I honestly don't see why its nooby to use a SO sure you can easily kill but it sucks if you miss unlike the gnasher which ridiculous range can one hit kill like the SO plus fast reload and more shots.
This weapon is noobs, look at 0:36 min, even give him the shot to the center of the character, and end up going down, sorry for this but do not need any skill with this weapon, there is the proof.
I understand that they wanted to put another shotgun in the game to keep it alive, but the sawed-off was definitely NOT the best choice. It was a very stupid idea to put a fucking "hand cannon" in the game. It literally tears through anything or anyone you shoot at.
SO reload is NOT slow enough i lost count the amount of times a SO user has missed me and run in circles round some cover so he can reload again ime in the game to fight NOT chase rabbits lol
It's not the weapons fault. It's how the users play with it. This just isn't gears of war 1 and yeah I know sometimes I miss the old shotty battles. This game is balanced and it is not broken. But I do believe that many of the players are warping the boundaries of the game. Opinions? No Flamers lol.
@CommandoANG3L0 Yeah you are right. I mean, I have seen people play with the Gnasher the way people play with the sawed-off. Everyone's playstyle is different. You've got rushers and supporters, especially in Gears 3 where the team play is truly the core of the gameplay now.
Wtf man why is everyone bitching?? Jst use all the weapons in the game man. U could argue that the bop shot is a noob weapon as u jst hav to fire near the enemy and they die. (I don't argue this btw, but u could)
sawed off is great. gansher is great. retro lancer is great. lancer and hammerburst are great. snub pistol? is great. smoke grenades are great. my nipples are great. i use them all, because i dont bitch about weapons in a game. \m/
people who complain about the retro and sawed off are just people who are stupid enough to rush them by them self. The game is well balanced compared to others. to me its perfect. I use the Hammerburst and Gnasher and thats good with me.
and f.y.i try it out.. aim it to the person left or right not directly in front of the person and they will reward you the crap kill.. -_- yea... thats real skill. with the gnasher u would completley miss the shot. smh. Gnasher requires way more skill.
The sawed off is clearly a noob weapon. It requires no skill what so ever. I used it against people who had gnashers and they shot me twice and i would kill them one shot.. I only used it to get the medal, but i didnt brag about my k/d ratio while usin it becuz its not a skill gun. its really easy to get close to even the most skilled gears players with that noobie weapon. also i did a private match to test out how over powered it was. i meleed and missed and shot the sawed off and won. smh
the thing i hate about the gnasher is that when i see a person with one and i dont have a shot gun myself i start to run away and they start chasing me and there way beyond one shot range and they shot me no more thn 3 times from far away aand im downed its impossible to dot hat with the sawed off unless there right on tom of you also when poeple use any kind of shotgun only through the whole game
with the Gnasher on the other hand it can do damage from half way across the map yes it might take a bit more skill to aim but with the damage range it has you can down a person with 3 shots and be 3 times melee range away so the sawed off wouldn't do shit to you
The Sawed off's range cancels out its power and the bullet spread cant be more than 30 degrees to each side and even with the spread they still have to be at melee range to do anything and if there even more than an inch away from melee range the most it could do is down you.
Sawed off is way to over. Powerrd to be a spawn weapon it should be a map based weapon and theyy need to fix the respawn on weapons im sick of weapob hoarding canpers that grab the powrr weapons and camp in the back of the map and you have no chance of winning!!
@dcelio3 to ur comment about the sawd off.. i really disagry with what you said its not a weapon that only noobs use.. all because its easy and high powered at close range doesnt mean that the best of players cant use it.. its a good and quick way to kill an enemy from up close.
sawd off is nooby end of story any pethetic arguement like the range or reload is irelivent because of the ease of use hell epic made it as a noob weapon its made for noobs at the game its made for people so bad they cant use a gnasher
I don't get why people complain about the sawed-off. Lets compare the shotguns. The gnasher has what, 8 shots per clip? and about 16 bullets in total? and it has a good enough range to take down assault rifle users. The sawed-off has ONE shot per clip. And only 4 shots in total. It also has HORRIBLE range. Sawed-off users have to be tactical so that they don't miss because if they do they are FUCKED. Gnasher users just stupidly fire until you're downed. If anything the gnasher is a noob weapon.
@xFallenLegacy Nothing to do with bullet clip size with the shotguns. Gnasher requires hard aiming whereas i can be at a 45 degree angle and still get a kill, hellbo is absolutly right. also gnasher people stupidly fire? if you did that my friend you'd get no kills. Ill happily invite you to a private match and show you how unskilled it is to use.
Its a camp, shot and run away gun. The greatest skill you need with this gun is staying still long enough and not getting bored. I have played gears since it came out 4 years ago and this gun is a let down in the series. I choose not to use it because i wouldnt lower myself. I like to get my kills with a bit of skill attached.
The retro isn't a noob weapon. Shotgunners hate it because they have a one track mind. Roll towards their about and jibb them. Try that sh*t with a retro user and you'll get turned into Swiss Cheese. That gun was specifically design to combat players that like to roll jibb.
sawed off isn't nooby, its powerful yeah but at close range otherwise its useless, and it has one bullet and a long reload time, if anything it takes more skill
the stupidest thing is the sawed off have a longer range one shot killed compare to the gnasher (i tested it with my friends) so in a shotgun battle, the guy with the gnasher has to be extra skill to time and find a distance which he can down the noob with the sawed off first. So, yes swaed off are for noobs, same thing goes with the retro lancer
If Epic makes it so people holding the sawed-off run slightly slower I wouldn't care then because at least I could run away and then shoot them with my lancer... Other than that, people may just have to remember to switch to their lancer/hammer/retro and stay at a distance when fighting a sawed-off.
2:38 is whats wrong with the sawn off, otherwise the reload and range make up for the strength. And if you want to check is there is someone round a corner then throw a fucking SMOKE a see is you here "incoming smoke" or "SMOOOKE". Problem solved
Easy way to fix the sawed off is to make it where you can't hip fire it. You have to aim down the sights, also make it where it only shoots what is front of you not what is 180 degrees front of u
@Onimushas80 I completely agree with you, another way to fix it is to add a level cap on it. Epic said that it's there for the newer players right? Then you're only "new" to a certain level. They should only be able to use it by level 30-40 then it should be unable to be used by the player.
the sawed off is only noob like if some one camps around a corner i move around its not always easy to get close to your target depending on there player style if they use rifles its difficult but if they use gnasher its not that bad besides im tryin to get all the executions on here and to do that i have to use it now because i have the gnasher execution all i can say bout the execution is ffooorrreeee
bullshit its a nooby gun theres no skill all you do is pull the trigger and youre killing ppl i hate it because you cant play the dam game i camp but camping with a sawn off is just noobing it out they need to change the power or half the power and give it two bullets
the only thing i have against the sawoff is that if its a 1v1 with a gnasher the sawoff will win 85% of the time so. p.s (B) - skill = pro weeeeee!!!!!!!!
i hate the sawed off but the retro is a different story i have been able to cross map people with it people scream mod because of the recoil and reticle expansion. its very simple to use it if you have any experiece with it and use it alot burst fire=death and also the charge isnt like the original lancer you need distance for that you cant just rev up right there you have to get some distance and charge to get the kill like i said i hate the dbs but retro takes alot of skill to use right.
True the DBS (Sawed off Shotgun) range is a bit wide so anyone can own in an online round but, the flaws in the gun foreshadows its potential. Just got to know how your opponent is playing in the match. If he or she does not shoot till there 2-3 steps away from you then that person is wielding a DBS so distance yourself until that player waste his shot or out-range him with another firearm.
I agree that the Sawed off's range is too big, but there are ways to avoid it, its a better challenge for those experienced " Gear " heads like me to learn to adapt to situations like this. Its the same for those noobies who constantly go around chainsawing people.
i agree the spread should be reduced a little bit, but you can tell when some has the sawed-off.. they just try to charge you, keep your distance and out range them w/ the gnasher. It really is quite annoying but it isn't too hard to beat the kids who use it. the retro lancer really is not OP at all IMO. the recoil is horrible, you have to be real close w/ it to do good
if u didnt know the sawed off has a light on it now so you can see if someone has it. it will make less people rage...but it doesnt hurt the gun at all...
I can totally understand a really powerfull weapon with a long reload, but when that weapon doesn't really need any skill to use and all you need to do is walk up to someone and pull the trigger that's when i have a problem with it. I know you can say you need skill to get up close to someone of avoiding people when you reload but it's as easy as hiding around a corner then running away. That''s how i feel about the sawed off but I love the retro lancer <3
and this is what you get when you put in the no noob left behind policy you get stupid fucks like this who think there good because they use noob load outs like this in which i quote the same weapon that were put in to help noobs because they couldnt keep up with the players who actually know how to play which almost ruins most games online multiplayer mode completely
Can you play the game without the Gnasher or the sawed off. Im just wondering cos in every game ive seen people just shot-gun players to hell! everyone has the same kills. I want to get the third but it looks boring, if the only way to get kills shot-guning people.
the sawed off shotgun is a noob gun. why? because in one of the interview videos of the epic crew (i'm talking about the dedicated execution video) i believe thats the video. cliff or fergurson. (excuse my fail spelling) state that the gun is for people who are beginners and then after they can move on to be better with the gnasher. i'm pretty sure it's the dedicated execution video though. thumbs up so people can see and stop fucking complaining
I dont think the sawed off shotgun is a noob gun because its got a very short range and take a long time to reload so if u miss your first shot and could get easily killed. The gun takes skill to use against a gnaser
People who complain about a stick shift transmission cars are people who don't know how to drive one... Same with these weapons, people who complain about SO & RL are people who cant get amazing kills with them.
I think honestly the Retro lancer is perfectly balanced in the beta, the weapon was during the Pendulum wars before the longer range Saw-Lancer, and the recoil and the spread of the bullets is also perfect considering it is harder to hit people running away or camping on the other side of the map, the dmg is so high because its a close range weapon, and if u have a weak close range weapon, most likely more often than not, ur gonna die by a shotty, Whoever think the Retro is OP can't use it.
Anyone who thinks the Sawed-Off sucks, a noob weapon, or "cheap" can talk once they get the massive cock out of their mouth. You have to be up-close-and-personal with it, which makes it balanced. Also the reload time being really long makes it fair. Stop being babies and learn how to use the weapon
@BeyondCemetaryGates maybe if the game wasn't so heavily centered towards close combat situations almost 90% of the time sure, but since it is not, the sawed off is weapon to cater to noobs that can be used with no effort.
you cant do Great with it, but its easy to get a 1.0 or higher.. get that easy 1 shot kill, and either get killed after that, or run away and reload to get another easy kill...
y can't ppl play games becuz there just fun, i play gears of war because its just fun as hell, i can't find another game where i have as much fun, and headshots are so rewarding in this game,especially with a torque bow, a headshot with a torque bow is the most rewarding thing ever haha, and i have to say i think the weapons are balanced, i mean if ur a good enough player u'll find a way to kill someone who's wielding the sawed-off
It actually wrecks the game in my opinion. EPIC would have done better to have the flamethrower as the option to replace the Gnasher while putting the Sawn Off in as a pickup weapon. The Retro Lancer needs fixing too.
it makes it rediculously hard to kill anyone because they use cover to get up close range with the gnasher. They need to make a game type that removes the shotgun, as well as a game mode that removes the assault rifles, like a shotgun slayer or assault rifle slayer
People say retro is overpowered because they run up to them out in the open mindlessly. If everybody stayed at a long range I bet people would cry about the hammerburst too. No weapon you can start off with is overpowered or a "noob weapon" it's always been like that for gears of war games. People cried about people using the lancer in gears one also. It's because they just like to jump around with a shotgun the whole time (I do this too, but I also *think* about what gun is best to use each tim
@IcameIsawIpwned No you can class wepons as "Noob wepons" because it takes less skill to kill someone with a sawed off than a gnasher and chainsaw is a noob way to get a kill too
@HaloSwordKing If you let them get close enough to chainsaw you, you deserve it, if you see them running up to you and then get blasted by a sawed off, you deserve it, if you run out into the open when somebody's using a retro lancer, you deserve it, it's easy to kill some noob using a retro, sawed off, whatever, if they're a noob then they're easy to kill. If you get killed by a noob using something you call a "noob weapon" you made a mistake no matter what way you look at it.
@IcameIsawIpwned The game has a certain balance it is true. And there is no point complaining about weapons being 'noobish'. But that doesn't change the fact that the balance of the game is drastically thrown off by the introduction of these extra weapons. Too many cooks spoil the broth and whatnot.
haha i dont care if i get called a noob and have no skill...i won the match...i ended the beta with a 3.5 k/d and 1102 wins and 89 losses...guess i have no skill
@AlwaysImBored I don't think the Retro Lancer is noobish at all. Ok, it's a really powerful weapon. But the Hammerburst is too powerful at long range and the Lancer is too accurate at long range. The Retro lancer is just not accurate at all and you have to play it correctly if you want to kill with that weapon. Otherwise, I hate people who plays Retro Lancer ( or Hammerburst/Lancer ) everytime, also in Melee. Epic put Shotgun in that game, use it in melee...
Retro and DBS are for noobs it's as simple as that OP pieces of shit and i'm sick of them being spammed EVERY game i play they better patch that shit i mean i've loved gears of war up till now even number 2 with it's shitty connection issues.
THE SAWED OFF IS FOR FUCKING NOOBS, i am a good shotgunner, i am a skilled gnasher user but IT IS PISS EASY TO GET KILLS WITH SAWED OFF. u sprint up to enemy, press ONE button, get a cheap kill and run away WERE IS THE SKILL!
1. The whole point of a shot gun is it to be used close range so if you can one shot people with any shot gun its OP.
2. The retro lance is OP because you almost never fight super long range and it can kill some one in half a second from mid to short range, while the normal lancer takes like 2 seconds to kill someone.
@mrNoFoe Yea, so it slows down the whole game. I loved gears for fast paced gnasher shotgunning. not it's slow paced retro and sawed off fags all day long
Nice gameplay and commentary. And it's great you let people finish enemies they downed, I hate douchebags that try to steal your kills. I wish there was more players like you.
@pingo57 i mean i agree 100 % i saw better shit in the reach beta.I personally was not going to play the beta after all of the bullshit until i played cap the leader now that is worth playing.Now epic they are thieves and that IS THE FINAL PRODUCT!!!!If you know epic games they are not going to change shit.Everything is and will be overpowered idc if its a beta or not i mean ill play CTL THATS IT!!!TDM shit is just stupid and a personal bad idea.
It is extremely easy to get kills with and takes very little skill to use, and that is why it'll be considered a noob weapon for the rest of the beta period.. Although I do agree with you, it is fairly balanced considering the range, ammo, and reload time..
I played this beta, it is not balanced at all not only did epic lie about the servers they also lied about the charecters now i do think that the sawd of is too over powered and so is the retro lancer and so is the hammerburst with actives and please i do not want to hear the hammerburst takes "skill to use" that was the case in GoW 1 when it was an actual burst of bullets this game is honestly quite garbage i do not want to hear "It's just the beta" because i mean shit look at the reach beta.
@supermaggot777 jaja you gonna pissed off, but actually is a beta, its a test game, not the final version, so i think you must post your opinion in the geras of war site.
the real bad thing is that those EPIC THIEVES get paid for a damn beta, for a stupid test game.
The sawed-off is a noob weapon don't have to aim or anything just fire close range no skill needed, but it's good for the average player because they won't be skilled enough for the Nasher
Retro and Sawed off are garbage and only garbage kids use it, I play MLG and GB for gears so I wont have to worry about it when the actual games come out, but both guns are trash and people shouldnt have to use it period.
gold retro lancer...my choice of guns is flame hammer burst and gnasher sawed off is alright just annoying when you get triplle teamed or when u get raped
Just a small tip for you. You may want to use the female character for your COG instead of Cole because she is skinnier and harder to hit. Also for the Locusts use the one on the far right of the top row. Its called Savage Theron I think.
I dont think the double barrel is over powered, because it's completely fair to be that strong. It takes SO long to reload and range is low and you don't get many shots.
retro lancer is OP as fuck, yet so is the hammerburst and so is the active reloaded lancer. and so is the gnasher. basically, when you use your guns well enough they become OP.
the retro lancer's recoil can be compensated by burst firing 3 at a time. active reloaded it takes only 3 bursts to down an enemy. thats retarded compared to hammerburst and lancer.
Well, in every game there's always gonna be one gun that everyone uses and earns the title of the 'noob' weapon or the overpowered weapon just because it's really good
A person asked Rod Ferguson on Twitter, if you can get the unlockables when the full game comes out. Even though it defeats the point* it will be hard to get.
I honestly don't see why its nooby to use a SO sure you can easily kill but it sucks if you miss unlike the gnasher which ridiculous range can one hit kill like the SO plus fast reload and more shots.
combo153 2 weeks ago
This weapon is noobs, look at 0:36 min, even give him the shot to the center of the character, and end up going down, sorry for this but do not need any skill with this weapon, there is the proof.
santoy117 3 weeks ago
I understand that they wanted to put another shotgun in the game to keep it alive, but the sawed-off was definitely NOT the best choice. It was a very stupid idea to put a fucking "hand cannon" in the game. It literally tears through anything or anyone you shoot at.
FFAxFeared 1 month ago
SO reload is NOT slow enough i lost count the amount of times a SO user has missed me and run in circles round some cover so he can reload again ime in the game to fight NOT chase rabbits lol
reddwarff00 1 month ago
I see how people "earn" their level 100... fuckin sawed-off noobs -_-
EmbodiedArgosax 1 month ago
It's not the weapons fault. It's how the users play with it. This just isn't gears of war 1 and yeah I know sometimes I miss the old shotty battles. This game is balanced and it is not broken. But I do believe that many of the players are warping the boundaries of the game. Opinions? No Flamers lol.
marchingeagle01 1 month ago
@marchingeagle01 I definietly agree. If Epic made the Gnasher like that, people would probably bitch about that too.
CommandoANG3L0 1 month ago
@CommandoANG3L0 Yeah you are right. I mean, I have seen people play with the Gnasher the way people play with the sawed-off. Everyone's playstyle is different. You've got rushers and supporters, especially in Gears 3 where the team play is truly the core of the gameplay now.
marchingeagle01 1 month ago
MALDITOS GRINGOS RECORTEROS ¬¬
KOSTXxpHaNtOmxX 1 month ago
*boomshot
SnipezKingXD 1 month ago
Wtf man why is everyone bitching?? Jst use all the weapons in the game man. U could argue that the bop shot is a noob weapon as u jst hav to fire near the enemy and they die. (I don't argue this btw, but u could)
SnipezKingXD 1 month ago
well i had my damn ham, and it was damn good. Now im gonna go use my gnasher to kill cogs.
15wabostank 1 month ago
guns like this should a max level to use it because in a pros hands a noob weapon is to cheap
TheChinkest 2 months ago
You used the cheatest weapon on GeOW 3. YOU are a noob !
Caligulonche 2 months ago
sawed off is great. gansher is great. retro lancer is great. lancer and hammerburst are great. snub pistol? is great. smoke grenades are great. my nipples are great. i use them all, because i dont bitch about weapons in a game. \m/
15wabostank 2 months ago
@15wabostank Sawed-Off and Retro are OP as fuck. You'd have to be retareded not to see that.
FormalSocks 2 months ago
@FormalSocks did i ever say they werent over powered? but the gnasher and hammer/lancer can be just as affective if you know how to use them. dumbass
15wabostank 2 months ago
@15wabostank The way you worded it implied they were equal, which they clearly are not. Chill out and go eat some Christmas ham.
FormalSocks 2 months ago
You kno if they put the hammer of dawn in multi player, it could probly be a noob weapn if constntly used
apollusb 3 months ago
Gnasher and hammerburst thats the way to go the sawed off takes no skill
GAMBITxNUMx1 3 months ago
people who complain about the retro and sawed off are just people who are stupid enough to rush them by them self. The game is well balanced compared to others. to me its perfect. I use the Hammerburst and Gnasher and thats good with me.
HARDCOREKID524 3 months ago
Couldn't help but notice you fail with the gnasher ,bruh
KambertEm 3 months ago
Shotguns in gears are noob weapons but the sawed-off takes noob to another level
TXC517 3 months ago
@TXC517 Gnasher isn't a noob weapon.
Nitram316 2 months ago
Nice gameplay
RyanSamson100 3 months ago
Sawed off is a slightly Noobish weapon, but the retro lancer is the fuckin noobiest weapon.
ShadyJ96 3 months ago
and f.y.i try it out.. aim it to the person left or right not directly in front of the person and they will reward you the crap kill.. -_- yea... thats real skill. with the gnasher u would completley miss the shot. smh. Gnasher requires way more skill.
kllacor 3 months ago
The sawed off is clearly a noob weapon. It requires no skill what so ever. I used it against people who had gnashers and they shot me twice and i would kill them one shot.. I only used it to get the medal, but i didnt brag about my k/d ratio while usin it becuz its not a skill gun. its really easy to get close to even the most skilled gears players with that noobie weapon. also i did a private match to test out how over powered it was. i meleed and missed and shot the sawed off and won. smh
kllacor 3 months ago
the thing i hate about the gnasher is that when i see a person with one and i dont have a shot gun myself i start to run away and they start chasing me and there way beyond one shot range and they shot me no more thn 3 times from far away aand im downed its impossible to dot hat with the sawed off unless there right on tom of you also when poeple use any kind of shotgun only through the whole game
Silv3rBull3tGaming 3 months ago
so i say the sawed off is perfectly balanced and that they need to nerf the Gnashers damage range to just a little over the sawed offs one shot range
Silv3rBull3tGaming 3 months ago
@Silv3rBull3tGaming kill yourself.
Nitram316 2 months ago
with the Gnasher on the other hand it can do damage from half way across the map yes it might take a bit more skill to aim but with the damage range it has you can down a person with 3 shots and be 3 times melee range away so the sawed off wouldn't do shit to you
Silv3rBull3tGaming 3 months ago
The Sawed off's range cancels out its power and the bullet spread cant be more than 30 degrees to each side and even with the spread they still have to be at melee range to do anything and if there even more than an inch away from melee range the most it could do is down you.
Silv3rBull3tGaming 3 months ago
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Silv3rBull3tGaming 3 months ago
Sawed off is way to over. Powerrd to be a spawn weapon it should be a map based weapon and theyy need to fix the respawn on weapons im sick of weapob hoarding canpers that grab the powrr weapons and camp in the back of the map and you have no chance of winning!!
snow6man9 3 months ago
Sawed off requires zero skill. "It's a tampon, every pussy needs one."
huZky18 3 months ago 13
@huZky18 commenting on youtube requires zero skill. "opinions are like assholes; everybody has one."
Arse7assassin 3 months ago
@Arse7assassin What is your opinion on the new sawed off update? Trolololo la, la-la-la, la-la-la oh hahahaho!
JosephMartinezful 3 months ago
@Arse7assassin that made no sense. nice try tho
uzibitch1 3 months ago
@huZky18 The sawed off is so noobs stand a chance,it provides balance.
sonex1203 3 months ago
@huZky18 pussy nooby weapon or not, i still need that onyx medal ;) see you in-game.
MEHboi616 1 week ago
fuck the sawed off cant stand that damn thing
metal4lyfe444 3 months ago
NOOB!!! nuff said
dcelio3 4 months ago
@dcelio3 to ur comment about the sawd off.. i really disagry with what you said its not a weapon that only noobs use.. all because its easy and high powered at close range doesnt mean that the best of players cant use it.. its a good and quick way to kill an enemy from up close.
dragonator11 4 months ago
sawd off is nooby end of story any pethetic arguement like the range or reload is irelivent because of the ease of use hell epic made it as a noob weapon its made for noobs at the game its made for people so bad they cant use a gnasher
TheGRAclan 4 months ago
I don't get why people complain about the sawed-off. Lets compare the shotguns. The gnasher has what, 8 shots per clip? and about 16 bullets in total? and it has a good enough range to take down assault rifle users. The sawed-off has ONE shot per clip. And only 4 shots in total. It also has HORRIBLE range. Sawed-off users have to be tactical so that they don't miss because if they do they are FUCKED. Gnasher users just stupidly fire until you're downed. If anything the gnasher is a noob weapon.
xFallenLegacy 4 months ago
@xFallenLegacy Nothing to do with bullet clip size with the shotguns. Gnasher requires hard aiming whereas i can be at a 45 degree angle and still get a kill, hellbo is absolutly right. also gnasher people stupidly fire? if you did that my friend you'd get no kills. Ill happily invite you to a private match and show you how unskilled it is to use.
ImAMentalPatient 4 months ago
Its a camp, shot and run away gun. The greatest skill you need with this gun is staying still long enough and not getting bored. I have played gears since it came out 4 years ago and this gun is a let down in the series. I choose not to use it because i wouldnt lower myself. I like to get my kills with a bit of skill attached.
CMAKD 4 months ago
The retro isn't a noob weapon. Shotgunners hate it because they have a one track mind. Roll towards their about and jibb them. Try that sh*t with a retro user and you'll get turned into Swiss Cheese. That gun was specifically design to combat players that like to roll jibb.
D2dshnm 4 months ago
sawed off isn't nooby, its powerful yeah but at close range otherwise its useless, and it has one bullet and a long reload time, if anything it takes more skill
BIGBADmouse1 4 months ago
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FulyHop 4 months ago
the stupidest thing is the sawed off have a longer range one shot killed compare to the gnasher (i tested it with my friends) so in a shotgun battle, the guy with the gnasher has to be extra skill to time and find a distance which he can down the noob with the sawed off first. So, yes swaed off are for noobs, same thing goes with the retro lancer
tonyli9323 4 months ago
Its for a completly fucking noobs, yeah, rechrge.. but all people recharge runing like a fucking noobs.
morodoFan1 4 months ago
If Epic makes it so people holding the sawed-off run slightly slower I wouldn't care then because at least I could run away and then shoot them with my lancer... Other than that, people may just have to remember to switch to their lancer/hammer/retro and stay at a distance when fighting a sawed-off.
DJridlin 4 months ago
I Have The Same Retro Lancer As You You Unlock It If You Survive 10 Waves Of Horde You Get It
gearsofdaf 4 months ago
2:38 is whats wrong with the sawn off, otherwise the reload and range make up for the strength. And if you want to check is there is someone round a corner then throw a fucking SMOKE a see is you here "incoming smoke" or "SMOOOKE". Problem solved
le2k8 4 months ago
Easy way to fix the sawed off is to make it where you can't hip fire it. You have to aim down the sights, also make it where it only shoots what is front of you not what is 180 degrees front of u
Onimushas80 4 months ago 4
@Onimushas80 I completely agree with you, another way to fix it is to add a level cap on it. Epic said that it's there for the newer players right? Then you're only "new" to a certain level. They should only be able to use it by level 30-40 then it should be unable to be used by the player.
Kanter117 3 months ago
its a noob weapon. aka its easy to down or kill someone
MrAwesomeOThingy 4 months ago
the sawed off is only noob like if some one camps around a corner i move around its not always easy to get close to your target depending on there player style if they use rifles its difficult but if they use gnasher its not that bad besides im tryin to get all the executions on here and to do that i have to use it now because i have the gnasher execution all i can say bout the execution is ffooorrreeee
Zachtheemo 4 months ago
sawed off =NOOB gnasher=PRO
agentsnake47 4 months ago
@agentsnake47 Agreed. I only use it in Horde.
N3rf0r 4 months ago
to me people make the sawed off terible because they just camp around the corner and wait -_-
terrancem55 4 months ago
This kid is a noob, anyone who uses a sawed off is a complete bitch.
SkatingwithaBONER 4 months ago
bullshit its a nooby gun theres no skill all you do is pull the trigger and youre killing ppl i hate it because you cant play the dam game i camp but camping with a sawn off is just noobing it out they need to change the power or half the power and give it two bullets
lynchyigo 4 months ago
the only thing i have against the sawoff is that if its a 1v1 with a gnasher the sawoff will win 85% of the time so. p.s (B) - skill = pro weeeeee!!!!!!!!
deadfrost85 4 months ago
Lol this commentator is fucking stupid. He would get retro'd by me before he could even get near me. Ignorance is bliss. Retro+gnasher
TheUglySpartan 5 months ago
it,s a true noob gun i only use it when im getting pissed of in a match.
bigcjk 5 months ago
i just use the swwed of in campigh
willyzavala1 5 months ago
The sawed off is worse overall than the Gnasher. But it is a lot more fun :3 shit for gunfights, great for ambushes!
ABritishGamer 5 months ago
no top comments? BANNANA
mattysniper2k81 5 months ago
i hate the sawed off but the retro is a different story i have been able to cross map people with it people scream mod because of the recoil and reticle expansion. its very simple to use it if you have any experiece with it and use it alot burst fire=death and also the charge isnt like the original lancer you need distance for that you cant just rev up right there you have to get some distance and charge to get the kill like i said i hate the dbs but retro takes alot of skill to use right.
Zachtheemo 5 months ago
True the DBS (Sawed off Shotgun) range is a bit wide so anyone can own in an online round but, the flaws in the gun foreshadows its potential. Just got to know how your opponent is playing in the match. If he or she does not shoot till there 2-3 steps away from you then that person is wielding a DBS so distance yourself until that player waste his shot or out-range him with another firearm.
ChaosZero 5 months ago
I agree that the Sawed off's range is too big, but there are ways to avoid it, its a better challenge for those experienced " Gear " heads like me to learn to adapt to situations like this. Its the same for those noobies who constantly go around chainsawing people.
Pracerdohczx2 5 months ago
i agree the spread should be reduced a little bit, but you can tell when some has the sawed-off.. they just try to charge you, keep your distance and out range them w/ the gnasher. It really is quite annoying but it isn't too hard to beat the kids who use it. the retro lancer really is not OP at all IMO. the recoil is horrible, you have to be real close w/ it to do good
Teztost3rpwn 5 months ago
the spread is FAR too big
bobbins05 5 months ago
I think people should use qhatever they want to use
ToastedDiamond 5 months ago
fuck noob thats awesome
TeamEdward279 5 months ago
if u didnt know the sawed off has a light on it now so you can see if someone has it. it will make less people rage...but it doesnt hurt the gun at all...
WIN WIN SITUATION
WeMadCuzTheyBad 5 months ago
I can totally understand a really powerfull weapon with a long reload, but when that weapon doesn't really need any skill to use and all you need to do is walk up to someone and pull the trigger that's when i have a problem with it. I know you can say you need skill to get up close to someone of avoiding people when you reload but it's as easy as hiding around a corner then running away. That''s how i feel about the sawed off but I love the retro lancer <3
Zombehz4lyfe 5 months ago
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and this is what you get when you put in the no noob left behind policy you get stupid fucks like this who think there good because they use noob load outs like this in which i quote the same weapon that were put in to help noobs because they couldnt keep up with the players who actually know how to play which almost ruins most games online multiplayer mode completely
pacngears 5 months ago
Seriously 3.0 will require you to use the sawed-off shotgun.
B1kMagik 5 months ago
Can you play the game without the Gnasher or the sawed off. Im just wondering cos in every game ive seen people just shot-gun players to hell! everyone has the same kills. I want to get the third but it looks boring, if the only way to get kills shot-guning people.
adsasfd 6 months ago
the sawed off shotgun is a noob gun. why? because in one of the interview videos of the epic crew (i'm talking about the dedicated execution video) i believe thats the video. cliff or fergurson. (excuse my fail spelling) state that the gun is for people who are beginners and then after they can move on to be better with the gnasher. i'm pretty sure it's the dedicated execution video though. thumbs up so people can see and stop fucking complaining
wayrandomtv 6 months ago
@wayrandomtv It was made for beginners and anyone who uses it, at least in my opinion are garbage.
pacngears 6 months ago
I dont think the sawed off shotgun is a noob gun because its got a very short range and take a long time to reload so if u miss your first shot and could get easily killed. The gun takes skill to use against a gnaser
bzockon 6 months ago
People who complain about a stick shift transmission cars are people who don't know how to drive one... Same with these weapons, people who complain about SO & RL are people who cant get amazing kills with them.
skmax95 6 months ago
I think honestly the Retro lancer is perfectly balanced in the beta, the weapon was during the Pendulum wars before the longer range Saw-Lancer, and the recoil and the spread of the bullets is also perfect considering it is harder to hit people running away or camping on the other side of the map, the dmg is so high because its a close range weapon, and if u have a weak close range weapon, most likely more often than not, ur gonna die by a shotty, Whoever think the Retro is OP can't use it.
loudmouth138 6 months ago
Anyone who thinks the Sawed-Off sucks, a noob weapon, or "cheap" can talk once they get the massive cock out of their mouth. You have to be up-close-and-personal with it, which makes it balanced. Also the reload time being really long makes it fair. Stop being babies and learn how to use the weapon
BeyondCemetaryGates 7 months ago
@BeyondCemetaryGates maybe if the game wasn't so heavily centered towards close combat situations almost 90% of the time sure, but since it is not, the sawed off is weapon to cater to noobs that can be used with no effort.
Closen0ugh 6 months ago
you cant do Great with it, but its easy to get a 1.0 or higher.. get that easy 1 shot kill, and either get killed after that, or run away and reload to get another easy kill...
INxURxHEAD 7 months ago
y can't ppl play games becuz there just fun, i play gears of war because its just fun as hell, i can't find another game where i have as much fun, and headshots are so rewarding in this game,especially with a torque bow, a headshot with a torque bow is the most rewarding thing ever haha, and i have to say i think the weapons are balanced, i mean if ur a good enough player u'll find a way to kill someone who's wielding the sawed-off
23Birdman13 7 months ago
It actually wrecks the game in my opinion. EPIC would have done better to have the flamethrower as the option to replace the Gnasher while putting the Sawn Off in as a pickup weapon. The Retro Lancer needs fixing too.
assortedcorpses 7 months ago
@assortedcorpses They should have left the starting wepons the same as gears 2 then had the rest as pick up
HaloSwordKing 7 months ago
it makes it rediculously hard to kill anyone because they use cover to get up close range with the gnasher. They need to make a game type that removes the shotgun, as well as a game mode that removes the assault rifles, like a shotgun slayer or assault rifle slayer
crazmnke 8 months ago
People say retro is overpowered because they run up to them out in the open mindlessly. If everybody stayed at a long range I bet people would cry about the hammerburst too. No weapon you can start off with is overpowered or a "noob weapon" it's always been like that for gears of war games. People cried about people using the lancer in gears one also. It's because they just like to jump around with a shotgun the whole time (I do this too, but I also *think* about what gun is best to use each tim
IcameIsawIpwned 8 months ago
@IcameIsawIpwned No you can class wepons as "Noob wepons" because it takes less skill to kill someone with a sawed off than a gnasher and chainsaw is a noob way to get a kill too
HaloSwordKing 7 months ago
@HaloSwordKing If you let them get close enough to chainsaw you, you deserve it, if you see them running up to you and then get blasted by a sawed off, you deserve it, if you run out into the open when somebody's using a retro lancer, you deserve it, it's easy to kill some noob using a retro, sawed off, whatever, if they're a noob then they're easy to kill. If you get killed by a noob using something you call a "noob weapon" you made a mistake no matter what way you look at it.
IcameIsawIpwned 7 months ago
@IcameIsawIpwned The game has a certain balance it is true. And there is no point complaining about weapons being 'noobish'. But that doesn't change the fact that the balance of the game is drastically thrown off by the introduction of these extra weapons. Too many cooks spoil the broth and whatnot.
assortedcorpses 7 months ago
@IcameIsawIpwned yeah but its still a noob wepon because its easier to use
HaloSwordKing 7 months ago
haha i dont care if i get called a noob and have no skill...i won the match...i ended the beta with a 3.5 k/d and 1102 wins and 89 losses...guess i have no skill
Maxamisleonidas 9 months ago
@AlwaysImBored I don't think the Retro Lancer is noobish at all. Ok, it's a really powerful weapon. But the Hammerburst is too powerful at long range and the Lancer is too accurate at long range. The Retro lancer is just not accurate at all and you have to play it correctly if you want to kill with that weapon. Otherwise, I hate people who plays Retro Lancer ( or Hammerburst/Lancer ) everytime, also in Melee. Epic put Shotgun in that game, use it in melee...
Ryxify 9 months ago
Retro and DBS are for noobs it's as simple as that OP pieces of shit and i'm sick of them being spammed EVERY game i play they better patch that shit i mean i've loved gears of war up till now even number 2 with it's shitty connection issues.
Aaroniish 9 months ago
AS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE ONCE SAID
"sawed off, for noobs"
robsterbot2006 9 months ago
THE SAWED OFF IS FOR FUCKING NOOBS, i am a good shotgunner, i am a skilled gnasher user but IT IS PISS EASY TO GET KILLS WITH SAWED OFF. u sprint up to enemy, press ONE button, get a cheap kill and run away WERE IS THE SKILL!
robsterbot2006 9 months ago
@robsterbot2006 Yeah and when you just failed you're dead because of the too long reloading.
At that range Gnasher OS too, so what's the problem ?
Ryxify 9 months ago
1. The whole point of a shot gun is it to be used close range so if you can one shot people with any shot gun its OP.
2. The retro lance is OP because you almost never fight super long range and it can kill some one in half a second from mid to short range, while the normal lancer takes like 2 seconds to kill someone.
THUMBS UP SO PEOPLE CAN SEE.
MEBFLAME 9 months ago
retro lancer is fucking annoying
RetardTE 9 months ago
@RetardTE Only if you're dumb enough to get close enough.
mrNoFoe 3 months ago
@mrNoFoe Yea, so it slows down the whole game. I loved gears for fast paced gnasher shotgunning. not it's slow paced retro and sawed off fags all day long
RetardTE 3 months ago
naw they need to tone it down and fix the reload time on it
ghosttaker 9 months ago
Nice gameplay and commentary. And it's great you let people finish enemies they downed, I hate douchebags that try to steal your kills. I wish there was more players like you.
MartinRusin 9 months ago
@pingo57 i mean i agree 100 % i saw better shit in the reach beta.I personally was not going to play the beta after all of the bullshit until i played cap the leader now that is worth playing.Now epic they are thieves and that IS THE FINAL PRODUCT!!!!If you know epic games they are not going to change shit.Everything is and will be overpowered idc if its a beta or not i mean ill play CTL THATS IT!!!TDM shit is just stupid and a personal bad idea.
supermaggot777 9 months ago
It is extremely easy to get kills with and takes very little skill to use, and that is why it'll be considered a noob weapon for the rest of the beta period.. Although I do agree with you, it is fairly balanced considering the range, ammo, and reload time..
tornaodes33 9 months ago
They were designed for casual crowds.There is no learning curve.
It is and will stay newbie weapons.
N0n0ru 9 months ago
I played this beta, it is not balanced at all not only did epic lie about the servers they also lied about the charecters now i do think that the sawd of is too over powered and so is the retro lancer and so is the hammerburst with actives and please i do not want to hear the hammerburst takes "skill to use" that was the case in GoW 1 when it was an actual burst of bullets this game is honestly quite garbage i do not want to hear "It's just the beta" because i mean shit look at the reach beta.
supermaggot777 10 months ago
@supermaggot777 jaja you gonna pissed off, but actually is a beta, its a test game, not the final version, so i think you must post your opinion in the geras of war site.
the real bad thing is that those EPIC THIEVES get paid for a damn beta, for a stupid test game.
fuck merchandise man!
pingo57 9 months ago
Hammerburst and gnasher FTW
ChrisFlo331 10 months ago
Lonerstoner is in a lot of your videos...He's good
windsweptspy 10 months ago
The sawed-off is a noob weapon don't have to aim or anything just fire close range no skill needed, but it's good for the average player because they won't be skilled enough for the Nasher
windsweptspy 10 months ago
swaged off takes noo skill and its anoying how they run when they miss or they just double melee : ( noooob
althenery 10 months ago
Retro and Sawed off are garbage and only garbage kids use it, I play MLG and GB for gears so I wont have to worry about it when the actual games come out, but both guns are trash and people shouldnt have to use it period.
DmAcPwNs213 10 months ago 2
@DmAcPwNs213 nailed it 100%
NZxASSASSIN 10 months ago
90 matches for gold lancer....
bongoboyj 10 months ago
@bongoboyj
gold retro lancer...my choice of guns is flame hammer burst and gnasher sawed off is alright just annoying when you get triplle teamed or when u get raped
taburkulosusman 10 months ago
who else is thrown off by them making x to pick up a person, and y for curb stomp. whatev.
bongoboyj 10 months ago
TIP : CLICKING Left Stick in while aiming at someone tags them and gives you points!
djmousey06 10 months ago
@djmousey06 oh thats how i will try next time.
bongoboyj 10 months ago
mainly due to shotgunning n00bs stealing my kills... i had twice as many assists untill i started using a shotgun more. now i have like 2k kills :D
djmousey06 10 months ago
i wish i bought bulletstorm now :(
rugaylol 10 months ago
sawed off i think is kinda cheap, but the reload is perfect
electricity95 10 months ago
To be fair you guys are playing a beta, your all noobs!
madass21 10 months ago
Just a small tip for you. You may want to use the female character for your COG instead of Cole because she is skinnier and harder to hit. Also for the Locusts use the one on the far right of the top row. Its called Savage Theron I think.
Sylvacre 10 months ago
I dont think the double barrel is over powered, because it's completely fair to be that strong. It takes SO long to reload and range is low and you don't get many shots.
MonkeyMojo54 10 months ago
n00b
LonerStoner 10 months ago
have you guys found hacks for gears 3 yet???
hackjacktm 10 months ago
the digger gun is fucking nooby!!
SuperWrestler130 10 months ago
I want it but, too much like GOW 2 which sucked.
iPlay420 10 months ago
If you play a public match does that count to the gold lancer ?
TheGamersGuides 10 months ago
i have played with u online and u were using the sawn off and u were really pissing me off
PooOnAstick60 10 months ago
Your commentating is getting better. Nice vid bro.
HAGstudios 10 months ago
Sawed off is jost like noob tube in cod
GeForce8800ultraPC 10 months ago
retro lancer is OP as fuck, yet so is the hammerburst and so is the active reloaded lancer. and so is the gnasher. basically, when you use your guns well enough they become OP.
the retro lancer's recoil can be compensated by burst firing 3 at a time. active reloaded it takes only 3 bursts to down an enemy. thats retarded compared to hammerburst and lancer.
strijkbout12 10 months ago
Well, in every game there's always gonna be one gun that everyone uses and earns the title of the 'noob' weapon or the overpowered weapon just because it's really good
JumpHD 10 months ago
Youre the noob if you let the sawed off get close to you, aint i right....
the gun isnt noob haha
jaik0wn 10 months ago
@jaik0wn Not if the person is camping around a corner waiting for you to pass by.
Rambosmurf07 10 months ago
@Rambosmurf07 yeah you got yo point there xD
jaik0wn 10 months ago
90 MATCHES
100 KILLS
NOT
100 MATCHES
Just Clarifying..
Anthony883 10 months ago
How did you get urban on YOUR GNASHER?
Anthony883 10 months ago
A person asked Rod Ferguson on Twitter, if you can get the unlockables when the full game comes out. Even though it defeats the point* it will be hard to get.
coolguy6397 10 months ago
I agree with you, it's completely balanced, the reload and range make up for the strength. But I still get annoyed when somebody kills me with it.
DOCoSPADEo 10 months ago 15
@DOCoSPADEo haha yah same here.
AlwaysImBored 10 months ago 11
@AlwaysImBored i have 964 kills with mine :D sorry just had to say i cause anger
THExGAMINGxCHANNEL 10 months ago
i suck with the sawed off
Jay4P 10 months ago
OMFG im not first.
loganisbulletproof 10 months ago