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  • You guys were pretty much wrong about everything, congrads experts

  • apple users reviewing Microsoft products? I advise you to open an account in cupidtino and get a life LOL

  • FAIL

  • Thats because they couldnt make a good desktop os

  • Developers will have their choice to develop for tablets or desktop

  • Windows 8 isnt the same as windows 7

  • Windows isnt the same as windows '

  • Microsoft doesn't have to care about Apple they own 45% mark Apple own lime 6% computer market and Microsoft won't be getting smaller anytime sooner and Apple might get to 10% but still not that much.

  • Are you guys gonna be making any more videos for this series?

  • I'm really starting to enjoy this series, keep up the good work!

  • I don't see why people are getting so millitant about this video. Aren't people entitled to their own opinions?

  • Thanks to you our channel is awesome. Keep up the good work :)

  • Apple fanboi fuckers.

  • stupid

    

  • Tech writers == (apple fanboys && no tech experience)

    Everyone who reads ZDNet needs to realize these THESE are the people who write those articles. Rather disheartening.

  • technobuffalo sucks

  • @chicanohomes your mom sucks too technobuffalo is the best

  • "Apple has these guys scared.....people don't realize how many iPads Apple has sold..." you're such a moron. Seriously, omg. Have Microsoft scared? Microsoft could buy Apple. Wanna talk about Windows ~90% market share? Oh but I'm sure MS is scared of that 10% Apple has right? Good God people's stupidity scares me.

  • I don't think either of you have a clue what you're talking about. I tell you what, I have never been to ZDNet and now I never will. Good job moron. Keep making ignorant videos like this and you just help prove the theory that crApple fanboys have little clue as to what is going on the the world of tech.

  • Jesus, the fat one is an apple fanboy. Apples tablets are goimg to quickly get dwarfed and pushed aside just like their phones are, by android.

  • GET YOUR UDID REGISTERED FOR iOS5!! bit . ly/fjz2x2

  • i think, i dont know, not sure, probably. wtf you two fags actually know?

  • everyone who has an open mind knows that the only thing apple invented was the click wheel. the rest, they all copied from true engineers. what's sad is apple's taking credit. that's just wrong. this ios5 and osx lion are just another examples of apple repacking yesterday's technology and calling it magical. apple fan boys would never see through this.

  • Windows 8 is gonna be a major downfall for windows platform.

  • @Panther704 you're a fucking downfall for the intelligence of humanity.

  • /watch?v=g3AhWT3H6I8

    I have about 4 videos of some pretty cool features on iOS 5! Check em' out!

  • @iNegahban

    i just checked them out and subscribed to your channel and commented on your 3rd video which is awesome

  • Let be real here everything there calling innovation like pull down menu been on android since first phone same with the lock screen notifications. Non of this is innovation, just good copying.

  • @amiadr And I just can't believe the other iOS 5 "innovations", they even copied the Windows 8 keyboard for tablets! UNBELIEVABLE!

  • I'm not sure these guys understand the win8 UI at all.. But it won't matter, what's said here, and what's actually happening are two very, different things.

    It's not at all what they think, and slightly frustrating to watch two people that are supposed to be in-the-in, in-the-know, not knowing anything at all. This is all made clear, if they bothered to look into it.

    They really think Microsofts core business is shifting? Wtf? Wow, this is crazy haa..

  • Are you two stupids? Do you make one version of an app to each iPhone?? No. So, Microsoft wants you to make an app, JUST ONE VERSION, and it will run on every Windows 8 powered device. You two are just some pissed apple fanboys! That's why I hate this company, people get blind when start to admire it! FACE IT! MICROSOFT IS DOING A GREAT JOB!

  • @victorteles95 couldn't agree more.

  • this is so gay

  • idk how people can sit thru this...

  • Is that a phonedog mug?!?!

  • LOL Apple and Microsoft are switching jobs.... Apple used to have the best tablet and phone UI, and Windows was the best computer UI. So now Windows 8 will beat iOS, but OSX is gonna be infinitely more suited and productive for a desktop/laptop! :D Apple FTW

  • Correction: Microsoft predicted that tablets would become the standard form of portable computers of the future not Apple.

  • iDeviceHelp. net

    Join up? I need some subscribers and what not. We have a Forum too!

  • Why'd you post a full conversation between you two? You guys basically stretched 1 & 2(posted below) over 20 minutes...

    1.) Microsoft is relying on the devs to make programs to be compatible with desktops, laptops, tablets, and phones. That's going to be a lot of work for devs.

    2.) You guys think there's not going to be widgets on iOS.

  • @Noah .. please use a hd cam

  • If desktop computers ever start running OS' like Ios or Winphone 7 I will move to Linux. If Linux moves in that direction, I will compile my own version of Linux.

  • @jon4lakers Noah, this is a little off topic, but is that a painting of "irises" by Van Gogh? Lol. I like these videos too. Keep 'em coming.

  • The guy on the right pisses me off. He doesnt even understand what its like to write code and be innovative. It sounds like he is just jealous apple didint come up with the idea.

  • @ryan4888 im definatly not a apple fanboy, i only own 1 apple product, an ipod touch but I know one thing for sure... the reason why windows, google, and all other innovative companies do what they do is because of Apple. Many windows ideas were based on mac osx. Like the windows 7 dock, its a copy of the mac dock! I love windows but they need to stop playing copycat and catch up with other companies. Also, the windows 8 platform seems like a great idea for a tablet but definitely not a pc!

  • @TakessianGaren #1 Windows does not have a dock. They have tool bar, which is now starting too look more and more attractive. The new tile format has nothing to do with Apple at all. And i do like some Apple products dont get me wrong. They are not copying anyone. Man OS and Windows ARE COMPLETELY different. and iOS and Windows Phone 7 have nothing in common.

  • @ryan4888 Ok man, think about it this way... If there was no apple where would google and windows be right now? They would be so far behind. Thanks to the innovations of apple that created a new cheaper standard for products so that they can compete with apple. How is the toolbar not like the mac dock? It has icons on it that open up applications. How about on the start menu the search feature brought to vista? Its exactly like spotlight in os 10. They even use the same coding!

  • @TakessianGaren THEY DO NOT USE THE SAME CODING. I dont know who the hell told you that. The architecture on both of them or so different. Listen here guy. Apple has good ideas. THey really do. BUT Microsoft and Apple are much different. Apple is all about brand name. When you pay for an Apple product you are paying for the Apple brand name and quality. Microsoft has probably learned some things from Apple. But you have no understanding on coding if you say Apple and Microsoft have the same code

  • @TakessianGaren ahaha now apple stole android notification system.

  • Noah I love your shirt *.*

  • Is Noah using the high quality iPad 2 camera?

  • dont dis an operation system untill you try it

  • there's too much opinion and personal speculation here...

  • noah boring ass hell u are damn

  • Apple previewed wwdc because they want people to shut up about the iPhone. It's not gonna happen until later in the year

  • Hay guys not everyone wants apple or isn't that obvious ....

  • :O Mr.Blurrycam ish Noah?

  • are these guys retarded? I don't know where to start at the crap they're going on/complaining about. cannot bare to watch the rest of this turd

  • There wasn't "one more thing" last time.

  • @LewisHNL Yeah there was. It was FaceTime.

  • @mitchishell There wasn't at the iPad 2 announcement, I would link the article but youtube wont let me.

  • Microsoft is scared? Because of the iPad?! Oh no!!! It's a giant wall of icons!!! What shall we do? ... Microsoft has been in the tablet business for a LONG time. Sure, the iFad made it more popular, but it's just a toy. W8 is going to turn tablets into a tool.

    Lion will turn OS X into iOS...YAWN...iCloud is going to be latched to iTunes, so I guess if you're chained it then that's OK, but there are already cloud services.

  • Windows 8 looks good to me.

  • noah good camera 

  • Apple Airheads...Used to work done for them. "OMG so hard, brain hurts, I can't PHYSICALLY move my finger to the scrollbar...ARGGGGHHHH." omg these guys are complete tards rambling about nonsense, the only guys I like is Jon and Jon :D Jon and Jon not rly too much hardcore fanboys, they like looking at all perspectives of good operating systems, and the Chinese(sorry if I got your nationality wrong :/) Jon is REALLY funny! :DDDDDDDDDDD This comment is just my opinion tho, thumbs up if you agree

  • Try to include some pics of the new products which u r talking about.

  • We know all about apple fellas, don't have to rehash

  • Nice calculator you recorded from Noah :D

  • apple has microsoft running scared? lol based on what? how many ipads are sold? please microsoft has sold so many computers and has so much more users than ipads/macs will ever have while this planet still exists lol! these are the type of fan boys that get overly excited over the updates that apple makes on ios like changing text color for example... i love apples "upgrades" they add an "s" to the next model, nothing new...

  • @Dani01c not to mention Microsoft is a huge share holder in Apple which they make major cash from not to mention Microsoft gets $5 from HTC for every Android device sold, they dealed instead of sued which is sweet by M$ cause HTC is awesome, but are suing others over Android patent violations and are likely to get $10 or more for any Android device solve by other manufacturers.

  • THESE ARE SO BORING!!!

    Have a goddamn agenda and stop rambling!

  • @xIlIuzionx don't watch them then.

  • I just hope it will work decent for the desktop, there are still so many pc users out there. I think they're exaggerating the phone/tablet side a bit too much

  • @mariopawnch ??? that doesnt make any sense but ok..

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  • There hasn't been any real changes since the beginning of the computer. Granted, all the advancements have come from hardware internals and software. But the general screen, mouse and keyboard configuration is the same. Why not veer away from this traditional configuration and try something different. To quote Matias Duarte of Google, "computers suck." Furthermore, Steve Jobs is already using the "post PC" term. Clearly the future is demanding that computing goes mobile. Windows 8 is a start.

  • Good job guys. Indeed Microsoft has laced up their track shoes on Win 8.

  • Can't wait to see how Windows 8 is like on a desktop.

  • I don't know why this video is getting so much hate. I think its quite an interesting discussion and these guys are entitled to their opinion.

  • Yes 240/720 lol

  • TAP 5 HAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • what about ipod touch mac os lion marriage shit that steve jobs was waffling bout these are so dum cunts hate this bloke compared to john or soldierknows best

  • The desktop is gunna remain huge for years to come - fact

  • Whoa. Noah, asking where he gets his webcams from, and get one! Good video, ruined by Noah's rubbish cam

  • 8bit noah

  • I don't care much about the video quality. I play angry birds while listening to your interesting conversation. I love this show!!

  • The idea of having Windows 8 on all three types of devices might be an advantage. This I say because the same applications/programs could be used across all three platforms. So, the idea of a unified App Store is interesting - unless Microsoft cocks it up.

  • ios better be good

  • Really exited about Windows 8!! :)

  • What are they talking about?

    Ideally all Tech companies would want to have a common ground.

    What do you think the 'Back to the Mac' Campaign was about last year? Apple wants to unify all their products.

    Its not that hard for professionals to implement these 'touchscreen/keyboard' implementations. The API and SDK have that stuff built-in.

  • These guys sound like ignorant idiots who love getting spoon fed Apple crap.

  • @TechhMann apple is good at advertising?

  • Their talks kind of out dated. If you watch the Google IO, they also going make an one Android version which runs on all tablets and mobile phones. So there will be 1 global OS and it will behave on it's own way based on what kind of device it installed. So that way developers don't need to build the same app for different devices and worrying to optimize it, because OS do that for you. I'm a developer who build Android apps and I still don't know why these 2 reviewers don't get the concept.

  • All of u who r bitching just dont watch the dam video

  • Nice show, but I thought apple already confirmed widgets? Huge stuff from wwdc, can't wait.

  • I am forced to call Apple fanboy! Apple has Microsoft running scared? Apple had the smartphone and slate market bagged but Google stole it out from under them.

    What does Apple have aside from shiney shiney and a dull dead UI?

    If this was an Apple announcement you'd be jizzing in your pants. Completely missing the point and yes Noah as you said "I don't know" so best not to say anything until you are informed.

  • @groMMit1981 I couldn't agree more........ I watch this show and have loved these two discussing the latest and greatest, but this is something i think they've got completely wrong. I've got an Ipad 1 and an iphone 4 and although i really like the design of the hardware, the software has huge limitations that really limit what you can actually do with the devices.... I had intended to go the Android route, but yesterdays anouncement completely changed my mind.. windows unified devices ftw !!!

  • @freddynz Thanks, nice to see another reasonble voice. I was expecting nothing but hate for my comment. Kudos to Apple for pushing the market forward but they were to closed off and locked it down to much leaving it open for Google to swoop in and now Microsoft so come from behind which will bring in unified devices. The coming battles are eagerly awaited as all win win for the consumer.

  • @groMMit1981 I wouldn't say they stole it out from under them but they are definitely moving in very quickly. I saw so many Android phones while waiting to renew my license today it was crazy. I also saw one iPhone 4 and two Blackberries.

  • @groMMit1981 Sorry, as much as I don't believe apple are perfect, and I don't like them that much, they are ahead of the competition. Sure their UI isn't perfect, sure they aren't the best, but they are always first. You can't deny that.

  • @groMMit1981 I get where your coming from, at the same time i get their point.

    While the Windows 8 look, based on what i've seen IMO, woudl be better then iOS or Android for tablets and such, I'm not sure how i feel with it on desktops and laptops. Sure, you can use the traditional windows, which is required for apps ( If im correct.) The problem then is, regular windows apps running on tablets and touch devices.

  • @groMMit1981 I own both Android and Apple devices, and I speak from an objective point of view. Despite a dull and dated default UI Apple has first mover advantage (Larger App store, more and quicker developers support and compatibility with government website for example), better vertical integration (better hardware and software compatibility), more polish OS (I use the Honeycomb OS and iOS, dull as it is has MUCH lesser bug I assure you).

  • AT&T is out of the black iPhone 4's on their website....what do you think about that?

  • Some people need to get their mouths out of google and get real

  • @SillyHatVideos LOL nice

  • olbviously no one likes the bald dude jon something needs to be done

  • @mrheatmichael Actually I think Noah does a fine job..... (though in this case i was a little disappointed in his poor understanding of Windows)

  • Noah I'd be careful with that Sony shirt, don't want it to get hacked now.

  • @SillyHatVideos well played sir.

  • @L0Dawg Thank you 'ol chap.

  • @SillyHatVideos lmao

  • @SillyHatVideos zing

  • So pumped for WWDC!!! :D

  • WOW THESE PEOPLE ARE BUNCH OF IDIOTS!!

  • i see new iTunes logo :D

  • TO ALL FANDROID DOUCHEBAGS:

    just because one likes an apple product, doesn't make them a fanboy. i find it ironic that fandroids always call someone who owns an apple product a fanboy, but then all they do is spam any video with comments about how much ios sucks compared to android. seriously just chill out. lots of people like iOS for obvious reasons and not everyone has to bow down to google. so stfu

  • @willspeaks it owrks both ways

    iv seen people who think that anyone who owns a high end android phone is a fan boy right away

    i have an atrix and im accused of being a apple hater just because i CAN get an iphone

  • i dont understand why people say there's fanboyism in this video towards apple when all theyre doing is saying what they expect to come out of WWDC next week, they arent praising the iphone or ipad or anything, theyre just saying what they see such as the ipad selling like theres no tomorrow.

  • 8bit Noah!! Haha

  • evo 4g getting 2.3 on June 3rd manual update but June 6 everybody will get the notification if you haven't already downloaded it. go settings/system updates/htc software updates. thank you finally been long awaited :)

  • Sony shirt and what I think think is a Nvidia Tegra 2 shirt sponsors? 

  • I'm glad I see more and more smart android users on youtube... google is doing a great job... well done... and ios5 will suck... just like the previous ones did

  • @wssroach how so?

  • Such obvious faggot apple fanboys it's ridiculous lol. Especially the old hipster homosexual on the right

  • @mtazc If you can't be polite then please just don't post anything at all......... !!

  • iPad turn the pc world on it's butt!!

  • Wow, this video seems to contain more apple fanboism then usual.

  • Windows 8 should not be on PCs. It works for tablets and smartphones, but it's not productive on a desktop.

  • milk

    

  • why do i get an error message?

  • I don't think these guys got what just happened. Windows PCs will from now on be touch first, keyboards are still possible, but everything will be optimized for using touch. The old UI is just for legacy support.

    This means MS just moved the goalpost and the distinction between PCs and tablets is moot. If anyone should be feeling the heat now it's Apple

  • 20 fucking minutes!?!?

    No thank you.

  • @stevenwhite2010 Well, most Television programs are around 40min, so 20min should be bearable for most people...

  • nice shirt Noah...didn't they get hacked again today?

  • Am I playing minecraft?..... No that's just moans video quality

  • last time ms moved fast we ended up with vista. Oh no.

  • How is it that MS is scared of Apple? MS has the biggest beast in the room with Windows and is now making the OS all purpose with a WP7-like touch experience that looks to really go right over iPad's head as far a tablet computing goes. Whats a hot mess? You say the problem are the apps, yet HTML5 and Javascript devs are plenty and will no doubt be able to make touch based apps that easily gets translated to M&K. You guys sound like Apple lovers...where was this same fragmentaion talk with Lion

  • QUESTION: can anyone point out how apple have continued being innovative in the last 2 years without mentioning the ipad?

  • Fuck you guys, hooray iphone 5!

  • Noah is that your phone dog mug you are drinking from

  • 8bit Noah!!!!

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  • Excellent show guys, keep up the good work!

  • come on ms don't fuck up... not again please.

  • @JoshJW11 I'll have it! I can live with the software! ;)

  • The harsh truth!

  • i dont think its apple that is scaring microsoft, it is more likely google. mac osx will never threaten windows, it hasnt for over ten years and just never will, the real threat comes from the move into tablets. apples days as number one in tablets is very much limited. i think android will take over within years, we can also see ho chrome is taking over, the google services becoming so powerful and android for phones has taken off. Microsoft i think are doing a good job to counter google

  • Loved it keep it up. =]

  • Hopefully laptops and traditional mice-oriented desktops disappear and instead we see tablets and larger desktop slates take over. That's where Windows 8 could really shine!

  • @YUPnNOPE yeah except that may not happen soon. Without it Windows 8 will suck.

  • apple releases unfinished products all the time, maby they can make use of a delayed iphone and finish it

  • SONY shirt! #LOL

  • I AM GETTING RID OF MY IPHONE! They really havent changed anything since my iPhone 3G, then i got the 3GS and i now have the 4! -__-

  • I think new notifications is a must... But beyond that in iOS I can't really see anything new coming... I mean except for maybe motivations being tie to a better lock screen

  • I don't want OS X to become more like iOS, and the reason is that iOS is just old and tired as an OS....

  • Hopefully iOS 5 will be MAJOR upgrade with useable feature additions. And Windows 8 looks fucking awesome!

  • @krlinn30

    Agree

    Classic sign that you're a fanboy. They will probably deny it but it's pretty obvious that they are, and they are just getting deeper and deeper in denial every time they say they aren't fanboys.

  • Is it just me who dislikes the guy on the right? It's just that he seems like a huge fanboy and wannabe-hipster.

    Apple have never made any huge changes to the iPhone. They make about 1-3 changes each release cycle, and it's not "premium hardware". Sure it has a premium price but hardware wise and software wise it's nothing special.

    By the way, iOS is very fragmented. The iPhone 4, iPhone 3(and down) and the iPad all have different ways of handling software.

  • too long, cmon

  • I like the fact the you can post comments in YouTube but you guys don't show anything on vids, I like what you guys think and talk about the wholes tech industry but you should consider making the podcast audio only available, definitely more people hear it and have opinions :D

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    notice anything?

  • cuteeeeee