TAPS, Ghost Hunters, Buffalo Terminal, DVR DeBunk

[Havingagoodtim3]

I would sue the production company if I were that into the show. To be honest, I like the paranormal etc, but these guys get caught a lot doing these tricks. Same for the episode with the lamp and the cloth. It's sad under my point of view.

[pnut682]

They fake it and good EYE

[Moopy2001]

Did you guys notice the voices are always the same sound depending on gender and age?

I caught two epesodes that were at different locations and both investegations caught someone saying "leave me alone." They were both boys and...

They had the same voice.

Is that just how they pick it up on their camera? Or is it the guy that fakes it?

Please reply!

[ultimatetubetime]

@Moopy2001 what gh does is use the same person aka grant to master the trickery. if the visual is fake, the audible is as real as the video which we know is FAKE. anytime you hear such clear evp's even if you only think it's the same voice, it's FAKE. it is that simple. play both evps and i'm sure you'll hear identical voices.

the alcatraz is without question grant.

[kaymarie00557]

@ultimatetubetime Oh and so you were there to know what goes on? You people and your stupidity firghtens me, thank God there isn't that many of you in the world!

[RayRay460]

lol am I the only one who finds how the "ghost" is walking extremely disturbing? First time I saw it on T.V. I almost cried xD

[irkofan]

@RayRay460 Actually, yeah, the first time I watched it, it looked like some freaky thing with no arms that was waddling about like some half-man half-chicken creature. But, upon closer inspection, it looks like some fella sort of tip-toeing in a hunched position. It's pretty weird, and made more-so by the thermal cam--the thermal doesn't define the shape of limbs and their hinging joints well, so it comes out looking like a stalking monster-man.

[8LiGhTs8]

they hear something really quite like a bird outside and they think there are ghosts. lol what ballers.

[PumaSew]

Umm i just saw this episode and the reason for the angle is that the normal cam was for the hole in the wall. They had it there so they could get a bit of the hallway but mostly the wall since there was a dude that saw two ghosts drinking water there. And the thermal cam was placed by grant since they had a feeling about hearing footsteps. But they did not want to stay and film the thermal down the hallway all night so they put it on the ground so it whould film the hallway and not the wall

[ultimatetubetime]

@PumaSew Umm the reason for the angle IS what you see in the debunk NOT for any other reason. They have to have two different angles to create the illusion one camera did not record the guy er' "entity." Notice too they DO NOT reference the difference in angle. They direct your attention to the time stamps, NEVER the difference in the camera angles & that IS the cover up.

[SimsOMGplayer]

LOL I love the music when GHI epically fails.

[Noblewar]

of course they are not going to catch shit on the IR cam the fucking IR doesnt even reach to the end of the hall! anyone could probably see further with natural night vision that their shot on here

[ultimatetubetime]

@Noblewar the bigger issue is their blatant attempt to lie. The cameras have different focal strength, each record images differently, & worse they are not angled the same. Let's point one down the hall & the other INTO a wall. How fans can believe these guys is more scary than any ghostly interaction could ever be

[qbert1345]

haha ultimatetubetime's last response and your's are funny in too many way's to list, thank you, lmfao.

[dparker716]

@QBERT1345 what are u slow a fox the terminal is in the middle of the east side of buffalo theres no fox's running around the city of buffalo and i can tell u that cause i live here, and a big cat what? thats def somethin only a rump would think or say

[qbert1345]

@HitomiYutsuko i would agree if this vid was all that was captured or "aired" but its missing a part of the thermal where the figure moves right to left at the beginning, goes off camera to the right, then moves back on camera from the left (which is the only part we see here) that missing part here shows it having four seperate legs and was shown on that episode as well.

[64talb]

obviously the cameras cant be at the same angle, they r two different cameras placed in two different spots thus different angles. especially if they r on tri-pods they will be spaces quite a bit.

[ultimatetubetime]

@64talb GH bases the evidence on the EXACT camera angles. They aren't the same type of cameras, & they don't have the same focal strength so for GH to claim it's legit (when you can clearly see it's someone pulling a prank) based on an identical camera angle theory when they are not IS the evidence...against them.

By the way they are not in two different places. They are side by side, which is the

reason they claim it must be real, yet don't honestly say why It's not.

[harpo103]

Who ever it is............dances pretty well.

[flyking138]

the show is boring as hell anymore. it's like they purposely only investigate locations that they can debunk. they never go to locations that are haunted at all and you have steve and tango 'training' people to be ghost hunters on their ghost hunters academy show. all you ever see steve and tango doing is eating bugs, being scared by bugs/bats and steve betting tango to do stupid shit. it's ridiculous. why is it that j and g are the only people that ever have personal experiences? it's b.s.

[qbert1345]

seriously? camera angle is your evidence of debunking this? lmfao. don't know, real or not,i wasn't there. To me, the "sway" or "waddle" as it walks, looks like the rear/front angle of a dog, fox, maybe even a large cat walking at the end of the hall, and you know wild animals can be pretty damn stealthy. No one else see's that, wow?

[ultimatetubetime]

@qbert1345 They base the evidence on the EXACT camera angles when they are not, nor are the same type, nor do they have the same focal strength so to claim it's legit based on identical camera angles when they are not IS the evidence...against them.

[ProxAyeMox]

@ultimatetubetime this isnt evidence against them lol , even if it was faced down the hall the light wouldnt of caught it either and they had that camera set up for another purpose to catch something lol butthurt much

[qbert1345]

@ultimatetubetime so lemme understand this... the whole debunk claim is based on the theory of having a camera that can simultaneously record a night vision/regular and a thermal image at the same time, lol? since that is the only way possible to have the exact angle, time, and focus... then awesome thx for that insight and helping me debunk your debunk! :)

[ultimatetubetime]

@qbert1345 You obviously write before you think. 2 cameras, different focal lengths, different imagery, different angles. A REAL investigation would've placed someone down the hall to insure BOTH cameras could record them with comparable clarity based on their capture ability. They don't do that nor do they place them at the same angle because...they know thy can't. Study photography before you THINK you can study the video. Your debunk of this FAKE video was just debunked.

[qbert1345]

@ultimatetubetime hehe thats awesome, i didn't state "EXACT camera angles" in my argument lol. don't have to be a cinematographer to know you can't have the same shot and angle with two different camera's at the same time. either way not trying to steal your "thunder" so i'll leave it be. don't have a thermal, but i will send you a link, this week or next when i can get to it and upload it, of a similar silhouette walking. recorded with a normal camera in daylight and let you decide yourself :)

[soberdave1971]

@qbert1345 the easiest debunk is a thermal imager is no different than an IR thermometer - it just shows us surface temperatures in a way we can see. It will only pick up something giving off heat - something solid. But of course there are two angles, because you would actually see the person that was walking at the end of the hall. Smoke and mirrors, using a $5000 thermometer.

[vinson1445]

You're giving them too much credit. I think the "ghost" could walk right up to the cameras, smiled and waved, and you wouldn't see a hint of it on the DVR after a couple days worth of "reviewing the evidence". These guys are techno geeks and that time stamp means nothing to me.

[laura20022004]

It's like a penquin this is just freaky

[ParaGlitter]

Even if the cameras had been pointing in the same direction (which they are not! as your video clearly proves,) the end of the hall is all black, & it's not the clearest of images on the DVR, so, someone wearing all black (including a black hood/face mask) could be skulking around back there & we'd never see them.

[hop21537]

how are u! good i see! i cant wait till they are put on the spot. no matter if they have a pre planed plan, its going to be good! i was told they are loosing fans and followers daily! do u think thats acurate!

[ultimatetubetime]

The show's tired. They cannot pull another coat tug. They hit the paranormal plateau with that stunt so they've been living on their notoriety since that special. That only lasts so long. They should get yanked but may get another season, if only because they think they can milk to death what's left of theIr already dried cash cow.

[itshaunteddotcom]

I have been in that same location in the same hall. To the left is the old water fountain pulled from the wall! The place (old train terminal) has history and it's a GREAT building, but this particular instance it's NOT a ghost however a wondering worker who did NOT belong at the end of the hall.

[ultimatetubetime]

Here's the best part. UGH! This is getting sooooo tiring...'

They just happen to place both cameras side by side & by chance one of them captures a figure while they other doesn't.

While the dvr angle is off, I do not believe it was a mistake.

Yet another convenient capture. If this had only shown on the thermal, they'd be less inclinded to call it odd.

Although they have done this before with "figures," from afar. But if it's not on the dvr it must be paranormal. No it's a nice & STUPID set up.

[rubyredlipstick71]

You have some debunking to do tonight UTT. GHI is on, and I'm sure, just like their claim in the Hitler episode, they'll have some amazing evidence (they altered) to prove just how incredible that place was to investigate. =D

As for this, yes, it can be argued that it is still facing the hall, but it's so dark, I don't understand why they would bother to show it. Jay & Grant are only trying to stretch out the inevitable and that is Ghost Hunters being canceled for falsifying their evidence

[ultimatetubetime]

Some will argue the dvr can still "see," down the hall. It's "focus," is the wall around the area of the 2nd window or hole in the wall. they cannot compare the "side by side," footage if the angle is off so much that it's not an identical line of sight. we also don't know the strength of that dvr compared to that of the thermal.

[screamfreak79]

Another good point.

Mike