One more thing. To the "southparker" commenter (or whatever your name is), and those like you:
1)It is a fact you can look up that out of all the parties, provincially the NDP has the best record out of all of them for balancing budgets. The Liberals come second, and the Tories last. Federally, the Tories have never balanced a budget while it was the Liberals who had consecutive surpluses.
Add to that the current CONS have given us our biggest deficit so far.
@ammarios 2)Yes, I believe tha there is a huge flaw in a system that lets a party with 37% of the vote into power. It ISN'T true that when it was Chretien winning with similar numbers "we didn't say anything'. I was still unhappy about it. However, this time it IS even worse than when it was Chretien.Cons would be the first ppl to call the Liberals "lefties", so while the majority DID vote against the Libs back then,AT LEAST the majority voted for SOME varying degrees of a "left-of-tories" party
@ammarios Even though the system was ALSO flawed back then, but at least with the Libs winning, the 60% who voted for SOME form or degree of a party to the left of the CONS (Libs,NDP,Green,Bloc) got at LEAST that. With the Harperites winning it IS even worse because not only did the same thing happen, but this party is ideologically even FARTHER away from that of the majority. It is unfair/wrong regardless WHICH party wins with only 37% but it's even worse when that party is the Alliance\Reform
I agree with Rick: I think they should merge. Sure we might lose some Blue Liberals, but they weren't really Liberals, and either they'll vote Tory or not at all. However, this isn't such a huge problem because the same stuff was said about the right-wingers when they merged "oh red tories will bleed to the left" and they did..they bled to the liberals, but it wasn't enough of a problem to do any damage, the proof being is that those same ppl currently have a majority government...
@ammarios Also, whether we agree that the Liberals are left or right of centre doesn't matter; we know one thing for sure: They are DEFINITELY to the left of the neo-CONS. The right-wing only represents 30% of us. The rest of us (the REAL majority 60%) are all varying degrees of left-of-the-neocons. We are the actual majority (not the bullshit 'majority' of having seats in HOC due to a flawed system that the current govt only got through vote-splitting). I say merge and take the Greens in too
@ammarios And by the way, I am a hardcore NDP-er from their 'left' flank, my b.f is an NDP-er from their right-flank, HIS mother is a LIBERAL from their left-flank & MY father is a Liberal from their right-flank.We ALL agree that they should merge& all have said we would happily vote for them.My close friend WAS a conservative who, ever since the right-wing merged stopped supporting them and now votes Liberal & even HE thinks they should merge and would vote for them. We are the REAL majority.
@ammarios And plus, the one big advantage that WE would have as a united "left-of-the-Tories" group is that the majority of Canada is left-of-the-Tories..ESPECIALLY THESE Tories (don't forget, Harper's CONS are NOT the centre-right Progressive Conservatives of back-then, but they are the far-right Reform/Alliance Cons).The right-wing merger doesn't have the advantage of the majority of the population being closer to them ideologically.OUR merger would represent the majority of Canada,and (contd)
@ammarios (contd) and yes, there WILL be some that will bleed to the Tories, but not enough to worry about, ESPECIALLY considering many of those ppl, being Blue Liberals, would've usually historically bled to the Progressive Conservatives, but wouldn't be comfy enough bleeding to the very far-right. As for the the NDP'S very left-flank, there wouldn't be anywhere to really bleed to, &considering how few MPs the Libs have, Western NDP-ers would be ok knowing that this will NOT be a
@ammarios Liberal-dominated party. This is why I think it is not only important to merge, but to merge NOW, BEFORE another election. Why?? Well, unlikely as it sounds(but dont forget how unpredictable these things have been lately), ANY chance that the Liberals might have of becoming the larger party again, causing a merger to be Liberal-dominated would damage the partys appeal to the west. Now the best time coz the NDP is not only bigger but SO much bigger. Yes, after merging, the party will
@ammarios and should solidify their Quebec base and ALSO start working on the west. Now, the NDP has a MUCH better appeal to the west than the Liberals, not to mention the party IS originally a Saskatchewan party.Ottawa-Centre's NDP MP, Paul Dewar, got it right when he recently said that yes, they should focus on solidifying Quebec, but they MUST also reach out to their heartland(the west)
@ammarios Putting left\right\centre-right\centre-left labels aside, I know that the majority of Canadians want a socially-progressive government and a social-democratic economy. It's true that although it is undeniable that BOTH the NDP &Liberals are both socially-progressive parties ((historical fact), I have found that recently they've shifted economically too far right-ward, HOWEVER, in the days of Trudeau, Chretien..etc, they have also shown that they are more than capable of being (cont'd.)
@ammarios economically social-democratic, AND being electable (again, I can name many PMs who have been so). I've noticed that the Liberals always have trouble getting elected when they have an economically more right-wing leader (Turner, Paul Martin,Ignatieff..etc.).This is because when the Lib leader acted like a conservative, the con-voters still voted for the REAL conservative. This would ensure the merged party hold on to their already-existent socially-progressive ideals while (cont'd..)
@ammarios economically it would be a combination of the NDPs firm social-democracy+Libs historically-proven ability to be social-democratic.Socially-progressive Libs wouldnt bleed to THESE Tories,while those that WOULD inevitably bleed over wouldnt be big enough to worry about as we'd STILL be the 60% majority of the pop.
Enough with the social/economic oppression of the current govt supported by minority of pop
Anyways,sorry for the lengthy ranty comment.Just wanted to spill what I was thinking
I'm a liberal, and I don't want my party merging with the NDP. The Liberal party is suppose to be the centrist party (apparently no one told Dion or Ignatieff this). If the Liberal party was absorbed by the NDP, I'm not sure who I'd vote for. I'd be stuck between the neoliberals (Conservative) or the socialists (NDP). That is not somewhere I'd want to be.
Sure, lets just forget that the Liberals and NDP have some pretty different ideology. Screw it, merge 'em anyway and make it basically a two party system?
if the Liberals and NDP were to merge into one party, the end result would still be the same...hardcore NDP and Liberals will be mad and begin voting for the Conservatives.
Merger is a horrible idea. I recall Rick himself saying that the combined vote of the PCs/Reform post-merger wasn't enough to overtake the Liberals; the only thing that changed since that pronouncement was the sponsorship scandal. Not all NDP voters would choose Liberal as their second choice, BTW, especially in the Prairies.
Anyone who actually believes that there is a difference between political parties, that their vote counts or that democracy exists... is living in an illusion so grand... no amount of narcotic or therapy will bring you back to reality. There one party, the MONEY party, if you have no money, you're not part of the party. That simple. Read a history book, throughout all of western history the rich have ruled ALL parties... why would it be any different now? lol Left, Right... doesn't exist.
@ShinEmperor closely agree, but if you read the federal budgets you will see that there are differences in how parties spend money. so to say they are all the same, and that voting does nothing does not solve anything at all, shows you(anyone) are either not educated on the matters at hand, or just don't care about how your taxes are being spent. thats just one thing that each party does sometimes dramatically different from each other.
@Datavus It is because I AM educated on the matters at hand and I DO care that I understand what's going on. The direction that wealth has moved speaks volumes about who is in charge. It speaks volumes about WHO gets to run and who get elected. It speak volumes to the HUGE percentage of Canadians who are completely disenfranchised with the system. The TRUTH is... no matter who is in power... wealth only flows in one direction.. to the top. Oh you can vote... as long as you stay poor doing so.
@ShinEmperor Non sequitur much? The sad irony is that apathetics like you help to give power to the very thing that you supposedly hate. You don't see the point in voting because of some vague lament about "the man" being in power? All you're doing is screwing over the rest of us, who see an opportunity to make our voices heard. All you're doing is playing right into the hands of the small extremist groups who feed off of apathy to gain power. It seems you're the one who needs to face reality.
@capefeather If you believe that voting matters, then you're simply insane. Please do the research before repeating the rhetoric you've been conditioned to accept. If you think apathy empowers extremism then you also do not understand extremism irony here is you sound extreme with the "Well, if you're not part of it, then you must be against it"... This kind of flawed logic can only come from the mind of someone who has never really bothered questioning the world around them..
@ShinEmperor It's simple math, every person who doesn't vote helps the party that's winning get a majority. If you're going to insult everybody who disagrees with you without any realistic explanation, and twist my words, then maybe you should take some pointers from the Conservatives.
I've done my reading. I agree that the way in which we have implemented democracy quite frankly sucks. Doing nothing won't change that. Doing something might, and it only costs maybe $10 per person. What a deal!
@capefeather I really haven't insulted anyone. Insanity, might have been heavy handed, but the reality is that it IS insanity. The very definition of insanity states if you do something over and over expecting a different result is insanity. The truth, is that the rich have gotten richer, the poorer have gotten poorer, National debt has climbed and corruption is rampant. History has shown, no matter who is in power SOMEONE get squashed.. (and it all usually gives way to despotism/fascism)
@ShinEmperor You're thinking too much in generalities. I do care about how wealth is spread around in general, but I also care about how it's spread around specifically to areas like health care, education and the environment. The different political parties all have obviously different approaches to these specific areas. If you're waiting for a dramatic change, you're not going to get one, and you're not going to see the little changes that make real differences in people's lives.
@capefeather Generalities? Maybe. Doesn't make it any less true. Of course there won't be dramatic change... but I'm not naive. This country is like all modern countries.The interests lie in hands of the wealthy. No matter what kind of government, no matter what economic system.. the top is corrupt. Period. I agree, there will be no discernible change. It is by design. it's the nature of human civilization. Deny it, that's fine you're entitled to accept whatever truth you want. History is clear.
@ShinEmperor I'm not denying anything, just pointing out that Louis XIV is different from Louis XVI, as it were. And if you don't see the point of that analogy, there's nothing more I can say to you. I've seen one party destroy hospitals and another party rebuild them. Doesn't "little" stuff like that matter? Or are you suggesting some kind of conspiracy?
@capefeather Define "conspiracy"? in the bigger picture building/demolishing hospitals is small. Considering the every day business of most modern states. Not just Canada. Ideally it is indeed about apathy, and keeping stability. That's how you keep power. The Romans knew it, to assume somehow in this day and age that those in power are immune to this thought process is a little naive (in my opinion). Keeping the the bottom content, the middle happy and top rich it how it works.
We shouldn't have to resort to the same game of 'vote for the lesser evil' that the US is currently stuck in order to have a balanced democratic system. The vote split in the prior election doesn't show us that a merge is necessary, but rather that we need to discard the first past the post system. This would also make it fair for other parties to get involved with politics as well other than just the big three.
Nice to see Rick back on the air! Hard to say if a Liberal/NDP merger would work, or would even be desirable for either party -- but it *would* make things more interesting.
So because someone is an engaged citizen and belongs to a political party, they must be vile and disgusting? Fuck you, Rick. You've been getting further and further off the mark with your remarks as the years go by. Rick, it's time to either actually stand for something or retire.
but then won't we have a 2 party system if they merge? that might not be good either. yes there is bloc Quebecois but no one really voted for them the last election...........
I don't think a merger would be a great idea. But I don't think NDP/Liberals would have a chance against the conservatives with the current electoral system either. There is another alternative: Liberals and the NDP form a coalition before the next election, which will most probably give them a majority government after the election; when they are in power, they should educate people about the 'Alternative Vote' system and have a referendum. When that's approved by people... you do the math.
Great idea! I'm inbetween liberal and NDP most of the time anyways, just keep that moron harper out of office! you guys let him have a majority for craps sake and now we all suffer
People may point out that almost every majority government in Canada after WW2 was elected by less than 50% of the vote. But doesn't that make it worse? The problem was there the whole time, and we've only noticed it now that the Harper Conservatives are abusing the excess power that the flawed electoral system gave them, and even lie to our faces about how our democracy works. We need an electoral system overhaul...
I don't like Harper but I also don't like giving lazy people money they don't need so really there's a not a whole lot of choice other than voting for independents.
@DolzhenkoPavel "lazy people" That's a destructive greedy stereotype. When you've hit rock bottom because of a mental illness, because you were born in a poor family, have an addiction or tons of other problems. Then you'll be on the other end not bitching (because no one is going to listen to you) but begging on the other end. It was never easy to become middle class from being dirt poor especially with with past experiences that are negative.
@finnsia You obviously are an idiot if you associate mentally or physically disabled people as laziness. I don't want any of my tax dollars paying for someone's drug or alcohol habit. Welfare should be regulated, drugs tests done ect,
@DolzhenkoPavel Calling me an idiot all of a sudden? How is that supposed to help any intellectual discourse? The diserving poor concept is what you've clearly displayed in your comment. The thinking is as primitive as thinking the Earth is flat. Unfortunately socially people haven't evolved as much. I agree welfare should be regulated however there aren't many lazy people. Most hit rock bottom and can't get out. And you or anyone else supporting that are truely lazy won't help the economy.
@finnsia The only thing displayed is how out of touch with reality you are. "there aren't many lazy people". Yes, there are. You have either never stepped outside or you yourself are lazy. Coming from an immigrant growing up in a low-income neighborhood and and now working with small businesses I can say without a doubt there are vast amounts of people who abuse the system ALL the time. Please stop replying to me, you misinterpreted my original comment and now you're just rambling.
@DolzhenkoPavel No, you misinterpreted by response and now you're just rambling. Ha. Your condesending insults will get you nowhere. I work with "lazy people"as a career. I also have to tell them about the generalizations and stereotypes that people like yourself create.
@finnsia No. Never in my comments did I make generalizations that you're assuming I made. I said LAZY people NOT POOR, I never said nor implied that poor=lazy. You fucking idiot please reread my comments and tell me where I implied that. I actually believe social assistance are important you dumbass, my original comment was regarding tax dollars not being given to the LAZY for misuse. You ASSUMED I meant all people on welfare are LAZY which I did NOT. Do you understand now? LOL Idiot.
@DolzhenkoPavel You made more juvenile insults than a student in an elementary school. When you can add something intellectual to the discussion then you can respond back.
@ktm144blitz Nice to see that you have such an educated response to my youtube comment, regardless you're entitled to your opinion and so am I. It's a youtube video, cheer up and go do something productive :)
Lets overthrow the Canadian Government and elect Justin Trudea as the Head Beaver. His Assistant Beaver can be Rick. I think it'll work!! Lets try it!!!!
@PixelDansIronFist That would actually make sense if we were Americans. Canada isn't a democracy; we're a constitutional monarchy. We have a democratic process to elect representatives to parliament, but beyond that, it's up to the Queen/GG to determine which party has the confidence of parliament, and thus is best suited to lead the country.
@PixelDansIronFist That would actually make sense if we were Americans. Canada isn't a democracy; we're a constitutional monarchy. We have a democratic process to elect representatives to parliament, but beyond that, it's up to the Queen/GG to determine which party has the confidence of parliament, and thus is best suited to lead the country.
Well-said Rick, but i'll tell you why this is fucking bullshit - because if the leftest of parties (NDP) had won the majority, no one would have even DARED suggest that the right-wing and center-right parties merge (in this case Conservatives and Liberals). It's insulting because it's assuming that because neither parties' (NDP and Liberal) POV's are really all that extreme, that they can be a little lax and not be so fiercely and staunchly dedicated to their beliefs.
Not too hot on the idea, to be honest. I'd rather have another mainstream right-wing party, so that everyone has an alternative in case their party of choice becomes corrupt or incompentent in some way. I kind of feel sorry for progressive people in the US, as their Democratic president bows to the Republicans almost all the time. Meanwhile, intellectually honest conservatives only have a corrupt and stupid party to vote for.
Actually, one last thing that should be OBVIOUS...
The majority of the people HATE HARPER'S GUTS. It is mathematically impossible to call ~35% of the recorded vote, a majority (especially when most people didn't bother to vote at all).
It's fine to disagree, but when you're trying to tell us that black is white, and that rain is dry, you only make yourself look like an idiot.
@BoredomCorner lol rhetoric and misunderstanding of our political system is not a valid argument, try again this time without the blatant fallacies junior.
What is so hard to understand? Harper WASTED OUR MONEY ON JUNK. Harper OBSTRUCTED A TORTURE PROBE. Harper SUPPORTED AN MP WHO FORGED A FUNDING DOCUMENT. Harper DIDN'T SEE THE RECESSION COMING. Harper's party TRIED TO STEAL A BALLOT BOX. Harper's party TRIED TO SEND VOTERS TO THE WRONG POLLING STATIONS. Harper's supporters REGULARLY THREATEN ANYONE WHO CRITICIZES THEIR HERO.
@BoredomCorner More baseless claims, appeals to emotion and illogical ramblings of a madman. Let's see if you can actually form a coherent thought this time, but then again, most pinko scum usually have no IQs, it's pretty much a requirement to be indoctrinated in a cult.
Derp how dare a leader of a country host a trade summit with other economic power houses, how dare he bring us out of the recession better than 90% of the rest of the world.
@Southparker100000000 It's baseless to point out that Harper wasted a RECORD amount of money on a glorified photo op? And to rub it in, had people banged up and arrested, who had broken no laws?
BTW what do you think of Harper wasted $90K a day to read a fucking spread sheet?
@Southparker100000000 It's baseless to point out that Harper wasted a RECORD amount of money on a glorified photo op? And to rub it in, had people banged up and arrested, who had broken no laws?
BTW what do you think of Harper wasted $90K a day to read a fucking spread sheet?
@BoredomCorner And the liberals wasted 1 Billion dollars on a registry of law abiding citizens, then their liberal police force commenced to harass and jail them for simply having the temerity of owning a means of self defence.
Until you can prove that Harper actually had people arrested for no reason(which is an impossibility as the Prime minister does not command any police force), you can please stop claiming your fantasies to be fact.
@Southparker100000000 Maybe you didn't read the news, but the Harper government openly acknowledged that the PMO was in charge of G20 security. That means that they either ordered or commended everything the cops did, including beating and jailing people who didn't do anything wrong.
@Southparker100000000 Oh and BTW the Liberals only burned a billions bucks ONCE -- something you condemn. Yet you are totally fine with Harper doing that REPEATEDLY.
Canada no longer has a government as it has been Hijacked by a Terrorist Government called: The Harper Government. We all remember what happened in 1945 to a former German Dictator. Dictatorial Governments all end very badly. O,...and Let's keep watching the Stock Market.....lol
@TheSilverWatch Yeah because when the world economy collapses people are going to be so eager to trade for your silver and not just take it, you imbecile.
Canada no longer has a government as it has been Hijacked by a Terrorist Government called: The Harper Government. We all remember what happened in 1945 to a former German Dictator. Dictatorial Governments all end very badly. O,...and Let's keep watching the Stock Market.....lol
I don't think merger will work. I was campaigning for the Liberals door to door this year, and I hear a crapload (20%+) of people who are usually Liberal saying they will vote Conservative just to prevent a NDP government.
@jincongz I'd rather a Liberal than an NDP to, the NDP is notorious for destroying business and ruining economies. Just look at what they did to the equipment industry in Ontario.
merger would be great, but i guess i can live with NDP and Liberal having a formal alliance and they choose one common candidates for each ridings. so that means each ridings will have either a ndp candidates or lib, but not both and thus preventing the votes split.
@sonic2277 Not sure if im replying twice to you by mistake... if so sorry. Having said that, in this country we use First Past the Post. If you dont like it, you can either leave, lobby to change to list based direct elections, AV or whatever other system you want, or shut up about it...
@sonic2277 Actually most Conservatives respect the democracy of this country, It's the liberals that hate freedom and the voting, they only like democracy when it means they're in control. Why do you hate Canada so much?
@Southparker100000000 I think it's the same for every canadian of every party. And I don't hate Canada, I hate 39,6% of its citizens when it comes to vote.
@sonic2277 No, I've never in past, nor do I intend to in the future. I'm not immature and vindictive like the pinko trash that pollutes our fair country.
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a hate spewing nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
@QCprepper You can't reason with them, if you could reason with a leftists, there wouldn't be leftists. They don't base their ideas on logic, they only think with emotion, that's why that one guy is basically claiming that Harper is killing people. He doesn't know anything more than "Harper isn't Liberal, I must hate Harper". It's what he's been programmed to think.
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a hate spewing nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other non-sense is making the rounds these days...
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other non-sense is making the rounds these days...
@AllRequired Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won.
@AllRequired Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won. lose the hipocracy and maybe more Canadians will vote for you...
@QCprepper But that wasn't a random act that came out of the blue. It was a direct result of a properly planned premeditated campaign centered around a leader whose team knew exactly what they were doing every step of the way. Harper's team set out to manipulate the minds and hearts of the voters in such a way that the votes would go to him. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it.
39.62% actually, but I'll forgive your blatant lie.
It's extremely simply division, 39.62% when split among 5 subjects who have divided the remainder amongst themselves in a way that results in lower percentages, is a majority. How you passed grade 5 math I will never know, your two dimensional thinking is laughable.
Furthermore, that last bit is unfounded slander, prove such a claim, slander is commonplace among democracy and freedom hating individuals like yourself.
@oldben101 If people are too apathetic to vote, then they dont count when you tally popular vote, sorry there pal... try a less facetious way of doctoring your data...
@QCprepper Um...I didn't doctor anything. I just showed you some simple math. Are you saying the math is false? You do not need to explain to me how our electoral system "works." (It doesn't) That's why Rick Mercer is saying what he's saying, and a majority of Canadians agree with him.
@Southparker100000000 How is showing you a simple math equation misleading and dishonest? I was just trying to show you how BoredomCorner came up with his/her number. Misleading Dishonest? Try looking in the mirror.
@oldben101 It is dishonest, because it implies that the numbers are not relative. News reporters would lose their jobs for saying that it's so dishonest.
@Southparker100000000 The point is, Harper was NOT elected by a majority of Canadians. Anyone who can read a dictionary gets that, so for you to not get it means you're an idiot. For you to not care, means you're an asshole who has no place "teaching" us anything.
@BoredomCorner I'll explain how this works in small words so as not to hurt your head, ok little guy?
You fail to understand the electoral system at all, Yes some people did not vote for the Conservative government, but more people did vote for them than did not. You are blind to anyone other than yourself, you discount 40% of the population in favour of 30%, that is undemocratic.
You are only whining because you're not in control, and you hate the freedoms this country stands for.
Just a suggestion - maybe you should do a little research before posting: Of the people who voted May 2nd...39% voted for Harper (that's a little over a third in case you aren't sure) and 61% of those who voted DID NOT vote for Harper (that's a little short of 2/3 ). Harper won a majority of SEATS but he was a long way from getting a majority of votes. Sometimes I just got to shake my head....
Just a suggestion - maybe you should do a little research before posting: Of the people who voted May 2nd...39% voted for Harper (that's a little over a third in case you aren't sure) and 61% of those who voted DID NOT vote for Harper (that's a little short of 2/3 ). Harper won a majority of SEATS but he was a long way from getting a majority of votes. Sometimes I just got to shake my head....
@newtothenorthshore yeah, and 70% didn't vote for the NDP, and 82% didn't vote for the Liberals. There you Leftists go again, more intentionally dishonest statistics. Maybe you should do a little research next time.
@BoredomCorner Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won. Plus in this country we use FPTP; if you dont like it, lobby for AV, leave, or stop moaning about it frankly...
@QCprepper Because Liberals actually hate democracy and liberty, they only like it when they're in charge, not when the People are in charge; and they'll use fear, coercion and intellectual fraud to get what they want.
@QCprepper@Southparker100000000 That's funny, I don't remember Liberals throwing anyone out of their campaign stops, or refusing to talk to the press. Nor has any member of the Liberal party tried to tell me that I'm a traitor for not supporting the Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, the Harperites sick the RCMP and their own troublemakers on anyone with a brain, cuts brake lines of Lib supporters, etc.
@Southparker100000000 Nearly every time the Libs are in power, they turn deficits into surpluses. Every time the Tories are in power, the opposite happens.
Oh, and about these "arctic threats" you speak of... how are the F-35s going to defend us from them, when they don't even have the RANGE to work in the arctic? If those planes are so good, WHY DOES NO ONE ELSE WANT THEM?
@BoredomCorner Nice, putting words in my mouth, I have not said a single thing about arctic threats, more dishonesty from the communist menace. Although concerning your issue they do in fact have range, and we have aerial refuelling planes for long distance patrols. Other countries do not want them because many already have up to date fighter craft, unlike us. And the fact that they F-35s are new technology scares some defence organizations.
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
Liberal-Democrats! Yeah, Merging is a great idea.
LudicrousPlatypus 3 weeks ago 4
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Rick Mercer is a fucking tool
Freethinker12341 1 month ago
Bob Stanfield would be their best choice for a leader; red tories gotta go somewhere-
GeneWIldman 1 month ago 5
One more thing. To the "southparker" commenter (or whatever your name is), and those like you:
1)It is a fact you can look up that out of all the parties, provincially the NDP has the best record out of all of them for balancing budgets. The Liberals come second, and the Tories last. Federally, the Tories have never balanced a budget while it was the Liberals who had consecutive surpluses.
Add to that the current CONS have given us our biggest deficit so far.
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios 2)Yes, I believe tha there is a huge flaw in a system that lets a party with 37% of the vote into power. It ISN'T true that when it was Chretien winning with similar numbers "we didn't say anything'. I was still unhappy about it. However, this time it IS even worse than when it was Chretien.Cons would be the first ppl to call the Liberals "lefties", so while the majority DID vote against the Libs back then,AT LEAST the majority voted for SOME varying degrees of a "left-of-tories" party
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios Even though the system was ALSO flawed back then, but at least with the Libs winning, the 60% who voted for SOME form or degree of a party to the left of the CONS (Libs,NDP,Green,Bloc) got at LEAST that. With the Harperites winning it IS even worse because not only did the same thing happen, but this party is ideologically even FARTHER away from that of the majority. It is unfair/wrong regardless WHICH party wins with only 37% but it's even worse when that party is the Alliance\Reform
ammarios 2 months ago 2
I agree with Rick: I think they should merge. Sure we might lose some Blue Liberals, but they weren't really Liberals, and either they'll vote Tory or not at all. However, this isn't such a huge problem because the same stuff was said about the right-wingers when they merged "oh red tories will bleed to the left" and they did..they bled to the liberals, but it wasn't enough of a problem to do any damage, the proof being is that those same ppl currently have a majority government...
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios Also, whether we agree that the Liberals are left or right of centre doesn't matter; we know one thing for sure: They are DEFINITELY to the left of the neo-CONS. The right-wing only represents 30% of us. The rest of us (the REAL majority 60%) are all varying degrees of left-of-the-neocons. We are the actual majority (not the bullshit 'majority' of having seats in HOC due to a flawed system that the current govt only got through vote-splitting). I say merge and take the Greens in too
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios And by the way, I am a hardcore NDP-er from their 'left' flank, my b.f is an NDP-er from their right-flank, HIS mother is a LIBERAL from their left-flank & MY father is a Liberal from their right-flank.We ALL agree that they should merge& all have said we would happily vote for them.My close friend WAS a conservative who, ever since the right-wing merged stopped supporting them and now votes Liberal & even HE thinks they should merge and would vote for them. We are the REAL majority.
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios And plus, the one big advantage that WE would have as a united "left-of-the-Tories" group is that the majority of Canada is left-of-the-Tories..ESPECIALLY THESE Tories (don't forget, Harper's CONS are NOT the centre-right Progressive Conservatives of back-then, but they are the far-right Reform/Alliance Cons).The right-wing merger doesn't have the advantage of the majority of the population being closer to them ideologically.OUR merger would represent the majority of Canada,and (contd)
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios (contd) and yes, there WILL be some that will bleed to the Tories, but not enough to worry about, ESPECIALLY considering many of those ppl, being Blue Liberals, would've usually historically bled to the Progressive Conservatives, but wouldn't be comfy enough bleeding to the very far-right. As for the the NDP'S very left-flank, there wouldn't be anywhere to really bleed to, &considering how few MPs the Libs have, Western NDP-ers would be ok knowing that this will NOT be a
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios Liberal-dominated party. This is why I think it is not only important to merge, but to merge NOW, BEFORE another election. Why?? Well, unlikely as it sounds(but dont forget how unpredictable these things have been lately), ANY chance that the Liberals might have of becoming the larger party again, causing a merger to be Liberal-dominated would damage the partys appeal to the west. Now the best time coz the NDP is not only bigger but SO much bigger. Yes, after merging, the party will
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios and should solidify their Quebec base and ALSO start working on the west. Now, the NDP has a MUCH better appeal to the west than the Liberals, not to mention the party IS originally a Saskatchewan party.Ottawa-Centre's NDP MP, Paul Dewar, got it right when he recently said that yes, they should focus on solidifying Quebec, but they MUST also reach out to their heartland(the west)
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios Putting left\right\centre-right\centre-left labels aside, I know that the majority of Canadians want a socially-progressive government and a social-democratic economy. It's true that although it is undeniable that BOTH the NDP &Liberals are both socially-progressive parties ((historical fact), I have found that recently they've shifted economically too far right-ward, HOWEVER, in the days of Trudeau, Chretien..etc, they have also shown that they are more than capable of being (cont'd.)
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios economically social-democratic, AND being electable (again, I can name many PMs who have been so). I've noticed that the Liberals always have trouble getting elected when they have an economically more right-wing leader (Turner, Paul Martin,Ignatieff..etc.).This is because when the Lib leader acted like a conservative, the con-voters still voted for the REAL conservative. This would ensure the merged party hold on to their already-existent socially-progressive ideals while (cont'd..)
ammarios 2 months ago
@ammarios economically it would be a combination of the NDPs firm social-democracy+Libs historically-proven ability to be social-democratic.Socially-progressive Libs wouldnt bleed to THESE Tories,while those that WOULD inevitably bleed over wouldnt be big enough to worry about as we'd STILL be the 60% majority of the pop.
Enough with the social/economic oppression of the current govt supported by minority of pop
Anyways,sorry for the lengthy ranty comment.Just wanted to spill what I was thinking
ammarios 2 months ago 2
your fucking stupid jerk off conservative you write same comment 10 times
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jefdros 2 months ago
I'm a liberal, and I don't want my party merging with the NDP. The Liberal party is suppose to be the centrist party (apparently no one told Dion or Ignatieff this). If the Liberal party was absorbed by the NDP, I'm not sure who I'd vote for. I'd be stuck between the neoliberals (Conservative) or the socialists (NDP). That is not somewhere I'd want to be.
SereneSatellites 2 months ago
@SereneSatellites How about you vote for people who aren't constantly breaking the law, and attacking democracy?
BoredomCorner 2 months ago
Sure, lets just forget that the Liberals and NDP have some pretty different ideology. Screw it, merge 'em anyway and make it basically a two party system?
thepete85 4 months ago
Since when did the Liberals have become a centre left party ?
schnuurtchke 4 months ago 8
@schnuurtchke Dion was kind of pointing it that way, for a while.
BoredomCorner 2 months ago
if the Liberals and NDP were to merge into one party, the end result would still be the same...hardcore NDP and Liberals will be mad and begin voting for the Conservatives.
LivesForJihad 4 months ago
@LivesForJihad Then they'd be idiots.
BoredomCorner 2 months ago
@BoredomCorner Or, after enough time, another left-wing party will emerge, and we will be back to square one.
However, I never see the two merging.
LivesForJihad 2 months ago
Merger is a horrible idea. I recall Rick himself saying that the combined vote of the PCs/Reform post-merger wasn't enough to overtake the Liberals; the only thing that changed since that pronouncement was the sponsorship scandal. Not all NDP voters would choose Liberal as their second choice, BTW, especially in the Prairies.
WpgRagReview 4 months ago
I agree, merge!!! Look what it did for the The Conservatives and Reform. Yes yes yes merge. I'd vote for that.
aludbrook 4 months ago
13 people are political activists sorry sorry I had to
balzirus 4 months ago
we'll said Rick. would love to see two parties working together for a common goal!
Datavus 4 months ago
Anyone who actually believes that there is a difference between political parties, that their vote counts or that democracy exists... is living in an illusion so grand... no amount of narcotic or therapy will bring you back to reality. There one party, the MONEY party, if you have no money, you're not part of the party. That simple. Read a history book, throughout all of western history the rich have ruled ALL parties... why would it be any different now? lol Left, Right... doesn't exist.
ShinEmperor 5 months ago
@ShinEmperor closely agree, but if you read the federal budgets you will see that there are differences in how parties spend money. so to say they are all the same, and that voting does nothing does not solve anything at all, shows you(anyone) are either not educated on the matters at hand, or just don't care about how your taxes are being spent. thats just one thing that each party does sometimes dramatically different from each other.
although on a global scale its different and sad.
Datavus 4 months ago
@Datavus It is because I AM educated on the matters at hand and I DO care that I understand what's going on. The direction that wealth has moved speaks volumes about who is in charge. It speaks volumes about WHO gets to run and who get elected. It speak volumes to the HUGE percentage of Canadians who are completely disenfranchised with the system. The TRUTH is... no matter who is in power... wealth only flows in one direction.. to the top. Oh you can vote... as long as you stay poor doing so.
ShinEmperor 4 months ago
@ShinEmperor Non sequitur much? The sad irony is that apathetics like you help to give power to the very thing that you supposedly hate. You don't see the point in voting because of some vague lament about "the man" being in power? All you're doing is screwing over the rest of us, who see an opportunity to make our voices heard. All you're doing is playing right into the hands of the small extremist groups who feed off of apathy to gain power. It seems you're the one who needs to face reality.
capefeather 4 months ago
@capefeather If you believe that voting matters, then you're simply insane. Please do the research before repeating the rhetoric you've been conditioned to accept. If you think apathy empowers extremism then you also do not understand extremism irony here is you sound extreme with the "Well, if you're not part of it, then you must be against it"... This kind of flawed logic can only come from the mind of someone who has never really bothered questioning the world around them..
ShinEmperor 4 months ago
@ShinEmperor It's simple math, every person who doesn't vote helps the party that's winning get a majority. If you're going to insult everybody who disagrees with you without any realistic explanation, and twist my words, then maybe you should take some pointers from the Conservatives.
I've done my reading. I agree that the way in which we have implemented democracy quite frankly sucks. Doing nothing won't change that. Doing something might, and it only costs maybe $10 per person. What a deal!
capefeather 4 months ago
@capefeather I really haven't insulted anyone. Insanity, might have been heavy handed, but the reality is that it IS insanity. The very definition of insanity states if you do something over and over expecting a different result is insanity. The truth, is that the rich have gotten richer, the poorer have gotten poorer, National debt has climbed and corruption is rampant. History has shown, no matter who is in power SOMEONE get squashed.. (and it all usually gives way to despotism/fascism)
ShinEmperor 4 months ago
@ShinEmperor You're thinking too much in generalities. I do care about how wealth is spread around in general, but I also care about how it's spread around specifically to areas like health care, education and the environment. The different political parties all have obviously different approaches to these specific areas. If you're waiting for a dramatic change, you're not going to get one, and you're not going to see the little changes that make real differences in people's lives.
capefeather 4 months ago
@capefeather Generalities? Maybe. Doesn't make it any less true. Of course there won't be dramatic change... but I'm not naive. This country is like all modern countries.The interests lie in hands of the wealthy. No matter what kind of government, no matter what economic system.. the top is corrupt. Period. I agree, there will be no discernible change. It is by design. it's the nature of human civilization. Deny it, that's fine you're entitled to accept whatever truth you want. History is clear.
ShinEmperor 4 months ago
@ShinEmperor I'm not denying anything, just pointing out that Louis XIV is different from Louis XVI, as it were. And if you don't see the point of that analogy, there's nothing more I can say to you. I've seen one party destroy hospitals and another party rebuild them. Doesn't "little" stuff like that matter? Or are you suggesting some kind of conspiracy?
capefeather 4 months ago
@capefeather Define "conspiracy"? in the bigger picture building/demolishing hospitals is small. Considering the every day business of most modern states. Not just Canada. Ideally it is indeed about apathy, and keeping stability. That's how you keep power. The Romans knew it, to assume somehow in this day and age that those in power are immune to this thought process is a little naive (in my opinion). Keeping the the bottom content, the middle happy and top rich it how it works.
ShinEmperor 4 months ago
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@ShinEmperor Like I said, if you care more about the existence of "the man" than what "the man" does, there's nothing to talk about.
capefeather 4 months ago
Frankly I would rather vote for a small deaf chimp with one leg rather then elect ANOTHER torie...but hey that may just be me.
PurpleRosary 5 months ago
"Unite the left"? At this juncture that's beginning to sound like a good idea.
deepshockonYT 5 months ago
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genius, just as usual :')
MtsLankstar 5 months ago
genius, just as usual :')
MtsLankstar 5 months ago
Yay, Rick, you nailed it!
klimaxg 5 months ago
Well with the right coalition, I think we all know that the Tories are done.
Unfortunately, there would be a huge power struggle in this case.
Mind you though, we'd probably have over 50% every election.
dra900nka1n 5 months ago 7
We shouldn't have to resort to the same game of 'vote for the lesser evil' that the US is currently stuck in order to have a balanced democratic system. The vote split in the prior election doesn't show us that a merge is necessary, but rather that we need to discard the first past the post system. This would also make it fair for other parties to get involved with politics as well other than just the big three.
EagerEmu 5 months ago
@EagerEmu Good luck with that -- no party in power will bring proportional representation in.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
Pretty lame to take a shot at political activists.
augerrusty 5 months ago
@augerrusty Well if activists would put their words into action, it would make them a bit more sympathetic.
I protested Harper AND bothered to vote against him on Game Day. The same can't be said of many Canadians.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
Liberals are right wing. Fake leftys. Govern from the right.
augerrusty 5 months ago
Nice to see Rick back on the air! Hard to say if a Liberal/NDP merger would work, or would even be desirable for either party -- but it *would* make things more interesting.
MegaHentai00 5 months ago
The Liberals are a right wing party, To hell with merging.
Chr1551 5 months ago
So because someone is an engaged citizen and belongs to a political party, they must be vile and disgusting? Fuck you, Rick. You've been getting further and further off the mark with your remarks as the years go by. Rick, it's time to either actually stand for something or retire.
inconcordium 5 months ago
@inconcordium Dude. It's a joke. Don't take it personally.
Phycon2000 5 months ago
but then won't we have a 2 party system if they merge? that might not be good either. yes there is bloc Quebecois but no one really voted for them the last election...........
LoveForChinaForava 5 months ago 3
/slow clap
GrasshopperPhoto 5 months ago
I don't think a merger would be a great idea. But I don't think NDP/Liberals would have a chance against the conservatives with the current electoral system either. There is another alternative: Liberals and the NDP form a coalition before the next election, which will most probably give them a majority government after the election; when they are in power, they should educate people about the 'Alternative Vote' system and have a referendum. When that's approved by people... you do the math.
santoory 5 months ago
Great idea! I'm inbetween liberal and NDP most of the time anyways, just keep that moron harper out of office! you guys let him have a majority for craps sake and now we all suffer
Kingsoupturbo 5 months ago 2
Not sure about the merger!
Innerdepths 5 months ago
Give 'em hell, Rick.
DeguGamingNetwork 5 months ago
brilliant
NahyanChowdhury 5 months ago
He forgot the jello shots.
Can't have Barry Manillow without Jello shots.
SabinleRose 5 months ago
People may point out that almost every majority government in Canada after WW2 was elected by less than 50% of the vote. But doesn't that make it worse? The problem was there the whole time, and we've only noticed it now that the Harper Conservatives are abusing the excess power that the flawed electoral system gave them, and even lie to our faces about how our democracy works. We need an electoral system overhaul...
capefeather 5 months ago
I don't like Harper but I also don't like giving lazy people money they don't need so really there's a not a whole lot of choice other than voting for independents.
DolzhenkoPavel 5 months ago
@DolzhenkoPavel "lazy people" That's a destructive greedy stereotype. When you've hit rock bottom because of a mental illness, because you were born in a poor family, have an addiction or tons of other problems. Then you'll be on the other end not bitching (because no one is going to listen to you) but begging on the other end. It was never easy to become middle class from being dirt poor especially with with past experiences that are negative.
finnsia 5 months ago
@finnsia You obviously are an idiot if you associate mentally or physically disabled people as laziness. I don't want any of my tax dollars paying for someone's drug or alcohol habit. Welfare should be regulated, drugs tests done ect,
DolzhenkoPavel 5 months ago
@DolzhenkoPavel Calling me an idiot all of a sudden? How is that supposed to help any intellectual discourse? The diserving poor concept is what you've clearly displayed in your comment. The thinking is as primitive as thinking the Earth is flat. Unfortunately socially people haven't evolved as much. I agree welfare should be regulated however there aren't many lazy people. Most hit rock bottom and can't get out. And you or anyone else supporting that are truely lazy won't help the economy.
finnsia 5 months ago
@finnsia The only thing displayed is how out of touch with reality you are. "there aren't many lazy people". Yes, there are. You have either never stepped outside or you yourself are lazy. Coming from an immigrant growing up in a low-income neighborhood and and now working with small businesses I can say without a doubt there are vast amounts of people who abuse the system ALL the time. Please stop replying to me, you misinterpreted my original comment and now you're just rambling.
DolzhenkoPavel 5 months ago
@DolzhenkoPavel No, you misinterpreted by response and now you're just rambling. Ha. Your condesending insults will get you nowhere. I work with "lazy people"as a career. I also have to tell them about the generalizations and stereotypes that people like yourself create.
finnsia 5 months ago
@finnsia No. Never in my comments did I make generalizations that you're assuming I made. I said LAZY people NOT POOR, I never said nor implied that poor=lazy. You fucking idiot please reread my comments and tell me where I implied that. I actually believe social assistance are important you dumbass, my original comment was regarding tax dollars not being given to the LAZY for misuse. You ASSUMED I meant all people on welfare are LAZY which I did NOT. Do you understand now? LOL Idiot.
DolzhenkoPavel 5 months ago
@DolzhenkoPavel You made more juvenile insults than a student in an elementary school. When you can add something intellectual to the discussion then you can respond back.
finnsia 5 months ago
@finnsia LOL There is no discussion, you made wild assumptions, misinterpreted what I said and then refused to admit it; repeatedly. Idiot.
DolzhenkoPavel 5 months ago
@DolzhenkoPavel You had also admitted to what you did yourself.
finnsia 5 months ago
@ktm144blitz Nice to see that you have such an educated response to my youtube comment, regardless you're entitled to your opinion and so am I. It's a youtube video, cheer up and go do something productive :)
GlassEyeTiger 5 months ago
Lets overthrow the Canadian Government and elect Justin Trudea as the Head Beaver. His Assistant Beaver can be Rick. I think it'll work!! Lets try it!!!!
HardRokMiner 5 months ago
I think we should go back to an honest dictatorship. Me for el presidente!
saismatters 5 months ago
We need to change the electoral system to proportional representation.
thedayeforchange 5 months ago 3
As long as we still have more than two parties in the end.
arsenelupin123 5 months ago
39% is not a democracy it's a pseudo-dictatorship. Real democratic reform or REVOLUTION!!
PixelDansIronFist 5 months ago 22
@PixelDansIronFist now now, don't get ahead of yourself. Or you'll find yourself revolting against everything.
have some sense will ya?
hecdc 5 months ago
@PixelDansIronFist That would actually make sense if we were Americans. Canada isn't a democracy; we're a constitutional monarchy. We have a democratic process to elect representatives to parliament, but beyond that, it's up to the Queen/GG to determine which party has the confidence of parliament, and thus is best suited to lead the country.
You need to retake civics, bro.
toooooooooooooooool 5 months ago
@PixelDansIronFist That would actually make sense if we were Americans. Canada isn't a democracy; we're a constitutional monarchy. We have a democratic process to elect representatives to parliament, but beyond that, it's up to the Queen/GG to determine which party has the confidence of parliament, and thus is best suited to lead the country.
You need to retake civics, bro.
toooooooooooooooool 5 months ago
@toooooooooooooooool Try me again when the GG doesn't have Harper in his back pocket, and the Queen doesn't ignore Harper violating the Constitution.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner lolololol
evidence?
toooooooooooooooool 5 months ago
@PixelDansIronFist no, 39% is a democracy. If it wasnt a democracy there wouldnt be 61% of voters voting elsewhere.
TheTeaBiskit 5 months ago in playlist More videos from MercerReport
Rather then merge the left, we just need to convince the conservatives to split up their party somehow :P
Yuebo 5 months ago 2
Well-said Rick, but i'll tell you why this is fucking bullshit - because if the leftest of parties (NDP) had won the majority, no one would have even DARED suggest that the right-wing and center-right parties merge (in this case Conservatives and Liberals). It's insulting because it's assuming that because neither parties' (NDP and Liberal) POV's are really all that extreme, that they can be a little lax and not be so fiercely and staunchly dedicated to their beliefs.
inthewolf 5 months ago
Not too hot on the idea, to be honest. I'd rather have another mainstream right-wing party, so that everyone has an alternative in case their party of choice becomes corrupt or incompentent in some way. I kind of feel sorry for progressive people in the US, as their Democratic president bows to the Republicans almost all the time. Meanwhile, intellectually honest conservatives only have a corrupt and stupid party to vote for.
LordOfFreedom 5 months ago
the only ones talking about a "merger" are the liberals because their party is dead... the NDP is doing just fine on its own thank you.
moeguy222 5 months ago
Actually, one last thing that should be OBVIOUS...
The majority of the people HATE HARPER'S GUTS. It is mathematically impossible to call ~35% of the recorded vote, a majority (especially when most people didn't bother to vote at all).
It's fine to disagree, but when you're trying to tell us that black is white, and that rain is dry, you only make yourself look like an idiot.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner lol rhetoric and misunderstanding of our political system is not a valid argument, try again this time without the blatant fallacies junior.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
Oh Southpark...
What is so hard to understand? Harper WASTED OUR MONEY ON JUNK. Harper OBSTRUCTED A TORTURE PROBE. Harper SUPPORTED AN MP WHO FORGED A FUNDING DOCUMENT. Harper DIDN'T SEE THE RECESSION COMING. Harper's party TRIED TO STEAL A BALLOT BOX. Harper's party TRIED TO SEND VOTERS TO THE WRONG POLLING STATIONS. Harper's supporters REGULARLY THREATEN ANYONE WHO CRITICIZES THEIR HERO.
Harper WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR G20. Enough said.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner See that reply button beside my name? Try clicking it next time retard.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner More baseless claims, appeals to emotion and illogical ramblings of a madman. Let's see if you can actually form a coherent thought this time, but then again, most pinko scum usually have no IQs, it's pretty much a requirement to be indoctrinated in a cult.
Derp how dare a leader of a country host a trade summit with other economic power houses, how dare he bring us out of the recession better than 90% of the rest of the world.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 It's baseless to point out that Harper wasted a RECORD amount of money on a glorified photo op? And to rub it in, had people banged up and arrested, who had broken no laws?
BTW what do you think of Harper wasted $90K a day to read a fucking spread sheet?
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 It's baseless to point out that Harper wasted a RECORD amount of money on a glorified photo op? And to rub it in, had people banged up and arrested, who had broken no laws?
BTW what do you think of Harper wasted $90K a day to read a fucking spread sheet?
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner And the liberals wasted 1 Billion dollars on a registry of law abiding citizens, then their liberal police force commenced to harass and jail them for simply having the temerity of owning a means of self defence.
Until you can prove that Harper actually had people arrested for no reason(which is an impossibility as the Prime minister does not command any police force), you can please stop claiming your fantasies to be fact.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 Maybe you didn't read the news, but the Harper government openly acknowledged that the PMO was in charge of G20 security. That means that they either ordered or commended everything the cops did, including beating and jailing people who didn't do anything wrong.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 Oh and BTW the Liberals only burned a billions bucks ONCE -- something you condemn. Yet you are totally fine with Harper doing that REPEATEDLY.
That's called "hypocrisy".
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
We shall merge and TAKE OVER THE WORLD. Or make make a better country. Either way...
thelasthorcruxx 5 months ago 3
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Canada no longer has a government as it has been Hijacked by a Terrorist Government called: The Harper Government. We all remember what happened in 1945 to a former German Dictator. Dictatorial Governments all end very badly. O,...and Let's keep watching the Stock Market.....lol
TheSilverWatch 5 months ago 3
@TheSilverWatch Yeah because when the world economy collapses people are going to be so eager to trade for your silver and not just take it, you imbecile.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 thank-you for making me laugh....You've just been Trolled.
TheSilverWatch 5 months ago
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@TheSilverWatch No i haven't, you're to stupid to even know what the word means.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
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Canada no longer has a government as it has been Hijacked by a Terrorist Government called: The Harper Government. We all remember what happened in 1945 to a former German Dictator. Dictatorial Governments all end very badly. O,...and Let's keep watching the Stock Market.....lol
TheSilverWatch 5 months ago 3
As things are with first past the post, it seems that's the only choice.
Id really prefer some kind of alternate voting system tho, like preferential voting. Not like that's ever gonna happen under the conservatives.
pykezer 5 months ago
I don't think merger will work. I was campaigning for the Liberals door to door this year, and I hear a crapload (20%+) of people who are usually Liberal saying they will vote Conservative just to prevent a NDP government.
jincongz 5 months ago
@jincongz I'd rather a Liberal than an NDP to, the NDP is notorious for destroying business and ruining economies. Just look at what they did to the equipment industry in Ontario.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
merger would be great, but i guess i can live with NDP and Liberal having a formal alliance and they choose one common candidates for each ridings. so that means each ridings will have either a ndp candidates or lib, but not both and thus preventing the votes split.
mikiimai 5 months ago
Welll since we'd still technically have four parties I'm down with that. Better than being miserable in the world of Harper.
GlassEyeTiger 5 months ago 30
@GlassEyeTiger...preach the world brother. WOOOOH
sugarrothie 5 months ago
@GlassEyeTiger
idiot
ktm144blitz 5 months ago
It'll take more than a six-pack. You'll need a 40 of rye.
slavitch 5 months ago
Clearly a majority of Canadians want the conservatives to win... otherwise they wouldnt have voted them a majority...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper 39,6% of the popular vote, you call that a majority?
sonic2277 5 months ago 2
@sonic2277 YES. In this country, we use first past the post. If you dont like it, either
a) Leave for somehwere that uses AV or list elections
or b) campaign for a referendum to use AV instead of FPTP
QCprepper 5 months ago
@sonic2277 Not sure if im replying twice to you by mistake... if so sorry. Having said that, in this country we use First Past the Post. If you dont like it, you can either leave, lobby to change to list based direct elections, AV or whatever other system you want, or shut up about it...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper So you like the FPP system? I wonder if around 1993-2006 you did as well.
sonic2277 5 months ago
@sonic2277 Actually most Conservatives respect the democracy of this country, It's the liberals that hate freedom and the voting, they only like democracy when it means they're in control. Why do you hate Canada so much?
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 I think it's the same for every canadian of every party. And I don't hate Canada, I hate 39,6% of its citizens when it comes to vote.
sonic2277 5 months ago 2
@sonic2277 Because you don't like Democracy, you only like being in control, you actually hate democracy, like many leftists do.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 So if any party except for the Tories was in power, you would hate democracy as well?
sonic2277 5 months ago 13
@sonic2277 No, I've never in past, nor do I intend to in the future. I'm not immature and vindictive like the pinko trash that pollutes our fair country.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@QCprepper Or because the Conservatives planned the win.
AllRequired 5 months ago
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a hate spewing nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper You can't reason with them, if you could reason with a leftists, there wouldn't be leftists. They don't base their ideas on logic, they only think with emotion, that's why that one guy is basically claiming that Harper is killing people. He doesn't know anything more than "Harper isn't Liberal, I must hate Harper". It's what he's been programmed to think.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
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@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a hate spewing nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other pinko non-sense is making the rounds these days...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other non-sense is making the rounds these days...
QCprepper 5 months ago
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@AllRequired See that right there is what i hate about you leftists. If a liberal wins an election and a conservative claims vote fraud, you liberals call him a nay sayer who cant lose gracefully. But when a conservative wins, the very same leftists invariably say it must be vote fraud. It couldnt possibly be people actually like conservatism; it must be an Illuminati plot of whatever other non-sense is making the rounds these days...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@AllRequired Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won.
QCprepper 5 months ago
@AllRequired Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won. lose the hipocracy and maybe more Canadians will vote for you...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper But that wasn't a random act that came out of the blue. It was a direct result of a properly planned premeditated campaign centered around a leader whose team knew exactly what they were doing every step of the way. Harper's team set out to manipulate the minds and hearts of the voters in such a way that the votes would go to him. Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it.
AllRequired 5 months ago
@QCprepper 24% of the country's vote is a majority? Especially for a party that has already cheated its way into office at least once?
BoredomCorner 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner
39.62% actually, but I'll forgive your blatant lie.
It's extremely simply division, 39.62% when split among 5 subjects who have divided the remainder amongst themselves in a way that results in lower percentages, is a majority. How you passed grade 5 math I will never know, your two dimensional thinking is laughable.
Furthermore, that last bit is unfounded slander, prove such a claim, slander is commonplace among democracy and freedom hating individuals like yourself.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 39.62% of the 61.1% voter turnout = 24.3%.
oldben101 5 months ago in playlist More videos from MercerReport
@oldben101 If people are too apathetic to vote, then they dont count when you tally popular vote, sorry there pal... try a less facetious way of doctoring your data...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper Um...I didn't doctor anything. I just showed you some simple math. Are you saying the math is false? You do not need to explain to me how our electoral system "works." (It doesn't) That's why Rick Mercer is saying what he's saying, and a majority of Canadians agree with him.
oldben101 5 months ago
@oldben101
and only 18.7% voted for the NDP
and only 11.5% voted for the liberals
and only 3% for the Bloc
and a whopping 2% for the Green
Derp, I can use intentionally misleading and dishonest statistics to.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 How is showing you a simple math equation misleading and dishonest? I was just trying to show you how BoredomCorner came up with his/her number. Misleading Dishonest? Try looking in the mirror.
oldben101 5 months ago 2
@oldben101 It is dishonest, because it implies that the numbers are not relative. News reporters would lose their jobs for saying that it's so dishonest.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 The point is, Harper was NOT elected by a majority of Canadians. Anyone who can read a dictionary gets that, so for you to not get it means you're an idiot. For you to not care, means you're an asshole who has no place "teaching" us anything.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago 2
@BoredomCorner I'll explain how this works in small words so as not to hurt your head, ok little guy?
You fail to understand the electoral system at all, Yes some people did not vote for the Conservative government, but more people did vote for them than did not. You are blind to anyone other than yourself, you discount 40% of the population in favour of 30%, that is undemocratic.
You are only whining because you're not in control, and you hate the freedoms this country stands for.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000
Just a suggestion - maybe you should do a little research before posting: Of the people who voted May 2nd...39% voted for Harper (that's a little over a third in case you aren't sure) and 61% of those who voted DID NOT vote for Harper (that's a little short of 2/3 ). Harper won a majority of SEATS but he was a long way from getting a majority of votes. Sometimes I just got to shake my head....
newtothenorthshore 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000
Just a suggestion - maybe you should do a little research before posting: Of the people who voted May 2nd...39% voted for Harper (that's a little over a third in case you aren't sure) and 61% of those who voted DID NOT vote for Harper (that's a little short of 2/3 ). Harper won a majority of SEATS but he was a long way from getting a majority of votes. Sometimes I just got to shake my head....
newtothenorthshore 5 months ago
@newtothenorthshore yeah, and 70% didn't vote for the NDP, and 82% didn't vote for the Liberals. There you Leftists go again, more intentionally dishonest statistics. Maybe you should do a little research next time.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@BoredomCorner Why is it that when a leftist wins an election, anyone who even suggests vote fraud is called all sorts of slanderous remarks, but when a conservative wins an election those same liberals are out screaming how the election must have been fixed or they would have won. Plus in this country we use FPTP; if you dont like it, lobby for AV, leave, or stop moaning about it frankly...
QCprepper 5 months ago
@QCprepper Because Liberals actually hate democracy and liberty, they only like it when they're in charge, not when the People are in charge; and they'll use fear, coercion and intellectual fraud to get what they want.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@QCprepper @Southparker100000000 That's funny, I don't remember Liberals throwing anyone out of their campaign stops, or refusing to talk to the press. Nor has any member of the Liberal party tried to tell me that I'm a traitor for not supporting the Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, the Harperites sick the RCMP and their own troublemakers on anyone with a brain, cuts brake lines of Lib supporters, etc.
BoredomCorner 5 months ago 2
@BoredomCorner What is it about freedom you hate so much? Why do you hate the democracy this country was founded on?
"the Harperites sick the RCMP and their own troublemakers on anyone with a brain, cuts brake lines of Lib supporters, etc."
Oh, more lies, honestly it doesn't surprise me that you'd be emotionally unstable and paranoid, most recluses with very low IQs are.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
@Southparker100000000 Nearly every time the Libs are in power, they turn deficits into surpluses. Every time the Tories are in power, the opposite happens.
Oh, and about these "arctic threats" you speak of... how are the F-35s going to defend us from them, when they don't even have the RANGE to work in the arctic? If those planes are so good, WHY DOES NO ONE ELSE WANT THEM?
BoredomCorner 5 months ago 2
@BoredomCorner Nice, putting words in my mouth, I have not said a single thing about arctic threats, more dishonesty from the communist menace. Although concerning your issue they do in fact have range, and we have aerial refuelling planes for long distance patrols. Other countries do not want them because many already have up to date fighter craft, unlike us. And the fact that they F-35s are new technology scares some defence organizations.
Southparker100000000 5 months ago
that's some damn sweet graffiti back there. maybe rick actually pays guys to repaint one wall over and over again haha
QofLife69 5 months ago
Yes Rick :) ps Canada isn't America
ArenThomasian 5 months ago
Do we really want a 2 party system?
majeric 5 months ago 35
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
TheAce1082 5 months ago
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@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
TheAce1082 5 months ago
@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
TheAce1082 5 months ago
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@majeric no we don't. look at the 2 party system in the U.S. Its a disaster. Not everyone is represented and you get offspring like the Tea Party that represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And you get liberals in the Democratic Party having no representation because Obama is really just a centrist president.
TheAce1082 5 months ago