Neo-Salafi Movement: Tawheed al-Hakimiyyah and The "Khawarij"

[Rachizzz]

LEgendary sheikh bin baaz ?

Whats so great about him when he passed a fatwa letting the americans in to al jazeer al arab wich muhammad (saws) forbid ?

[92kasim]

If you are defending the CATEGORIZATION of Tawheed Al Haakimiyyah, How can you mention Shaykh Al Albaanee when he said what he said in the following audio /watch?v=1FUDeHmgvYs with regards to Tawheed Al Haakimiyyah.

[TheMuslim0]

@92kasim

The Salaf didnt have 3 categories of Tawhid. Would you call them innovators?

[92kasim]

@TheMuslim0 Laa. Would you have asked Shaykh Al Albaanee that? Also Tawheed Al Haakimiyyah goes against the categories the `Ulamaa have made. btw also Shaykh Al Fawzaan (if im not mistaken) as denounced it aswell. We follow dont follow our desires rather we take upon what the `Ulamaa teach us. HayyaakAllaah akhee.

[92kasim]

@TheMuslim0 Im clueless to which of the `Ulamaa formally declared Tawheed as 4 categories. Making Tabdee` is not for me (a layman) so I wont speak on it.

BaarakAllaahu feek.

[92kasim]

@92kasim As Salaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah.

Ma`as Salaamah.

[abdullahalmahmood]

are they debating about tawhiid al haakimiyyah?

[call2allah]

jazakallah for that speech

[UmmNuh]

Last point he makes is very ironic...that some make a million excuses for the oppressive tyrant rulers and not 1 excuse for their brothers or sisters that disagree with their outlook....SubhanAllah...May Allah guide all of us.

[kaydoy15]

Salaamu 'alyekum, Akhi cool lecture

where did u get Picture from pLz tell me.lol.

[abudujana13]

JAZAKALLAH KHAIRAN

[IslamResponses]

Great, I want every one to listen to the end of this video .

when an ordinary muslim or shiek makes a mistake or slips on he attaches himself to the enemies and they do not consider him salafi , but at the same time if a ruler makes mistakes they would justify his mistakes and they would say "do not talk about the ruler this is backbiting & etc

so where is the balance of justice in that?

Brother, I appreciate your efforts ,may Allah (swt) save you for this Ummah.

favorite

[JihadOfTheSoul]

@IslamResponses

brother I went to a lecture on tuesday and this question was asked to the shaykh, he replied that lets say you have a chocolate bar and you young son steals it and eats it, you may choose to smack him on thw wrist as you want to instill manners in him, now say it was your mother who ate it, what will you do?

By Allaah that made it clear to everyone in the room,

we do not treat the rulers in the same manner as the ordinary people ,

[JihadOfTheSoul]

But I still have to clear some conceptions I have about everything, wAllahu 3;am, may Allah guide su and keep us guided

[IslamResponses]

The massenger of Allah peace and blessing be upon him said:

"What kind of jihad is better?" He replied, "A word of truth in front of an oppressive ruler!"

so they do not want the shieks even to advice those tyrant rulers, I know them brother because I had a discussion with 2 of them before and both of them told me we should make duaa only for rulers and criticizing them is backbiting!! subhan Allah

cont

[IslamResponses]

JihadOfTheSoul ;

This is a quick reply, I do not have time to debate you.

my point is not treating rulers in the same manner as us.

my point is: these people who call themselves salafis (I do not believe by the way they follow the way of salafs)are allowing to themselves to speak ill about the du'as only .

cont

[JihadOfTheSoul]

@IslamResponses

I didnt want a debate brother, and i read your initial post and thught to share the analogy with you,

no emnity between us akhi

[IslamResponses]

When shiek ( Wajdy Goneem) speaks the truth about the ruler of Egypt, they attack him and say he is creating Fitna etc!!

this is hypocrisy brother .I hope you get my point, Salaam

[muslim92]

Barak'Allahu Feek akhi.