Capitalism is what got us into this mess bitch. Socialism is not without spirit... Capitalism is about stepping over others to achieve the best profit for yourself! Negative Karma is destroying this planet because of business deals that are made in bad spirit or bad intentions. You fucking idiot I can not believe you are existing without understanding we are all connected and we each possess spirit. We have to take care of each other and the land we are using... Capitalism != environment good
i have a question. are you upset because they didn't answer your email or are you upset because they didn't have a linkto their constitution through their website? I mean to me...this is strictly objective but....they still have their constitution available it's just not on the site i don't understand what point you were trying to make
I don't mean to be mean, but have you read the Conservative party platform? I swear, there is shit in there. Also, they like to release it later than normal.
Okayyyyy dumbass, we dont need a fuckin lesson on politics, we know what you ve practically said the entire time, your explanation is VERY STUPID and you should just STFU seriously.
When the CCF merged with the CLC in 1961, it was a very different time with many different situations once again different from of 2006, 07, 08, 09, and now 2010. The constitution may be a key part of the NDP, but over time, the part has slightly changed it's party's standing. In that time, the might have still added lines from the past parties constitutions, but now have decided only to put their platform on the site because it is the most UP TO DATE information on what the party believes.
tsk. tsk. tsk. This is either dishonest or you just don't understand what democratic socialism is. As Ed Broadbent stated, democratic socialism is taking the EXCESSES of capitalism and utilizing them to create a more free society, and also, a society in which wealth is more equally distributed. However, the basis for democratic socialism is a free market, anyone who knows anything on how a mixed economy thrives and functions would understand this.
The notion that the NDP is against the economy is false. Social economies are proven to have more stable and sustainable growth. The NDP throughout the Nation, according to Revenue Canada, has the best track record for balanced budgets, which doesn't include Tommy Douglas' 17 consecutive balanced budgets. Also, "directing" money in the economy currently takes place, so why are you against it? Taxes go towards all sorts of things and is a form of "directing".
Capitalism failed us. Social Democratic baking policies which Liberal and Conservative governments adopted from the NDP were the single thing that saved the Canadian Banks from the rest of the world.
Stop freaking out. I agree with those below that say you should look at the party's policy if you want to know what it believes in. Sure, the constitution should be available too, but it's not the end of the world.
So, you were freaking out about regulation of the economy. You call this an "attack on capitalism," but now even Republicans the supposed watch-dogs of capitalism are crying out for REGULATION.
regulation is just that, measures to insure the moral dealings of business and to insure that business is actualy competative, as within the idea of capitalism. Democratic socialism is more control than it is regulation. Not quite communist control, but control none the less. Government does not know how to run the economy, all politicians know how to do is talk, let the economic policies of the government be formed by actual economists, business leasers and union leaders, not politicians
No a Party's constitution is to a Party like Canada's constitution is to our country. A Constitution governs how a party will act. A Platform is just election promises that can be changed by the Party executive. A Party's constitution can only be changed by the Party.
I finally found it! Google "NDP of Canada constitution preamble" They keep hiding it deeper. By the way, I think they have 24/7 web site monitoring. I cited a very fishey page days ago, reported it to the a group that appeared to be being used with out their knowledge via carefully worded links. I noted it to the party and the said group. It disappeared within hours. I swear, they are so on top, I look either crazy or dishonest and I am not either one.
Sorry in that link you provided there's no constitution but just an election platform. I suggest you find their constitution and clearly see what the Party really and undeniably stands for which is against capitalism and an undemocratic emphasis of unions.
The party stands for what they have written in that election platform.
Simply put, there is no up-to-date NDP constitution.
All those you can find now are from 2001 or so; this is before Jack Layton became leader. Unfortunately, under Jack's leadership they have not had the opportunity to post their official constitution, for reasons unknown.
I suggest you READ their election platform, as you have so diligently done for the constitutions of the Liberal and Conservative Parties.
You're trying to say they want to become Canada a Communist country, without using the word "communist"?
If you realize, the State in this country is already powerful, so if the government really represents the people, you shouldn't be so scared about it. You don't need so much "money" if your state is already giving you free basic needs.
You could always try and speak to an NDP candidate for their take on things.
My understanding is that NDP candidates are entitled to personal opinion on certain issues, which is why a party-wide constitution wouldn't make much sense.
It's not dishonest simply not to state something. If that were true then if I were, say dyslexic, and didn't tell you, then I'd be dishonest. Lying about something being asked or misleading is dishonest. Not showing all your cards isn't dishonest. Perhaps not as open - but hardly dishonest.
must be amazing of the types of drugs people smoke today. yes of course canadians can make a decent living off minimum wage...why get paid when you are unemployed....working rights...car insurance....rent...pension plan..welfare. naahh who needs that.
EVERY person wants to work more than 10 hours a day,,who wants actual working rights in canada?
The New Democratic Party of Canada is made up of its provincial sections. There is no national membership only provincial. If you had done your research you would have figured that out. You can find the constitution of the provincial sections on their web sites. Unlike the Liberals being a New Democrat means the same thing in British Columbia as it does in Manitoba, Nova Scotia, Ontario, you get the idea.
Please explain to me then why the National NDP have a constitution, just like the Liberal Party. Please explain why they have a national constitution but they don't put it on their national website like every national party? Are they trying to hide their socialist and anti-capitalist views?
Very interesting video.. I didn't know how hard-core they were about their socialism. Another issue I have with them is that labour unions have such a heavy influence in their party.. I would say a heavier influence than most of its members, which is not democratic at all. No one seems to care if unions have a special status within that party, but if corporations had a similar status in the conservative or liberal parties there would be a storm of sorts.
The reason why we chose people to send to parliament is to pass bills into law in respect to our Canadian fundimental Charter of Rights since it's Republican pioneer Abbe Lincoln 1865 under the Emancipation Act?
The Tory's have always destroyed this structure and burnt down their Whitehouse occupied by both Social Democrats and Republican Capitalism views because they're nor here nor there?
The NDP's economic view point represents restrained capitalism -capitalism towards the ends of social betterment. The NDP brags about such viewpoints regularly. No hiding. True democrats ought not disseminate mythology, my friend.
In fact, the party, if you look at constitutions offers the MOST Bottom-to-top governance than any other party -whereas the Tories' represent the opposite.
n. An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
yes but without working rights, you have no social structure, you would have to work 10 plus hours a day, no unemployement insurance, its now called employment insurance.
if you ever wake up one day and realize that canadians can not make a living on under 20 dollars an hour..of cours blame the unions though, how dare they want to make a decent living for their families.
Capitalism is what got us into this mess bitch. Socialism is not without spirit... Capitalism is about stepping over others to achieve the best profit for yourself! Negative Karma is destroying this planet because of business deals that are made in bad spirit or bad intentions. You fucking idiot I can not believe you are existing without understanding we are all connected and we each possess spirit. We have to take care of each other and the land we are using... Capitalism != environment good
SpaceHog2099 10 months ago
i have a question. are you upset because they didn't answer your email or are you upset because they didn't have a linkto their constitution through their website? I mean to me...this is strictly objective but....they still have their constitution available it's just not on the site i don't understand what point you were trying to make
stevescanadianfan 10 months ago
I don't mean to be mean, but have you read the Conservative party platform? I swear, there is shit in there. Also, they like to release it later than normal.
philip639 10 months ago
Thanks for the laugh =)
apprenticejedi 10 months ago
Okayyyyy dumbass, we dont need a fuckin lesson on politics, we know what you ve practically said the entire time, your explanation is VERY STUPID and you should just STFU seriously.
originaltamil 10 months ago
Whats so great about capitalism exactly? Just let it die already.
Jg51Mundi 10 months ago
When the CCF merged with the CLC in 1961, it was a very different time with many different situations once again different from of 2006, 07, 08, 09, and now 2010. The constitution may be a key part of the NDP, but over time, the part has slightly changed it's party's standing. In that time, the might have still added lines from the past parties constitutions, but now have decided only to put their platform on the site because it is the most UP TO DATE information on what the party believes.
alichatur 1 year ago
tsk. tsk. tsk. This is either dishonest or you just don't understand what democratic socialism is. As Ed Broadbent stated, democratic socialism is taking the EXCESSES of capitalism and utilizing them to create a more free society, and also, a society in which wealth is more equally distributed. However, the basis for democratic socialism is a free market, anyone who knows anything on how a mixed economy thrives and functions would understand this.
ThatAtheistBastard 1 year ago
The notion that the NDP is against the economy is false. Social economies are proven to have more stable and sustainable growth. The NDP throughout the Nation, according to Revenue Canada, has the best track record for balanced budgets, which doesn't include Tommy Douglas' 17 consecutive balanced budgets. Also, "directing" money in the economy currently takes place, so why are you against it? Taxes go towards all sorts of things and is a form of "directing".
JonathanVanBarneveld 2 years ago
Capitalism failed us. Social Democratic baking policies which Liberal and Conservative governments adopted from the NDP were the single thing that saved the Canadian Banks from the rest of the world.
JonathanVanBarneveld 2 years ago
@JonathanVanBarneveld true tommy douglase basicly his social reform policies got canada back on its feet after the depression
Gardenstatehomecomin 2 years ago
Stop freaking out. I agree with those below that say you should look at the party's policy if you want to know what it believes in. Sure, the constitution should be available too, but it's not the end of the world.
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fthrcast 3 years ago
So, you were freaking out about regulation of the economy. You call this an "attack on capitalism," but now even Republicans the supposed watch-dogs of capitalism are crying out for REGULATION.
aibsenaibsen 3 years ago
regulation is just that, measures to insure the moral dealings of business and to insure that business is actualy competative, as within the idea of capitalism. Democratic socialism is more control than it is regulation. Not quite communist control, but control none the less. Government does not know how to run the economy, all politicians know how to do is talk, let the economic policies of the government be formed by actual economists, business leasers and union leaders, not politicians
Hinrichten 3 years ago
i'm confused by this? isn't the platform the same thing?
hm.
okay.
marcydowney 3 years ago 2
No a Party's constitution is to a Party like Canada's constitution is to our country. A Constitution governs how a party will act. A Platform is just election promises that can be changed by the Party executive. A Party's constitution can only be changed by the Party.
scottyross00 3 years ago
Oh my goodness! It's all a big conspiracy!
Or not ...
MiraxTerrik1 3 years ago 2
I finally found it! Google "NDP of Canada constitution preamble" They keep hiding it deeper. By the way, I think they have 24/7 web site monitoring. I cited a very fishey page days ago, reported it to the a group that appeared to be being used with out their knowledge via carefully worded links. I noted it to the party and the said group. It disappeared within hours. I swear, they are so on top, I look either crazy or dishonest and I am not either one.
jenniferatemple 3 years ago
Yeah I wouldn't doubt it. I've sent numerous emails to the Party and have yet to receive one response back.
scottyross00 3 years ago
UPDATE
It seems the NDP was simply being patient:
ndp (dot) ca/platform
jroy375 3 years ago
Sorry in that link you provided there's no constitution but just an election platform. I suggest you find their constitution and clearly see what the Party really and undeniably stands for which is against capitalism and an undemocratic emphasis of unions.
scottyross00 3 years ago
Question, is it prohibited to post their text, after all, it is a public document, Right?
jenniferatemple 3 years ago
The party stands for what they have written in that election platform.
Simply put, there is no up-to-date NDP constitution.
All those you can find now are from 2001 or so; this is before Jack Layton became leader. Unfortunately, under Jack's leadership they have not had the opportunity to post their official constitution, for reasons unknown.
I suggest you READ their election platform, as you have so diligently done for the constitutions of the Liberal and Conservative Parties.
jroy375 3 years ago
You're trying to say they want to become Canada a Communist country, without using the word "communist"?
If you realize, the State in this country is already powerful, so if the government really represents the people, you shouldn't be so scared about it. You don't need so much "money" if your state is already giving you free basic needs.
Punkirudeboy 3 years ago
It's not dishonest.
It's simply inconvenient.
You could always try and speak to an NDP candidate for their take on things.
My understanding is that NDP candidates are entitled to personal opinion on certain issues, which is why a party-wide constitution wouldn't make much sense.
jroy375 3 years ago
And you completely missed the "Issues" tab.
Which is where the current major issues are detailed.
jroy375 3 years ago
Have you read all three constitutions? If not, you are a douche bag.
Green1865 3 years ago
The sky is falling!!!!!!
The Sky Is Falling!!!!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!
Heaven forbid we live in a country that actually gives a crap about thoes that are in need and is willing to do something about it!!!
playgirl101101 3 years ago
The problem is they are hiding it because they have betrayed their principals and SOLD OUT!
jenniferatemple 3 years ago
This guy thinks he's Sherlock Holmes.
draxxus902 3 years ago 6
It's not dishonest simply not to state something. If that were true then if I were, say dyslexic, and didn't tell you, then I'd be dishonest. Lying about something being asked or misleading is dishonest. Not showing all your cards isn't dishonest. Perhaps not as open - but hardly dishonest.
paradigm71 3 years ago 6
What's the big deal?
Not every party needs to have a wirtten constitution on their webpages. At least what they promise is put on their site and they commit to doing it.
MGman800 3 years ago 2
must be amazing of the types of drugs people smoke today. yes of course canadians can make a decent living off minimum wage...why get paid when you are unemployed....working rights...car insurance....rent...pension plan..welfare. naahh who needs that.
EVERY person wants to work more than 10 hours a day,,who wants actual working rights in canada?
mitsosfantasia 4 years ago
No political party is suggesting longer working hours, getting rid of employment insurance, etc.
scottyross00 4 years ago
The New Democratic Party of Canada is made up of its provincial sections. There is no national membership only provincial. If you had done your research you would have figured that out. You can find the constitution of the provincial sections on their web sites. Unlike the Liberals being a New Democrat means the same thing in British Columbia as it does in Manitoba, Nova Scotia, Ontario, you get the idea.
eddey3939 4 years ago 2
Please explain to me then why the National NDP have a constitution, just like the Liberal Party. Please explain why they have a national constitution but they don't put it on their national website like every national party? Are they trying to hide their socialist and anti-capitalist views?
scottyross00 4 years ago
You are just being an ass...
katrinakk7 3 years ago 3
Very interesting video.. I didn't know how hard-core they were about their socialism. Another issue I have with them is that labour unions have such a heavy influence in their party.. I would say a heavier influence than most of its members, which is not democratic at all. No one seems to care if unions have a special status within that party, but if corporations had a similar status in the conservative or liberal parties there would be a storm of sorts.
one199 4 years ago
50 billion dollar tax cuts to Corps. isn't considered a "Special Place" in the Conserv's party?
Hailthorn 3 years ago
The reason why we chose people to send to parliament is to pass bills into law in respect to our Canadian fundimental Charter of Rights since it's Republican pioneer Abbe Lincoln 1865 under the Emancipation Act?
The Tory's have always destroyed this structure and burnt down their Whitehouse occupied by both Social Democrats and Republican Capitalism views because they're nor here nor there?
905er 4 years ago
This is ridiculous.
The NDP's economic view point represents restrained capitalism -capitalism towards the ends of social betterment. The NDP brags about such viewpoints regularly. No hiding. True democrats ought not disseminate mythology, my friend.
In fact, the party, if you look at constitutions offers the MOST Bottom-to-top governance than any other party -whereas the Tories' represent the opposite.
suavebarman 4 years ago 2
cap·i·tal·ism (kāp'ĭ-tl-ĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n. An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
scottyross00 4 years ago
It's not restrained Capitalism, when the NDP's Constitution is contradictory to the very definition of Capitalism.
Also I am no democrat.
scottyross00 4 years ago
yes but without working rights, you have no social structure, you would have to work 10 plus hours a day, no unemployement insurance, its now called employment insurance.
if you ever wake up one day and realize that canadians can not make a living on under 20 dollars an hour..of cours blame the unions though, how dare they want to make a decent living for their families.
mitsosfantasia 4 years ago
Who is suggesting to get rid of workers rights?
scottyross00 4 years ago
Err, the Tories?
053bss 3 years ago
Yeah cause while most of us have to get by on less then 20.00 they need it.
johnathansilveira 3 years ago