You can always use alcohol, toilet paper, and tobacco. During a few of my travels I actually paid for a couple of small things with alcohol or a pack of smokes. So regardless of the worlds condition these three items have value.
Very interesting video. I think it is a great idea to stock items that you can trade after a SHTF event. I suggest considering items that will be more valued at various stages post SHTF. For example early on people may value day to day items to maintain a more normal lifestyle, like canned foods, cigarettes, and alcohol. If shortages last for months or even years, people may be more interested in bullets, or salt. Salt? It is in almost everything we eat. It is a must for preserving and canning.
@wizz202 oh...and salt lasts forever and you can buy it bulk at many stores where they sell water softner supplies. Pick up a hundred pounds for $8. Trade it post SHTF for whatever others can offer.
silver is not out of anyones reach,my 1 friend tried telling my that as he bought a $9 pack of smokes,he could have got 3 dimes for it.anyone can by 2 dimes a week
@18wheeler76 Sure if he reallocated his money I suppose he could buy some silver. Obviously the way he lives his life keeps it is out of his reach. To him spending that $9 that he spends on smokes is not an option.
US currency has been rubbish for years. Do what I did. Pay the 450 bucks to exercise your Constitutional rights and formally and legally renounce your citizenship and burn your US passport. Why wait around for the SHTF scenarios in the USA? Why wait to be placed in a FEMA camp? What's the point? I see guys on YT all the time with their guns and ammo while ignoring the fact that they will be easily out manned and out gunned. Get out while you can.
@Calkirk19 I left the US in 06. Benefits? Many. I am taxed less, live safer, have better medical, dental, more freedom, I am not under US law, the NDAA, nor am I a target when traveling. I don't messed with @ airports, I can bank freely and without refusal, I can invest easier, move easier, and overall have a better quality of life since my legal status has completely changed as a direct result of NOT being an "American". Those are a few of many benefits.
Gold and silver have been money for thousands of years. Old coins that are 90% silver are the best alternative currency. A 1960 silver dime is worth about $2.40 right now. I imagine things will be bought and sold in quantities equal in value to a silver dime. Copper and aluminum will always have value but it would be difficult to figure out what that value is. The most important thing is to have enough food and other supplies. Your excess wealth should be in junk silver.
feed them or you cant make clothes out of, will be worth ANYTHING. It's the SAME THING AS PAPER MONEY, gold and silver are substances of this earth that were GIVEN a make belief value by some people, just as printed currency. So F your gold and silver CRAP, its an illusion and nothing more. If people are going to "prep", they need to give their heads a shake and get in the CORRECT mindset. Completely ridiculous concept, this whole gold and silver thing. "My rock is worth $10 cuz i said it is!"
@PrepperAries Gold sliver will be key say if the u.s. dollar folds but say the SHTF don't happen cause 1 country hold up and out too a world failing economy. then that gold buy you their currency and buy you out of a 3rd world country into a 2cd world country struggling by and by you a better way of life. Anyway gold is hard wired in the human mind too = value even in a SHTF. this still mean a gang shooting you for it too.
@PrepperAries it must be worth something if its been used for $4,000 yrs,but you make an excellant point...food,water,guns,ammo,tools,liquor,toilet paper,seeds,taacoo,cocaine,shrooms,mary jane,crack,will all be worth way more than gold
As well..with the whole situation, the only thing people will want is what mrwirelesscaller stated...FOOD, will be everything, even if you cant prep guns and ammo now, give it 2 weeks MAX into a "full-blown" shtf situation, you can walk up to people with some Mr.Noodles or instant noodle soups and say hey, heres 2 dinners, gimme 50 rounds, or heres a weeks worth of food, gimme your rifles and ammo...they will be begging you to take it! I dont understand why people think some metal that CANT....
I have to agree with Mrwirelesscaller and disagree with shtfsurvivalist. MAYBE long term, that stuff will be of value, but think of how many people will die during shtf. For that reason, If i was needing these "valuable" metals, i'd go pull them out of a dead person's house. No point in wasting time, energy and space pulling copper out of your old wires. Also remember, in a shtf situation, anyone can walk into a dump zone and pick the crap they need or want. They wont be coming to you.
When shtf the initial few days and weeks will be a trade of resources (water, food, and medicine primarily) and labor. Multiple small usable items like knives (even cheap ones from harbor freight), aspirin, energy bars, and water purification pills are all cheap, light, and easy items to carry and will be in high demand by many after the initial chaos. Portable shelters if the situation lasts a while since people would maybe be mobile going from place to place to seek greener pastures.
golds not out of reach for even a bum. you can buy gold by the grain for like $4 too $10 dollars. most in the middle class area can buy grams of gold to 1 once coins. Nickels yes u.s. Nickels are 25% Nickel and 75% copper worth 20.3% premium over its face value. salt too will worth money as you need 15g a day too live and huge need to preserve food after shtf idea.
Good alternative ideas. I too agree that Lead is a good idea. Not a lot because of its weight and toxicity, but a little diversity never hurt anyone when it comes to precious metals. I'm storing silver, brass, copper, lead, and a very small amount of gold. I'd like to figure an affordable way to store taconite iron pellets for future forging.
Hey boss, I appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video, but I think that it is a little off the mark. Being able to have aluminum ingots for 'when people start rebuilding civilization' is nice, but the key thing is making it that far. I don't honestly think aluminum bars will have value until the majority of people have made it past subsitance living.. trying to trade an aluminum bar for an MRE for a year or two after SHTF is a no-go. Interested in seeing the furnace stuff
I keep hearing people saying one should have a store of silver coins (and maybe some gold coins), but not everybody can afford to buy & store a significant quantity. MREs, retort pouches of food, wind/waterproof matches, flints and strikers, cigarettes (?), amongst possible others, could all be used in bartering situations. A silver coin is all very nice, but bartering will often benefit both parties if each person has something the other wants. A person can use skills or crafts as bartering.
Great barter items video. Don’t forget your labor as the most valuable currency you have to offer… If it’s skilled labor… all the better… Thanks for posting
Great videos as always! I'm wondering if a bullet casting pot would get hot enough to melt all these metals? I have a LEE lead ingot melting furnace to cast my own bullets for reloading it can reach 900 degrees with a sustained temp of about 1400...
@TheTxtreeman 1600 degrees ferinheight is the minimum melting temperature of aluminum but aluminum dissipates heat rather fast so you would want it much hotter to be manageable. Copper melting temperature is around 2000 ferinheight and so is gold and silver. Another thing is for each type of metal you melt you should have a different crucible to avoid cross contamination of the metals.
@TheTxtreeman I think most lead pots are made of cast iron and cast iron can be used as a crucible for aluminum since the melting temperature is much lower
You can barter just about anything, but currency needs to be trustworthy. Stick to junk silver [pre 1964 American coins] Gold will be used to buy real estate. You have a hard enough time breaking a $100 bill today, how are you going to make change for a $5000 oz. of gold? I wont trust anyone with homemade ingots.
Great points you raise man. I would really be interested in seeing what you have for melting this stuff down. Great idea. Great video idea too man. Thanks.
You can always use alcohol, toilet paper, and tobacco. During a few of my travels I actually paid for a couple of small things with alcohol or a pack of smokes. So regardless of the worlds condition these three items have value.
TheFlamingGopher 1 day ago
Very interesting video. I think it is a great idea to stock items that you can trade after a SHTF event. I suggest considering items that will be more valued at various stages post SHTF. For example early on people may value day to day items to maintain a more normal lifestyle, like canned foods, cigarettes, and alcohol. If shortages last for months or even years, people may be more interested in bullets, or salt. Salt? It is in almost everything we eat. It is a must for preserving and canning.
wizz202 5 days ago
@wizz202 oh...and salt lasts forever and you can buy it bulk at many stores where they sell water softner supplies. Pick up a hundred pounds for $8. Trade it post SHTF for whatever others can offer.
wizz202 5 days ago
Ever since I played the fallout series i been stocking up on bottle caps
commando76239er 5 days ago
seeds would be a good currency as well
RonPaulForPres012 2 weeks ago
@RonPaulForPres012 Yeah I agree seeds would be valuable.
SHTFSurvivalist 2 weeks ago
@RonPaulForPres012 what does wrol stand for.
wnyprepper 5 days ago
salt, sugar, bullets, meds. goods will be the new currency. i bet you would trade every piece of metal for a hot dog if you are starving.
eizrah 2 weeks ago
silver is not out of anyones reach,my 1 friend tried telling my that as he bought a $9 pack of smokes,he could have got 3 dimes for it.anyone can by 2 dimes a week
18wheeler76 4 weeks ago
@18wheeler76 Sure if he reallocated his money I suppose he could buy some silver. Obviously the way he lives his life keeps it is out of his reach. To him spending that $9 that he spends on smokes is not an option.
SHTFSurvivalist 4 weeks ago
Best thing you could get right now is a gun to protect all this stuff.
michcool1012 1 month ago
US currency has been rubbish for years. Do what I did. Pay the 450 bucks to exercise your Constitutional rights and formally and legally renounce your citizenship and burn your US passport. Why wait around for the SHTF scenarios in the USA? Why wait to be placed in a FEMA camp? What's the point? I see guys on YT all the time with their guns and ammo while ignoring the fact that they will be easily out manned and out gunned. Get out while you can.
JORDANSAGESVLOG 1 month ago
@JORDANSAGESVLOG Believe it or not I have given it a lot of thought. Just can't convince the wife and I have four kids.
SHTFSurvivalist 1 month ago
@SHTFSurvivalist but where would be the safest place to retreat to if you had the option to bug out?
RonPaulForPres012 2 weeks ago
@JORDANSAGESVLOG so did you move out of the United States?...what is the benefit of renouncing your citizenship rather than just leaving?
Calkirk19 3 weeks ago
@Calkirk19 I left the US in 06. Benefits? Many. I am taxed less, live safer, have better medical, dental, more freedom, I am not under US law, the NDAA, nor am I a target when traveling. I don't messed with @ airports, I can bank freely and without refusal, I can invest easier, move easier, and overall have a better quality of life since my legal status has completely changed as a direct result of NOT being an "American". Those are a few of many benefits.
JORDANSAGESVLOG 3 weeks ago
Gold and silver have been money for thousands of years. Old coins that are 90% silver are the best alternative currency. A 1960 silver dime is worth about $2.40 right now. I imagine things will be bought and sold in quantities equal in value to a silver dime. Copper and aluminum will always have value but it would be difficult to figure out what that value is. The most important thing is to have enough food and other supplies. Your excess wealth should be in junk silver.
lingsun52 1 month ago 3
feed them or you cant make clothes out of, will be worth ANYTHING. It's the SAME THING AS PAPER MONEY, gold and silver are substances of this earth that were GIVEN a make belief value by some people, just as printed currency. So F your gold and silver CRAP, its an illusion and nothing more. If people are going to "prep", they need to give their heads a shake and get in the CORRECT mindset. Completely ridiculous concept, this whole gold and silver thing. "My rock is worth $10 cuz i said it is!"
PrepperAries 1 month ago 3
@PrepperAries Gold sliver will be key say if the u.s. dollar folds but say the SHTF don't happen cause 1 country hold up and out too a world failing economy. then that gold buy you their currency and buy you out of a 3rd world country into a 2cd world country struggling by and by you a better way of life. Anyway gold is hard wired in the human mind too = value even in a SHTF. this still mean a gang shooting you for it too.
starknight97 1 month ago
@PrepperAries it must be worth something if its been used for $4,000 yrs,but you make an excellant point...food,water,guns,ammo,tools,liquor,toilet paper,seeds,taacoo,cocaine,shrooms,mary jane,crack,will all be worth way more than gold
18wheeler76 4 weeks ago
As well..with the whole situation, the only thing people will want is what mrwirelesscaller stated...FOOD, will be everything, even if you cant prep guns and ammo now, give it 2 weeks MAX into a "full-blown" shtf situation, you can walk up to people with some Mr.Noodles or instant noodle soups and say hey, heres 2 dinners, gimme 50 rounds, or heres a weeks worth of food, gimme your rifles and ammo...they will be begging you to take it! I dont understand why people think some metal that CANT....
PrepperAries 1 month ago
I have to agree with Mrwirelesscaller and disagree with shtfsurvivalist. MAYBE long term, that stuff will be of value, but think of how many people will die during shtf. For that reason, If i was needing these "valuable" metals, i'd go pull them out of a dead person's house. No point in wasting time, energy and space pulling copper out of your old wires. Also remember, in a shtf situation, anyone can walk into a dump zone and pick the crap they need or want. They wont be coming to you.
PrepperAries 1 month ago
When shtf the initial few days and weeks will be a trade of resources (water, food, and medicine primarily) and labor. Multiple small usable items like knives (even cheap ones from harbor freight), aspirin, energy bars, and water purification pills are all cheap, light, and easy items to carry and will be in high demand by many after the initial chaos. Portable shelters if the situation lasts a while since people would maybe be mobile going from place to place to seek greener pastures.
MrWirelesscaller 1 month ago
golds not out of reach for even a bum. you can buy gold by the grain for like $4 too $10 dollars. most in the middle class area can buy grams of gold to 1 once coins. Nickels yes u.s. Nickels are 25% Nickel and 75% copper worth 20.3% premium over its face value. salt too will worth money as you need 15g a day too live and huge need to preserve food after shtf idea.
starknight97 1 month ago
Good alternative ideas. I too agree that Lead is a good idea. Not a lot because of its weight and toxicity, but a little diversity never hurt anyone when it comes to precious metals. I'm storing silver, brass, copper, lead, and a very small amount of gold. I'd like to figure an affordable way to store taconite iron pellets for future forging.
jrdirtjumper 1 month ago
You forgot LEAD! It will be very important!
arkons1961 1 month ago
Hey boss, I appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video, but I think that it is a little off the mark. Being able to have aluminum ingots for 'when people start rebuilding civilization' is nice, but the key thing is making it that far. I don't honestly think aluminum bars will have value until the majority of people have made it past subsitance living.. trying to trade an aluminum bar for an MRE for a year or two after SHTF is a no-go. Interested in seeing the furnace stuff
MoralDelima 1 month ago
I keep hearing people saying one should have a store of silver coins (and maybe some gold coins), but not everybody can afford to buy & store a significant quantity. MREs, retort pouches of food, wind/waterproof matches, flints and strikers, cigarettes (?), amongst possible others, could all be used in bartering situations. A silver coin is all very nice, but bartering will often benefit both parties if each person has something the other wants. A person can use skills or crafts as bartering.
markanthonyquested 1 month ago
Great barter items video. Don’t forget your labor as the most valuable currency you have to offer… If it’s skilled labor… all the better… Thanks for posting
houndsman03 2 months ago
@houndsman03 Good point thanks for commenting.
SHTFSurvivalist 2 months ago
For those who are on a very tight budget, you can get silver dimes for $2 and some change.
kentuckyprepper1792 2 months ago
that would be awesome if you made a furnace video! I really want to cast my own knives
TheRAMBOhimself 2 months ago
@TheRAMBOhimself I will be making one in the near future still gathering money and materials.
SHTFSurvivalist 2 months ago
id really like to see a video of you smelting that aluminium into some bars.
dminor214 3 months ago
@dminor214 I am working on a video of that. It is a expensive video to make so it will take a little while but I will put one out in the near future.
SHTFSurvivalist 3 months ago
@SHTFSurvivalist great vid, i gotta ask, how do you make those aluminum bars out of cans?
low72 2 months ago in playlist More videos from SHTFSurvivalist
@low72 melt the cans down in a furnace and pour the aluminum into ingot molds.
SHTFSurvivalist 2 months ago
Great videos as always! I'm wondering if a bullet casting pot would get hot enough to melt all these metals? I have a LEE lead ingot melting furnace to cast my own bullets for reloading it can reach 900 degrees with a sustained temp of about 1400...
TheTxtreeman 3 months ago
@TheTxtreeman 1600 degrees ferinheight is the minimum melting temperature of aluminum but aluminum dissipates heat rather fast so you would want it much hotter to be manageable. Copper melting temperature is around 2000 ferinheight and so is gold and silver. Another thing is for each type of metal you melt you should have a different crucible to avoid cross contamination of the metals.
SHTFSurvivalist 3 months ago
@TheTxtreeman I think most lead pots are made of cast iron and cast iron can be used as a crucible for aluminum since the melting temperature is much lower
SHTFSurvivalist 3 months ago
You can barter just about anything, but currency needs to be trustworthy. Stick to junk silver [pre 1964 American coins] Gold will be used to buy real estate. You have a hard enough time breaking a $100 bill today, how are you going to make change for a $5000 oz. of gold? I wont trust anyone with homemade ingots.
danman911 3 months ago
Great points you raise man. I would really be interested in seeing what you have for melting this stuff down. Great idea. Great video idea too man. Thanks.
SurviveToLife 3 months ago
@SurviveToLife Thanks Brother. I will try to put together the furnace videos as soon as possible.
SHTFSurvivalist 3 months ago
Badass! Looking forward to the furnance video and how to melt down metals for barter.
MrDeathstyle 3 months ago
@MrDeathstyle Thanks Bro. Hopefully I can get it up soon.
SHTFSurvivalist 3 months ago