learn that order is for the weak? That's why humans will always pwn machines -- because we're chaotic. Freedom is more powerful than order.

[paladin712]

I heard they are going to remake this movie

[xXIDAVO]

@paladin712 Will Smith is ment to star in it

[Doctor699]

Just a rip off of 1984, except Big Brother is the computer!

[GTALuis94]

@Doctor699 This was out in 1970 Dumbass....

[hotelmario510]

@GTALuis94 1984 was published in 1948, dipshit.

[GTALuis94]

@hotelmario510 wrong again, it was published on 8th June 1949 :P

[hotelmario510]

@GTALuis94 Oh, so you admit it, now, do you? I admire your courage.

[GTALuis94]

@hotelmario510 :/

[hotelmario510]

@GTALuis94 :) All in good humour, sir. Just remember to Google before you correct someone :D

[GTALuis94]

@hotelmario510 :/

[hotelmario510]

@GTALuis94 Fine, be that way.

[GTALuis94]

@hotelmario510 :P

[hotelmario510]

@GTALuis94 :)

[ghostband2012]

10.10.10

[MaryStewart]

@YourLastViewer

and you lefties are atheist commies ruining american freedom and traditional values and morals wil pc bullshit!

[teenonator]

@MaryStewart But we're having more fun, and will have your daughter home by 11

[hotelmario510]

@MaryStewart Oh no, not atheists! HEAVEN FORBID IF THEY MAKE THE CHOICE NOT TO BELIEVE IN GOD! Oh *swoon*!

[willfulillwill]

! smooth suspense !

[SmokingSpoon]

Joel Hodgson talk of this movie, I have to see it , ha ha. And Silent Running too

[YourLastViewer]

@jackiemickel

Rightwingers eat own excrement and call it ambrosia, they also thump bible while screwing own kids and make passes on other men in public restrooms then wrap themselves in the American Flag speak in tongues dance with rattlesnakes with their eyes rolled back into their low brow foreheads.

[ichi1082]

obey and live or disobey and die

ROBOTRON

[tstms1988]

Fantastic film

[hodge12009]

This is a great movie, but why didn't all the genius scientists think about shutting off the power to the computers?!? Without electricity it can't do anything. Then once the power is out just take apart the computer at you leisure! Better yet, just nuke both computers. Not all nukes are on top of missiles. The ones dropped from long range bombers were still controlled by people, and the US and USSR had them!

[SuperSkrull191]

@hodge12009 cuz that idea takes common sense something super smart scientists don't have.

[TheJamesrocket]

@hodge12009 'why didn't all the genius scientists think about shutting off the power to the computers?!?' Colossus' complex had automated weapons systems strewn throughout it, which it took control over. Besides, the scientists were afraid that any such action would provoke the artifint into letting the nukes fly as one last, twisted act of revenge.

[ChristopherDone]

@hodge12009 If you remember, the machine is purposely protected against that by design, otherwise any terrorist could just go and turn it off and risk safety of the nation. I believe once it was activated it gained control of the nukes and left its finger on the button as a threat. It wasn't as simple as unplugging it.

[kryptiea]

saw this when i was 9 scared the hell out of me

[RX552VBK]

The sequel novel, the fall of colossus, had the machine designing a defense against an extraterrestial attack. That why in the movie, Colossus forced everyone of the island of Crete. As soon as it went online, the joined with Guardian, Colossus detected the alien attack. It's actually humanity's savior--unlike Skynet.

[RaptureFilmz]

before IM?

[rbairos1]

Victor Newman dreams up a fake an evil super computer to get laid. Good on him.

[jackiemickie]

Enslaving the world, sounds like, Barrack and his gang of left wing control freaks.

Thank God, these left wing, control freak hypocrites are pro choice and pro freedom and get the government out of our lives on one issue, killing unborn children. I guess even these left wing, control freaks and liberty crushers have to be pro freedom on at least one issue.

[Trainpipeman]

This truly an excellent film, but it is unfinished. There was supposed to be follow-ups/sequels but they were never made. There was some talk about a new Colossus movie last year, but I don't think it went anywhere.

I remember being a kid and the computer's voice creeping me out. It still does.

[alonenjersey]

@Trainpipeman A sequel sounds good to me. How about what our world and us humans have become say ten years after being taken over by Colossus? As for it's voice, it creeped me out when I first saw the film at 19.

[Arbeedubya]

I have this movie and thoroughly enjoy it. I suppose I should read the novel and its sequels. It's amusing to see what the state of the art in computers was like in the late '60's/early '70's. As to the impregnability of the computer, I suppose any hacker worthy of the name these days could get in and sabotage it. Btw, I understand Ron Howard had was going to remake it, but nothing came of it. Makes me wonder if Braeden would have had a cameo.

[alonenjersey]

It's been years since I've seen this underrated film. Why do I feel that we humans already have this kind of technology?

[02javis]

sound good to me!

[marq74]

..........Before the W.A.P.O.R., before Skynet!

[UncleFexxer]

It would have been interesting if the next two books in the series had been made into movies. In the 2nd, the world becomes (apparently) this peaceful, hi-tech utopia, but Colossus is also doing a lot of sadistic Dr. Mengele - type experiments on human beings. Aliens contact the humans to help them kill Colossus... then take over the Earth to harvest its atmosphere now that it's defenseless. In the 3rd book humans reactivate Colossus to help them defeat the Martians. It's a wild series.

[royboy56100]

@UncleFexxer I never read past the 1st,wish i had now as they are hard to find.Appreciate the quick synopsis of the later books.

[Commack08]

@UncleFexxer Sounds like a good trilogy.. With modern movie making, it just might be possible today. (Provided the die hard fans would accept a re-make if sequels were coming.)

[legna20v]

i wanna see this movie .. netflix has it but witha list of 70 or so movies is gonna take forever to see this one

does anyone knwo where can i stream this movie?

[seanhoutx]

let it play tic-tac-toe

[legna20v]

lol ,... funny boy

[BunchofMovieVideos]

That's Susan Clark, from Coogans Bluff . . . she's awesome. :)

[lashwhip]

This is a great movie, wish it got more attention. No doubt it's SKYNET , the movie has a bleak style and at times feels more like a documentary. Mr. Forbin is to be both commended and dammed!

[proadmin1]

The grand-daddy of Skynet. I personally loved the monologue at the end of the movie, and considering peak-oil, corruption, terrorism, there could definitely be worse fates - bring on the singularity I say.

[BathedinSin]

I for one support our new mechanical overlords.

[dyinglikeflies]

@BathedinSin -well, to the extent we can all get behind the idea of synthetically enlarged breasts, it would be hypocritical to disagree.

[spectorshadow]

Obama, The Daily Kos Project.

[chrisbell1987]

hhhmmmmmmmmmm SKYNET anyone

[wibbly]

Yeah. 14 years before Terminator.

[achtung26]

ahahaha you fucking retard!

[davidUtUb2]

It has a fantastic opening. Better than the movie? The loneliness of man. Can someone upload it?

Another good opening is to Aliens...

[aelion88]

Great movie. Scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. Even back then I was fascinated by computers & when I saw this; it got me thinking. I imagined my neighborhood trapped in our houses by an all seeing computer, controlling all mechanisms. Thanks for posting this blast from the past. I was talking to a friend about the internet & its worldwide application & then this popped into my head, prodding me to go online & look it up. They'll probably do a remake as they are "Fantastic Voyage".

[magnacartafan]

Is Eagle Eye somewhat a remake of this?

[12Zwolf]

Thank You For Posting; Again, the Internet, and E-Mail spoilt this cry-baby N.W.O. scenario,

Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!

Cheers!

Valkyrie Ziege Mourne

[cochranexyz]

They are going to remake this? Is there no original idea left in Hollywood?

[02javis]

are these computers

mac or pc

p1 p2 can

you play halo or guitar hero wirh them?

[1stsmosh]

I WANT FORBIN!

[vexviper]

I'm going to buy it on DVD Wide Addition

[Bfdidc]

This film is dated but still remains creepy and claustrophobic.

[CaptainConfederacy]

Interesting premise (ie mankind is faced with "peace" but with the heavy price of independence) for a film that was made during the high tide of the Peace/Anti-War movement. The original wasn't very successful probably because the premise when so against the grain of the times, but it was still a fine sci-fi film.

[fuzzywzhe]

> Interesting premise (ie mankind is faced with

> "peace" but with the heavy price of

> independence)

What independence do we really have?

The computer was coldly logical, but it wasn't cruel. It might be an improvement over today, where nations go to war for the benefit of a few at the expense of most of the society.

[scotpens]

With its control of the world's nuclear weapons, Colossus enforced peace by the threat of annihilation. Peace is meaningless unless it's chosen by human beings of their own free will. The moral is similar to that of "A Clockwork Orange": When a man can no longer choose, he ceases to be a man.

[fuzzywzhe]

> Peace is meaningless unless it's chosen by

> human beings of their own free will.

Why do you believe this?

Peace is enforced by people you have no control over now. What difference would it make if a human is enforcing it or a machine?

What has the US gone to war with Iraq over? The US is acting like a thug. That's most wars, attempts to steal resources of one sort or another.

[scotpens]

Colossus was designed by its creators to have a perpetual power supply. It could never be deactivated or turned off. Would you willingly turn over control of your country, let alone the entire world, to an absolute ruler who's accountable to no one, who can't be voted out of office, who can't even be assassinated -- and will never die?

Even when benevolent and paternalistic, whether made of flesh and blood or silicon, a dictator is still a dictator.

[fuzzywzhe]

> Would you willingly turn over control of your

> country, let alone the entire world, to an

> absolute ruler who's accountable to no one,

> who can't be voted out of office, who can't

> even be assassinated -- and will never die?

If it had any sense of morality, yes.

> Even when benevolent and paternalistic,

> whether made of flesh and blood or silicon,

> a dictator is still a dictator.

The best form of governance is said to be a benevolent dictator.

[scotpens]

If that's what you truly believe, then we're living on different planets.

It would be nice if we could be governed by philosopher kings. It would also be nice if nobody got sick, if nobody's dog ever got run over, if the Great Pumpkin really rose from the pumpkin patch on Halloween and brought toys to all the good little children -- and if nobody ever had to grow up.

A person who wants a "benevolent dictator" is someone who wants to remain a child. Do yourself a favor. GROW UP.

[fuzzywzhe]

> If that's what you truly believe, then we're

> living on different planets.

The funny thing is that you truly believe it to.

Do you support the Patriot Act? The Iraq War? The Military Commissions Act? The $840 billion dollar bailout?

BOTH McCain and Obama voted for it.

> A person who wants a "benevolent dictator"

> is someone who wants to remain a child.

There are no adults in the world today.

Look around you.

[ballantrae101]

first said by a man who taught a mass murderer. (Aristotle - Alexander)

[najhoant]

Is it just me or does Colossus' voice sound like the voice of the "All your base are belong to us"-voice?

[mrdispensation]

If they remade this movie, I wonder if the characters would be getting YouTube on Colossus? The HORROR!

[TangomanX2008]

It seems to me the most likely scenario for a horrible future in computer involves not a perfect computer, but mankind becoming slaves to computer systems that constantly slow down, crash, need to be reinstalled, or constantly need service patches installed.

[scotpens]

Isn't that what we have now? LOL

[ChristopherHillman]

I copied this to a tape ..thEn copied Terminator 2 after it ..and in sequence Terminator 2 looks like a sequel to Colossus (..it`s really really cool to see the old-style movie with forbin saying he`ll NEVER obey ..then see what looks like 15 years later with super advanced robots going around crushing skulls etc.)

[angel2901]

I wanna see the movie!

[LorenzKamo]

Skynet 1.0

[tsalikaki]

one of my favorite movies of all time

[ozcobblepot218]

Still a suspense packed thriller, similar to Sidney Lumet's Failsafe. Can't wait for the Ron Howard remake. Let's hope Hollywood doesn't balls it up like they've done with others.

[Orious69]

Colossus=Skynet?

[deloreanized]

Indeed, Mr. Connor...

[SyndiCossack]

Naw! Colossus is much brighter and may I say, rightious than that idiocy!

[hafjapmatt]

This movie was pretty great.

Reminded me of other dystopian movies/novels.

[imperfectfilms]

Obviously some liberal, anti-Bush propaganda!!

[youtub3k]

Based on the novel by D.F. Jones. I once heard a rumor that after filming it was realized that the fear wasn't that Colossus would take over the world, but that it wouldn't! So I quess perhaps D.F. Jones got it wrong.

[youtub3k]

Great! Here we see that a widescreen version of the trailer existed anyway. So why has the movie itself never been released as WS on VHS or DVD?! I'd have bought the thing, if it were. But I only found FS DVDs being sold, briefly, before even these vanished.