I definitely think this is earlier than NoTW. The guitars are heavier, the drums are basic, and I think the singing style isn't dissimilar to Jesus. And the fact that it's more than a little bit Led Zeppish. You can already see where March of the Black Queen was born in the back of Freddie's mind.
@FreddieMercury1994 Because he quit smoking and drinking and looked after himself better as he was ill, in fact this is why his voice sounded better in Mike Morans words like a choir boy
@weinberglee Well, In Innuendo and The Miracle (but A.K.O.M. too) is not the Freddie's voice surprised me, it was great as ever, but the hig notes he hitted in the albums. Same thing in A.N.A.T.O. but with low notes
This is killer!!! I've always preferred Queen's earliest stuff..this is the first time even knowing about these unreleased songs. Only one listen told me it's pre-Queen i'll wager.
The greatest gift they could offer us for this year birthday... to released all of these songs... it's great to remastered all albums but think of all these great songs still in a cupboard... Please RG and BM plead JD and come back with a new album of unreleased.... (if you don't do it for you... do it for me and my friends Queen fans)
This was recorded during the News of the World sessions. Roger's drumkit and sound are the dead giveaway. Plus he's using timbales which were brought in during these sessions. They were acquired prior to recording and they were first heard on News of the World. Go to any Queen fansite and the topic has been covered and agreed by the most hardcore fan that this is from the summer of 77. People think he sounds young here. He wasn't touring at this point so his voice is well rested.
nitrodrum-- not sure if I agree with you here. This sounds nothing like Queen's sound post-1973. I'm not sure that after becoming an incredibly successful and world-renowned rockband (who after their debut only ever recorded and released their own written material) would suddenly pull this one out (an obvious Smile extra). Just doesn' t make sense. The songwriting is too immature for Queen in their prime. The timbales are probably a red herring.
Haha, it's been so long since that comment: This song was actually written during the NOTW sessions of 1977! This copy is running too fast (making it sound like early 70s Freddie), and Roger is using timbale drums (he only started using those after 1976)!
I think this is from '77. I've copied the clear version to CD and played it on good equipment and if you listen carefully to Freddie's voice...it sounds more like middle 70s than earlier. Quit professional and a bit like "spread your wings" and "melonchaly Blues" or "it's late" ...could be recorded in the same session. Though obviously the song is an older one ...written in the early days.
And than of course the drums...sound like aLudwig kit. Roger used Ludwig from the middle 70s, I guess.
I think it's from '77, the drumming is the one reason, and without backing vocal (I remember that till the News of the World album they had backing vocals on almost every song), they MAY have recorded it AGAIN in '71 but this might be a re-take
Judging from Freddie's voice, it would be from 1971-74. And from the sound of Brian's guitar, 71-74. But the drumming is more of like 77. Not to mention the writing of the song itself, and the structure of it points to the early 70s.
@sherhrtatk hey no offense but please dont teach the greatest band ever to play music. If you can do better than them than do it instead of just talking big.
i'm not sure whether it's '71 or '77. On one hand Freddie sounds very young. On the other however, notice no backing vocals; that's something Queen didn't do till '77. IDK we'd have to ask Brian or Roger...
i dont know. I just wanted to hear this version of silver salmon so then I look down and there I see gregsynth commenting on it. Hahah. We also agree on the same stuff usually
Well Mr. Fuller states that this song was written by Mr Tim Staffel former vocal of Smile the previos band of Roger and Brian, before Freddie break into the musical scene in 1971. This is the ost relevant data.... I would say 1971.. but there are other features in this song... e.g. judging the Freddie Vocal performance, and also the heavy string sound guitar it's possible this song was recorded in 1971.
It must be around '77, '78 because Roger Taylor never used timbales with his drums before '77. Timbales are toms used in latin music. Roger used to place them between his floor toms... from '78.
I think it must be 1971, it is still in the style of their early days. The rock and roll on NOTW is way more melodic, apart from the 1973-written "Sheer Heart Attack". Also the way the instruments sound, especially Brian and Roger makes me think of Queen I.
This is definetly '71. If you can listen you can hear Freddie's higher tone voice that you can hear mostly on queen I and a little bit on Queen II. This was probably recorded around the same time as the night comes down
This could be '77 because the vocals are almost similare to the ones in Spread Your Wings, slightly diiferent though. But I don't think Queen recorded Tim Staffell-songs in '77, but they did in the early days, like '73. So Queen or Queen II is most logical, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was recorded in '77. Anyway, good song. I love the vocal and the drums!
Queen tiene muchas canciónes que casi nadie a tenido el gusto aún de poder escuchar. Esta es otra que jamas habia escuchado, y como siempre y como todas las demas, son geníales!!!
You can see why it wasn't released though can't you. Its absolute shit! Goes nowhere, does nothing, not catchy, boring guitar riff, Good job Queen had such quality control on what they released.
1977? I don't think so. Freddie's voice changed so much with the years and this early demo is surely from the first sessions of Queen or maybe Queen II. Nothing after that.
It's possible that Silver Salmon was just a working title/lyric..in the same way that Scrambled Eggs was for Paul Mccartney before he decided on the song to be called Yesterday.
Silver Salmon is a very obscure song subject..even for Freddie..though on Innuendo he did write a song for his cat Delilah.
Acho muito foda essa fase do Queen. Músicas pesadas, densas, progressivas. Nada a ver com aquelas bobagens dos anos 80. "All we hear is radio ga ga" WTF???
É uma questão de gosto também gosto do Queen dos anos 80, mas não tem nem comparação com o que eles fizeram nos anos 70. Acho que se o Freddie não tivesse morrido eles poderiam ter resgatado essa coisa nos anos 90, como o álbum Innuendo dá uma dica.
É que depois que você vê o Queen num show do início dos anos 70, com o Freddie tocando piano em "Death On Two Legs" ou a banda tocando "Ogre Battle", e depois vê a banda tocando "I Want To Break Free", só pode pensar "bobagem". :P
My god. I just got word of David Fuller's video collection. Amazing. I love hearing all these unreleased QUEEN gems. This had to be '73 or '74. No way it was '77.
hmm, i think the band was first called Ibex but then Freddie convinced them to change their name to Wreckage.... or it might be the other way around, i'm not exactly sure...
Yes, earlier he could reach higher notes, this is true, and I agree with you on it. My point was that he actually "chose" his own '80 voice, starting smoking to make it more husky a-la Franklin or R. Stuart. In fact he had not difficulties to quit the vice once he made up his mind to stop smoking. (He used to smoke the lighest cigarettes available at that time). Concluding, he would have disagreed with us!
Freddie never had surgery! Brian May himself in a Queen documentary said that in the early days of queen Freddie kind of sounded like a sheep. His voice was very different back then because, 1. He was young and 2. He never smoked. Freddie started smoking around the 80s because he liked how it made his voice sound. Plus in the 80s his voice was a bit mistreated because of the tons of concerts he had given.
I love Freddies love no matter what, high or low, soft or rough. Queen FTW! <3
I've been a fan for ages and don't know how you do to find these gems.This is definitely early 70's stuff (the chorus, riffs, Mercury's voice) I'm a Queen II fan and Queen I up to A Day at the races + Innuendo in general
This song sounds like it was recorded during the News of the World sessions (1977). Queen + Paul Rodgers should re-record this. Although, I really like Freddie's vocal here.
I don't think so. Cause he had throat surgery, Freddie's voice got rougher(more gruff). This happened in '75. His voice stills sounds a bit feminine here, so it must be before '75
Yeah. Notice how his voice was kinda feminine in the early days, then started getting gruffer on some of AN@TO. More so on AD@TR, NOTW, and Jazz. He had nodules from his throat removed
Yeah. Klaus Meine from the Scorpions had throat surgery in '81 and he was told by his Dr. that he would never sing again. So, he went to different throat specialists and... Well, you know the rest
no matter what you may have read, Freddie never had surgery. His voice changed in that period, yes, but that was more of a conscious change. The nodules didnt appear until around the Works tour (just listen to the limited range he apparently has during the Rio concerts). Freddie never had surgery, eventually these nodules dissappeared.
he didnt have surgery because he didnt want to take a chance on ruining his voice, but who cares we should be happy we have so many queen songs, queen # 1
@JIF882 You're an idiot. If Freddie could hit awesome notes in Queen I that he also hit in Innuendo, I'm pretty sure his vocal range never changed, but more of the actual sound of his voice. Therefore, his live range should never change, no? WRONG! From over-touring, and of course, vocal nodules, his live range was nearly terrible in some occasions. I.E. Live Killers in 1979, or A Kind of Magic tour in '86. He had nods from a lack of formal training of the voice. Never properly stretched them..
Gregsynthbootlegs-- I agree that a person's vocal range can change over time, especially with vocal training. The timbre of the voice, though... that changes with age mostly. This sounds Queen/Freddie 1971ish... just listen to some of the vocal adlibs he does... Listen to the guitar sounds... not melodic like Queen post-1974.
... like a lot of rock singers do. He had nodules all of his singing career, and over-touring aggravated them towards the end of each album's tour. Live Killers was at the end of a Japan tour, and Wembley one of the LAST 3 Queen gigs EVER! No one cares if you read an inaccurate biography of Queen, get your facts straight.
MercuryMerk-- again, not sure your conclusion that some rest suddenly reverted his voice back to how it sounded six years prior. It could simply be that as one ages, the voice simply changes (obviously external influences contribute to its timbre and range). Look at the Beatles-- they completely stopped touring in 1966-- did their voices suddenly sound ten years younger after a few months off? No.
There are a few versions of this song- the first one comes from debut session, the second one comes from session to Queen II. Pity, that this song wasn't on any album...And there is also intro, which calls Feelings(don't mistake with Feelings Feelings).
Mercury sounds young in this song, I believe it's 71, but that's just me
drimmie 2 weeks ago
I definitely think this is earlier than NoTW. The guitars are heavier, the drums are basic, and I think the singing style isn't dissimilar to Jesus. And the fact that it's more than a little bit Led Zeppish. You can already see where March of the Black Queen was born in the back of Freddie's mind.
madamemercury123 2 weeks ago
it's criminal this hasn't been released!! love freddies voice on the early records!
gregfate 3 weeks ago
20 years after his death and he still surprises me with unknown songs
ferforever74 2 months ago 4
I just enjoy anyway Freddie sings!
ShadesOfWillow 2 months ago
It was composed in 1968 by Tim Staffel
heino122 2 months ago
I hate to ask a dumb question...but has anyone been able to ask Brian or Roger when this may have been recorded (or where)?
peesyweesy 3 months ago
What a voice Freddie had then, why wasn't this song put on any of their albums?
queenmethirteen 5 months ago
I vote '71-'72...
Queenrock990 6 months ago
<3 like the silver salmon....SHE FALLS.
Paulaax18 6 months ago
Why didn't they ever release this? Great rock song, throaty classic Freddie Mercury voice.
queenmethirteen 6 months ago
Shame this song wasn't released. It's already a favourite of mine,
jamzal 10 months ago
I think it was recorded during 1972 sessions.... early Freddie's voice was pure dynamite!!!
doubletalkinjive87 10 months ago 12
@doubletalkinjive87 Nope I dont think so
His voice in 1972 was cleaner and not so rough
I think this was in 1977
PicKPiT 6 months ago
@doubletalkinjive87 I think Freddie voice is always great, but in A. N.A.T.O., The Miracle and Innuendo album i think he was at his best
FreddieMercury1994 3 months ago 3
@FreddieMercury1994 totally agree!
fastica 3 months ago
@FreddieMercury1994 Because he quit smoking and drinking and looked after himself better as he was ill, in fact this is why his voice sounded better in Mike Morans words like a choir boy
weinberglee 2 months ago
@weinberglee Well, In Innuendo and The Miracle (but A.K.O.M. too) is not the Freddie's voice surprised me, it was great as ever, but the hig notes he hitted in the albums. Same thing in A.N.A.T.O. but with low notes
FreddieMercury1994 2 months ago
This is killer!!! I've always preferred Queen's earliest stuff..this is the first time even knowing about these unreleased songs. Only one listen told me it's pre-Queen i'll wager.
Thanks for posting the song
argosatori 11 months ago
The greatest gift they could offer us for this year birthday... to released all of these songs... it's great to remastered all albums but think of all these great songs still in a cupboard... Please RG and BM plead JD and come back with a new album of unreleased.... (if you don't do it for you... do it for me and my friends Queen fans)
PrincessCeuks 11 months ago
very hardcore , i vote for 1971
bairesproducciones1 1 year ago
Ooh, so delightfully hardcore. They should've released it. And Freddie's voice is just, damn...
IAmPlaysWithSquirrel 1 year ago
Freddie's voice is perfect!!!!! So young here
sara1893 1 year ago
No way that's from 1977. Sounds like earlier Freddie.
pjmuck 1 year ago
For me, the only thing that hints toward 1977 is the drums. Otherwise, I'd vote for pre first album.
BestMusicExpert 1 year ago 3
this is awesome x
gemstar1610 1 year ago
Very early voice, 71 is more likely
lordkvd 1 year ago
AWESOME!!
imaRoLLingStonzFan 1 year ago
it's awesome, where can i get this song?
thelastcatudal 1 year ago
There is some great Roger drumming on this song!
queenrocks77 1 year ago
I dont know a better performer thank Freddie
gretos1975 1 year ago
It's 71/72 and was originally for inclusion on the first album, but got left off along with 'Mad The Swine'.
DaveUK1962 1 year ago
It's a song left off of the 1st album a la Mad The Swine which was 73, so this is definitely not 77.
thefurv 1 year ago
@thefurv
This was recorded during the News of the World sessions. Roger's drumkit and sound are the dead giveaway. Plus he's using timbales which were brought in during these sessions. They were acquired prior to recording and they were first heard on News of the World. Go to any Queen fansite and the topic has been covered and agreed by the most hardcore fan that this is from the summer of 77. People think he sounds young here. He wasn't touring at this point so his voice is well rested.
nitrodrum 1 year ago
nitrodrum-- not sure if I agree with you here. This sounds nothing like Queen's sound post-1973. I'm not sure that after becoming an incredibly successful and world-renowned rockband (who after their debut only ever recorded and released their own written material) would suddenly pull this one out (an obvious Smile extra). Just doesn' t make sense. The songwriting is too immature for Queen in their prime. The timbales are probably a red herring.
MiloBalls 1 year ago
This isn't 1977! This is 1971! Freddie sounds "youthful" and that sound slowly started maturing around 1974/1975.
Gregsynth 1 year ago
@Gregsynth yes, i think he sounds a bit different in 1976 onwards. But he sounds almost entirely different around the 1984 mark.
Queenrock990 5 months ago
Haha, it's been so long since that comment: This song was actually written during the NOTW sessions of 1977! This copy is running too fast (making it sound like early 70s Freddie), and Roger is using timbale drums (he only started using those after 1976)!
Gregsynth 5 months ago
great song
Thanks Dave, you are great! :D ;)
tozsifka 1 year ago
I think it sounds like Freddie's very early voice too. As does the guitar.
InMemorandum07 1 year ago
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jella11 1 year ago
The drums sound like they are from '77
sherhrtatk 1 year ago
@sherhrtatk I agree. And Brian's guitar in the middle eight section of the song sounds almost exactly like the tone he used on "It's Late".
MonkeyBoyBud 1 year ago
@jella11 you also could shut up when you don't know, and let the other speak. you are making yourself ridiculous.
pguidez 1 year ago
I think this is from '77. I've copied the clear version to CD and played it on good equipment and if you listen carefully to Freddie's voice...it sounds more like middle 70s than earlier. Quit professional and a bit like "spread your wings" and "melonchaly Blues" or "it's late" ...could be recorded in the same session. Though obviously the song is an older one ...written in the early days.
And than of course the drums...sound like aLudwig kit. Roger used Ludwig from the middle 70s, I guess.
TheEvolutionsend 2 years ago
i love the early queen stuff and this is great...
littlenelly100 2 years ago 3
wow, Freddie's voice is very clear and silvery in those upper ranges... pearl-like..
Classicmozayfull 2 years ago 3
I think it's from '77, the drumming is the one reason, and without backing vocal (I remember that till the News of the World album they had backing vocals on almost every song), they MAY have recorded it AGAIN in '71 but this might be a re-take
MarinStoikov 2 years ago
Just when I think I've heard them all.. Along comes Mr. Fuller
Toothfreek 2 years ago 13
Judging from Freddie's voice, it would be from 1971-74. And from the sound of Brian's guitar, 71-74. But the drumming is more of like 77. Not to mention the writing of the song itself, and the structure of it points to the early 70s.
Elekari 2 years ago
great song! Brian and Roger should tweak it a bit, clean it up and release it!!
sherhrtatk 2 years ago
@sherhrtatk hey no offense but please dont teach the greatest band ever to play music. If you can do better than them than do it instead of just talking big.
zackistall01 1 year ago
i'm not sure whether it's '71 or '77. On one hand Freddie sounds very young. On the other however, notice no backing vocals; that's something Queen didn't do till '77. IDK we'd have to ask Brian or Roger...
queenrocks1994 2 years ago
to me, drum and guitar sound indicate 1971...jus sayin...is just smells more like leftover paisley and incense than like arena rock and disco...
rumblewino 2 years ago
This definitely wasn't in 1977, Freddie sounds WAY too young here. It's gotta be 1971.
Gregsynth 2 years ago
ya dude you are totally correct. I agree 100%
thebiggestqueenfan 2 years ago
How'd you find me here? Haha! I swear, about 85% of our posts are on the SAME VIDEO!
Gregsynth 2 years ago
i dont know. I just wanted to hear this version of silver salmon so then I look down and there I see gregsynth commenting on it. Hahah. We also agree on the same stuff usually
thebiggestqueenfan 2 years ago
I noticed!
Gregsynth 2 years ago
Well it was said to be a song "left over" from the earlier band
feiscool 2 years ago
Smile.
Gregsynth 2 years ago
From Ibex or Sour Milk Sea?
sherhrtatk 2 years ago
Well Mr. Fuller states that this song was written by Mr Tim Staffel former vocal of Smile the previos band of Roger and Brian, before Freddie break into the musical scene in 1971. This is the ost relevant data.... I would say 1971.. but there are other features in this song... e.g. judging the Freddie Vocal performance, and also the heavy string sound guitar it's possible this song was recorded in 1971.
jguarin2002 2 years ago
Excelente! Suena a Queen de sus primeras (benditas) épocas.
HernandoMR 2 years ago
DAVE! Again!!! ...surprise me!!! Amazing track!!!!!
Scassabuzz 2 years ago
Is it a Smile song that hasn't been recorded?
HorseMan50 2 years ago
its definately 1977, theres a demo with Fellings, Feelings and he improvs with lyrics from Silver Salmon and vice versa
marvinp01 2 years ago
I love older Queen... this sone is awesome. Thanks again for sharing. You rock, Dave!
freddieandme 2 years ago
It must be around '77, '78 because Roger Taylor never used timbales with his drums before '77. Timbales are toms used in latin music. Roger used to place them between his floor toms... from '78.
uccelloo 2 years ago
I think it must be 1971, it is still in the style of their early days. The rock and roll on NOTW is way more melodic, apart from the 1973-written "Sheer Heart Attack". Also the way the instruments sound, especially Brian and Roger makes me think of Queen I.
MyMusic0201 2 years ago
it's from 1971
Pi5mak 2 years ago
This has to be 71. It sounds to me like one of those late 60s/early 70s psychedelic songs I can picture people getting high to.
ChrisFrenchComedy 2 years ago
This is definetly '71. If you can listen you can hear Freddie's higher tone voice that you can hear mostly on queen I and a little bit on Queen II. This was probably recorded around the same time as the night comes down
thebiggestqueenfan 2 years ago
This could be '77 because the vocals are almost similare to the ones in Spread Your Wings, slightly diiferent though. But I don't think Queen recorded Tim Staffell-songs in '77, but they did in the early days, like '73. So Queen or Queen II is most logical, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was recorded in '77. Anyway, good song. I love the vocal and the drums!
ToyKotoMadman 2 years ago
Queen tiene muchas canciónes que casi nadie a tenido el gusto aún de poder escuchar. Esta es otra que jamas habia escuchado, y como siempre y como todas las demas, son geníales!!!
espectaculardavidrcq 2 years ago
Ohh... Photo at 2:10 is so cute :) I love Freddie's image in early 1970's
SiniaDiva 2 years ago
LOVE IT!!!!
NuYawkChittae 2 years ago
You can see why it wasn't released though can't you. Its absolute shit! Goes nowhere, does nothing, not catchy, boring guitar riff, Good job Queen had such quality control on what they released.
BarryDeadrock 2 years ago
I doubt this was '77. Sounds Queen/Queen II sessions, especially the drum sound
Robotdrummerzzk 2 years ago
1971 Demo
karmann987 2 years ago
1977? I don't think so. Freddie's voice changed so much with the years and this early demo is surely from the first sessions of Queen or maybe Queen II. Nothing after that.
annyecarol 2 years ago
Great...wish they had released this. Love the sound.
MAJENMOTHER 2 years ago
Very good song...
watch my band
is called silver salmon in tribute to this song
Lok for this on you tube:
Silver salmon ensayo
queenroocks 2 years ago
pure 70s rock
song
LiveKillers89 2 years ago 25
freddie look like jim morrison in 2:16
LiveKillers89 2 years ago 5
very random lyrics, but great song and melody :p I think they should've evolved this song and released it totally
TheMiracle91 2 years ago 18
It's possible that Silver Salmon was just a working title/lyric..in the same way that Scrambled Eggs was for Paul Mccartney before he decided on the song to be called Yesterday.
Silver Salmon is a very obscure song subject..even for Freddie..though on Innuendo he did write a song for his cat Delilah.
theyorkshirewhites 2 years ago 4
What's the basis for the statement that the song's written by Tim Staffell?
He wasn't even in the band Queen and the band Smile had disbanded long before 1977.
Burqua12 2 years ago 2
Even at a lamp of Lord
jobreton 2 years ago
WATAFUCK ... RARE RARE!!
XxDarkXScorpionxX 2 years ago 3
I may be wrong but to me it sounds like he's saying, "Even at a/ the lamp of God".
dondongo86 2 years ago
lap of god?
psynema 2 years ago
It´s a rare Song of Queen.
DeeScott1968 2 years ago 3
Its actually from Smile
feiscool 2 years ago 2
Even at a — what???
jasonfoxrox 2 years ago
kick ass song, but you shouldntve cut off the last half
slimv29 2 years ago 2
uma relíquia. espero que a EMI tome vergonha na cara e lance essas músicas num cd com som decente.
renanzitozitozito 2 years ago
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Acho muito foda essa fase do Queen. Músicas pesadas, densas, progressivas. Nada a ver com aquelas bobagens dos anos 80. "All we hear is radio ga ga" WTF???
bessadale 2 years ago
cara o Queen eh uma banda versatil
as musicas q eles fazem nunca podem ser chamadas dessa forma
anos 80 eles se tornaram mais rock arena sendo a principal banda do estilo
klibermariozinhu123 2 years ago
É uma questão de gosto também gosto do Queen dos anos 80, mas não tem nem comparação com o que eles fizeram nos anos 70. Acho que se o Freddie não tivesse morrido eles poderiam ter resgatado essa coisa nos anos 90, como o álbum Innuendo dá uma dica.
bessadale 2 years ago
entendo^^
apenas fiquei um pouco ofendido com "bobagem" q vc tinha dito
de resto ta ok =D
abs ;D
klibermariozinhu123 2 years ago
É que depois que você vê o Queen num show do início dos anos 70, com o Freddie tocando piano em "Death On Two Legs" ou a banda tocando "Ogre Battle", e depois vê a banda tocando "I Want To Break Free", só pode pensar "bobagem". :P
bessadale 2 years ago
The drums looks like 76-77 style but the music resembles Queen's I style
Spectroman10 2 years ago
This song was recorded in 1971.
bessadale 2 years ago
This song would of fit in very well with Queen's first album. Is there ANY way to get it on iTunes???
ashlynschade 2 years ago 3
Record it with audacity and make a mp3 file. :)
lemonzitrone 2 years ago
Such an awesome Queen song that never seen the light.
ratzer38 2 years ago
I enjoyed it very much!
Jackerlmiez 2 years ago
My god. I just got word of David Fuller's video collection. Amazing. I love hearing all these unreleased QUEEN gems. This had to be '73 or '74. No way it was '77.
liveperl 2 years ago
This is even earlier Queen, '71.
bessadale 2 years ago
I think so, too. The way they recorded Freddie's voice sounds very much like "Queen I". It sounds a bit brighter than on the later works.
MarkoKassenaar 2 years ago 3
More like 73ish not 77
updougdown 2 years ago 3
Freddie had a magic voice... even when it cracks it sounds amazing. The first picture looks like they were taken out of bed. Lol !
edmatper 3 years ago
Haha, you're right.
brightonrock74 3 years ago
Isn't this earlier than 77? I would guess like 72-73
Lawen78 3 years ago 3
Very cool song, Who wrote it, I think BHM.
Sounds very Led Zep
poochickenone 3 years ago
Hmm, probably it was Freddie who wrote this one. Freddie wrote some darn heavy songs, and this was a song from his previous band Wreckage.
bessadale 3 years ago 3
Which band came 1st, Ibex or Wreckage? Did both of these bands function at the same time?
shagfish 3 years ago
hmm, i think the band was first called Ibex but then Freddie convinced them to change their name to Wreckage.... or it might be the other way around, i'm not exactly sure...
ABBALIEVE 3 years ago
Thank You
shagfish 3 years ago
No, you're right.
Crisstti 3 years ago
about the smoking..he said: I like my voice when is husky, I like it husky.
Infact he admired Franklin mainly for her voice technique
NinaV76 3 years ago 2
Tho I don't think he smoke to mainly make it husky but using it as an excuse to defend his smoking
Lawen78 3 years ago
Oh, it certainly seems that way to me as well. Though he must not have hated the effect on his voice.
Crisstti 3 years ago
i liked his voice much better before the smoking. he could hit all these crazy notes!!!!!!
but he was ok afterwards i guess(:
nehnehmjfan22 3 years ago 2
Yes, earlier he could reach higher notes, this is true, and I agree with you on it. My point was that he actually "chose" his own '80 voice, starting smoking to make it more husky a-la Franklin or R. Stuart. In fact he had not difficulties to quit the vice once he made up his mind to stop smoking. (He used to smoke the lighest cigarettes available at that time). Concluding, he would have disagreed with us!
NinaV76 3 years ago 2
Freddie's voice here was great!!!
FRocker93 3 years ago 3
I love it!!!
cioppominello 3 years ago 2
I think he's singing "even at a level".
wvoutlaw2002 3 years ago
Freddie never had surgery! Brian May himself in a Queen documentary said that in the early days of queen Freddie kind of sounded like a sheep. His voice was very different back then because, 1. He was young and 2. He never smoked. Freddie started smoking around the 80s because he liked how it made his voice sound. Plus in the 80s his voice was a bit mistreated because of the tons of concerts he had given.
I love Freddies love no matter what, high or low, soft or rough. Queen FTW! <3
moodswings 3 years ago 2
From which year is this song ???
CzesioNieMen 3 years ago
in the late 80's Freddie himself said that he never had any surgery, even though it was suggested...
suren1946 3 years ago 2
it's 73's
LucaArca 3 years ago
I've been a fan for ages and don't know how you do to find these gems.This is definitely early 70's stuff (the chorus, riffs, Mercury's voice) I'm a Queen II fan and Queen I up to A Day at the races + Innuendo in general
LAAS1959 3 years ago 4
I would like to hear Tim Staffell sing this.
classicrockrockz 3 years ago
In the beggining, where you put ????
Fred sings "even in the lap of the Gods"
pgcoscarelli 3 years ago
the brige is ace! So sad they nerver released this! Killer riff, too !!!
arminjohnert 3 years ago
Hiya Dave! Great find. The drum sound is very Queen II era though.
DavyMack 3 years ago
This song it's from 72-73 not 77
TheKingDrummer87 3 years ago 4
I heard that there were two songs and one is from about '73 and the other from '77... Anyway I love that Silver Salmon :)
BasniowyDrwal 3 years ago
This tune really rocks. Even more than "I want it all"!
amegland 3 years ago
** Note: The above comment posted from an insane asylum. **
All jokes aside though this song is pretty heavy.
creamydistortion 3 years ago
This song sounds like it was recorded during the News of the World sessions (1977). Queen + Paul Rodgers should re-record this. Although, I really like Freddie's vocal here.
sherhrtatk 3 years ago
I don't think so. Cause he had throat surgery, Freddie's voice got rougher(more gruff). This happened in '75. His voice stills sounds a bit feminine here, so it must be before '75
JIF882 3 years ago 4
I agree, the song definitely sounds like from 71-74 period. No way this is 1977.
nuncjusz1 3 years ago 4
Freddie had throat surgery in 1975?
marvinp01 3 years ago
Yeah. Notice how his voice was kinda feminine in the early days, then started getting gruffer on some of AN@TO. More so on AD@TR, NOTW, and Jazz. He had nodules from his throat removed
JIF882 3 years ago
is there proof?
marvinp01 3 years ago
Yes. I've read some bios on Queen
JIF882 3 years ago
because normally, he would just rest and not do surgeries
marvinp01 3 years ago
Yeah. Klaus Meine from the Scorpions had throat surgery in '81 and he was told by his Dr. that he would never sing again. So, he went to different throat specialists and... Well, you know the rest
JIF882 3 years ago
no matter what you may have read, Freddie never had surgery. His voice changed in that period, yes, but that was more of a conscious change. The nodules didnt appear until around the Works tour (just listen to the limited range he apparently has during the Rio concerts). Freddie never had surgery, eventually these nodules dissappeared.
robman2k9 3 years ago
Check UR info. My source was an official Queen bio
JIF882 3 years ago
considering the only "official" publication is the one on Queen's website
robman2k9 3 years ago
Okay
JIF882 3 years ago
And even that one has mistakes sometimes. In the Queen Rocks info, it says the Tie Your Mother Down was written by Freddie.
hoklik2 3 years ago
he didnt have surgery because he didnt want to take a chance on ruining his voice, but who cares we should be happy we have so many queen songs, queen # 1
kingb212212 3 years ago
Yeah! What do you think of new Queen+Paul Rogers CD?
JIF882 3 years ago
@JIF882 You're an idiot. If Freddie could hit awesome notes in Queen I that he also hit in Innuendo, I'm pretty sure his vocal range never changed, but more of the actual sound of his voice. Therefore, his live range should never change, no? WRONG! From over-touring, and of course, vocal nodules, his live range was nearly terrible in some occasions. I.E. Live Killers in 1979, or A Kind of Magic tour in '86. He had nods from a lack of formal training of the voice. Never properly stretched them..
MercuryMerk 1 year ago
His range DID change though! In the earliest Queen days, he used ALOT of falsetto and his highest notes in full voice were around C5/C#5.
By the 80s/early 90s, he gained ALOT of higher range (up to F5)!
Though it's true Freddie never had surgery, I don't know where JIF82 got that from.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 year ago
Gregsynthbootlegs-- I agree that a person's vocal range can change over time, especially with vocal training. The timbre of the voice, though... that changes with age mostly. This sounds Queen/Freddie 1971ish... just listen to some of the vocal adlibs he does... Listen to the guitar sounds... not melodic like Queen post-1974.
MiloBalls 1 year ago
This is playing too fast-I got the "real" version on my channel.
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 year ago
Freddie's vocal range was fantastic on The Magic Tour! He hit so many high notes!
Gregsynthbootlegs 1 year ago
... like a lot of rock singers do. He had nodules all of his singing career, and over-touring aggravated them towards the end of each album's tour. Live Killers was at the end of a Japan tour, and Wembley one of the LAST 3 Queen gigs EVER! No one cares if you read an inaccurate biography of Queen, get your facts straight.
MercuryMerk 1 year ago
MercuryMerk-- again, not sure your conclusion that some rest suddenly reverted his voice back to how it sounded six years prior. It could simply be that as one ages, the voice simply changes (obviously external influences contribute to its timbre and range). Look at the Beatles-- they completely stopped touring in 1966-- did their voices suddenly sound ten years younger after a few months off? No.
MiloBalls 1 year ago
Super!!!!!!!!
Juhy1000 3 years ago
There are a few versions of this song- the first one comes from debut session, the second one comes from session to Queen II. Pity, that this song wasn't on any album...And there is also intro, which calls Feelings(don't mistake with Feelings Feelings).
Mer1945 3 years ago
QUEEN & SMILE
FOREVER
isildu 4 years ago 3
BELLISSIMA!!!
BESTMERCURY 4 years ago 4
im sorry, Staffell was a member of 1984 !
A Trident acetate exists from the UK with this unreleased song in 1973
The disc was made for inhouse use only. It was never made for a single release.
Silver Salmon was recorded in 1971..
queenpicturehall has confirmed this information..
younger1188 4 years ago 2
he wasnt in 1984
younger1188 4 years ago
Silver Salmon......best left in the tin...not Queen standard....they moved on from stuff like this....
mickyb8419 4 years ago
nah, would be nice if they remastered it. :P
younger1188 4 years ago 2
David R Fuller how do you get this stuff? By the way, thanks for posting all this rare stuff on :o)
preposterous3637 4 years ago
Tim Staffell was also in it, eh?
oli4burggraa 4 years ago
Staffell just wrote the song in the early 70's
younger1188 4 years ago
yea man this song is rare and kicks ass
kingb212212 4 years ago 2
1984?
nah, they'r last demos came from 1967 or 1968..
this is Queen in the early 70's ;)
younger1188 4 years ago
agreed, early 70's
kingb212212 4 years ago 2
werd u get this?
LOseIDon 4 years ago