stop fighting and accept what people are. you certainly aren't going to make someone think you're right when your saying they are such horrible things on the internet. it really makes you look foolish. it goes on from generations. people tend to be what their parents were. and that kind of loyalty won't be broken by some dude on the youtube.
Corporate subsidies that single out particular companies are the most expensive government handouts.
If a CEO asks "I need more money" when his company is doomed the government should say "fuck you" and liquidate his ass. He clearly failed his own business.
@BAMONYAMS I just finished working a year long minumum wage factory job (I'm going back to school) no less then three of my coworkers had cancer, two have heart problems and an entire department have back problems ('cause of the work) all of them rely on the Canadian Health Care System to pay for medication and physo how the HELL can YOU ignorant connie baster call my friends and coworkd lazy? they work five to six days a week every month all year for less then heads of corps work for in 1 month
@Xantheus07 During the Civil War South was also known as the Democratic South while the North was called the Republican North, The Democrats were fighting to keep slavery the Republicans fought for free slaves Infact Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
Lincon fought primarily to preserve the Union. Besides that, are you trying to imply that the modern Republican party is the same as that of the 1860s?
@LunaticSumo Actually, yes they are/were. People try to say there was a huge shift in party politics, but there really wasn't. We still believe in the same ideas we always have, and I know far more racist democrats than republicans. It is not a party thing.
@LunaticSumo And that's why I hate political party names. They are semantically meaningless and are a blindfold to ignorant voters. I respect people who support different solutions based on the current political climate and don't assume the same set of solutions works all the time.
@spiderpig85 ??? I'm sorry but you're incorrect. The Democrats had at one time a strong conservative contingent. Over time the bolshevik faction took over the party. So those conservatives switched to the Republican party. Remember the big shift during the 1990's?
I was pretty sure that a higher percentage of republicans voted for the Civil Rights act then Democrats, also that Johnson killed Eisenhower's first Civil Rights bill, and that JFK even voted against it, so this argument is inconsistent with history
@monokhem Yours is a truly sad, sick perspective. Those rights that you consider to be granted by government are in fact yours already. All government can give you is restrictions on "...certain inalienable rights". And, just try to take from me while I sleep: I have the right to bear arms and I'll rock your world. You have it backwards you see, government works for ME in this country. We'd all be better off if more people (sheep) would realize that and quit cowering to an oppressive government.
I never said any rights were granted by the government. A drill doesn't grant me a hole either.
Your view is childish. You're going to rock my world my ass. That's a fools notion of superiority at work. The people stealing from you would have guns too. Without government there is no ownership, only possession, and that can change anytime.
@TheOldGrady If you had been paying attention you would have noticed that I find the notion of the government giving something foolish because it is a tool, but If these are the only terms you understand, here's the easy answere to your pointless game: Law.
@monokhem Apologies; I see I was a little slow in catching your vague "government as a tool" analogy. It seems we've been saying the same thing. But, to be clear, my point was that government, i.e., the people running it, can't give anyone anything, even law, without a means to finance. And for that they must take it from someone who's NOT running it. Our "tool" has evolved into an ugly, oppressive TAKER. I thought that would have been obvious. Cheers.
@TheOldGrady And my point was that the government doesn't give anybody anything. It is a tool by which we allocate our collective resources, which is what they truely are. When rich people run the country like everything is private property and that taxes used toward the public good are tantamount to theft, they wind up being murdered in bloody revolutions. Better to just pay for the poor people's healthcare. Ask the French monarchy.
@monokhem No, I don't think that was your point at all. I think your point was to try to convince someone that government is a good and necessary thing. I'll go along with the necessary, but "good" is not something that government has been for a very long time in this country. And that "tool" that you're so proud of doesn't produce anything at all, so it still can't give anything without first taking it. Our collective resources? Go away you filthy socialist bastard, this ain't France.
@TheOldGrady As childish as your insults and obstinance is your world view is even more childish. The government doesn't ake anything from you. Taxes are not extortion. They are a bill for services rendered. That is the real world. If you don't like it move.
The government is the tool by which we created the court system, the highwy system, indoor plumbing, the electric grid, the hoover dam, the apollo program, the International space station, the nuclear bomb, The internet, broadcast TV...
@monokhem A nice little list of things that were accomplished by the private sector. Some of those things were FINANCED by the government, but they did so with tax revenue that was taken from the working public. They can't spend it if they don't take it. Services rendered? The most generous research data show that ALL services provided by the federal government could be provided by the private sector at 61% of the cost. You must be a government employee, huh? Probably union, too. Vomit.
@monokhem Oh my. You really got me with that one. Now I get it: I fail because you're a brainwashed idiot who's in denial about the sad state of his precious government. And, the very simple, the only possible, correct answer to the question that started this whole exchange: "Absolutely Nothing"
@BAMONYAMS you are so ignorant. You and Xjigsaw66. Just because people get government money doesnt make them a leech or a lazy bum. Did you ever consider that unemployment is around 9%? I have friends with college degrees in engineering that can find jobs, are they lazy? If someone was born into poverty and they have children to care for you dont feel obliged to help them? You say you are for family values. Tell me what value that teaches. They were not born to rich parents.
@CurryCobra The fact that someone has a degree doesn't make them productive or industrious or even worthy; lame analogy. Furthermore, if I DO "feel obliged" to help someone I have no right to take your money to do it. You're talking about forcing someone to contribute to the "charity" of your choice when you insist on taking tax dollars for ANY social cause that you may support. Why is that so hard to understand?
hmmm i never knew democrats like to help people i thought they just wanted everyone to hand over all there money to big goverment and create a communist system. geez was i ever wrong
It's morons like them who make the party system look stupid, and the voters look ignorant. Iove how the Democrat automatically shoots the civil right bs. Fuck you guys, you obviously don't know jack shit about TRUE US history, just the liberal bull they feed you in school. I'm a Libertarian, or until they abolish parties all together.
@monokhem Well, let's see: The fruit of his labor, his self respect, his good name, the respect of his community and family. Then there are the more tangible assets such as anything that he attains through honest commerce and exchange. Then there are those things that he might create such as his art or his literature, his music, etc. He might build a boat, or grow corn, or paint a sunset. Those things are his, and none of them by the grace of a government that would forcibly take them from him.
@TheOldGrady No way. You can't own the fruits of your labor or any other physical thing without government. people will run of with it while you are sleeping. You don't really own respect, or good names. You can't really have commerce without government either. Without intellectual property rights you can't own art or literature. You have no idea what government does for you.
FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOU REPUBLICAN PIECES OF SHIT
Um no Democrats are 100times wrost then Republican's. For one they say they will do this and that and if they do what they promis its just costing Tax payers more money. If logic didn't hit them in the head that if they tax the RICH they TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS too. the Rich make jobs and they get taxed more the more jobs loss. and the Healthcare plan they made was their death worant when they passed it.
@HunterX109 It wouldn't cost more money to the tax payers if the Republicans stop extending the tax cuts for the rich which is costing the government money because the rich is only paying 17% compared to 30% for the middle class. Haha, what? No. People don't lose jobs because of the Rich is taxed. They lose it, because Big Companies know that they can make more money by sending those same jobs to other countries where they can make more money by paying the workers less.
Actually Republicans passed every big form of legislation related to civil rights. And Medicare is an open wound just like Welfare. It's bleeding profusely and we need to clean it and pack it. No side is better.
The kind of better than let's people run their own lives, and let's them assume responsibility for their lives. The kind of better that doesn't steal from one person to give to another person by way of a bureaucracy that wastes most of what was stolen in the process.
The kind of better that doesn't do these things to appease UNIONS and other Democrat lobbyists.
We must support the party that put slavery into the constitution, fought to keep slavery in the US before the Civil War, cheered for the Dred Scott decision, Fought for Slavery through the Civil War, Founded the KKK, Wrote the Jim Crow laws, Set up the Poll Tax. All Democrat senators voted against the civil rights laws, setup a system of welfare that destroyed the black family. Spied on MLK and had him shot and regularly use race to beat down their opponents
@cupera1 you're an idiot. The dems in those days are now republicans. The parties then have nothing in common with the parties now. When civil rights were established the republicans were not fighting for them. Get a clue and stop reading internet letters perporting to tell the truth.
@Buzzramjet Sure the Democrats have changed . NOT!!! Like "get my coffee " Clinton. Or " Negro dialect" Reid. Or KKK Byrd that recruited extensive in the US Senate for decades for the KKK . You can talk to Kenneth Gladney that was put in a wheel chair by Obams Purple Shirts and convice him that the Dems have changed.
guys, you really need to stop looking at "republican-democrat" thats what idiots do now-a-days . Read up on what the president-elect has done, or voted for in the past. You have all the knowledge you need at your fingertips, and i know you can find it, otherwise you wouldn't be reading this.
Probably better in the sense that he doesn't waste money on things perceived to help people that just bring the country into a rut that pulls the economy and, in turn, every persons wealth down... maybe.
If you actually believed this you have had a sip of koolaid recently. When was the last time a Democrat politician made your life better? They are just as responsible to their campaign contributors as the Republicans. If they had advertising space on their jackets they would have to wear Nascar type jumpsuits.
The Republican Party isnt what they say they are the republicans are for the rich and unjust if you aren't considered rich and you believe in their lies i certainly feel sorry for you but your simply confused and on the wrong side republicans threaten your job, your everyday life and they want you to live in misery and sufferiing.
@TheRagev3 You're only 18 and are undoubtedly a victim of government school propaganda, so I don't expect you to understand. Think about what you say. Do you REALLY in your heart believe a Republican wants misery and suffering? Republicans want lower taxes, and the miserable and suffering would require taxes to go up for their treatment. Republicans and Democrats pretty much all want a good life, clean air for all, prosperity, etc, but the disagreement is how to get these things.
@Kaniela6759 i dont listen to any propaganda its pretty clear what the republicans want and what they've done over the past 5 years take winsconsin for example they want to cut unions and take away jobs listen to the tapes of the govenor.
@TheRagev3 If you have been in government/public schools, then you HAVE been subject to propaganda.Dems have done nothing for the groups they claim to love: the blacks, the gays, etc. Johnson's 1960s war on poverty has done nothing, and we have just as many poor people as then. As for Wis, AFL-CIO founder himself, George Meany, was AGAINST collective bargaining for public workers. It's the union thug mentality....the robbing of public treasures...that has gotten Wis in the bind that it's in.
@Kaniela6759 Union thug mentality lol very funny mr kaniel you would like to think like it was like that but the truth is the unions are the teachers the police and the firemen that education and help your community placing miss informed facts about the past doesnt win you any debate mr kaniel niether does it matter if anything is propaganda here its what your typing here haha. Im sorry your not buying me here you sound like a conservative if i understand correctly?
@TheRagev3 Is it right to take money from the private sector (and from union dues), pay off congressmen who will then give these union thugs sweetheart deals? Aside from Islamic terrorists (yes "Islamic"), the public teacher unions are the most dangerous to the US.We can recover from a horrible Islamic terrorist attack, but generations are poisoned from teacher unions.Never was about the kids only the unions.Suffering from the cancer of liberalism,I finally got the treatment and am recovering.
@Kaniela6759 sweetheart deals? you mean to pay them to do there jobs to take care and educate your children? to say that they are any danger to the us well thats not true the unions have families too and they have to care for them and when a crazy Republican Govenor is foolishy laying people off of work to get the attention of the republican party and corporate rich people well then you have a problem on your hands because you know what comes next after the unions are gone? the private sector.
@TheRagev3 Sigh....so young and so delusional. I, too, was that way. I see myself in you. I, too, believed the same as you say now. So many years I wasted being misinformed by the left media. Neither of us will change the other. I have been where you are now, but you've never seen my side. I am an educator, so I understand what you mean by unfair pay. I'm just saying Unions aren't the answer. Unions DO NOT have kids' interests in mind. They care ONLY about themselves. I wish you the best.
Nuetral people are the real winners here plus I can't decide one has Nixon but the K.K.K. were apart of it the other had honest aib but doesn't give sarah palindrome as much power as the other
he is better because democrats dont need to make legislation to pass a law that makes u have health insurance. Rights, Democrats, only if u can drop us into a deficit and stop me from going back to work on my rigg
LMAO considering the fact that the KKK were democrats kinda outrules you being a better civil rights party, aswell as the fact that Aberaham Lincoln, the 1st Republican president is the one who freed the slaves, and is known as our greatest president of America. and your newest addition to the white house, is sucking our country dry. America has pennies to its name, and he just keeps spending more, to promote big buisness and medical car. OH AND GUESS WHAT! YOUR OBAMACARE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
It's great that we have a country that has two parties that can actually both take office and high position and are not ruled by one or the other. Although we are America and should remain free and not become a socialist country.
Since democrats are stupid I rather be a stupid republican. The more money i make the move I want to keep it. Democrats don't touch my money. I want to use my money my way. Not give it to losers who cannot work hard for their money.
hmmm, i dont like a lot of republicans but democrats seem to be very smug and act like they know more about what you need than you do so i guess ill be an independent
Democrat and Republicans need to find a balance in their philosophies. Using ideas from both parties would benefit the US. But we knwo that would never happen, both parties are so stubborn and seems liek the Rpublicans just want to see the Democrats fail so they can win the next election.
HI, I'm a republican and I'm a democrat. We basically do the same shit. I like Special Interest, I like Special Interest. I like starting foreign wars, illegal wire tapping, and torture camps, and I like maintaining foreign wars, illegal wire tapping, and torture camps. I like huge entitelment spending, and I like huge entitlement spending....
I guess you could say Republican = Democrat... Who Knew?
@XJigsaw66 All poor people or "leeches" are obviously lazy slobs who need to get off their asses and none of them are handicapped, sick, looking for work, or children. Damn kids should be back in the coal mines like in the good old days!
@squamish4244 Telling lazy people to stop being lazy isn't gonna work. Poor, unhappy lazy people are seeds to becoming criminals so we can't remove entitlements cold turkey unless you find a suitable replacement. I'd rather have a job conscription program- mandatory paid work and character development- for lazy people. Didn't anyone stop and think to look to Japan for inspiration?
@XJigsaw66 Government handouts? You can't make a living off of government handouts. And just so you know, I thumbs-up'd this video even though me and my whole family are working upper middle-class citizens and taxpayers. Do yourself a favor, and stop saying that crap about handouts.
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Read a history book dude. The Republicans started as the progressive party and between 1913 and 1965 the parties switched poles. Teddy Roosevelt (R) was a progressive. He busted trusts, taxed large inheritance, did some of the first environmental legislation (some of it back door w/o congress). It was the Civil Rights bill in the 60's that finally flipped the parties and every Southern Democrat flipped Republican.
@IntegralBodyAwarenes Actually it was the Republicans in congress that passed the civil rights bills in the Johnson administration. Perhaps you should read up on the history of the civil rights movement. Remember that the Republicans granted rights the Democrats (who never wanted blacks to vote in the first place) figured well if we have to let them we might as well bribe them to vote Democrat with entitlements which are basically handouts that belittle African Americans. Lol just saying.
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Ya but back then Democrats were considered "conservative" and Repubilcans were considered "liberal" the parties flipped later....Abraham Lincoln was a republican who freed the slaves, but he was still liberal
Democrats better at civil right? Wasn't it the Republicans that freed the slaves, and passed all the laws giving them rights...not to mention Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman were liked by the KKK. Wilson even watched the movie Birth of a Nation (Racist movie) in the white house... just saying.
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Read a history book dude. The Republicans started as the progressive party and between 1913 and 1965 the parties switched poles. Teddy Roosevelt (R) was a progressive. He busted trusts, taxed large inheritance, did some of the first environmental legislation (some of it back door w/o congress). It was the Civil Rights bill in the 60's that finally flipped the parties and every Southern Democrat flipped Republican.
This is a load of bullshit. Democrats ARE Wall Street. Actually read legislation and listen to the elitist CEO's that go on TV. Hedge fund managers, what a fucking joke... Heads up folks, Warren Buffet pays 15% income taxes. No wonder he can "afford" an increase.
Wow I'm fine with Democrats being Democrats, as I myself am undecided, but to be so rude and to call yourself "better" is horrible. Seriously, earn some manners.
Democrats are bigger advocates of lower taxes for the most part. Republicans hold the middle class hostage by refusing to let a tax cut bill pass unless they include tax breaks for the top 2% also.
@AEgamesFtw And I don't care about your home, your food, or your children. Doesn't mean I have the right to take them away. Read the fucking constitution. Nowhere in there does it include anything about taxes.
@AEgamesFtw That's all irrelevant--and saying I'm the immoral exception is illogical as well as the ad-hominem attack in order to dodge my point.
You said you don't care about "some banker's 12th home or newest gold-plated ferrari;" you don't care whether or not they get taken away from the banker.
Suddenly your personal likes and dislikes have become all that 'matters,' rather than the principle behind it. If I don't care about something you have, that's no reason to forcibly take it away.
@AEgamesFtw Also, like I said, please do read the Constitution. You'll find almost nothing you support in it. If you would prefer a different Constitution, get the fuck out of this country and go to Russia or a place where you're a better fit.
@AEgamesFtw AD-HOMINEM ALERT. What's their "fair share"? Like I've been saying, that's all up to personal interpretation. I think your fair share is your house. If something doesn't work at an extreme, it won't work in moderation--check ethanol for proof of that, or just plug in a massive number into a mathematical equation and it's just what occurs on a smaller scale. Is somehow stealing a small amount more just than stealing a large amount? Answer that.
@alexanderaristotle Right, so what you're saying is that there should be no taxes. By definition, you have to be an anarchist. If you're not an anarchist then you're a hypocrite and you need to re-read your comment.
@AEgamesFtw LOL anarchists are the only people who don't believe in taxes?
Again, please read the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere once does it mention taxes, federal income tax wasn't imposed until nearly 100 years after the implementation of the Constitution. I guess, by definition, Thomas Jefferson was an anarchist.
I merely believe in untouched freedom; that you should be able to do whatever you want AS LONG AS IT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH ANOTHER'S RIGHTS. I'm a libertarian. Big difference.
@alexanderaristotle Yeah, they pretty much are. A state needs money in order to GOVERN things. In order to have a GOVERNMENT the government needs MONEY to GOVERN STUFF WITH. The only other way a state can get money is by printing all their own money which, as I hope you know, is NOT a very good idea.
@AEgamesFtw Dude, you randomly called me an idiot and moron. Point proven. As for taxes in the Constitution, have you read it yet? Keep dreaming, sir. Tell me, how much money did it take for the Founding Fathers to write the Constitution? How about for George Washington to run the US for 8 years? Oh that's right...
@alexanderaristotle What are you trying to say. That a fire department, a police department, etc, can all be run for free? It's hard to see what your point is when you keep on devoting most of your post to Ad-Hominems about whether I've read the constitution, without explaining why that is supposed to be relevant.
@AEgamesFtw My last post had 2 sentences relating to the ad-hominem. Also, I'm saying that a fire department, a police department, etc, were nowhere in the Constitution.
They should either be what they've been in the distant past--volunteer work--or private enterprise.
Again, when this country was founded it required virtually no money to fund the federal government. Now they've eaten up our economy, e.g. the post office. Maybe 70 years ago it was relevant, but who needs mail every day now?
So in your world, what exactly is the role of the government? They don't do law or public safety or anything like that. They don't have any buildings and they can't hire any employees. And the world is run by mercenaries.
@AEgamesFtw Distort things some more how don't you? Have you read Thomas Jefferson? How about Ayn Rand?
Our country was founded with two roles for the government--to provide NATIONAL defense and to break up monopolies.
And you think that our current police force isn't a bunch of mercenaries? Don't begin to kid yourself.
In all reality it would be taken up by volunteers, rather than as a career, just like what happened in the past before police officers were paid out of million $ buildings.
@alexanderaristotle Oh WOW! An Ayn Rand fan! How about living your dream by moving to the Libertarian Paradise that is Somalia? No police, tiny government, everybody does what they want.......
@alexanderaristotle Oh yeah, and you're a giant hypocrite by the way. The only person who used ad-hominems was you by claiming I was using ad-hominems. I opinionated my arguments then you claimed I was just using Ad-Hominem in order to try to devalue my arguments. A classic Ad-Hominem.
Southern DEMOCRATS were the primary party of slave owners. MLK, Harriet Tubman, Abe Lincoln, were all Republicans. Under times of democratic control the government did more things to hurt minorities than help, but they would blame it on Republicans and then do one thing that seemed huge but really weren't. Democrats freed MLK from jail, but people forget Democrats PUT him in jail as well. The Democratic party is designed to maintain its voters by opressing the system.
@santanaramostarango Yes, but with the Supreme Court ruling allowing corporations to donate unlimited funds under the cover of front groups like American Crossroads (Karl Rove), there is no transparency, and corporations can now buy elections. Note the millions coming into the Chamber of Commerce from foreign countries, even, to bring Democrats down. Why? They are for the little guy, and want to keep jobs in America. VOTE DEMOCRAT!!
No way don't vote for the major parties, theyre both bought and paid for by corporations. Vote for a third party that you agree with. We need to SAY NO to the social construct that is the two-party system.
@santanaramostarango well yeah, but you're got to pick the better of the 2 right now :/ so candidates that get money from Exxon or from PETA who's worst?
Again, I do not hold it against Lincoln. Comparing a figure of the 19th Century to the 21st century is distorting facts without inserting parity.
But in our modern terms, he was indeed a racist. And p.s. white nationalism is racism. Just ask Hitler.
He was considered by the South to be a disgrace to the white race, along with any other Radical Republican. Klansmen lynched hundreds of them, along with freed slaves.
p.s white nationalism is racism to YOU because you have no idea what it is.
White nationalism is the belief that white people have cultures and an identity that must be preserved by building a nation that protects all of that or multiple nations.
The only people against that are those who are racists themselves, those that wish harm and destruction towards white people and European cultures.
Hitler practiced national socialism, NOT white nationalism.
I've honestly never seen anyone say a black person has the potential to become a genius and a white person is trash. I truly have never ever ever ever seen that.
Coming from a dominantly Asian part of California, I've seen just a joking racialist pride among Asians about our supposed intelligence and obsession over grades and blah blah.
But never have I seen anyone who really said whites were worthless, and most certainly not from a black person or in comparison to one.
I am talking about elitist white people saying that any white person who doesn't get a certain grade or have a certain IQ is worthless, while telling people that blacks could all be smarter if they weren't supposedly being held down.
When we call people like Obama smart and call Bush dumb when they sound the same without a teleprompter and practice some of the same failed policies, we know there is a double standard and it isn't just a political one.
And example of this is... what? I have never really heard anyone say, "You can get into a good college and job without working because you're black." I'd laugh at that, to be honest. Everyone knows that's blatantly false.
See, it's the whole "racial equalizer" concept, which I don't support, but most people accept.
And Obama is smarter than Bush because his policies are superior. And look up Republican Retreat Obama. He used no teleprompter in that debate.
Actually Obama has inferior policies to Bush, which is why while Bush had the power over both houses, unemployment stayed low and the debt grew at the normal rate of growth for nearly every president.
With absolute power over the govt, Obama has made poverty worse than the US has seen since my grandparents were kids and the unemployment has never truly gone down from its high levels.
If Democrats don't keep all of the current tax code there won't be a US in 5 years.
Only example of anything I heard near this black college theory is when Obama said something along the lines of, "If you're black, sure you have a higher rate of committing crime, or dropping out, but that doesn't give you the right to not try hard."
And it's not really a good thing to have low social expectations. If people call whites worthless for not doing what they think blacks can't, it is more or less the fact people set higher expectations on them because they think whites are smarter.
you also have to fucking be kidding me about never seeing discrimination against white people in the workforce when you are from frickin California.
The only people shown from California are Hispanics and blacks, even though blacks make a LOW population of California in almost every single city , there sure as hell is discrimination against whites there.
It is bad here and we are over 90% white for Christ's sake.
Blacks are more than 50% of all advertising models now dipshit.
"The only people shown from California are Hispanics and blacks"
Are you smoking our Californian pot or something? That's new.
See, Hispanics make up 38.7% of the population or so of California. So if they are represented well, don't be surprised. And I don't know what you mean by "shown".
P.S. I got a statistic. 26% of models are non-whites in America. 26%. This is consistent with 25% of Americans being non-white.
and yet idiot, that 26% is constantly complained about. Instead of fixing the mass overrepresentation of minorities everywhere, the only truly representative sectors of society are forced to be more 'diverse'.
The rest of the country's institutions are far more than 25 or 26%.
I am talking about advertising models, where blacks are far more than 25% by themselves(with 'Hispanics' actually being non existent).
Again, it's not my concern how models are racially distributed. And that 50% statistic is bullshit, so the whole basis of your argument just crashed down on you.
Obama's recession was inherited from Bush, you fool. How long does it take you to get that through your skull? 800000 jobs were being lost a month by December of 2008! Bush's (weak job creation, btw. 3 mill compared to 21 mill under Clinton)
growth was stimulated by unsustainable long-term deficit spending.
I work in retail idiot, my statistics are either spot on or watered down from reality when it comes to things in retail to make it believable for ignorant people like you.
This video is based on the false premise that there is a distinction between the two entrenched corporate political groups. Both parties are two sides of the same coin. The only difference is what they say in public. The ideology is just propaganda to sell the illusion that the voter can make a difference.
Has anyone noticed that jota4change always has something degrading in his comments. Just like a democrat to have to bring people down to make themselves feel better.
@LastElement This
Jean0987654321 3 weeks ago
Both sides are just as fucking stupid. we had a clown before, and we have one now
LastElement 3 months ago 11
stop fighting and accept what people are. you certainly aren't going to make someone think you're right when your saying they are such horrible things on the internet. it really makes you look foolish. it goes on from generations. people tend to be what their parents were. and that kind of loyalty won't be broken by some dude on the youtube.
100198videos 3 months ago
democrats sucks at healthcare...
morgan6196 4 months ago
@morgan6196 Democrats are blocked in every vote by Republicans when they try to fix the shit healthcare system.
spiderpig85 4 months ago
@spiderpig85 The government shouldn't be involved in it at all in the first place.
ss2thepenney 1 month ago
Corporate subsidies that single out particular companies are the most expensive government handouts.
If a CEO asks "I need more money" when his company is doomed the government should say "fuck you" and liquidate his ass. He clearly failed his own business.
ccricers 5 months ago
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ccricers 5 months ago
@BAMONYAMS I just finished working a year long minumum wage factory job (I'm going back to school) no less then three of my coworkers had cancer, two have heart problems and an entire department have back problems ('cause of the work) all of them rely on the Canadian Health Care System to pay for medication and physo how the HELL can YOU ignorant connie baster call my friends and coworkd lazy? they work five to six days a week every month all year for less then heads of corps work for in 1 month
Tamashi88 5 months ago
Lol yeah Democrats fighting for the people the same way they fought to free the slave.
Xantheus07 5 months ago
@Xantheus07 During the Civil War South was also known as the Democratic South while the North was called the Republican North, The Democrats were fighting to keep slavery the Republicans fought for free slaves Infact Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
AGreasedUpFatty 5 months ago
@AGreasedUpFatty i guess i failed at being sarcastic.
Xantheus07 5 months ago
@AGreasedUpFatty
Lincon fought primarily to preserve the Union. Besides that, are you trying to imply that the modern Republican party is the same as that of the 1860s?
ANZUS777 2 weeks ago
@BAMONYAMS Exactly. You help the people that don't need help, and don't help the people that need it. You said it yourself.
123ArcticIce321 6 months ago
Just saying, Republicans had a 20% greater support for the 1964 civil rights act. 60% of democrats supported it, 80% of republicans did also.
griffithomi 6 months ago
@griffithomi in '64 republicans weren't like they are now.
LunaticSumo 6 months ago
@LunaticSumo Actually, yes they are/were. People try to say there was a huge shift in party politics, but there really wasn't. We still believe in the same ideas we always have, and I know far more racist democrats than republicans. It is not a party thing.
griffithomi 6 months ago
@griffithomi Like Jesse Helms?
squamish4244 5 months ago
@LunaticSumo And that's why I hate political party names. They are semantically meaningless and are a blindfold to ignorant voters. I respect people who support different solutions based on the current political climate and don't assume the same set of solutions works all the time.
ccricers 5 months ago
@LunaticSumo Yeah they were a lot nastier.
squamish4244 5 months ago
For the record: Integration was accomplished by Eisenhower & The EPA and Affirmative Action was established by Richard Nixon.
tikiedit 6 months ago 4
@tikiedit affirmative action isn't very great. (i'm black) i'm not racist.. just affirmative action in itself is a form of racism.
LunaticSumo 6 months ago
@tikiedit In the late 60's Republicans flipped sides. What you see today is not the way it always was, nor is supposed to be.
spiderpig85 4 months ago
@spiderpig85 ??? I'm sorry but you're incorrect. The Democrats had at one time a strong conservative contingent. Over time the bolshevik faction took over the party. So those conservatives switched to the Republican party. Remember the big shift during the 1990's?
tikiedit 4 months ago
@tikiedit
I think you mean the '60s when the Dixiecrats left the Dems for the Republicans.
ANZUS777 2 weeks ago
@tikiedit A pretty sweeping generalization me thinks, with inaccuracies to be sure.
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MrAlcoholic11 6 months ago
The kind of better that doesnt let abortions happen and believe and do everything through God type of better..democrats, you make me sick!
jsketchizzle9 6 months ago
I was pretty sure that a higher percentage of republicans voted for the Civil Rights act then Democrats, also that Johnson killed Eisenhower's first Civil Rights bill, and that JFK even voted against it, so this argument is inconsistent with history
Redeye1524 7 months ago
I like Apples products, although expensive, but they get job done with efficiency.
koenigsegg1000 7 months ago
Other than getting your facts completely wrong - well done!
ToddAldrich 7 months ago
@BAMONYAMS that was a joke right?
bbphnix 7 months ago
@monokhem Yours is a truly sad, sick perspective. Those rights that you consider to be granted by government are in fact yours already. All government can give you is restrictions on "...certain inalienable rights". And, just try to take from me while I sleep: I have the right to bear arms and I'll rock your world. You have it backwards you see, government works for ME in this country. We'd all be better off if more people (sheep) would realize that and quit cowering to an oppressive government.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
I never said any rights were granted by the government. A drill doesn't grant me a hole either.
Your view is childish. You're going to rock my world my ass. That's a fools notion of superiority at work. The people stealing from you would have guns too. Without government there is no ownership, only possession, and that can change anytime.
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem Answer my original question, fool, or shut up.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@TheOldGrady If you had been paying attention you would have noticed that I find the notion of the government giving something foolish because it is a tool, but If these are the only terms you understand, here's the easy answere to your pointless game: Law.
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem Apologies; I see I was a little slow in catching your vague "government as a tool" analogy. It seems we've been saying the same thing. But, to be clear, my point was that government, i.e., the people running it, can't give anyone anything, even law, without a means to finance. And for that they must take it from someone who's NOT running it. Our "tool" has evolved into an ugly, oppressive TAKER. I thought that would have been obvious. Cheers.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@TheOldGrady And my point was that the government doesn't give anybody anything. It is a tool by which we allocate our collective resources, which is what they truely are. When rich people run the country like everything is private property and that taxes used toward the public good are tantamount to theft, they wind up being murdered in bloody revolutions. Better to just pay for the poor people's healthcare. Ask the French monarchy.
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem No, I don't think that was your point at all. I think your point was to try to convince someone that government is a good and necessary thing. I'll go along with the necessary, but "good" is not something that government has been for a very long time in this country. And that "tool" that you're so proud of doesn't produce anything at all, so it still can't give anything without first taking it. Our collective resources? Go away you filthy socialist bastard, this ain't France.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@TheOldGrady As childish as your insults and obstinance is your world view is even more childish. The government doesn't ake anything from you. Taxes are not extortion. They are a bill for services rendered. That is the real world. If you don't like it move.
The government is the tool by which we created the court system, the highwy system, indoor plumbing, the electric grid, the hoover dam, the apollo program, the International space station, the nuclear bomb, The internet, broadcast TV...
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem A nice little list of things that were accomplished by the private sector. Some of those things were FINANCED by the government, but they did so with tax revenue that was taken from the working public. They can't spend it if they don't take it. Services rendered? The most generous research data show that ALL services provided by the federal government could be provided by the private sector at 61% of the cost. You must be a government employee, huh? Probably union, too. Vomit.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@TheOldGrady And that is why you fail.
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem Oh my. You really got me with that one. Now I get it: I fail because you're a brainwashed idiot who's in denial about the sad state of his precious government. And, the very simple, the only possible, correct answer to the question that started this whole exchange: "Absolutely Nothing"
And that is why you fail.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
I actually agree that PC would be Republican and Mac would be Democrat. I always liked PC more than Mac anyway...
dunkelfier 7 months ago
@BAMONYAMS you are so ignorant. You and Xjigsaw66. Just because people get government money doesnt make them a leech or a lazy bum. Did you ever consider that unemployment is around 9%? I have friends with college degrees in engineering that can find jobs, are they lazy? If someone was born into poverty and they have children to care for you dont feel obliged to help them? You say you are for family values. Tell me what value that teaches. They were not born to rich parents.
CurryCobra 8 months ago
@CurryCobra The fact that someone has a degree doesn't make them productive or industrious or even worthy; lame analogy. Furthermore, if I DO "feel obliged" to help someone I have no right to take your money to do it. You're talking about forcing someone to contribute to the "charity" of your choice when you insist on taking tax dollars for ANY social cause that you may support. Why is that so hard to understand?
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@BAMONYAMS We help people to help themselves.
SpadaccinoLuciano 8 months ago
hmmm i never knew democrats like to help people i thought they just wanted everyone to hand over all there money to big goverment and create a communist system. geez was i ever wrong
MrEnignok 8 months ago
Democracy: It's like two wolves and a sheep fighting over what to have for dinner.
larewwedxhhh19 8 months ago
If I recall, it was Republicans that broke a Democratic filibuster on the Civil Rights Act. Funny how that works...
nikolai0114 9 months ago
Democrats are just right wingers in disguise. Republicans are outright fascists.
M-26-7 or bust
Thekillerrrsss 9 months ago
It's morons like them who make the party system look stupid, and the voters look ignorant. Iove how the Democrat automatically shoots the civil right bs. Fuck you guys, you obviously don't know jack shit about TRUE US history, just the liberal bull they feed you in school. I'm a Libertarian, or until they abolish parties all together.
xXRocker91Xx 9 months ago
What can government give to one man that it doesn't first take from another?
TheOldGrady 9 months ago
@TheOldGrady what can a man own without a government?
monokhem 7 months ago
@monokhem Well, let's see: The fruit of his labor, his self respect, his good name, the respect of his community and family. Then there are the more tangible assets such as anything that he attains through honest commerce and exchange. Then there are those things that he might create such as his art or his literature, his music, etc. He might build a boat, or grow corn, or paint a sunset. Those things are his, and none of them by the grace of a government that would forcibly take them from him.
TheOldGrady 7 months ago
@TheOldGrady No way. You can't own the fruits of your labor or any other physical thing without government. people will run of with it while you are sleeping. You don't really own respect, or good names. You can't really have commerce without government either. Without intellectual property rights you can't own art or literature. You have no idea what government does for you.
monokhem 7 months ago
Ron Paul, 2012
shadmanahmed123 9 months ago
god they are both corrupt, Ron Paul, or you know any fiscal conservative
toberses11 9 months ago
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beesleeper 9 months ago
Um no Democrats are 100times wrost then Republican's. For one they say they will do this and that and if they do what they promis its just costing Tax payers more money. If logic didn't hit them in the head that if they tax the RICH they TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS too. the Rich make jobs and they get taxed more the more jobs loss. and the Healthcare plan they made was their death worant when they passed it.
HunterX109 9 months ago
@HunterX109 It wouldn't cost more money to the tax payers if the Republicans stop extending the tax cuts for the rich which is costing the government money because the rich is only paying 17% compared to 30% for the middle class. Haha, what? No. People don't lose jobs because of the Rich is taxed. They lose it, because Big Companies know that they can make more money by sending those same jobs to other countries where they can make more money by paying the workers less.
visini14 9 months ago
Actually Republicans passed every big form of legislation related to civil rights. And Medicare is an open wound just like Welfare. It's bleeding profusely and we need to clean it and pack it. No side is better.
TheAffrontedAmerican 10 months ago
The kind of better than let's people run their own lives, and let's them assume responsibility for their lives. The kind of better that doesn't steal from one person to give to another person by way of a bureaucracy that wastes most of what was stolen in the process.
The kind of better that doesn't do these things to appease UNIONS and other Democrat lobbyists.
Hiraghm 10 months ago
Democrats suck, but they're infinitely better than Republitards.
TheoreticChaos 10 months ago
Wow....Idiots
c130dave1 10 months ago
We must support the party that put slavery into the constitution, fought to keep slavery in the US before the Civil War, cheered for the Dred Scott decision, Fought for Slavery through the Civil War, Founded the KKK, Wrote the Jim Crow laws, Set up the Poll Tax. All Democrat senators voted against the civil rights laws, setup a system of welfare that destroyed the black family. Spied on MLK and had him shot and regularly use race to beat down their opponents
cupera1 10 months ago
@cupera1 you're an idiot. The dems in those days are now republicans. The parties then have nothing in common with the parties now. When civil rights were established the republicans were not fighting for them. Get a clue and stop reading internet letters perporting to tell the truth.
Buzzramjet 9 months ago
@Buzzramjet Sure the Democrats have changed . NOT!!! Like "get my coffee " Clinton. Or " Negro dialect" Reid. Or KKK Byrd that recruited extensive in the US Senate for decades for the KKK . You can talk to Kenneth Gladney that was put in a wheel chair by Obams Purple Shirts and convice him that the Dems have changed.
cupera1 9 months ago
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guys, you really need to stop looking at "republican-democrat" thats what idiots do now-a-days . Read up on what the president-elect has done, or voted for in the past. You have all the knowledge you need at your fingertips, and i know you can find it, otherwise you wouldn't be reading this.
Ravalat 10 months ago
Probably better in the sense that he doesn't waste money on things perceived to help people that just bring the country into a rut that pulls the economy and, in turn, every persons wealth down... maybe.
TMullen8 10 months ago
If you actually believed this you have had a sip of koolaid recently. When was the last time a Democrat politician made your life better? They are just as responsible to their campaign contributors as the Republicans. If they had advertising space on their jackets they would have to wear Nascar type jumpsuits.
gat0rbball 11 months ago
The Republican Party isnt what they say they are the republicans are for the rich and unjust if you aren't considered rich and you believe in their lies i certainly feel sorry for you but your simply confused and on the wrong side republicans threaten your job, your everyday life and they want you to live in misery and sufferiing.
TheRagev3 11 months ago
@TheRagev3 You're only 18 and are undoubtedly a victim of government school propaganda, so I don't expect you to understand. Think about what you say. Do you REALLY in your heart believe a Republican wants misery and suffering? Republicans want lower taxes, and the miserable and suffering would require taxes to go up for their treatment. Republicans and Democrats pretty much all want a good life, clean air for all, prosperity, etc, but the disagreement is how to get these things.
Kaniela6759 11 months ago
@Kaniela6759 i dont listen to any propaganda its pretty clear what the republicans want and what they've done over the past 5 years take winsconsin for example they want to cut unions and take away jobs listen to the tapes of the govenor.
TheRagev3 11 months ago
@TheRagev3 If you have been in government/public schools, then you HAVE been subject to propaganda.Dems have done nothing for the groups they claim to love: the blacks, the gays, etc. Johnson's 1960s war on poverty has done nothing, and we have just as many poor people as then. As for Wis, AFL-CIO founder himself, George Meany, was AGAINST collective bargaining for public workers. It's the union thug mentality....the robbing of public treasures...that has gotten Wis in the bind that it's in.
Kaniela6759 11 months ago
@Kaniela6759 Union thug mentality lol very funny mr kaniel you would like to think like it was like that but the truth is the unions are the teachers the police and the firemen that education and help your community placing miss informed facts about the past doesnt win you any debate mr kaniel niether does it matter if anything is propaganda here its what your typing here haha. Im sorry your not buying me here you sound like a conservative if i understand correctly?
TheRagev3 11 months ago
@TheRagev3 Is it right to take money from the private sector (and from union dues), pay off congressmen who will then give these union thugs sweetheart deals? Aside from Islamic terrorists (yes "Islamic"), the public teacher unions are the most dangerous to the US.We can recover from a horrible Islamic terrorist attack, but generations are poisoned from teacher unions.Never was about the kids only the unions.Suffering from the cancer of liberalism,I finally got the treatment and am recovering.
Kaniela6759 11 months ago
@Kaniela6759 sweetheart deals? you mean to pay them to do there jobs to take care and educate your children? to say that they are any danger to the us well thats not true the unions have families too and they have to care for them and when a crazy Republican Govenor is foolishy laying people off of work to get the attention of the republican party and corporate rich people well then you have a problem on your hands because you know what comes next after the unions are gone? the private sector.
TheRagev3 11 months ago
@TheRagev3 Sigh....so young and so delusional. I, too, was that way. I see myself in you. I, too, believed the same as you say now. So many years I wasted being misinformed by the left media. Neither of us will change the other. I have been where you are now, but you've never seen my side. I am an educator, so I understand what you mean by unfair pay. I'm just saying Unions aren't the answer. Unions DO NOT have kids' interests in mind. They care ONLY about themselves. I wish you the best.
Kaniela6759 11 months ago
Nuetral people are the real winners here plus I can't decide one has Nixon but the K.K.K. were apart of it the other had honest aib but doesn't give sarah palindrome as much power as the other
R2pyro 11 months ago
he is better because democrats dont need to make legislation to pass a law that makes u have health insurance. Rights, Democrats, only if u can drop us into a deficit and stop me from going back to work on my rigg
richmcc76 11 months ago
Americans are tools... plain and simple
hempartist420 11 months ago
LMAO considering the fact that the KKK were democrats kinda outrules you being a better civil rights party, aswell as the fact that Aberaham Lincoln, the 1st Republican president is the one who freed the slaves, and is known as our greatest president of America. and your newest addition to the white house, is sucking our country dry. America has pennies to its name, and he just keeps spending more, to promote big buisness and medical car. OH AND GUESS WHAT! YOUR OBAMACARE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
phsycicchild24 1 year ago
@phsycicchild24 the parties switched sides. everything republican now, was democrat then. and vice versa.
Evan30Werts 11 months ago
@Evan30Werts they've switched many times. more then once.
phsycicchild24 11 months ago
It's great that we have a country that has two parties that can actually both take office and high position and are not ruled by one or the other. Although we are America and should remain free and not become a socialist country.
xLouDNoiSeSx 1 year ago
lol!! obama has his own lobyists,you guys are dumb lmao
TheBusinessisgood 1 year ago
As long as the parties stand, we cannot get anything good to happen in America.
Thefunnydogstudios 1 year ago
Since democrats are stupid I rather be a stupid republican. The more money i make the move I want to keep it. Democrats don't touch my money. I want to use my money my way. Not give it to losers who cannot work hard for their money.
ExpressingThoughts 1 year ago
@ExpressingThoughts Judging by that comment I doubt you'd qualify for the tax hike.
1019079 1 year ago
hmmm, i dont like a lot of republicans but democrats seem to be very smug and act like they know more about what you need than you do so i guess ill be an independent
wootfortoot 1 year ago
As an American I find it very patriotic to donate 63% of my salary to help that fat ass down the street without a job.
Coondog3607 1 year ago
Oh republicans! you so fat, stupid, and sweaty.
del3226 1 year ago
social policy is easy when you suck at it
TheMiamifuentes 1 year ago
Democrat and Republicans need to find a balance in their philosophies. Using ideas from both parties would benefit the US. But we knwo that would never happen, both parties are so stubborn and seems liek the Rpublicans just want to see the Democrats fail so they can win the next election.
wtong89 1 year ago
lmao a more accurate representation would be:
HI, I'm a republican and I'm a democrat. We basically do the same shit. I like Special Interest, I like Special Interest. I like starting foreign wars, illegal wire tapping, and torture camps, and I like maintaining foreign wars, illegal wire tapping, and torture camps. I like huge entitelment spending, and I like huge entitlement spending....
I guess you could say Republican = Democrat... Who Knew?
JAROSLAVAGINA 1 year ago
lol It's funny 'cause it's not true!
Donnievil 1 year ago
618 people leech off of government handouts. 389 pay taxes...
XJigsaw66 1 year ago 33
@XJigsaw66 i guess that's why republicans never want tax cuts for the wealthy... oh wait!!
drummergirl1025 1 year ago
@XJigsaw66 All poor people or "leeches" are obviously lazy slobs who need to get off their asses and none of them are handicapped, sick, looking for work, or children. Damn kids should be back in the coal mines like in the good old days!
squamish4244 10 months ago
@squamish4244 Telling lazy people to stop being lazy is never gonna work.
And to think that will get America as hardworking as Japan? lol.... they have no idea...
ccricers 5 months ago
@squamish4244 Telling lazy people to stop being lazy isn't gonna work. Poor, unhappy lazy people are seeds to becoming criminals so we can't remove entitlements cold turkey unless you find a suitable replacement. I'd rather have a job conscription program- mandatory paid work and character development- for lazy people. Didn't anyone stop and think to look to Japan for inspiration?
ccricers 5 months ago
@XJigsaw66 Government handouts? You can't make a living off of government handouts. And just so you know, I thumbs-up'd this video even though me and my whole family are working upper middle-class citizens and taxpayers. Do yourself a favor, and stop saying that crap about handouts.
123ArcticIce321 6 months ago
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Read a history book dude. The Republicans started as the progressive party and between 1913 and 1965 the parties switched poles. Teddy Roosevelt (R) was a progressive. He busted trusts, taxed large inheritance, did some of the first environmental legislation (some of it back door w/o congress). It was the Civil Rights bill in the 60's that finally flipped the parties and every Southern Democrat flipped Republican.
IntegralBodyAwarenes 1 year ago
@IntegralBodyAwarenes Actually it was the Republicans in congress that passed the civil rights bills in the Johnson administration. Perhaps you should read up on the history of the civil rights movement. Remember that the Republicans granted rights the Democrats (who never wanted blacks to vote in the first place) figured well if we have to let them we might as well bribe them to vote Democrat with entitlements which are basically handouts that belittle African Americans. Lol just saying.
Sturmbannfuhrer21 1 year ago
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Ya but back then Democrats were considered "conservative" and Repubilcans were considered "liberal" the parties flipped later....Abraham Lincoln was a republican who freed the slaves, but he was still liberal
longhorn271 1 year ago
Democrats better at civil right? Wasn't it the Republicans that freed the slaves, and passed all the laws giving them rights...not to mention Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman were liked by the KKK. Wilson even watched the movie Birth of a Nation (Racist movie) in the white house... just saying.
Sturmbannfuhrer21 1 year ago
@Sturmbannfuhrer21 Read a history book dude. The Republicans started as the progressive party and between 1913 and 1965 the parties switched poles. Teddy Roosevelt (R) was a progressive. He busted trusts, taxed large inheritance, did some of the first environmental legislation (some of it back door w/o congress). It was the Civil Rights bill in the 60's that finally flipped the parties and every Southern Democrat flipped Republican.
IntegralBodyAwarenes 1 year ago
REBUBLICANS OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whoopla1095 1 year ago
Oh, this is hilarious, and so true!
RavenRaving2Earth 1 year ago
Libertarian.
Magicrazy1 1 year ago
388 Republicans disliked this video.
CHAOSoriginal 1 year ago
um. ya u need tax cuts anyone who wants to pay taxes has problems
toleslie 1 year ago
And also, you're from the UK hahahahahaha.... Enjoy your pound while it lasts. And school prices tripling.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
This is a load of bullshit. Democrats ARE Wall Street. Actually read legislation and listen to the elitist CEO's that go on TV. Hedge fund managers, what a fucking joke... Heads up folks, Warren Buffet pays 15% income taxes. No wonder he can "afford" an increase.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
Democrats don't sell-out to lobbyists and big business? Give me a break.
AmericaDevil 1 year ago
Wow I'm fine with Democrats being Democrats, as I myself am undecided, but to be so rude and to call yourself "better" is horrible. Seriously, earn some manners.
hannahhhxloveee 1 year ago
At least were not jackasses.
Hotrodrogers91 1 year ago
Democrats are bigger advocates of lower taxes for the most part. Republicans hold the middle class hostage by refusing to let a tax cut bill pass unless they include tax breaks for the top 2% also.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
Should the top 2% not get bigger cuts when they're paying more in? Oh nvm, you're for redistributing...which is...socialism...
huntinpreacherman 1 year ago
@huntinpreacherman Paying more into what....?
And to be honest, I don't care about some banker's 12th home or newest gold-plated ferrari.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw And I don't care about your home, your food, or your children. Doesn't mean I have the right to take them away. Read the fucking constitution. Nowhere in there does it include anything about taxes.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle But I DO care about your home, your food and your children.
You're the immoral exception.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw That's all irrelevant--and saying I'm the immoral exception is illogical as well as the ad-hominem attack in order to dodge my point.
You said you don't care about "some banker's 12th home or newest gold-plated ferrari;" you don't care whether or not they get taken away from the banker.
Suddenly your personal likes and dislikes have become all that 'matters,' rather than the principle behind it. If I don't care about something you have, that's no reason to forcibly take it away.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw Also, like I said, please do read the Constitution. You'll find almost nothing you support in it. If you would prefer a different Constitution, get the fuck out of this country and go to Russia or a place where you're a better fit.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle I don't think the UK has a "constitution"....
Also, your're an idiot and your comment made no sense and no points whatsoever.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw AD-HOMINEM ATTACK BRO--you "lose" by default.
Because you don't like the rich, take their money.
Because I don't like you, I'll take your house. That seems fair.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Sure. You can take my twelth house and give it to the poor.
I don't understand what your point is.
We are talking about the rich paying their fair share of taxes, not taking someone's house and leaving them on the streets. You are a complete moron.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw AD-HOMINEM ALERT. What's their "fair share"? Like I've been saying, that's all up to personal interpretation. I think your fair share is your house. If something doesn't work at an extreme, it won't work in moderation--check ethanol for proof of that, or just plug in a massive number into a mathematical equation and it's just what occurs on a smaller scale. Is somehow stealing a small amount more just than stealing a large amount? Answer that.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Right, so what you're saying is that there should be no taxes. By definition, you have to be an anarchist. If you're not an anarchist then you're a hypocrite and you need to re-read your comment.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw LOL anarchists are the only people who don't believe in taxes?
Again, please read the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere once does it mention taxes, federal income tax wasn't imposed until nearly 100 years after the implementation of the Constitution. I guess, by definition, Thomas Jefferson was an anarchist.
I merely believe in untouched freedom; that you should be able to do whatever you want AS LONG AS IT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH ANOTHER'S RIGHTS. I'm a libertarian. Big difference.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Yeah, they pretty much are. A state needs money in order to GOVERN things. In order to have a GOVERNMENT the government needs MONEY to GOVERN STUFF WITH. The only other way a state can get money is by printing all their own money which, as I hope you know, is NOT a very good idea.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw Dude, you randomly called me an idiot and moron. Point proven. As for taxes in the Constitution, have you read it yet? Keep dreaming, sir. Tell me, how much money did it take for the Founding Fathers to write the Constitution? How about for George Washington to run the US for 8 years? Oh that's right...
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle What are you trying to say. That a fire department, a police department, etc, can all be run for free? It's hard to see what your point is when you keep on devoting most of your post to Ad-Hominems about whether I've read the constitution, without explaining why that is supposed to be relevant.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw My last post had 2 sentences relating to the ad-hominem. Also, I'm saying that a fire department, a police department, etc, were nowhere in the Constitution.
They should either be what they've been in the distant past--volunteer work--or private enterprise.
Again, when this country was founded it required virtually no money to fund the federal government. Now they've eaten up our economy, e.g. the post office. Maybe 70 years ago it was relevant, but who needs mail every day now?
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Private police department....
And you say you're not an anarchist...
So in your world, what exactly is the role of the government? They don't do law or public safety or anything like that. They don't have any buildings and they can't hire any employees. And the world is run by mercenaries.
Yeah, I'd rather stick in this one.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@AEgamesFtw Distort things some more how don't you? Have you read Thomas Jefferson? How about Ayn Rand?
Our country was founded with two roles for the government--to provide NATIONAL defense and to break up monopolies.
And you think that our current police force isn't a bunch of mercenaries? Don't begin to kid yourself.
In all reality it would be taken up by volunteers, rather than as a career, just like what happened in the past before police officers were paid out of million $ buildings.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Cool, more and more ad hominems.
And you still haven't answered how the government is supposed to get money to "break up monopolies" and "provide NATIONAL defense" without taxation.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Oh WOW! An Ayn Rand fan! How about living your dream by moving to the Libertarian Paradise that is Somalia? No police, tiny government, everybody does what they want.......
A Libertarian Paradise indeed.
RavenRaving2Earth 1 year ago
@RavenRaving2Earth That sir, is what we call an anarchy, and a logical fallacy.
alexanderaristotle 1 year ago
@alexanderaristotle Oh yeah, and you're a giant hypocrite by the way. The only person who used ad-hominems was you by claiming I was using ad-hominems. I opinionated my arguments then you claimed I was just using Ad-Hominem in order to try to devalue my arguments. A classic Ad-Hominem.
AEgamesFtw 1 year ago
Southern DEMOCRATS were the primary party of slave owners. MLK, Harriet Tubman, Abe Lincoln, were all Republicans. Under times of democratic control the government did more things to hurt minorities than help, but they would blame it on Republicans and then do one thing that seemed huge but really weren't. Democrats freed MLK from jail, but people forget Democrats PUT him in jail as well. The Democratic party is designed to maintain its voters by opressing the system.
Hulkklogan 1 year ago
LOL, democrats are not for big business. Hmm that's why that Health Care bill was 1000 pages, and gave companies like McD's special exemptions.
snoopyflick 1 year ago
why are all black people democrat's, lincoln saved your ass!
socboy112395 1 year ago
@socboy112395 cause both parties switched views last century
popomaniac1 1 year ago
@popomaniac1 Sort of... not completly... some of the ideology is still the same as it was before.
MrLetmepeeinyourbutt 1 year ago
@socboy112395 Dude, shut the hell up. Nobody likes a racist.
RengokuBA 1 year ago
Voting is like Driving. To go forward you must select 'D'. To go backwards, select 'R'.
saadasim 1 year ago
Lobyists are from both sides? right? just crooked politicians doesn't matter wat party?
santanaramostarango 1 year ago 8
@santanaramostarango Yes, but with the Supreme Court ruling allowing corporations to donate unlimited funds under the cover of front groups like American Crossroads (Karl Rove), there is no transparency, and corporations can now buy elections. Note the millions coming into the Chamber of Commerce from foreign countries, even, to bring Democrats down. Why? They are for the little guy, and want to keep jobs in America. VOTE DEMOCRAT!!
demmmmm1 1 year ago
@demmmmm1
No way don't vote for the major parties, theyre both bought and paid for by corporations. Vote for a third party that you agree with. We need to SAY NO to the social construct that is the two-party system.
chaoscontrot 1 year ago
@santanaramostarango yeah... basically the republican side.. Nothing against republican views.. but there party is a bti corrupt atm
AnnoyingXboxer 10 months ago
@AnnoyingXboxer And the Democratic isn't? Where have you been sir?
TheBeatlesCom 10 months ago
@santanaramostarango well yeah, but you're got to pick the better of the 2 right now :/ so candidates that get money from Exxon or from PETA who's worst?
leongaban 9 months ago
See, Lincoln was a racist according to OUR times.
Again, I do not hold it against Lincoln. Comparing a figure of the 19th Century to the 21st century is distorting facts without inserting parity.
But in our modern terms, he was indeed a racist. And p.s. white nationalism is racism. Just ask Hitler.
He was considered by the South to be a disgrace to the white race, along with any other Radical Republican. Klansmen lynched hundreds of them, along with freed slaves.
nafaidni 1 year ago
p.s white nationalism is racism to YOU because you have no idea what it is.
White nationalism is the belief that white people have cultures and an identity that must be preserved by building a nation that protects all of that or multiple nations.
The only people against that are those who are racists themselves, those that wish harm and destruction towards white people and European cultures.
Hitler practiced national socialism, NOT white nationalism.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
I've honestly never seen anyone say a black person has the potential to become a genius and a white person is trash. I truly have never ever ever ever seen that.
Coming from a dominantly Asian part of California, I've seen just a joking racialist pride among Asians about our supposed intelligence and obsession over grades and blah blah.
But never have I seen anyone who really said whites were worthless, and most certainly not from a black person or in comparison to one.
nafaidni 1 year ago
I am talking about elitist white people saying that any white person who doesn't get a certain grade or have a certain IQ is worthless, while telling people that blacks could all be smarter if they weren't supposedly being held down.
When we call people like Obama smart and call Bush dumb when they sound the same without a teleprompter and practice some of the same failed policies, we know there is a double standard and it isn't just a political one.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19
And example of this is... what? I have never really heard anyone say, "You can get into a good college and job without working because you're black." I'd laugh at that, to be honest. Everyone knows that's blatantly false.
See, it's the whole "racial equalizer" concept, which I don't support, but most people accept.
And Obama is smarter than Bush because his policies are superior. And look up Republican Retreat Obama. He used no teleprompter in that debate.
nafaidni 1 year ago
Actually Obama has inferior policies to Bush, which is why while Bush had the power over both houses, unemployment stayed low and the debt grew at the normal rate of growth for nearly every president.
With absolute power over the govt, Obama has made poverty worse than the US has seen since my grandparents were kids and the unemployment has never truly gone down from its high levels.
If Democrats don't keep all of the current tax code there won't be a US in 5 years.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
Only example of anything I heard near this black college theory is when Obama said something along the lines of, "If you're black, sure you have a higher rate of committing crime, or dropping out, but that doesn't give you the right to not try hard."
And it's not really a good thing to have low social expectations. If people call whites worthless for not doing what they think blacks can't, it is more or less the fact people set higher expectations on them because they think whites are smarter.
nafaidni 1 year ago
you need to get out more and actually pay attention to what is going on.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19 This video came out in 2006.
eathenicus 1 year ago
you also have to fucking be kidding me about never seeing discrimination against white people in the workforce when you are from frickin California.
The only people shown from California are Hispanics and blacks, even though blacks make a LOW population of California in almost every single city , there sure as hell is discrimination against whites there.
It is bad here and we are over 90% white for Christ's sake.
Blacks are more than 50% of all advertising models now dipshit.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19
"The only people shown from California are Hispanics and blacks"
Are you smoking our Californian pot or something? That's new.
See, Hispanics make up 38.7% of the population or so of California. So if they are represented well, don't be surprised. And I don't know what you mean by "shown".
P.S. I got a statistic. 26% of models are non-whites in America. 26%. This is consistent with 25% of Americans being non-white.
nafaidni 1 year ago
and yet idiot, that 26% is constantly complained about. Instead of fixing the mass overrepresentation of minorities everywhere, the only truly representative sectors of society are forced to be more 'diverse'.
The rest of the country's institutions are far more than 25 or 26%.
I am talking about advertising models, where blacks are far more than 25% by themselves(with 'Hispanics' actually being non existent).
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
@ultimatetalesfan19
Again, it's not my concern how models are racially distributed. And that 50% statistic is bullshit, so the whole basis of your argument just crashed down on you.
Obama's recession was inherited from Bush, you fool. How long does it take you to get that through your skull? 800000 jobs were being lost a month by December of 2008! Bush's (weak job creation, btw. 3 mill compared to 21 mill under Clinton)
growth was stimulated by unsustainable long-term deficit spending.
nafaidni 1 year ago
I work in retail idiot, my statistics are either spot on or watered down from reality when it comes to things in retail to make it believable for ignorant people like you.
ultimatetalesfan19 1 year ago
This video is based on the false premise that there is a distinction between the two entrenched corporate political groups. Both parties are two sides of the same coin. The only difference is what they say in public. The ideology is just propaganda to sell the illusion that the voter can make a difference.
MajorSecord 1 year ago
Has anyone noticed that jota4change always has something degrading in his comments. Just like a democrat to have to bring people down to make themselves feel better.
animelover587 1 year ago
libertarian is linux.
dukee155 1 year ago
@MultiSnowman888 Right... Those are facts. Of course. Keep believing in none facts stupid republican.
jota4change 1 year ago