the more dead you leave us the more warriors we recruit. The Sas like Paisley before them are the best recruitment officers of the IRA. Thank you ;0))
you are all missing the point. the British state that the SAS are only used in wartime. They continually deny they used the SAS in the WAR in Ireland and that it is an internal conflict. Irish men and women knew the risk and accepted said risk when they joijned the fight. to claim otherwise belittles their sacrifice. How can the British claim it was not a war when they used their special forces to fight it. And the executions of combatants while they where already in custody .......
The SAS or the Boat Service or even the Royal Marine MAWC are the best trained and hardest fighters on EARTH....BUT they comprise of (and always will) 50% thuggish morons and 50% who could have been university professors. They are shock-troops and have no place in any environment other than to collect intelligence. Putting them in an urban guerilla role whether in Ireland or Afghanistan is suicide.
i'll say it again, august 2007, british army quote:we cannot deafeat the IRA a political solution must be found. october 2007 british army was called home.
i think your deluding only your self you dick the IRA ...ammo check camouflage jacket check balaclava check spare per of knickers in case we come across a SAS OR SBS checkpoint check.... no one said anything about any SAS OR SBS ...errrr ok lads i wont be able to make the patrol tonight err am washing my hair...lol IRA fucking cash machine robbers nothing more
your deluding only your self you dick the IRA going out on a patrol...ammo check..camouflage jacket check...balaclava check.
spare per of knickers in case we come across a SAS OR SBS checkpoint....check
errr no one said any thing about the SAS OR SBS errr i cant make the patrol tonight lads am errr washing my hair sorry lads ...fucking IRA nothing more than cash machine robbers lmao
I wouldn't exactly call them pussies....and I'm a shinner. No the SAS are intelligent, resourceful and ruthless. But they are also the wrong unit for the job as are most military units. Look at the situation. Paras are basically airborne infantry...useless in N.I. except to commit atrocities. The SAS are specialized in long range reconnaisance gathering...again useless in N.I.
Therein lies the rub. The SAS are not trained in urban combat....why? Because they've already been trained in it as regular soldiers before applying to join the service. But urban combat has many variations. Are we talking all out building to building stuff like Stalingrad or low-level, ongoing, monotonous unpredictable shit with the trappings of everday normalcy like Belfast. It's impossible to train for the latter.
The ability to fight room to room is still highly useful. If the IRA is holed up in a building, the SAS would be able to handle them much more effectively than a normal army unit.
14 Int done that very well for 20 years in N/Ireland m8 and the SAS worked very closly with these guys-have read that 14 int was in the same League as the Isreali Mossad for thier survallance skills so that statement has no substance,as for Urban combat have you ever heard of the SAS "killing House" I dont think you know how well trained these guys realy are
...cont,. guerilla warfare cannot be contained by conventional military means. Take Baghdad. You've got Abrams battletanks trundling around the city. What the fuck use are they except to crush people's cars and roll over kids playing soccer. Maybe they have a psychological effect but it's usually a negative one.
Ask yourself this question. If you are a member of a guerilla resistance outfit against what you know to be ruthless, vicious and well trained killers who are roaming your streets looking for you ... what do you do? You don't sit in a fucking room with codes and plans and maps, you idiot. You make yourself as inconspicuous as possible. You become a "nobody". You leave the country for a few weeks.
You come back and wait......you wait for Christmas to come and go. You wait for soldiers to have a New Year's bash. You follow them and then you detonate a massive truck bomb. You probably kill nobody but you've just broken the spirit of that platoon and all soldiers within who just want to be back in Coventry or Hull snuggled up with their wives/girlfriends.
"shoot to kill?"...WHAT IS THE ISSUE HERE? Of course you kill these pieces of shit. ..Of course the other side says they are innocent, ..what do you expect them to do..admit the truth about themselves?
Gotta love the Irish whining on and on for years about this trash.. Get a fvcking life..
mogroov their fucin was inisent people killed in straban i live in strabane and the sas and the british army use to kill inisent people all the time cause they were fuckin murderers
and leady73 how do u stop a sas soildier... give him a cup of tea and put the cricket on the tele
and that guy nick in this vid is wrong they were never terrifide by the sas scumbags who would be affreid of bugtooth basterds like them
Oh yeah real scary they were the RUC`S bitches and the RUC were the biggest scumbag filled police force in europe and the little SAS done what they were told like the good little cock suckers the are
sas could not defeat south armagh brigade fact ,francis hughes fucked one and wounded another fact angelo fusco blew wescotts head and shoulder off fact. two where killed in cappagh fact. the ira killed lots of undercover soldiers fact .the sas are as soft as shit
@toughload Talk more shite why dont you, the sas are trained and can deal with any situation, trained to survive in any place on earth, can fight in jungle to deserts, are the top 1% of the fittest people on the planet
The ira used there own rules, they where joe bloggs one minute, and the ira the next, they where the ones who where shit bags, the ira are just normal men who can pull a trigger, lets see them go and fight and survive and fight somone lese war on the other side of the world
Catch yourself on,if the truth was known the IRA was shit scared of coming across the SAS and what these highly trained Special Forces unit are capable of,lets face it these boys are the best in the world at what they do ,you must be off your head to think the South Armargh PIRA where remotely in the same League as these boys lol,
Francis Hughes got lucky,very lucky-the SAS thought these two guys where UDR soldiers, catching them off guard and exposing themselves-without the trickery one on one do you realy think he would of stood half a chance against these men
And what you missed out about Belfast Angelo fusco siege fiasco is that the SAS was given the wrong address for where the PIRA ASU was located and stormed the wrong house ,hense why Willcott got shot ,proving my earlier point once these brave IRA men realised the SAS where coming for them they shit themselves and surrendered as soon as they could to the army without putting up a further fight ,over a 30 year long period every dog will have its day
@leady73 What is your point? To not be worried about them would mean you are ignorant of THEIR intentions and training. Scared....? Maybe, but the IRA don't seem like much scares them to me, or they wouldn't have been taking on the struggle they have taken on. Are you man enough to put your life on the line against forces better trained and out gunning you? If not, you should probably be quiet about what scares who.
Only 10? Shame. By the way congratulations on spelling at least three words correctly in your bullshit sentence, although i like the freudian slip up on the word innocent. Innocent my arse.
it was actually 13 i hit the wrong key, the saval(british lead) enquiry into the killings judged that every man/child on that day was innoncent....have you tried any of them robert nairac sausages hahaha meat machine was too good for the prick!!and a couple of weeks after the shootings in derry 18soldiers got at narrow water...army scum...
you call this success 800 IRA voluteers against 35000 brittish and use still couldnt beat them yea rite weres the success in that and BY THE WAY IN THE WORDS OF THAT GREAT TRIATOR ADAMS THEY HAVENT GONE AWAY U NO peace out TIOCFAIDH AR LA
true they did fuck off but they left after paying socalled republicans to do there dirty work and now they adminster brittish rule on the brits behalf quite smart really BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE A WOKEN TO THIS SHAM
I'm a Norwegian with limited knowledge on this issue. But I can't see why one nation should occupy a part of its neighbour. What are british doing in socalled "Northern-Ireland"? Its just as weird as if Norway occupied a bit of Sweden in spite of local opposition. If Americans had'nt fought a guerilla campaign - like IRA - in the 17th century, USA would'nt have existed today.. People have a right to fight for freedom, and when they oppose a superpower like Britain, they are really brave!
Let me enlighten you, my Norwegian friend. The majority of the population in Northern Ireland are protestant loyalists, that is they would rather be a part of Britain. The Catholic republican minority had been trying to force their will on the majority of the people of Northern Ireland, who do NOT want to be a part of the Republic of Ireland. Though I am not British, I will always salute the brave actions of British troops around the world.
Imagine that Norwegians that were nazis and traitors after the war moved into a special county i Norway, creating a subculture there. If the Germans didn't loose the war the way they did and still had some influence. Should the rest of Norway accept a little "(Nazi)Northern Norway" under German rule? The local people in "Nortern Norway" would of course prefer to be protected by Germany. But this is still an illegitimate occupation, and Northern Ireland should become part of the Irish republic..
britian had occupied the hole of Eire until the 1916Rising, 'the easter rising'. part of a truce in 1921 a treaty was signed so that the north of ireland would remain under british occupation. the man who signed that, micheal collins was shot dead by his former comrades. collins knew when he signed this that he had signed his own death warrant. the IRA want Britian completely out of Ireland. people say that the majority of 'northern ireland' is protestant, but the majority of Ireland is Catholic
To clarify - you said that the SAS refused to go to XMG because the sniper was active.
Yet while the sniper was active units were patrolling round the slum as normal. Thats the point about the British Army in NI - they didnt hide, triggering IEDs from safe little hidey holes then running back across the border.
As you say, dont talk about what you dont know. Cock.
No, instead the Brits like to fire Cruise missiles at Iraq and use predator drones in Afghan from thousands of miles away and then hide behind the Americans.
I wonder why the prods and the Caths. dont get a long. I understan wanting to fight the birtish. But why fight pods to. Dont tell me that Caths and pods cant get along look at my country. In America prods and Caths live side by side. They even mary each other. My father is Irish Cath. and my mom is Scotch and Irish Prod. I guess I just dont understand. Yes I am Irish American. If you ever visted America you will find that they are lots and lots of Irish here. Many of them are Police and fireman.
Have your IRA deliberately murdered "non combatants", or not?
Now, do please try and follow. I used the term "recent" in regards to your statement "The IRA do not murder non combatants.". As your IRA have murdered "non combatants" as recently as 15 years ago, I would consider that to be "recent" history. Get it now son?
Was the question of telling me where I have displayed my "ignorance and denial of British atrocities" to difficult for you?
The IRA does not murder non-combatants. A combatant is any representitive of the british government, police force, army, loyalist paramilitaries and any other enemy of the irish people.
As long as the british defile Irish soil with their presence they will be targets.
Innocent bystanders are a sad and unfotunate casualty of every war.
The SAS have killed innocent bystanders in their operations also.
Is that easy enough for your limited inbred loyalist brain to understand?
Damn. You really do live in a bubble of denial. Sad. Very sad.
Maybe for a minute you could consider not regurgitating what you want to hear. Hold on. No. That could lead to you having an original thought. Heaven forbid that should happen. You carry on believing what you want to believe son. You are obviously devoid of the capacity to think beyond the end of your nose. As the world leaves you and your stagnant ilk behind, I for one will be smiling broadly.
They British royal family are nothing but the putrid offspring of a long line of murdering thieves. They hang empty titles about their necks and cloak themselves with words like "nobility" and "grace" but nothing can remove the stench of their ancestors.
As they are expelled by the people they have brutalized for centuries and pushed back to the insignificant cesspool they call a country, it pleases me to know the Irish will have the honor of sticking in the last dagger.
you know what midnightrambler you might actually be right! there might even be an element of truth in everything you say! BUT HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN A SHOPPING CENTRE RESPONISBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE BEFORE THEM! fucking IRA pig
You said "The IRA do not murder non combatants". You are either a lier or you actually know little of the IRA. Your IRA have deliberately targeted and murdered "non combatants" haven't they. Surely you agree?
In one sentence you dismiss the lives of 2 children. Your contempt for life is as shameful as your ignorance, or your denial, of your IRA acts.
ok actually talk to a guy whos from belfast it was to do with the IRA wanting NI to join the republic and leave britian and the other british countries deployed british army, SAS and even australian SASR to take action
The IRA are terrorists because they do not fight for a legally recognized government and because their tactics are fairly indiscriminate. The IRA fights on without coming close to achieving any sort of victory. The SAS are special forces, and honestly its laughable that the IRA claims to be an army and demands POW status yet call the SAS murderers when they kill the 'soldiers' of the self-proclaimed 'Oglaigh na hEireann' while in the process of launching attacks in a war the IRA declared.
The British government can't be terrorists, as they are responsible for maintaining law and order. And yes, French Resistance could have legally been defined as terrorists. The difference with the American colonists is that they fought a conventional war with a conventional army, with both sides generally following the accepted rules of war. The IRA's tactics are indiscriminate. Terrorist doesn't necessarily imply that one's cause is unjust, but it does mean undermining law and order.
So the Irish people should just lie down and accept an illegal occupation so they don't upset the delicate British "law and order". The Irish people have felt the sharp end of British law and order for centuries.
How can the IRA possibly fight a conventional war when they would be jailed for 20 years for even carrying a gun.
An army uses whatever tactics it has at it's disposal. If the British don't like it they can leave at any time.
Firstly the IRA do not represent the Irish people. Secondly it may surprise you that few people in the Republic of Ireland want the North back in the short term if at all. Thirdly the IRA want to be treated as soldiers and POW's so why complain if they will be taken prison when identified. The IRA has no hope of pressuring the British Army into leaving, the British are perhaps the most stubborn and stoic people on the planet. In the IRA's case its more the bomb than the gun in recent times.
Do British soldiers get arrested for the posession of a firearm? Are british soldiers dragged out of their beds in the middle of the night? Are there homes searched?
It is not a level playing field. The IRA can only use the tactics that are available to them. They have been fighting for decades and will continue to fight.
In no war will the troops of one side allowed enemy soldiers to go about their business unmolested. If the IRA are soldiers than of course they will be either killed or taken prisoner if under arms. If they aren't soldiers then they should be arrested and charged with possession of a firearm. Of course British troops shouldn't be arrested for carrying firearms, they are the army in Northern Ireland. The IRA have not achieved much more than the Adoo, nor are they likely too.
Exactly, it is not a conventional war, there are no rules. They IRA will strike when and where they see fit. Any british soldier or any symbol of the illegal British occupancy is a target.
You call the IRA terrorists, I call the british army and the british government terrorists. I call the royal family and their ancestors the biggest gang of criminals in history.
What you call a terrorist act I call an action for freedom. What you call a terrorist I call a freedom fighter
Actually, the British sovereignty of Northern Ireland is recognized in international law. The IRA fight unscrupulously anyway. You don't really know what a terrorist is. Other than that, just don't call the SAS 'terrorists' and 'murdering scum' etc. when you are up to the same thing yourself. And don't whinge when they shoot you down while you are in the process of killing others.
Actually its quite unscrupulous to blow up bombs regardless of whether they will kill the British soldiers, Unionist civilians or Nationalist civilians. The IRA aren't actively defending anything. The SAS are elite and highly disciplined soldiers and the world's foremost special forces unit. I guess the IRA are jealous that an ASU got slaughtered at Loughgall.
Typical loyalist has trouble thinking straight with his head inserted firmly in his arse.
Why do the SAS wear masks if they are so honorable? becasue they want to hide their identities. Why? Because they are scared shit the IRA will catch up to them.
SAS only wear masks on hostage rescue operations, so they haven't worn them against the IRA. The masks are to protect them from tear gas, CS, etc. The only point proved by 'slaughtered' is that the IRA were roundly outmaneuvered and beaten by the SAS. Typical Republican too much of a culchy to realize that the IRA don't enjoy divine right. The Irish Army slaughtered the IRA in the Civil War as well in 1922-23. My grandfather raised the Irish tricolor over Youghal after they drove out the IRA.
The SAS have the full funding of the British government and the support of the british army, police forces etc. 1922-1923 and the IRA are still fighting. No
*sigh* You do all know that Northern Ireland votes in every general election right? As members yourselves of a democracy I would assume that you would understand that given a majority vote to retain the union (with the UK), that's what comes to pass. The question then is not why 'it's not given back', but rather, how to arrange things that the people there vote alternatively. JEEZ.
So called Northern Ireland today may have a marginal, manufactured majority in the carved out 6 counties. Remember this took years of British direct rule to cultivate. Northern Ireland was initially gutted as a 9 county state but this didn't swing a majority for unionists in the north. The blatant employment of Gerrymandering took place here, and they just kept trimming until they drew a border that suited them. Can I put that on my voting card.
As an American and reading these comments and seeing where you guys stand is in your ways right. My uncles are part of Ireland and have served in the IRA though they don't talk about it really and I wont ask. But Ireland does deserve freedom and its the truth. Sas was good in Ireland but the IRA also had more support. Sas vs Ira is like for example: An unstoppable force vs and in movable object. Both are trained and very deadly in there own right.
Typical American/ Irish, Ireland Deserves its freedom what about the Protestant community who want to stay part of the UK. Uncles part of the IRA but dont talk about it how do you know they were a part of it, IRA KNEW THEY COULD NOT WIN THATS WHY THEY HAD A CEASE FIRE
Hm you know your comment just shows how negative you are. And Ireland does deserve freedom my friend. Scotland got there's , America got theres, so what about ireland. And yes they were but like I said they don't talk about it. And Ira isn't gone buddy there still fighting but the one your talking about is the PIRA. The new ira just had a riot do I say there still. So I don't know why you just can't let a country have freedom, but then again you don't have a very opened mind do you.
Deathnotekeeper, you need to understand why Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK. It's a democratic choice for gods sake, it has nothing to do with what soldiers want, what politicians want, what the UK wants. They VOTE there ok? It's so ignorant peddling the view that they don't have freedom, if the majority elected Sinn Feinn then your 'freedom' would come to pass. The problem is, unionists will never vote for anything other than retention of the union with the UK. Read about it.
A majority of people really couldn't care. More Unionists then Republicans though. (Britain attempted to set N.I of with Home rule but the Unionists threatened war. British Government ignored the Unionists and thus war began.)
It was a fucked up war that shouldn't of happened. Both sides had murderous bastards in it. A lot of people in Britain who were in it won't talk about it. Both sides are to blame, and it was innocent civilians who suffered.
The guy mentions IRA were terrified! Even to this day the brits have limited knowledge of irish republicanism albeit whatever they have learned they putting to limited use in iraq etc! For every IRA volunteer gunned down the IRA had to turn away 90% of possible recruiters such was peoples anger at their loss! You shoot 8, 500 will come forward! Tiocfaidh ar la
Or does it mention numerous SAS casulties inlicted by the volunteer army of the IRA whos conviently "got killed or injured in training exercises in germany"
furthermore this programme is extemly misleading in its examples of SAS force. There is numerous examples of them without so called "yellow cards" as in 15yr innocent kid in Dunloy gunned down by SAS.Brave men then lied in his inquest
As an rish republican and an IRA supporter i have no problem with Brit soldiers attacking Active sevice units of the IRA. Problem was Brit gov refused to recognize that they were fighting a war and that irish revolutionaries where in fact "ordainry criminals" not involved in political violence but what the brits deemed their "criminalisation" policy! So if they werent fighting a war why were they gunning down so called "criminals".
At least you are honest enough not to whine about British 'murderers' gunning down IRA men who want to be recognized as soldiers when the IRA are in the process of launching attacks.
All languages where once made up from different languages coming into one, the english language just happens to be one of the newest to come together from different languages. You think one day someone sits there and goes ' i know what i will do today! ill make a new language! ' . Please, dont say stupid things, your a teenager arn't you?
They are, when a force relies on using terror tactics the title Terrosist follows suit. Where do you think the word terrorist came from? some Arabians screaming Allah? It been around since the dawn of man, just not with explosives and plane jackings etc.
just shows how little you know about ireland. my mum has an ulster-scots name,ulster-scots have been in the west coast of scotland and ulster since before st patrick (scotti tribe. hence scotland). this is basic stuff you should have a little knowledge about ireland when you claim"i'm very proud of my irish heritage" when really all your proud of is fairytales.this is exactly why we are having this conversation in the first place.wow you can name four in 82 million, not liking that average haha
ammm at what point did i say im anything other than irish? it really funny how you confuse yourself, you should know irish girls are ugly, half your familys from here hahahaha, you've changed your tune one minute you love ireland next minute your slagging it off, not very patriotic hahahaha. ive never in my life seen a beautiful german.....
its not slang, go look up the definition of slang on wikipedia and get back to me simpleton. its an abbreviation little nazi-boy. im not the one speaking german on an english language sight here, probably the gayest, and definately the ugliest language ever spoken!hahahahahaha.
who is arguing about ireland being irish?! confusing, also you just made it clear you know nothing about it because that didnt happen. they didnt "move north" there has been a protestant majority in the north for 400 years, and they didnt want to be part of ireland. nobody moved anywhere. that such a twisted and distorted fairy-tale did your grandad who was in the 'RA (cough) tell you that one? the whole last 3 lines? didnt make any sense of it whatsoever. have you ever heard of punctuation?
we prefer to not wear anything stupid mate.if your sick talkin why did you write 3 full fucking comments. why dont you go look up the meaning of RETARD on wikipedia, 'cus you are one. usin fuck as an insult isn't exactly a new thing in case you havent noticed,the two sentences arent even slightly similar apart from the word fuck! hahaha that was such an obscure and pitiful attempt at tryin to catch me out like i caught you .irish gypsies are irish (clues in the name dickhead) they're from here.
aaahahaha YOU MORON! you actually did go onto wikipedia and looked up "fenianism" and copy and pasted it! did you really think you could get away with using the word "pejorative" after fully demonstrating your extremely weak grasp of the english language? ooooh brilliant insult at the end there, a fine demonstration of GCSE german...so very offended. why dont you go felch yer ma (google it) you lederhosen wearing fuck! takes more than a name to be irish you cock-muncher
proud fenianism IS patriotism you stupid fuck. you are the most retarded self-contadicting moron i have ever had the mis-pleasure of having a barely comprehensable arguement with, noone cares about your family tree, just fuck off back to nazi-land you hitler-worshiping faggot, fucking retard. dick. your not and never will be welcome here. faggot
No bellend, none of it is BS..It was called lets exterminate the IRA bastard scum. What a good game! Now then spetic, bugger orff theres a good chap. You will find someones leg to hump on the telly tubby videos!
did anyone ask for your family story dipshit? yer granda was a nazi and he raped your ma and had you. thats what i hear. you see my family dont go round making up stories about how they were so dedicated to the ra that they fucked off to england and had bastard children with nazis, sorry.
onmywaytothedarkside! what a fuckin dreamer keep it up ya potato lickin bitch!!! I.R.A bunch of fuckin cowards!!! p.s you know anyone sellin a cheap caravan???
" you sir are a coward" the midlde ages? of course you would do something about being "occupied" i mean, its not like germany was occupied by russia for the best part of 60 years or anything...wait...the only foreign body you would do something about is the big ten inch dildo you shove up your own anus . you live in a fantasy world, and trash talk ON THE INTERNET the real people of northern ireland when they refuse to accept you are in any way irish (which you aren't) your mediocrity amuses me.
"then we fuck of to out origins"- that literally makes no sense in my head im sorry. if it means "fuck off to our origins" then what happens to you ? do you split yourself in half?
your naivity shocks me. your english, and in all seriousness it doesn't matter what you wear or what you have tattooed on yourself, you would not last ten minutes anywere near the falls road, its not this little romantic picture you have in your head of a provo-run paradise its a nasty place to be, and one lick of an english accent and you'd be overrun by about thirty chav's in two minutes flat. i personally would find that hilerious but i wouldnt want to goad anyone into doing something stupid.
what an absolutely ridiculous statement..Naw totally man, i've lived in belfast my whole life...but you know way more about it than i do, you know two people who were so patriotic THEY MOVED TO ENGLAND sorry your sooo right. its ok to be ignorant, the fact that you broadcast this ignorance bothers me though. ask your "friend" what would happen to you if you went anywhere near the falls road with that pretty little london accent of yours! its funny though. you stupid little prick.
i send you greetings from Scotland, the Irish will always be our brothers!!!!! fuck England and FUCK ULSTER SCOTS IRISH IGNORANT BASTARD TRAITORS!!!!!! Irish famine? ethnic cleansing in the Scottish Highlands!!!!! enough said!!! Always my Celtic brother!!!!
nah man love to all haha noones done shit to me,raking up the distant past does noone any good. plus the large majority of my family is ulster-scots so i wouldnt be into slaggin them haha
well mate your not from here and i can tell you they fucking well are terrorists, as were the UFF UVF and any other paramilitary group you can think of. its easy for you to say they were freedom fighters you didnt have to worry that your mums/dads, brothers/sisters etc werent coming home that night. why don't you go play hide and go fuck yourself and stop talking about things you could never hope to understand you absolute wank-stain on the bedsheet of life. your from london! wise the fuck up.
I grew up as a catholic in N.I. I believe from history that americans are american because, at some point, they fought the british rule of their soil. While i do not condone what the IRA do, Ireland is still ruled by the same country that once ruled America. Would you be happy being american only in name while the british parliament decide what laws you have to obey?
That is not true all you have to do to solve that is ask Adams, McGuinness etc to take their seats at Westminister. Hey presto you then have a say in your own country it's called democracy. Like what the SDLP and Unionists do.
I can't help but feel though that if Obama had to sit in british parliament and put forward what he would like to do in his own country, and then have a foriegn democracy vote on it, americans woud be none to pleased. They don't sit in westminister becase it is the government of an occupying nation. Should iraq politicians be allowed to sit ini americas government and have a say on how america is run?
Ironic you should mention Iraq and NI in the same sentence. You are a nationalist and yet who occupies Iraq? Still to answer your question what about the Unionists? What about the SDLP? You could be a elected politician from any party in NI and have a full say in a democracy. However SF choose to just soak up the expenses instead. Besides the GFA was voted on across Ireland and this gives legitimacy to the Stormont assembly. A change to that status is possible if a majority wish it as per GFA.
When the COWARDS of the IRA get into a fight, where the other side is as ready as they are, it ends with the IRA being put out to the curb with the the rest of the daily rubbish.
Osama bin Laden, Hezbollah, Al Quita, & IRA; Same flock of cowardly sheep.
If you support one, you support them all
(and if you support any you are an uneducated, uninformed, and angry person).
Yea, an ambush by highly trained and well equipped special forces .. that's a fair fight.
One may not agree with the IRA (or rather its various factions) but until you display even half the bollocks that they've shown I suggest that you shut the hell up.
"half the bollocks" as in planting bombs in shopping centers, resulting in the deaths of 2 children? Is that your idea of bravery? How utterly pathetic you are.
Unfortunately the IRA consists of SEVERAL factions, each and everyone with its own views. The killing of children is not something that most of IRA would wish for. However, as with ANY armed conflict there will be civilian casualties. The British Army is no different in this regard.
I'm sorry but your reasoning is skewed in favour of your pre-determined beliefs.
Now, please tell me about a moment when you've put your life on the line for your ideals? However admirable or not they may be.
I suspect those famlies affected by the "SEVERAL" IRA factions will find no succour in your defence of mindless murderers.
Allow me to pick holes in your "reasoning". Do, or have, the British army conciously or deliberateley targeted civiliians? If your answer is yes, do provide evidence. Do I need proffer evidence of the IRA targeting defenceless civilians?
Yea, just like the fathers and mothers of the children shot by the British Army. Feel free to look up events like 'Bloody Sunday', I think you'll have a very hard time justifying those acts. Even Tony Blair has dismissed the army's report as pure whitewash. There are other incidents like it aswell.
Few IRA attacks (at least by the PIRA) have targeted children and the ones like eniskillen recieved major critique from the IRA itseself and Sinn Fein.
Allow me to to bounce this back to you. "Now, please tell me about a moment when you've put your life on the line for your ideals? However admirable or not they may be.".
Are you one of the cowards who would plant an explosive in an civilian rich area?
No, that's the point. I have not, quite frankly I wouldn't wish to have my face shot in by S.A.S. operatives either.
Hence I don't have the audacity to question the braveness of these men. If you think that the IRA enjoy killing children then you are sorely misstaken. I can assure you that the British army has in just a few years killed many, many, many times the children during its presence in Iraq and Afghanistan than what the the IRA ever has.
So when did the IRA kill these 11 SAS? Obviously you can back up this statement with relevent dates and locations. Or are you just another full of shit bogtrotter?
I'd love to tell you but I don't think I could be fucked looking it up on the internet as I've got better things to do. Maybe if you look at all those informers who worked in the SAS that the 'RA killed, then you would get your answer. Oh, and bogtrotter? Never heard that one before, figuire your not from Belfast then? There's not too many bogs in the big city...
the more dead you leave us the more warriors we recruit. The Sas like Paisley before them are the best recruitment officers of the IRA. Thank you ;0))
fallzskin 1 year ago
you are all missing the point. the British state that the SAS are only used in wartime. They continually deny they used the SAS in the WAR in Ireland and that it is an internal conflict. Irish men and women knew the risk and accepted said risk when they joijned the fight. to claim otherwise belittles their sacrifice. How can the British claim it was not a war when they used their special forces to fight it. And the executions of combatants while they where already in custody .......
fallzskin 1 year ago
They were good but not good enough.
Patricklucey5 1 year ago
august 2007 british army states: we cannot beat the IRA a political solution must be found.
emmettdrunkenpunk 1 year ago
I Ran Away wankers did not win Ulster is still British and always will be! just a pity the SAS and UVF did not kill more of the Bastards!!
dougie997 1 year ago
the terrorists about to kill the coal man got EXACTLY what they deserved!
alwaysrationaldebate 1 year ago
@mogroov
The IRA did a job on the Paras at Warrenpoint though and zapped Mountbatten on the same day. Not a bad day's pay.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@mogroov they ambushed them. thats like saying the muhjideen samshed the fuck outta nato or u.s.a haha you dumb or what?
mrsuperterd 1 year ago
The SAS or the Boat Service or even the Royal Marine MAWC are the best trained and hardest fighters on EARTH....BUT they comprise of (and always will) 50% thuggish morons and 50% who could have been university professors. They are shock-troops and have no place in any environment other than to collect intelligence. Putting them in an urban guerilla role whether in Ireland or Afghanistan is suicide.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@jackiebaron jtf-2 are the best on earth are they not?
mrsuperterd 1 year ago
i'll say it again, august 2007, british army quote:we cannot deafeat the IRA a political solution must be found. october 2007 british army was called home.
emmettdrunkenpunk 1 year ago
SAS hung around for a few years, then ran home!!! lol
emmettdrunkenpunk 1 year ago
i think your deluding only your self you dick the IRA ...ammo check camouflage jacket check balaclava check spare per of knickers in case we come across a SAS OR SBS checkpoint check.... no one said anything about any SAS OR SBS ...errrr ok lads i wont be able to make the patrol tonight err am washing my hair...lol IRA fucking cash machine robbers nothing more
leady73 1 year ago
your deluding only your self you dick the IRA going out on a patrol...ammo check..camouflage jacket check...balaclava check.
spare per of knickers in case we come across a SAS OR SBS checkpoint....check
errr no one said any thing about the SAS OR SBS errr i cant make the patrol tonight lads am errr washing my hair sorry lads ...fucking IRA nothing more than cash machine robbers lmao
leady73 1 year ago
SAS..... more like pussys! lol couldnt even control a few streets in northern ireland, arent they supposed to be best of the best???LOL
emmettdrunkenpunk 1 year ago
@emmettdrunkenpunk
I wouldn't exactly call them pussies....and I'm a shinner. No the SAS are intelligent, resourceful and ruthless. But they are also the wrong unit for the job as are most military units. Look at the situation. Paras are basically airborne infantry...useless in N.I. except to commit atrocities. The SAS are specialized in long range reconnaisance gathering...again useless in N.I.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@jackiebaron
They are excellent at urban combat as well. I wouldn't call them useless there.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy
Therein lies the rub. The SAS are not trained in urban combat....why? Because they've already been trained in it as regular soldiers before applying to join the service. But urban combat has many variations. Are we talking all out building to building stuff like Stalingrad or low-level, ongoing, monotonous unpredictable shit with the trappings of everday normalcy like Belfast. It's impossible to train for the latter.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@jackiebaron
The ability to fight room to room is still highly useful. If the IRA is holed up in a building, the SAS would be able to handle them much more effectively than a normal army unit.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago
@jackiebaron
14 Int done that very well for 20 years in N/Ireland m8 and the SAS worked very closly with these guys-have read that 14 int was in the same League as the Isreali Mossad for thier survallance skills so that statement has no substance,as for Urban combat have you ever heard of the SAS "killing House" I dont think you know how well trained these guys realy are
skinnymason 1 year ago
@emmettdrunkenpun
...cont,. guerilla warfare cannot be contained by conventional military means. Take Baghdad. You've got Abrams battletanks trundling around the city. What the fuck use are they except to crush people's cars and roll over kids playing soccer. Maybe they have a psychological effect but it's usually a negative one.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@jackiebaron
Ask yourself this question. If you are a member of a guerilla resistance outfit against what you know to be ruthless, vicious and well trained killers who are roaming your streets looking for you ... what do you do? You don't sit in a fucking room with codes and plans and maps, you idiot. You make yourself as inconspicuous as possible. You become a "nobody". You leave the country for a few weeks.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
@jackiebaron
You come back and wait......you wait for Christmas to come and go. You wait for soldiers to have a New Year's bash. You follow them and then you detonate a massive truck bomb. You probably kill nobody but you've just broken the spirit of that platoon and all soldiers within who just want to be back in Coventry or Hull snuggled up with their wives/girlfriends.
jackiebaron 1 year ago
I cant believe this is actually a debate.
"shoot to kill?"...WHAT IS THE ISSUE HERE? Of course you kill these pieces of shit. ..Of course the other side says they are innocent, ..what do you expect them to do..admit the truth about themselves?
Gotta love the Irish whining on and on for years about this trash.. Get a fvcking life..
losersoftheleft 1 year ago
mogroov their fucin was inisent people killed in straban i live in strabane and the sas and the british army use to kill inisent people all the time cause they were fuckin murderers
and leady73 how do u stop a sas soildier... give him a cup of tea and put the cricket on the tele
and that guy nick in this vid is wrong they were never terrifide by the sas scumbags who would be affreid of bugtooth basterds like them
eamon4800 1 year ago
The SAS is a good fighting force. But they don't belong in Ireland. It's not their war. It's not Englands business.
Coleybears1 1 year ago 2
sas murderers
fuckin muppets murdered bystanders in pretty much every operation they did in the six counties
canyonerodriver 1 year ago
how do you stop a IRA terrorist in his tracks ...whisper the words SAS OR SBS
leady73 1 year ago
fuck the brits
savagesuzi 1 year ago
It's great that The North of Ireland has some semblance of equality and peace now, all agreed?
marmaladekamikaze 2 years ago
Free Ireland..... FREEDOMMMMMM!!!!
YashwehOfNazareth 2 years ago
Fuck up!
richystran1 2 years ago
pizza anyone?
ThomasIRL95 2 years ago
SAS are nothing.TÁL
GraemeISDrunk 2 years ago
mogroov have you bettered the 18 at Warrenpoint yet?? Thought not!!!! One mission 18 para's dead, Provos showed ya!!!!!!! IRA all the way.
MrCelticLove 2 years ago
8 cowardly SAS...to kill 2 IRA...
And they had to hide in Bushes behind...a coal delivery man...
SAS are nothing...
smithy2402 2 years ago
You call it a war? Well expect war like activities,its totally fair and legit!
richystran1 2 years ago
Oh yeah real scary they were the RUC`S bitches and the RUC were the biggest scumbag filled police force in europe and the little SAS done what they were told like the good little cock suckers the are
TAL
rsfbelfast 2 years ago
the IRA were shit scared of the SAS fact
leady73 2 years ago 13
who wouldnt be.
target741 1 year ago
sas could not defeat south armagh brigade fact ,francis hughes fucked one and wounded another fact angelo fusco blew wescotts head and shoulder off fact. two where killed in cappagh fact. the ira killed lots of undercover soldiers fact .the sas are as soft as shit
toughload 1 year ago
@toughload Talk more shite why dont you, the sas are trained and can deal with any situation, trained to survive in any place on earth, can fight in jungle to deserts, are the top 1% of the fittest people on the planet
The ira used there own rules, they where joe bloggs one minute, and the ira the next, they where the ones who where shit bags, the ira are just normal men who can pull a trigger, lets see them go and fight and survive and fight somone lese war on the other side of the world
wwwNooBcom 1 year ago
@toughload
Catch yourself on,if the truth was known the IRA was shit scared of coming across the SAS and what these highly trained Special Forces unit are capable of,lets face it these boys are the best in the world at what they do ,you must be off your head to think the South Armargh PIRA where remotely in the same League as these boys lol,
funkyfenman 1 year ago 3
@toughload
Francis Hughes got lucky,very lucky-the SAS thought these two guys where UDR soldiers, catching them off guard and exposing themselves-without the trickery one on one do you realy think he would of stood half a chance against these men
funkyfenman 1 year ago 2
@toughload
And what you missed out about Belfast Angelo fusco siege fiasco is that the SAS was given the wrong address for where the PIRA ASU was located and stormed the wrong house ,hense why Willcott got shot ,proving my earlier point once these brave IRA men realised the SAS where coming for them they shit themselves and surrendered as soon as they could to the army without putting up a further fight ,over a 30 year long period every dog will have its day
funkyfenman 1 year ago
@leady73 What is your point? To not be worried about them would mean you are ignorant of THEIR intentions and training. Scared....? Maybe, but the IRA don't seem like much scares them to me, or they wouldn't have been taking on the struggle they have taken on. Are you man enough to put your life on the line against forces better trained and out gunning you? If not, you should probably be quiet about what scares who.
blastingcaps 1 year ago
Have you been convicted of these murders if not admitting them on the internet may not be youre best move
zuton100 2 years ago
ira are all gay no back bone in any of them, took pleasure in taking 1 or 2 of there lives ha ha
wayneellins 2 years ago
LOL bullshit another keyboard warrior
toughload 2 years ago
No more stark indication of a failed sociey than an army on the streets.
slappymcgroundout 2 years ago 2
aye like your paras went into derry and shot 10 innoncent unarmed civilians in derry who were marching for civil rights, brave men!!fucking scum
guinerbox 2 years ago
Only 10? Shame. By the way congratulations on spelling at least three words correctly in your bullshit sentence, although i like the freudian slip up on the word innocent. Innocent my arse.
paulshaw27 2 years ago
it was actually 13 i hit the wrong key, the saval(british lead) enquiry into the killings judged that every man/child on that day was innoncent....have you tried any of them robert nairac sausages hahaha meat machine was too good for the prick!!and a couple of weeks after the shootings in derry 18soldiers got at narrow water...army scum...
guinerbox 2 years ago
you call this success 800 IRA voluteers against 35000 brittish and use still couldnt beat them yea rite weres the success in that and BY THE WAY IN THE WORDS OF THAT GREAT TRIATOR ADAMS THEY HAVENT GONE AWAY U NO peace out TIOCFAIDH AR LA
kevinc1916 2 years ago
ireland is the most boring country i have ever been in, i can see why the brits fucked off and let you play in your little mud pit.
target741 1 year ago
true they did fuck off but they left after paying socalled republicans to do there dirty work and now they adminster brittish rule on the brits behalf quite smart really BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE A WOKEN TO THIS SHAM
kevinc1916 1 year ago
I'm a Norwegian with limited knowledge on this issue. But I can't see why one nation should occupy a part of its neighbour. What are british doing in socalled "Northern-Ireland"? Its just as weird as if Norway occupied a bit of Sweden in spite of local opposition. If Americans had'nt fought a guerilla campaign - like IRA - in the 17th century, USA would'nt have existed today.. People have a right to fight for freedom, and when they oppose a superpower like Britain, they are really brave!
osloman78 2 years ago
Let me enlighten you, my Norwegian friend. The majority of the population in Northern Ireland are protestant loyalists, that is they would rather be a part of Britain. The Catholic republican minority had been trying to force their will on the majority of the people of Northern Ireland, who do NOT want to be a part of the Republic of Ireland. Though I am not British, I will always salute the brave actions of British troops around the world.
GregHuismans 2 years ago 3
Imagine that Norwegians that were nazis and traitors after the war moved into a special county i Norway, creating a subculture there. If the Germans didn't loose the war the way they did and still had some influence. Should the rest of Norway accept a little "(Nazi)Northern Norway" under German rule? The local people in "Nortern Norway" would of course prefer to be protected by Germany. But this is still an illegitimate occupation, and Northern Ireland should become part of the Irish republic..
osloman78 2 years ago
@osloman78 make sure you dont make those remarks in an east Belfast pub osloman!
FASTF0RWARD 2 years ago
britian had occupied the hole of Eire until the 1916Rising, 'the easter rising'. part of a truce in 1921 a treaty was signed so that the north of ireland would remain under british occupation. the man who signed that, micheal collins was shot dead by his former comrades. collins knew when he signed this that he had signed his own death warrant. the IRA want Britian completely out of Ireland. people say that the majority of 'northern ireland' is protestant, but the majority of Ireland is Catholic
guinerbox 2 years ago
I'm a protestant you knob :D
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
IRA terrified of the SAS?
I love that. It was great when they refused to go to Crossmaglen becasue the South Armagh Sniper was active.
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
Yet the rest of the Army units in S Armagh carried on patrolling? Somehow your comment gets more ridiculous the more i read it. Twat.
snakehips2000 2 years ago
I don't remember any army units in Crossmaglen for a few months. Don't talk about what you don't know.
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
???
To clarify - you said that the SAS refused to go to XMG because the sniper was active.
Yet while the sniper was active units were patrolling round the slum as normal. Thats the point about the British Army in NI - they didnt hide, triggering IEDs from safe little hidey holes then running back across the border.
As you say, dont talk about what you dont know. Cock.
snakehips2000 2 years ago 2
No, instead the Brits like to fire Cruise missiles at Iraq and use predator drones in Afghan from thousands of miles away and then hide behind the Americans.
DizzyDingo1 2 years ago
The Brits dont have predators for anything but surveillance. Not sure about hiding behind the Americans - that bit just doesnt make sense.
snakehips2000 2 years ago
Brit soldiers dont operate cruise missles you thick twat thats Navy commanders jobs. You really are clueless
sirgouldie72 2 years ago
Hate to burst yer bubble bu the SAS captured the Armargh Sniper yer dumbshit
sirgouldie72 2 years ago
You ever seen Rescue Me before you will know what I mean. It is good show stars Denis Lerry.
livingtonu 2 years ago
I wonder why the prods and the Caths. dont get a long. I understan wanting to fight the birtish. But why fight pods to. Dont tell me that Caths and pods cant get along look at my country. In America prods and Caths live side by side. They even mary each other. My father is Irish Cath. and my mom is Scotch and Irish Prod. I guess I just dont understand. Yes I am Irish American. If you ever visted America you will find that they are lots and lots of Irish here. Many of them are Police and fireman.
livingtonu 2 years ago
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matrixsenior 2 years ago
There you go again. Bluster and babble.
Have your IRA deliberately murdered "non combatants", or not?
Now, do please try and follow. I used the term "recent" in regards to your statement "The IRA do not murder non combatants.". As your IRA have murdered "non combatants" as recently as 15 years ago, I would consider that to be "recent" history. Get it now son?
Was the question of telling me where I have displayed my "ignorance and denial of British atrocities" to difficult for you?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
The IRA does not murder non-combatants. A combatant is any representitive of the british government, police force, army, loyalist paramilitaries and any other enemy of the irish people.
As long as the british defile Irish soil with their presence they will be targets.
Innocent bystanders are a sad and unfotunate casualty of every war.
The SAS have killed innocent bystanders in their operations also.
Is that easy enough for your limited inbred loyalist brain to understand?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Damn. You really do live in a bubble of denial. Sad. Very sad.
Maybe for a minute you could consider not regurgitating what you want to hear. Hold on. No. That could lead to you having an original thought. Heaven forbid that should happen. You carry on believing what you want to believe son. You are obviously devoid of the capacity to think beyond the end of your nose. As the world leaves you and your stagnant ilk behind, I for one will be smiling broadly.
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
They British royal family are nothing but the putrid offspring of a long line of murdering thieves. They hang empty titles about their necks and cloak themselves with words like "nobility" and "grace" but nothing can remove the stench of their ancestors.
As they are expelled by the people they have brutalized for centuries and pushed back to the insignificant cesspool they call a country, it pleases me to know the Irish will have the honor of sticking in the last dagger.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
you know what midnightrambler you might actually be right! there might even be an element of truth in everything you say! BUT HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN A SHOPPING CENTRE RESPONISBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE BEFORE THEM! fucking IRA pig
ashton82 2 years ago
Midnightrambler3760
told me he won the gold gloves in boxing he is a troll all he does is lie
aussie66monster 2 years ago
Where I have displayed my "ignorance and denial of British atrocities".
Have I poked a spike of reality into your denial bubble? Have I exposed your limited grasp of recent history?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
Beacuse they are no longer soldiers. The IRA do not murder non combatants. That is the SAS's job.
Do you understand now you inbred loyalist fuck?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
"The IRA do not murder non combatants.".
How odd. Your IRA killed 2 children in my local shopping center. Were they not "non combatants"?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
As tragic as those deaths are they only happened because of the illegal occupation of Ireland by British soldiers.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
You said "The IRA do not murder non combatants". You are either a lier or you actually know little of the IRA. Your IRA have deliberately targeted and murdered "non combatants" haven't they. Surely you agree?
In one sentence you dismiss the lives of 2 children. Your contempt for life is as shameful as your ignorance, or your denial, of your IRA acts.
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
I Ran Away lol terrified of the SAS bang bang bang...
garyscott 2 years ago
What do the troubles in Northern Ireland have to do with God? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
ok actually talk to a guy whos from belfast it was to do with the IRA wanting NI to join the republic and leave britian and the other british countries deployed british army, SAS and even australian SASR to take action
TheSAS53 2 years ago
I love the bullshit....The SAS are choir boys and the coal man, part time soldier or copper was a nice bloke.
All these levels of security forces, regular army, military intelligence, RUC, loyalist paramilitaries, SAS etc, etc, etc and still the IRA fights on.
The SAS caused nothing but trouble in N.I.
A gang of murdering henchmen who have the nerve to call the IRA terrorists.
If a heavily armed IRA regiment invaded London, would anyone who fights them be considered terrorists?
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
any one who fights for a made up god deserves to be killed like a dog
islamiscrap 2 years ago
The IRA are terrorists because they do not fight for a legally recognized government and because their tactics are fairly indiscriminate. The IRA fights on without coming close to achieving any sort of victory. The SAS are special forces, and honestly its laughable that the IRA claims to be an army and demands POW status yet call the SAS murderers when they kill the 'soldiers' of the self-proclaimed 'Oglaigh na hEireann' while in the process of launching attacks in a war the IRA declared.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
You are so unbelieveably close minded
The British declared Abe Lincoln and George Washington criminals because they did not fight for any "legally recognized government"
When the Germans invaded and conquered France in WWII were the resistance fighters terrorists?
Tomorrow if England was conquered and the government disbanded, would you resist. If yes then that would also make you a terrorist
You should watch what labels you use. In my eyes the british government are terrorists
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
The British government can't be terrorists, as they are responsible for maintaining law and order. And yes, French Resistance could have legally been defined as terrorists. The difference with the American colonists is that they fought a conventional war with a conventional army, with both sides generally following the accepted rules of war. The IRA's tactics are indiscriminate. Terrorist doesn't necessarily imply that one's cause is unjust, but it does mean undermining law and order.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
So the Irish people should just lie down and accept an illegal occupation so they don't upset the delicate British "law and order". The Irish people have felt the sharp end of British law and order for centuries.
How can the IRA possibly fight a conventional war when they would be jailed for 20 years for even carrying a gun.
An army uses whatever tactics it has at it's disposal. If the British don't like it they can leave at any time.
Diplomacy stems from the barrel of a gun.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Firstly the IRA do not represent the Irish people. Secondly it may surprise you that few people in the Republic of Ireland want the North back in the short term if at all. Thirdly the IRA want to be treated as soldiers and POW's so why complain if they will be taken prison when identified. The IRA has no hope of pressuring the British Army into leaving, the British are perhaps the most stubborn and stoic people on the planet. In the IRA's case its more the bomb than the gun in recent times.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
Do British soldiers get arrested for the posession of a firearm? Are british soldiers dragged out of their beds in the middle of the night? Are there homes searched?
It is not a level playing field. The IRA can only use the tactics that are available to them. They have been fighting for decades and will continue to fight.
The time will come and the British will leave.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
In no war will the troops of one side allowed enemy soldiers to go about their business unmolested. If the IRA are soldiers than of course they will be either killed or taken prisoner if under arms. If they aren't soldiers then they should be arrested and charged with possession of a firearm. Of course British troops shouldn't be arrested for carrying firearms, they are the army in Northern Ireland. The IRA have not achieved much more than the Adoo, nor are they likely too.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
Exactly, it is not a conventional war, there are no rules. They IRA will strike when and where they see fit. Any british soldier or any symbol of the illegal British occupancy is a target.
You call the IRA terrorists, I call the british army and the british government terrorists. I call the royal family and their ancestors the biggest gang of criminals in history.
What you call a terrorist act I call an action for freedom. What you call a terrorist I call a freedom fighter
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Actually, the British sovereignty of Northern Ireland is recognized in international law. The IRA fight unscrupulously anyway. You don't really know what a terrorist is. Other than that, just don't call the SAS 'terrorists' and 'murdering scum' etc. when you are up to the same thing yourself. And don't whinge when they shoot you down while you are in the process of killing others.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
There is nothing unscrupulous about defending oneself against tyranny and
government sanctioned terrorism.
The SAS are nothing more than hired thugs and henchmen.
What is white and flies across the Irish sea at 200 miles an hour?
Lord Mountbatten's tennis shoes.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Actually its quite unscrupulous to blow up bombs regardless of whether they will kill the British soldiers, Unionist civilians or Nationalist civilians. The IRA aren't actively defending anything. The SAS are elite and highly disciplined soldiers and the world's foremost special forces unit. I guess the IRA are jealous that an ASU got slaughtered at Loughgall.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
"Slaughtered", thanks for proving my point.
Typical loyalist has trouble thinking straight with his head inserted firmly in his arse.
Why do the SAS wear masks if they are so honorable? becasue they want to hide their identities. Why? Because they are scared shit the IRA will catch up to them.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
SAS only wear masks on hostage rescue operations, so they haven't worn them against the IRA. The masks are to protect them from tear gas, CS, etc. The only point proved by 'slaughtered' is that the IRA were roundly outmaneuvered and beaten by the SAS. Typical Republican too much of a culchy to realize that the IRA don't enjoy divine right. The Irish Army slaughtered the IRA in the Civil War as well in 1922-23. My grandfather raised the Irish tricolor over Youghal after they drove out the IRA.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
The SAS have the full funding of the British government and the support of the british army, police forces etc. 1922-1923 and the IRA are still fighting. No
surrender!
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
dont be such a fag
joshallan5 2 years ago
*sigh* You do all know that Northern Ireland votes in every general election right? As members yourselves of a democracy I would assume that you would understand that given a majority vote to retain the union (with the UK), that's what comes to pass. The question then is not why 'it's not given back', but rather, how to arrange things that the people there vote alternatively. JEEZ.
iain075 2 years ago
So called Northern Ireland today may have a marginal, manufactured majority in the carved out 6 counties. Remember this took years of British direct rule to cultivate. Northern Ireland was initially gutted as a 9 county state but this didn't swing a majority for unionists in the north. The blatant employment of Gerrymandering took place here, and they just kept trimming until they drew a border that suited them. Can I put that on my voting card.
duit1 2 years ago
whats the body coubt, IRA way ahead
ThePierrie 2 years ago
This is BULLSHIT
ThePierrie 2 years ago
As an American and reading these comments and seeing where you guys stand is in your ways right. My uncles are part of Ireland and have served in the IRA though they don't talk about it really and I wont ask. But Ireland does deserve freedom and its the truth. Sas was good in Ireland but the IRA also had more support. Sas vs Ira is like for example: An unstoppable force vs and in movable object. Both are trained and very deadly in there own right.
Deathnotekeeper 2 years ago
Typical American/ Irish, Ireland Deserves its freedom what about the Protestant community who want to stay part of the UK. Uncles part of the IRA but dont talk about it how do you know they were a part of it, IRA KNEW THEY COULD NOT WIN THATS WHY THEY HAD A CEASE FIRE
leytonos 2 years ago 4
Hm you know your comment just shows how negative you are. And Ireland does deserve freedom my friend. Scotland got there's , America got theres, so what about ireland. And yes they were but like I said they don't talk about it. And Ira isn't gone buddy there still fighting but the one your talking about is the PIRA. The new ira just had a riot do I say there still. So I don't know why you just can't let a country have freedom, but then again you don't have a very opened mind do you.
Deathnotekeeper 2 years ago
Deathnotekeeper, you need to understand why Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK. It's a democratic choice for gods sake, it has nothing to do with what soldiers want, what politicians want, what the UK wants. They VOTE there ok? It's so ignorant peddling the view that they don't have freedom, if the majority elected Sinn Feinn then your 'freedom' would come to pass. The problem is, unionists will never vote for anything other than retention of the union with the UK. Read about it.
iain075 2 years ago
It may surprise you that most people in the Republic of Ireland don't want the North back any time soon, if at all.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
A majority of people really couldn't care. More Unionists then Republicans though. (Britain attempted to set N.I of with Home rule but the Unionists threatened war. British Government ignored the Unionists and thus war began.)
It was a fucked up war that shouldn't of happened. Both sides had murderous bastards in it. A lot of people in Britain who were in it won't talk about it. Both sides are to blame, and it was innocent civilians who suffered.
Big shame the troubles. Mindless loss.
BritGBM 2 years ago
true, ireland does deserve freedom and to be fully independent. shame those british soldiers don't have a mind of their own.
londonrocks 2 years ago
As a brit, and reading your comments and seeing where you stand, I think Hawaii deserves freedom and should be free.
mez6117 2 years ago
The guy mentions IRA were terrified! Even to this day the brits have limited knowledge of irish republicanism albeit whatever they have learned they putting to limited use in iraq etc! For every IRA volunteer gunned down the IRA had to turn away 90% of possible recruiters such was peoples anger at their loss! You shoot 8, 500 will come forward! Tiocfaidh ar la
SOUTHDERRYPROVOS 2 years ago
Or does it mention numerous SAS casulties inlicted by the volunteer army of the IRA whos conviently "got killed or injured in training exercises in germany"
SOUTHDERRYPROVOS 2 years ago
furthermore this programme is extemly misleading in its examples of SAS force. There is numerous examples of them without so called "yellow cards" as in 15yr innocent kid in Dunloy gunned down by SAS.Brave men then lied in his inquest
SOUTHDERRYPROVOS 2 years ago
As an rish republican and an IRA supporter i have no problem with Brit soldiers attacking Active sevice units of the IRA. Problem was Brit gov refused to recognize that they were fighting a war and that irish revolutionaries where in fact "ordainry criminals" not involved in political violence but what the brits deemed their "criminalisation" policy! So if they werent fighting a war why were they gunning down so called "criminals".
SOUTHDERRYPROVOS 2 years ago
At least you are honest enough not to whine about British 'murderers' gunning down IRA men who want to be recognized as soldiers when the IRA are in the process of launching attacks.
Kampfer1445 2 years ago
18 in 3 years fucking nice
dubya27 2 years ago
the ira used terror tactics there taught to there not soldiers no matter how much they want to be.
dubya27 2 years ago
Wow...way to make an intelligent point. Seriously, though, you write like a mental deficient.
mjuad 2 years ago
All languages where once made up from different languages coming into one, the english language just happens to be one of the newest to come together from different languages. You think one day someone sits there and goes ' i know what i will do today! ill make a new language! ' . Please, dont say stupid things, your a teenager arn't you?
xThatEnglishGuyx 2 years ago
lMAO HOW HE ALWAY'S SAY'S THE i.r.a ARE TERRORIST'S WHAT A JOKE!!:D
0ologitechnewbieo0 2 years ago
They are, when a force relies on using terror tactics the title Terrosist follows suit. Where do you think the word terrorist came from? some Arabians screaming Allah? It been around since the dawn of man, just not with explosives and plane jackings etc.
xThatEnglishGuyx 2 years ago
just shows how little you know about ireland. my mum has an ulster-scots name,ulster-scots have been in the west coast of scotland and ulster since before st patrick (scotti tribe. hence scotland). this is basic stuff you should have a little knowledge about ireland when you claim"i'm very proud of my irish heritage" when really all your proud of is fairytales.this is exactly why we are having this conversation in the first place.wow you can name four in 82 million, not liking that average haha
timmymallet86 2 years ago
ammm at what point did i say im anything other than irish? it really funny how you confuse yourself, you should know irish girls are ugly, half your familys from here hahahaha, you've changed your tune one minute you love ireland next minute your slagging it off, not very patriotic hahahaha. ive never in my life seen a beautiful german.....
timmymallet86 2 years ago
its not slang, go look up the definition of slang on wikipedia and get back to me simpleton. its an abbreviation little nazi-boy. im not the one speaking german on an english language sight here, probably the gayest, and definately the ugliest language ever spoken!hahahahahaha.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
its quite surreal being called a spastic by someone who can't spell the word "said" in the same sentence as the accusation.....
timmymallet86 2 years ago
who is arguing about ireland being irish?! confusing, also you just made it clear you know nothing about it because that didnt happen. they didnt "move north" there has been a protestant majority in the north for 400 years, and they didnt want to be part of ireland. nobody moved anywhere. that such a twisted and distorted fairy-tale did your grandad who was in the 'RA (cough) tell you that one? the whole last 3 lines? didnt make any sense of it whatsoever. have you ever heard of punctuation?
timmymallet86 2 years ago
we prefer to not wear anything stupid mate.if your sick talkin why did you write 3 full fucking comments. why dont you go look up the meaning of RETARD on wikipedia, 'cus you are one. usin fuck as an insult isn't exactly a new thing in case you havent noticed,the two sentences arent even slightly similar apart from the word fuck! hahaha that was such an obscure and pitiful attempt at tryin to catch me out like i caught you .irish gypsies are irish (clues in the name dickhead) they're from here.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
aaahahaha YOU MORON! you actually did go onto wikipedia and looked up "fenianism" and copy and pasted it! did you really think you could get away with using the word "pejorative" after fully demonstrating your extremely weak grasp of the english language? ooooh brilliant insult at the end there, a fine demonstration of GCSE german...so very offended. why dont you go felch yer ma (google it) you lederhosen wearing fuck! takes more than a name to be irish you cock-muncher
timmymallet86 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this is total bullshit
belbous1 2 years ago
Why did they turn up in a VOLVO and then turn back round in a SIERRA? Bad editing!
jackawoof 2 years ago
proud fenianism IS patriotism you stupid fuck. you are the most retarded self-contadicting moron i have ever had the mis-pleasure of having a barely comprehensable arguement with, noone cares about your family tree, just fuck off back to nazi-land you hitler-worshiping faggot, fucking retard. dick. your not and never will be welcome here. faggot
timmymallet86 2 years ago
this man is queer.
belbous1 2 years ago
Please look at this queer, Protection .
The coal rorry stoyey is bullisit.
Part true, part lies sas lies.
belbous1 2 years ago
No bellend, none of it is BS..It was called lets exterminate the IRA bastard scum. What a good game! Now then spetic, bugger orff theres a good chap. You will find someones leg to hump on the telly tubby videos!
grumpyoldbug 2 years ago
do not fuck with the s.a.s there will be only one winner
Mikedon09 2 years ago 2
did anyone ask for your family story dipshit? yer granda was a nazi and he raped your ma and had you. thats what i hear. you see my family dont go round making up stories about how they were so dedicated to the ra that they fucked off to england and had bastard children with nazis, sorry.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
onmywaytothedarkside! what a fuckin dreamer keep it up ya potato lickin bitch!!! I.R.A bunch of fuckin cowards!!! p.s you know anyone sellin a cheap caravan???
stiz 2 years ago
" you sir are a coward" the midlde ages? of course you would do something about being "occupied" i mean, its not like germany was occupied by russia for the best part of 60 years or anything...wait...the only foreign body you would do something about is the big ten inch dildo you shove up your own anus . you live in a fantasy world, and trash talk ON THE INTERNET the real people of northern ireland when they refuse to accept you are in any way irish (which you aren't) your mediocrity amuses me.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
you are an imbecile
timmymallet86 2 years ago
"then we fuck of to out origins"- that literally makes no sense in my head im sorry. if it means "fuck off to our origins" then what happens to you ? do you split yourself in half?
timmymallet86 2 years ago
"i'm german and irish" hahahaha
timmymallet86 2 years ago
naw your english, get over it. your like those americans who go "yeaa i'm irish my granny was irish". born in england+live in england=english
timmymallet86 2 years ago
your naivity shocks me. your english, and in all seriousness it doesn't matter what you wear or what you have tattooed on yourself, you would not last ten minutes anywere near the falls road, its not this little romantic picture you have in your head of a provo-run paradise its a nasty place to be, and one lick of an english accent and you'd be overrun by about thirty chav's in two minutes flat. i personally would find that hilerious but i wouldnt want to goad anyone into doing something stupid.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
what an absolutely ridiculous statement..Naw totally man, i've lived in belfast my whole life...but you know way more about it than i do, you know two people who were so patriotic THEY MOVED TO ENGLAND sorry your sooo right. its ok to be ignorant, the fact that you broadcast this ignorance bothers me though. ask your "friend" what would happen to you if you went anywhere near the falls road with that pretty little london accent of yours! its funny though. you stupid little prick.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
i send you greetings from Scotland, the Irish will always be our brothers!!!!! fuck England and FUCK ULSTER SCOTS IRISH IGNORANT BASTARD TRAITORS!!!!!! Irish famine? ethnic cleansing in the Scottish Highlands!!!!! enough said!!! Always my Celtic brother!!!!
Uilliampictcelt 2 years ago
nah man love to all haha noones done shit to me,raking up the distant past does noone any good. plus the large majority of my family is ulster-scots so i wouldnt be into slaggin them haha
timmymallet86 2 years ago
well mate your not from here and i can tell you they fucking well are terrorists, as were the UFF UVF and any other paramilitary group you can think of. its easy for you to say they were freedom fighters you didnt have to worry that your mums/dads, brothers/sisters etc werent coming home that night. why don't you go play hide and go fuck yourself and stop talking about things you could never hope to understand you absolute wank-stain on the bedsheet of life. your from london! wise the fuck up.
timmymallet86 2 years ago
Up UP RA,
Seems to me that discovery channel are pro british tits
SCBReturns 2 years ago
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belbous1 2 years ago
I grew up as a catholic in N.I. I believe from history that americans are american because, at some point, they fought the british rule of their soil. While i do not condone what the IRA do, Ireland is still ruled by the same country that once ruled America. Would you be happy being american only in name while the british parliament decide what laws you have to obey?
carl0780 2 years ago
That is not true all you have to do to solve that is ask Adams, McGuinness etc to take their seats at Westminister. Hey presto you then have a say in your own country it's called democracy. Like what the SDLP and Unionists do.
robtime 2 years ago
I can't help but feel though that if Obama had to sit in british parliament and put forward what he would like to do in his own country, and then have a foriegn democracy vote on it, americans woud be none to pleased. They don't sit in westminister becase it is the government of an occupying nation. Should iraq politicians be allowed to sit ini americas government and have a say on how america is run?
carl0780 2 years ago
Ironic you should mention Iraq and NI in the same sentence. You are a nationalist and yet who occupies Iraq? Still to answer your question what about the Unionists? What about the SDLP? You could be a elected politician from any party in NI and have a full say in a democracy. However SF choose to just soak up the expenses instead. Besides the GFA was voted on across Ireland and this gives legitimacy to the Stormont assembly. A change to that status is possible if a majority wish it as per GFA.
robtime 2 years ago
When the COWARDS of the IRA get into a fight, where the other side is as ready as they are, it ends with the IRA being put out to the curb with the the rest of the daily rubbish.
Osama bin Laden, Hezbollah, Al Quita, & IRA; Same flock of cowardly sheep.
If you support one, you support them all
(and if you support any you are an uneducated, uninformed, and angry person).
xenophobephoto 2 years ago
Yea, an ambush by highly trained and well equipped special forces .. that's a fair fight.
One may not agree with the IRA (or rather its various factions) but until you display even half the bollocks that they've shown I suggest that you shut the hell up.
s4jt 2 years ago
"half the bollocks" as in planting bombs in shopping centers, resulting in the deaths of 2 children? Is that your idea of bravery? How utterly pathetic you are.
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
Unfortunately the IRA consists of SEVERAL factions, each and everyone with its own views. The killing of children is not something that most of IRA would wish for. However, as with ANY armed conflict there will be civilian casualties. The British Army is no different in this regard.
I'm sorry but your reasoning is skewed in favour of your pre-determined beliefs.
Now, please tell me about a moment when you've put your life on the line for your ideals? However admirable or not they may be.
s4jt 2 years ago
I suspect those famlies affected by the "SEVERAL" IRA factions will find no succour in your defence of mindless murderers.
Allow me to pick holes in your "reasoning". Do, or have, the British army conciously or deliberateley targeted civiliians? If your answer is yes, do provide evidence. Do I need proffer evidence of the IRA targeting defenceless civilians?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
Yea, just like the fathers and mothers of the children shot by the British Army. Feel free to look up events like 'Bloody Sunday', I think you'll have a very hard time justifying those acts. Even Tony Blair has dismissed the army's report as pure whitewash. There are other incidents like it aswell.
Few IRA attacks (at least by the PIRA) have targeted children and the ones like eniskillen recieved major critique from the IRA itseself and Sinn Fein.
s4jt 2 years ago
Allow me to to bounce this back to you. "Now, please tell me about a moment when you've put your life on the line for your ideals? However admirable or not they may be.".
Are you one of the cowards who would plant an explosive in an civilian rich area?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
No, that's the point. I have not, quite frankly I wouldn't wish to have my face shot in by S.A.S. operatives either.
Hence I don't have the audacity to question the braveness of these men. If you think that the IRA enjoy killing children then you are sorely misstaken. I can assure you that the British army has in just a few years killed many, many, many times the children during its presence in Iraq and Afghanistan than what the the IRA ever has.
War on terror.. right...
s4jt 2 years ago
Terrorists & cowards can't win a face to face fight.
Osama bin Laden, Hezbollah, Al Quita, & IRA; Same flock of cowardly sheep.
If you support one, you support them all
(and if you support any you are an uneducated, uninformed, and angry person).
xenophobephoto 2 years ago
potatoe eaters have no where to hide. sas are gonna find you and merk you in your sleep with a cool cold serated blade to the jugular
macky111222 2 years ago
It doesn't tell about the IRAAwho killed the SAS. Yeah, 11 SAS dead at IRA hands, 18 at the best the English had... Nedd I say more?
xXRosenroTxXxBabezXx 2 years ago
So when did the IRA kill these 11 SAS? Obviously you can back up this statement with relevent dates and locations. Or are you just another full of shit bogtrotter?
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago
I'd love to tell you but I don't think I could be fucked looking it up on the internet as I've got better things to do. Maybe if you look at all those informers who worked in the SAS that the 'RA killed, then you would get your answer. Oh, and bogtrotter? Never heard that one before, figuire your not from Belfast then? There's not too many bogs in the big city...
xXRosenroTxXxBabezXx 2 years ago
"It doesn't tell about the IRAAwho killed the SAS. Yeah, 11 SAS dead at IRA hands,? 18 at the best the English had... Nedd I say more?"
So you don't actually know any details relating to the 11 SAS you say the IRA killed. Yet you say it with such conviction.
As I suspected, you're just another full of shit bogtrotter.
onmywaytothedarkside 2 years ago