SOHC Shelby Cobra

[jeepers2655]

what is 1 worth? there is 1 at the Columbus, oh. racers swap up for Auction Sunday.

[jeepers2655]

@jeepers2655 Just the Sohc motor.

[Race62hud]

As I understand it the 2-427's Shelby built for himself and Bil Cosby had SOHC's and automatic transmissions. I asked Carrol about it at Laguna years ago during a Aston event and all he did was smile, never awnsered me on that question. Who knows. Dyno. I own 4 of these engines still. my first one Dynoed at SJSU in the aero dept in 1981 at 701 HP on 105 gas with accs at the flywheel, Factory was labeled at 616 hp, Biggest issue, stock cam chains were gone in about 3 hours of run time.

[jaratt85]

talk about an engine that needs to be reproduced.. as long as they can keep the original power alive. thats the thing that bugs me the most about the 528 HEMI its 102 ci bigger yet its over 200hp less than a original street 426 (and Im not talking the factory lowball rating for insurance purposes)

[68bobba]

@jaratt85 the 528 crate Hemi is supposed to make 610hp.....so your saying the original street Hemi made over 800hp?.....doesn,t sound quite right mate...I think you may have that arse about

[jaratt85]

@68bobba check out 2:20 on /watch?v=eIU0tFA3bKM

[smdumod123]

@jaratt85 yes the rating was low... but not that low. i came across a digital image of a dodge dyno sheet for a street hemi in a charger and the factory had dynoed it at 433.3 at the rear wheels so i would suspect 500 give or take at the flywheel. the only hemi to produce 800 (that was bult by mopar not an engine builder) is the dohc hemi and only 1 exists

[jaratt85]

@smdumod123 why is it everyone has to argue with me about this.. seriously watch the american muscle car video I linked.. I doubt a show like that would lie about horsepower. If you cant believe that, well them Im sorry for you

[mrgears]

I didn't think it was possible to stuff a cammer in a cobra. Must be the funnest car on earth.

[sweettooth80]

pretty

[Avatarblackwolf]

This makes want to watch the movie the gumball rally.

[sixtiesforever1966]

@Avatarblackwolf Yes that is a great movie, have it in my collection.

A Chevrolet Dealer in South Amboy, New Jersey run the original Sea to Shining Sea Race, and they had a Chevy short wheel base V8 van with 100 gallon gas tank. It has printed on the side, POLISH RACING TEAM, BRIGGS CHEVROLET !.. If you know the dealer. They sold a ton of of Muscle Cars in Central New Jersey in the 60's, and early 70's

[peranaz]

Thats what a Chryler Hemi wants to be when it grows up!!! LOL

[68bobba]

@peranaz Why would a Chrysler Hemi lower its standards to be a Ford.....LOL!!!

[WR250FGNCC]

a true hemi unlike dodge

[pete1729]

This motor in this car would require that I wear an absorbent undergarment in order to ride in it.

[mrgears]

Cammer + Cobra = 1 sick ride!

[gotwofast1]

Very rare engine. Looks good !!!!

[cobraopts7]

put up some vids of you destroying tuners

[bubblejomay]

No, NHRA did not ban this motor only NASCAR and that was because of the small minded people at Ford Motor Co. in Detroit. What I mean is that the head honcho's at Ford was the cause of this engine not really being a household word. Do some research and you also will know what knuckleheads were running Ford in the sixties.

[sanatatic]

@bubblejomay Err, no it was at the behest of Chrysler, who whinged about it enough that the HEMI 426 became the household name and the rest is history

[bubblejomay]

@sanatatic Well I see you didn't do your research. Yes Chrysler whined about this motor. But the underlying factor is that what Chrysler did or didn't do wasn't what caused the demise of this engine or stop it from becoming a household name. At the time, in order for an engine to be eligible for NASCAR 500 units had to be sold to the public in a passenger car. The "brains" at FORD thought this action was not feasable. This the reason the engine did not compete at NASCAR. Check it out.

[bubblejomay]

@bubblejomay It's a little known fact. Trust me, the reason is not NASCAR but Ford. You see they would not put 500 motors in Galaxies to sell to the public because the powers that be at Ford reasoned that it would cost too much money and no one would buy the cars at the price they would charge. Little did they know.

[meanmopar426]

@bubblejomay The Ford 427 SOHC was a beast. I went with my brother to a house/garage where 4 of these engines was stored in shipping crates from Holman & Moody Charlot NC for Bruce Walters Ford in Va. my cousin purchased one NEW (still in the crate) for $5,000.00 The rest were sold soon after. But the real beast wasn't Fords Cammer. It was Chrysler's A-925 (concept code Not actual CI) DOHC Hemi due to hit the strips running in mass IF the ruling bodies allowed the 427 SOHC to compete. >

[bubblejomay]

@meanmopar426 I missed that article, but as you know DOHC engines are the norm these days. I am surprised Chrysler did not make one to compete with the Ford 4.6 DOHC engine. These engines really make some power, trust me I have one in a 2002 Lincoln Continental and this is the least powerful and it has some punch to it. There is a guy in Ontario who builds these engines and I have seen one on his website that puts out 800 hp.

[meanmopar426]

@bubblejomay small displacement DOHC engines are normal in this era however, if Ford and Chrysler were allowed to build and compete with big block torque monsters like say the 426 & 427 SOHC/ DOHC . and race those engines back in the 60's I am confident that what you would have under the bonnet of your Lincoln today would be even more impressive.

[meanmopar426]

@bubblejomay Chrysler built a prototype of the A-925 and was testing it using an electric motor to dial in the DOHC when they got news that Nascar outlawed the 427 SOHC. from competition. The A-925 was then scraped and a man in New York took it home with him. (Hot Rod Mag article) I often wonder what types of engines we would see today if ruling bodies allowed these V8 S-DOHC engines to compete in the 70's?

[jacktheripped]

@bubblejomay It was banned by NASCAR because it never came out in a production car. Enough of the Boss 429 did so it was legal, for a short time. About the same time Dodge was turning over 200 mph laps at Taladega with Hemi SuperBirds, NASCAR crapped it pants and while not banning it outright made it near impossible to run with the newly favored smallblocks.

It would be so hot to own a Boss 429 Torino Talladega :)

[bubblejomay]

@jacktheripped That's what I have been saying all the time. There was a Magazine that did an article on this SOHC engine and mentioned the fact that the fastest lap ever run at Daytona was done by a '64 Galaxie with this engine in it. I have the specs on this engine somewhere if I can find them.

[sanatatic]

@bubblejomay Bullshit, nowhere on any site does it say that it was banned due to lack of numbers. The engineers at Ford had 90 days to come up with a winning combination to win NASCAR. NASCAR "claimed" that the engine "wouldn't fit under stock hoods". This another reason I found that is cited for banning the engine. Nowhere does it say due to numbers.

[schatzisgirl1]

the 427 SOHC cammer motor is the baddest motor on the planet thats why NASCAR and NHRA outlawed the motor so there would be competition

[ipdaily6]

probably shelby himself, looks like thats the l.v.m.s in the background and i remember the shelby building was close by... but thats years ago since i was there might be mistaken....

[The1Chaz1Bitches]

Great Vid!!!

[firemun59]

one word comes to mind....WOW

[LiamMacBone]

drool

[MrDriftonin]

You know Bill cosby ordered one of these but one never release the actual numbers on it, I think it was 66 or 67, 427 cobra with dual turbo's 2 4bl, But any ways ford had 2 models of the 427 the weak one with only 425 HP and then the wedge head version been the 1st single overhead cam engine everbuilt, with a massive 6' long timing chain, producing 754 HP from the Factory.

[RealCiDhed]

@MrDriftonin It was called the super snake and had twin paxton sn60's on it.

[DragwayRipper]

The 425hp 427 is the wedge mill, while the SOHC "Cammer" is essentially an overhead cam Hemi-head 427. And yes the "Super Snake" Cobras had twin Paxton SN60 Supercharged 427 wedges. Two were built, one exists.

[cobraopts7]

@DragwayRipper the 427 cammer has 620hp stock

[chucknarok]

@cobraopts7 well it depends if it's a single 4barrel or dual quad setup. The single was 616hp/515tq @ 7k and 3.8k, and the 8V was 657hp/540tq @ 7500 and 3700.

[bubblejomay]

@MrDriftonin Please rewrite this comment, part of it is very confusing. Bill Cosby did order one but when he went on a test drive it scared him so that he took it back. Then I believe that Zack Reynolds of R J Reynolds fame bought the car and died when he crashed it.

[mrgears]

@MrDriftonin The car that Bill Cosby did half of a record album on (200mph) was 2 of 2 special super snakes made by Shelby. One Mr. Shelby kept for himself and sold recently at auction for $5.5M. These cars were NOT 427 SOHC cars. They were 427s with twin Paxton centrifugal blowers putting out 800hp. The motors were most likely side-oilers but definetly not "cammers". My apologies if you already mentioned that in an earlier post.

[Csizirajder]

V8 rulz! :) 5*

[SteveHandlebar]

Must have! Do want!!

[bpowersman5000]

Good god, I am jealous......

[agentc73]

That "friend" Jay Leno?

[maison0blanche]

No, not Jay. Same idea though!

[427XL]

Insane!!

It's a killer engine in  fullsize car,let alone a Cobra!

[Eddiemotor]

That's the ultimate Cobra, the King Cobra!